2025 REGULAR MEETING - City Council / Lincoln Redevelopment Successor Agency / Lincoln Public Financing Authority

COUNCIL: WELCOME TO THE CITY OF LINCOLN. 2025 REGULAR MEETINGS, CITY COUNCIL. COUNCIL: LINCOLN REDEVELOPMENT SUCCESSOR AGENCY, LINCOLN PUBLIC FINANCING AUTHORITY. APRIL LAST, APRIL 20. SECOND. COUNCIL: TODAY IS MAY 13.TH THANK YOU. COUNCIL: MY GOSH, HALFWAY THROUGH MAY CRAZY. OKAY, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER REEDY. HERE, COUNCIL, MEMBER PEARL HERE, MAYOR PRO TEM. BROWN. HERE, COUNCIL, MEMBER EKLUND, HERE, MAYOR ANDREATA HERE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL: RIGHT, CHIEF MEJIA, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? COUNCIL: OH, STANDS! COUNCIL: THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCIL: HEY? COUNCIL: ITEM 7. REPORT FROM CLOSED SESSION. COUNCIL: THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THERE IS NO REPORTABLE ACTION THIS EVENING. COUNCIL: ITEM 8. AGENDA MODIFICATIONS. DO THE COUNCIL WISH COUNCIL: TO MOVE ANYTHING AROUND, OR ANY AGENDA MODIFICATIONS? ANYTHING? COUNCIL: NO, MAYOR. COUNCIL: RIGHT? COUNCIL: ITEM 9. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION. 9. A IS A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE WEEK OF MAY 18TH THROUGH 2420, 25 AS PUBLIC WORKS WEEK. MATT, ARE YOU GOING TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION? COUNCIL: I CAN READ IT, OR THE COUNCIL CAN READ IT WHATEVER YOU WISH. COUNCIL: YOU KNOW WHAT? WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND DO IT. OKAY? YEAH, SURE. I MEAN, WE ALWAYS LIKE TO DO THAT. BUT YOU'RE THE GUY. SO YOU DO IT. OKAY, A PROCLAMATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LINCOLN, DECLARING THE WEEK OF MAY 18, TH THROUGH 24, TH 2025 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK. COUNCIL: WHEREAS THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS WEEK ASSOCIATION HAS THEMED THIS YEAR'S NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK AS PEOPLE PURPOSE, PRESENCE. COUNCIL: AND WHEREAS PUBLIC WORKS, PROFESSIONALS FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE FACILITIES AND SERVICES THAT ARE OF VITAL IMPORTANCE TO SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT COMMUNITIES AND TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE, AND WELL-BEING OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF LINCOLN. COUNCIL: AND WHEREAS THESE INFRASTRUCTURE FACILITIES AND SERVICES COULD NOT BE PROVIDED WITHOUT THE DEDICATED EFFORTS. COUNCIL: THE PUBLIC WORKS, PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE ENGINEERS, MANAGERS, SUPERVISORS, TECHNICIANS, MAINTENANCE WORKERS, MECHANICS, REFUSE TRUCK DRIVERS, ANALYSTS, SPECIALISTS, OFFICE ASSISTANTS AND EMPLOYEES AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPROVING, DESIGNING, CONSTRUCTING, OPERATING, AND MAINTAINING OUR LOCAL TRANSPORTATION, DRINKING, WATER, WASTEWATER AND SOLID WASTE SYSTEMS, PUBLIC BUILDINGS, PARKS AND TRAILS, OPEN SPACES AND OTHER STRUCTURES AND FACILITIES ESSENTIAL FOR CITIZENS, AND COUNCIL: WHEREAS COUNCIL: IT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST FOR THE CITIZENS, CIVIC LEADERS, AND CHILDREN IN THE CITY OF LINCOLN, TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE OF AND TO MAINTAIN AN ONGOING INTEREST AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC WORKS AND PUBLIC WORKS PROGRAMS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE COMMUNITIES. AND WHEREAS THE YEAR 2025 MARKS, THE 65TH ANNUAL ANNUAL NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, SPONSORED BY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS WEEK ASSOCIATION. COUNCIL: NOW, THEREFORE, IT BE IT PROCLAIMED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF LINCOLN DO HEREBY DESIGNATE THEM. COUNCIL: THE WEEK, MAY 18, TH THROUGH 24, TH 2025 IS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK. URGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS, ASSOCIATION COUNCIL: AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND ACTIVITIES, EVENTS AND CEREMONIES DESIGNED TO PAY TRIBUTE TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS, PROFESSIONALS WHO RECOGNIZE THE SUBSTANTIAL CONTRIBUTIONS THAT MAKE. COUNCIL: THEY MAKE TO PROTECTING OUR NATIONAL HEALTH, SAFETY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. SO BEFORE WE MOVE ANY FURTHER, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION SO MOVED? COUNCIL: SECOND IN COUNCIL: ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL. MEMBER PEARL. YES, MAYOR, PRO TEM. BROWN. YES, COUNCIL. MEMBER REEDY. YES, COUNCIL MEMBER EKLUND. YES, MAYOR ANDREATA. YES. COUNCIL: AND I WOULD ASK ONE ADDITIONAL THING. WE ACTUALLY HAD A COLORING CONTEST IN OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. COUNCIL: AND 3 YOUNG INDIVIDUALS THAT PARTICIPATED AND WON PRIZES IN THAT CONTEST ARE HERE. AND I WANTED TO ASK THEM TO SHARE IN THE PHOTO OP. WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND SHOWCASE THEIR WORK IN FRONT FOR THE PHOTO. SO WHO ARE YOUR WINNERS, SO THE WINNERS ARE KODIAK. HE GOT 1ST PLACE, HANNAH WAS SECOND PLACE, AND FALLON WAS IN 3RD PLACE, AND THEY'LL ALL BRING THEIR ARTWORK UP WITH THEIR PARENTS AND RELATIVES. COUNCIL: WOULD YOU GUYS JOIN US UP FRONT? COUNCIL: YEAH. COUNCIL: SO, MADAM MAYOR, WHILE WE'RE GETTING ORGANIZED AGAIN, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND ALL THEIR PERSONNEL. I MEAN, THEY'RE THE UNSUNG HEROES OF THE CITY. PEOPLE LOOK AT THE POLICE AND FIRE, BUT WHEN YOU WANT TO TURN ON YOUR WATER OR FLUSH THINGS AWAY, OR MAKE DRIVE ON ROADS. THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO YOU GUYS ARE ROCK STARS COUNCIL: ABSOLUTELY WELL. AND ALSO THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY LISTED WHEN THE SAFE CITIES REPORT COMES OUT, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE RANKED HIGH AS THE SAFEST CITY PEOPLE USUALLY LOOK AT CRIME AND FIRE PREVENTION. ALL THAT, BUT THE PUBLIC WORKS IS INCLUDED IN THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY THEY KEEP THE STREETS CLEAN. THEY KEEP THINGS SAFE AND AND MOVING AND THE UTILITIES PUMPING. AND SO WE RECOGNIZE ALL THIS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU GUYS DO APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCIL: ALL RIGHT. ITEM, 9, B PIONEER COMMUNITY ENERGY ENERGY NEW PROGRAMS. COUNCIL: GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR ANDREATA. HI, LINCOLN CITY COUNCIL. COUNCIL: MY NAME IS JAKE TRUMBULL. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF PIONEER COMMUNITY ENERGY TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE MANY EXCITING PROGRAMS WE ARE OFFERING OUR CUSTOMERS IN THE SERVICE AREA COUNCIL: AS A REMINDER PIONEER SUPPLIES THE ELECTRICITY INDICATED AS GENERATION ON A CUSTOMER BILL. BUT GAS TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION SERVICES ALSO COME FROM PG. AND E. COUNCIL: PIONEER IS THE LOCALLY OWNED NOT-FOR-PROFIT AND ELECTRICITY PROVIDER SERVING EL DORADO AND PLACER COUNTIES. THE CITIES OF AUBURN, COLFAX, GRASS VALLEY, LINCOLN, NEVADA CITY, PLACERVILLE, ROCKLAND, AND THE TOWN OF LOOMIS. COUNCIL: AS MANY ARE ARE AWARE, ENERGY COSTS, INCLUDING GENERATION, ARE RISING ACROSS THE BOARD. COUNCIL: THAT'S WHY PIONEER HAS REAFFIRMED ITS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY SAVING CUSTOMERS MONEY. COUNCIL: IN FACT, PIONEERS SAVED RATEPAYERS 108 MILLION DOLLARS SINCE LAUNCHING IN 2018, AN ADDITIONAL 31 MILLION IS PLANNED IN SAVINGS FOR 2025 COUNCIL: IN LINCOLN. SPECIFICALLY, CUSTOMERS HAVE SAVED 10.1 MILLION DOLLARS THROUGH 2024 COUNCIL: LAST SUMMER, AND AGAIN IN DECEMBER. OUR GOVERNING BOARD, WHICH IS COMPRISED OF OUR COUNCIL: COMPRISED OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM EACH OF OUR MEMBER AGENCIES. COUNCIL: