City Council Meeting

>>> GOOD EVENING.ALL RIGHT, CALL THE MEETING TO I AM GOING TO ORDER. JUST ONE REMINDER.I'M REALLY ASKING YOU THAT YOU MAKE SURE YOUR PHONES ARE TURNED OFF, OR AT LEAST, SILENCED. WE DON'T NEED ANY EXTRA INTERRUPTIONS TONIGHT. AGAIN, I ASKTHAT IF YOU KNEW YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK TONIGHT, YOU TRY TO SAY TO THE FRONTOR OUTSIDE SEATS, SO WE CAN SAVE TIME THERE, AND THE LAST THING, IF I DID NOT SAY THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, I WILL SAY IT NOW. WE REALLY DO NOT WANT ANY SIDE CONVERSATIONS GOING ON. IF YOU'RE NOT CLEAR ON SOMETHING AND YOU NEED SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN IT, IF YOU WILL JUST STEP OUTSIDE, THAT WOULD BE BETTER, BECAUSE IF YOU ARE TALKING OR HAVING A SIDE COMMENT, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND TO THE CAN'T HEARWHAT IS GOING ON UP HERE, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY ARE HERE. NOW THAT WE HAVE AGREED TO THAT, WE WILL TURN IT OVER TOCOUNCILMEMBER SHAW FOR THE INVOCATION, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEASE RISE. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. UNITY IS STRENGTH, WHEN THERE IS TEAMWORK AND COLLABORATION. WONDERFUL THINGS CAN BE ACHIEVED.BECAUSE IT IS NATIONAL POETRY MONTH, MY SEARCH LED ME TO THIS QUOTE,AND MADDIE WAS AN AMERICAN AUTHOR PUBLISHEDSEVEN BOOKS OF POETRY MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER. HE AND ESSAYS ON PEACE, SEVERAL OF WHICH APPEARED IN THE NEW YORK TIMES BEST SELLER LIST BEFORE HIS DEATH AT THE AGE OF 13. AT TIMES, THAT WE NEED TO FEND OFF THE VISION AND WORK TOGETHER,MAY WE LET THE MESSAGE OF THIS YOUNG LIFE GROUND US IN KINDNESS, CONNECTION AND COMMON PURPOSE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG AND TO THE REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> CITY CLERK, IF YOU WILL DO >> COUNCILMEMBER SHAW. ROLL CALL. >> COUNCILMEMBER JACKSON COULD >> PRESENT. >> PRESENT. >> COUNCILMEMBER EARLEY. >> CITY ATTORNEY SALZMAN. CITY >> DOESN'T. MANAGER RILEY.CITY CLERK IS PRESENT. >> TONIGHT, I GET TO DO FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME EVER, I GET TO DO A SPECIAL PRESENTATION.YOU KNOW IN GULFPORT WE HAVE WHAT IS CALLED THE SPIRIT OF GULFPORT AWARD AND TONIGHT I GET TO PRESENT IT TO , WHO SOME CALL,WILLIAM DREXLER, AND SOME CALL, BILLY D, SO BEFORE I ASK HIM TO COME APPEAR FOR THE PRESENTATION, THIS IS WHAT I LEARNED. FOR OVER 13 YEARS,BILLY -- WILLIAM,BILLY D DREXLER HAS BEEN THE HEART OF THE GULF PORT BOOMERANGS, AND IS A TIRELESS HIS LEADERSHIP HAS INSPIRED COMMUNITY CHAMPION. COUNTLESS ACTS OF SERVICE FROM FOODDRIVES TO TRAIN TOUR CHARITY FUNDRAISERS, ALL ROOTED IN HIS DEEP LOVE FOR GULFPORT. BILLY D SPIRIT, GENEROSITY AND SPIRIT TRULY EMBODY WHAT THIS AWARD STANDS FOR. WITH THIS STAR, WE CELEBRATETHIS IMMENSE VALUE TO OUR COMMUNITY, HIS IMMENSE VALUE TO OUR COMMUNITY.WITH THE SAILBOAT, WE RECOGNIZE OUR DEEP CONNECTION TO THE SEA.WITH THE RISING SUN, WE ACKNOWLEDGE OUR EVER FORWARD VISION, AND WITHTHE WINGING BIRDS, WE SALUTE THE SOARING SPIRIT THAT UPLIFTS US ALL.IT IS WITH GREAT PRIDE THAT WE PRESENT THIS AWARD TO WILLIAM DREXLER, WHO HAS DEMONSTRATED THE TRUE SPIRIT OF GULFPORT. NOW, IF YOU WILL COME ON UP HERE. [ APPLAUSE ] [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] >> YOU WILL BE THROWING OUT THE FIRST PITCH IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.IT'S GOING TO THESE PEOPLE BE A BIG PARTY. ALL WILL BE EXPECTING YOU. >> WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS PLAQUE.I HOPE THAT YOU WILL ALWAYS LOOK AT IT FONDLY. >> WE LOVE THE CITY, AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE SITTING HERE, THAT SUPPORT WHAT I DOING. A STANDING JOKE IS,IF THEY DON'T GET BEHIND WHAT BILLY IS DOING, HE WILL TRIPLE THE DUES, SO THAT IS WHY WE DO SO WELL. [ APPLAUSE ] >> IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, FOR A SECOND, TAKE A MOMENT AND OPEN UP YOUR GIFT HERE. >> OKAY. >> SOME SWAG. >> THAT IS PERFECT FOR ME. THAT IS PERFECT. THIS ISAN UMBRELLA?THIS IS FOR THE RAIN.CAN WE USE THIS AS AN OFFICIAL BALL? >> IT'S YOUR BALL. IT HAS BEEN SIGNED BY EVERYBODY. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANKS A LOT. GOD BLESS. THANK YOU.ALL RIGHT, I WILL GET ALL OF THESE PEOPLE OUT OF HERE. THEY CAN MAKE A LOT OF NOISE.THANK YOU. >> WE DO UNDERSTAND, IF THERE ARE SOME FOLKS,WHO CAME SPECIAL FOR YOU, AND IF THEY NEED TO EXIT NOW, WE UNDERSTAND. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.[ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING AND SHOWING SUPPORT.AS SOME FOLKS ARE EXITING, THIS MIGHT BE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TOGET TO AN OUTSIDE SEED, OR UP CLOSER, IF YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO TALK OR BE ADDRESSEDDURING PUBLIC COMMENT, BECAUSE WE WILL START IT IN JUST A MOMENT. OKAY, JUST A REMINDER, WITH PUBLIC COMMENT,PUBLIC COMMENT IS THREE MINUTES. YOU CAN SPEAKTO OR ADDRESS ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. IF IT IS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, THIS IS NOT WHEN YOU WOULD SPEAK. THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK LATER.A SHOW OF HANDS, WHO WOULD LIKE TO START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT? RIGHT HERE, PLEASE.YOU CAN COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. >> I AM TOTALLY NOT PREPARED.I WILL TRY TO BE FAST. I AM LONG-WINDED, MY FRIENDS WOULD TELL YOU. >> THAT'S OKAY, THE MEAN LADY OVER THERE KEEPS THE CLOCK RUNNING. >> MY NAME ISNINE MILLER. IT'S A NICKNAME FOR ANITA. I HAVE LIVED IN GULFPORT FOR TWO YEARS, BUT I AM A BRAND-NEW HOMEOWNER, CONDO OWNER, ANDI AM BY YOU.THE WHOLE FIRST FLOOR OF GULFPORT SHORES WAS FLOODED IN HELENE. I WAS GOING TO RENT FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE, BUT WHEN I WALKED INTO THIS CONDO AT AN OPEN HOUSE, I SAID, THIS IS MY NEW HOME. MY OLD LANDLORD WAS REALLY UPSET THAT HE WOULD YOU --LOSE A 20 YEAR TENANT, BUT HE HANDLED IT. I TALKED TO THE CONTRACTORTHAT IS DOING THE WORK DOWNSTAIRSIN ALL THE FLOODED UNITS, AND HE SAID, YOU WANT TO DO A BATHROOM RENOVATION?WHAT ARE YOU DOING? I TOLD HIM AND HE SAID, LESS THAN TWO SHEETS OF DRYWALL.YOU ARE NOT MOVING ANYTHING. YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING. YOU DO NOTTAKE OUT WALLS. YOU'RE JUST MAKING YOUR PLACE BETTER AND SAFER AND GETTING RID OF MOLD. YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT.I SAID, YOU'RE THE GUY DOING THIS WORK HERE.YES, CAN YOU GIVE ME A QUOTE? HE GAVE ME A QUOTE, AND THEN HE DOUBLED IT. I HAVE HIS NAME,BUT I DON'T WANT TO SAY BAD THINGS. TODAY , AT ABOUT 2:00, THE CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT CAME TO SEE ME, AND THEY SAID, DO YOU HAVE A PERMIT?I SAID, NO, I WAS TOLD I DID NOT NEED ONE.I AM GOING TO THE BUILDING INSPECTOR IN THE MORNING AND I AM GOING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT I NEED TO DO, BUT I HAVE AONE-ONE CONDO.I HAVE NO TOILET. I HAVE NO VANITY. MY CONTRACTOR HAS STOPPED WORK.AND, THEY ARE GOING TO BE SENDING OFFICIALS TO STOP WORK,BUT I WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY REQUESTFOR THEM TO PUT IN A TOILET AND A VANITY,SO THAT I CANDO WHAT I NEED TO DO,AND I WILL PAY WHATEVER FINES ARE NECESSARY.I WAS NOT TRYING TO DO ANYTHING WRONG.I WAS TOLD I WAS OKAY,BECAUSE I WAS NOT DOING ANYTHING MAJOR, MAKING ANY CHANGES, MAKING MY PLACE SAFE, SO THAT'S ALL,BUT I WANT TO LET THEM GET THEIR STUFF OUT OF THERE AND NOT GET IN TROUBLE TO TAKE THEIR STUFF OUT, UNTIL I GET THE PROPER APPROVALS,AND I GOT FIVE SECONDS, AND I'M DONE. THANK YOU. >> MA'AM, COULD YOU GIVE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION TO >> OH, I DID THE CITY CLERK. NOT THINK ABOUT THAT. >> PUBLIC COMMENT. WOLFGANG. >> THANK YOU.HI, WOLFGANG DINING HER,GULFPORT. I AM HERE PARTIALLY REPRESENTING GULFPORT GRASSROOTS, THE VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION THAT PUTS ONTHE MONTHLY BEACH CLEANUPS HERE IN GULFPORT FOR ABOUT 11 YEARS NOW,AND WE ALSO DO THETWO CLAM BY YOU CLEANUPS EVERY YEAR AS THE CITY OF GULFPORT, AND NOW IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. THIS YEAR,WE HAVE HAD FOURGREAT JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH, APRIL. CLEANUPS, THIS LAST ONE IN APRIL, WE HAD 52 VOLUNTEERS SHOW UP, INCLUDING 12 CHILDREN FROM A CUB SCOUT TROOP IN ST. PETERSBURG, TRIP NUMBER 295 FROM THE SKYWAY DISTRICT.IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THESE KIDS RUNNING AROUNDWITH THE PICKERS AND PAILS AND HAVING A BLAST. WE ALSO HAD SIX REPRESENTATIVES, ONCE AGAIN, FROM STETSON COLLEGE. BOTH STUDENTSFROM THE LAW SCHOOL, AND ALSOWE HAD THE STETSON HATTERS THERE.NOT 100% CLEAR ON WHAT THEY ARE,BUT THEY ARE THERE, AND