Land Use & Zoning Committee

to there. >> Renee, a >> good evening. It is. >> 5 o'clock. SEPTEMBER. First, 5 o'clock welcome to the Land use and Zoning Committee. We're gonna go ahead and start with introductions to the left. COUNCILMAN Reggie Gaffney join District 8. Good afternoon, everyone. >> Testing test. There we go. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, Roquan Johnson District 14, the West side. The best side. Good evening. Rory Diamond District. 13. They're okay. Technology district 5. Kevin Carrico Councilmember District 4. Randi White District Parents, Harvey Office of General Counsel. >> Susan Kelly Planning Department on the planning department, Casey Cox planning department. >> All right. Thank you, everyone for your actions with that. We're going to go ahead because we're Johnson during the q you're recognized. >> Thank you so much for recognizing me, MISTER Chair and its want to start the I've gotten about 150 to 200 e-mails. So this is not for obviously this group, this body, but anybody who MAY be here in the audience or who MAY be watching. There has been some talk about the Niesha elementary School in the adjacent district. It's actually not in district 14. That's in district 7. However, it used to be in district 14 during the last council ration Nevertheless in the area. Nevertheless, that school the decisions that are made, I have to say this again, the decisions that are made are made by the Duval County School board. There's nothing that we can do. There's only one thing that the council can do. And that's a part of the joint Planning Committee. And that's only for new schools going in new areas that committee has not met and has nothing to do with entry school, I sympathize with you try to return as many e-mails as possible. Must talk to the school board member and the school board. If you have issues. Want to put that on the record. Thank you, right. And I hope the school board also sends out a message of because want people to make sure they're going to the right, you know, place for their concerns. >> Yes, All right. So committee members, we're going go to Page 13 item number. 25, we're going to take up first. Item number 20 or 25. 26 5.90 Let's open the public hearing through the staff report on this or now. No staff report because it's no staff report. Okay. Are there any speaker cards knows speaker cards? So we're going ahead and close the public bring back to committee for the amendment. Ok, we had a motion to second on the Rules Amendment. COUNCILMAN, I mean, you're recognized. That's why we his co-sponsor. All right, MR. Kerry Colao also like to be at as a co-sponsor. And we have no one else. Okay. All in favor the rules and signify by saying Aye, aye any opposed the many carries bills. Motion is second on the bill as amended. Now in the queue up and not record vote. >> 7 yeas, 0 nays. Directions approved 2, 5, 90. MR. Grant, thank you so much for being here. We really appreciate it. Next time, if you can get your request in before 5 o'clock on Tuesday, that would be great. >> Yeah, you're fine. I'm just just a >> Poor yet it a little bit of haze in a daisy. Welcome easy. Alright committee members, go to action item number one. Sorry item. Number one is not an action item 2026. 1.24 is for item number tue. 26 1.25 Is deferred item number 3.26 one. 26. Let's open the public hearing. We have to use what we have. One speaker cards made the series is in opposition and she does not wish to speak. So with that, we'll continue this public until 9 15. 26 item number for 2026. 1.27 Over the public hearing. One speaker card, some of the series is in opposition and does not wish to speak. And we will continue this public hearing until 9 15. 26. Item number 5. 26 3.76 Open. The public hearing. No speaker cards. Do we have a staff report on this? We do not okay. So we have no speaker cards will close the public bring about committee for the substitute. We have a motion a second on the rules. Substitute unfair. The substitute signify by saying aye any oppose the substitute So. Motion second, the bills substitute against marriage recognized. Okay. We're not taking cause at this time, but we appreciate it. All We have a motion to We have a motion a second. We are taking co-sponsors. Rebecca going That's fine. All right. We have a motion to second on the bill itself suited up in about a quarter that. >> 7 yeas, 0 nays. >> buyer actually you have approved. 26 through 76 past present Carrico. You're recognized, sir. I'm sorry. Okay. Go ahead on the last bill over its Moving on. Okay. Thank you, sir. Item number 6.26 For 36 over the public hearing. We have one speaker card. It is the series in opposition. Does not wish to speak. Hello, Samantha. See would make there. All right. This public hearings continue to 9, 15. 26 item number 7. 26 5.23 Open the public hearing. One speaker cards made the series is in opposition does not wish to speak. And we will continue as public until 9, 15. 26 item number e 2026. 5.24 Open. The public hearing one speaker card so the series is in a position does not wish to speak. We'll continue this public hearings on 9 15. 26. Item number 9.26 Five-thirty to open the public hearing. Too. Three's Speaker cards. First up, we have Uni's Barnum come on down, followed by Vanessa Cohen's Hopkins. And Smith. The series. >> thing about Is that humans? Is She I think Barnum a step that I don't know where they all right she is in a position that's going talk in as you are recognized, name and address. Okay. My name is the Nets. The Collins Hopkins, 32 83 Edgewood Avenue West. >> Polls 2, 0, 2, 6, 0, 5, 3, 2, because of >> lack. >> Of environmental impact assessment studies for this concrete batch plant, which is going to be located. On Old Kings Road are is proposed to be located Old Kings Road, starting at the address. 71 67. But the 16 acres expect extends to Mockingbird Lane. A number of residences surrounding this area. Those residences primarily are along Mockingbird. It is recommended that you have at least 7.5 kilometers between any type of cement or concrete plant to protect the people that live in the area. From the small particulate matter. But also from the day, the noise, water runoff, which is contaminated and will lead to killing of plants MAY be utilized for food. And the water supply. Can be contaminated. So there's air pollution. Pollution and also health effects they can occur from what is being proposed so I recommend that slow this process. That we had, the community more involved. In making this decision. And most importantly, we need environmental and health impact study before any decision is made on such a. I agree the it. Now workers generally. The workers used protective equipment because of the problems with dust and also the problems with that. The aoc Glenn. Right It and concrete. Taking all these things in consideration. We need to oppose it. This is legislation this ordinance. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you, MISTER Cohn's Hawkins. We appreciate those words. Next. We have some the series followed by Wells Todd followed by. James Match. It. >> And this year's address on file. Of course, I agree with everything that was stated before me. This is a big environmental and residential issue. This is not just in the middle of nowhere. I know we like to read line everything and send things off to the North side. This is in middle of a neighborhood on the West side and Pittman's district. I would like to say that Pittman is having a community meeting on SEPTEMBER 10th at the Legends Center. It will be Thursday at 06:00pm. I think it's important that the community knows that. And I have reached out to many people in this guy. I do not live here, but I go to this area for other community meetings. So I know the people around there and many of them do not know that this is coming up for vote and they didn't even know about the community meeting. I've announced it on a couple of different platforms trying to get people informed. And every time I get comments saying, you I live down here and I had no idea. So I think it's important that we do take into account what is going on in that community and try to make sure that everyone's informed before we put some, you know, toxins into the air and into the water. Thank you. >> This year is when did you say the meeting was? >> SEPTEMBER 10th at 06:00pm the Legends Center. Okay. >> Okay. Great. Thank you for renouncing that. Well, it's >> name is well as just want to. Pick up where the last 2 speakers left off. This whole situation. Is a gift to From history of redlining. These plants. The liquor store that was Florida Gens the morgue. And medical examiner's office. All. Built in areas where land is cheap. And they built in the area is. That have basically been. Destroyed in one way or another by redlining. I keep saying this, that 19 of you voted to approve resolution. That recognize the destructive nature of redlining. >> MR. Todd, please speak to the bill. This is speaking to the bill. Like to say, is a plant. This plant is a result of redlining. As the last speakers said. They stated about the health concerns. This concrete. Has a lot of chemicals. And those chemicals will get into the air and those chemicals will get into people's lungs and those chemicals will eventually kill people. So but with saying is stop this process. Have every single. Environmental study. That can be done must be done. And this plant should be able to find another location sense. Square whatever you want to call it, Jacksonville is a large Land mass and the country. It seems like you want to cram everything. Into areas where the land is cheap. Okay. Thank you, sir. We have James Nash, it. James Match, it addresses on file. >> Out of a sense of fairness. Once I became aware they will have in the community mean I was going to for all my comments. But it has said, what I would like to do is give you an opportunity for something that you can look into before. So much McCombs would be very brief. As you heard. This plant will be in close proximity to homes, residential pedestrian activity, children's churches facility, a residential traffic. Rezoning. With introduce. Seaman silos, aggregate Hamlin see meant does Santa get does heavy concrete industrial equipment, diesel excels kimrey coup admission is washout, industry, knowledge and future. Do they have fugitive admissions? That's a fancy way of saying that Kim will cause use to stabilize 3rd allies and strengthen. See Mitt a caution. A Gen x 2 human beings. Flyers in Silicon. I'm giving you this of front. You can look into it. Again, out of fairness. I wanted to wait to this meeting that happened with MISS Pittman. And I'm assuming the developer I wanted Representative Goode be dead because I have some questions to ask them about the sds is that safety data sheets that's required of an industrial. Operations within I are. So we don't know exactly what chemicals we talking about and is not a blanket. Statement of how home for this is. So with that low, let take my see then. Yes, let's do homework before we approve this. >> All right. Things are nice. We have listened rather Sawyer. >> Hello, my name is Lou Chandra Sawyer. My address is 1, 1, 5, to 5 Carson Lake Drive Jacksonville, Florida, 3 to 2 to one. First and foremost. I just want to state that I do not support this rezoning requests and I believe that it should not pass. And my reasons for that is there are about 700 plus homes that surround it area. Nearly 2000 residents will be affected and also that 17.1% of our senior population that lives in the also. With that said it, that's 42% of those households who are in our allies population, which is asset, limited income constrained employed. And when families are already at financial vulnerability, state. They do not have the same ability to simply move if conditions around their homes. Depreciate. All right, change. So just to say also a community should not have to become unhealthy. Undesirable are unaffordable before we recognize that this can also a fake displacement and prevention is the responsibility of good planning. So we must plan ahead and plan accordingly. And also I wanted to stay that our seniors, our foundation and our children are our future. And with that said, there is an elementary school pick a bill our picket elementary is within one radius of this site. With that said not only those neighborhoods, students are common to this school when it's rebuilt. Also as a whole and rentals Lee Elementary will also be attending that school. So that also puts them at risk finally, I just wanted to say. Also in the area, there is a lot of homeowners that have wills so they are subject to depend on that groundwater for drinking, which. >> we cannot just simply afford to first ask and the and do an environmental study. We have to do it now before that, a fix them and is when they're cooking their food when their bathing every day. So we just we have to find out what is going on. >> And >> I just want to say Northwest Jacksonville has carried the burden of disinvestment environmental harm before so history. She MAY cause more cautious today. Not more comfortable. We add another potential Thank >> All right. Thank And next we have at juror who is in opposition and MARCH and just not wish to speak. All right. With that, we will continue this public hearing until 9 15. 26. Alright. Next action item is oh, I'm sorry, MR. You are recognized. Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN, I know that this is an up tonight, but there's been a lot of things >> That were said tonight and I figure we could do some q and a with the planning department and see what's fact what's fiction, because I know there's a community meeting and I would hate for more things to go to the community meeting that haven't had a chance to be discussing this public forum. So let me first ask to planning Department. What is the closest residents to this plant are proposed plan? >> Through the chair to COUNCILMAN Care goes to the nearest home is to the north and it's over 1000 feet from the subject. Property. I'd have to do a little bit more digging as to where the actual concrete batch is taking place, which would only be in the existing heavy industrial land use category, which is on the for the south side of the property. So it'll probably be an extra like 20500 feet from closes residential bought. >> It's currently zoned. I l correct? Yes, the property is. Zoned industrial light and has existing both light industrial land use and heavy industrial land use with the concrete batch part staying strictly in the portion that is already heavy industrial. Okay. And then we're asking to be changed to a p e u d. >> What would be the traditional category would need to go to industrial heavy, if not for the pd to have this kind of use. >> For the concrete batch plant, it would have to be heavy industrial land