CURRENTLY INCLUDING COUNCIL MEMBER PEARL APPROVED RATE CUTS FOR OUR CUSTOMERS COUNCIL: FOR 2025 PIONEER RATE PIONEERS. RATES COUNCIL: ARE AN AVERAGE OF 10% LOWER FOR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES WHEN COMPARED TO PG. AND E'S GENERATION PORTION OF THE BILL. COUNCIL: IN ADDITION TO COMPETITIVE RATES, PIONEERS LAUNCHED A SERIES OF MONEY SAVING PROGRAMS CREATED BASED ON THE FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE COUNCIL: WHICH ALLOWS CUSTOMERS INPUT INTO THE PROGRAMS. WE SELECT THESE PROGRAMS INCLUDE GRID GEN, WHICH OFFERS 0 DOWN, NO CREDIT CHECK COUNCIL: FOR SOLAR PLUS BATTERY OR BATTERY RETROFITS ON HOMES. COUNCIL: WE PARTNER WITH LOCAL RETAILERS TO PROVIDE STEEP DISCOUNTS ON LED LIGHTING AND ENERGY EFFICIENT PRODUCTS. COUNCIL: INCLUDING BOTH DOLLAR TREES. HERE IN LINCOLN COUNCIL: WE OFFER A $75, REBATE FOR CUSTOMERS WHO TUNED UP THEIR AIR CONDITIONER, AND WE ALSO OFFER THE POWERSHIFT PROGRAM WHICH INCENTIVIZES, INCENTIVIZES CURBING ENERGY USE WHEN THE POWER GRID IS STRESSED. COUNCIL: PIONEER IN THE COMING YEAR IN THE COMING YEAR OR 2 WILL BE ALLOCATING FINANCES TO LOCAL MICROGRIDS COUNCIL: THAT SUPPORT CRITICAL NEEDS OF VULNERABLE POPULATIONS MOST LIKELY IMPACTED BY OUTAGES. COUNCIL: THIS IS JUST ANOTHER AVENUE THAT PIONEER CONTINUES TO REINVEST IN THE COMMUNITIES WE SERVE. COUNCIL: ANOTHER PIONEER OFFERING IS FIELD DAYS WHICH ARE OPEN TO ALL CUSTOMERS TO ASSIST WITH ANY BILL RELATED QUESTIONS. COUNCIL: THESE FIELD DAYS ARE HOSTED IN MANY OF THE COMMUNITIES WE SERVE. SO PLEASE CHECK OUT OUR EVENTS, PAGE ON THE PIONEER WEBSITE OR VISIT OUR FACEBOOK PAGE FOR MORE INFORMATION ON UPCOMING LOCATIONS AND DATES. COUNCIL: I HAVE LEFT FLYERS WITH OUR WITH HOPE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE ON THE 1ST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, THAT HIGHLIGHT OUR RESIDENTIAL AND BUSINESS PROGRAMS. SO WE WE ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE PROGRAMS. COUNCIL: AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO PROVIDING CUSTOMERS WITH COMPETITIVE RATES, LOCAL, EXCEPTIONAL, LOCAL CUSTOMER SERVICE AND A CHOICE OF ENERGY OPTIONS FOR MORE INFORMATION. PLEASE VISIT US AT PIONEERCOMMUNITYENERGY.COM.ORG. EXCUSE ME, PIONEERCOMMUNITYENERGY.ORG COUNCIL: GREAT. THANK YOU. JAY, APPRECIATE THAT OF COURSE, GREAT PRESENTATION QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. COUNCIL: OH, I'M A PIONEER CUSTOMER, AND WE LOVE HAVING YOU COUNCIL: WELL, IT'S NICE TO GET MONEY BACK OR SAVE MONEY FOR DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. SO THAT'S GOOD. BUT I'M NOW ON THEIR BOARD SINCE JANUARY, AND THIS IS A VERY PROFESSIONALLY RUN ORGANIZATION. I MEAN, IT IS A PLEASURE, YOU KNOW TO WORK WITH THEM. THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND IN ADDITION, THEY ARE LOOKING TO THE FUTURE TO BE OF GREAT SERVICE TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY SERVE. AND OVER THE NEXT 2 YEARS THEY'RE GOING TO BE ONBOARDING. WHAT ABOUT 40%, I THINK, INCREASE COUNCIL: IN IN CUSTOMER BASE. SO IT'S IT'S A IT'S A HUGE EXPANSION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS GOING TO HELP TO LOWER ALL OF OUR RATES AS WE GET LARGER. COUNCIL: GREAT. THANK YOU MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER REFERRAL. COUNCIL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL: IT'S A PRESENTATION. SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO. BUT IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS. COUNCIL: ANYBODY ON ZOOM. COUNCIL: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT, OF COURSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCIL: ALL RIGHT. ITEM, 10 PUBLIC COMMENT ON NON AGENDA ITEMS WITHIN THE SUBJECT MATTER. JURISDICTION OF THE COUNCIL. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT TO THE COUNCIL ON AN ITEM THAT IS NOT ALREADY ON OUR AGENDA, AND YOU HAVE 3 MIN. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. COUNCIL: ANYBODY ON ZOOM. COUNCIL: NO? OKAY, THEN I'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. COUNCIL: AND WE'LL MOVE ALONG TO ITEM 11, WHICH IS OUR CONSENT, AGENDA. COUNCIL: AND SO CONSENT IS ROUTINE BUSINESS THAT IS USUALLY HANDLED IN ONE MOTION. UNLESS THE COUNCIL HAS A QUESTION OR AN ITEM, THEY WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR DISCUSSION. COUNCIL: YOU, MADAM MAYOR, CAN YOU PULL 11? I PLEASE. 11. COUNCIL: AND I THINK COUNCIL: THERE WAS ONE THAT I WANTED TO CIRCLED IT ON MY OTHER. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ONE THAT THEY WANT TO. COUNCIL: OH, OKAY. COUNCIL: ALRIGHT. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. I THOUGHT I HAD ONE, BUT I WANTED TO. COUNCIL: OKAY, ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL PULL 11, I AND I WILL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REST OF THE AGENDA, AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS 11. I COUNCIL: I MOVED SECOND. COUNCIL: WE'LL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL: COUNCIL MEMBER. YES, COUNCIL. MEMBER EKLUND. YES. MAYOR. PRO TEM. BROWN. YES. COUNCILMEMBER, PEARL. YES, MAYOR ANDREATA. YES. COUNCIL: OKAY. COUNCIL: ITEM 11. I ADOPT 2 RESOLUTIONS FOR THE LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, ANNUAL UPDATE INITIATING PROCEEDINGS AND ORDERING THE PREPARATION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2526 ENGINEERS REPORT FOR LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING DISTRICT ONE COUNCIL: AND 2 APPROVING THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERS REPORT, DECLARING THE INTENTION TO ORDER IMPROVEMENTS, LEVY AND COLLECT ASSESSMENTS AND SETTLE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR JUNE 10, TH 2025. COUNCIL: DID YOU WANT A PRESENTATION? OR DO I JUST HAVE A OKAY? YEP, OKAY, YEAH. SO SO I, I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE A REAL QUICK RUNDOWN OF OF COUNCIL: HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS. WE HAVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT LANDSCAPING, LIGHTING, AND LIGHTING DISTRICTS, BENEFIT ASSESSMENT DISTRICTS. COUNCIL: ALL OF WHICH OPERATE UNDER THIS SECTION OF OF LAW THAT REQUIRES A NUMBER OF STEPS IN ORDER TO LEVY THOSE DIRECT CHARGES TO PROPERTY OWNERS. COUNCIL: AND TYPICALLY, THE WAY IT WORKS IS, YOU PASS A RESOLUTION OF INTENTION EACH YEAR THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, THAT YOU, AN ENGINEER, PUTS TOGETHER A REPORT. THEY ESSENTIALLY ACCUMULATE ALL OF THE COSTS FOR COUNCIL: THE AREA BENEFIT, AND THEN THEY PROPORTIONALLY ASSESS THOSE COSTS BASED ON HOW THE LLD. WAS SET UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER, AND THAT REPORT IS INTENDED TO COUNCIL: SHOW WHAT IT COSTS TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES IN THOSE AREAS, WHAT ADDITIONAL DOLLARS ARE COLLECTED FOR FOR RESERVE FOR STRATEGIC PURPOSES. SOMETIMES THERE'S DEBT THAT'S IN THOSE AREAS THAT'S PAYING OFF THAT'S FAIRLY RARE. AND THEN THERE'S LIKE A MULTI-STEP PROCESS. SO THIS IS STEP 2. THEN THERE'S PUBLIC HEARING ON JUNE 10, TH COUNCIL: AND WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THOSE ADOPTED PRIOR TO JUNE 30TH OF EVERY YEAR. COUNCIL: BECAUSE IF YOU MISS THAT DEADLINE, YOU ESSENTIALLY DON'T ASSESS FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE BAD FOR EVERYONE. COUNCIL: SO IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ZONES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED HERE, AND I WON'T GO INTO EVERY SINGLE ONE. BUT COUNCIL: IF YOU, THE CITY COUNCIL'S DISCUSSED THIS OPENLY A NUMBER OF TIMES OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, SOME OF OUR LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING DISTRICTS WERE NOT CREATED CORRECTLY. COUNCIL: AND BY THAT I MEAN, IN SOME OF THEM THERE IS NO ESCALATOR INCLUDED. SO IT'S SORT OF A FLAT AMOUNT THAT'S BEEN ASSESSED SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE DISTRICT, WHICH IS GREAT IF YOU'RE PAYING IT BECAUSE IT NEVER CHANGES. