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Tuesday, January 16, 2024 · Government meeting record

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Approval and execution of the minutes of the November 9, 2023 meeting of the Charter Review Commission (CRC).

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  • Item A.

    Approval and execution of the minutes of the November 9, 2023 meeting of the Charter Review Commission (CRC).

    Moved by Member Eric Grimmer · Seconded by Member Rishi Bagga

    approved - A motion was made by Member Grimmer, seconded by Member Bagga, to approve the minutes of November 9, 2023. The motion carried by the following vote:
  • Item C.

    Proposed Charter Review Topic - TransitX

    Moved by Member Lee Chira · Seconded by Member Eric Grimmer

    approved - A motion was made by Vice Chair Chira, seconded by Member Grimmer, to not send the Charter topic to the transportation committee. The motion carried by the following vote:
  • Item B.

    Proposed Charter Review Topic - Elimination of Financial Impact Statements

    Moved by Member Chuck O'Neal · Seconded by Member Eugene Stoccardo

    denied - A motion was made by Member O’Neal, seconded by Member Stoccardo to remove the need of the financial impact statement and to retain the financial impact analysis. The motion failed by the following vote:

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Member Eric Grimmer

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  1. MotionItem A.

    Approval and execution of the minutes of the November 9, 2023 meeting of the Charter Review Commission (CRC). - Moved the recorded motion.

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  2. SecondItem C.

    Proposed Charter Review Topic - TransitX - Seconded the recorded motion.

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Tuesday, January 16, 2024 6:00 PM Orange County Government Orange County Administration Center 201 S Rosalind Ave. Orlando, FL 32802-1393 County Commission Chambers Charter Review Commission CRC Members: Homer Hartage, Chair Lee Chira, Vice Chair Mark Arias-Rishi Bagga-Dick Batchelor-Tom Callan- Eric R. Grimmer-Erica Jackson-Chuck O'Neal- Angel de la Portilla-Alisia Adamson Profit- Cornita A. Riley- Eugene Stoccardo-Beverly Winesburgh- Dotti Wynn Draft Meeting Minutes

January 16, 2024Charter Review Commission Draft Meeting Minutes Call to Order The meeting was called to order at 6:04 p.m. Member Dick Batchelor, Member Alisia Adamson Profit, Member Angel de la Portilla, Member Eric R. Grimmer, Member Erica Jackson, Member Homer Hartage, Member Lee Chira, Member Rishi Bagga, Member Tom Callan, Member Dotti Wynn, Member Eugene Stoccardo, Member Cornita A. Riley, Member Chuck O'Neal, and Member Beverly Winesburgh Present: 14 - Member Mark AriasAbsent: 1 - Others present: Deputy Clerk David Rooney Assistant Deputy Clerk Jennifer Lara-Klimetz CRC General Counsel Wade Vose CRC Administrative Assistant Jessica Vaupel Senior Minutes Coordinator Noelia Perez Pledge of Allegiance I. Roll Call Members Present: Member Jackson, Member de la Portilla, Member Winesburgh, Member Callan, Member Grimmer, Member Wynn, Chair Hartage, Vice Chair Chira, Member Bagga, Member O'Neal, Member Stoccardo, Member Adamson-Profit, and Member Riley. A quorum was established and the meeting was called to order. II. Chair / Vice Chair Comments CRC Chair Hartage thanked all those attending tonight's CRC meeting. He indicated there would be two CRC Meetings scheduled for both January and February 2024. CRC Chair Hartage recognized Orange County District 1 Commissioner Nicole Wilson. CRC Chair Hartage also requested General Counsel Vose go over the submission timeline for items being brought forward for consideration by the CRC Committee. Vice Chair Chira requested General Counsel Vose examine any cost disproportions of utilities provided between the residents of Orange County and the City of Orlando. General Counsel Vose announced the last meeting date the CRC would consider new topics would be February 19, 2024, however the deadline for those topics to be placed on the agenda for consideration would be February 7, 2024. III. Public Comment The following persons addressed the CRC during public comment: Chair Hartage acknowledged that Member Batchelor joined the meeting. Page 1 Printed on 2/14/2024Orange County Comptroller