THEY SHOW UP AND THEY HAVE T-SHIRTS THAT ARE TOO COOL THAT SAY, STETSON HATTERS. WE ALSO HADREPRESENTATIVES, STUDENTS FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA, ST. PETERSBURG. IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THEM.WE HAD A LOT OF GOOD STUDENTS.WE HAD 192 POUNDS OF TRASHTHAT WERE COLLECTED, AND OUR BEACH CLEANUPS-- I CALL THEM INDEED, THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE. BEYOND THE BEACH CLEANUPS. THESE VOLUNTEERS GO UP AND DOWN THE ALLEYS,UP AGAINST THE SEAWALL, ACROSS FROM MADDIE'S AND STORM RUNNERS,AND THEY PICK ALL OF THIS TRASH OUT OF THERE.TALK ABOUT TRASH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, SMOKING. I WAS AT TREASURE ISLAND LAST WEEK.THERE SMOKING ON TREASURE ISLAND. IS NO THERE IS NO SMOKING AT MADEIRA BEACH.THERE IS NO SMOKING ON THE BEACHES OR PARKS IN ST. PETERSBURG.THERE IS NO SMOKING ON SARASOTA BEACHES, MADEIRA BEACH, INDIAN ROCKS,I COULD GO ON AND ON. WHO HAS SMOKING STILL ALLOWED?GULFPORT. WHAT IS WRONG, PEOPLE?WE NEED TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE.I ASKED THE COUNCIL TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY , DRAFT AN ORDINANCE. LET'S STOP THIS SMOKING. TREASURE ISLAND HAD NO ASHTRAYS ON THE BEACHES. THERE WERE NO BUTTS THAT I COULD FIND. WE NEED TO BE A LEADER. THANK YOU. >> NEXT, PUBLIC COMMENT. RIGHT HERE. >> THANK YOU, MADAME MAYOR.TO IF WE WANT TO DO ANYTHING, COMMENT, I THINK THAT IS WRONG. RESPOND TO HIS WE SHOULD ENFORCE A LITTLE MORE TRASH PICKUP AND ALL THAT STUFF, AND MAKE PEOPLE COUNTTHAT WAY. IF THEY WANT TO SMOKE, LET THEM SMOKE. I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, MAYOR LOVE, AND OUR NEWLY ELECTED COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT HAS BEEN A FEW MONTHS SINCE I HAVE BEEN TO A MEETING HERE. I HAVE BEEN VERY BUSY WORKING ON MY HOME AND I'M HAPPY TO REPORT TONIGHT AFTER SIX LONG MONTHS, MY FAMILY AND I ARE FINALLY BACK HOME HERE IN GULFPORT. IT HAS NOT BEEN EASY, AND THE CITY BEARS A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT. WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO GET TO,TO GET BACK TO NORMAL. WE HAVE THE WATERFRONT THAT NEEDS REBUILT. OUR PLANNING MAJOR REFORMS.THE CITY HAS AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO FIGURE OUT, HOW TO INACTIONS DONE ATONE FOR BOTH ITS ACTIONS AND TO HURRICANE AFFECTED RESIDENTS. THE FABRICATION BY THE TIDAL BASIN GROUP IN OUR CITY HAVE SUBSTANTIAL DETERMINATIONS TO HOMES THAT WERE NOT EXISTING, AND IT MUST NOT GO UNPUNISHED.I'M GLAD TO SEE SOME OF THIS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. I'M ALSO VERY DISAPPOINTED TO SEE ARESOLUTION TO CONTRACT TIDAL BASIN GROUP FOR CONTINUING SERVICES. THE ACTIONS OF TIDAL BASIN GROUP HAVE BEENCRIMINAL, IN MY OPINION, AND I, FOR ONE, DO NOT WANT TO SEE ONE RED CENT OF OUR CITY TAXPAYER DOLLARS GO TO THIS COMPANY. I DO NOT KNOW WHY THE GOVERNOR HAS NOT ORDERED AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE ACTIONS OF THIS COMPANY BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, BUT I HOPE IT HAPPENS SOON. HEADS DO NEED TO ROLL ON THIS ONE.I WOULD URGE COUNCIL TO BOW DOWN -- VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS IS A DIRECT SLAP IN THE FACE OF THANK YOU. THE RESIDENTS OF GULFPORT. >> THANK YOU. JIM. >> DEB ATKINS, 4526 27th AVENUE. I HAVE FIVE PROPERTIES IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY OF MY HOME THAT ARE ABANDONED, AND I SAY ABANDONED,BECAUSE NO ONE IS LIVING IN THEM, AND HERE WE ARE,EIGHT MONTHS PAST THE STORM AND THERE IS NO FOR SALE SIGN IN THE YARDS. THE FENCES ARE DOWN. THE GATES ARE OPEN.THE GRASS IS SKYHIGH AND WE STARTED TO SEE RODENTS.I AM NOT HERE WITH A SOLUTION. I'M NOT ADVOCATING FORCODE VIOLATION FINES FOR THESE PEOPLE TO INFLICT MORE INJURY. THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN FLOODED AND FORCED FROM THEIR HOME,BUT AT SOME POINT, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO ABOUT THESE PROPERTIES. MAYBE I COULD TALK WITH WOLF AND WE COULD GET GRASSROOTS TOGETHER TO MOW THE GRASS, CLEANUP, REMOVE THE DEBRIS,BUT I CAN IMAGINE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE. THIS IS JUST WHAT I SEE IN MY NEIGHBORHOODAND I HAVE NOT BEEN THROUGH OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY, BUT I THINK IT IS SOMETHINGWE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT BECAUSE NOTHING IS HAPPENING WITH THESE PROPERTIES. SOME OF IT, IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THEY DID REMEDIATION.THE FURNITURE IS INSIDE. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE MOLD SITUATION. THESE ARE ALL PROPERTIES THAT I KNOW TOOK INTO --UP TO TWO FEET OF WATER OR MORE. >> THANK YOU. MS. LEONARD. >> HI, I AM BARBARA LEONARD, AND I RETIRED FROM TEACHING BUSINESS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF HAWAIIAND MOVED TO GULFPORT ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO. AND, I HAVE A PHD IN BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, AND I HAVE TAUGHT FOR 30 YEARS, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY,I WANT TO COMMENT ON A FEW THINGS I THINK WE ARE DOING RIGHT AND A FEW THINGS THAT I THINK NEED TO BE IMPROVED. MY HUSBAND, GEORGE, AND I OWN A HOME IN TOWN CHORES AND WE OWN A HOME ON QUINCY STREET. QUINCY IS OUR RESIDENCE. WE WERE RENTING OUT OUR CONDO IN TOWN SHORES UNTIL THE FLOOD.WE ASK OUR TENANTS TO LEAVE, AND WE WERE ABLE TO LIVE IN OUR CONDO UNTIL WE GOT OUR HOUSE TOGETHER.LUCKILY, WE ARE CLOSE TO HAVING OUR FINAL BUILDING INSPECTION,SO WE HAVE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS IN GETTING HER HOUSE PUT BACK TOGETHER. I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE RESOLUTION, 2025 -38 TO REMOVE THE PLAN REVIEW AND PERMITTING SUPPORT FORTEW AND TAYLOR. DAVE TAYLOR HAS BEEN OUR INSPECTOR. HE HAS COME OUT TO OUR HOUSE FOUR OR FIVE TIMES NOW, AND HE HAS BEEN EXCELLENT. HE HAS BEEN SO SUPPORTIVE AND SO HELPFUL, SO I WANT TO SUPPORT THAT RESOLUTION. I ALSO WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE TIDAL BASIN-- THIS HAS REALLY DONE SO MUCH PSYCHIC DAMAGE TO PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY.WE GOT A SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED LETTER SAYING THAT WE HAD TO RAISE UP OUR HOUSE.I HAD A CONTRACTOR COME OUT AND TELL ME IT WOULD BE, AT LEAST, $200,000 TO RAISE IT UP,AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO DESTROY THE ADDITION ON THE BACK OF THE PERMITTED, WHICH WOULD REDUCE HOUSE, WHICH WAS OUR LIVING SPACE BY HALF , FOR $200,000,AND HE SAID, STAIRS WOULD BE EXTRA.THAT DID NOT APPEAL TO US,SO WE WENT AHEAD AND GOT A CONTRACTOR TO PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF EVERYTHING IT WOULD TAKE TO FIX UP HER HOUSE, WHICH WE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY, AND IT WAS LESS THAN 50%OF OUR STATED CASH VALUE,SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET WITHTHAT PROCESS, PERMITS, AND I AM VERY HAPPY WHEN IT FINALLY HAPPENED.IT ONLY TOOK FIVE MONTHS TO GET A PERMIT.ONCE WE GOT OUR PERMIT, OUR CONTRACTORS WERE READY TO ROLL, AND WE ARE ALMOST DONE, SO I AM SO, SO HAPPY.ONE MORE THING I WANT TO SAY IN MY LAST 30 SECONDS -- THE MARINA,SINCE WE HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 10 YEARS, WE HAVE KEPT A BOAT IN THE MARINA ALMOST THE ENTIRE TIME. WE SOLD OUR BOAT RIGHT BEFORE THE HURRICANE LAST YEAR.BUT, I UNDERSTAND THE MARINA IS NOT SELLING GAS OR DIESEL.THEY ARE GIVING UP WELL OVER $100,000 A MONTH IN REVENUE.THE CASINOS, GIVING UP OR NOT TAKING IN $100,000 A MONTH IN REVENUE,AND I FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE, THAT WE ARE NOT BORROWING THE MONEY TO FIX THESE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> WHO IS NEXT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? MARILYN? >> MARILYN McCLELLAN, I LIVE OVER ON EVERYBODY.I'M GLAD FOR SOME 56th STREET. CONGRATULATIONS, FRESH ENERGY, NEW IDEAS TO MAKE GULFPORT EVEN BETTER THAN IT IS. I HAVE TWO THINGS ON MY MIND. I HAVE BEEN RELUCTANT TO BRING THEM UP, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT OF THEIR HOMES,AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, BUT MAYBE, NOW, IT IS TIME. ONE IS, THE ONE-WAY STREETS ON BEACH BOULEVARD.I LIVE RIGHT OFF OF THE BEACH.AT LEAST, TWICE A WEEK, I MEET A CAR GOING THE WRONG DIRECTION. ARE ONE-WAY SIGNS OF.I DON'T I KNOW THERE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT, OR WHETHER THEY ARE SO BUSY TRYING TO FIGURE OUTWHERE THEY ARE, BUT MAYBE, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, WE COULD PUT A BIG, WHITE ARROW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD THAT SAYS, ONE-WAY. ONCE THEY GET ON IT, THERE IS NOT REALLY ANYTHING THAT TELLS THEM THEY ARE GOING THE WRONG NOW, WITH THE NEW CONTRACTORS WAY. I'M AFRAID, ESPECIALLY, AND MORE ACTIVITY IN TOWN, THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT GET HURT.THE OTHER THING IS, OUR BELOVED CASINO.IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IS REALLY AN ICON OF GULFPORT, AND REGARDLESS OF THE HURRICANES, EVERY TIME THERE IS A SUMMER STORM,WE SEEM TO HAVE A BOAT CRASHING INTO IT.I KNOW THE WHOLE BOATING THING IS AN ISSUE, BUT I WOULD LIKE US TO TAKE A LOOK AT, CAN WE BUILD A BULKHEAD OR SOMETHING OUT OF THE WATER OFF OF THE CASINO?IN THE EVENT, THAT A BOAT DOES COME UP, IT CRASHES INTO THE ROCKS INSTEAD OF TAKING OUT THE CASINO. I'M AFRAID ONE OF THESE TIMES,WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REBUILD IT. JUST MY >> THANK YOU. NEXT?WHO THOUGHTS. THANK YOU. ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. YES. COURTNEY. >> HELLO, HELLO, HELLO, MY NAME IS COURTNEY.OVERBYE STETSON, I HAVE FOUR BRIEF ITEMS TO RAISE.FIRSTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ABOUT THE GULFPORT POLICE DEPARTMENT'S POLICY, REGARDING COLLABORATION WITH IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT, OR I.C.E. HAS GULFPORT PARTICIPATED IN THE I.C.E. PROGRAM? IF SO, WHICH ONE,WHICH WARRANT SERVICE OFFICER GULFPORT OFFICERS COMPLETED WAS USED, AND WHICH THE TRAINING. MOREOVER, AS OUR OFFICERS OPERATE UNDER MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS, SUCH AS ST. PETERSBURGPD, PINELLAS COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, FLORIDA STATE POLICEOR WHAT SAFEGUARDS ARE IN OTHER NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITY, ANY PLACE TO PROTECT RESIDENTS,WHEN POLICIES THAT DIFFER FROM THOSE MUTUAL AID AGENCIES HAVE OUR AGENCY? WHERE EXACTLY ARE WE DRAWING THE LINE? THIS IS NOT AN ABSTRACT IDEA. A LEGAL PERMANENT RESIDENT OF ST. PETE WAS RECENTLY APPREHENDED AS A PASSENGER DURING A ROUTINE TRAFFIC STOP NEAR I-275 IN ST. PETERSBURG EARLIER THIS MONTH. THIS WAS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE'S COWORKER. HE HAS A GREEN CARD.YET, HE SPENT THE LAST WEEKS BEING TRANSFERRED FROM HERE TONORTH FLORIDA TO ARIZONA, TO NEW MEXICO, AND IS NOW IN TEXAS UNDER I.C.E. CUSTODY. DISAPPEARING LEGAL RESIDENCE WITHOUT DUE PROCESSIS A REAL AND URGENT CONCERN.THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW OUR CITIES ROLE AND POSITION.WHAT SAFEGUARDS ARE IN PLACE TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS?IN ADDITION TO ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS PUBLICLY DURING THE CITY MANAGER REPORT, TO THE EXTENT OF YOUR ABILITY, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FOR A PRESENTATION AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING FROM GULFPORT PD ARTICULATING WORKING WITH I.C.E. MY SECOND THEIR INVOLVEMENT AND PLANS ITEM TO RAISE IS REGARDING LONG-TERM RECOVERY RESILIENCY. TODAY, THERE WAS AN FDEM GOVERNMENT WEBINAR FOCUSED ON THEHAZARD MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM. DID ANYONE FROM THE CITY ATTEND, OR DO THEY PLAN ON WATCHING THE RECORDING AFTER-THE-FACT? IT SHOULD BE POSTED,AND IS THE COUNTY'S LOCAL CITY ENGAGING WITH NELLIS GROUP? AS REQUIRED FOR MITIGATION STRATEGY WORKING PARTICIPATION?THIRDLY, I WANT TO FOLLOW-UP ON THE RESILIENCY WORKSHOP THAT WAS IT STILL ON TRACK? FLOATED LAST COUNCIL MEETING.IS BEFORE MAY 15th? I HOPE IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN SO. FOURTHLY, THE RECOVER NELLIS SURVEY IS OPEN.IT'S A GREAT WAY TODETERMINE HOW FUNDS WILL BE SPENT ACROSS THE COUNTY.IF YOU BELIEVE IN LAND CONSERVATION RESILIENCY, GO ONLINE TO PINELLAS.GOV. ON A HAPPIER NOTE, I WANT TO EXTEND MY SINCERE THANKS TO THECOUNCIL MEMBERS, AND THE CITY MANAGER, US LAST THURSDAY EVENING.I HAVE WHO JOINED POSTED A RECAP FOR THOSE WHO COULD NOT ATTEND, AND FOR GENERAL -- THANK YOU. >> TO BE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT? DAVID. MARGARET, YOU WILL BE NEXT. >>DAVID,GULFPORT BOULEVARD. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ASK A QUESTIONAND SEE IF THE COUNCIL CAN LOOK AT IT. ON ITEM 11 TONIGHT, IT IS THERE EVERY COUNCIL MEETING.I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.IT IS ALL IN FAVOR OF THE CITY, AND NOT FOR THE CITIZENS. IT IS GOING TO COSTTHE CITIZENS, IF THEY HAVE TO DO A VERBATIM APPEAL OF ANY KIND. I THINK, PERHAPS, IT COULD BE A BIT MORE FAIR,AND IF IT IS IN OUR CHARTER, WRITTEN LIKE THAT TODAY,I THINK IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, IF YOU COULD BE SO KIND. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. MARGARET. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE COULD I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT YOU DIDA GREAT JOB AT THE LAST MEETING. IT WAS A LITTLE LONG, BUT YOU DID GREAT. CITY MANAGER,I THINK YOU ARE WEARING THAT TIE IN HONOR OF THE FLORIDA GATORS CHAMPIONSHIP. HAS ANYONE EVER INVITED SENATOR CIGLIA TO COME TO GULFPORT? I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. I WON'T ELABORATE.ALSO, I WAS WONDERING, WHY IS IT THAT THE BILLING DEPARTMENT DOES NOT REPORT TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT?THAT IS VERY MUCH UNLIKE ANYTHING I HAVE EVER ENCOUNTEREDIN MY 40 YEAR CAREER WITHACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE AND SO FORTH, SO THAT IS A QUESTION, AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS,IT APPEARS THAT ACCOUNTS ARE GETTING RE-AGED WITHOUT PAYMENTS, AND I AM WONDERING HOW YOU DO THAT.MAYBE SOMEBODY COULD EXPLAIN THAT. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT, LENNY. >> AT AFTERNOON.GOOD EVENING. LENNY GUGGENHEIM OR, 5213 GILLETTE AVENUE SOUTH.I WOULD LIKE FOR THECOUNCIL TO CONSIDERESTABLISHINGA CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSIONTO EXAMINE THE CHARTER, AND ALSO, THE OF CITY GOVERNMENT, ANDHERE STRUCTURE ON THE AGENDA TODAY,THE CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT SOME OPTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, BUT I THINK, JUST FROM WHAT QUESTIONS WITHIN THE MARGARET JUST MENTIONED ABOUT CITIZENSREVIEWCOMMISSION FINANCE DEPARTMENT, THAT COULD HELP WITHDECIDING THE STRUCTURE OF GOVERNMENT, HOW IT RESPONDS,THE THAT KIND OF THING, SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED, AS WELL AS ESTABLISHINGRULES FOR COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH STAFF.THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL INCIDENTS IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARSOR TWO, WHEN IT WAS CLEAR THAT COUNCIL WAS LACKINGCRITICAL INFORMATION, AND FOR WHATEVER REASON,STAFF WAS NOT ABLE TO CONVEY THAT INFORMATION TO COUNCIL, ANDWE ARE SUFFERING FROM THAT TODAY, THAT WE HAVE TO EXAMINE WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE DOING.AT THIS POINT IN TIME,REALLY, IT INDICATESTHAT THERE HAS BEEN A CRITICAL LACK OF OVERSIGHT, ANDGUIDANCE , AND THATI THINKBY REVIEWING THE CHARTERAND EXAMINING THESE DIFFERENT ISSUES,THAT A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION COULD HELP RESOLVESOME OF THESE PROBLEMS AND MAKECITY GOVERNMENT MORE EFFECTIVE, AND LIVE UP TO ITS CHARTER, OF MAKING TO LIVE. THANK YOU. GULFPORT A BETTER PLACE >> THANK YOU.DO I HAVE ANYONE ELSE? YES. PLEASE. >> I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION I KNOW YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT.TONIGHT, I UNDERSTAND WE WILL BE DISCUSSING SOME OF THE PERMIT FRUSTRATIONS WE HAVE GONE THROUGH.IS THAT DONE THROUGH THE PUBLIC COMMENT PART OR LATER ON IN THE >> IN THE MEETING, WE MEETING? HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEM,AND AFTER THE COUNCIL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK,WE WILL BE ASKING FOR PUBLIC >> GREAT. COMMENT, AS WELL. I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION. >> WE WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING THE FRUSTRATIONS, WE WILL BE DISCUSSING OPTIONS FOR SOLUTIONS. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? KAREN. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. KAREN SCHWARTZ.LENNY AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS EXTENSIVELY. WE ARE JUST BACK FROM KISSIMMEE, AND ONE THINGTHAT WE BOTH THINK IS VITAL TO STREAMLINING, UNDERSTANDING THINGS LIKE WHAT MARGARET WAS TALKING ABOUT, THINGS LIKE FRUSTRATIONS WITH HOW THINGS ARE GOINGAT THE PLANNING ANDZONING -- ALL THOSE THINGS.WORKSHOPS. MANY, MANY, MANY CITIES HAVE REGULAR WORKSHOPS, WHICH IS A TIME FOR STAFF-- IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLICAND IT IS A TIME THAT STAFF AND COUNCIL MEETS TOGETHER, CAN FREELY THINGS LIKE, ASKING PEOPLE-- I DISCUSS CAN NEVER SAY IT RIGHT, BUT THE PERMITTING DEPARTMENT OR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT--WHAT IS THE HOLD UP? WHAT IS GOING ON?HOW DO YOU THINK THIS PROCESS COULD BE IMPROVED? AND, THEY, TYPICALLY, HAVE THEM --SOME HAVE THEM FOR EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL MEETING, BUT IT IS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO IMPROVE COMMUNICATION, WITHOUT HAVING TO GO AROUND THE BACK DOOR OR GO THROUGH THECITY MANAGER, WHO CAN TALK TO THE STAFF PERSON. IT COULD BE MUCH-- IT COULD MUCH MORE STREAMLINED. ANYWAY. JUST BE THAT IS MY COMMENT.IT IS SO NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY. IT IS REALLY LOVELY. >> DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? >> YES. OKAY. >> I AM BRENDA. I'M HERE AS A RESIDENTAND AS A CONTRACTOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE SOME OF THIS IS GERMANE TO THE CONVERSATION NOW. I CAME WITH FAX. >> THIS IS NOT FOR ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA?IF IT IS A DISCUSSION ABOUT PERMITTING, IT WILL BE LATER. >> LATER ON IS FOR SOLUTIONS. THESE ARE FACTS THAT MAY BE GERMANE TO THE CONVERSATION, SO PEOPLE HEAR THEM NOW, THEY CAN INCORPORATE SOME OF THIS.I AM NOT JUST A RESIDENT THAT PAYS TAXES, I RUN A CONSTRUCTION COMPANYAND ALL I AM TALKING ABOUT IS SOLAR PROJECTS. I HAVE DONE VERY MANY IN GULFPORT. SOME OF THOSE FOLKS ARE IN THIS ROOM, AND WHAT I PULLED VERY QUICKLY, AND I MAKE CAREFUL I WAS LOOKING AT JOBS THAT ARE ALL THE SAME SIZE, THE SAME COST , FROM LOCALMUNICIPALITIES, HURRICANES, BECAUSE I THOUGHT PRIOR TO THE IT WOULD BE UNFAIRTO COMPARE A COMMUNITY THAT WAS HEAVILY AFFECTED TO ONE THAT WAS NOT SO HEAVILY AFFECTED. OKAY, SO IN THE CITY OF GULFPORT, WHAT YOU GET TOLD WHEN YOU DROP OFF EVERYTHING OR SUBMIT ONLINE IS THAT IT'S A MINIMUM OF THREE WEEKS TO LOOK AT IT. 15 BUSINESS DAYS, THREE WEEKS.IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, JUST ACROSS THE WAY, IT IS IMMEDIATE. YOU FILL IT OUT ONLINE, YOUR PERMIT IS ISSUED.PINELLAS COUNTY, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FIVE AND 10 DAYS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, USUALLY COVER THE OR FOUR DAYS AT THE WORST. SAME DAY, SOMETIMES, THREE PASCOE COUNTY, THE LAST ONE I GOT WITH THE CRITERIA WAS 11 DAYS.SOMETIMES FIVE, SOMETIMES UP TO TWO WEEKS. IN ADDITION, NOT ONLY DO WE WAIT THE LONGEST IN GULFPORT, I PAID $570.18,ALMOST $580. HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, IT IS UNDER $200. $195.THE CITY OF TAMPA, A WHOPPING $124. PINELLAS COUNTY, $347. PASCOE COUNTY, $381.NOT ONLY DO WE WAIT THE LONGEST, WE PAY THE MOST.IN ADDITION, I WAS SO HAPPY WHEN THEY GOT SOFTWARE. THEY HAVE THE SLOWEST, OLDEST SOFTWARE EVER. EVERYBODY ELSE OFFERS STUFF THAT INTEGRATES PAYMENTS. YOU CAN UPDATE YOUR LICENSE EVERY TIME YOUR INSURANCE RENEWS.YOU CAN DO YOUR GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE, WORKMAN'S COMP, ALL THOSE THINGS CAN GET DONE IN ADDITION TO PERMITS, AND INSPECTIONS. INSTEAD OF PAYING SOMEBODY $25 TO SIT AROUND AND WAIT FOR SOMEBODY TO SHOW UPAT ANY OLD TIME, MANY OF THEM OFFER VIRTUAL INSPECTIONS THAT CAN BE SCHEDULED.EITHER THE GUY HOLDS HIS PHONE UP SO THE INSPECTOR CAN SEE EVERYTHING, OR THEY DO IT BY AFFIDAVIT AND PHOTOGRAPHS. NOT ALL OF THEM OFFER THAT, BUT THAT IS WHERE THE STATE OF THE MARKET IS,AND THAT POOR WOMAN, WHO DOES NOT HAVE A TOILET, THE REASON WHY NOBODY WANTS TO GET PERMITS IS ASTRONOMICAL AND THE BECAUSE THE FEES ARE WEIGHTS ARE SO LONG,SO THERE ARE SOME MUNICIPALITIES, AND GULFPORT IS SOON TO BE ONE OF THEM, WHERE I WILL HAVE TO CHARGE MORE TO WORK HERE.WE WILL FINISH THE REST LATER. >> THANK YOU.THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS, JUST LIKE YOU DID.ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, BEFORE I CLOSE IT?ALL RIGHT, PUBLIC COMMENT HAS BEEN CLOSED. THAT WILL LEAD US TO THE CITY'S MANAGERS REPORT.JUST A REMINDER, DURING THE CITY MANAGERS REPORT, HE WILL ADDRESS THE THINGS THAT HE WANTS TO.I KNOW MOST OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED TONIGHT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, HE AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT OR AREALREADY ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.PLEASE UNDERSTAND, THIS IS OUR SECOND MEETING,AND A REMINDER TO THE COUNCIL THE CITY MANAGER'S REPORT,WE THAT DURING WILL NOT BE INTERRUPTING AT ANY POINT, BUT WHEN HE IS DONE, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY IN SPEAKING ORDER TO CLARIFY ANYTHING THAT HE ADDRESSED, THAT YOU NEED CLARIFICATION ON,AND IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF HIM, THAT WILL BE HANDLEDDURING COUNCIL COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. CITY MANAGER. >> MAYOR, THIS EVENING,I HAVE ONE ITEM I CAN ADDRESS. THIS I.C.E. ISSUE.THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN GULFPORT POLICE AND I.C.E. BECAUSE OF THE STATE LAWS THAT ARE NOW IN PLACE, WE HAVE WORKED WITH PINELLAS COUNTY SHERIFF, AND WE ARE WORKING WITHOTHER AGENCIES. THERE IS NO ACTIVE PURSUIT OF ANY INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE OF THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS.IF YOU WERE TO INTERACT WITH AN INDIVIDUAL BASED ON A CRIME OR A COMPLAINT OF SUCH,AND WE WERE TO RESPOND TO IT, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL, THEY WOULD BE PUT IN THE SYSTEM. THE SYSTEM MAY REFLECTTHAT THERE IS A I.C.E. HOLD ON THEM OR WARRANT.WE WILL NOT EXECUTE THE I.C.E. WARRANT.WE WILL NOTIFY I.C.E. OF THIS INDIVIDUAL'S PRESENCE, BUT WE WILL NOTINCARCERATE THEM. WE WILL NOT TAKE THEM TO THE COUNTY JAIL. WE WILL NOTIFY I.C.E.WE WILL THEN DETAIN THEM FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, NOT TO EXCEED ONE HOUR , TO GIVE I.C.E. THE OPPORTUNITY TO ARRIVE.IF THEY DO NOT ARRIVE, WE ARE NOT INCARCERATING THEM.WE ARE NOT ARRESTING THEM.WE THEIR WAY. WE ARE SENDING THEM ON HAVE TAKEN THEIR INFORMATION.IT CAN BE TURNED OVER TO THE AGENCY AS APPROPRIATEWE ARE NOT OUT ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR ANYONEDUE TO THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS.WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY DUE TO THE STATE STATUTE TO DO IT, BUT THE SHERIFF AND OUR ATTORNEY FROM OUR INSURANCE CARRIER HAS STATED, WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE.WE ARE NOT OUT CHECKING GREEN CARDS OR ANYTHING TO THAT EFFECT.I TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF OFFENSE TO THAT, BECAUSE WE HAVE SUCH A DIVERSE COMMUNITY. WE HAVE NEVER EXERCISEDTHE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THAT MANNER,AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG.I CANNOT SPEAK TO THE SHERIFF, OTHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE SHERIFF, THAT THIS WOULD BE AN ACCEPTABLE MEANS FOR US TO ENFORCE. BUT, WE ARE NOT PURSUING ANY INDIVIDUAL-- THE ONLY INTERACTION WE WOULD HAVE WITH SOMEONEWOULD BE IN REGARDS TO AN ACTUAL POLICE COMPLAINT.THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO ANYONE SITTING ON THIS DAIS. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> ALL RIGHT.WE WILL GO IN SPEAKING ORDER, IF ANYONE NEEDS TO CLEAR ANYTHINGTHAT HE HAS SAID, AND WE WILL START >> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS WITH COUNCILMEMBER SHAW. REGARDING THAT TOPIC. >> COUNCILMEMBER THANOS. >> OH, I HAVE TO READ THIS THING AGAIN. COUNCILMEMBER JACKSON. >> I HAVE NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> I HAVE NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH JIM ABOUT THIS BEFORE. THANK >> I DO HAVE A COMMENT.BASED ON YOU. WHAT COURTNEY BROUGHT UP, IF ST. PETE IS IN OUR THEY WOULD DO IN OUR JURISDICTION, DO WE KNOW WHAT JURISDICTION? DO THEY HAVE TO >>IF THE ISSUE ARRIVED INST. FOLLOW OUR RULES? PETERSBURG, THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY REASON THEY WOULD COME HERE.IF THE ISSUE ARISES IN ST. PETERSBURG, THEY WILL APPLY THEIR POLICIES. >> IF IT HAPPENS IN GULFPORT, AND THEY HAPPEN TO BE THE OFFICER -- >> IF THE ISSUE ARISES IN GULFPORT, IT WOULD BE OUR OFFICERS THAT WOULD APPLY OUR >> DON'T WE SOMETIMES COME POLICY. INTO THE OTHER CITIES? >> IF THE ISSUE STARTED IN THEIR JURISDICTION, THEY WOULD APPLY THEIR POLICIES. ANYTHING THAT WE DOTHAT IS IN GULFPORT , OUR JURISDICTION, WOULD BE OUR POLICY. >> OKAY. THAT'S GOOD.THE I.C.E. LISTING OF THINGS, WHETHER THEY HAVE A WARRANT OUT, OR JUST ON THE LIST, DO WE -- WHEN WE SEE THEM ON THE LIST, IS AN OFFICER ABLE TO SEEWHY THEY ARE ON THE LIST? >> NO, AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE DO NOT --IT MAY SAY AN I.C.E. HOLD.WE DO NOT GO ANY FURTHER THAN THAT.WE ARE NOT INTERACTING, OTHER THAN TO NOTIFY I.C.E.THAT WE HAVE AN INTERACTION WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL. WE ARE NOT TAKING CUSTODY OF THEM. >> WE DON'T ASK THEM THEIR IMMIGRATION STATUS? >> NO, WE DO NOT. >> OR, IF THEY ARE U.S. CITIZEN? >> NO. WE ARE DEALING WITH THEM BASED ON A CRIMINAL