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CITY COMMISSION WORK SESSION

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>> MAYOR >> MAYOR FREANEY: >> JANUARY >> JANUARY 7, >> JANUARY 7, 2025, >> JANUARY 7, 2025, CITY >> JANUARY 7, 2025, CITY COMMISSION >> JANUARY 7, 2025, CITY COMMISSION WORK 2025, CITY COMMISSION WORK SESSION. SESSION. LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING OFFICIALLY TO ORDER, AND WE'LL OFFICIALLY TO ORDER, AND WE'LL START WITH OUR PLEDGE OF START WITH OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. ALLEGIANCE. JEN, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE JEN, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? PLEDGE? >> BE HAPPY TO. >> BE HAPPY TO. >> BE HAPPY TO. [PLEDGE >> BE HAPPY TO. [PLEDGE OF >> BE HAPPY TO. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, WE HAVE >> OKAY, WE HAVE >> OKAY, WE HAVE NO >> OKAY, WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS, >> OKAY, WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS, SO >> OKAY, WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS, SO I'M >> OKAY, WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS, SO I'M GOING NO PRESENTATIONS, SO I'M GOING TO MOVE TO CITIZEN INPUT. TO MOVE TO CITIZEN INPUT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? CUTE, CUTE. CUTE, CUTE. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] YEAH. YEAH. FOR THOSE WHO COULDN'T SEE THAT, FOR THOSE WHO COULDN'T SEE THAT, SOME OF THE STAFF STARTED TO SOME OF THE STAFF STARTED TO STAND UP, SO ANYWAY. STAND UP, SO ANYWAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. CONSENT AGENDA. SO WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE SO WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR 10/15/2024 WORK MINUTES FOR 10/15/2024 WORK SESSION, 10/17/2024 REGULAR SESSION, 10/17/2024 REGULAR MEETING, 10/24/2024 SPECIAL MEETING, 10/24/2024 SPECIAL MEETING, 11/7/2024 REGULAR MEETING, 11/7/2024 REGULAR MEETING, AND WE ALSO HAVE MEETING, AND WE ALSO HAVE REAPPOINTMENT TO THE YOUTH REAPPOINTMENT TO THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD, AND WE HAVE THE ADVISORY BOARD, AND WE HAVE THE APPROVAL TO INCREASE THE APPROVAL TO INCREASE THE EXISTING PURCHASE ORDER WITH, I EXISTING PURCHASE ORDER WITH, I WON'T SAY THIS RIGHT WITH WON'T SAY THIS RIGHT WITH MECHANIK, NUCCIO, HEARNE, AND MECHANIK, NUCCIO, HEARNE, AND WESTER FOR SPECIALIZED LEGAL WESTER FOR SPECIALIZED LEGAL SERVICES RELATED TO THE SALE AND SERVICES RELATED TO THE SALE AND DISPOSITION OF THE COCA-COLA DISPOSITION OF THE COCA-COLA COKE PARCEL IN DUNEDIN FOR A COKE PARCEL IN DUNEDIN FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $75,000. TOTAL AMOUNT OF $75,000. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS ANYONE ARE THERE ANY ITEMS ANYONE WISHES TO PULL, PLEASE? WISHES TO PULL, PLEASE? >> ITEM 2C, PLEASE. >> ITEM 2C, PLEASE. >> ITEM 2C, PLEASE. >> >> ITEM 2C, PLEASE. >> MAYOR >> ITEM 2C, PLEASE. >> MAYOR FREANEY: >> ITEM 2C, PLEASE. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, >> ITEM 2C, PLEASE. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, ITEM >> ITEM 2C, PLEASE. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, ITEM 2C. >> OKAY, ITEM 2C. >> OKAY, ITEM 2C. ANY >> OKAY, ITEM 2C. ANY OTHER >> OKAY, ITEM 2C. ANY OTHER ITEMS >> OKAY, ITEM 2C. ANY OTHER ITEMS TO >> OKAY, ITEM 2C. ANY OTHER ITEMS TO PULL? ANY OTHER ITEMS TO PULL? SEEING NONE, IF I COULD GET A SEEING NONE, IF I COULD GET A MOTION TO APPROVE 2A. AND 2B. MOTION TO APPROVE 2A. AND 2B. >> SO MOVED. >> SO MOVED. >> SO MOVED. >> >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> >> SECOND. >> MAYOR >> SECOND. >> MAYOR FREANEY: >> SECOND. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, >> SECOND. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, SOY >> SECOND. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, SOY WE >> OKAY, SOY WE >> OKAY, SOY WE HAVE >> OKAY, SOY WE HAVE A >> OKAY, SOY WE HAVE A MOTION >> OKAY, SOY WE HAVE A MOTION AND >> OKAY, SOY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A >> OKAY, SOY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND I'LL ASK IS THERE ANY PUBLIC AND I'LL ASK IS THERE ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON THE CONSENT ITEMS? INPUT ON THE CONSENT ITEMS? OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THAT AND ALL IN FAVOR? THAT AND ALL IN FAVOR? AND ANY OPPOSED? AND ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. OKAY. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT -- AND WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT -- WE'LL GO BACK TO 2C, OKAY, SO WE'LL GO BACK TO 2C, OKAY, SO COMMISSIONER, DID YOU WANT A COMMISSIONER, DID YOU WANT A FULL PRESENTATION, OR JUST SOME FULL PRESENTATION, OR JUST SOME QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT IF >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT IF WE >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT IF WE COULD >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT IF WE COULD JUST >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT IF WE COULD JUST GET >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT IF WE COULD JUST GET A >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT IF WE COULD JUST GET A SUMMARY IF WE COULD JUST GET A SUMMARY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, I FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, I DO BELIEVE THIS IS A, THIS IS A DO BELIEVE THIS IS A, THIS IS A GOOD NEWS STORY HERE. GOOD NEWS STORY HERE. >> YES, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, >> YES, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, >> YES, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE >> YES, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, >> YES, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. YEAH, THE ITEM YOU HAVE BEFORE YEAH, THE ITEM YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS TO APPROVE AN INCREASE TO YOU IS TO APPROVE AN INCREASE TO AN EXISTING PURCHASE ORDER THAT AN EXISTING PURCHASE ORDER THAT WE'VE ISSUED TO MECHANIK, WE'VE ISSUED TO MECHANIK, NUCCIO, HEARNE, AND WESTER. NUCCIO, HEARNE, AND WESTER. I'M JUST GOING TO CALL THEM MNH I'M JUST GOING TO CALL THEM MNH & W FROM NOW ON TO PROVIDE & W FROM NOW ON TO PROVIDE SPECIALIZED ENVIRONMENTAL LEGAL SPECIALIZED ENVIRONMENTAL LEGAL SERVICES. SERVICES. BACK IN MAY I BELIEVE OF THIS BACK IN MAY I BELIEVE OF THIS PAST YEAR, WE RECEIVED A LETTER PAST YEAR, WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM HOLLAND & KNIGHT WHICH IS FROM HOLLAND & KNIGHT WHICH IS COCA-COLA'S ATTORNEYS INDICATING COCA-COLA'S ATTORNEYS INDICATING THAT THEY HAD APPLIED TO THE THAT THEY HAD APPLIED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION FOR A CLOSURE NOTICE PROTECTION FOR A CLOSURE NOTICE FOR THE SALE OF THEIR PARCEL. FOR THE SALE OF THEIR PARCEL. THEY WANT TO GET IT'S CALLED A THEY WANT TO GET IT'S CALLED A CSRCO, A CONDITIONAL SITE CSRCO, A CONDITIONAL SITE REHABILITATION CLOSURE ORDER, REHABILITATION CLOSURE ORDER, AND SO THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO AND SO THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO NOTIFY ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTY NOTIFY ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS OF THEIR INTENT TO DO OWNERS OF THEIR INTENT TO DO THAT. THAT. AND ESSENTIALLY IT ALLOWS FOR AND ESSENTIALLY IT ALLOWS FOR WHAT ARE CALLED INSTITUTIONAL OR WHAT ARE CALLED INSTITUTIONAL OR ENGINEERING CONTROLS THAT ARE ENGINEERING CONTROLS THAT ARE PLACE ON A PARCEL IN ORDER TO PLACE ON A PARCEL IN ORDER TO KIND OF GET A CLEAN BILL OF SALE KIND OF GET A CLEAN BILL OF SALE SO THAT THEY CAN PROCEED WITH SO THAT THEY CAN PROCEED WITH THE SALE OF THEIR PARCEL. THE SALE OF THEIR PARCEL. IN RECEIPT OF THAT LETTER, I IN RECEIPT OF THAT LETTER, I BELIEVE WE WERE GIVING EITHER 30 BELIEVE WE WERE GIVING EITHER 30 OR 60 DAYS TO RESPOND TO THE OR 60 DAYS TO RESPOND TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, WHICH IS THE ONE PROTECTION, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT WOULD ISSUE THAT NOTICE. THAT WOULD ISSUE THAT NOTICE. AND SO WE HAD REACHED OUT TO BMO AND SO WE HAD REACHED OUT TO BMO AT THAT TIME AND ALSO THROUGH AT THAT TIME AND ALSO THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO SEE IF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO SEE IF WE COULD CONTACT A LEGAL FIRM WE COULD CONTACT A LEGAL FIRM THAT SPECIALIZES IN THOSE TYPE THAT SPECIALIZES IN THOSE TYPE OF NEGOTIATIONS SO THAT WE COULD OF NEGOTIATIONS SO THAT WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY'S MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY'S INTERESTS WERE REPRESENTED INTERESTS WERE REPRESENTED BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD TO OBJECT FOR THE TIME PERIOD TO OBJECT FOR THE ISSUANCE OF THAT CSRCO TO DEP. ISSUANCE OF THAT CSRCO TO DEP. SO WE ENGAGED THAT FIRM WITH THE SO WE ENGAGED THAT FIRM WITH THE LONG NAME THAT I MENTIONED LONG NAME THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, TO PROVIDE THOSE EARLIER, TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. SERVICES. INITIALLY IT WAS INITIALLY IT WAS $10,000 AUTHORIZATION TO $10,000 AUTHORIZATION TO BASICALLY GET INTO THE FILES AND BASICALLY GET INTO THE FILES AND DETERMINE WHAT INFORMATION WAS DETERMINE WHAT INFORMATION WAS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO RESPOND TO NECESSARY IN ORDER TO RESPOND TO THE DEP AND COCA-COLA, AND THE DEP AND COCA-COLA, AND THROUGH THE COURSE OF THAT, WE THROUGH THE COURSE OF THAT, WE STARTED NEGOTIATING ACTUALLY STARTED NEGOTIATING ACTUALLY THROUGH THAT FIRM BMO OUR STAFF, THROUGH THAT FIRM BMO OUR STAFF, AND COCA-COLA ON THE POTENTIAL AND COCA-COLA ON THE POTENTIAL DONATION OF A PARCEL, AND IF I DONATION OF A PARCEL, AND IF I CAN SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT HOW TO CAN SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THAT UP ON THE SCREEN, I'LL GET THAT UP ON THE SCREEN, I'LL SHOW YOU THAT. SHOW YOU THAT. DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GET IT UP DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GET IT UP THERE? THERE? NOPE. NOPE. ANYBODY? ANYBODY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAGIC. MAGIC. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] SO THIS KIND OF SHOWS THE SO THIS KIND OF SHOWS THE OVERALL AND SO I APOLOGIZE FOR OVERALL AND SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THE QUALITY OF THE EXHIBIT, BUT THE QUALITY OF THE EXHIBIT, BUT THIS KIND OF SHOWS THE OVERALL THIS KIND OF SHOWS THE OVERALL COCA-COLA PARCEL AND THEN COCA-COLA PARCEL AND THEN OUTLINED IN RED IS A PORTION OF OUTLINED IN RED IS A PORTION OF THE PARCEL THAT'S IMMEDIATELY THE PARCEL THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE WASTEWATER ADJACENT TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. TREATMENT PLANT. AND WHEN YOU SEEK A CSRCO, SOME AND WHEN YOU SEEK A CSRCO, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE -- WHEN I OF THE THINGS THAT WE -- WHEN I WORKED AT THE COUNTY, AT THE WORKED AT THE COUNTY, AT THE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS BUILDING, EMERGENCY RESPONDERS BUILDING, THERE WERE SOME ISSUES ON THAT THERE WERE SOME ISSUES ON THAT SIDE SITE, AND IN ORDER TO SIDE SITE, AND IN ORDER TO DEVELOP IT WHAT WE DID WAS DEVELOP IT WHAT WE DID WAS INSTALLED INSTITUTIONAL INSTALLED INSTITUTIONAL CONTROLS, WHICH WAS, WE CONTROLS, WHICH WAS, WE GUARANTEED THAT IT WOULD ALWAYS GUARANTEED THAT IT WOULD ALWAYS STAY IN PUBLIC DOMAIN. STAY IN PUBLIC DOMAIN. IT WOULDN'T BE SOLD OFF TO ANY IT WOULDN'T BE SOLD OFF TO ANY PRIVATE ENTITY. PRIVATE ENTITY. THEY WERE ALSO, WE CAPPED THE THEY WERE ALSO, WE CAPPED THE SITE BY ACTUALLY PLACING A BUILD SITE BY ACTUALLY PLACING A BUILD I I NG ON IT. NG ON IT. SO IN THIS REGARD, VERY LIMITED SO IN THIS REGARD, VERY LIMITED ON LAND IN THE CITY TO EXPAND ON LAND IN THE CITY TO EXPAND OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT SO THIS IS, THIS ADJACENT PARCEL SO THIS IS, THIS ADJACENT PARCEL IS MAYBE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT IS MAYBE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NOT BE ALL THAT ATTRACTIVE TO A NOT BE ALL THAT ATTRACTIVE TO A DEVELOPER IN THE FUTURE EVEN DEVELOPER IN THE FUTURE EVEN THOUGH THERE IS SOME THOUGH THERE IS SOME INSTITUTIONAL CONTROLS, INSTITUTIONAL CONTROLS, ENGINEERING CONTROLS THAT WOULD ENGINEERING CONTROLS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT IN PLACE, IT HAVE TO BE PUT IN PLACE, IT ALLOWS US TO EXPAND OUR ALLOWS US TO EXPAND OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN THE FUTURE. THE FUTURE. SO WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING BACK SO WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING BACK AND FORTH THROUGH THIS FIRM, AND AND FORTH THROUGH THIS FIRM, AND COCA-COLA AND BMO'S ASSISTANCE COCA-COLA AND BMO'S ASSISTANCE AND JENNIFER AND MARK, I CAN'T AND JENNIFER AND MARK, I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS LAST NAME, TO COME REMEMBER HIS LAST NAME, TO COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT FOR THE UP WITH AN AGREEMENT FOR THE DONATION OF THIS PARCEL IN DONATION OF THIS PARCEL IN ADDITION TO THE LAND THERE'S ADDITION TO THE LAND THERE'S ALSO SOME EQUIPMENT ON THE SITE. ALSO SOME EQUIPMENT ON THE SITE. THERE'S A GENERATOR AND A FEW THERE'S A GENERATOR AND A FEW OTHER PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT OTHER PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN AS WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN AS A PART OF THE DONATION, BUT A PART OF THE DONATION, BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS FIRM IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS FIRM IS DOING IS PROTECTING OUR DOING IS PROTECTING OUR INTERESTS, MAKING SURE THAT WE INTERESTS, MAKING SURE THAT WE GO IN EYES WIDE OPEN FOR GO IN EYES WIDE OPEN FOR ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT LAND DONATION, AND THEN ALSO LAND DONATION, AND THEN ALSO ONCE THEY DO THAT, THERE'S ONCE THEY DO THAT, THERE'S DEMOLITION THAT'S ASSOCIATED DEMOLITION THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH TURNING THE PARCEL OVER TO WITH TURNING THE PARCEL OVER TO THE CITY SO THAT'LL BE A FUTURE THE CITY SO THAT'LL BE A FUTURE AGREEMENT THAT WE BRING BEFORE AGREEMENT THAT WE BRING BEFORE THE COMMISSION SHOULD WE GET TO THE COMMISSION SHOULD WE GET TO THAT POINT. THAT POINT. AND THEN THEY WOULD MARK IT TO AND THEN THEY WOULD MARK IT TO THE REMAINDER OF THE PARCEL FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PARCEL FOR SALE TO THE PRIVATE DEVELOPER. SALE TO THE PRIVATE DEVELOPER. >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT JUST, >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT JUST, AND >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT JUST, AND JUST >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT JUST, AND JUST TO >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT JUST, AND JUST TO KIND >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT JUST, AND JUST TO KIND OF IT JUST, AND JUST TO KIND OF PARAPHRASE, SO MY UNDERSTANDING, PARAPHRASE, SO MY UNDERSTANDING, BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN I WALKED BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN I WALKED THROUGH THE WASTE TREATMENT THROUGH THE WASTE TREATMENT PLANT, AND THERE'S DISCUSSION PLANT, AND THERE'S DISCUSSION WITH REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, THE WITH REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS, RIGHT? LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS, RIGHT? SO THIS IS THE PARAPHRASED PART. SO THIS IS THE PARAPHRASED PART. SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP REALLY SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP REALLY IN ADVANCE OF THE ACTUAL IN ADVANCE OF THE ACTUAL DONATION OF THE PARCEL TO THE DONATION OF THE PARCEL TO THE CITY. CITY. >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, I >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, I >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, DEFER >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, DEFER TO >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, DEFER TO JENNIFER >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, DEFER TO JENNIFER TO >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, DEFER TO JENNIFER TO HELP MEAN, DEFER TO JENNIFER TO HELP ME OUT HERE A LITTLE BIT ON THE ME OUT HERE A LITTLE BIT ON THE LEGALESE INVOLVED, BUT LEGALESE INVOLVED, BUT ESSENTIALLY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ESSENTIALLY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR INTERESTS ARE THAT OUR INTERESTS ARE PROTECTED, NOT ONLY WITH THIS PROTECTED, NOT ONLY WITH THIS LAND DONATION BUT THE ADJACENT LAND DONATION BUT THE ADJACENT PARCEL WHICH IS WEAVER PARK. PARCEL WHICH IS WEAVER PARK. ANY CONTROLS THAT WOULD BE ANY CONTROLS THAT WOULD BE PLACED ON THAT PARCEL AS A PART PLACED ON THAT PARCEL AS A PART OF ISSUING THIS CSRCO, SO THIS OF ISSUING THIS CSRCO, SO THIS FIRM SPECIALIZES IN THOSE TYPES FIRM SPECIALIZES IN THOSE TYPES OF NEGOTIATIONS, SO THAT'S WHY OF NEGOTIATIONS, SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT TO THEM WITH BMO'S WE WENT TO THEM WITH BMO'S SUGGESTION AND ADVICE. SUGGESTION AND ADVICE. >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING TO >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING TO A >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING TO A MUCH >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING TO A MUCH LARGER >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING TO A MUCH LARGER SCOPE >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING TO A MUCH LARGER SCOPE HERE >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING TO A MUCH LARGER SCOPE HERE THAN TO A MUCH LARGER SCOPE HERE THAN JUST THE AGREEMENT, BUT ANYWAY, JUST THE AGREEMENT, BUT ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANKS. THANKS. >> MAYOR FREANEY: GOOD. >> GOOD. >> GOOD. ANYBODY >> GOOD. ANYBODY ELSE >> GOOD. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE >> GOOD. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY >> GOOD. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR? VICE MAYOR? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY MUCH. VERY MUCH. JORGE, JUST OUTSIDE THAT HEAD JORGE, JUST OUTSIDE THAT HEAD AREA TO THE WEST -- RED AREA TO AREA TO THE WEST -- RED AREA TO THE WEST , IS THAT A RETENTION THE WEST , IS THAT A RETENTION POND? POND? >> YES. >> YES. >> YES. >> >> YES. >> AND >> YES. >> AND HAVE >> YES. >> AND HAVE WE >> YES. >> AND HAVE WE EVER >> YES. >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN >> YES. >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT >> YES. >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT ANY >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT ANY >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT ANY THOUGHT >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT ANY THOUGHT IF >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT ANY THOUGHT IF WE >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT ANY THOUGHT IF WE DON'T >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT ANY THOUGHT IF WE DON'T GET >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT ANY THOUGHT IF WE DON'T GET THIS THOUGHT IF WE DON'T GET THIS PROPERTY WHAT IN' OF WASTEWATER PROPERTY WHAT IN' OF WASTEWATER LOOKS -- WHAT THE FUTURE OF LOOKS -- WHAT THE FUTURE OF WASTEWATER LOOKS LIKE, WHAT WE WASTEWATER LOOKS LIKE, WHAT WE WOULD DO? WOULD DO? >> WELL, YEAH. >> WELL, YEAH. >> WELL, YEAH. WE'VE >> WELL, YEAH. WE'VE GIVEN >> WELL, YEAH. WE'VE GIVEN THAT >> WELL, YEAH. WE'VE GIVEN THAT A >> WELL, YEAH. WE'VE GIVEN THAT A LOT >> WELL, YEAH. WE'VE GIVEN THAT A LOT OF WE'VE GIVEN THAT A LOT OF THOUGHT. THOUGHT. IT ALLOWS US -- IT ALLOWS US -- >> NO EXTRA RECLAIMED,. >> NO EXTRA RECLAIMED,. >> NO EXTRA RECLAIMED,. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] >> IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY >> IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY >> IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND >> IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND THE >> IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND THE PLANT, >> IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND THE PLANT, MODIFY >> IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND THE PLANT, MODIFY THE >> IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND THE PLANT, MODIFY THE WAY EXPAND THE PLANT, MODIFY THE WAY THAT -- I'LL LET NAN JUMP IN BUT THAT -- I'LL LET NAN JUMP IN BUT WE DO LAND APPLICATION FOR WE DO LAND APPLICATION FOR SLUDGE OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. SLUDGE OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. WE CONTRACT FOR THAT. WE CONTRACT FOR THAT. SO THIS ALLOWS US TO EXPAND THE SO THIS ALLOWS US TO EXPAND THE PLANT AND YOU KNOW, POSTURE PLANT AND YOU KNOW, POSTURE OURSELVES FOR THE FUTURE. OURSELVES FOR THE FUTURE. WE DON'T SEE THE CITY EXPANDING WE DON'T SEE THE CITY EXPANDING AS FAR AS USAGE, BUT THERE IS AS FAR AS USAGE, BUT THERE IS REDEVELOPMENT WHICH YOU KNOW WE REDEVELOPMENT WHICH YOU KNOW WE HAVE INCREASED LOADS BECAUSE YOU HAVE INCREASED LOADS BECAUSE YOU TAKE PARCELS THAT HAVE ONE OR TAKE PARCELS THAT HAVE ONE OR TWO DWELLINGS ON IT AND THEN IT TWO DWELLINGS ON IT AND THEN IT BECOMES MORE INTENSE TOWNHOMES BECOMES MORE INTENSE TOWNHOMES OR APARTMENTS ARE BUILT IN ITS OR APARTMENTS ARE BUILT IN ITS PLACE SO YOU GENERATE ADDITIONAL PLACE SO YOU GENERATE ADDITIONAL FLOWS BECAUSE THE CITY ISN'T FLOWS BECAUSE THE CITY ISN'T GROWING. GROWING. >> NAN BENNETT, UTILITIES >> NAN BENNETT, UTILITIES >> NAN BENNETT, UTILITIES DIRECTOR. DIRECTOR. IN THE NEAR-TERM THE ACTUAL NEED IN THE NEAR-TERM THE ACTUAL NEED TO EXPAND THE TREATMENT CAPACITY TO EXPAND THE TREATMENT CAPACITY IS NOT SOMETHING WE FORESEE IS NOT SOMETHING WE FORESEE BECAUSE LIKE JORGE SAID YOU KNOW BECAUSE LIKE JORGE SAID YOU KNOW WE HAVE EXCESS CAPACITY AND THE WE HAVE EXCESS CAPACITY AND THE PLANT IS IN GOOD OPERATING PLANT IS IN GOOD OPERATING CONDITION. CONDITION. HOWEVER WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET HOWEVER WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET BY WITH VERY LIMITED BIOSOLIDS BY WITH VERY LIMITED BIOSOLIDS TREATMENT WHICH IS THE SOLID TREATMENT WHICH IS THE SOLID PORTION OF WASTEWATER TREATMENT. PORTION OF WASTEWATER TREATMENT. RIGHT NOW WE TRUCK OUT THE RIGHT NOW WE TRUCK OUT THE LIQUID BIOSOLIDS AND WITH LIQUID BIOSOLIDS AND WITH MINIMAL A ROBIC DIGESTION THE MINIMAL A ROBIC DIGESTION THE COUNTY IS LOOKING FOR A REGIONAL COUNTY IS LOOKING FOR A REGIONAL SOLUTION. SOLUTION. WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW IF NOT THE WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW IF NOT THE ONLY UTILITY THAT STILL HAS ONLY UTILITY THAT STILL HAS LIQUID BIOSOLIDS SO WE MAY NEED LIQUID BIOSOLIDS SO WE MAY NEED TO DEWATER. TO DEWATER. THAT WOULD SAVE ON TRUCKING THAT WOULD SAVE ON TRUCKING COSTS TO TAKE THOSE BIOSOLIDS TO COSTS TO TAKE THOSE BIOSOLIDS TO ANOTHER FACILITY. ANOTHER FACILITY. OBVIOUSLY IT COSTS A LOT OF OBVIOUSLY IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY JUST TO HAUL THE WATER. MONEY JUST TO HAUL THE WATER. THEN SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE TO THEN SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THE WATER OFF. TAKE THE WATER OFF. SO MOST OTHER PLANTS HAVE SOME SO MOST OTHER PLANTS HAVE SOME AMOUNT OF DEWATERING ON THEIR AMOUNT OF DEWATERING ON THEIR BIOSOLIDS TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT BIOSOLIDS TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT THEY HAVE TO TRUCK OUT. THEY HAVE TO TRUCK OUT. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT WORK ECONOMICALLY TO OUR BENEFIT WORK ECONOMICALLY TO OUR BENEFIT TO DATE, BUT WE DON'T SEE THAT TO DATE, BUT WE DON'T SEE THAT GOING ON INTO THE FUTURE GOING ON INTO THE FUTURE FOREVER. FOREVER. THE OTHER THING THAT'S AN THE OTHER THING THAT'S AN UNKNOWN IS THAT SENATE BILL 64 UNKNOWN IS THAT SENATE BILL 64 FROM A COUPLE YEARS BACK I THINK FROM A COUPLE YEARS BACK I THINK IT WAS 2022, HAS DICTATED THAT IT WAS 2022, HAS DICTATED THAT WE NO LONGER DISCHARGE THE WE NO LONGER DISCHARGE THE LICKBED PORTION OF WASTEWATER LICKBED PORTION OF WASTEWATER OUT TO THE SOUND SO WE WILL NEED OUT TO THE SOUND SO WE WILL NEED MORE RECAIMED WATER STORAGE AND MORE RECAIMED WATER STORAGE AND MORE ABILITY TO DEAL WITH THE MORE ABILITY TO DEAL WITH THE LIQUID PORTION. LIQUID PORTION. SO SO THE PLANT IS LANDLOCKED SO SO THE PLANT IS LANDLOCKED AND PRETTY BUILT OUT. AND PRETTY BUILT OUT. WHEN YOU GO THERE, I KNOW A WHEN YOU GO THERE, I KNOW A COUPLE OF YOU ARE SCHEDULED TO COUPLE OF YOU ARE SCHEDULED TO GO IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, GO IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO GO. GO. THIS IS THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO THIS IS THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND, SO IT'S A GOOD EXPAND, SO IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE WASTE. OPPORTUNITY FOR THE WASTE. >> AND FOR A LITTLE HISTORICAL >> AND FOR A LITTLE HISTORICAL >> AND FOR A LITTLE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE >> AND FOR A LITTLE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE FOR >> AND FOR A LITTLE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE FOR SOME >> AND FOR A LITTLE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE FOR SOME OF >> AND FOR A LITTLE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE FOR SOME OF THE PERSPECTIVE FOR SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE DAIS LONG, IMMEDIATELY TO ON THE DAIS LONG, IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF THE WASTEWATER THE SOUTH OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, I THINK YOU CAN TREATMENT PLANT, I THINK YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT IN THE SECONDARY KIND OF SEE IT IN THE SECONDARY AERIAL, IT WAS A PARCEL ACTUALLY AERIAL, IT WAS A PARCEL ACTUALLY OWNED BY WASTEWATER IN THE PAST, OWNED BY WASTEWATER IN THE PAST, AND IT WAS TURNED OVER TO ALLOW AND IT WAS TURNED OVER TO ALLOW FOR AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, ECOVILLAGE, SO THAT WAS PROJECT, ECOVILLAGE, SO THAT WAS LAND THAT HAD BEEN SET ASIDE TO LAND THAT HAD BEEN SET ASIDE TO EXPAND THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT EXPAND THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN THE FUTURE. PLANT IN THE FUTURE. IT WAS UTILIZED FOR DIFFERENT IT WAS UTILIZED FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSE OBVIOUSLY, SO THE FACT PURPOSE OBVIOUSLY, SO THE FACT THAT WE NOW HAVE THE ABILITY TO THAT WE NOW HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THIS ADJACENT PARCEL TO HAVE THIS ADJACENT PARCEL TO EXPAND THE PLANT WHERE THAT EXPAND THE PLANT WHERE THAT PROPERTY WAS USED FOR ECONOMIC PROPERTY WAS USED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES, AFFORDABLE DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ALLOWS US TO THEN KIND HOUSING, ALLOWS US TO THEN KIND OF MAKE UP SOME OF THAT LAND OF MAKE UP SOME OF THAT LAND THAT WAS OBLIGATED FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS OBLIGATED FOR SOMETHING ELSE. ELSE. >> MAYOR? >> MAYOR? >> MAYOR? MAY >> MAYOR? MAY I >> MAYOR? MAY I ADD >> MAYOR? MAY I ADD SOMETHING? MAY I ADD SOMETHING? >> SURE. >> SURE. >> SURE. >> >> SURE. >> THANK >> SURE. >> THANK YOU >> SURE. >> THANK YOU VERY >> SURE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO, >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO, I >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO, I DO >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO, I DO WANT >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO, I DO WANT TO >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO, I DO WANT TO PINPOINT >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO, I DO WANT TO PINPOINT THAT I DO, I DO WANT TO PINPOINT THAT AS NAN HAD SAID, OUR LEVEL OF AS NAN HAD SAID, OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR WASTEWATER IS WHERE SERVICE FOR WASTEWATER IS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. IT NEEDS TO BE. THIS, WE DON'T, THIS IS NOT A THIS, WE DON'T, THIS IS NOT A MUST-HAVE IN THOSE TERMS. MUST-HAVE IN THOSE TERMS. FOR FUTURE PLANNING PURPOSES, FOR FUTURE PLANNING PURPOSES, THIS IS, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THIS IS, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US, IT IS A DONATION FROM FOR US, IT IS A DONATION FROM COCA-COLA, AND WHAT WE'RE COCA-COLA, AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, THIS PARTICULAR LOOKING AT HERE, THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM IS THE LEGAL AGENDA ITEM IS THE LEGAL SERVICES TO ENSURE OUR SERVICES TO ENSURE OUR INTERESTESS ARE IN TACT AS A INTERESTESS ARE IN TACT AS A RESULT OF THAT DONATION. RESULT OF THAT DONATION. SO COCA-COLA HAS BEEN A GOOD SO COCA-COLA HAS BEEN A GOOD PARTNER WORKING WITH US ALL PARTNER WORKING WITH US ALL ALONG, AND AS I SAID, THIS IS AN ALONG, AND AS I SAID, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY THAT WE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY THAT WE ARE JUMPING ON RIGHT NOW. ARE JUMPING ON RIGHT NOW. >> GOOD, THANK YOU. >> GOOD, THANK YOU. >> GOOD, THANK YOU. THAT'S >> GOOD, THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD >> GOOD, THANK YOU. THAT'S GOOD CLARIFICATION. THAT'S GOOD CLARIFICATION. >> THAT IS A GOOD CLARIFICATION, >> THAT IS A GOOD CLARIFICATION, >> THAT IS A GOOD CLARIFICATION, AND >> THAT IS A GOOD CLARIFICATION, AND WITH >> THAT IS A GOOD CLARIFICATION, AND WITH THAT >> THAT IS A GOOD CLARIFICATION, AND WITH THAT THE >> THAT IS A GOOD CLARIFICATION, AND WITH THAT THE SENATE >> THAT IS A GOOD CLARIFICATION, AND WITH THAT THE SENATE BILL, AND WITH THAT THE SENATE BILL, FROM 2022, IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET FROM 2022, IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET THIS PROPERTY AND BUILD MORE THIS PROPERTY AND BUILD MORE STORAGE FOR RECLAIMED WATER, STORAGE FOR RECLAIMED WATER, COULD WE GET TO A POINT EVEN COULD WE GET TO A POINT EVEN WITH THAT THAT WE STILL HAVE TOO WITH THAT THAT WE STILL HAVE TOO MUCH RECLAIMED WATER IN CERTAIN MUCH RECLAIMED WATER IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE YEAR? PARTS OF THE YEAR? >> WITH THE AMOUNT OF RAIN THAT >> WITH THE AMOUNT OF RAIN THAT >> WITH THE AMOUNT OF RAIN THAT WE >> WITH THE AMOUNT OF RAIN THAT WE HAVE >> WITH THE AMOUNT OF RAIN THAT WE HAVE IN >> WITH THE AMOUNT OF RAIN THAT WE HAVE IN FLORIDA, >> WITH THE AMOUNT OF RAIN THAT WE HAVE IN FLORIDA, WE >> WITH THE AMOUNT OF RAIN THAT WE HAVE IN FLORIDA, WE PROBABLY WE HAVE IN FLORIDA, WE PROBABLY ALWAYS WILL HAVE LIKE DURING, ALWAYS WILL HAVE LIKE DURING, DURING A TROPCOCK STORM, WE'LL DURING A TROPCOCK STORM, WE'LL ALWAYS -- TROPICAL STORM WE'LL ALWAYS -- TROPICAL STORM WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE TOO MUCH RECLAIMED ALWAYS HAVE TOO MUCH RECLAIMED WATER AT SOME POINT. WATER AT SOME POINT. PEOPLE DON'T IRRIGATE THEIR PEOPLE DON'T IRRIGATE THEIR LAWNS DURING EXTREMELY RAINY LAWNS DURING EXTREMELY RAINY EVENTS, BUT SENATE BILL 64 EVENTS, BUT SENATE BILL 64 ALLOWS FOR A SMALL WET WEATHER ALLOWS FOR A SMALL WET WEATHER DISCHARGE. DISCHARGE. THEY SAY ZERO SURFACE DISCHARGE THEY SAY ZERO SURFACE DISCHARGE BUT THERE IS AN ALLOWANCE FOR A BUT THERE IS AN ALLOWANCE FOR A 10% DISCHARGE DURING RAINY 10% DISCHARGE DURING RAINY WEATHER. WEATHER. THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THE WAY RAIN WORKS IN FLORIDA, AND WAY RAIN WORKS IN FLORIDA, AND YOU CAN'T GET RID OF IT 100% YOU CAN'T GET RID OF IT 100% BENEFICIALLY. BENEFICIALLY. BUT THAT WE'RE MAKING EVERY BUT THAT WE'RE MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO DO SO. EFFORT TO DO SO. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. >> >> OKAY. >> AND >> OKAY. >> AND AN >> OKAY. >> AND AN ADDITIONAL >> OKAY. >> AND AN ADDITIONAL TRIP >> OKAY. >> AND AN ADDITIONAL TRIP DOWN >> AND AN ADDITIONAL TRIP DOWN >> AND AN ADDITIONAL TRIP DOWN MEMORY >> AND AN ADDITIONAL TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE, >> AND AN ADDITIONAL TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE, BACK >> AND AN ADDITIONAL TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE, BACK IN >> AND AN ADDITIONAL TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE, BACK IN 2014-2015 MEMORY LANE, BACK IN 2014-2015 IF I RECALL, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT IF I RECALL, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AERIAL WITH THE RED OUTLINE AERIAL WITH THE RED OUTLINE IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST YOU'LL IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST YOU'LL SEE KIND OF A ROUND, THAT'S THE SEE KIND OF A ROUND, THAT'S THE RECLAIMED TANK THAT WE RECLAIMED TANK THAT WE ACTUALLY -- IT WAS A TRI-PARTY ACTUALLY -- IT WAS A TRI-PARTY AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY, AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY, COCA-COLA, AND SWFWMD. COCA-COLA, AND SWFWMD. WE GOT A GRANT TO BUILD A WE GOT A GRANT TO BUILD A RECLAIMED WATER TANK ON THAT RECLAIMED WATER TANK ON THAT PARCELS AND THAT LAND PARCEL WAS PARCELS AND THAT LAND PARCEL WAS DONATED BY COCA-COLA TO THE CITY DONATED BY COCA-COLA TO THE CITY BACK IN 2014 IF I RECALL. BACK IN 2014 IF I RECALL. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. AND >> OKAY. AND HAVE >> OKAY. AND HAVE WE >> OKAY. AND HAVE WE DONE >> OKAY. AND HAVE WE DONE ANY >> OKAY. AND HAVE WE DONE ANY OVERLAY >> OKAY. AND HAVE WE DONE ANY OVERLAY AS AND HAVE WE DONE ANY OVERLAY AS FAR AS THE FLOOD PLAIN GOES TO, FAR AS THE FLOOD PLAIN GOES TO, I KNOW THAT WE'VE SEEN PICTURES I KNOW THAT WE'VE SEEN PICTURES TO WHERE JUST NORTH OF THE TO WHERE JUST NORTH OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, FOR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT SEEMS TO BE WHATEVER REASON, IT SEEMS TO BE NATURALLY PROTECTED, AND JUST NATURALLY PROTECTED, AND JUST NOFERGHT THAT IF REALLY COMES -- NOFERGHT THAT IF REALLY COMES -- NORTH OF THAT, IT REALLY COMES. NORTH OF THAT, IT REALLY COMES. AND I WOULD JUST SEEN IT LATELY AND I WOULD JUST SEEN IT LATELY SO HAVE WE DONE ANYTHING? SO HAVE WE DONE ANYTHING? HOW MUCH OF THAT FLOOD PLAIN HOW MUCH OF THAT FLOOD PLAIN WITH SEA LEVEL RISE IS GOING TO WITH SEA LEVEL RISE IS GOING TO COVER THAT PROPERTY? COVER THAT PROPERTY? >> I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, AND >> I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, AND >> I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, AND THERE >> I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, AND THERE IS >> I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, AND THERE IS A >> I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, AND THERE IS A GOOD >> I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, AND THERE IS A GOOD PORTION >> I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, AND THERE IS A GOOD PORTION OF >> I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS, AND THERE IS A GOOD PORTION OF IT THERE IS A GOOD PORTION OF IT THAT IS WITHIN THE 100-YEAR THAT IS WITHIN THE 100-YEAR FLOOD PLAIN BUT THERE ARE WAYS FLOOD PLAIN BUT THERE ARE WAYS TO FLOOD PROOF AND PROTECT TO FLOOD PROOF AND PROTECT PARTICULARLY FOR THE TYPE OF PARTICULARLY FOR THE TYPE OF FACILITIES THAT WE'RE TALKING FACILITIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST, YOU ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST, YOU JUST GET THEM UP OUT OF THE JUST GET THEM UP OUT OF THE FLOOD PLAIN AND THEY CAN FLOOD PLAIN AND THEY CAN INTERMITTENTLY IN A REAL SEVERE INTERMITTENTLY IN A REAL SEVERE EVENT FLOOD AS LONG AS THERE'S EVENT FLOOD AS LONG AS THERE'S IT RECEDES AND THEN THAT'S THAT. IT RECEDES AND THEN THAT'S THAT. ESPECIALLY LIKE A RE CLAIMED ESPECIALLY LIKE A RE CLAIMED WATER TANK. WATER TANK. >> MOST OF THE RECLAIMED WATERS >> MOST OF THE RECLAIMED WATERS >> MOST OF THE RECLAIMED WATERS ARE >> MOST OF THE RECLAIMED WATERS ARE ABOVE >> MOST OF THE RECLAIMED WATERS ARE ABOVE GROUND. ARE ABOVE GROUND. YOU HAVE THE RECLAIMED WATER YOU HAVE THE RECLAIMED WATER TANKS, YOU HAVE AERATION TANKS, TANKS, YOU HAVE AERATION TANKS, ALL OF THAT IS ABOVE GROUND ALL OF THAT IS ABOVE GROUND ANYWAY SO THE BIGGER ISSUE IS ANYWAY SO THE BIGGER ISSUE IS THE PARSE OF THE CITY THAT THE PARSE OF THE CITY THAT FLOOD -- PARTS OF THE CITY THAT FLOOD -- PARTS OF THE CITY THAT FLOOD. FLOOD. THE THOSE ARE THE ISSUES WE HAVE THE THOSE ARE THE ISSUES WE HAVE TO ADDRESS. TO ADDRESS. >> OKAY, AND THERE IS NO DOUBT >> OKAY, AND THERE IS NO DOUBT >> OKAY, AND THERE IS NO DOUBT OF >> OKAY, AND THERE IS NO DOUBT OF MY >> OKAY, AND THERE IS NO DOUBT OF MY DESIRE >> OKAY, AND THERE IS NO DOUBT OF MY DESIRE TO >> OKAY, AND THERE IS NO DOUBT OF MY DESIRE TO MOVE >> OKAY, AND THERE IS NO DOUBT OF MY DESIRE TO MOVE ALL OF MY DESIRE TO MOVE ALL COMBUSTION ENGINE CARS TO COMBUSTION ENGINE CARS TO ELECTRIC. ELECTRIC. BUT IN DOING THAT, I'LL STILL BUT IN DOING THAT, I'LL STILL SAY THAT IF EVERY CAR WERE TO SAY THAT IF EVERY CAR WERE TO BECOME ELECTRIC, WE WOULD STILL BECOME ELECTRIC, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TOO MANY CARS ON THE ROAD HAVE TOO MANY CARS ON THE ROAD SO A LOT OF IT IS CHANGING SO A LOT OF IT IS CHANGING BEHAVIOR AND THINGS OF THAT BEHAVIOR AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE WHERE THAT LIEWISE ME AND NATURE WHERE THAT LIEWISE ME AND THIS IS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE THIS IS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE ALWAYS USE TOO MUCH TOO MUCH WAD ALWAYS USE TOO MUCH TOO MUCH WAD I KNOW THE RECLAIMED WATER GIVES I KNOW THE RECLAIMED WATER GIVES THE RESIDENTS THE ABILITY TO THE RESIDENTS THE ABILITY TO WATER THEIR LAWNS NOT USING WATER THEIR LAWNS NOT USING POTABLE WATER. POTABLE WATER. IT STILL ALLOWS THEM TO DO WHAT IT STILL ALLOWS THEM TO DO WHAT THEY WANT AND WE STILL HAVE A THEY WANT AND WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF ST. AUGUSTINE GRASS. LOT OF ST. AUGUSTINE GRASS. WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING THINGS WITH THEIR YARDS DOING THINGS WITH THEIR YARDS THAT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE, IF THEY THAT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE, IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE WATER USAGE, DIDN'T HAVE THE WATER USAGE, THEY MIGHT BE ENCOURAGED, THEY THEY MIGHT BE ENCOURAGED, THEY WOULD BE INCENTED TO CHANGE THE WOULD BE INCENTED TO CHANGE THE WAY WE LANDSCAPE OUR YARDS AND WAY WE LANDSCAPE OUR YARDS AND CITY. CITY. AND SO THIS IS JUST TO ME AND SO THIS IS JUST TO ME INDUCED DEMAND, RIGHT? INDUCED DEMAND, RIGHT? YOU GIVE THEM MORE RECLAIMED YOU GIVE THEM MORE RECLAIMED WATER, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO DO WATER, THEY'RE STILL GOING TO DO THE SAME THING, YOU WIDEN THE THE SAME THING, YOU WIDEN THE ROAD, YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE ROAD, YOU'RE GOING TO GET MORE CARS SO IT'S A MATTER OF AT WHAT CARS SO IT'S A MATTER OF AT WHAT POINT DO COMMUNITIES HAVE TO POINT DO COMMUNITIES HAVE TO RETHINK THEIR THINKIN. RETHINK THEIR THINKIN. RIGHT, THAT IT'S NOT ABOUT JUST RIGHT, THAT IT'S NOT ABOUT JUST GIVING RESIDENTS EVERYTHING THEY GIVING RESIDENTS EVERYTHING THEY WANT BECAUSE IT'S NOT -- WANT BECAUSE IT'S NOT -- >> IS THIS A QUESTION OF STAFF >> IS THIS A QUESTION OF STAFF >> IS THIS A QUESTION OF STAFF THOUGH >> IS THIS A QUESTION OF STAFF THOUGH AT >> IS THIS A QUESTION OF STAFF THOUGH AT SOME >> IS THIS A QUESTION OF STAFF THOUGH AT SOME POINT? THOUGH AT SOME POINT? >> UM,. >> UM,. >> UM,. >> >> UM,. >> I'M >> UM,. >> I'M JUST >> UM,. >> I'M JUST ASKING. >> I'M JUST ASKING. >> I'M JUST ASKING. >> >> I'M JUST ASKING. >> IT >> I'M JUST ASKING. >> IT SOUNDS >> I'M JUST ASKING. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE >> I'M JUST ASKING. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE A >> I'M JUST ASKING. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE A CLOSING >> IT SOUNDS LIKE A CLOSING >> IT SOUNDS LIKE A CLOSING STATEMENT. STATEMENT. >> YES, IT IS. >> YES, IT IS. >> YES, IT IS. ANYWAY, >> YES, IT IS. ANYWAY, SO >> YES, IT IS. ANYWAY, SO NO >> YES, IT IS. ANYWAY, SO NO MORE >> YES, IT IS. ANYWAY, SO NO MORE QUESTIONS, ANYWAY, SO NO MORE QUESTIONS, THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] >> NONE TO START WITH. >> NONE TO START WITH. >> NONE TO START WITH. I >> NONE TO START WITH. I GOT >> NONE TO START WITH. I GOT SHUT >> NONE TO START WITH. I GOT SHUT DOWN >> NONE TO START WITH. I GOT SHUT DOWN AND >> NONE TO START WITH. I GOT SHUT DOWN AND YOU >> NONE TO START WITH. I GOT SHUT DOWN AND YOU DID >> NONE TO START WITH. I GOT SHUT DOWN AND YOU DID IT I GOT SHUT DOWN AND YOU DID IT SO POLITELY. SO POLITELY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. NOT >> OKAY. NOT THAT >> OKAY. NOT THAT I >> OKAY. NOT THAT I DON'T >> OKAY. NOT THAT I DON'T THINK >> OKAY. NOT THAT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE NOT THAT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE BRILLIANT COMMENTS. BRILLIANT COMMENTS. SO ANYWAY, COMMISSIONER SO ANYWAY, COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN? SANDBERGEN? COMMISSIONER -- YOU'VE ALREADY COMMISSIONER -- YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED, AND COMMISSIONER TOM. TALKED, AND COMMISSIONER TOM. >> HANK YOU, NO QUESTIONS, AND >> HANK YOU, NO QUESTIONS, AND >> HANK YOU, NO QUESTIONS, AND I >> HANK YOU, NO QUESTIONS, AND I SUPPORT >> HANK YOU, NO QUESTIONS, AND I SUPPORT THIS >> HANK YOU, NO QUESTIONS, AND I SUPPORT THIS ACT. I SUPPORT THIS ACT. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. AND >> OKAY. AND I >> OKAY. AND I DON'T >> OKAY. AND I DON'T HAVE >> OKAY. AND I DON'T HAVE ANY >> OKAY. AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS EITHER. EITHER. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY FINAL AND DO YOU HAVE ANY FINAL STATEMENT? STATEMENT? >> NO. >> NO. >> NO. >> >> NO. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. ANY >> OKAY. ANY FINAL >> OKAY. ANY FINAL STATEMENT? ANY FINAL STATEMENT? >> NO. >> NO. >> NO. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] >> COMMISSIONER SAND BERGEN? >> COMMISSIONER SAND BERGEN? >> COMMISSIONER SAND BERGEN? >> >> COMMISSIONER SAND BERGEN? >> APPARENTLY >> COMMISSIONER SAND BERGEN? >> APPARENTLY YOU >> COMMISSIONER SAND BERGEN? >> APPARENTLY YOU ALREADY >> COMMISSIONER SAND BERGEN? >> APPARENTLY YOU ALREADY DID. >> APPARENTLY YOU ALREADY DID. >> APPARENTLY YOU ALREADY DID. COMMISSIONER >> APPARENTLY YOU ALREADY DID. COMMISSIONER DUGARD? COMMISSIONER DUGARD? OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT, ALL IN FAVOR? OH, SORRY, HOLD ON. OH, SORRY, HOLD ON. HOLD ON, WE HAVE TO TAKE ANYBODY HOLD ON, WE HAVE TO TAKE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE. SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE. >> MAYOR, WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION >> MAYOR, WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION >> MAYOR, WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION YET. YET. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OH, YEAH, WE >> OH, YEAH, WE >> OH, YEAH, WE DON'T, >> OH, YEAH, WE DON'T, SORRY. DON'T, SORRY. >> I NOTICED THAT THE TOO. >> I NOTICED THAT THE TOO. >> I NOTICED THAT THE TOO. >> >> I NOTICED THAT THE TOO. >> MAYOR >> I NOTICED THAT THE TOO. >> MAYOR FREANEY: >> I NOTICED THAT THE TOO. >> MAYOR FREANEY: SEE >> I NOTICED THAT THE TOO. >> MAYOR FREANEY: SEE THE >> I NOTICED THAT THE TOO. >> MAYOR FREANEY: SEE THE I >> I NOTICED THAT THE TOO. >> MAYOR FREANEY: SEE THE I GOT >> SEE THE I GOT >> SEE THE I GOT SHUT >> SEE THE I GOT SHUT DOWN >> SEE THE I GOT SHUT DOWN TOO. SHUT DOWN TOO. >> SO MOVED. >> SO MOVED. >> SO MOVED. >> >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> >> SECOND. >> MAYOR >> SECOND. >> MAYOR FREANEY: >> SECOND. >> MAYOR FREANEY: SEE, >> SECOND. >> MAYOR FREANEY: SEE, YOU >> SECOND. >> MAYOR FREANEY: SEE, YOU THREW >> SEE, YOU THREW >> SEE, YOU THREW ME >> SEE, YOU THREW ME OFF >> SEE, YOU THREW ME OFF THERE, >> SEE, YOU THREW ME OFF THERE, JEFF. ME OFF THERE, JEFF. WHO WAS THE SECOND, STEVE? WHO WAS THE SECOND, STEVE? >> I'LL SECOND THAT, YES. >> I'LL SECOND THAT, YES. >> I'LL SECOND THAT, YES. >> >> I'LL SECOND THAT, YES. >> IT'S >> I'LL SECOND THAT, YES. >> IT'S A >> I'LL SECOND THAT, YES. >> IT'S A NEW >> I'LL SECOND THAT, YES. >> IT'S A NEW YEAR >> I'LL SECOND THAT, YES. >> IT'S A NEW YEAR AND >> I'LL SECOND THAT, YES. >> IT'S A NEW YEAR AND THERE'S >> IT'S A NEW YEAR AND THERE'S >> IT'S A NEW YEAR AND THERE'S PLENTY >> IT'S A NEW YEAR AND THERE'S PLENTY OF >> IT'S A NEW YEAR AND THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM >> IT'S A NEW YEAR AND THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR >> IT'S A NEW YEAR AND THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. PLENTY OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. NOW ASK IF ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC NOW ASK IF ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK WISHES TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE? TO THIS ISSUE? THERE WE GO, SEEING NO ONE, OKAY THERE WE GO, SEEING NO ONE, OKAY AND ALL IN FAVOR? AND ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY. OKAY. THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. I WAS JUST IN A HURRY TO GET IT I WAS JUST IN A HURRY TO GET IT OVER WITH SO THAT WE DIDN'T -- OVER WITH SO THAT WE DIDN'T -- [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] OKAY. OKAY. OKAY, PROPOSED AGENDA FOR OKAY, PROPOSED AGENDA FOR JANUARY 21st. JANUARY 21st. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES? ARE THERE ANY CHANGES? >> NO CHANGES BUT JUST A NOTE R >> NO CHANGES BUT JUST A NOTE R >> NO CHANGES BUT JUST A NOTE R QUESTION >> NO CHANGES BUT JUST A NOTE R QUESTION FOR >> NO CHANGES BUT JUST A NOTE R QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION. QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION. I NOTED THAT THE KIMLEY-HORN, I NOTED THAT THE KIMLEY-HORN, THE CONTRACT AWARD FOR THE THE CONTRACT AWARD FOR THE DESIGN SERVICES. DESIGN SERVICES. I NOTICED THAT WAS IN THE I NOTICED THAT WAS IN THE CONSENT AGENDA. CONSENT AGENDA. >> MAYOR FREANEY: YES. >> YES. >> YES. >> >> YES. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. IS >> OKAY. IS THERE >> OKAY. IS THERE A >> OKAY. IS THERE A REASON >> OKAY. IS THERE A REASON WHY >> OKAY. IS THERE A REASON WHY THAT'S >> OKAY. IS THERE A REASON WHY THAT'S NOT IS THERE A REASON WHY THAT'S NOT IN THE ACTION ITEMS? IN THE ACTION ITEMS? >> YES, SO THE CONSENT AGENDA IS >> YES, SO THE CONSENT AGENDA IS >> YES, SO THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ANYTHING >> YES, SO THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ANYTHING AT >> YES, SO THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ANYTHING AT $500,000 >> YES, SO THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ANYTHING AT $500,000 OR >> YES, SO THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ANYTHING AT $500,000 OR LESS >> YES, SO THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ANYTHING AT $500,000 OR LESS AS ANYTHING AT $500,000 OR LESS AS FAR AS THE EXPENDITURE GOES. FAR AS THE EXPENDITURE GOES. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. OKAY, >> OKAY. OKAY, THANK >> OKAY. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> ARE >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> ARE YOU >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> ARE YOU REQUESTING >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> ARE YOU REQUESTING THAT >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> ARE YOU REQUESTING THAT BE >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> ARE YOU REQUESTING THAT BE ON >> ARE YOU REQUESTING THAT BE ON >> ARE YOU REQUESTING THAT BE ON AN >> ARE YOU REQUESTING THAT BE ON AN ACTION >> ARE YOU REQUESTING THAT BE ON AN ACTION ITEM? AN ACTION ITEM? ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE I'M ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE I'M PULLING THAT ITEM IF IT'S NOT ON PULLING THAT ITEM IF IT'S NOT ON AN ACTION ITEM? AN ACTION ITEM? >> OKAY, THAT'S A VERY WHRU >> OKAY, THAT'S A VERY WHRU >> OKAY, THAT'S A VERY WHRU JITIMATE >> OKAY, THAT'S A VERY WHRU JITIMATE QUESTION. JITIMATE QUESTION. YEAH -- LEGITIMATE QUESTION, YEAH -- LEGITIMATE QUESTION, YEAH, I WOULD BE PULLING THAT YEAH, I WOULD BE PULLING THAT ITEM BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE ITEM BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME DISCUSSION NEEDS TO BE SOME DISCUSSION AROUND WHAT THE CONTRACT AWARD AROUND WHAT THE CONTRACT AWARD IS, WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE IS, WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE GOING TO BE, AND THOSE ARE SOME GOING TO BE, AND THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I THINK THAT WILL, THINGS THAT I THINK THAT WILL, I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE THRESHOLD OF THE AMOUNT, BUT I THRESHOLD OF THE AMOUNT, BUT I THINK THERE IS SOME THINK THERE IS SOME CLARIFICATION THAT NEEDS TO GO CLARIFICATION THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THAT JUST FOR THE INTO THAT JUST FOR THE MANAGEMENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF MANAGEMENT FOR THE PURPOSE OF MANAGING EXPECTATIONS. MANAGING EXPECTATIONS. >> SURE, STAFF WILL BE READY >> SURE, STAFF WILL BE READY >> SURE, STAFF WILL BE READY WITH >> SURE, STAFF WILL BE READY WITH A >> SURE, STAFF WILL BE READY WITH A FULL >> SURE, STAFF WILL BE READY WITH A FULL PRESENTATION. WITH A FULL PRESENTATION. >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY, >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY, SO >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY, SO WE'LL >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE THAT >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE THAT AS >> OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE THAT AS >> OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE THAT AS AN >> OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE THAT AS AN ACTION >> OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE THAT AS AN ACTION ITEM. AN ACTION ITEM. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WE WOULD IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WE WOULD SEE CHANGED ON THIS? SEE CHANGED ON THIS? OKAY, I'M JUST GOING MAKE A OKAY, I'M JUST GOING MAKE A COMMENT. COMMENT. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MEETING AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS MEETING AND YOU LOOK AT THE THURSDAY YOU LOOK AT THE THURSDAY MEETING, I THINK YOU KNOW WE'RE MEETING, I THINK YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THIS GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THIS DURING STRATEGIC PLANNING, I DURING STRATEGIC PLANNING, I THINK THERE'S CLEARLY SOME THINK THERE'S CLEARLY SOME EFFICIENCIES THAT COULD BE MADE EFFICIENCIES THAT COULD BE MADE HERE IN TERMS OF KEEPING WORK HERE IN TERMS OF KEEPING WORK SESSION ITEMS LIKE THE DUNEDIN SESSION ITEMS LIKE THE DUNEDIN MARINA, WHICH TO COME IN AND MARINA, WHICH TO COME IN AND JUST HAVE ONE ITEM AND IT'S ALL JUST HAVE ONE ITEM AND IT'S ALL THE MARINA YOU KNOW TO ME SEEMS THE MARINA YOU KNOW TO ME SEEMS VERY EFFICIENT VERSUS HAVING A VERY EFFICIENT VERSUS HAVING A LIGHT THURSDAY MEETING THAT WILL LIGHT THURSDAY MEETING THAT WILL GO IN A MILLISECOND AND HAVE GO IN A MILLISECOND AND HAVE NOTHING WHEN WE COULD MOVE ALL NOTHING WHEN WE COULD MOVE ALL THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS OVER. THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS OVER. WE COULD MOVE ALL OUR DISCUSSION WE COULD MOVE ALL OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS OVER. ITEMS OVER. AND STILL HAVE A VERY REASONABLE AND STILL HAVE A VERY REASONABLE TIME THURSDAY MEETING. TIME THURSDAY MEETING. SO I JUST SAY THAT TO GIVE US SO I JUST SAY THAT TO GIVE US SOME THOUGHT. SOME THOUGHT. HOPEFULLY WE'RE ALL THINKING HOPEFULLY WE'RE ALL THINKING ABOUT THAT. ABOUT THAT. AND I THINK YOU'RE GETTING THAT AND I THINK YOU'RE GETTING THAT THE SCHEDULED NOW? THE SCHEDULED NOW? OKAY, SO WITH THAT ONE CHANGE OKAY, SO WITH THAT ONE CHANGE MOVING THAT ITEM, UNDER THE MOVING THAT ITEM, UNDER THE THREAT OF, NO, JUST KIDDING, THREAT OF, NO, JUST KIDDING, UNDER THE THREAT OF COMMISSIONER UNDER THE THREAT OF COMMISSIONER WALKER PULLING IT, WE, DO I HAVE WALKER PULLING IT, WE, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? >> SO MOVED. >> SO MOVED. >> SO MOVED. >> >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> >> SECOND. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. AND >> OKAY. AND ANY >> OKAY. AND ANY PUBLIC >> OKAY. AND ANY PUBLIC INPUT >> OKAY. AND ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON >> OKAY. AND ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS AND ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS ITEM? ITEM? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AND MOTION -- AND I'M SORRY, ANY AND MOTION -- AND I'M SORRY, ANY OPPOSED? OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY, SO WE GO TO OUR WORKSHOP OKAY, SO WE GO TO OUR WORKSHOP ITEMS AND THE NEXT ONE IS SOLAR ITEMS AND THE NEXT ONE IS SOLAR FEASIBILITY STUDY. FEASIBILITY STUDY. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE ITEM STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE ITEM BE POSTPONED TO THE MARCH 18th BE POSTPONED TO THE MARCH 18th WORK SESSION, SO I'LL ASK FOR A WORK SESSION, SO I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S MOTION TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMEND OPTION. RECOMMEND OPTION. >> SO MOVED. >> SO MOVED. >> SO MOVED. >> >> SO MOVED. >> I'LL >> SO MOVED. >> I'LL SECOND >> SO MOVED. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> MAYOR >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> MAYOR FREANEY: >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> MAYOR FREANEY: ALL >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> MAYOR FREANEY: ALL IN >> I'LL SECOND THAT. >> MAYOR FREANEY: ALL IN FAVOR? >> ALL IN FAVOR? >> ALL IN FAVOR? ANY >> ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. OKAY, NOW WE GO TO OUR MAIN ITEM OKAY, NOW WE GO TO OUR MAIN ITEM OF THE DAY, 4B, 2025 LEGISLATIVE OF THE DAY, 4B, 2025 LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES REVIEW, AND STAFF PRIORITIES REVIEW, AND STAFF PRESENTATION. PRESENTATION. I'LL GO TO NICOLE. I'LL GO TO NICOLE. >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, NICOLE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, NICOLE DELFINO, STRATEGY AND DELFINO, STRATEGY AND SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER. SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER. HERE TODAY WITH LAURA BEAMER WHO HERE TODAY WITH LAURA BEAMER WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN PERSON. WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN PERSON. UNFORTUNATELY SHE IS VERY ILL. UNFORTUNATELY SHE IS VERY ILL. I KNOW SHE WAS GOING TO TRY TO I KNOW SHE WAS GOING TO TRY TO POTENTIALLY JUMP ON ZOOM AT POTENTIALLY JUMP ON ZOOM AT LEAST TO LISTEN IN, AND ALSO TO LEAST TO LISTEN IN, AND ALSO TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, SO BUT WE WERE TEXTING MAY HAVE, SO BUT WE WERE TEXTING RIGHT BEFORE, AND I SAID YOU RIGHT BEFORE, AND I SAID YOU REALLY DON'T NEED TO IF YOU'RE, REALLY DON'T NEED TO IF YOU'RE, SHE'S GOT THE FLU. SHE'S GOT THE FLU. IT'S OKAY. IT'S OKAY. WE CAN DO THIS. WE CAN DO THIS. SO AS FAR AS TODAY'S REQUEST SO AS FAR AS TODAY'S REQUEST GOES, I REALLY JUST WANT TO TAKE GOES, I REALLY JUST WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY ESPECIALLY WITH THE OPPORTUNITY ESPECIALLY WITH NEW COMMISSIONERS HERE TO TAKE A NEW COMMISSIONERS HERE TO TAKE A LOOK BACK AT THE 2024 LOOK BACK AT THE 2024 PRIORITIES. PRIORITIES. WHEN I CAME ON BOARD A FEW YEARS WHEN I CAME ON BOARD A FEW YEARS AGO, THE PRIORITIES WERE REALLY AGO, THE PRIORITIES WERE REALLY LONG, LIKE PAGES AND PAGES OF LONG, LIKE PAGES AND PAGES OF PRIORITIES. PRIORITIES. AND SO WE'VE REALLY WORKED ON AND SO WE'VE REALLY WORKED ON REALLY FOCUSING IN AND REALLY FOCUSING IN AND CONSOLIDATING THOSE WHICH I WANT CONSOLIDATING THOSE WHICH I WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION OR HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION OR HAVE YOUR INPUT AND DISCUSSION TODAY YOUR INPUT AND DISCUSSION TODAY ABOUT AS FAR AS TAKING A LOOK AT ABOUT AS FAR AS TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE, WE HAVE KIND OF ON WHAT WE'VE, WE HAVE KIND OF ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW AND, YOU THE BOARD RIGHT NOW AND, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING IF THOSE ARE KNOW, ADDRESSING IF THOSE ARE THINGS YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO THINGS YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE IN YOUR ADVOCACY STATEMENTS SEE IN YOUR ADVOCACY STATEMENTS OR IF YOU WANT TO KIND OF REFINE OR IF YOU WANT TO KIND OF REFINE ANY OF THOSE OR I WOULD IMAGINE ANY OF THOSE OR I WOULD IMAGINE POTENTIALLY ADD TO SOME GIVEN POTENTIALLY ADD TO SOME GIVEN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'VE THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED THIS LAST YEAR. EXPERIENCED THIS LAST YEAR. SO ONCE WE KIND OF GO THROUGH SO ONCE WE KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS AND I'VE GOT YOUR FEEDBACK THIS AND I'VE GOT YOUR FEEDBACK AND YOUR COMMENTS WE'LL TAKE ALL AND YOUR COMMENTS WE'LL TAKE ALL OF THAT AND DRAFT UP KIND OF I OF THAT AND DRAFT UP KIND OF I CALL IT THE ONE PAGER FOR BEING CALL IT THE ONE PAGER FOR BEING ABLE TO SHARE WITH OUR ABLE TO SHARE WITH OUR LEGISLATORS AND YOU KNOW OUR LEGISLATORS AND YOU KNOW OUR OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AS FAR AS OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AS FAR AS OUR POSITION WHICH IS ATTACHED OUR POSITION WHICH IS ATTACHED ALSO TO THIS AGENDA ITEM AND I ALSO TO THIS AGENDA ITEM AND I HAVE COPIES IF YOU NEED THEM. HAVE COPIES IF YOU NEED THEM. JUST AS A OVERVIEW, SESSION HAS JUST AS A OVERVIEW, SESSION HAS BEGUN SO TO SPEAK WITH COMMITTEE BEGUN SO TO SPEAK WITH COMMITTEE WEEKS NEXT WEEK AND MOVING ON WEEKS NEXT WEEK AND MOVING ON BASICALLY EVERY OTHER WEEK IS BASICALLY EVERY OTHER WEEK IS PRETTY MUCH A COMMITTEE WEEK PRETTY MUCH A COMMITTEE WEEK UNTIL SESSION STARTS IN MARCH. UNTIL SESSION STARTS IN MARCH. IT'S A LATE SESSION THIS YEAR. IT'S A LATE SESSION THIS YEAR. SO WE'LL BE ENDING ON MAY SO WE'LL BE ENDING ON MAY SECOND. SECOND. UNFORTUNATELY YOU KNOW I THINK UNFORTUNATELY YOU KNOW I THINK THE POSITION CURRENTLY WITH IT THE POSITION CURRENTLY WITH IT BEING LATE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW BEING LATE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE SUCH THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE SUCH AS EMERGENCY OR RECOVERY FUNDING AS EMERGENCY OR RECOVERY FUNDING SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THEY START TO GET INTO UNTIL THEY START TO GET INTO THESE COMMITTEE WEEKS TO SEE THESE COMMITTEE WEEKS TO SEE WHAT KIND OF DISCUSSIONS THEY'RE WHAT KIND OF DISCUSSIONS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE AS FAR AS FUNDING GOING TO HAVE AS FAR AS FUNDING RECOVERY