again. They are only operating that part in the existing heavy industrial land use and they're not adding all the other uses that would be usually found in heavy industrial. They're limiting it to just that use. >> So as an expert, if they were to just seek an industrial heavy land-use, what would be minimum buffer for residences be would be under 1000 1000 more than 1000. It would be under 1000. Yes, would be under 1000 if it had to go to industrial heavy, correct? Yes, okay. And do we know if the concrete is going to be mixed indoors or outdoors? I don't know their representative here from its MR. MS. Kristin read is this reader. I don't think so, but I can I can we can get that information. MISTER Hooks for you're not involved in this area. For some reason, I thought you might have been with misread out someone's coming down. Can you tell us please? And for all the people here, if the concrete is going to be mixed indoors or outdoors. >> Blair night in Kenly more. I have not year with the actual product in what's happening on the site. But we can get that answer will have that the community meeting. >> Yes, the community is coming up try to help everybody here that that's the only reason for my line of questioning. I know one community meetings I've had in my district. There's usually a lot of people with a lot of questions and sometimes MISS Donors. So I just try to get the facts on the record and >> that's wells for water. >> Back to planning department. Is that a consideration? When you look at applications for Nestor Heavy, how many wells are in the area of contamination to wells is something that is. >> So when this gets approved, that will have to go through our solid waste division to receive what we call a certificate of necessity, which means that the use gets reviewed according to all of their regulations and state regulations. So I am getting in contact with that rep presented to have all that information ready for the public hearing. Sorry. The community meeting for SEPTEMBER 10th. Appreciate everybody being willing answer the questions. >> I just try to get some things on the record. Another is a community meeting and trust that the district councilperson will will make sure that the people's voices are heard and that the professionals in there to answer the questions. I'm just in a listening phase right now until this comes in front of us. So thank you for bladder me, MR. CHAIRMAN, those questions. >> All right. No problem and welcome COUNCILMAN Clerk Mary and you're in. The qc recognized. Thank you, chair of the one of the applicant representative that he would come forward again, just really a simple question. >> Is, do you know as we or another representative of the applicant plans to attend the community meeting to the chair? Yes, ma'am. All right. Thank you for through the chair to MISS. But thank to MISS Vanessa Collins. Do you If do you know if is that the cpac night that the meeting is going to be held at the same night as the cpac as a northwest. See Pat. >> My understanding is that the community t beating that COUNCILWOMAN Pittman is going to add the is the same day as Which is SEPTEMBER and the tent. So there definitely is a conflict. >> But is it be held during that time were in the same building? Do know is in the same building, not the same road. Same time. 06:00pm. >> Thank you for that. Thank you. Chair. All right. We have no other speaker cards on 26 5.32 In this public going to continue until 9 15. 26. >> Next item number 10. 26 5, 5, 3, Let's open the public. A staff report. >> Ordinance 2026, 5, 5, 3 is for small scale land use amendment to change the land use designation of 2.5, 3 acres at 1, 4, 1, 4 cars. Elaine, from low density residential to neighborhood commercial. The subject site is located between Monument Road in cars. Elaine, the subject parcel France Monument Road which is classified as a minor are 2 real roadway. Even though the site is address from cars. Elaine, the access to the site would be from Monument Road. The subject site is currently undeveloped north of the subjects site across Monument Road is a single family neighborhood immediately south and east of the site are single-family homes designated ldr nmd r approximately a quarter mile to the east of the site along Monument Road is the intersection of monument in Saint Johns Bluff Road. This is a commercial node that consists of a variety of office and commercial uses neighborhood commercial is a category primarily intended to provide commercial retail and service establishments which serve the daily needs of nearby residential neighborhoods. The proposed amendment 2 and c would offer an extension of the commercial node and allow neighborhood scale low intensity commercial uses as the transition from the commercial node to the residential uses. Plan Amendment request for new and see designations are preferred in locations which are supplied with full urban services, but a roadway classified as a collector or higher and which are compatible with adjacent residential use residential neighborhoods. The proposed amendment to nc allows for neighborhood scale commercial development on the site with full urban services that France a minor to roadway for these reasons. And those in the staff report, the Planning Department recommends approval planning commission heard this item on AUGUST. 20th and they unanimously approved the item with minimal discussion. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. We have one Speaker card, John Herbert. Good evening. I'm just the applicant. There's any questions from the the chair appear. I will take them and try to answer. I'm here. Okay. Thank you. Let's close. But we can bring back to me. I motion is second on the bill known in the Queue. So quick vote. >> 16 yeas, 0 nays. >> Virus. You prove 26. 5, 5, 3, Item number 11 26, 5, 5, 4 counselors. Police declare any ex parte communication you have at this time seeing none. Let's open the public and staff report. >> Thank you. This is the companion convention rezoning ordinance 2025, 5, 5, 4, seeking a rezone. Approximately 2.5, 3 acres for property located along Monument Road rezoning from residential load into the 60 to commercial neighborhood in order to develop the site with commercial neighborhood uses the subject. Property again is located on the South Side, a monument road which is classified as a minor real roadway. The site lies as a transition point between single family residential neighborhoods to the West South and north and general commercial uses to the East on Monument Road in Saint Johns Bluff Boulevard. Access to the property will be strictly from Monument Road and no access would be permitted through cars, Elaine, even though it's address off of cars. Elaine staff finds the requested rezone. You consistent with the comp plan with the proposed land use category of in c and the rezoning supports the policies by encouraging infill underutilized, parcels compatible land use transitions between residential neighborhoods and commercial corridors. They're surrounding development. Is a natural transition of these intensities moving from single-family to neighborhood commercial closer to the intersection there at monument in Saint Johns. Bluff Road. We find that requested rezoning to be compatible with surrounding development. So for these reasons and those the staff report, we forward a recommendation of approval. This was heard by Planning Commission AUGUST 20th at that