January 16, 2024Charter Review Commission Draft Meeting Minutes Discussion ensued regarding the expansion of term limits, expansion of county commission districts, redistricting, the office of the Ombudsman, and the creation of an ethics committee . General Counsel Vose contributed to the discussion. CRC Chair Hartage requested General Counsel Vose announce the upcoming CRC meeting schedule. He announced the CRC meeting schedule as follows: January 16, 2024 January 30, 2024 - Agenda deadline on January 18, 2024 February 19, 2024 - Agenda deadline on February 7, 2024 February 29, 2024 - Agenda deadline on February 16, 2024 March 18, 2024 General Counsel Vose indicated the possibility of three meetings in April and one meeting in May. Furthermore, he announced the Creation of a Public Bank Committee has approved its final report and also mentioned the possibility of the Rural Boundary Committee's final report being presented at the CRC Meeting of January 30, 2024. It's to be anticipated that more committee meetings will be scheduled to allow for the completion of their final reports. General Counsel Vose reported that the CRC must complete their final report and transmit to the Supervisor of Elections by June 14, 2024. He indicated before the final report is submitted and transmitted to the Supervisor of Elections the final report will need to include the charter amendments the CRC has voted to be put on the ballot along with ballot summary and ballot language. Furthermore, ballot language included in the final report will require the preparation of the Comptroller's Financial Impact Statement and translation of ballot language in Spanish and possibly Creole . Due to the preparation involved in completing this final report, General Counsel Vose recommended not waiting until the last day for submission of the report. CRC Chair Hartage repeated the deadline for submitting new topics would be February 7, 2024, for consideration by the full CRC on February 19, 2024, however that timeline does not apply to the public. General Counsel Vose contributed to the discussion. IV. Consent Item A. CRC-24-066 Approval and execution of the minutes of the November 9, 2023 meeting of the Charter Review Commission (CRC). A motion was made by Member Grimmer, seconded by Member Bagga, to approve the minutes of November 9, 2023. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye: Member Batchelor, Member Adamson Profit, Member de la Portilla, Member Grimmer, Member Jackson, Member Hartage, Member Chira, Member Bagga, Member Callan, Member Wynn, Member Stoccardo, Member Riley, Member O'Neal, and Member Winesburgh 14 - Absent: Member Arias1 - V. Sunshine Meeting / Committee Updates Page 2 Printed on 2/14/2024Orange County Comptroller

January 16, 2024Charter Review Commission Draft Meeting Minutes A. CRC-24-067 Sunshine Meetings Held on November 20 and December 04, 2023 Between Chair Hartage & Member Callan CRC Chair Hartage acknowledged the November 20, and December 4, 2023 Sunshine Meetings with Member Callan regarding discussion of the transportation issues within Orange County. B. CRC-24-068 Transportation Committee Meeting Held on January 08, 2024 (Committee Chair Callan) Committee Chair Callan discussed language considered at the transportation committee. The language has been forwarded to staff for review and distribution. The transportation committee will meet again on January 31, 2024 at 11:00 a.m. CRC Chair Hartage contributed to the discussion. C. CRC-24-069 Sustainable Growth & Charter Clean Up Committee Meetings Held on November 29 and December 18, 2023 (Committee Chair Grimmer) Committee Chair Grimmer discussed the Sustainable Growth and Charter Clean Up Committee that met on November 29, 2023. The committee discussed draft language regarding the rural boundary issues. The committee is considering implementing rural boundaries based on the current comprehensive plan urban service area. The Committee will meet again on January 17, 2024, to review the draft charter amendment language and draft report. At the December 18, 2023 committee meeting, the members discussed the Affordable Housing Trust Fund. The committee reviewed the draft language for an Affordable Housing Trust Fund charter amendment in order to solidify the language of the affordable housing trust fund program already established. D. CRC-24-070 Governmental Structure Committee Meetings Held on November 29, 2023 and January 10, 2024 (Committee Chair de la Portilla) Committee Chair de la Portilla discussed the Governmental Structure Committee Meetings held on November 29, 2023, and January 10, 2024. County Mayor Demings spoke at the committee meeting of November 29, 2023, and discussed term limits, expansion of the county, and the separation of powers. At the committee meeting of January 10, 2024, the members set forth a timeline for the preparation and submission of the committee’s final report. Committee Chair de la Portilla indicated their next committee meeting will be on February 7, 2024, with the committee voting on two issues, the expansion of county commission and separation of powers. The results of that committee meeting will be brought forth to the full CRC on February 19, 2024. Furthermore, Committee Chair de la Portilla announced at a future committee meeting they will be considering the role of the County Attorney's office, term limits, and the election issue proposed by Member O'Neal regarding amending Section 605 - Nonpartisan elections. E. CRC-24-071 Creation of a Public Bank Committee Meetings Held on December 04, 2023 and January 08, 2024 (Committee Chair Adamson Profit) Committee Chair Adamson Profit discussed the Creation of a Public Bank final committee meeting held on January 08, 2024. The committee will recommend there be no changes to the charter regarding the creation of a public bank. The committee will bring forth their final report at the next CRC Meeting. CRC Chair Hartage thanked the committee members for their hard work. Page 3 Printed on 2/14/2024Orange County Comptroller