EFFORTS BUT WE'LL TALK RECOVERY EFFORTS BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE. ABOUT THAT MORE. SO AGAIN, REALLY WHAT WE'RE SO AGAIN, REALLY WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO LOOK AT TODAY IS WANTING TO LOOK AT TODAY IS REALLY REFINING THESE. REALLY REFINING THESE. THERE'S STILL A LOT ON THESE, THERE'S STILL A LOT ON THESE, THE ONE PAGER AS FAR AS WHAT THE THE ONE PAGER AS FAR AS WHAT THE YOUR PRIORITY STATEMENTS ARE, IF YOUR PRIORITY STATEMENTS ARE, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE FEEL THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE FEEL HAS BEEN REDUNDANT OR HAS BEEN HAS BEEN REDUNDANT OR HAS BEEN ADDRESSED, WE CAN CERTAINLY ADDRESSED, WE CAN CERTAINLY REMOVE THAT OR AGAIN IF YOU WANT REMOVE THAT OR AGAIN IF YOU WANT TO, IF THERE ARE ANY ITEMS THAT TO, IF THERE ARE ANY ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD. YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD. SO THIS IS WHAT THE ONE PAGER SO THIS IS WHAT THE ONE PAGER LOOKS LIKE SO SOME INFORMATION, LOOKS LIKE SO SOME INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, GENERAL INFORMATION ON YOU KNOW, GENERAL INFORMATION ON THE FRONT OF THE SHEET. THE FRONT OF THE SHEET. OBVIOUSLY HOME RULE BEING ONE OF OBVIOUSLY HOME RULE BEING ONE OF THE BIG CONSIDERATIONS AND THE BIG CONSIDERATIONS AND THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED QUITE A THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED QUITE A LOT WHEN WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR LOT WHEN WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR OUR POSITIONS, AND THEN JUST A OUR POSITIONS, AND THEN JUST A SUMMARY OF THE PRIORITIES, AND SUMMARY OF THE PRIORITIES, AND THEN LAST YEAR WE HAVE THE THEN LAST YEAR WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATION REQUEST WHICH APPROPRIATION REQUEST WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE'LL BE UPDATING FOR OBVIOUSLY WE'LL BE UPDATING FOR WHATEVER WE KIND OF, AS REVIEW WHATEVER WE KIND OF, AS REVIEW WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE MOST WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL FOR NEXT YEAR'S SUCCESSFUL FOR NEXT YEAR'S APPROPRIATION REQUEST. APPROPRIATION REQUEST. AND THEN ON THE BACK SIDE, WHICH AND THEN ON THE BACK SIDE, WHICH WE'LL ACTUALLY GO THROUGH KIND WE'LL ACTUALLY GO THROUGH KIND OF ONE BY ONE, ARE THOSE OF ONE BY ONE, ARE THOSE CATEGORIES, ENVIRONMENT AND CATEGORIES, ENVIRONMENT AND RESILIENCY, TRANSPORTATION AND RESILIENCY, TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE, MUNICIPAL INFRASTRUCTURE, MUNICIPAL ADMINISTRATION, EDUCATION, AND ADMINISTRATION, EDUCATION, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING. HOUSING. SO HERE ARE BASICALLY THOSE SO HERE ARE BASICALLY THOSE STATEMENTS ON THE BACK OF THAT STATEMENTS ON THE BACK OF THAT ADVOCACY DOCUMENT, AND I REALLY ADVOCACY DOCUMENT, AND I REALLY WANT TO, IF WE, IF YOU WOULD WANT TO, IF WE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, TO ASK KIND OF FOR YOUR LIKE, TO ASK KIND OF FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AS WE GO THROUGH THESE, FEEDBACK AS WE GO THROUGH THESE, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. FOR YOUR COMMENTS. OBVIOUSLY THE HOME RULE IS OBVIOUSLY THE HOME RULE IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE FIGHT SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE FIGHT FOR EVERY DAY ALL THE TIME FOR EVERY DAY ALL THE TIME BECAUSE THERE ARE, WE SEE OFTEN BECAUSE THERE ARE, WE SEE OFTEN BILLS AND LANGUAGE IN BILLS THAT BILLS AND LANGUAGE IN BILLS THAT ARE JUST VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND ARE JUST VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND NOT NECESSARILY APPLICABLE TO US NOT NECESSARILY APPLICABLE TO US ARE GOING TO IMPACT US ARE GOING TO IMPACT US NEGATIVELY SO WE DO CONTINUE TO NEGATIVELY SO WE DO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. TALK ABOUT THAT. YA MILWAUKEE -- I CAN'T IMAGINE YA MILWAUKEE -- I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WOULD WANT THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WOULD WANT TO COME OFF OF THAT THE AS TO COME OFF OF THAT THE AS AS A HOME RULE HERO I ENCOURAGE AS A HOME RULE HERO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP IT, BUT IF YOU HAVE YOU TO KEEP IT, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS AS TO HOME RULE, ANY COMMENTS AS TO HOME RULE, I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO LISTEN. I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO LISTEN. >> MAYOR FREANEY: DO WE WANT TO >> DO WE WANT TO >> DO WE WANT TO DO >> DO WE WANT TO DO THESE >> DO WE WANT TO DO THESE ONE >> DO WE WANT TO DO THESE ONE AT >> DO WE WANT TO DO THESE ONE AT A >> DO WE WANT TO DO THESE ONE AT A TIME >> DO WE WANT TO DO THESE ONE AT A TIME LIKE DO THESE ONE AT A TIME LIKE THIS, GENTLEMEN, OR DO YOU WANT THIS, GENTLEMEN, OR DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THEM AND COME TO GO THROUGH THEM AND COME BACK? BACK? >> STRONG FEELINGS ON THIS >> STRONG FEELINGS ON THIS >> STRONG FEELINGS ON THIS OBVIOUSLY. OBVIOUSLY. >> MAYOR FREANEY: DO WE WANT TO >> DO WE WANT TO >> DO WE WANT TO GO >> DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH >> DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL >> DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF >> DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE >> DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE AND >> DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE AND COME GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE AND COME BACK OR DO THEM ONE AT A TIME AS BACK OR DO THEM ONE AT A TIME AS WE GO? WE GO? >> ONE AT A TIME AS WE GO? >> ONE AT A TIME AS WE GO? >> ONE AT A TIME AS WE GO? >> >> ONE AT A TIME AS WE GO? >> YEAH, >> ONE AT A TIME AS WE GO? >> YEAH, LET'S >> ONE AT A TIME AS WE GO? >> YEAH, LET'S KIND >> ONE AT A TIME AS WE GO? >> YEAH, LET'S KIND ORPHKEEP >> ONE AT A TIME AS WE GO? >> YEAH, LET'S KIND ORPHKEEP IT, >> YEAH, LET'S KIND ORPHKEEP IT, >> YEAH, LET'S KIND ORPHKEEP IT, I >> YEAH, LET'S KIND ORPHKEEP IT, I WOULD >> YEAH, LET'S KIND ORPHKEEP IT, I WOULD SAY >> YEAH, LET'S KIND ORPHKEEP IT, I WOULD SAY ONE >> YEAH, LET'S KIND ORPHKEEP IT, I WOULD SAY ONE AT >> YEAH, LET'S KIND ORPHKEEP IT, I WOULD SAY ONE AT A >> YEAH, LET'S KIND ORPHKEEP IT, I WOULD SAY ONE AT A TIME. I WOULD SAY ONE AT A TIME. >> MAYOR FREANEY: COMMENTS, >> COMMENTS, >> COMMENTS, START >> COMMENTS, START OVER >> COMMENTS, START OVER HERE >> COMMENTS, START OVER HERE WITH START OVER HERE WITH COMMISSIONER WALKER ON HOME COMMISSIONER WALKER ON HOME RULE. RULE. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS MORE, >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS MORE, I >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS MORE, I DON'T >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS MORE, I DON'T GUESS >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS MORE, I DON'T GUESS IT THIS IS MORE, I DON'T GUESS IT TO BE A REQUEST, YOU KNOW, OF TO BE A REQUEST, YOU KNOW, OF ALL THE PENDING LEGISLATION, ALL THE PENDING LEGISLATION, THERE ARE SO MANY OF THOSE ITEMS THERE ARE SO MANY OF THOSE ITEMS THAT DO HAVE AN IMPACT ON HOME THAT DO HAVE AN IMPACT ON HOME RULE. RULE. I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN'T JUST I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN'T JUST GET A SUMMARY OF YOU KNOW THE, GET A SUMMARY OF YOU KNOW THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE REVIEWING THE PIECE OF LEGISLATION, THE PIECE OF LEGISLATION, HIGHLIGHTING YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT HIGHLIGHTING YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT IS A POTENTIAL IMPACT TO HOME IS A POTENTIAL IMPACT TO HOME RULE I THINK THAT WOULD BE RULE I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND I THINK WE KIND OF HELPFUL AND I THINK WE KIND OF ALREADY DO THAT, BUT YOU KNOW ALREADY DO THAT, BUT YOU KNOW SOMETIMES HAVING GONE TO SOME OF SOMETIMES HAVING GONE TO SOME OF THE LEGISLATIVE MEETINGS, THE LEGISLATIVE MEETINGS, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT APPARENTLY SOMETIMES IT'S NOT APPARENTLY CLEAR, AND THAT'S YOU KNOW IF CLEAR, AND THAT'S YOU KNOW IF IT'S FEASIBLE AND YOU KNOW AS A IT'S FEASIBLE AND YOU KNOW AS A CHAMPION OF HOME RULE THAT YOU CHAMPION OF HOME RULE THAT YOU ARE, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY ARE, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY ALREADY DOING THAT, SO. ALREADY DOING THAT, SO. >> YEAH, AND OBVIOUSLY WORKING >> YEAH, AND OBVIOUSLY WORKING >> YEAH, AND OBVIOUSLY WORKING WITH >> YEAH, AND OBVIOUSLY WORKING WITH LAURA, >> YEAH, AND OBVIOUSLY WORKING WITH LAURA, SHE >> YEAH, AND OBVIOUSLY WORKING WITH LAURA, SHE YOU >> YEAH, AND OBVIOUSLY WORKING WITH LAURA, SHE YOU KNOW >> YEAH, AND OBVIOUSLY WORKING WITH LAURA, SHE YOU KNOW PUTS WITH LAURA, SHE YOU KNOW PUTS TOGETHER SUMMARIES TO GET -- ALL TOGETHER SUMMARIES TO GET -- ALL DURING

DUNEDIN, FLORIDA MINUTES OF THE CITY COMMISSION WORK SESSION JANUARY 7, 2025 9:00 A.M. PRESENT: City Commission: Mayor Maureen "Moe" Freaney, Vice Mayor Jeff Gow, Commissioners Tom Dugard, Steven Sandbergen, and Robert Walker Also Present: City Manager Jennifer Bramley, City Attorney Jennifer Cowan, Deputy City Clerk Michelle Wells, Deputy City Manager Jorge Quintas, IT Services Director Michael Nagy, Utilities Director Janice Bennett, Strategy & Sustainability Manager Nicole Delfino and one person in the audience. CALL TO ORDER Mayor Freaney called the January 7, 2025, Work Session to order at 9:00 a.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE City Attorney Cowan led the Pledge of Allegiance. 1. PRESENT ATIO NS · None CITIZEN INPUT Mayor Freaney advised now was the time for anyone who wished to speak on a topic that is not already on the agenda. Hearing and seeing no one wishing to speak, she moved to the next agenda item. 2. CONSENT AGENDA 2.a. Approve the Minutes for the: A. 10/15/2024 Work Session B. 10/17/2024 Regular Meeting C. 10/24/2024 Special Meeting D. 11/7/2024 Regular Meeting 2.b. Board and Committee Appointments A. Youth Advisory Committee - Reappoint Brayton Ross to a partial regular term ending 11/1/2025 2.c. Approval to increase the existing Purchase Order (PO #240924-04) with Mechanik, Nuccio, Hearne & Wester, PA (MNH&W) for specialized legal services related to the sale and disposition of the Coca Cola (Coke) parcel in Dunedin, for a total amount of $75,000. MOTION: Motion was made by Commissioner Gow and seconded by Commissioner Walker to approve the Consent Agenda except item 2.c. Public Input Mayor Freaney opened public input on any Consent item. Hearing and seeing no one wishing to speak, Mayor Freaney closed the public input. VOTE: Motion carried unanimously. ITEMS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA· 2.c. Approval to increase the existing Purchase Order (PO #240924-04) with Mechanik, Nuccio, Hearne & Wester, PA (MNH&W) for specialized legal services related to the sale and disposition of the Coca Cola (Coke) parcel in Dunedin, for a total amount of $75,000. Deputy City Manager Quintas provided a summary: In May 2024, the City received a letter from the attorneys for Coca-Cola, Holland & Knight, indicating they had applied to the Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) for a closure notice for the sale of their parcel. They want to get a Conditional Site Rehabilitation Closure Order (CSRCO). They are obligated to notify all adjacent property owners of their intent. 25-1

Work Session Minutes January 7, 2025 Dunedin City Commission This essentially allows for Institutional Engineering Controls placed on a parcel to get a clean bill of sale to proceed with the sale. The City has 30 to 60 days to respond to the DEP. Staff reached out to BMO and also through Economic Development for a legal firm specializing in those type of negotiations to make sure the City's interests were represented. There is only a certain time period to object to the issuance of the CSRCO. The City reached out to MNH&W to provide the services, which initially was a $10,000 authorization to review the files and determine the information necessary to respond to the DEP and Coca-Cola. Through that, negotiations began with MNH&W, BMO and City staff, and Coca-Cola on the potential donation of a parcel immediately adjacent to the Wastewater Treatment Plant. As a part of this process there are steps to be taken, including developing Institutional Controls and guaranteeing it would always stay in public domain and not be sold to any private entity. This adjacent property probably would not be attractive to a developer in the future; however, it would allow for the City to expand the Wastewater Treatment Plant in the future. Negotiations have continued with all the parties to come up with an agreement for the donation of this parcel, and in addition to the land, there is some equipment on the site the City hopes to be able to obtain as part of the donation. The MNH&W firm is protecting the City's interest, making sure of going into the agreement eyes wide open for anything associated with the land donation; once that is done, there is a demolition associated with turning the parcel over to the City, which would be a future agreement for the Commission consideration should it get to that point. Then Coca-Cola would market the remainder of their parcel for sale to a private developer. Discussion ensued with information regarding the Wastewater Treatment Plant. MOTION: Motion was made by Commissioner Walker and seconded by Commissioner Sandbergen to approve Consent Agenda item 2.c. Public Input Mayor Freaney opened public input on this Consent item. Hearing and seeing no one wishing to speak, Mayor Freaney closed the public input. VOTE: Motion carried unanimously. 3. ACTION ITEMS 3.b. The proposed agenda for January 21, 2025, Work Session Mayor Freaney inquired if there were any changes to the January 21, 2025, Work Session agenda. Move from Consent Agenda to Action Items: 2.d Approval of Purchase Order for Design, permitting, and post design services to Kimley-Horn, St. Petersburg, LLC for $298,083. MOTION: Motion was made by Commissioner Gow and seconded by Commissioner Walker to approve the revised proposed agenda for the January 21, 2025, Work Session. VOTE: Motion carried unanimously. 4. WORKSHOP ITEMS 4.a. Solar Feasibility Study Staff Presentation Mayor Freaney advised staff recommended the Solar Feasibility Study be postponed until the March 18, 2025, Work Session. 25-2