meeting, there were several speakers. For the adjacent neighborhood nearby. He just had concerns about the access to the property. One staff clarified that no access would come from causing Lane. They had no concerns and there was little discussion amongst the commissions they voted unanimously for approval. >> All right. Thank you so much for that report. We have one Speaker Card, John Herbert, questions only. Okay. Questions only is in support with that will close the public hearing and bring committee. But we have counsel McCarrick on the key. You've got you're recognized. >> Thank you, MR. Chair. I did want to bring MR. Herbert up to the podium. Just the people at home that don't have all the information we do in front of us will always know books and applications and pretty pictures will what exactly is happening here? A monument >> a rezone for? Commercial development that provides a buffer between the higher intensity commercial to the east and the residential that to the West. There's no proposed use of this time. It was just too spur economic growth and local job creation in the area. We have no proposed plans. Orange Decided on it. The no plans. Are you the owner? Are you representing lobbying firm or a builder? And represent? The owner? >> They're not a legend here. So when Jenna, okay. So we're just rezoning something with no plan, Just to make it more marketable remarkable market. Got it time. It's just sometimes confuses us when especially when it's low density. Now you move into more of a commercial use like, you know, the people that live there have kind of a right to know what you plan to do with it. I know legally you don't have to tell them. But you should have some kind of idea if you want to rezone this property, what you think might go there. That would be helpful, especially to the people who live next door, who some of them actually came out in opposition. I know is more for the access. But I just think you owe the public a little better explanation of what you want to do that view that grace, if you like, if not, then you can see where the votes go. Something from the approved neighborhood commercial allowed uses list, which I believe has 22 different uses. We have no set. Plans for the property this time. Just highest and best use for the uses that are approved in the neighborhood commercial category. Alright council. But I mean, you're recognized think through the chair, I think, you know, is looking through this on Sunday. Mice reads on Sunday and up looking fuse. How this complies with the 2020 Salem Amendments. >> down as always, our Missouri River come on back down. All threw the chair on a promise to So I was just trying to figure out how this qualified under the 2020 say limits and comply with I just didn't see any of that paperwork. And in the fall. I would have to talk with the staff that helped with the final on that one. >> I don't know if the Salem thing is. >> It distracted. You speak to the count. The District Council member. >> The >> Kuzma Day. Did you speak to counsel again? Yes, we tried to a simpler rezone process, but he said to we're trying to get something. Developing the property. But we went through the channels here 4 straight rezone for neighborhood commercial. We previously had wanted higher density. We're not density higher commercial, like are neighbors to the east. But staff talked down from commercial general to down from commercial general, one down to neighborhood commercial and that would be better than a single family home along high density road next to commercial. Okay, we'll just interjection but Kuzma Diamond have the floor. >> Yeah. Were. >> Commingling serious and not serious here. Want to split these apart because? >> All right. So on the knot, this Salem, its own existence, you just never been out there. And we are as people with question of ailments. That's why they're laughing. While we did that. People had like serious issues. A question so forgive me for that. Folks like behind life and he was here when we met them. So I'll let people as they're they're honest questions. And I appreciate your your humor and thanks. Alright. Kendrick afternoon, you're recognized. Thank you to chair >> MR. Her. But you have a timeline on this. We want to have to be close. Timeline for tied to a Muslim. And again, if you represent, I guess the owner and is on the contract. If you already own it. Is under contract. And I know that. >> The contract is dependent upon it being rezoned. >> Because I'm thinking right now need to be the fire MAY be for that one cycle a couple of weeks until you speak to the council person over his district. I'm not sure if we need a neighborhood me about least until you speak to the council person of the station. But at the same time, I want to be respectful, be mindful, you know, the I guess the investment that you guys are making in a time that you do have so I mean, I want at least, you know, be respected to you as well. But at the same time, I do think, you know, the counseling need to be aware it is and maybe he needed constituents. We did have a neighborhood meeting that was requirement of the planning. I believe. >> We only had one person come out in support we had no opposition on the call was a pretty quick call. And we did talk. We kept going to the secretary for the council members. We're trying to. Like I said prior we're trying to get a higher intensity use, but it was talked and after we sat on it for many months, we decided neighborhood commercial is the best fit for the region. As a buffer step down between the higher intensity to the east and the went on to our west. So that's what I'm going make a recommendation of for. If I get a second, I get a second if I don't, I don't you know. So so we hear the recommendation we're going holding off on the motion is we do have someone else in the q >> Is that what I'm hearing? Yes or okay. Okay. Let me let's hear from past present Carrico. They will. We appreciate recommendation present their recognized. Thank you, MR. CHAIRMAN, I just want to make sure that all the facts are verified here. So the applicant said that the commercial neighborhood. >> So district at about 22 uses, can a plane department recent those uses and let me know if they're 22 or if they're less or more. >> Through the chair to COUNCILMAN Carrico. So in the commercial neighborhood, there are 15 uses that are allowed by right? These are limited to doctors, offices, dental offices, professional business offices. You multi-family residential when it's integrated it with another permitted use. You have neighborhood retail sales and service uses. You can have beauty shops, restaurants without drive in a drive-thru. Thanks, libraries, community centers. You can have retail sales of beer and wine for offering. This is consumption to a convenience store that Marion offices, unemployment offices, churches, art galleries, dance fitness centers and pharmacies that were already existing. So those are the uses that would be allowed. I right. Ok, thank you, guys. Want to make sure that anyone from district to listening at home was aware that those are the possible uses. >> can end up in your neighborhood. All right. Thank you for that. MR. Herbert just I think we asked this question. I just I didn't get a clear answer. Did you speak to day and was there any concerns? >> We did speak to I think has about a year ago and there was no concerns at that time we are. Looking to close this