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE COST TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE? JUST LET'S SAY, LIGHTING AS AN EXAMPLE DOES INCREASE ON A YEARLY BASIS. SO COUNCIL: WHAT'S HAPPENED STRUCTURALLY OVER TIME, WITH MANY, MANY DISTRICTS IN IN LINCOLN, IF THEY'RE NOT SET UP CORRECTLY, AND YOU REALLY ONLY HAVE ONE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT AT THE VERY BEGINNING, BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO CHANGE IT THEREAFTER. YOU HAVE TO GET COUNCIL: APPROVAL ESSENTIALLY FROM EVERYBODY THAT LIVES THERE. COUNCIL: IS COUNCIL: THAT. THAT OVERRUN OF COST IS ESSENTIALLY BEING BORNE BY THE GENERAL FUND TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF SCALE. WHEN I 1ST GOT HERE IT WAS COUNCIL: THINK THE DELTA WAS IN. IF YOU COMBINE THEM ALL, WAS, THE GENERAL FUND WAS ADDING IN 6 TO $700,000 A YEAR. WE'RE WELL OVER COUNCIL: 1 MILLION AND TRACKING TOWARDS 2 MILLION DOLLARS. COUNCIL: AND SO IT'S WE HAVE IT ON OUR PLAN TO BE SOMETHING THAT THAT WE ADDRESS AND RESTRUCTURE COUNCIL: AS WE DISCUSSED. IT'S GONNA BE A VERY COMPLEX AND DIFFICULT PROCESS. SO IT'S ALMOST SOMETHING WE HAVE TO CLEAR THE DECK TO ADDRESS. IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE JUST ASSESSING THE REASON WHY WE CAN. ONE OF THESE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT'S REFERENCED IS IN THE SORRENTO AREA, AND THERE IS A PARK THERE THAT WAS EXPANDED A LITTLE WHILE AGO, AND I'M GONNA KICK IT OVER TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR TO ADDRESS IT BECAUSE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED PRIOR TO MEETING WAS. COUNCIL: WHY, WHY IS THIS STILL BEING ASSESSED AT THE MAX. COUNCIL: WHEN SOME AREAS REDUCE, DEPENDING ON COST SO, AND BY THAT I MEAN COUNCIL: DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN. BUT IN SOME AREAS WE MAY INSTALL SOME. COUNCIL: YOU KNOW, DROUGHT, TOLERANT LANDSCAPING, AND MEDIANS, OR DO SOME OR SOLAR PROJECTS THAT MAY REDUCE THE COST TO THE COUNCIL: LLD. IN WHICH CASE WE PASS THOSE SAVINGS ON TO THE CUSTOMER. COUNCIL: THAT, OF COURSE, IS NOT THE CASE IN ALL AREAS. SO MAYBE, MATT, YOU CAN TOUCH ON THAT. COUNCIL: SURE. YEAH. THE SORRENTO AIKEN PARK IS RELATIVELY NEW. I KNOW. I DON'T KNOW THE WHEN THE GRAND OPENING WAS, BUT I THINK IT WAS IN THE LAST YEAR OR 2, AND THOSE ARE NEW EXPENSES. IF YOU'VE SEEN THAT PARK, THERE'S EXTENSIVE TURF. COUNCIL: WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE LANDSCAPING ASSETS WE COULD PAY TO MAINTAIN, WHICH IS USUALLY WEEKLY MOWING AND LOTS OF IRRIGATION. BUT ACTUALLY, ED. ED. ESPINOZA SENT ME A WONDERFUL RESPONSE THAT I WILL READ, SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO THIS, AND WHY THE DISCREPANCY WITH THE ZONES, AND HE'S ACTUALLY ON THE CALL. BUT I'LL SAVE HIM. SHARING THIS HIMSELF, BUT COUNCIL: SPECIFICALLY BENEFIT. ZONE 11, LAD. BENEFIT ZONE 1112, 1621, 2227, 28, AND 32 ARE COMPRISED OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT PRIVATELY MAINTAIN THE LOCAL IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR PARCELS. THEREFORE THESE ZONES ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO PAY THEIR COUNCIL: SHARE OF THE MAINTENANCE ATTRIBUTED TO CITYWIDE FACILITIES, COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL PARKS, ARTERIAL LANDSCAPING AND STREET LIGHTING ZONE 18. THAT SORRENTO ZONE HAS CONSIDERABLE LOCAL IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT. IT CAN PARK LANDSCAPING. COUNCIL: STREET LIGHTING, AND I KNOW THEY DO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING ON FRY RANCH ROAD AS WELL. IN ADDITION TO PAYING FOR ONGOING MAINTENANCE COSTS. THE CITY AIMS TO HAVE 6 MONTHS OF ANNUAL MAINTENANCE COSTS ON HAND FOR OPERATING RESERVES FOR CASH FLOW PURPOSES DUE TO THE TIMING OF WHEN THE CITY RESERVES. COUNCIL: RECEIVES ITS ASSESSMENT REVENUE FROM THE COUNTY. ALSO THE CITY ACCUMULATES RESERVES TO REPLACE THE LOCAL PARK, LANDSCAPING AND STREET LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS. ONCE THEY ONCE THEY HIT THEIR USEFUL LIFE. COUNCIL: AND JUST SPEAKING IN GENERALLY, WE'RE STRAINED IN A LOT OF THESE THESE COUNCIL: BENEFIT ZONES. EVEN SOME OF THE NEWER CFD ZONES A LOT OF TIMES THE REVENUE COLLECTED DOES NOT FULLY FUND COUNCIL: THE ZONE, AND WHEN WE HAVE, LIKE A TEMPORARY SURPLUS, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING WITH ALL THAT TURF LANDSCAPING. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO NOT INCREASE THE ASSESSMENT, KNOWING THAT EXPENSES ARE GOING TO BE HIGH TO MAINTAIN THAT PARK. BUT WE WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR, AND WE CAN REEVALUATE, BUT IN IN TERMS OF SETTING THE THE COST INCREASES. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE THINK ABOUT COUNCIL: AND AND LIKE IN SOME OF THE 12 BRIDGES ZONES. I KNOW ERIC CURLIN'S PROBABLY LISTENING, AND HE'S ALWAYS ASKING US TO REBARK, AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING TO REBARK EVERY YEAR. SO WE HAVE TO. YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE AREAS HAVE BEEN OVER 5 YEARS. SO A LOT OF THESE BENEFIT ZONES AND CFDS. THEY'RE THEY'RE STRAPPED, AND WHEN THERE'S A TEMPORARY COUNCIL: RESERVE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING. WE DON'T WANT EVERY FUND ZONE IN THE RED. COUNCIL: SO IF THIS CONVERSATION IS SPECIFIC TO THAT SORRENTO ZONE, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE THEY'RE WELL POSITIONED TO CONTINUE THE THE PARK MAINTENANCE, AND WE CAN REASSESS AGAIN NEXT YEAR, AND SEE. COUNCIL: YOU KNOW, WITH A FULL YEAR OF EXPENSES OR 2 YEARS OF EXPENSES, HOW THINGS ARE TRENDING. AND RIGHT NOW THE THE INCREASE IS WARRANTED. COUNCIL: I WAS ASKING A CONSTITUENT REACHED OUT FOR THIS VERY QUESTION, SO THAT THEY MISSED IT. OKAY, GREAT. COUNCIL: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS? COUNCIL: ARE YOU ON? ZOOM? COUNCIL: OKAY? THEN I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. ITEM 11. I MOVE TO APPROVE. COUNCIL: ROLL, CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL: COUNCILMEMBER RADY. YES, MAYOR PRO TEM. BROWN. YES, COUNCIL. MEMBER PEARL. YES. COUNCIL. MEMBER EKLUND. YES. MAYOR ANDREATA. YES. COUNCIL: OKAY. ITEM, 12. PUBLIC HEARING. 12. A ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO DESIGNATE FIRE, HAZARD, SEVERITY, ZONES WITHIN THE CITY OF LINCOLN, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY AND FIRE PROTECTION, CAL. FIRE. PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5, 1, 1, 7, 8, CHIEF MEJIA COUNCIL: ON. NOW, THERE YOU GO COUNCIL: ALREADY. DID FIRST, ST POWERPOINT UP AND RUNNING. COUNCIL: OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL, ANTHONY MEJIA, DEPUTY FIRE CHIEF. I'LL BE GIVING A PRESENTATION ON THE STAFF. REPORT ON THE FIRE HAZARD, SEVERITY ZONES ADOPTION. COUNCIL: SO TONIGHT I'M GOING TO BE COVERING A COUPLE OBJECTIVES. 