January 16, 2024Charter Review Commission Draft Meeting Minutes F. CRC-24-072 Initiative Petitions Committee Meeting Held on December 11, 2023 (Committee Chair Wynn) Committee Chair Wynn discussed the Initiative Petitions Committee meeting held on December 11, 2023. The committee discussed Supervisor of Election Cowles’ recommendation concerning requirements for paid circulator affidavits consistent with Sec. 100.371(5)(a), Florida Statutes and further discussed the Division of Elections 2022 determination that Broward County Charter’s financial impact statement ballot placement requirement is preempted by Section 97.0115, Florida Statutes. The committee discussed removing the financial impact statement from Section 603 of the Charter. Discussion ensued regarding the financial impact statement. General Counsel Vose contributed to the discussion and indicated the ways in which the Charter can be amended . He also indicated there are two financial impact statements clauses within the Charter for CRC and the initiative petitions process. The CRC requirement allows for the Comptroller or another office to prepare a financial impact statement for any Charter amendments, with the financial impact statement included in the final report along with the summary of the financial impact statement being placed within the seventy five word ballot question. However, when a charter amendment is added through the initiative petitions process only the Comptroller can prepare the financial impact analysis and statement. The financial impact statement for initiative petitions is a separate statement of up to seventy five (75) words and that language would go on the ballot right after the ballot question. General Counsel Vose indicated the Division of Elections looked at a similar provision with Broward County. Discussion ensued. VI. Discussion Items A. CRC-24-073 Transportation Committee Membership CRC Chair Hartage indicated Member Winesburgh requested to join the Transportation Committee. Member Winesburgh rescinded her request to join the committee. B. CRC-24-074 Proposed Charter Review Topic - Elimination of Financial Impact Statements Member O'Neal discussed the elimination of the financial impact statement. He indicated the committee heard a presentation by Orange County Assistant Comptroller, Chris Dawkins regarding how the financial impact statement is created. Furthermore, Member O'Neal explained the financial impact statement is also included in the seventy five (75) word ballot summary for the charter amendment. The committee feels due to how the financial impact statement is determined along with the length of the statement it would detract from the number of words needed to explain the meaning of the charter amendment in the ballot summary. Member O'Neal indicated the Initiative Petitions Committee requests that the full CRC consider the elimination of financial impact statements from charter amendments. Discussion ensued. General Counsel Vose contributed to the discussion and restated the Comptroller or another agency prepares the financial impact estimate, a summary of the financial impact statement is included with the seventy five (75) word ballot language of the charter amendment. Discussion ensued. General Counsel Vose stated it would be legal to propose a charter amendment to the voters to remove the requirements of the financial impact statement. He referenced a similar situation for the financial impact statement requirement for the initiative petitions process for Broward County and Page 4 Printed on 2/14/2024Orange County Comptroller

January 16, 2024Charter Review Commission Draft Meeting Minutes how the Division of Elections issued a determination that adding an additional seventy five (75) word ballot summary would be contrary to the Florida Election code and that requirement would be preempted. Discussion ensued regarding the removal of the financial impact statements. A motion was made by Member O'Neal, seconded by Member Stoccardo to move to strike the need of the financial impact statement from the Charter but retain the need and the requirement for a financial impact anaylsis. No vote taken. Discussion ensued. A motion was made by Member Callan, seconded by Member Winesburgh to call the question to end discussion. No vote taken. Discussion ensued regarding the call for question and the financial impact anaylsis. A motion was made by Member Callan, seconded by Member Winesburgh to call the question to end discussion. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye: 14 - Member Batchelor, Member Jackson, Member de la Portilla, Member Winesburgh, Member Callan, Member Grimmer, Member Wynn, Member Hartage, Member O’Neal, Member Adamson Profit, and Member Winesburgh Nay: 4 - Member Chira, Member Bagga, Member Stoccardo, and Member Riley Absent: 1 - Member Arias A motion was made by Member O’Neal, seconded by Member Stoccardo to remove the need of the financial impact statement and to retain the financial impact analysis. The motion failed by the following vote: Aye: Member Adamson Profit, Member Jackson, Member Stoccardo, and Member O'Neal 4 - Nay: Member Batchelor, Member de la Portilla, Member Grimmer, Member Hartage, Member Chira, Member Bagga, Member Callan, Member Wynn, Member Riley, and Member Winesburgh 10 - Absent: Member Arias1 - C. CRC-24-075 Proposed Charter Review Topic - TransitX Citizen David Finnegan presented a proposed Charter topic -TransitX. Mr. Finnegan provided a brief overview of the project which consists of overhead solar powered flying pods of transit which would offer a quiet, clean, and efficient mass transit system, developed by TransitX. He explained the benefits of this transit system as follows: - Solar powered - Privately funded - no cost to County - Provides relief to congested roadways Discussion ensued regarding if this charter topic should be considered by a committee. Page 5 Printed on 2/14/2024Orange County Comptroller