COMPLAINT. WE ARE ONLY INTERACTING WITH THEM BECAUSE WE HAVE A PURPOSERELATED TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT OR STATE LAW OR FEDERAL LAW. >> OKAY, SAY THEY WERE SPEEDING, FOR INSTANCE, AND WE STOPPED THEM,AND WE SEE THAT THEY ARE ON AN I.C.E. LIST, AND WE GO TO HOLD THEM. IF THEY TELL US THEY ARE U.S. CITIZEN -- >> WHAT WE WILL DO, WE WILL HOLD THEMAND GIVE I.C.E. THE OPPORTUNITYTO COME TAKE CUSTODY OF THEM.IF THEY DO NOT SHOW UP,WE DO NOT THEN HAVE AN ISSUE.I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT, BECAUSEOF THE STATE LAW AND FEDERAL LAWS THAT ARE IN PLACE. WE WILL DETAIN THEM FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND ALLOW THEMTO BE TAKEN INTO CUSTODY, IF THAT IS WHAT I.C.E. CHOOSES TO DO. WE DON'T IMPLEMENT THE I.C.E. PROCESS. >> BECAUSE, IF THEY ARE U.S. CITIZEN, THEY SHOULD NOT BE ON ANY I.C.E. LIST. >> ALL WE DO IS ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY HAVE THIS HOLD FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. WE WILL GIVE THE PROFESSIONAL COURTESY TO DETAIN THEM.IF THEY DON'T COME OVER FROM TAMPA TO PICK THEM UP, WE ARE SENDING THEM ON THEIR WAY. >> OKAY. >> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.ALL RIGHT, THAT WILL TAKE US TO THE CITY ATTORNEY REPORT. >> MAYOR, BASED ON THE ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ON THE NO SMOKING ON THE BEACHES, I BROUGHT THAT UP SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WHEN THE STATE LAW ALLOWED US TO,AND AT THAT POINT, COUNCILDID NOT WANT TO ENTERTAIN IT.IF COUNCIL WANTS TO ENTERTAIN IT, I AM HAPPY TO DRAFT THE ORDINANCE. BUT, WE HAD BROUGHT IT UP BEFORE.I JUST NEED DIRECTION, IF YOU WANT TO CHOOSE TO DO IT NOW, ANOTHER TIME, WHENEVER,BUT WE HAVE LOOKED AT IT, AND WE, CERTAINLY, CAN DRAFT THATKIND OF ORDINANCE IF COUNCIL WANTS IT. >> I AM NOT WISHY-WASHY ON THAT. I KNOW EXACTLY THE WAY I FEEL. DO WE WANT TO GO IN SMOKING -- SPEAKING ORDER?HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT INCORPORATING, AS WE ARE HAVING TO REPLENISH OUR BEACH AND DO SOME NEW THINGS ANYWAY?THERE WILL BE A NEED FOR NEW SIGNAGE. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT MAKING OUR BEACHES NON-SMOKING? >> I HAVE READ QUITE A BITABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF CIGARETTE BUTTS, AND THE IMPROVEMENTSBY NOT ALLOWING CIGARETTE BUTTS ON BEACHES.SO, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD CONSIDERATION TO DRAFT A RESOLUTION.WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE PUBLIC HAS A CHANCE TO COMMENT ON THAT FROM THAT POINT, AND THEN WE COULD MAKE A DETERMINATION. >> ALL RIGHT. >> I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT AN ORDINANCE FOR NO SMOKING ON THE BEACH IN GULFPORT, ALSO. >> I AM, AS WELL. >> SO AM I, AND THE REASON WE DID NOT DO IT BEFORE WAS BECAUSE IT IS HARD TO ENFORCE IT, AND WE DID NOT WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER LAW AT THAT TIME. THEY FELT IT WOULD BE HARD TO ENFORCE,BUT IN FURTHER TALKING TO PEOPLE -- WE DID TALK ABOUT PUTTING UP SIGNS, BUT THEY NEVER HAPPENED. SAYING, PLEASE PICK UP YOUR BUTTS OR SOMETHING CUTE.EVEN WHEN THERE ARE SIGNS, EVEN WHEN IT IS NOT ACTIVELYENFORCED, THEY STILL SEE A WAY BIGGER NUMBER IN THE REDUCTION OF BUTTS ON THE BEACH, SO I THINK IT WOULD BE >> MAYOR, I WILL PREPARE THAT GREAT. AND BRING IT BACK FORCOUNCIL'S >> I THINK THAT IS CONSIDERATION. GREAT. IT'S TIME WE CATCH UP WITH IT THE REST OF THE >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR. COMMUNITY. >> CITY CLERK REPORT. >> I DO HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS THIS EVENING. WE HAVE TWO AGENCIES THAT WE ARE AFFILIATED WITH,AND WE BOARDS, AND THAT IS FORWARD HAD APPOINTMENTS ON THESE PINELLAS. FORMER MAYOR SAM HENDERSON WAS THE APPOINTED PERSON. THIS TERM,IT PASADENA, AND KENNETH CITY.IF REPRESENTS GULFPORT, WE DO NOT REPLACE OUR APPOINTMENT, IT WILL GO ON TO THE NEXT CITY.I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAD ANY CONSENSUS, ON ANYBODY, WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THE FORWARD PINELLAS BOARD, AND TAKE THE SEAT THAT ENDS ON DECEMBER 31st, 2027. >> DO WE NEED TO GO IN SPEAKING ORDER, OR JUST SPEAK UPIF WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THAT BOARD? >> IT'S UP TO YOU, MAYOR. >> I WOULD LIKE TO BE ON THAT BOARD. IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY ELSE?OKAY, I AM APPOINTING MY CELL. >> YOU'VE GOT IT. AND, JUST TO CONFIRM,IN THE EVENT THAT YOU ARE UNABLE TO GO, THE VICE MAYOR WOULD GO IN YOUR PLACE.THESE ARE THINGS THAT I WILL BE REPORTING TO THEM TOMORROW.THE OTHER ONE IS THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.I WAS WONDERING IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTED TO TAKE THAT SEAT UP IN >> WHEN DID THEY MEET? HIS PLACE? >> ON MONDAYS, AND IT IS USUALLY ONCE EVERY OTHER MONTH, FROM 10:00 IN THE MORNING, SOMETIMES 9:00,IF YOU ARE ON THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, UNTIL ABOUT NOON. >> I STILL WORK IN THE COAL MINES. MY DAY IS TAKEN. >> ANYBODY ELSE? >> IF NOBODY TAKES IT, I AM ON THE RESILIENCY THING, AND I GO ANYWAYS, SO I WILL TAKE IT. >> THANK YOU, APRIL. >> IS ANYBODY AGAINST? >> NO. >> THAT IS ALL I HAD THIS EVENING. >> I HAVE BEEN GOING TO THE SUNCOAST LEAGUE OF CITIES AS OUR APPOINTEE,AND IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT PERHAPS, IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO LET SOME VIDEOS DO IT, BECAUSE I LEARNED HEAPS FROM DOING THAT,AND I AM WILLING TO RELINQUISH THAT, SO SOMEBODY ELSE CAN LEARN ALL THE THINGS THAT I HAVE LEARNED.AND, THEY MEET, USUALLY, ON FRIDAYS, FOR LUNCH,AND THEN THEY HAVE, SOMETIMES, SPECIAL THINGS, BUT OFTEN, THAT IS ON THE WEEKEND,AND I JUST WENT UP TO TALLAHASSEE WITH THEM, AND THEY PAY FOR IT, TO GO SEE LEGISLATORS IN A VERY SMALL GROUP, SO IT IS MORE EFFECTIVE.IF SOMEBODY IS INTERESTED IN THAT, YOU WILL LEARN A LOT. >> I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT. >> I AM FINE WITH MARLENE. >> THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. YOU ARE APPOINTED. >> I WILL LET ALL THREE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS KNOW FIRST THING IN THE MORNING. >> ALL RIGHT, PERFECT. FOR YOU, CITY CLERK, ARE YOU DONE? I HAD ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT ORGANIZING FOR A CHARTER REVIEW, AND COULD YOU MAYBEJUST A DRESS FOR A SECOND, HOW CAN A RESIDENT, WHO WANTS TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE, HOW CAN THEY GET THEMSELVESON THAT? WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR THAT? >> THAT IS SOMETHINGI WOULD NEED DIRECTION ON FROM COUNCIL. OUR CITY CHARTER LEAVES IT UP AND THE COUNCIL ON THE DIFFERENT WAYS THEY CREATE THE COMMITTEE.WE HAVE DONE IT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT WAYS IN THE PAST. I WOULD RECOMMEND NOT USING THE SAME BOARD APPLICATION THAT I PROVIDE TO EVERYONE.THERE SHOULD BE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS ON A NEW BOARD APPLICATION,IF YOU WERE WANTING TO BE ON A CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE. YOU CAN DO IT, WHERE EACH PERSON NOMINATESSOMEBODY, LIKE WE JUST DID WITH THE BOARDS.YOU CAN HAVE AN APPLICATION PROCESS. YOU CAN HAVE A WHERE THE NAMES ARE REVIEWED-- BLIND APPLICATION PROCESS, REMOVED FROM THE APPLICATIONS BEFORE YOU REVIEW THEM.THERE IS A MYRIAD OF WAYS WE CAN DO IT. IT WOULD REALLY NEED TO BE DIRECTION FROM ALL OF COUNCIL. >> IF THE COUNCIL IS THE ONE THAT PICKS THE PEOPLE,THEN, THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH SUNSHINE LAWS, CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS ARE SUNSHINE MEETINGS, IF I MAY, MAYOR.NORMALLY, WHAT HAPPENS IS, THERE ARE COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT.ONE COULD BE RECEIVING DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL AS TO WHAT SECTIONS THAT YOU REALLY WANT THEM TO LOOK AT. THEY GO THROUGH THOSE SECTIONS.THEY USUALLY MEET COUNCILMEMBERSTHAT COME TO THE WITH, EITHER INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS TO EXPRESS CONCERNS , PROVISIONS. WE ALSO HAVE DIRECTORS,PUBLIC, ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THAT,AND THEN THEY MAY GO THROUGH EVERY SECTION, MAKE PROPOSED CHANGES, WHICH COME BEFORE YOU, AND THEN, THEY MAKEA FINAL DECISION AND WE PUT IT ON FOR REFERENDUM. THE KEY HERE IS,GOING BACKWARDS FROM THE DATE OF THE ELECTION, SO THAT WE CAN DO EVERYTHING TIMELY, BECAUSE SOME OF IT HAS TO COME BEFORE YOU AT A PUBLIC MEETING. THEY HAVE TO MEET.IT IS A GROUP THAT MEETS FAIRLY FREQUENTLY FORA SHORT, INTENSE PERIOD OF TIME, FOR US TO MEET THOSE DEADLINES.I GUESS I AM SAYING, THE SOONER YOUCOME UP WITH HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT, THE BETTER FOR US TO MEET THE ELECTION