sooner than later because we are nearing the end of our. Period on the. Contract for it. We're pushing. Like I said, we push for harder and we're talk down and that process of deliberating between stepping down 2 steps from our initial desire took like 8 months. And we're at the end of due diligence period for the site. >> Okay. Understood. Understood was trying to get a handle on that Kuzma down. You're recognized just my $0.02 MR. Chair is really hard when you put a lot of time and energy into a property in a project. >> And you've got you know, a closed 8 on why they're running up against that. I'm perfect personally. Finally moving forward. This isn't you know, he's already shifted into a more mellow use. It would be terrible to invest 10's of thousands of dollars in effort here and then lose it because we deferred. And COUNCILMAN Gay usually knows what's in his district and he's not here and I'm not going Say there's an implication that but I just want to say I'm comfortable moving forward. Let move on to the project is trying to best in Jacksonville. Let's roll. Okay. Al Qaeda. >> Put my $0.02 and they're obviously councilmember gay. His district is is very tight knit. They're probably 50 people here. If there was an issue but just just, >> you know, for your own. >> Benefit, I guess, MR. Herbert, I think a lot of us basically no one heard from you because no undeclared ex parte. So we do hear from the applicant and there's a change going on. And there's not really a plan usually doesn't go very well. So luckily, there's no one here in opposition by with that. We want to for this. If anything happens between now and Tuesday, then so be it. But for now. I think we have everything we need to close public hearing, ok, we close the public hearing. You see there's no other questions for you. We have a motion in a second on the bill with that. No one in the queue. Let's open about a quarter vote. >> 7 yeas, 0 nays. >> By or actually approved. 26 5, 5, 4, item number 12. 26 5, 5, 5 counselors. Police declare your ex parte communication at this time. White. You're recognized. >> The clear my 2 days ago, another conversation with Ronnie Fussell he would be here tonight, but MISTER Hutch would would be here and that will be filed. >> Thank you so much with that. We have no one else in the queue for ex parte. Let's open the public here. You get a staff report. >> Thank you. This is commissioner rezoning ordinance 2026 at 5, 5, seeking a rezone 0, 2, 5, acres from cc. You want to see Tg to in order to unify zoning with the owners adjacent parcel that's located at 22 road which already operates under Ccg too. The applicant intends to use the site as an overloaded story. Jen operations area for the Vickers car repair business that operates on that. 22 and The subject property fronts read South, which is a collector road way and is situated within an established commercial and industrial corridor. The subject properties are finds the requested rezoning to be consistent with the comp plan Ccg to support a broad range of commercial uses which would include the auto repair in storage and aligned with the policies promoting compact commercial development and advancement of existing commercial corridors within the area surrounding land use and zoning pattern support the request north of the site is Ccg to zoning with retail service garages and restaurant uses to the east and west are industrial zone properties that allow for out open storage manufacturing, warehousing operations then further, we have residential use. Is that why further south of the site? But these properties are already zoned ccg one in d c g 2 the request extends the existing commercial zoning pattern with out inducing. Introducing new impacts beyond what's already existing within the immediate area. So for these reasons and those in the staff report, we forward a recommendation of approval. This was heard by Planning Commission AUGUST 20th. There are no speakers in opposition and little discussion amongst commissioners and they voted unanimously for approval. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you so much. We have one speaker card folks hooks for doesn't support questions. Only no other speakers know the speaker cards. Those close the public hearing bring back to committee. Motion second on the bill now in the queue up in about a quarter vote. >> 7 yeas, 0 nays. They are actually recruit. Went 1, 6, 5, 5, 5 item. Number 13. 26 5, 5, 6, counselors pleased to clear your ex parte communication at this time. COUNCILMAN Gaffney, you're recognized. >> Thank you. To asked the committee to ask differ on legislation. I had a phone call, phone call applicant. But we still have some, I guess, items to be worked out. So I'm not ready to take up the session. And I so mascot for the for. All right. No problem. Item number. 26 sixes. Defer But it missed the anthem is I went to the chair and that the anthonys yell at the speed with much. If not. >> MR. And the I k are you here? Don't see here. Good thing. You got a deferral. All right. So we need think on that, MR. Harvey just open the public delayed until 9.15 >> All right. We're gonna open the public no speaker cards this public. You be continue to 9 15. 26. Thank you, Always enough for district. We appreciate that item. Number 14, 26 5, 5, 7, of open the public and we have one speaker card submitted the series is in a position and she does not wish to speak. Number 15, 2026, 5, 5, 8, open. The public hearing. We have 2 speaker cards made the series in opposition does not wish to speak next. Speaker card the No, Sir Cohen's Hopkins. >> Vanessa Guillen top is 80 to 83 Edgewood Avenue West. I speak in opposition and to to any to any 6, 0, 5, 5, 8, because we have not been shown a traffic study for the Ingress and egress of the suburban area, the residential area, is adjacent to the land. That's being proposed to be turned into. Rld 40 from the original zoning of Rld 60. To my knowledge, this issue also is going to be discussed on SEPTEMBER. The 10th during the community meeting. At least hopefully we will have some concrete information as it relates to. In grass and egress from the main road that will be leading into this property, is proposed to be rezoned to. Rld Ford, thank you. >> Thank know, other speaker cards. So we will continue this public hearing until >> is at 9 15. 26. Item number 16. 22 6, 5, 5, 9, open. The public hearing. No speaker cards will continue public here until 9 15. 26 item number 17 to 26, 5, 6, 0, consumers pleased clear ex parte communication at this time. Seeing no one in the queue. Let's open the public and you get a staff report. >> Thank you, 2026. 