Work Session Minutes Dunedin City Commission January 7, 2025 MOTION: Motion was made by Commissioner Walker and seconded by Commissioner Sandbergen to postpone the Solar Feasibility Study to the March 18, 2025, Work Session agenda. VOTE: Motion carried unanimously. 4.b. 2025 Legislative Priorities Review Staff Presentation Strategy & Sustainability Manager Delfino referred to the PowerPoint presentation attached to the staffing memo, 2025 LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES REVIEW (Exhibit A) and Legislative Agenda 2024 (Exhibit B) and provided information, history, and explanations on the topics addressed in those documents. Throughout this agenda item, there was significant discussion on a number of issues with concerns expressed by the Mayor and Commissioners in relation to the legislative priorities and to a variety of issues as well as practices and procedures involving grants, letters on new legislation, and understanding of impacts to the City and State and the importance of the Mayor and Commissioners reaching out to elected officials individually on priorities established and a strategy. Ms. Delfino provided details on various topics in response to questions from the Commission regarding the past actions and legislative issues the Commission has addressed, including preemptions set by the Legislature and program funding. In response to Commission questions, City Manager Bramley also provided additional information on topics specific to Dunedin and the work by City staff in relation to those programs. 2025 Session Dates: • 2025 Committee Meetings: Seven Committee Weeks begin December 9 & end February 21 Legislative Session Begins: March 4, 2025 Legislative Session Ends : May 2, 2025 With the Session being late, answers to some questions are not known, for example emergency or recovery funding; those will have to wait until the Committee weeks start. Existing 2024 State Legislative Priorities, Page 5 - One Page Detailed Graphic • Home Rule - Recommendation is to continue. ► Suggestion to include the potential impact to Home Rule in proposed legislation. • Priorities Environment & Resiliency: ► Suggestion to give more urgency in the language regarding: To mitigate severe storm impacts, implement infrastructure safety protocols for utilities, including funding utility undergrounding. Expanding to include Stormwater Expand scope to how to mitigate in terms of establishing and advocating for Federal and State resources ► Suggestion to include insurance issues and post-storm redevelopment, incentives to go to a different location in view of future issues • Appropriations Requests 2024 Priority Statements , Page 5 - One Page Detailed Graphic Environment & Resiliency Municipal Administration 25-3

Work Session Minutes January 7, 2025 Economic Development & Housing 2025 State Priorities Overview HOME RULE: Dunedin City Commission • SUPPORT municipal Home Rule powers of governance by strengthening and protecting local self- government to effectively and efficiently respond to and provide for our residents and unique community needs. ENVIRONMENT & RESILIENCY: • Resiliency initiatives & alternative energy sources • Infrastructure safety protocols • Preserve and protect local waterways TRANSPORTATION & INFRASTRUCTURE: • Fund Causeway Bridge Replacement & SR 580 Complete Streets Projects • Support multi-modal infrastructure • Sustainable Public Transportation model ► Suggestion to include pedestrian safety ► Suggestion to include regulations for defining motorized vehicles such as e-bikes ► Suggestion for support of the Pinellas Suncoast Transit Authority (PSTA) BREAK 10:11 A.M. -10:20 A.M. MUNICIPAL ADMINISTRATION: • Short-term rentals It was noted that nothing was anticipated to come up for short-term rentals this session . • Mental Health The City does not handle behavioral health; however, it does advocate for those services handled through the State and/or County. Increased funding has been seen over the years. ► Suggestion to support more information on 211 changing to First Contact and support for that service. EDUCATION: • Fund Arts and Culture The budget last year saw a decrease in funding, whereas in the previous year, it had done well with a good increase. ► Continued support by the City • Workforce training & certification This is similar to Mental Health in that the City does not handle services; however, it has advocated for and supports services through the State and County. There seems to have been a shift over the years with increased funding. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT & HOUSING: • Incentive economic development in workforce development ► Suggestion for the State to come up with something creative for workforce development. • Fund affordable housing programs ► Continued support for some type of funding; full funding for Sadowski Fund 25-4

Work Session Minutes January 7, 2025 Dunedin City Commission • Support mixed-use development and more flexible transit requirements This was pinpointed in last year's discussion in terms of what sort of affordable housing or mixed-use development are funded through the Affordable Housing component due to the transit requirements. Looking Ahead: Ms. Delfino advised staff would review notes from today's discussion, compare the comments and suggestions to the current language in the priority statements, and provide a new one-page document to City Manager Bramley to distribute to the Commission. Staff will continue to advocate for the Commission position, whether through bills or other means such as agencies and so forth. • Monitor Agency Priorities • Bill Watch • Development of 2025 Legislative Priorities • Advocacy • Florida League of Cities Legislative Action Days March 24-26, 2025 Discussion ensued regarding the FLC committee appointments from the City Commission and the FLC procedures for priority issues. Request to add to the January 9, 2025, Commission Meeting. Questions/Comments for Staff Mayor Freaney requested a one-page sheet providing information for strategy on touch points for the Commission to be involved in terms of those pre-meetings with the elected officials; she also requested procedures and what calls the Commission should be making for support and advocating priorities. City Manager Bramley suggested the Commission consider a group attending the Legislative Action Days in Tallahassee and Committee Week. Commissioner Dugard expressed the importance of FEMA as an agency and how the City of Dunedin interfaces at the Federal, State, and County entities for the City's priorities can be achieved. Ms. Delfino explained her previous actions regarding those issues in terms of FEMA, including meetings with Representatives, future plans, and the importance of the Commission members meeting or speaking with them. Mayor Freaney commented regarding the National League of Cities and attending their conference where there were also meetings with Senators and Representatives; she found it very helpful. City of Dunedin State Representatives: • Senator Ed Hooper • Representative Kimberley Berfield • Representative Adam Anderson City of Dunedin Federal Representatives: • Senator Marco Rubio • Senator Rick Scott • Representative Anna Paulina Luna 5. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS 5.a. Commission Discussion Mayor Freaney referred to the policy set previously for Commissioners to submit an email, which would have no response under Sunshine Law to advise of topics they plan to bring up under Commission Discussion. The policy could be reviewed at Strategic Planning, which had the intent she thought of not surprising the Commission on the dais. 25-5

Work Session Minutes January 7, 2025 Dunedin City Commission Commissioner Sandbergen commented on the importance of safety for residents and visitors; he explained he had received comments about issues on the Pinellas Trail. He requested consideration of what the City is able to do to address theses issues and identify who is causing the trouble, especially going into the season, which he anticipates to be very busy. He thought the City had a responsibility to the merchants and residents to help protect the tourists in relation to the City's economy. Commissioner Sandbergen also noted in terms of safety at the Art Show downtown, he did note some areas he thought to be soft spots, although he is not an expert. Also , he witnessed some patrons of the art show were injured. He needs to know who he should bring up those issues to. City Manager Bramley recalled last summer the "wheelie boys," as they were called, were an issue along the Trail and the City streets. The Sheriffs Office addressed the issues with several directed patrols on the Trail and going thereabouts, looking for the young men on bicycles, and they were able to curb some of those issues; they were fined and their parents were spoken to. Many did trespass from the Trail. It seemed to quiet things down and there was a directed patrol before Christmas, and many tickets were issued. Regarding the issues Commissioner Sandbergen referenced over the weekend, she also noticed them beginning Friday night through the weekend, which seemed almost planned by the young men who were all over and fast, grabbing onto cars, and addressing some of the elderly people on the Trail. She is meeting with the Sheriffs Office tomorrow to discuss how to approach these issues again. She will convey to them the Commission's position and discuss the next steps. It is difficult for law enforcement because they get the call and by the time they get to the location, they are gone. City Manager Bramley addressed the concern for other areas of the City during events and explained the barriers are at all the main entrances to the Art Festival; she noted she thought Dunedin was the first in the area to do that. That is balanced with the need to get out of the area if there is an incident. The City does have the mini-ambulance for ease of getting in and out, and it was in use over the weekend. Staff is aware of the gaps noted and those are strategic as far as protecting the public. City Manager Bramley explained in terms of some of the hazards, there were new organizers. There were areas where the frontage of businesses were left open so people could see them, which created other hazards in the area, and those are issues that will be addressed. 5.b. City Clerk's Update - None 5.c. City Manager's Update City Manager Bramley: Will report back with the date for the Community Center lawn to reopen. Will provide a timeline for sodding the debris site. 5.d. City Attorney's Update - None 5.e. Commission Comments Vice Mayor Gow: Advised regarding Scottish Cookbook writer Coinneach Macleod, who focuses on the small islands around Scotland; he is doing a U.S. tour beginning in Dunedin at the Dunedin Fine Arts Center. That is among the other many programs and events at the DFAC. Commissioner Sandbergen: Advised that as liaison to the Blue Jays he, Mayor Freaney, and Parks & Recreation Director Gizzi will be meeting with the Florida General Manager to discuss the upcoming Spring Training. Mayor Freaney noted at the meeting should any issues come up that might come before the Commission, she would leave in accordance with the Sunshine Laws. 25-6

Work Session Minutes January 7, 2025 Dunedin City Commission Commissioner Walker: Advised the Pinellas Suncoast Transit Authority (PSTA) Legislative Committee will be reviewing their Legislative Priorities tomorrow. Announced February 15, 2025, events: The Golf Course Grand Opening is on February 15, 2025. Welcome Back Blue Jays Dunedin Fine Arts Center 50 th Anniversary Gala Advised the Dunedin Cares Gala is February 22, 2025; it is their big fundraising event. Commissioner Dugard: Reiterated his concerns regarding the Pinellas Trail Safety, which he will be asking for the Commission to address . Noted he will also want to be addressing mental health issues for those over the age of 65 in the community and some community engagement programs. Advised regarding residents inquiring ab9ut stormwater and flooding, which will be one of the three issues he will be wanting to see on an agenda. Commented regarding the importance of engaging residents on those three issues. Advised regarding Dunedin Cares; he has spoken with the President, who is currently very focused on the Gala. In terms of the agency needs, they need a building because the current facility is stretched beyond its capacity. The demand is very high. Mayor Freaney: Advised the Tampa Bay Regional Planning Council (TBRPC) had their first meeting, at which she was sworn in as Chair. There is a workshop next week on Sustainability & Resiliency. She will be carrying on all the thoughts of the City and Commission. The Sustainability & Resiliency Conference is also upcoming in May. Advised the first meeting of Forward Pinellas is tomorrow. Noted the Strategic Planning date and format will be upcoming . ADJOURN MEETING The Work Session adjourned at 11 :51 a.m. NOTE: The meeting was completely recorded and the recording is in the official file. ,r kr\/\ ,, I>, ~ I...J..-.L+- --' \ \ ~ _:J"J-.c,_./l'-~ / Maureen "Moe" Freaney Q Mayor Attest: 25-7

1. PRESENTATIONS 2. CONSENT AGENDA 2.a Approve the Minutes for the: A. 10/15/2024 Work Session B. 10/17/2024 Regular Meeting C. 10/24/2024 Special Meeting D. 11/7/2024 Regular Meeting 2.b Board and Committee Appointments 2.c Approval to increase the existing Purchase Order (PO #240924-04) with Mechanik, Nuccio, Hearne & Wester, PA (MNH&W) for specialized legal services related to the sale and disposition of the Coca Cola (Coke) parcel in Dunedin, for a total amount of $75,000. NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING CITY COMMISSION WORK SESSION DUNEDIN CITY HALL, 737 LOUDEN AVENUE JANUARY 7, 2025 9:00 AM AGENDA CALL TO ORDER PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE CITIZEN INPUT Staff recommends to approve the minutes for the meetings identified above. EXHIBIT: A. 10-15-24 WS Minutes.pdf EXHIBIT: B. 10-17-24 RM Minutes.pdf EXHIBIT: C. 10-24-24 SM Minutes.pdf EXHIBIT: D. 11-07-24 RM Minutes.pdf A. Youth Advisory Committee - Reappoint Brayton Ross to a partial regular term ending 11/1/2025 EXHIBIT: A. YAC Roster.pdf Recommend approval to increase the existing Purchase Order (PO #240924-04) with Mechanik, Nuccio, Hearne & Wester, PA (MNH&W) for specialized legal services related to coordination with FDEP and Coca Cola (Coke) concerning the sale and disposition of the Coke parcel in Dunedin, for a revised total amount of $75,000. EXHIBIT: A. CM Delegated Authority Memo - Increase PO #240924-02 for continued services by MNHW - LSA for Coke Parcel (11-12-24).pdf 1