1ST THING I WANT TO DO IS KIND OF GIVE AN OVERVIEW AGAIN OF THE CAL FIRE, FIRE, HAZARD, SEVERITY, ZONE MAPS. COUNCIL: I'M GOING TO GO OVER THE NEW STATE REQUIREMENTS AND WHY WE HAVE TO ADOPT THEM. I'M ALSO GOING TO REVIEW THE UPDATED FIRE HAZARDS OF SEVERITY ZONE MAP FOR THE CITY OF LINCOLN, SPECIFICALLY. AND THEN I WANT TO GO OVER THE IMPACT OF THIS FOR THE LINCOLN RESIDENTS. NEXT, I'M GOING TO TELL THE LINCOLN RESIDENTS HOW WE'VE RESPONDED TO THE REACTING TO THESE MAPS. AND LASTLY, I'M GOING TO GIVE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION ABOUT THE THE MAPS. COUNCIL: SO WHY WERE THEY CREATED? THEY WERE DEVELOPED MAINLY TO IDENTIFY AREAS OF WILDFIRE RISK. THEY UTILIZE SCIENTIFIC MODELING. THEY'RE USED FOR PLANNING BUILDING REGULATIONS, INSURANCE ASSESSMENTS AND FIRE PREVENTION. THIS HELPS INFORM RESIDENTS ON DEFENSIBLE SPACE REQUIREMENTS ALSO HELPS US AS A CITY TO MAYBE ADOPT SAFER BUILDING REQUIREMENTS AS WELL. THEY WERE CREATED BACK IN 2,007, AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY CREATED FOR THE STATE RESPONSIBILITY AREA ONLY. COUNCIL: AND NOW THAT HAS KIND OF CHANGED, THEY'RE UPDATED PERIODICALLY, WHICH IS NOT REALLY A GREAT THING. BUT THEY'RE BASED ON FIRE, BEHAVIOR, SCIENCE, FUEL, LOADING, CLIMATE DATA AND TOPOGRAPHY. COUNCIL: SO WHAT ARE THE MAPS? MEASURE THE MAPS, MEASURE FIRE, HAZARD, NOT FIRE RISK. AND SO I KIND OF WANT TO MAKE THAT THAT KNOWN TO OUR CITIZENS, THAT IF THEY ARE IN A FIRE HAZARD AREA THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEIR RISK IS VERY HIGH. IT MEANS THEY CAN DO THINGS TO MITIGATE THAT RISK. BUT THESE MAPS FOCUS ON LANDSCAPE CONDITIONS, NOT MITIGATION EFFORTS. LIKE, I JUST SAID, THEY'RE BASED ON PAST AND FUTURE FIRE BEHAVIOR PROJECTIONS. CONSIDERING FUEL SLOPES AND WEATHER PATTERNS, THEY IDENTIFY 3 LEVELS OF HAZARD WHICH ARE GOING TO BE YOUR MODERATE, YOUR HIGH AND YOUR VERY HIGH. COUNCIL: SO WHAT'S NEW? WHY, WHAT ARE THE NEW REQUIREMENTS? AND WHY ARE WE HAVING TO ADOPT THESE OR THIS ENCROACHING ON OUR LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY AREA? AND HERE IN THE CITY COUNCIL: IS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5, 1, 1, 7, 8 REQUIRES A MANDATE THAT WE ADOPT THESE MAPS. THESE MAPS NOW REQUIRE THAT WE ADOPT THEM WHEN WE HAVE MODERATE AND HIGH ZONES INSTEAD OF JUST THE VERY HIGH SEVERITY ZONES WHICH WE'RE CURRENTLY IN PLACE. ALREADY. THE GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5, 1 1 7 8.5 ALSO REQUIRES MAPS BE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND COMMENT FOR 30 DAYS, WHICH WE POSTED ON MARCH 5, TH AND WE'VE ALLOWED A LONG REVIEW PERIOD. COUNCIL: NEXT, THE GOVERNMENT CODE EXPANDS AGAIN, AND IT REQUIRES US 5, 1, 1, 7, 9 REQUIRES THAT LOCAL AGENCIES DESIGNATE AN ORDINANCE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT FOR THE FIRE HAZARD, SEVERITY, ZONE MAPS. BY 120 DAYS OF RECEIVING THEM. WE RECEIVED OURS ON FEBRUARY 10, TH AND OUR DEADLINE IS ACTUALLY JUNE 10.TH SO WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF THAT COUNCIL: DURING THE ADOPTION OF IT. IT DOES NOT ALLOW US TO REDUCE THE ZONES, SO IT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO LOOK AT THE MODELING AND SAY, HEY, WE DON'T AGREE WITH THIS. WE HAVE TO. ONLY THE ONLY OPTION IT GIVES US IS TO INCREASE THE ZONE SEVERITY COUNCIL: WHICH WE HAVE NOT DONE, AND THEN IT REQUIRES THE LOCAL AGENCY TO SUBMIT A COPY OF ORDINANCE, THE STATE BOARD OF FORESTRY, AND THE FIRE PROTECTION WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER ADOPTION. COUNCIL: SO HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THE LINCOLN RESIDENTS? REALLY, THIS IS ONLY GOING TO AFFECT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE LIVING WITHIN THOSE ZONES, THE MODERATE, THE HIGH, OR THE VERY HIGH LIKE, I SAID. CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESIDENTS IN A VERY HIGH. WE DON'T HAVE ANY VERY HIGH ZONES IN LINCOLN, AND I WROTE IN HERE POSSIBLE, BECAUSE WE ARE ALL TRYING TO WRESTLE HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE DEALING WITH THESE ZONES AND THE ADOPTION OF THESE MAPS, AND I SAY THAT NOT ONLY WITH THE CITY, BUT AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, AND WHOLE THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA COUNCIL: THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THIS. SO WITH THAT WE COULD HAVE POSSIBLE CAL FIRE, DEFENSIBLE SPACE REQUIREMENTS POSSIBLE, HIGHER HOMEOWNERS, INSURANCE PREMIUMS, POSSIBLY INSURANCE COVERAGE GETTING DROPPED. ALSO, WE COULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR REAL ESTATE INSPECTIONS FOR DEFENSIBLE SPACE REQUIREMENTS. OUR RESIDENTS COULD BE WITH MORE POWER, SAFETY SHUTOFFS AND ON HIGH FIRE DANGER DAYS. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE AREAS THAT THESE THINGS COULD ACTUALLY AFFECT OUR RESIDENTS. COUNCIL: THIS IS OUR CURRENT MAP. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE 2 COLORS ONLY ON THE MAP. THE YELLOW IS THE MODERATE AREA WHICH WE HAVE MORE MODERATE. THE ORANGE IS GOING TO BE OUR HIGH ZONES. AND SO AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE MAP, THIS KIND OF IS THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE CITY, WHICH IS PROBABLY WHERE MOST OF OUR ZONES ARE AT. IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING THERE IN THE CENTER. AND AGAIN, WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY VERY HIGH SEVERITY ZONES. BUT AGAIN, WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE HOW THESE ARE GOING TO DEVELOP OVER TIME. COUNCIL: SO WHAT HAS BEEN OUR RESPONSE TO RECEIVING THESE MAPS. 1ST OF ALL, I WANT THE THE CITIZENS OF LINCOLN TO KNOW THAT WE HAD NO ROLE IN DETERMINING THESE ZONES OR CREATING THIS MAP. COUNCIL: AND WHAT HAVE WE DONE? WE'VE REALLY TRIED TO INFORM OUR RESIDENTS. AND WE RESPONDED BY DOING THE FOLLOWING, WE'VE DELIVERED INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATIONS. WE'VE DONE THAT ONLINE MET WITH THE HOAS. WE'VE POSTED THE MAP ONLINE EARLY AND WE ALLOWED FOR A LONG COMMENT AND REVIEW PERIOD. OUR IT DEPARTMENT HAS CREATED A GREAT INTERACTIVE MAP TOOL FOR OUR INDIVIDUAL ADDRESS. LOOKUP TO SEE HOW THIS AFFECTS YOU COUNCIL: INDIVIDUALLY. WE'VE EVEN MATCHED OUR GRAZING EFFORTS TO MATCH THE SEVERITY ZONES WITHIN OUR AREA. AND THEN AS A FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE'VE INCREASED PREPLANNING IN THE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE MODELING. AND WE'RE ACTUALLY USING OUR TRAINING TO TO MEET THOSE AS WELL. COUNCIL: AND LASTLY, WE WANT TO BE COMMITTED TO TRANSPARENCY AND HELPING OUR RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF THE OF THESE MAPS. COUNCIL: SO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. THIS IS A DIFFICULT ONE, BECAUSE, AFTER REVIEWING THE THE MAPS, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE DON'T FULLY AGREE WITH WHAT THE MAPS ARE IN ALL OF THE ZONES AND AND THE FIRE HAZARD RATING THAT SOME OF THE ZONES HAVE. COUNCIL: AND SO WITH THAT, WE KNOW, AND I'M DEALING WITH THIS IN A REGIONAL APPROACH TO LISTENING TO A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT FIRE DEPARTMENTS. WE KNOW THAT THE MODELING IS NOT CURRENT. AND THAT'S OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM. SO A LOT OF OUR AREAS THAT WE HAVE, MAYBE THAT ARE HIGHER ZONES. ARE THEY ALREADY DEVELOPED AND GOT SUBDIVISIONS IN THERE? AND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, YOU'RE NOT REALLY SEEING THAT LARGE WILDFIRE THREAT IN THOSE. COUNCIL: BUT AFTER REVIEWING THEM AGAIN, YOU KNOW IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY TO ADOPT THE THE MAP MODELING SHOWN HERE WITH IDENTIFYING THIS FIRE HAZARD FOR ONE IS IT'S REQUIRED BY THE GOVERNMENT CODE 5, 1, 1, 7, 8, WHICH JUST DOESN'T ALLOW US AGAIN WITH THAT GOVERNMENT CODE TO DOWNGRADE WHICH WE, IF WE HAD THAT OPTION, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I THINK, THAT WE WOULD EXPLORE. COUNCIL: AND NEXT IS THAT I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE ASSUMING SOME LIABILITY IF WE WERE TOLD THAT THE MODELING IS SHOWING THAT WE HAVE HIGH SEVERITY ZONES, AND WE HAVE MODERATE SEVERITY ZONES, AND WE ENDED UP WITH A FIRE THERE, AND WE CHOSE NOT TO GO WITH THE ADOPTION ROUTE. I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A HARD THING FOR US TO SAY THAT WE KNEW BETTER AT THIS, AND AND WE'RE OBVIOUSLY RUNNING ON THE CAUTIOUS SIDE OF THE FENCE. COUNCIL: LASTLY, IS, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BECOME AN INDUSTRY STANDARD. I THINK RIGHT NOW, WE'RE DEALING WITH POOR MODELING. I THINK WE'RE DEALING