5.66 An exception to permit the retail sales service of all alcoholic beverages for on premise consumption, including liquor, beer and wine with permit outside sales and service areas and to allow a nightclub with an existing commercial building on Park Street, a portion of the tenant space will also operate as a restaurant. The 2 storefronts were formally neon moon and rain dogs and the new tenant will be fought Tuesdays. There's a companion waiver of liquor distance wl d 26 era 5 for Qwest introduce the required separation from a church from 1500 feet to 410 feet. The site is located within the community. General commercial land use category and urban priority Development area and lies within the riverside. Zoning overlay and both the national and local historic districts. The request is consistent. The 2045 comprehensive plan which supports compact commercial development multi-modal access. Everybody leaves revitalization of existing commercial corridors. Similar full-service, alcoholics shipments already operate along Park Street confirming compatibility. Staff finds no adverse impacts to traffic. Public conditions for future development for these reasons. And those in the staff report, the plane Department board's recommendation of approval with the condition. Listen in the agenda. All right. Thank you. We have 2 speaker cards first step. Amanda. Assigned a >> We can't really hear you. I'm sorry. Can you put the Mike upper? Is it was a time? >> She now at right now. I apologize. >> I'm here representing Phat Tuesdays on this item Fat Tuesday is combining both of the 10 space is one of 4, 3, 1, 0, 4, 5, to constitute a kitchen and bar Phat Tuesdays will be operating. It can grow into all of the similarly surrounding operations on theirs top 10 years. You've got hawkers and all of that could staff on the same street and they want to be a great community partner and they are very excited to be a part of the 5 points district. We a COUNCILMAN Palou. So we've had great We spoken to business Improvement District 5 Point Association and the Riverside Avalon Preservation, all with very positive feedback you have any questions, I'm here to answer them. Thank you so much. >> All right. Next we have Paul Navy. I'm here on behalf of the applicant as well. I can answer operational questions that you MAY have. >> We have known in the queue. So let's close the public hearing bring back to committee. All right. We have motion to second on the amenity of the amendment. All right. All in favor the minute signify by saying any opposed even carries. Motion is second on the Bills. Minute counselor. You're I just want I'm gonna vote. Yes. On all This is a really critical Spotify point. So I hope you guys are successful. We absolutely need to see 5 points to better with all these bars restaurants closing over their love to see the combination and people opening up and doing good stuff. >> So good luck you. Is because most >> I look, I drink hot singer, sir. I would like to have other options because the teachers are great, but they get old after a while. >> Yeah, as councilmember Lisa co-sponsor, bill, I know he likes the co-sponsors only knows anyways. All right. We have a motion a we have one Speaker council past PRESIDENT Carrico. You're recognized. I think chair and I'll be I think this fits very well and obviously an entertainment district. People go to have fun and have a good time. >> I do hate a little bit that it's a big national chain. I wish somebody local could have, you know, stepped up and had a double decker frozen drink bar there. But we don't have that person. So I that Tuesday's it is. All Councilmember Johnson, you're recognized. I'm just going to add. And usually and counsel former cat to the chair, former council PRESIDENT. I do think that usually in Fat Tuesday is. >> Around the country wherever they are. They usually have a local fort focused kind of push to where they are like when we and we've missed fat Tuesday since it was at the Jacksonville Landing, I MAY or MAY not have spent several days of my youth having. Enjoying Phat Tuesdays at the Jacksonville Landing. But it's good to see them back in the area. They usually try to make sure it's a local focus, MR. What they're doing. So I think this is a great project for this area and excited to see how will improve Jacksonville. Thank you. As PRESIDENT Eric, a recognized. Thank you, MR. Chair that being said, I think we should somehow get a. >> a portrait flavor. Zachery. If we could do a mayport, rent flavored, then. >> I won't make the motion to make that a condition. But I think we should somehow incorporate maybe it's another flavor. But let's get a local flavor other whatever they have. Hurricanes and high octane isn't all that. Something must ramp from cocktail daiquiri outbreak. >> Did you want to have the applicant agree that are? All right. We're good. Let's get now. Let's get this out. We have a motion a second. There's no doubt in the queue it up in about a quarter up. >> 7 yeas, 0 nays. >> But actually recruit. 26 5.60 Thank you for tolerating. No easy. We appreciate it. All right. Item or 18, 26, 5.61 counts members. Please, to clear your ex parte communication at this time seeing none. Let's open the public and staff report. >> Thank you. 2026, 5.61 seeks an exception to permit the retail sales service of beer and wine for off press consumption within the Chafee Square. 3 pt the pd Rd allows mixed use development with commercial out parcels on Normandy Boulevard and the proposed use would operate as part of a planned 5,340 Square Foot Circle k Fuel station and convenience store. There's a companion zoning variance which will be heard next. Staff finds request consistent with the 2045 comprehensive plan. The site lies within the cdc land use category along Normandy Boulevard and fdot principal arterial roadway and supports commercial uses developed and noble and corridor patterns. The proposal aligns with the policies encouraging infill and redevelopment of it of existing commercial areas and supports the viability of nearby residential neighborhoods. Turning uses include vacant commercial parcels. They can't residential pd areas. Additional commercial zoning along Normandy Boulevard. Chief, you read the pros exception is compatible with this development pattern and will not create verse impacts environmental conditions, traffic circulation, public services for future development for these reasons. And those in the staff report the Planning Department for the recommendation of approval. >> All right. Thank you so much. We have one Speaker card. Learn it. >> I think I'm thank you. We appreciate the staff report. We agree and I'm here for questions. >> We have known in the q a questions. So with that will close public hearing and bring back to committee. Motion. Second on the bill known in the Queue Open about a quick vote. >> 7 yeas, 0 nays actually approved 26. 5.61 I don't. Number 1926, 5.62 Counselors please ex parte communication at this time seeing none. Let's open the public and staff report. >> 2026, 5.62 seeks section 6, 5, 6, 6, 0, 7, of the parking lot. Landscaping Matrix, an increase in maximum driveway with from 24 feet to 40 feet. The property is located near the intersection of Normandy Boulevard. Chief u Road South as proposed for development as a Circle k fuel station convenience store. The applicant has demonstrated that the operational needs of the proposed filling station Dixie typical parking demand require higher parking ratio to accommodate anticipated fuel delivery activity in customer volume, parking demand analysis supports this request. The increased driveway with is needed to ensure safe maneuverability for fuel delivery trucks, which must execute 180 degree. Right turn only in Gress from Normandy Boulevard in 90 degree turning movements for both ingress and egress Stephens request consistent with the definition of a variance and the proposed relief will not adversely affect surrounding properties, diminished property values or create environmental or traffic impacts for these reasons. And those in the staff report the plane department, Ford's recommendation of approval. >> All right. Thank you. We have Speaker Card Blair, 19. >> Thank you. Staff for appreciating it and I'm here for questions. Thank you. >> All right. Questions only we have known the Culex close the public hearing bring back to committee. Motion to second on the bill known the Queue Open about a quarter that. >> 7 yeas, 0 nays. >> But you're actually recruit 1.6, 5.62, item, number 2020, 26, 5.63 council is pleased to clear ex parte communication at this time. Seeing none. Let's open the public and staff report. >> 2026 5. 