3. ACTION ITEMS 3.a The proposed agenda for the January 21, 2025, Commission Meeting. 4. WORKSHOP ITEMS 4.a Solar Feasibility Study 4.b 2025 Legislative Priorities Review 5. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS 5.a Commission Discussion 5.b City Clerk's Update 5.c City Manager's Update 5.d City Attorney's Update 5.e Commission Comments 6. DUNEDIN PUBLIC PARTICIPATION & DECORUM RULES EXHIBIT: B. PO #240924 - 04 (MNHW).pdf EXHIBIT: C. BA BT Request Form - MNH&W - CocaCola - PO Increase to Commission.pdf Staff recommends approving the proposed agenda for the January 21, 2025, Commission Meeting. EXHIBIT: A. January 21, 2025 Proposed Agenda.pdf Staff recommends moving this item to the March 18th Work Session. Review 2024 Legislative Priorities & identify top priorities for 2025 EXHIBIT: A. 2025 Legislative Development January 7 2025.pdf EXHIBIT: B. Legislative Agenda 2024.pdf The Commission share topics of concerns or future issues they wish to address. City Clerk's Update City Manager's Update City Attorney's Update The Commission shares events attended, announcements, liaison updates, etc. ADJOURN MEETING Note: Please put cell phones and pagers on silent or vibrate during the meeting. This meeting is televised; therefore, you may appear on TV at any time. Public Appearance: CITIZEN INPUT is for comments from members of the audience regarding items not listed on the agenda for this meeting (please give name and address and limit all comments to a maximum of three minutes). AS FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA individual speakers are limited to a maximum of three minutes. A Representative of a group consisting of 5 individuals who are present during the meeting may speak on behalf of the group for up to 10 minutes at the Chair's 2

discretion. To do so, the individuals must have waived their time to the representative by providing their name and address on the back of the comment card. Appeals: Per Florida Statute 286.0105 - If a person decides to appeal any decision made by the board, agency, or commission with respect to any matter considered at such meeting or hearing, he or she will need a record of the proceedings, and that, for such purpose, he or she may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based. Disability Provisions: It is the policy of the City of Dunedin not to discriminate against disabled persons in employment or the provisions of services. If you have a disability that requires accommodation, please notify the ADA Coordinator 48 hours prior to the scheduled meeting at (727) 298-3042. COPIES OF THIS AND ALL COMMISSION AGENDAS ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK, 737 LOUDEN AVENUE, ON THE MONDAY PRIOR TO THE MEETING DATE. COPIES ARE ALSO AVAILABLE ON THE CITY’S WEBSITE AT WWW.DUNEDINGOV.COM. 3

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>> MAYOR >> MAYOR FREANEY: >> JANUARY >> JANUARY 7, >> JANUARY 7, 2025, >> JANUARY 7, 2025, CITY >> JANUARY 7, 2025, CITY COMMISSION >> JANUARY 7, 2025, CITY COMMISSION WORK 2025, CITY COMMISSION WORK SESSION. SESSION. LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING OFFICIALLY TO ORDER, AND WE'LL OFFICIALLY TO ORDER, AND WE'LL START WITH OUR PLEDGE OF START WITH OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. ALLEGIANCE. JEN, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE JEN, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? PLEDGE? >> BE HAPPY TO. >> BE HAPPY TO. >> BE HAPPY TO. [PLEDGE >> BE HAPPY TO. [PLEDGE OF >> BE HAPPY TO. [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, WE HAVE >> OKAY, WE HAVE >> OKAY, WE HAVE NO >> OKAY, WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS, >> OKAY, WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS, SO >> OKAY, WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS, SO I'M >> OKAY, WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS, SO I'M GOING NO PRESENTATIONS, SO I'M GOING TO MOVE TO CITIZEN INPUT. TO MOVE TO CITIZEN INPUT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA? CUTE, CUTE. CUTE, CUTE. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] YEAH. YEAH. FOR THOSE WHO COULDN'T SEE THAT, FOR THOSE WHO COULDN'T SEE THAT, SOME OF THE STAFF STARTED TO SOME OF THE STAFF STARTED TO STAND UP, SO ANYWAY. STAND UP, SO ANYWAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. CONSENT AGENDA. SO WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE SO WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR 10/15/2024 WORK MINUTES FOR 10/15/2024 WORK SESSION, 10/17/2024 REGULAR SESSION, 10/17/2024 REGULAR MEETING, 10/24/2024 SPECIAL MEETING, 10/24/2024 SPECIAL MEETING, 11/7/2024 REGULAR MEETING, 11/7/2024 REGULAR MEETING, AND WE ALSO HAVE MEETING, AND WE ALSO HAVE REAPPOINTMENT TO THE YOUTH REAPPOINTMENT TO THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD, AND WE HAVE THE ADVISORY BOARD, AND WE HAVE THE APPROVAL TO INCREASE THE APPROVAL TO INCREASE THE EXISTING PURCHASE ORDER WITH, I EXISTING PURCHASE ORDER WITH, I WON'T SAY THIS RIGHT WITH WON'T SAY THIS RIGHT WITH MECHANIK, NUCCIO, HEARNE, AND MECHANIK, NUCCIO, HEARNE, AND WESTER FOR SPECIALIZED LEGAL WESTER FOR SPECIALIZED LEGAL SERVICES RELATED TO THE SALE AND SERVICES RELATED TO THE SALE AND DISPOSITION OF THE COCA-COLA DISPOSITION OF THE COCA-COLA COKE PARCEL IN DUNEDIN FOR A COKE PARCEL IN DUNEDIN FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF $75,000. TOTAL AMOUNT OF $75,000. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS ANYONE ARE THERE ANY ITEMS ANYONE WISHES TO PULL, PLEASE? WISHES TO PULL, PLEASE? >> ITEM 2C, PLEASE. >> ITEM 2C, PLEASE. >> ITEM 2C, PLEASE. >> >> ITEM 2C, PLEASE. >> MAYOR >> ITEM 2C, PLEASE. >> MAYOR FREANEY: >> ITEM 2C, PLEASE. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, >> ITEM 2C, PLEASE. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, ITEM >> ITEM 2C, PLEASE. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, ITEM 2C. >> OKAY, ITEM 2C. >> OKAY, ITEM 2C. ANY >> OKAY, ITEM 2C. ANY OTHER >> OKAY, ITEM 2C. ANY OTHER ITEMS >> OKAY, ITEM 2C. ANY OTHER ITEMS TO >> OKAY, ITEM 2C. ANY OTHER ITEMS TO PULL? ANY OTHER ITEMS TO PULL? SEEING NONE, IF I COULD GET A SEEING NONE, IF I COULD GET A MOTION TO APPROVE 2A. AND 2B. MOTION TO APPROVE 2A. AND 2B. >> SO MOVED. >> SO MOVED. >> SO MOVED. >> >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> >> SECOND. >> MAYOR >> SECOND. >> MAYOR FREANEY: >> SECOND. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, >> SECOND. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, SOY >> SECOND. >> MAYOR FREANEY: OKAY, SOY WE >> OKAY, SOY WE >> OKAY, SOY WE HAVE >> OKAY, SOY WE HAVE A >> OKAY, SOY WE HAVE A MOTION >> OKAY, SOY WE HAVE A MOTION AND >> OKAY, SOY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A >> OKAY, SOY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND I'LL ASK IS THERE ANY PUBLIC AND I'LL ASK IS THERE ANY PUBLIC INPUT ON THE CONSENT ITEMS? INPUT ON THE CONSENT ITEMS? OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THAT AND ALL IN FAVOR? THAT AND ALL IN FAVOR? AND ANY OPPOSED? AND ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. OKAY. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. AND WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT -- AND WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT -- WE'LL GO BACK TO 2C, OKAY, SO WE'LL GO BACK TO 2C, OKAY, SO COMMISSIONER, DID YOU WANT A COMMISSIONER, DID YOU WANT A FULL PRESENTATION, OR JUST SOME FULL PRESENTATION, OR JUST SOME QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT IF >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT IF WE >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT IF WE COULD >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT IF WE COULD JUST >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT IF WE COULD JUST GET >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT IF WE COULD JUST GET A >> NO, NO FULL PRESENTATION, BUT IF WE COULD JUST GET A SUMMARY IF WE COULD JUST GET A SUMMARY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, I FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, I DO BELIEVE THIS IS A, THIS IS A DO BELIEVE THIS IS A, THIS IS A GOOD NEWS STORY HERE. GOOD NEWS STORY HERE. >> YES, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, >> YES, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, >> YES, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE >> YES, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, >> YES, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. YEAH, THE ITEM YOU HAVE BEFORE YEAH, THE ITEM YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS TO APPROVE AN INCREASE TO YOU IS TO APPROVE AN INCREASE TO AN EXISTING PURCHASE ORDER THAT AN EXISTING PURCHASE ORDER THAT WE'VE ISSUED TO MECHANIK, WE'VE ISSUED TO MECHANIK, NUCCIO, HEARNE, AND WESTER. NUCCIO, HEARNE, AND WESTER. I'M JUST GOING TO CALL THEM MNH I'M JUST GOING TO CALL THEM MNH & W FROM NOW ON TO PROVIDE & W FROM NOW ON TO PROVIDE SPECIALIZED ENVIRONMENTAL LEGAL SPECIALIZED ENVIRONMENTAL LEGAL SERVICES. SERVICES. BACK IN MAY I BELIEVE OF THIS BACK IN MAY I BELIEVE OF THIS PAST YEAR, WE RECEIVED A LETTER PAST YEAR, WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM HOLLAND & KNIGHT WHICH IS FROM HOLLAND & KNIGHT WHICH IS COCA-COLA'S ATTORNEYS INDICATING COCA-COLA'S ATTORNEYS INDICATING THAT THEY HAD APPLIED TO THE THAT THEY HAD APPLIED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION FOR A CLOSURE NOTICE PROTECTION FOR A CLOSURE NOTICE FOR THE SALE OF THEIR PARCEL. FOR THE SALE OF THEIR PARCEL. THEY WANT TO GET IT'S CALLED A THEY WANT TO GET IT'S CALLED A CSRCO, A CONDITIONAL SITE CSRCO, A CONDITIONAL SITE REHABILITATION CLOSURE ORDER, REHABILITATION CLOSURE ORDER, AND SO THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO AND SO THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO NOTIFY ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTY NOTIFY ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS OF THEIR INTENT TO DO OWNERS OF THEIR INTENT TO DO THAT. THAT. AND ESSENTIALLY IT ALLOWS FOR AND ESSENTIALLY IT ALLOWS FOR WHAT ARE CALLED INSTITUTIONAL OR WHAT ARE CALLED INSTITUTIONAL OR ENGINEERING CONTROLS THAT ARE ENGINEERING CONTROLS THAT ARE PLACE ON A PARCEL IN ORDER TO PLACE ON A PARCEL IN ORDER TO KIND OF GET A CLEAN BILL OF SALE KIND OF GET A CLEAN BILL OF SALE SO THAT THEY CAN PROCEED WITH SO THAT THEY CAN PROCEED WITH THE SALE OF THEIR PARCEL. THE SALE OF THEIR PARCEL. IN RECEIPT OF THAT LETTER, I IN RECEIPT OF THAT LETTER, I BELIEVE WE WERE GIVING EITHER 30 BELIEVE WE WERE GIVING EITHER 30 OR 60 DAYS TO RESPOND TO THE OR 60 DAYS TO RESPOND TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, WHICH IS THE ONE PROTECTION, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT WOULD ISSUE THAT NOTICE. THAT WOULD ISSUE THAT NOTICE. AND SO WE HAD REACHED OUT TO BMO AND SO WE HAD REACHED OUT TO BMO AT THAT TIME AND ALSO THROUGH AT THAT TIME AND ALSO THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO SEE IF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO SEE IF WE COULD CONTACT A LEGAL FIRM WE COULD CONTACT A LEGAL FIRM THAT SPECIALIZES IN THOSE TYPE THAT SPECIALIZES IN THOSE TYPE OF NEGOTIATIONS SO THAT WE COULD OF NEGOTIATIONS SO THAT WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY'S MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY'S INTERESTS WERE REPRESENTED INTERESTS WERE REPRESENTED BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN BECAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD TO OBJECT FOR THE TIME PERIOD TO OBJECT FOR THE ISSUANCE OF THAT CSRCO TO DEP. ISSUANCE OF THAT CSRCO TO DEP. SO WE ENGAGED THAT FIRM WITH THE SO WE ENGAGED THAT FIRM WITH THE LONG NAME THAT I MENTIONED LONG NAME THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, TO PROVIDE THOSE EARLIER, TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. SERVICES. INITIALLY IT WAS INITIALLY IT WAS $10,000 AUTHORIZATION TO $10,000 AUTHORIZATION TO BASICALLY GET INTO THE FILES AND BASICALLY GET INTO THE FILES AND DETERMINE WHAT INFORMATION WAS DETERMINE WHAT INFORMATION WAS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO RESPOND TO NECESSARY IN ORDER TO RESPOND TO THE DEP AND COCA-COLA, AND THE DEP AND COCA-COLA, AND THROUGH THE COURSE OF THAT, WE THROUGH THE COURSE OF THAT, WE STARTED NEGOTIATING ACTUALLY STARTED NEGOTIATING ACTUALLY THROUGH THAT FIRM BMO OUR STAFF, THROUGH THAT FIRM BMO OUR STAFF, AND COCA-COLA ON THE POTENTIAL AND COCA-COLA ON THE POTENTIAL DONATION OF A PARCEL, AND IF I DONATION OF A PARCEL, AND IF I CAN SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT HOW TO CAN SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THAT UP ON THE SCREEN, I'LL GET THAT UP ON THE SCREEN, I'LL SHOW YOU THAT. SHOW YOU THAT. DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GET IT UP DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GET IT UP THERE? THERE? NOPE. NOPE. ANYBODY? ANYBODY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAGIC. MAGIC. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] SO THIS KIND OF SHOWS THE SO THIS KIND OF SHOWS THE OVERALL AND SO I APOLOGIZE FOR OVERALL AND SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THE QUALITY OF THE EXHIBIT, BUT THE QUALITY OF THE EXHIBIT, BUT THIS KIND OF SHOWS THE OVERALL THIS KIND OF SHOWS THE OVERALL COCA-COLA PARCEL AND THEN COCA-COLA PARCEL AND THEN OUTLINED IN RED IS A PORTION OF OUTLINED IN RED IS A PORTION OF THE PARCEL THAT'S IMMEDIATELY THE PARCEL THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE WASTEWATER ADJACENT TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. TREATMENT PLANT. AND WHEN YOU SEEK A CSRCO, SOME AND WHEN YOU SEEK A CSRCO, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE -- WHEN I OF THE THINGS THAT WE -- WHEN I WORKED AT THE COUNTY, AT THE WORKED AT THE COUNTY, AT THE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS BUILDING, EMERGENCY RESPONDERS BUILDING, THERE WERE SOME ISSUES ON THAT THERE WERE SOME ISSUES ON THAT SIDE SITE, AND IN ORDER TO SIDE SITE, AND IN ORDER TO DEVELOP IT WHAT WE DID WAS DEVELOP IT WHAT WE DID WAS INSTALLED INSTITUTIONAL INSTALLED INSTITUTIONAL CONTROLS, WHICH WAS, WE CONTROLS, WHICH WAS, WE GUARANTEED THAT IT WOULD ALWAYS GUARANTEED THAT IT WOULD ALWAYS STAY IN PUBLIC DOMAIN. STAY IN PUBLIC DOMAIN. IT WOULDN'T BE SOLD OFF TO ANY IT WOULDN'T BE SOLD OFF TO ANY PRIVATE ENTITY. PRIVATE ENTITY. THEY WERE ALSO, WE CAPPED THE THEY WERE ALSO, WE CAPPED THE SITE BY ACTUALLY PLACING A BUILD SITE BY ACTUALLY PLACING A BUILD I I NG ON IT. NG ON IT. SO IN THIS REGARD, VERY LIMITED SO IN THIS REGARD, VERY LIMITED ON LAND IN THE CITY TO EXPAND ON LAND IN THE CITY TO EXPAND OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT SO THIS IS, THIS ADJACENT PARCEL SO THIS IS, THIS ADJACENT PARCEL IS MAYBE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT IS MAYBE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NOT BE ALL THAT ATTRACTIVE TO A NOT BE ALL THAT ATTRACTIVE TO A DEVELOPER IN THE FUTURE EVEN DEVELOPER IN THE FUTURE EVEN THOUGH THERE IS SOME THOUGH THERE IS SOME INSTITUTIONAL CONTROLS, INSTITUTIONAL CONTROLS, ENGINEERING CONTROLS THAT WOULD ENGINEERING CONTROLS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT IN PLACE, IT HAVE TO BE PUT IN PLACE, IT ALLOWS US TO EXPAND OUR ALLOWS US TO EXPAND OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN THE FUTURE. THE FUTURE. SO WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING BACK SO WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING BACK AND FORTH THROUGH THIS FIRM, AND AND FORTH THROUGH THIS FIRM, AND COCA-COLA AND BMO'S ASSISTANCE COCA-COLA AND BMO'S ASSISTANCE AND JENNIFER AND MARK, I CAN'T AND JENNIFER AND MARK, I CAN'T REMEMBER HIS LAST NAME, TO COME REMEMBER HIS LAST NAME, TO COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT FOR THE UP WITH AN AGREEMENT FOR THE DONATION OF THIS PARCEL IN DONATION OF THIS PARCEL IN ADDITION TO THE LAND THERE'S ADDITION TO THE LAND THERE'S ALSO SOME EQUIPMENT ON THE SITE. ALSO SOME EQUIPMENT ON THE SITE. THERE'S A GENERATOR AND A FEW THERE'S A GENERATOR AND A FEW OTHER PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT OTHER PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN AS WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN AS A PART OF THE DONATION, BUT A PART OF THE DONATION, BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS FIRM IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS FIRM IS DOING IS PROTECTING OUR DOING IS PROTECTING OUR INTERESTS, MAKING SURE THAT WE INTERESTS, MAKING SURE THAT WE GO IN EYES WIDE OPEN FOR GO IN EYES WIDE OPEN FOR ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT LAND DONATION, AND THEN ALSO LAND DONATION, AND THEN ALSO ONCE THEY DO THAT, THERE'S ONCE THEY DO THAT, THERE'S DEMOLITION THAT'S ASSOCIATED DEMOLITION THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH TURNING THE PARCEL OVER TO WITH TURNING THE PARCEL OVER TO THE CITY SO THAT'LL BE A FUTURE THE CITY SO THAT'LL BE A FUTURE AGREEMENT THAT WE BRING BEFORE AGREEMENT THAT WE BRING BEFORE THE COMMISSION SHOULD WE GET TO THE COMMISSION SHOULD WE GET TO THAT POINT. THAT POINT. AND THEN THEY WOULD MARK IT TO AND THEN THEY WOULD MARK IT TO THE REMAINDER OF THE PARCEL FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE PARCEL FOR SALE TO THE PRIVATE DEVELOPER. SALE TO THE PRIVATE DEVELOPER. >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT JUST, >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT JUST, AND >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT JUST, AND JUST >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT JUST, AND JUST TO >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT JUST, AND JUST TO KIND >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT JUST, AND JUST TO KIND OF IT JUST, AND JUST TO KIND OF PARAPHRASE, SO MY UNDERSTANDING, PARAPHRASE, SO MY UNDERSTANDING, BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN I WALKED BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN I WALKED THROUGH THE WASTE TREATMENT THROUGH THE WASTE TREATMENT PLANT, AND THERE'S DISCUSSION PLANT, AND THERE'S DISCUSSION WITH REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, THE WITH REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS, RIGHT? LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS, RIGHT? SO THIS IS THE PARAPHRASED PART. SO THIS IS THE PARAPHRASED PART. SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP REALLY SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP REALLY IN ADVANCE OF THE ACTUAL IN ADVANCE OF THE ACTUAL DONATION OF THE PARCEL TO THE DONATION OF THE PARCEL TO THE CITY. CITY. >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, I >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, I >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, DEFER >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, DEFER TO >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, DEFER TO JENNIFER >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, DEFER TO JENNIFER TO >> YEAH, AND I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN, DEFER TO JENNIFER TO HELP MEAN, DEFER TO JENNIFER TO HELP ME OUT HERE A LITTLE BIT ON THE ME OUT HERE A LITTLE BIT ON THE LEGALESE INVOLVED, BUT LEGALESE INVOLVED, BUT ESSENTIALLY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ESSENTIALLY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR INTERESTS ARE THAT OUR INTERESTS ARE PROTECTED, NOT ONLY WITH THIS PROTECTED, NOT ONLY WITH THIS LAND DONATION BUT THE ADJACENT LAND DONATION BUT THE ADJACENT PARCEL WHICH IS WEAVER PARK. PARCEL WHICH IS WEAVER PARK. ANY CONTROLS THAT WOULD BE ANY CONTROLS THAT WOULD BE PLACED ON THAT PARCEL AS A PART PLACED ON THAT PARCEL AS A PART OF ISSUING THIS CSRCO, SO THIS OF ISSUING THIS CSRCO, SO THIS FIRM SPECIALIZES IN THOSE TYPES FIRM SPECIALIZES IN THOSE TYPES OF NEGOTIATIONS, SO THAT'S WHY OF NEGOTIATIONS, SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT TO THEM WITH BMO'S WE WENT TO THEM WITH BMO'S SUGGESTION AND ADVICE. SUGGESTION AND ADVICE. >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING TO >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING TO A >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING TO A MUCH >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING TO A MUCH LARGER >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING TO A MUCH LARGER SCOPE >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING TO A MUCH LARGER SCOPE HERE >> OKAY, AND I MAY BE REFERRING TO A MUCH LARGER SCOPE HERE THAN TO A MUCH LARGER SCOPE HERE THAN JUST THE AGREEMENT, BUT ANYWAY, JUST THE AGREEMENT, BUT ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANKS. THANKS. >> MAYOR FREANEY: GOOD. >> GOOD. >> GOOD. ANYBODY >> GOOD. ANYBODY ELSE >> GOOD. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE >> GOOD. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY >> GOOD. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? VICE MAYOR? VICE MAYOR? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. VERY MUCH. VERY MUCH. JORGE, JUST OUTSIDE THAT HEAD JORGE, JUST OUTSIDE THAT HEAD AREA TO THE WEST -- RED AREA TO AREA TO THE WEST -- RED AREA TO THE WEST , IS THAT A RETENTION THE WEST , IS THAT A RETENTION POND? POND? >> YES. >> YES. >> YES. >> >> YES. >> AND >> YES. >> AND HAVE >> YES. >> AND HAVE WE >> YES. >> AND HAVE WE EVER >> YES. >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN >> YES. >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT >> YES. >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT ANY >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT ANY >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT ANY THOUGHT >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT ANY THOUGHT IF >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT ANY THOUGHT IF WE >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT ANY THOUGHT IF WE DON'T >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT ANY THOUGHT IF WE DON'T GET >> AND HAVE WE EVER GIVEN IT ANY THOUGHT IF WE DON'T GET THIS THOUGHT IF WE DON'T GET THIS PROPERTY WHAT IN' OF WASTEWATER PROPERTY WHAT IN' OF WASTEWATER LOOKS -- WHAT THE FUTURE OF LOOKS -- WHAT THE FUTURE OF WASTEWATER LOOKS LIKE, WHAT WE WASTEWATER LOOKS LIKE, WHAT WE WOULD DO? WOULD DO? >> WELL, YEAH. >> WELL, YEAH. >> WELL, YEAH. WE'VE >> WELL, YEAH. WE'VE GIVEN >> WELL, YEAH. WE'VE GIVEN THAT >> WELL, YEAH. WE'VE GIVEN THAT A >> WELL, YEAH. WE'VE GIVEN THAT A LOT >> WELL, YEAH. WE'VE GIVEN THAT A LOT OF WE'VE GIVEN THAT A LOT OF THOUGHT. THOUGHT. IT ALLOWS US -- IT ALLOWS US -- >> NO EXTRA RECLAIMED,. >> NO EXTRA RECLAIMED,. >> NO EXTRA RECLAIMED,. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] >> IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY >> IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY >> IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND >> IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND THE >> IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND THE PLANT, >> IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND THE PLANT, MODIFY >> IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND THE PLANT, MODIFY THE >> IT ALLOWS US TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND THE PLANT, MODIFY THE WAY EXPAND THE PLANT, MODIFY THE WAY THAT -- I'LL LET NAN JUMP IN BUT THAT -- I'LL LET NAN JUMP IN BUT WE DO LAND APPLICATION FOR WE DO LAND APPLICATION FOR SLUDGE OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. SLUDGE OUTSIDE THE COUNTY. WE CONTRACT FOR THAT. WE CONTRACT FOR THAT. SO THIS ALLOWS US TO EXPAND THE SO THIS ALLOWS US TO EXPAND THE PLANT AND YOU KNOW, POSTURE PLANT AND YOU KNOW, POSTURE OURSELVES FOR THE FUTURE. OURSELVES FOR THE FUTURE. WE DON'T SEE THE CITY EXPANDING WE DON'T SEE THE CITY EXPANDING AS FAR AS USAGE, BUT THERE IS AS FAR AS USAGE, BUT THERE IS REDEVELOPMENT WHICH YOU KNOW WE REDEVELOPMENT WHICH YOU KNOW WE HAVE INCREASED LOADS BECAUSE YOU HAVE INCREASED LOADS BECAUSE YOU TAKE PARCELS THAT HAVE ONE OR TAKE PARCELS THAT HAVE ONE OR TWO DWELLINGS ON IT AND THEN IT TWO DWELLINGS ON IT AND THEN IT BECOMES MORE INTENSE TOWNHOMES BECOMES MORE INTENSE TOWNHOMES OR APARTMENTS ARE BUILT IN ITS OR APARTMENTS ARE BUILT IN ITS PLACE SO YOU GENERATE ADDITIONAL PLACE SO YOU GENERATE ADDITIONAL FLOWS BECAUSE THE CITY ISN'T FLOWS BECAUSE THE CITY ISN'T GROWING. GROWING. >> NAN BENNETT, UTILITIES >> NAN BENNETT, UTILITIES >> NAN BENNETT, UTILITIES DIRECTOR. DIRECTOR. IN THE NEAR-TERM THE ACTUAL NEED IN THE NEAR-TERM THE ACTUAL NEED TO EXPAND THE TREATMENT CAPACITY TO EXPAND THE TREATMENT CAPACITY IS NOT SOMETHING WE FORESEE IS NOT SOMETHING WE FORESEE BECAUSE LIKE JORGE SAID YOU KNOW BECAUSE LIKE JORGE SAID YOU KNOW WE HAVE EXCESS CAPACITY AND THE WE HAVE EXCESS CAPACITY AND THE PLANT IS IN GOOD OPERATING PLANT IS IN GOOD OPERATING CONDITION. CONDITION. HOWEVER WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET HOWEVER WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET BY WITH VERY LIMITED BIOSOLIDS BY WITH VERY LIMITED BIOSOLIDS TREATMENT WHICH IS THE SOLID TREATMENT WHICH IS THE SOLID PORTION OF WASTEWATER TREATMENT. PORTION OF WASTEWATER TREATMENT. RIGHT NOW WE TRUCK OUT THE RIGHT NOW WE TRUCK OUT THE LIQUID BIOSOLIDS AND WITH LIQUID BIOSOLIDS AND WITH MINIMAL A ROBIC DIGESTION THE MINIMAL A ROBIC DIGESTION THE COUNTY IS LOOKING FOR A REGIONAL COUNTY IS LOOKING FOR A REGIONAL SOLUTION. SOLUTION. WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW IF NOT THE WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW IF NOT THE ONLY UTILITY THAT STILL HAS ONLY UTILITY THAT STILL HAS LIQUID BIOSOLIDS SO WE MAY NEED LIQUID BIOSOLIDS SO WE MAY NEED TO DEWATER. TO DEWATER. THAT WOULD SAVE ON TRUCKING THAT WOULD SAVE ON TRUCKING COSTS TO TAKE THOSE BIOSOLIDS TO COSTS TO TAKE THOSE BIOSOLIDS TO ANOTHER FACILITY. ANOTHER FACILITY. OBVIOUSLY IT COSTS A LOT OF OBVIOUSLY IT COSTS A LOT OF MONEY JUST TO HAUL THE WATER. MONEY JUST TO HAUL THE WATER. THEN SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE TO THEN SOMEBODY ELSE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THE WATER OFF. TAKE THE WATER OFF. SO MOST OTHER PLANTS HAVE SOME SO MOST OTHER PLANTS HAVE SOME AMOUNT OF DEWATERING ON THEIR AMOUNT OF DEWATERING ON THEIR BIOSOLIDS TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT BIOSOLIDS TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT THEY HAVE TO TRUCK OUT. THEY HAVE TO TRUCK OUT. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT WORK ECONOMICALLY TO OUR BENEFIT WORK ECONOMICALLY TO OUR BENEFIT TO DATE, BUT WE DON'T SEE THAT TO DATE, BUT WE DON'T SEE THAT GOING ON INTO THE FUTURE GOING ON INTO THE FUTURE FOREVER. FOREVER. THE OTHER THING THAT'S AN THE OTHER THING THAT'S AN UNKNOWN IS THAT SENATE BILL 64 UNKNOWN IS THAT SENATE BILL 64 FROM A COUPLE YEARS BACK I THINK FROM A COUPLE YEARS BACK I THINK IT WAS 2022, HAS DICTATED THAT IT WAS 2022, HAS DICTATED THAT WE NO LONGER DISCHARGE THE WE NO LONGER DISCHARGE THE LICKBED PORTION OF WASTEWATER LICKBED PORTION OF WASTEWATER OUT TO THE SOUND SO WE WILL NEED OUT TO THE SOUND SO WE WILL NEED MORE RECAIMED WATER STORAGE AND MORE RECAIMED WATER STORAGE AND MORE ABILITY TO DEAL WITH THE MORE ABILITY TO DEAL WITH THE LIQUID PORTION. LIQUID PORTION. SO SO THE PLANT IS LANDLOCKED SO SO THE PLANT IS LANDLOCKED AND PRETTY BUILT OUT. AND PRETTY BUILT OUT. WHEN YOU GO THERE, I KNOW A WHEN YOU GO THERE, I KNOW A COUPLE OF YOU ARE SCHEDULED TO COUPLE OF YOU ARE SCHEDULED TO GO IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, GO IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO WE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO GO. GO. THIS IS THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO THIS IS THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND, SO IT'S A GOOD EXPAND, SO IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE WASTE. OPPORTUNITY FOR THE WASTE. >> AND FOR A LITTLE HISTORICAL >> AND FOR A LITTLE HISTORICAL >> AND FOR A LITTLE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE >> AND FOR A LITTLE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE FOR >> AND FOR A LITTLE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE FOR SOME >> AND FOR A LITTLE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE FOR SOME OF >> AND FOR A LITTLE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE FOR SOME OF THE PERSPECTIVE FOR SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE DAIS LONG, IMMEDIATELY TO ON THE DAIS LONG, IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF THE WASTEWATER THE SOUTH OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, I THINK YOU CAN TREATMENT PLANT, I THINK YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT IN THE SECONDARY KIND OF SEE IT IN THE SECONDARY AERIAL, IT WAS A PARCEL ACTUALLY AERIAL, IT WAS A PARCEL ACTUALLY OWNED BY WASTEWATER IN THE PAST, OWNED BY WASTEWATER IN THE PAST, AND IT WAS TURNED OVER TO ALLOW AND IT WAS TURNED OVER TO ALLOW FOR AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, ECOVILLAGE, SO THAT WAS PROJECT, ECOVILLAGE, SO THAT WAS LAND THAT HAD BEEN SET ASIDE TO LAND THAT HAD BEEN SET ASIDE TO EXPAND THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT EXPAND THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN THE FUTURE. PLANT IN THE FUTURE. IT WAS UTILIZED FOR DIFFERENT IT WAS UTILIZED FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSE OBVIOUSLY, SO THE FACT PURPOSE OBVIOUSLY, SO THE FACT THAT WE NOW HAVE THE ABILITY TO THAT WE NOW HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THIS ADJACENT PARCEL TO HAVE THIS ADJACENT PARCEL TO EXPAND THE PLANT WHERE THAT EXPAND THE PLANT WHERE THAT PROPERTY WAS USED FOR ECONOMIC PROPERTY WAS USED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES, AFFORDABLE DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ALLOWS US TO THEN KIND HOUSING, ALLOWS US TO THEN KIND OF MAKE UP SOME OF THAT LAND OF MAKE UP SOME OF THAT LAND THAT WAS OBLIGATED FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS OBLIGATED FOR SOMETHING ELSE. ELSE. >> MAYOR? >> MAYOR? >> MAYOR? MAY >> MAYOR? MAY I >> MAYOR? MAY I ADD >> MAYOR? MAY I ADD SOMETHING? MAY I ADD SOMETHING? >> SURE. >> SURE. >> SURE. >> >> SURE. >> THANK >> SUR

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