January 16, 2024Charter Review Commission Draft Meeting Minutes A motion was made by Vice Chair Chira, seconded by Member Grimmer to not send the proposed charter topic to committee. No vote taken. Discussion ensued. Vice Chair Chira called the question to end discussion, seconded by Chair Hartage. No vote taken. Discussion ensued. A motion was made by Vice Chair Chira, seconded by Member Grimmer, to not send the Charter topic to the transportation committee. The motion carried by the following vote: Aye: Member Batchelor, Member Adamson Profit, Member de la Portilla, Member Grimmer, Member Jackson, Member Hartage, Member Chira, Member Bagga, Member Wynn, Member Stoccardo, Member Riley, Member O'Neal, and Member Winesburgh 13 - Absent: Member Arias, and Member Callan2 - VII. Member Comments CRC Chair Hartage requested CRC staff forward the CRC meeting schedule to all CRC members. He also commented on being in favor of doing something about the transportation issue in Orange County. However, he indicated the state is in charge of the transportation and not Orange County. He mentioned it would be difficult to create a policy but is interested to see what comes out of the Transportation Committee. Member Wynn recommended the Transportation Committee contact the U.S. Department of Transportation. Member Batchelor would like staff to present to the full CRC the community outreach efforts for notifying the public about those items being placed on the ballot. A motion was made by Member O'Neal, seconded by Member Bagga to assign the creation of the position of Ombudsmen to the Governmental Structure Committee for review and possible recommendation. No vote taken. Discussion ensued regarding staff providing the CRC any correspondence regarding the past history and structure of the Ombudsman Office in Orange County. Vice Chair Chira has requested a financial statement in terms of cost with the creation of the position of the Ombudsmen. General Counsel Vose contributed to the discussion. He recommended placing this topic on the upcoming CRC Agenda for the next CRC Meeting. Based upon CRC discussion, Member O'Neal and Member Bagga withdrew the motion to assign the creation of the position of Ombudsman to the Governmental Structure Committee for review and possible recommendation. Member O'Neal requested Nelson Betancourt submit a report, to be placed as part of the upcoming CRC Agenda topic. General Counsel Vose contributed to discussion. Discussion ensued regarding the Ombudsman Office. Page 6 Printed on 2/14/2024Orange County Comptroller

January 16, 2024Charter Review Commission Draft Meeting Minutes Vice Chair Chira asked General Counsel Vose about the financial disclosure laws that were recently passed. He indicated these laws apply to the elected officials. General Counsel Vose contributed to the discussion and he indicated that although the law recently change and elected officials are required to file, the CRC members are not required to do so. CRC Administrative Assistant Jessica Vaupel announced the next CRC meeting is scheduled for January 30, 2024, in the County Chambers. Member Stoccardo asked about the write-in candidates. Member de la Portilla indicated that topic is being reviewed by the Government Structure Committee. CRC Chair Hartage encouraged the committee chairs to begin wrapping up the committees with the objective of completing their final reports. A motion was made by Chair Hartage, seconded by Vice Chair Chira, to adjourn the meeting . The motion carried by the following vote: Aye: 13 - Member Batchelor, Member Adamson Profit, Member de la Portilla, Member Grimmer, Member Jackson, Member Hartage, Member Chira, Member Bagga, Member Wynn, Member Stoccardo, Member Riley, Member O'Neal, and Member Winesburgh Absent: 2 - Member Arias and Member Callan There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 8:01 p.m. _____________________________ Homer Hartage, Chair 2024 Charter Review Commission Page 7 Printed on 2/14/2024Orange County Comptroller

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  • Agenda item A.Other meeting itemsapproved - A motion was made by Member Grimmer, seconded by Member Bagga, to approve the minutes of November 9, 2023. The motion carried by the following vote:

    Approval and execution of the minutes of the November 9, 2023 meeting of the Charter Review Commission (CRC).

  • Agenda item B.Budget and financedenied - A motion was made by Member O’Neal, seconded by Member Stoccardo to remove the need of the financial impact statement and to retain the financial impact analysis. The motion failed by the following vote:

    Proposed Charter Review Topic - Elimination of Financial Impact Statements

  • Agenda item C.Other meeting itemsapproved - A motion was made by Vice Chair Chira, seconded by Member Grimmer, to not send the Charter topic to the transportation committee. The motion carried by the following vote:

    Proposed Charter Review Topic - TransitX

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