DEADLINES. >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION?FROM TALKING TO THE CITY MANAGER BEFORE,HE EXPLAINED TO ME, IF WE PICK PEOPLE, THEN IT IS SUNSHINE.IF HE PICKS PEOPLE, THEN IT IS NOT SUNSHINE.IS THIS THE KIND OF BOARD WE COULD DO THAT WITH? >> YOU ARE USING THAT TO CIRCUMVENT THE INTENT. IF COUNCILIS GOING TO APPOINT THE MEMBERS,AND WE HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I, AND TERESA. VERY SIMPLY,COUNCIL EACH HAS ONE APPOINTMENT.AT THAT POINT, YOU CAN DECIDE, IF THAT IS THE FORMAT WE RECOMMEND, AND IN THE PAST, TWICE WE HAVE DONE IT.COUNCIL LOOKS OF THE CHARTER AND SAYS, WE WOULD LIKE THE COMMITTEETO LOOK AT THE SECTIONS OF THE CHARTER. AT THAT POINT,WE TAKE THOSE SECTIONS OF THE CHARTER, AND WE GIVE YOU A COPY OF THE CHARTER. YOU LOOK AT THE SECTIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED AND TAKE INPUT ON.AT THAT POINT, WE WOULD MEET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, AND ADDRESS THOSE SECTIONS OF THE CHARTER.THEY WOULD THEN GIVE YOU THEIR OPINION.WE READ A MEMO THAT SAYS, WE RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING.IT IS A MAJORITY ENVIRONMENT, JUST LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THIS BOARD.THEY RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING CHANGE TO A SECTION,AND THEN, YOU WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THE REFERENDUM QUESTION, THAT WOULD BE PUT FORTH TO THE VOTERS.YOU MAY DETERMINE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THAT SECTION. YOU ARE THE ULTIMATE DECISION-MAKER. YOU WOULD MAKE THE DECISION, DO WE WANT TO PUT THIS RECOMMENDATION FROM THE BOARD TO THE VOTERS? >> OKAY, SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST IS THAT BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING,EACH ONE OF US THINK ABOUT THAT, ABOUT THE PROCEDURE AND HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BOARD FORMED, THE COMMITTEE FORMED FOR THE REVIEW.EACH ONE OF US THINK ABOUT ONE PERSON WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THAT BOARD, AND THEN, IF WE COULD HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA, I THINK IT COULD BE A RELATIVELY SHORT DISCUSSION ITEM AT OUR NEXT MEETING, AND WE COULD COME UP WITH HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HANDLED, AND THAT I BELIEVE THAT SHE WOULD TAKE THE LEAD IN GETTING-- KICKING IT OFF, RIGHT? >> YES, MA'AM.I HAVE SOME INFORMATION I WILL SEND OUT TO ALL OF COUNCIL,AS FAR AS ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS, >> WONDERFUL.MARLENE. DIFFERENT MODELS. >> WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS, NOT TO PUT OUT A CALL FOR PEOPLE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THAT COMMISSION? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT IS WHAT I SAID, BUT THAT IS A GOOD POINT. I GUESS THATWOULD PROBABLY BE THE CASE, BUT I THINK WHAT I SAID WAS,WE ALL THINK ABOUT HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT HANDLED, AND THEN WE COULD COME BACK AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT OUR CITY CLERKHAS SUGGESTED IS, THERE ARE COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS AND MODELS WE COULD DO IT.IF SHE IS GOING TO GIVE US THAT INFORMATION, WE CAN EACH DIGEST IT, THINK ABOUT IT, COME BACK, AND IT WILL BE A RELATIVELY BRIEF DISCUSSION. WE WILL DECIDE ON WHAT THE MODEL IS, AND IN THAT CASE, MAYBE WE WON'T DECIDE ON WHO WE WANT TO SELECT RIGHT THEN, BUT RATHER, THE PROCESS. IS THAT CLEAR? >> YES.I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD. I THOUGHT YOU SAID WE SHOULD COME BACK WITH SOMEBODY-- >> I MAYBE DID SAY THAT.IT HELPED THAT YOU JUMPED IN AND SAID, WAIT A SECOND. I APPRECIATE IT. >> I WAS JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. >> JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT I HAVE SEEN OVER THE APPOINTMENTS BY YEARS HAVE BEEN INDIVIDUAL THE COMMISSION OR COUNCIL.SO, EACH ONE -- THOSE OF THE ONES WE HAVE SEEN. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT THAT WAY, BUT IT IS FREQUENTLY DONE THAT WAY, BECAUSE THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT IS THATTHE PERSON, TO SOME EXTENT, IS ADVOCATING YOUR POSITION WHEN YOU APPOINT THEM. IF YOUR CONCERN IS,I DON'T KNOW, AMOUNTS THATYOU ARE GOING TO ALLOW FOR THE CITY MANAGERTO BE ABLE TO PAY OUT, THESE ARE THE CONCERNS. THESE INDIVIDUALS SIT ON THIS BOARDAND ARE FOLLOWING YOUR PHILOSOPHY. THAT IS JUST THE WAY I HAVE SEEN IT. IT'S NOT THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT, BUT THAT IS, GENERALLY, HOW WE SEE IT. >> THAT IS HOW WE HAVE DONE AT THE LAST TWO TIMES. >> YES. >> MAY I SPEAK? >> I AM IN AGREEMENT BY HAVING COUNCIL MEMBER APPOINT SOMEONE, EACH BUT I WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW BIG OF A POOL THERE WAS OF INTEREST.THANK YOU. >> OKAY, SO COULD WE ADVERTISE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THIS, AND CREATE AN APPLICATION, ANDSEE WHAT KIND OF POOL WE GETIN THE NEAR FUTURE, QUICKLY? >> WHEN YOU SAY ADVERTISE,DO YOU WANT ME TO ADVERTISE IN WEBSITE? THE GABBA OR JUST ON OUR >> I WOULD THINK ON THE WEBSITE, AND AN E BLAST.ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? >> ONE OTHER ITEM YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IS, MEMBERS OF BOARDS CAN SIT ON THIS. IT IS NOT AN OFFICEHOLDER SITUATION. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, IF YOU ALSO SERVE ON THE CHARTER HAVE AN APPOINTEE, THEY CAN REVIEW COMMITTEE. THESE ARE NOT DUAL OFFICEHOLDERS. >> ALL RIGHT.OH, MY SCREEN WENT BLACK.OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ALONG HERE, TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE. >> CONSENT AGENDA.ITEM5.A., CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE CITY COUNCIL ITEM TRANSIT THE, RESOLUTION MEETING HELD APRIL 1st, 2025. NUMBER 2025-30, RESOLUTION APPOINTING MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND PROVIDING FOR TERM OF APPOINTMENTS. ITEM 5.C., RESOLUTION NUMBER APPOINTING MEMBERS TO SERVE 2025-31, RESOLUTION ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND PROVIDING BOARD, LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY, FOR TERM OF APPOINTMENTS. >> A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> OKAY, WE HAVE A >> I WILL SECOND THAT. MOTION AND A SECOND.ARE WE >>AYE. ALL IN FAVOR? >> A CONSENT AGENDA PASSES. ALL RIGHT.DOES ANYONE NEED TO TAKE A BREAK RIGHT NOW?I KNOW IT IS GOING TO BE A LONG MEETING? WHERE ARE WE AT?EVERYBODY OKAY? OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO PROCEED. MOVING TO OUR RESOLUTIONS. >> ITEM 7.A., RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-32, A RULES AND POLICIES FOR THE ESTABLISHING REASONABLE CITY COUNCIL, AND FOR COMMENT AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS. >> OH, NEVERMIND.DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> I MOVE THAT WEACCEPT 2025-32. >> OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT. DISCUSSION? >> WHEN I SPOKE AT THE LAST MEETING, I SPOKE ABOUTK, BETWEEN EIGHT AND NINE, FOR RETURNING TO COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS.OKAY, I BETTER NOT FOLLOW MY NOTES. BASICALLY, WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR IS THATAFTER IT GOES TO PUBLIC COMMENT,THAT IT THEN RETURNS TO COUNCIL FOR A FINAL QUESTION AND COUNCIL COMMENT PERIOD, AND THEN VOTE,AND I DID NOT SEE THAT IN THIS, AND PERHAPS, I AM NOT READING THAT PROPERLY. >> PLEASE, I DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST SAID. >> LET ME SEE IF I CAN --IT IS NOT IN THERE.I NEED TO GET TO THE RIGHT ONE.THE WAY THAT I AM READING THIS, AND PERHAPS, I AM MISUNDERSTANDING, IS THATWE GET OUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.WE HAVE OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT IT >> WHERE ARE WE? -- >> AGENDA ITEM.THEN, IT GOES TO PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THEN, THE WAY I WAS READING THIS WAS THAT , THEN, WE HAD TO VOTE ON IT. WHAT I HAVE ONE LAST CHANCE WAS HOPING FOR, IS THAT WE WOULD COMMENT, AND THEN VOTE ON IT. QUESTIONS FOLLOWING PUBLIC FOR ANY FINAL AM I MISREADING SOMETHING? >> I GUESS I MISSED THAT ONE. I DID CONFIRM THE ITEMS. >> NO, I DID NOT INTERPRET OUR >> I DID CONVERSATION THAT WAY. NOT EITHER. I APOLOGIZE. >> I DON'T SEE WHERE THAT IS. >> SHE IS SPEAKING ON ITEM K,ON THE ADOPTION OF ORDINANCES,NOT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, AND IN CONSIDERATION OF AGENDA ITEMS.I BELIEVE SHE WANTS TO DO COUNCIL DEBATE, OPENPUBLIC HEARING, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN ANOTHER COUNCIL DEBATE? IS >> WELL,COUNCIL COMMENTS THAT CORRECT? FOLLOWING PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND THEN VOTE. >> I WOULD LEAN TOWARD NOT DOING THAT, AND THE REASON BEING, I DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY BEFORE I VOTE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A DEBATE BACK AND FORTHWITHOUR RESIDENTS. OKAY?I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY, AND THEN THEY HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO THEY CAN DO THEIR BEST TO CHANGE OUR THOUGHT PROCESS, AND THAT IT IS TIME FOR US TO VOTE. I WOULD NOT FEEL THE NEED TO REBUTTAL BUT THEY MAY HAVE SAID. THAT IS ME. I AM ONE OF FIVE. >> I WAS NOT SUGGESTING REBUTTAL. AFTER HEARING THEM, WE MIGHT HAVE AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION FOR >> OKAY.SPEAKING ORDER. EACH OTHER. >> MAYOR LOVE, I DO AGREE WITH YOUR POINT THAT IT COULD TURN INTO TOO AND I AGREE WITH THE MUCH OF A CYCLE OF CONVERSATION, CURRENT WAY THAT IT IS INTERPRETED ON THIS. >> THE WAY IT HAS BEEN WRITTEN? >> YEAH, AND NOT TO ADD ANOTHER PLACE FOR COMMENT. >> THAT IS HOW I READ IT ALSO. >> YEAH, I WOULD GO WITH MORE COMMENT, BUT I AM NOT STRONG ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. >> ALL RIGHT, BEING THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE AT A 3-2,I THINK WE WILL LEAVE IT THE WAY >> YES, MA'AM. IT WAS WRITTEN. >> OKAY.PUBLIC COMMENT.WERE YOU GUYS DISCUSSING YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT WAS THERE? >> I THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD GET THROUGH ALL OF THE RESOLUTION BEFORE--AND, EVERYBODY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE WE >> THAT IS WHAT I AM THINKING, >> YES, MA'AM. THAT NOT RIGHT? TOOK PUBLIC COMMENT. IS AND RIGHT NOW, COUNCILMEMBER SHAW HAS THE FLOOR.IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU >>NO, THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN, WANT TO ADDRESS? BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN IT WORK EFFECTIVELY, BUT I WILL DEFER TO THE MAJORITY. >> NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM ME. >> NO COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM ME. >> NOW, I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THIS.I GUESS I AM KIND OF TALKING TO THE PUBLIC. THESE ARE WHAT I SEE AS THE MAJOR CHANGESTHAT WE DECIDED TO DO WHILE WE WERE UP HERE.WE ARE GOING TO TAKE AND MOVE -- AND WE CANNOT DO IT TONIGHT, BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT VOTED ON IT.WE ARE GOING TO TAKE AND MOVE OUR PUBLIC COMMENT UP ON THE AGENDA, SO THAT IN THE FUTURE, IT WILL BE AFTER THE STAFF HAS ALL GIVEN THEIR REPORTS.THAT MEANS THAT THE AUDIENCE IS STILL HERE, AND IF OUR CITY MANAGER DID NOT ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT YOU ASKED,BUT WE KNOW A SIMPLE ANSWER TO IT,WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS IT RIGHT THEN AND THERE FOR YOU, AND ALSO, THE COMMENTS THAT WE WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL,YOU WILL STILL BE HERE, SO WE ARE MOVING THE PUBLIC COMMENT UP AFTER TONIGHT'S MEETING.IT WILL BE MUCH EARLIER IN THE MEETING, ALL RIGHT?WE ARE GIVING THE COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY AT THAT TIME TO ADDRESSMEETINGS THEY HAVE BEEN AT, THEIR THOUGHTS ON ANYTHING THEY WANT TO.THEY CAN ASK CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF THE CITY MANAGERON THINGS HE DID NOT ADDRESS DURING THE COURSE OF THE NIGHT, AND WE ARE EXPANDING THAT TO 10 MINUTES.WE ARE, AS PART OF THIS RESOLUTION, WE ARE SAYING THAT WE ARE EXPECTING REPORTS TO BE GIVEN OF ALL COUNCILMEMBERSIF THEY HAVE ATTENDED ANY OUTSIDE MEETINGS. THEY ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND GIVE REPORTS,AND WE ARE EXPECTING THAT AND WE ARE ABSOLUTELYREQUIRING REPORTS ON ANY MEETINGSTHAT THE COUNCIL HAS ATTENDED, WHERE THE CITY HAS SPENT ONEPENNY TO GET US THERE.THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT. OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE REPORTS, AND WE ALSO DECIDED THAT WE ARE GOING TO NAME OUR CITY ATTORNEY AS THE PARLIAMENTARIAN, WHICH IS A CHANGE, AND LAST, BUT NOT LEAST,IT IS A CHANGE WHERE THE COUNCILCAN NOW ADDRESS PUBLIC COMMENT DURING COUNCIL COMMENTS,WHICH WAS NOT THE WAY THINGS WERE DONE IN THE PAST, AND THE LAST THING IS THATAT NO POINT DID WE SAY THERE WOULD NO LONGER BE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR DISCUSSION ITEMS.THAT RUMOR NEEDS TO BE DISPELLED. WE DID NOT SAY THAT. WE DID NOT DO THAT, AND THAT IS NOT ONE OF OUR CHANGES.THAT IS WHERE WE ARE, SO I THINK WE HAVE ALL HAD A CHANCE >> CAN I SAY ONE OTHER THING? TO SPEAK. BECAUSE WE DO NOT SEE IT ONLINE , THERE IS A SECTIONTHAT IS ON THE PRINTED AGENDA, AND DO YOU HAVE THAT? >> I DO. >> DAVID BROUGHT THIS UP AND HE SHOWED IT TO ME THE OTHER DAY, AND SO,THERE IS WORDING AT THE END, ABOUT AFTER ADJOURNMENT.IS THAT WORDING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ON THERE? IS IT A STATE LAW OR SOMETHING? >> IT IS OUR DISCLAIMER, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT I DO NOT DO VERBATIM MINUTES, IF YOU NEED ANYTHING FOR A COURT HEARING.MY MINUTES ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE VERBATIM, AND YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE. IT IS OUR DISCLOSURE. >> THAT IS A NORMAL STATEMENT THAT IS PUT ON THERE TO ADVISE PEOPLE. OCCASIONALLY, YOU WILL HAVE A SITUATIONWHERE THERE IS A COURT REPORTER HERE BECAUSE THERE IS TO HAVE VERBATIM, IN CASE THEY AN ISSUE, THAT SOMEBODY MAY WANT WANT TO CHALLENGE SOMETHING. NORMALLY, WE SEE IT MORE IN A SITUATION, LIKE A VARIANCE TYPE , SOMETHING LIKE THAT.ALTHOUGH, WE HARDLY EVER SEE IT ANYMORE, BECAUSEPEOPLE JUST AREN'T CHALLENGING MOST THINGS. BUT, IT PUTS THEM ON NOTICE THAT THEY CAN'T NECESSARILY RELY ON OUR MINUTES TO SHOW VERBATIM. >> WE RECENTLY DID HAVE THIS IN ANOTHER BOARD MEETING, WHERE A COURT REPORTER WAS THERE FOR THIS REVIEW. >> OKAY. >> ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE I ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS RESOLUTION?ALL PUBLIC COMMENT ON RESOLUTION-- RIGHT, WHATEVER NUMBER IT WAS -- 2025-32. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? MS. TOVAR? >> THANKS, VERY MUCH.I'M JUST A LITTLE HUMOREDBY THE FACT THAT LAST WEEK, YOU GAVE YOURSELF EACH10 MINUTES TO TALK, AND I'M STILL NOT QUITE UNDERSTANDING, ARE WE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON EACH RESOLUTION,OR ALL THE RESOLUTIONS IN ONE GROUP? ANYWAYS, YOU GAVE YOURSELVES 10 MINUTES TO TALK, BUT WE STILL ONLY GET THREE OR MAYBE LESS. MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUTALL EIGHT OF THESE RESOLUTIONS AT ONE TIME OR INDIVIDUALLY? AND, ALSO, MAYOR LOVE, YOU MIGHT RECALL, YOU AND I, YEARS AGO, WE PROVIDED SOME INPUTAS TO HOW THE BACK-AND-FORTH SHOULD GO, AND WHAT WAS DECIDED AT THAT TIME, AND TO YOUR POINT COUNCILMEMBER SHAW, IT IS NOT IN THE RULES,BUT IT WAS FOLLOWED BY THE PREVIOUS MAYOR, BASED UPON INFORMATION THE CURRENT MAYOR AND I GAVE, AND THAT IS, THAT AFTERMEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE SPOKEN, THAT YES,THE COUNCILMEMBERS WOULD HAVE ONE LAST TIME, AND YOU GO AROUND THE TABLE ONE LAST TIME TO MAKE A COMMENT.I RECALL VIVIDLY THAT THE FORMER MAYOR EMPLOYED THAT FOR A LONG TIME. JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON RESOLUTION 2025-32? ALL RIGHT. >> MAYOR, DO YOU WANT TO PROVIDE JUST A CLARIFICATION?IT IS CLEAR THAT EVERY RESOLUTION ISTAKEN ON INDIVIDUALLY, JUST LIKE EVERY ORDINANCE AND PUBLIC COMMENT. IT IS AVAILABLE.I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO HAVE A MISCONCEPTION AS TO WHAT YOU >> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.I PROVIDED. DID NOT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT ONE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ALL EIGHT RESOLUTIONS, SO I DID NOT THINK I HAD TO CLARIFY THAT. >> MAYOR, IT CAN BE YOUR PURVIEW, IF UNDER ADISCUSSION ITEM, SOMETHING GERMANE TO CITY COUNCIL,YOU CAN DETERMINE IF YOU WANT TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTUNDER DISCUSSION ITEMS. THAT IS UNDER YOUR PURVIEW AS THE MAYOR. >> THANK YOU. I UNDERSTOOD THAT. I CALLED THE VOTE. >> COUNCILMEMBER SHAW. >> YES. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER JACKSON. >> COUNCILMEMBER EARLEY. >> YES. >> YES. >> MAYOR LOVE? >> DO I HAVE TO SAY, THE RESOLUTION PASSES? THE RESOLUTION PASSES. MOVING ON. >> ITEM7.B., RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-33,A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH TOM'S SOD FOR THE HOYT FIELD SOD >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. REPLACEMENT. COUNCIL COMMENTS? >> WE USUALLY HAVE THE CITY MANAGER GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW. >> I'M SO SORRY. CITY MANAGER. >> THAT'S FINE. IT IS THE REPLACEMENT PROJECT FOR THE SOD AT HOYT FIELD. MR. NICHOLS IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. THIS IS PART OF OUR FEMA STORM RECOVERY RESTORATION. >> OKAY. COUNCIL COMMENTS. >> OKAY, I DO HAVE KIND OF AN UNUSUAL QUESTION. I AM INTERESTED INA VARIETY OF SOD WE USE THERE, OUT OF CURIOSITY. >> THE SOD WILL BE GOING BACK TO WHAT WE HAD,CELEBRATIONSOD, A REALLY GOOD SOD FOR BALL FIELDS. >> OKAY, IS THERE A WARRANTY ON THIS ONCE IT IS LAID? >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.WE HAVE NEVER HAD ANY TROUBLE WITH TOM'S SOD, BUT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW LONG THAT WARRANTY WOULD BE.IT COMES IN LARGE ROLES, AND IT IS $100,000 WORTH OF SOD. I HAVE NEVER HAD ANY TROUBLE WITH THEM, BUT I DON'T KNOW. I CAN FIND OUT. >> I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. I HAVE WORKED WITH TOM'S SOD, BUT THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO.DO WE HAVE A TIMEFRAME AS TO WHEN IT IS TO BE LAID? >> IF IT IS APPROVED THIS EVENING, WE HAVE TENTATIVE INSTALLATION SCHEDULED FOR MAY 5th.IT WILL PROBABLY BE A MONTH TO LET IT TAKE BEFORE WE LET FOLKS BACK ON IT SOMETIME IN JUNE. >> THIS IS ALWAYS A QUESTION THAT I ASK ABOUT CONTRACTS AND CONTRACTORS. INCLUDE WORKERS COMP? DOES THE INSURANCE >> IT DOES. ACTUALLY, WE GOT THREE QUOTES, BUT TO DOUBLE UP ON THIS,THEY ALSO HAVE AN ACTIVE CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF CLEARWATER.I ASKED STAFF TO GO AND GET ME THREE QUOTES, TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THE BETTER DEAL. >> WHEN THERE ARE QUOTES OR THAT THOSE ARE INCLUDEDAS AN CONTRACTS, I AM REQUESTING ADDITIONAL ATTACHMENT TO THE DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED, AND THEN, MAYBE I WON'T HAVE TO ASK YOU SO MANY QUESTIONS. >> ABSOLUTELY. THAT IS EASY TO DO. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> HOW FLOOD RESISTANT IS IT? >> NO QUESTIONS. I'M ASSUMING THAT FAR AWAY, WE WOULD NOT NEED IT TO BE TOO SALT RESISTANT. >> NO, WE HAVE NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES, EVEN WITH THE RECENT --IF I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT PUTTING DEBRIS ON IT, IT WOULD'VE BEEN FINE. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHY IT WAS REPLACED TO THIS TIME, BUT IN GENERAL, IT COULD EVEN BE STORM WATER BACKUP. >> IF IT WAS A SALT WATER BACKUP ON THE SOD, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH IT, BUT WE WATER IT. >> JUST REGULAR WATER, SITTING FOR A FEW DAYS, WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM? >> I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM. >> IT HAS BEEN THERE BEFORE. >> MY ONLY QUESTION IS, IN, SAY THE LAST 10 OR 20 YEARS,HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE HAD TO READ SOD IT? I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE ALL OF THAT SPACE TO PUT THE DEBRIS. NOT EVERYBODY WAS SO LUCKY. >> WE HAVE NEVER HAD TO READ SOD THE OUTFIELD IN THE LAST 18 YEARS. IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, WE HAVE NOT READ SOD -- RECITED THE OUTFIELD.WE HAVE REPLACEDTHE INFIELD, BECAUSE IT'S HIGH-GRADE BERMUDA. >> WE LOOK AT THIS AS THE COST OF BEING ABLE TO STORE OUR OWN DEBRIS, INSTEAD OF RENTING SPACE TO HANDLE THAT DEBRIS? >> CORRECT, WE HAD NO PLACE. TRUST ME, WE LOOKED. WE EXPECTED THE COUNTY TO OFFER A SPACE, AND THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.WE WENT TO THE CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG AND THEY HAD THEIR OWN PROBLEMS TO DEAL WITH, AND WE RAN OUT OF OPTIONS, SO THE DECISION WE MADE WAS TO KEEP THE CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS AT THE 49th STREET FACILITY.THEN, WE HAVE ALL OF THE VEGETATIVE DEBRIS, THAT WAS THE ONLY LARGE AREA.I'VE GOT SOME PHOTOS I CAN SHARE WITH YOU LATER WHEN WE GO OVER PROJECT UPDATES,THAT SHOWS YOU HOW MUCH DEBRIS WE HAD OUT THERE, AND NO OTHER PLACE TO PUT IT. YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT ON-SITE, TO REDUCE IT BEFORE YOU SEND IT OFF, SO THEY HAD TO GRIND EVERY STICK THAT WAS OUT THERE. >> I LIVE RIGHT OVER THERE, SO I WAS WATCHING THE PROCESS. >> IT WAS A PROCESS. I HAD NEVER BEEN THROUGH IT BEFORE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS RESOLUTION? >> ARE WE SKIPPING OVER THE FIRST YEAR RESOLUTIONS? 2025-30 AND 2025-31? >> THAT WAS IN THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HANDLED THAT ALREADY. >> ALL RIGHT, I AM SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT. >> COUNCILMEMBER SHAW. I WILL CALL THE ROLL. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER JACKSON. >> YES. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER THANOS. >> THE RESOLUTION PASSES. >> ITEM7.C., RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-34,A CITY MANAGER TO ISSUE PAYMENT RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE TO PHILLIP AND JORDON, INC. FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES. VEGETATIVE DEBRIS REMOVAL >> SECOND PIT >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. COUNCIL COMMENTS? CITY MANAGER? I AM GOING TO WRITE IT IN RED. >> MAYOR, THIS IS MR. NICHOLS.I CAN ADDRESS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. THIS IS INCREASING THE AMOUNT COUNCIL HAD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED THE RELATED TO DEBRIS REMOVAL. >> AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS, WE ESTIMATED HOW MUCH DEBRIS WE WOULD HAVE.I WOULD NOT SAY A SHOT IN THE DARK, BUT WE HAD CONTRACTORS HELP US ESTIMATE. WE HAD ONE NONPERFORMING AS HE SHOULD, SO CONTRACTOR THAT WAS WE BROUGHT IN ANOTHER ONE. WHAT YOU WILL SEE HERE,OUR FIRST, NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER WITH SOUTHERN DEBRIS IS GOING TO BE LESS, BUT IT INCREASED PHILLIP AND JORDON. YOU HAD NOT TO EXCEED, BUT WE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED A 700,000, ARE AT 1.2 MILLION.THE OTHER ONE WILL NOT BE ANYWHERE NEAR 700, PROBABLY CLOSER TO 300.WE DID HAVE TWO DEBRIS CONTRACTORS. >> OKAY.ARE ALL THE REST PAID NOW, EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE? >>NO, WE ARE STILL GETTING BILLS IN FROM SOUTHERN DISASTER RECOVERY. OUR MONITORING FIRM HAS TO DOCUMENT, CONFIRM EVERYTHING THAT WAS PICKED IT UP, EVERYTHING BROUGHT TO HOYT FIELD AND REDUCED AND HAULED OFF, AND THEY ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. THIS WILL COVER PHILLIP AND JORDON. PHILLIP AND JORDON WILL BE DONE, AND I WILL STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF SMALL BILLS. I DON'T THINK I WILL NEED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH SOUTHERN DISASTER RECOVERY, BECAUSE I WILL BE UNDER THE AMOUNT THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED. >> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE NO COMMENTS. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, AND GIVE YOU A SHOUT OUT FOR HOW THE HURRICANES. QUICKLY YOU CLEANED UP AFTER >> YOU ARE WELCOME. STAFF >> I HAVE JUST ONE. AND,YOU DID GREAT. MIGHT HAVE ADDRESSED ITWHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES,BUT WHEN I WAS READING THE ATTACHMENT, I DID NOT QUITE GET AT -- I THOUGHT IT THE MATH, BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING WAS SAYING THAT WE HAVE BUILT -- BEEN BILLED$1,214,000, BUT TONIGHT WE ARE AUTHORIZING $1,250,000. >> NOT TO EXCEED, I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WAS GOING TO GET ANOTHER BILL TRICKLE IN, BUT I CONFIRMED WITH THEM THAT THIS WAS THE FINAL NUMBER.I GAVE MYSELF SOME WIGGLE ROOM, IF I HAD ANOTHER BILL COME IN. >> THAT MAKES SENSE. I WAS LOOKING AT THAT MATH. THAT SOUNDS GOOD.ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE? ON THIS RESOLUTION? I AM SEEING NONE. >> YES. >> COUNCILMEMBER SHAW? >> YES. COUNCILMEMBEREARLEY? >> COUNCILMEMBER JACKSON? >> YES. >> RESOLUTION 2025-34 PASSES. >> ITEM 7.D., RESOLUTION NUMBER 2025-35, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH ATLANTIC PIPE SERVICESTO REALIGN 217 LINEAR FEETAND 243 LINEAR FEET OFSTORM WATER 20th AVENUE SOUTH FROM PIPE THAT RUNS ALONG 52nd STREET SOUTH TO53rd STREET >> MOTION TO APPROVE. SOUTH. >> I WILL SECOND. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO >> SECOND. APPROVE 2025-35. MAYOR, THIS IS SELF-EXPLANATORY. THIS IS FOR THE STORMWATER REPAIR, AND MR. NICHOLS CAN ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS? OKAY, COUNCIL COMMENTS, >> WAS THIS RELATED TO STORM DAMAGE? >> NO, IT IS ONGOING.WE HAVE DONE MOST OF THE 20th AVENUE SEGMENT OF CLAY PIPE.WHAT HAPPENS IS, THE JOINTS WILL EVENTUALLY GO BAD,AND YOU WILL SEE A SINKHOLE, WHERE THE WATER AND THE ROAD GETS SUCKED IN. THIS IS JUST THE LAST TWO BLOBS-- BLOCKS OF THAT SEGMENT PIPE THAT HAS TO COME OUT.WE BUDGET FOR THIS ANNUALLY, SO THIS IS IN OUR GENERAL ANNUAL BUDGET. >> THE RELINING PROCESS IS REALLY FASCINATING. IN THE DOCUMENTATION, IT SAYS THEY WERE THE MOST RESPONSIVE CONTRACTOR THAT BID, AND IT WAS PIGGYBACKED.AGAIN, IF THE DOCUMENTATION CAN BE INCLUDED IN THESE THINGS, I