63 6, an exception to prevent the retail sales service of all alcoholic beverages, including liquor, beer and wine for on premise. Consumption at 53 40 Normandy Boulevard, the Tenet or the request is made by Tobacco. Gore Inc, which currently operates a cigar bar with an a 6,900 square-foot commercial building developed in 1946, the site is ccg to wear. Full alcohol service is permitted only by zoning exception. There's a companion waiver of liquor Distance w l d 26. 0, 6, approved on AUGUST 6, which reduces the minimum required distance from a church, a school from 1500 feet to 800 feet nearby. Establishment Charlie Slickers receive similar approvals in Twenty-twenty demonstrating precedent for alcohol service in this corridor. Staff finds propose exception consistent the 2045 comprehensive plan. The site lies within the cdc land use category or contact commercial development along arterial corridors. Encourage the pros. Alcohol service is compatible surrounding commercial uses, which include restaurants, retail stores and service businesses along Normandy. The request would not create diverse environmental traffic or public service impacts and is unlikely to affect neighboring properties. Given the existing commercial pattern for these reasons. And those in the staff report before recommendation of approval. >> All right. Thank you so much. We have 2 speaker cards. Alright for Speaker Card. Andrew. Messi >> I mean, from a Siena and my addresses on the honor just here for any questions. >> All right. Thank you, sir. Sir. I head we have one question for you, MR. Read it. I'll defer to the district COUNCILMAN. I see you're on the Queue. Okay. Just click means you have a question for Missy. It MR. Messy or do you want to speak on the bill? Are? We have one other speaker cards to the chair? I was waiting for the next speaker. To speak and then now talk about okay. I was I was asked a question, owner to you know, I chair. Thank you, You don't primo cigar. Oh, yes. Okay. And then the idea is to serve liquor. I was on Edgewood for 15 years. >> At 10, 70 Edgewood Avenue. I had cigar lounge there. With beer and wine. In right after covid. The building sold prior to that. 2 Prime Realty, which we realized we have to move out and find our own location. So we purchase that building back in SEPTEMBER of 19. And then went ahead and refurbished it and went through it. And moved from Edgewood Avenue over to Normandy. Now we got into the building and 24. And we've been operating as a cigar retail for since 24, we want to go back to being a cigar lounge. So you want hear and wine for want to do here in one and for whole? Yes. And friend and liquor. Truck and I would that make Thank you. All right. Thank you, sir. >> Next speaker we have is Charles night. 5, 6, by that. Sorry about that. All right. No problem. We have no other speaker cards ms Clark. Mary, you are recognized. >> I thank you chairs. So really to the committee did have an opportunity to speak with MR. Messy and basically the concept is that he is going to it's a cigar lounge in. He wants those who come to the cigar lounge to be able to. Beer. Thank GOD call and it's going to be consumed on site. I think I had a constituent maybe 2 weeks ago who had a concern as to whether or not. And the next person who if you decide to sell the property at know, would be able to have the same exception. And I think that you all expressed at that time and I know I can from Harvey during our city Council meeting that the exceptions are not you can't pass them on. They're not grandfather. The next person would have to apply for an exception as well. So with that being said, you let messed MR. Messy on. Think it's a good idea. And that's all I can say at this point because, you know, i don't vote tonight. All right. Thank you. Chair. >> All right, Ben, thank you. We have no other speakers in the queue. No other speaker card. So we'll close the public hearing. Bring back to committee. Motion and a second on the bill comes from a dine-in. You're recognized. He was CHAIRMAN Me a yes on this. I to big cigar lounges tend to be classed year and less problematic than most neighborhoods Good luck. >> Get you an advantage because most Alright. Counselor areas recognized. I think you chair. I just have a question. Do do you guys sell food here? Primo's through the chair. Can please come to the podium? We are going to have a food truck. >> Eventually we had food truck at location that used to come. Few days out of the week. Pretty much you say through. That was my question eye on the ice because MR. Harvey is I mean, obviously that's mandated by the state. But >> I don't think he's even So Laker great or without having food permit. Are you getting idea of a 51? 49, nice and where we are with us. >> I'm sorry. I don't care. What you going? O k through the In order to sell liquor. You needed to Pete for wine or for free points up for for alcohol. >> If you're trying to get a flaw called license which has to be through state, not us. Yeah. Right. I'm just going for an exception here. You would have to sell food and tell a 51 39. No, no, I'm not trying to do a restaurant. You asked me if I was going to have food. Okay. Probably have a food truck. I had a food truck at Mayo last. >> Got it location. Not me personally. But so just to make sure you I just want make sure I understand this because this isn't the first time he still has to go through the state. Okay. So we're granting the exception and then from here going to take it to state. Yes, just want to make Thank >> Okay. Excellent that all. That's also we have anyone else in the queue. And I think we have a motion a second. So let's open about >> 7 yeas, 0 nays. >> By approved 2026, 5.63 item number. 21. 22 6, 5, 64 Council members. Please declare your ex parte communication at this Time Council past PRESIDENT Character. You're recognized. Thank you, chair. I would like to declare ex parte as I got a phone call in a voicemail from the stickers hard. It was unable to answer his phone. You know, I always answer your call, but I traveling at the time in my assistant. MISS Lee got me up to speed on your request and didn't have any further questions but listen to the voicemail. So I have to claim that today as ex parte and we'll get the fall with legislative services cast member died in. You're recognized. Thank eyes to declare the worst ex parte experience where I just got terse text from Curtis Heart to which I responded with a meme with me pressing red button. >> is recognized. All right. Thank you, chair. I also received a text message from MR. Curtis Kharkiv in even Call Me just texted >> Which is, you know, the ami. But anyways, just want to follow. That's going to filed and I'm not sure want to go with this, but I'll keep pumping about this. Thank you. Cast member Johnson, you're recognized. I rise to declare ex parte. I had a very meaningful, wonderful, heartfelt flowering, text. >> From MR. Hart. It had its see hearts and sunshine emojis on the tax that I receive 7 about the terse tax seriously. I will declare this with the basic services uses as we've questions. And I did not. After a review. The legislation figure out asking here, maybe thank because we're white. You're recognized older clerics. Part Kurds called me and we got a 30 minute conversation. >> And but we fall. >> All right. And I just want to clear Yeah, I had a meeting at the Northeast. Florida Association had a nice long tour with MISTER Curtis Art. And he did not text me and we'll get this paperwork, 5 of legislative services. So with that, we'll go ahead open the public his staff report. >> Thank you. This is signed waiver ordinance 2026, Dash 0, 5, 6, 4, which is seeking to reduce the distance between a wall sign in residential his own property from 250 feet to 88 feet. The property is zoned commercial residential office, which has unique signage regulations and that will sign it is very limited unless the property has 200 feet of street frontage and is at least 3 acres in size. Then they would be allowed while signed up to 100 square feet. However, this will sign is not located it. However, the side the wall time has to not be located within 200 feet of a residential. He's owned the property. The sign waivers, therefore seeking to reduce the setback requirement to allow for the property to have one will sign. It's going to be approximately 60 16.4 square feet to be placed on the front facade of the building facing Sunbeam Road staff has reviewed request finds it meets the criteria for approval. The property faces Sunbeam Road where nearby properties are zoned, heavy commercial or industrial, which signage allow is allowed up to 10% of the building frontage and they do not have set back regulations for nearby residential. The sign will only be visible from the right of way on Sunbeam Road and will not interfere with or into the right to the surrounding property owners. So for these reasons and those in the staff report, we, Florida recommendation of approval. >> All right. Thank you so much. Was Speaker Card Curtis Art? Curtis Harding, 0, 5, Want Your Lady questions to answer. All right. Excellent. Thank you so much. We have no one in the queue. So let's close the public hearing during that committee. We have a motion to second on the bill knowing the Cumulus. Up in about a quarter vote. >> 16 yeas, 0 nays. I actually approved. 26 5.64 >> I can tell the Northeast Florida Builders Association, appreciate it. Good job. Thank you for being district. 5 constituents. Number. 22, 26 5.65 counselors. Please to call your ex parte communication at this time. Seeing no one in the queue. Let's open the public and to staff report. >> Thank All This is. We can this this a signed waiver ordinance, 2026, Dash, 0, 5, 6, 5, which is seeking to reduce the setback for the placement for the replacement of an existing front sign from 10 the to 3 feet. The subject property is located at the intersection of Atlantic Boulevard and Monument Road, which was originally developed in 1999 as a gas station will full service car wash. The property owner is seeking to replace the existing sign which has been in place since the original development with a new sign in the same exact location. Although the request a setback is 30 feet from the property line. The sign is approximately 20 feet back from the edge of payment. So it is ensuring that the standard sight Triangle for signage will be maintained on the property staff has reviewed the request, find it meets the criteria for approval if the sign were be Rick to be required to meet the 10 foot setback, it would be placed within existing drive aisles on the development. The sign is in character with similar developments along Atlantic Boulevard for so for these reasons. And those in the staff fort with Florida become a nation of approval. >> I thank you so much. We have one speaker card MR. Charles Night and checked questions only Parsons, only. Okay. All right. Thank you, sir. All right. We have known in the queues those close. The public bring back to committee bill. Motion to second on the bill known in the Queue up in about a quarter vote. >> 5 0 nays. >> They are actually approved. 26 5.65 item. Number 20 3, 26 5, 6, 6, open. The public hearing. Nose speaker cards will continue this public hearing until 9 15. 26. Item number. 24. 26 5.67 Counselors pleased to clear your communication at this time. Seeing none. Let's open the public any a staff report. >> 2026 5.67 Takes a waiver of road frontage to reduce the required memo. Road 80 feet to 0 feet to allow for the development of a single-family home. A newly created one and a half acre lot currently zoned r t 100 day. The lot was recently split from the southern portion of the parent parcel and does not have direct frontage on a public are approved private road. Access to the site will be provided through a combination of a 10 foot wide easement from all been court. And a 25 foot wide easement connecting Tolman road. Staff finds the waiver appropriate a strict enforcement of the French requirement would prevent development of the law, creating a practical difficulty. Request is not intended to reduce development costs or circumvent subdivision, regulations somewhere. Lots include are surrounding lot include similarly configured, parcels access to be it is meant in similar waivers have been approved on housing court, including wr f 2050. The proposal will not diminished property values, alter, neighborhood character or conflict to the public health, safety or welfare, adequate access for emergency services is provided their existing easements. The development will comply with all zoning and subdivision requirements for these reasons. And those in the staff report before recommendation of approval. >> so much we have 2 speaker cards first step. >> Jason Nixon and the Czech does not wish to speak questions only in Teresa mix and is in support checked does not wish to speak questions only. With then we have known in the queue. So it's closed public hearing. Bring back to come in. Motion is second on the bill. No one in the queue. It's open about a quarter vote. >> By the 0 nays. >> Meyer actually approved. 26 5.67 We are took up action item number. 25. So we're gonna. Reid sums well, we've got a couple deferrals and we've got to maybe 2 more action item. So item number. 26 2026, 6, 18, 6, 19, 6. 26. 21 6.22 Are all differed with the public hearing next 9, 15. 26. Which brings us to number 31 to 26 6.23 Council members. Please clear ex parte communication at this time. Areas. You're recognized. Thank you, chair. So on to the carrots, white Hance both to the applicants on AUGUST 7 at 10:30am, regarding this renovation for this on fitness center, which is really a paddle club and it's going to be in fall. Thank you. All right. Thank you so much for that. Let's go to the public a staff report. >> 2026 6.23 Seeks exception to permit the retail sales service of all alcoholic beverages for on premise consumption in conjunction with a paddle of fitness facility. The subject site is a 13.3 8 acre parcel at 8, 3, 1, 3, based a road containing a 2000 too hot. 273,649 square-foot warehouse constructed in 1974, the applicant intends to lease a portion of this warehouse to establish an indoor sports facility with complimentary alcohol service. There's a companion waiver of liquor distance Double d 26. 0, 7 approved by Planning Commission on AUGUST. 20th which produce the required separation from River City Science Academy from