WITH A VERY 1ST SYSTEM. THAT'S KIND OF SETTING FOOT INTO THE LRA. BUT I THINK, AS A MODELING GETS BETTER, I THINK ACTUALLY, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TOOL IF WE START TO SEE IF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ITSELF STARTS LOOKING AT THE MODELING AND GOING. HEY, THIS IS ACTUALLY ACCURATE. THIS IS SHOWING A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF OUR FIRE HAZARD RISK. COUNCIL: THEN WE CAN REALLY START TO DO A GOOD JOB TO MATCH THOSE WITH OUR MITIGATION EXPERTS IN OUR TRAINING. SO RIGHT NOW, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THIS IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE THE INDUSTRY PRACTICE FOR US. BUT THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF. IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL: THANK YOU, CHIEF, APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCIL: AND I THINK THAT I MEAN I WON'T SPEAK FOR THEM. I'LL LET THEM SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. BUT I THINK THAT WE AGREE THAT WE DON'T AGREE WITH THE MAPS. COUNCIL: WELL, WE'RE NOT APPRECIATIVE OF THE FACT THAT ALL THEY DID WAS DO GOOGLE EARTH. AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY COME OUT TO LOOK AT ANYTHING. AND THIS IS JUST FOR THE FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THE FEMA MAPS THAT CAME OUT WE HAD A CHANCE TO PUSH BACK ON THAT THEY THEY ALLOWED SOME, YOU KNOW CONVERSATION ABOUT IT, TO TO LOOK AT WHAT'S ACTUALLY HERE WITH CAL FIRE. THEY'RE NOT LETTING US DO THAT, AND SO TO REPEAT YOUR POINT. OUR 1ST THOUGHT WAS, WELL, WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO PASS THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CORRECT. BUT. COUNCIL: AS YOU SAID, IF SOMEBODY DID HAVE A FIRE WE DON'T WANT THEM TO NOT BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE FUNDING TO HELP, REBUILD, OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE THE COUNCIL DID NOT. SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE YOU KNOW COUNCIL: STATE LAW, STATE REGULATIONS, STATE AGENCIES IMPOSE ON CITY GOVERNMENTS WHERE WE'RE KIND OF BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE. SO, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR VERY THOROUGH AND COMPLETE EXPLANATION OF THE MAPS, AND SO I'LL OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCIL: YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. THAT IT'S A COUNCIL: IT'S 2. IT'S A YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION OUT OF 2 BAD CHOICES RIGHT? COUNCIL: BUT THE BETTER OF THE 2 BAD CHOICES IS TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS, SAME AS MAYOR ANDREADA SAID. COUNCIL: I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO REALLY SHOW MY APPRECIATION TO ALL THE OUTREACH THAT YOU GUYS DID. COUNCIL: I ATTENDED A COUPLE OF THOSE SESSIONS INFORMATIONAL SESSIONS. YOU GUYS REALLY DID A LOT OF GOOD OUTREACH TO OUR CITIZENS. AND SO I WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL: OKAY, ALL RIGHT, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I WANT TO SPEAK REALLY FAST. OKAY, WOULD ANYBODY? I'LL COME BACK TO YOU. OKAY, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A TESTIMONY ON THIS ITEM? COUNCIL: ANYBODY ON ZOOM? COUNCIL: OKAY, CLOSE ABOUT CARING? COUNCIL: YEAH. AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR THE OUTREACH, AND MY COMMUNITY HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION BY CAPTAIN FATIS IN OUR HOA, AND AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO HELP US INCORPORATE ANY TOOLS OR THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP MAKE OUR COMMUNITY MORE FIRE SAFE AND FIRE WISE. SO I KNOW THAT YOU ARE ALL DOING AS MUCH AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN, AND GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND. COUNCIL: I FELT UNCOMFORTABLE, FEEL VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS DECISION, BECAUSE IT COUNCIL: TO TO WHAT YOU SAID. IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE THE BETTER OF 2 BAD DECISIONS. IT'S NOT. WE DON'T AGREE WITH IT. IT'S COUNCIL: NOT CURRENT. IT'S NOT TRUE. COUNCIL: DOES IT REFLECT THE SEVERITY ON ON THE GROUND WITH WHAT OUR EXPERTS ARE SEEING? COUNCIL: AND I AM. I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE THIS, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT US TO PUT OUR COMMUNITY IN HARM AND ASSUME LIABILITY. AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. THIS IS LIKE A REALLY GRAY AREA. SO I AM FRUSTRATED. I DON'T LIKE IT. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE CHARTING. COUNCIL: WE'RE AN UNCHARTED TERRITORY. COUNCIL: YEAH. AND I WOULD JUST EMPHASIZE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS FROM THE REGIONAL APPROACH, TOO. SO WE'RE TAKING THIS THROUGH THE CAL CHIEFS ASSOCIATION TO BRING TO THE STATE AND SAY, HEY, WE WE WANT THIS MODELING UPDATED MORE FREQUENTLY, AND WE WANT IT TO BE MORE ACCURATE. I MEAN, WE WANT TO HAVE A SAY IN IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PUSH THAT FROM THE CHIEF OFFICER LEVEL AS WELL. SO HOPEFULLY, THERE'S SOME HOPE AT THE END OF THE LOOK. YEAH, THERE SHOULD BE MORE COLLABORATION. COUNCIL: YEAH, I WANT TO JUST ECHO THE APPRECIATION FOR ALL OF THE OUTREACH. AND THIS SIMILAR COUNCIL: A RESERVATION ABOUT PUTTING OUR NAME ON SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T THINK IS ACCURATE. ONE TEXTUAL CHANGE THAT I WOULD PROPOSE TO THE COUNCIL IF THEY'RE OPEN TO IT, IS THE RESOLUTION, AS STATED, SAYS, IT'S RECOMMENDED. COUNCIL: THIS IS A MANDATE, IT AND I THINK YOUR PRESENTATION SAID SO. SO THERE'S 3 OR 4 PLACES. I TALKED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THIS. THERE'S 3 OR 4 PLACES WHERE WE CAN REMOVE, RECOMMENDED, AND PUT IN MANDATED, WHICH IS WHAT THIS REALLY IS, AND IF EVERYONE'S IN FAVOR OF THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A NICE TEXTUAL CHANGE. GIVEN THE WORST OF THOSE. I FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT WORDING. COUNCIL: YES, AND IF YOU'RE ALL ON BOARD WITH THAT, THEN I CAN JUST DO IT AS A CLERICAL REVISION. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHIEF. COUNCIL: OKAY. WELL, THEN, I'M READY TO ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE. 12 A. WITH THE TEXTUAL CHANGES FROM RECOMMENDED TO MANDATED. YEP, THERE'S LIKE 3 OR 4 PLACES. YEAH. COUNCIL: ALSO MOVE. I'LL SECOND ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL: COUNCILMEMBER. BRADY. YES, MAYOR PRO TEM. BROWN. YES, COUNCIL. MEMBER PEARL. YES. COUNCIL. MEMBER EKLUND. YES, MAYOR ANDREATA. YES. COUNCIL: ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL: ITEM 13. GENERAL BUSINESS. 13. A ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE THEME AND NAMING COMMITTEE OF LEVEL RANCH ROAD FOR THE FUTURE EASTERLY HALF PORTION OF AN ARTERIAL ROAD, OAK TREE LANE EXTENSION WITHIN THE VILLAGE. ONE SPECIFIC PLAN AREA. MICHAELA. WELCOME. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I JUST WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING CONGRATS TO THE NEW MEMBERS. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE, SO I THINK THIS IS MY 1ST TIME BEFORE YOU KNOW, AFTER THE CHANGING OF THE GUARD, SO WELCOME AND GLAD TO HAVE YOU. I HAVE A QUICK ITEM FOR YOU ALL TONIGHT. IT'S THE WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU ALL TO CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR THEME AND NAMING COMMITTEE TANK COUNCIL: FOR SHORT. TO RENAME THE OAK TREE LANE EXTENSION ROAD WITHIN THE VILLAGE. ONE SPECIFIC PLAN AREA. COUNCIL: SO JUST A BIT OF CONTEXT. I'M NOT SURE HOW FAMILIAR YOU ALL ARE WITH THE VILLAGE. ONE PLAN AREA, BUT THERE'S OAK TREE LANE IS AN EXISTING ROAD. HOWEVER, THERE WAS A RECONFIGURATION OF THE ROADWAY THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY LOOP IT BACK TO MCBEAN PARK DRIVE. COUNCIL: SO THAT CREATES 2 TERMINUS ENDING TERMINUSES AT MCBEAN PARK DRIVE AND OAK TREE LANE, AND DURING AN ENTITLEMENT REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE STARDUST PROJECT. CHIEF ALVES HAD RECOMMENDED OR REQUESTED THAT WE RENAME THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE LOOP COUNCIL: TO AVOID ANY POTENTIAL CONFLICTS WITH PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSES. IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT ON ONE INTERSECTION AND SOMEONE'S PANICKING. AND HEY, I'M AT THE INTERSECTION OF MCBEAN PARK DRIVE AND OAK TREE LANE, OKAY, WHICH ONE? SO WE DON'T WANT ANY DELAYS THERE. SO THERE IS A NATURAL INTERSECTION AT KIND OF THE BOTTOM OF THE LOOP. THERE'S A NORTH SOUTH COLLECTOR ROAD THAT WILL BE PUT IN. SO WE'RE REQUESTING ESSENTIALLY THE EASTERN POINT OF THAT ROAD TO RENAME THAT COUNCIL: THE TANK MET BACK IN APRIL COUNCIL: TO DELIBERATE 2 NAMES. THERE WAS GROVE, AVENUE AND LEVEL RANCH ROAD, AND IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY VOTED FOR THE LEVEL RANCH ROAD NAME. THERE'S SOME HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE THERE. THE LEVEL RANCH FAMILY ACTUALLY OWNS PROPERTY IN VILLAGE ONE, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THIS ROADWAY, AND THEY'VE BEEN RANCHING WITHIN OUR AND WITHIN THE CITY FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS. SO WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT CITY COUNCIL VOTE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THIS BASED ON TANKS RECOMMENDATION. COUNCIL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. I REALLY LOVE THE HISTORY THAT THEY ARE ADOPTING PERSON. COUNCIL: FOR ME THE HISTORY OF THE COMMUNITY IS KIND OF THE CORE OF WHO WE ARE. THAT'S PART OF WHAT ALLOWS US TO BE KIND OF A TIGHT KNIT COMMUNITY. RIGHT? HANG ON TO THAT HISTORY, MOVE IT ON, YOU KNOW. TEACH IT FORWARD, AND YOU KNOW, BY COUNCIL: NAMING THE ROAD WITH THE WAY THAT IT IS. I'M COUNCIL: ANY COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS. COUNCIL: ANYBODY ON ZOOM? COUNCIL: ALL RIGHT, THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE. I'LL MOVE. COUNCIL: SECOND ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL: MAYOR. PRO TEM. BROWN. YES, COUNCIL. MEMBER PEARL. YES, COUNCIL, MEMBER REEDY. YES, COUNCIL MEMBER EKLUND. YES, MAYOR ANDREATA. YES. COUNCIL: GREAT, AWESOME THANKS, MICHAELA. APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCIL: HEY? ITEM 13. B. ADOPT RESOLUTION APPROVING THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE THEME AND NAMING COMMITTEE AGAIN, OF THE NAME, AND MA. REED FOR THE FUTURE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK WITHIN THE AMAR PERRY SUBDIVISION OF THE SPECIAL USE DISTRICT AREA NORTHEAST QUADRANT SPECIFIC PLAN. HI, MEL. GOOD EVENING, COUNSELOR MEL PABOLINAS AT THE SAME HEARING OR MEETING THAT THE TANK MET ON BACK ON APRIL 9.TH COUNCIL: THE THE TANK CONSIDERED THE NAME ANNA MAR REED FOR THE PROPOSED THE ACTUALLY THE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION OF A PARK. A PARK WILL BE BUILT AT THE SUDBY SITE. THE MAR OR PERIOD PROPERTY IS IN UNDER CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY PHASE, ONE OF THAT SUBDIVISION. AND WITHIN THAT SUBDIVISION IS IS THE 4 ACRE PARK. COUNCIL: AND THE TANK CONSIDERED THE NAME ANNA MARED, WHO WAS HAD CORRESPONDENCES WITH BACK IN THE 19 FORTIES DURING THE WAR WITH THE MEN AT WAR, AND THEN IT WAS ALSO PUBLISHED SOME ARTICLES IN THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER. SO ONE OF THE THE TANK CONSIDERED THAT NAME. ELIZABETH JANSEN RECOMMENDED THE NAME, AND AS WELL AS JERRY JOHNSON. COUNCIL: AND THERE WERE OTHER NAMES THAT WAS IDENTIFIED. BUT COUNCIL: THIS IS THE NAME THAT THE TANK CONSIDERED AND GIVEN HER LEGACY. AND AND SO IT'S BEING RECOMMENDED TO YOUR COUNCIL FOR FOR APPROVAL TONIGHT. COUNCIL: THANK YOU ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE. COUNCIL: I WAS ON THE TANK FOR FOR A YEAR. IT'S INTERESTING TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT THE HISTORY AS YOU AS YOU RESEARCH THESE THINGS. DOES ANYONE KNOW? HOW DID SHE GET THE THE MONICA? MA? COUNCIL: NO IDEA. I WISH ELIZABETH JENSEN WAS HERE, BUT SHE'S NOT HERE IN THE IN THE AUDIENCE, BUT SHE THERE'S A LOT OF ARTICLES THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER HOW SHE ARRIVED WITH THE NAME. LAW. COUNCIL: I'M GUESSING EVERYBODY CALLED HER MOM. COUNCIL: OKAY, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. COUNCIL: ANYBODY ON ZOOM ZOOM IS QUIET TONIGHT. COUNCIL: ALL RIGHT. WELL, I I LOVE IT. I THINK IT'S GREAT. I AGREE WITH WHAT BEN SAID EARLIER THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER OUR HISTORY AND PEOPLE WHO MADE THIS PLACE WHAT IT IS, EVEN IF IT WAS DECADES AGO THAT PEOPLE NOW DON'T KNOW BUT IT'S GOOD TO REMEMBER. SO I LIKE THAT. WE NAME OUR PARKS AND OUR DIFFERENT COUNCIL: GEOGRAPHIC FIGURES OR FEATURES AFTER OUR OUR HISTORICAL FIGURES. SO I'M READY TO TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. ITEM 13 B. SO MOVED. COUNCIL: SECOND. COUNCIL: OKAY, ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL, MEMBER. PEARL. YES. COUNCIL. MEMBER REEDY. YES. MAYOR. PRO TEM. BROWN. YES. COUNCIL. MEMBER EKLUND. YES. MAYOR ANDREATA. YES, THANKS. MEL. APPRECIATE IT COUNCIL: ALL RIGHT. ITEM 13. C. TITAN MISSILE SITE. UPDATE DISCUSSION. MR. SCULLY. COUNCIL: YEAH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL: SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED COUNCIL: WHEN THIS ITEM WAS COMING TO CITY COUNCIL QUITE OFTEN COUNCIL: WE WERE DOING PRETTY REGULAR UPDATES, AND THAT WAS WHEN SOME OF MY COUNCIL: PARTNERS IN THE AUDIENCE, WHO ARE KIND OF PART OF OUR AD HOC COMMITTEE. COUNCIL: WE WERE WORKING ON TRYING TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THIS COUNCIL: REMEDIATION THAT HAD, AT LEAST IN OUR LOCAL OPINION, KIND OF LANGUISHED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. COUNCIL: WE WERE UPDATING PRETTY REGULARLY ABOUT HOW THINGS WERE GOING AND WHO WE WERE ADVOCATING AND GETTING THE CORE OUT FOR COUNCIL: PRESENTATIONS. AND THEN A LOT OF THAT WORK KIND OF CULMINATED IN THE CORE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, FINALLY CREATING A REMEDIATION ADVISORY BOARD AND TAKING SOME MORE AFFIRMATIVE STEPS IN MOVING TOWARDS EVENTUAL CLEANUP OF THE TCE CONTAMINATION, WHICH HAS NOW MOVED MOSTLY OFF SITE COUNCIL: OF THE FORMER MISSILE SILOS. I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU SPEAK TO. COUNCIL: SOMETIMES WE CAN GET A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATED THAT THAT PROCESS HAS NOT MOVED MUCH MORE QUICKLY THAN WE WOULD HAVE LIKED. COUNCIL: BUT THE PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN MADE FROM. WHEN THIS WHOLE THING STARTED COUNCIL: TO TODAY, YOU LOOK BACK. IT'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT MORE ATTENTION DRAWN TO IT. THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF ARTICLES WRITTEN ON IT A LOT OF MEDIA ATTENTION, CONGRESSIONAL ATTENTION. COUNCIL: WE'VE HAD BRASS FROM THE MILITARY OUT TO LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT THE SITE. SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF POSITIVITY. BUT IT'S A IT'S A SLOG. IT TAKES A REALLY LONG TIME TO TO SEE THESE THINGS THROUGH TO THE END. AND SO THE GRAND JURY PUBLISHED A REPORT ABOUT A YEAR AGO. COUNCIL: AND ASIDE FROM A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MOSTLY WE AGREED WITH IN TERMS OF COUNCIL: PUSHING INFORMATION OUT WHEN WE GET IT FROM THE REMEDIATION ADVISORY BOARD. WE ALSO TALKED A LOT, AT LEAST AT A COUNCIL LEVEL ABOUT COMING BACK EVERY SO OFTEN AND JUST GIVING A LITTLE UPDATE AS TO HOW THINGS ARE GOING, WHAT ARE THE LATEST? AND SO I'M GOING TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT WITH YOU. AND THEN I KNOW THERE'S SOME PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL INFO THEY'D PROBABLY LIKE TO SHARE. COUNCIL: SO IF YOU GO BACK TO LAST YEAR WE HAD A VISITOR FROM MAJOR GREEN, WHO AT THAT TIME WAS THE COMMANDING OFFICER THAT WAS OVERSEEING THIS DISTRICT OF THE CORE RESPONSIBILITY, AND SHE ATTENDED A LARGE EVENT AT SUN CITY COUNCIL: TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY UPDATE. WE ACTUALLY, A FEW OF US WERE VERY BLESSED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A PRIVATE MEETING WITH HER WHERE WE'VE KIND OF DISCUSSED HOW THIS WORKS AND AND WHAT LEVEL OF INTEREST THERE ARE THERE IS IN THE PROJECT BACK IN WASHINGTON, DC. COUNCIL: AND COUNCIL: SINCE THEN THERE WAS REALLY 2 KIND OF KEY THINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN MY MIND. COUNCIL: THE 1ST IS, THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN, AND THERE STILL IS SOME THAT THE CONTAMINATION WAS COUNCIL: WHETHER OR NOT THE CONTAMINATION HAD SPREAD PAST THE BOUNDARIES OF THE UNINHABITED AREA OF THE CROCKER KNOLL PARCEL, WHICH IS TO THE SOUTHWEST OF COUNCIL: TITAN SITE AND INTO THE INHABITED AREA OF THE BORDERS OF SUN CITY. AND IT'S CONCERNING, IF YOU'RE NEW TO THIS ISSUE, THE CONCERN IS THAT TCE IS A CONTAMINANT THAT IS ASSOCIATED COUNCIL: WITH. IT'S A CARCINOGEN, AND SO IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH CANCERS. IT'S PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS WHEN YOU'RE IN AN ENCLOSED SPACE. COUNCIL: SO IT'S A IT'S A SOIL. IT'S IN WATER AS WELL, BUT WE'RE CONCERNED PRIMARILY WITH THE SOIL, VAPORS AND THE SOIL VAPORS. IF YOU LIVE UNDER A PLUME, THE CONCERN IS THAT WITHOUT REMEDIATION OR OTHER TECHNOLOGY THAT MITIGATES IT. IT CAN COUNCIL: UP THROUGH THE FOUNDATION SLAB OF YOUR COUNCIL: STRUCTURE, AND YOU'RE CAUGHT IN A ENCLOSED SPACE WITH IT, AND YOU'RE BREATHING IT WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING IT, AND IT'S PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS FOR PREGNANT WOMEN. COUNCIL: SO, BUT BUT NOT A CONTAMINANT YOU WANT TO LIVE WITH, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT, YOU'RE PREGNANT OR NOT. SO THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY, AND COUNCIL HEARD THAT A NUMBER OF TIMES AT PUBLIC HEARINGS HERE ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES AND AND PERSONAL HEALTH. COUNCIL: SO THE CORPS, AFTER A LOT OF LOBBYING, EVENTUALLY DID PLACE A FEW MONITORING WELLS ALONG THE BORDERS COUNCIL: TO COUNCIL: CONFIRM OR NOT CONFIRM THAT THE CONTAMINATION HAD HAD SPILLED THROUGH. AND WHAT WHAT THE FINDINGS HAVE GENERALLY SAID THUS FAR IS THAT THEY'RE GENERALLY NON DETECTED IN THOSE AREAS. SO FOR NOW THAT'S GOOD. NOW, DOES IT MEAN THAT IT DOESN'T EXIST IN OTHER AREAS? NO, BUT AS FAR AS WE CAN, AS FAR AS THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO TELL US IT DOESN'T APPEAR SO AT THE AT THIS MOMENT. COUNCIL: SO THAT'S GOOD, BECAUSE MEANS THAT WE CAN COUNCIL: REFOCUS MORE ON GETTING TO THE CLEANUP STAGE NEXT STEP OR COUNCIL: OBJECTIVE THAT HAS NOT BEEN ACHIEVED YET IS, WE WERE TOLD AT ONE TIME DURING THE SPRING OF LAST YEAR, THAT SOMETIMES TOWARD TOWARDS THE END OF 24. AND THIS IS MY MEMORY. COUNCIL: SO IT COULD BE A LITTLE SHAKY THAT THEY WERE GOING TO RELEASE A DOCUMENT. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY A PLAN FOR THE REMEDIATION. IT SAYS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT ROUGHLY, WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST. AND COUNCIL: YOU KNOW A TIMELINE OF WHEN IT'S GOING TO GET DONE. COUNCIL: THAT WAS NOT ISSUED LAST YEAR. IT HAS NOT BEEN ISSUED THIS YEAR AND BASED ON THE TIMELINE THAT EXISTS ON THE COURSE WEBSITE. CURRENTLY, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE SHOOTING FOR 26. COUNCIL: SO OUR JOB IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE THAT THAT ACTUALLY GETS COMPLETED. THEY HAVE A VERY RIGID AND SPECIFIC PROCESS TO HOW THEY ACTUALLY GET TO THE CLEANUP PORTION. THEY HAVE A LONG PERIOD OF STUDY. COUNCIL: THEY THEN HAVE A LONG PERIOD OF ENGINEERING, WHERE THEY DETERMINE WHAT COUNCIL: IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE AND COST EFFECTIVE MECHANISM TO CLEAN IT, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THAT. COUNCIL: AND THEN COUNCIL: ONCE THAT IS COMPLETE. THEN THERE'S AN APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS THAT THEY GO THROUGH AT A FEDERAL LEVEL WHERE COUNCIL: THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE ESSENTIALLY HAS TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WITH THIS LIMITED POOL OF RESOURCES. THEY HAVE TO REMEDIATE THOUSANDS OF SITES THAT ARE CONTAMINATED WITH ALL KINDS OF THINGS WHERE THEY EMPLOY THOSE DOLLARS. COUNCIL: SO COUNCIL: ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL HEAR IF YOU EVER ATTEND A MEETING UP THERE IN SUN CITY OR A RAB MEETING IS THE CONSISTENT QUESTION IS, WELL, WHEN? WHEN COUNCIL: AND THEY'RE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE. THEY CANNOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE FRANKLY, THEY DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. COUNCIL: THERE ARE A LOT OF VARIABLES, SO WE'VE COUNCIL: WHEN THE OUR GROUP WAS MEETING A LOT, ONE OF THE THINGS WE AGREED ON WAS, LET'S JUST FOCUS ON WHAT WE CAN CONTROL. SO COUNCIL: REALLY OUT LOBBYING TO GET THAT PLAN DONE. ONCE THAT COUNCIL: MILESTONE IS COMPLETE, THEN YOU MOVE TO THE NEXT STAGE OF LOBBYING TO GET THE MONEY TO GET IT CLEANED UP. COUNCIL: AND SO THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHERE IT'S AT. NOW, WHAT'S HAPPENED SINCE THE GROUP THAT COUNCIL: THAT WE WERE INVOLVED WITH IS IS NOT MEETING QUITE AS MUCH FOR A COUPLE DIFFERENT REASONS. BUT COUNCIL: THE REMEDIATION ADVISORY BOARD HAS SORT OF TAKEN THE AT LEAST PUBLIC PROCESS, AND AND THEY'RE A FUNCTION AND A AND A CREATURE THAT'S CREATED BY THE COURT. SO THEY HOLD THOSE MEETINGS COUNCIL: WE ATTEND. COUNCIL: BUT IT'S THAT'S REALLY THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. THE LATEST ARE THAT COUNCIL: THEY? THEY'VE HELD. THEY HELD A MEETING LAST MONTH. COUNCIL: WITH UPDATES, THEY TYPICALLY WILL TAKE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS AND THEN THEY WILL GO. EITHER ANSWER THOSE IN MEETING OR THEY WILL PROVIDE WRITTEN RESPONSES, AND NEWSLETTER FORMS. THE RAB IS PUTTING A NEWSLETTER OUT COUNCIL: ON A MONTHLY BASIS. I BELIEVE COUNCIL: THE OTHER IMPORTANT DETAIL IS IS, IF YOU'VE BEEN FOLLOWING US FOR A LONG TIME. THERE'S REALLY 2. THERE'S A NUMBER OF ISSUES WITH THE SITE, BUT 2 KEY ONES ARE THE TCE CONTAMINATION. THE SECOND ONE IS LEAD COUNCIL: CONTAMINATION. SO COUNCIL: FOR THOSE THAT ARE NEW. AT ONE TIME THIS AREA, AFTER IT HAD BEEN CONVEYED TO PLACER COUNTY, WAS WAS CREATED AS A OUTDOOR SHOOTING RANGE FOR SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES. AND SO ANN, WHO'S IN THE OFFICE, CAN TELL YOU THAT IF YOU WALK IN CERTAIN AREAS OF LOTS OF AREAS OF THE SITE AND JUST REACH DOWN AND PICK UP SOME COUNCIL: DIRT. VERY LIKELY YOU'LL SEE LITTLE BUCKSHOT PELLETS IN YOUR HAND, SO IT'S IT'S OUT THERE. WE WERE ABLE TO ANOTHER SUCCESS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAD IS, WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH PLACER COUNTY, AND THEY EVENTUALLY AGREED TO TO REMEDIATE THE SITE TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL COUNCIL: CALLED A COMMERCIAL STANDARD, I BELIEVE. COUNCIL: AND WHAT THAT ENTAILS IS DIGGING DOWN A NUMBER OF INCHES COUNCIL: AND CARTING OUT ALL OF THAT DIRT AND LEAD TO AN EPA APPROVED LANDFILL WHICH USUALLY EXIST IN ARIZONA AND NEW MEXICO. I BELIEVE NEVADA, MAYBE, AND THEY HAVE ASSIGNED A CONTRACTOR FOR THAT WORK AND A BUDGETED MONEY FOR IT. SO REALLY GOOD NEWS. THERE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE WITHIN OUR DIRECT CONTROL. COUNCIL: SO COUNCIL: THAT IS GENERALLY WHAT WE KNOW AS IT EXISTS TODAY. COUNCIL: THE INFORMATION THAT I WILL SAY PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON THIS. COUNCIL: THE THE CORE STAFF THAT AT LEAST I'VE WORKED WITH DIRECTLY, WHILE THEY CAN'T PROVIDE EVERY ANSWER WE WANT TO HEAR. THEY DO TRY TO BE RESPONSIVE TO US. COUNCIL: JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY ARE ALSO MANAGING MANY, MANY OTHER PROJECTS, ALL OF WHOM HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN SEEING IT CLEANED UP. COUNCIL: AND SO GENERALLY APPRECIATE COUNCIL: THEIR ABILITY, EVEN WHEN THEY'VE HAD TO COME TO SOME MEETINGS WHERE PEOPLE ARE REALLY MAD, INCLUDING ME SOMETIMES. SO THAT'S THE GENERAL UPDATE. WE CAN PROVIDE MORE DETAIL FOR YOU IF YOU'D LIKE YOU HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT AMBER HAS CREATED. SHE IS OUR RESIDENT HISTORIAN OF THE TITAN SITES, AND KNOWS WAY MORE ABOUT IT THAN I EVER COULD HELP TO OR WANT TO. AND SHE'S ALSO HERE TONIGHT. I'M SURE SHE'S GOING TO PROVIDE COMMENT. BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IF YOU HAVE ANY UPDATE. COUNCIL: HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC, OR THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD HAVE IS, I REALLY APPRECIATE, AND AND THE RAB COUNCIL: FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE, AND ALL THE COMMUNITY CITIZENS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THAT. COUNCIL: BECAUSE REALLY IT TAKES A COMMUNITY COUNCIL: WITH THE BACKING OF US TO GET SOMETHING DONE. AND SO WITHOUT THAT COMBINATION, IT'S JUST COUNCIL: SO I CAN'T SAY THANK YOU ENOUGH TO YOU FOR FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE. COUNCIL: THIS IS A VERY COMPLEX OPERATION THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. WE'RE DEALING WITH ALL 3 LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, THE WATER RESOURCES BOARD FROM THE STATE AND THE COUNTY. AT THE LAST RAD MEETING. THE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVE SAID THAT THEY SHOULD BE CLEAN FINISHED WITH THEIR COMPONENT OF IT. BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, MAYBE THE VERY 1ST MONTH OR 2 IN IN THE NEW YEAR. SO THAT'S VERY GOOD. IT'LL BE GOOD TO HAVE A WIN, YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT. AND THEN WE JUST KEEP ON COUNCIL: APPLYING THE PRESSURE, APPLYING THE PRESSURE, APPLYING THE PRESSURE FORWARD. COUNCIL: I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS REALLY QUICKLY. GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY IN ADVANCE, BECAUSE I REALIZE HOW HARD IT IS TO PROBABLY GIVE EVEN A ROUGH ESTIMATE. COUNCIL: BUT OKAY, SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THE PLAN. COUNCIL: DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA. ONCE WE GET THE PLAN. COUNCIL: WHAT THE TIMELINE IS TO GET APPROVED FOR FUNDING, AND THEN DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW LONG IT IS AFTER FUNDING TO GET TO THE CLEANUP. IS THAT LIKE A 5 TO 10 YEAR, 15 YEAR, YOU KNOW, AT ALL? COUNCIL: NO. SO WE'VE ASKED THAT QUESTION AND THE TYPICAL ANSWER, MY FRIENDS IN THE AUDIENCE CAN HELP CONFIRM OR NOT CONFIRM THIS COUNCIL: TYPICAL ANSWER THEY GIVE IS, WELL, WE CAN GIVE YOU A TIMELINE OF THE NEXT STEP WHICH IS ROUGHLY WHEN WE THINK WE CAN RELEASE THE PLAN. AND I I'M GONNA SAY THIS AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE CORE REPS THAT I WORK WITH. SO I'M NOT THROWING ANYBODY UNDER THE BUS. BUT, AS I'VE TOLD YOU EARLIER, THAT THAT COUNCIL: PLAN HAS MOVED A COUPLE TIMES SO WHAT I COULD TELL YOU, HAVING WORKED ON OTHER OTHER CLEANUP PROJECTS THAT INVOLVE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE PRIORITY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PLACES ON THIS SITE IN PARTICULAR. SO COUNCIL: THE REALITY OF IT IS IS IF THEY. IF THIS WAS A VERY HIGH PRIORITY, YOU COULD SEE THINGS HAPPENING RIGHT AFTER THE PLAN IS APPROVED. COUNCIL: I THINK MORE REALISTICALLY JUST GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT OTHER SITES THAT HAVE CONTAMINATION LEVELS 100 TIMES WORSE THAN WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING HERE, BECAUSE WE PROBABLY DON'T REACH THAT LEVEL OF PRIORITY. SO COUNCIL: I COULD TELL YOU THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE RELATIVELY REASONABLE TO SAY THAT YOU SEE CLEANUP ACTIVITIES OCCUR WITHIN THE NEXT 5 YEARS. BUT YOU COULD EASILY COME BACK IN 5 YEARS AND SAY, THAT'S COMPLETELY NONSENSE. AND YOU WOULD BE RIGHT. SO YEAH. COUNCIL: OKAY, OH, LAST QUESTION WITH THE PLACER COUNTY DOING THEIR THEIR MITIGATION CLEANUP. COUNCIL: DO WE KNOW AT ALL? IF THAT AFFECTS OUR TIMELINE, OR IF IT MAKES US LESS SEVERE. COUNCIL: YOU MEAN IN TERMS OF THE LEAD PORTION. WELL. COUNCIL: YOU KNOW, LOOK, EVERYTHING'S COMPARABLE. SO BY COMPARISON, PLACER COUNTY'S PROCESS HAS BEEN LIGHTNING FAST. COUNCIL: THAT SAID I THINK THAT WE GOT TO SOME SORT OF GENERAL AGREEMENT WITH THEM ON THIS MATTER OVER 2 YEARS AGO, MAYBE 2 AND A HALF YEARS AGO. COUNCIL: AND IT. AND INTERESTINGLY, IT CAME ABOUT AS A RESULT OF THE CITY AT ONE TIME. COUNCIL: AND WE WERE IN NEGOTIATIONS TO PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY FOR THEM COUNCIL: FROM A REGIONAL PARK, AND AND ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME HAD WAS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN TAKING ON A PROPERTY THAT HAS ANY CONTAMINATION, LET ALONE LEAD CONTAMINATION. AND SO. COUNCIL: YOU KNOW, SUPPOSE IF IT'S CLEANED UP, WE CAN TALK AGAIN. THAT SAID THERE WAS A RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE THE COUNTY HAS WITH THE WATER BOARD TO TO CLEAN IT UP. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY HAD A CHOICE. BUT THEY DID DO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. THEY DID WAS RIGHT. THEY THEY CLEANED IT UP TO WITH THE MOST EXPENSIVE TREATMENT OPTION THAT THEY COULD AFFORD. COUNCIL: AND YOU'VE BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY YOUR TURN. COUNCIL: MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND RICHARD PEARL FOR MEETING ME AT THE SITE WITH PAUL BRECKENRIDGE FROM THE COUNTY, AND LISTENING TO ME RAMBLE. AND OF COURSE, SEAN, I'VE BEEN WITH THIS FOR OVER 2 YEARS. NOW, WHEN I SAW THE LEAD ISSUE ON THE SILO DOORS OUT THERE. COUNCIL: RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE THAT THE SITE AT 62 YEARS OF AGE IS GETTING READY FOR MEDICARE, AND BY THE TIME THIS THING IS FIXED IT'LL BE READY FOR ASSISTED LIVING. SO I HAVE GIVEN YOU ALL A HANDOUT THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT LATER. IT'S GOT A LETTER THAT I SENT TO ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND EVERYBODY EXPLAINING THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE TCE COUNCIL: ON THE THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S BEING HANDLED. IT'S THE ACTUAL 46 ACRE SITE. IT IS DANGEROUS. AND 2 MONTHS AND BACK IN FEBRUARY, AND THEN AGAIN, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, MATT MARLATT, WITH THE CORE. COUNCIL: SAID THAT THE COUNTY IS THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CLEANUP OF THE UNDERGROUND, THE MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF LEAD DDT. ASBESTOS AND PCB. CONTAMINATED WATER THAT IS LEAKING OUT OF THAT FACILITY, PLUS THE FACILITY STRUCTURES THEMSELVES WERE DAMAGED DURING CONSTRUCTION. COUNCIL: AND WHILE ALL THIS WATER HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH, SO YOU HAVE A DANGEROUS STRUCTURE THERE THAT THE CORPS SAID, THAT'S THE COUNTY'S ISSUE. WELL, IT'S ALSO A CITY ISSUE, BECAUSE IT'S CITIZENS THAT ARE LIVING HERE. BUT THE COUNTY IS WRONG. I MEAN, I'M SORRY THE CORE WAS ABSOLUTELY WRONG, SAYING THAT THE COUNTY MUST BE THE ONES THAT CLEAN IT UP IF THEY WANT TO. COUNCIL: BACK IN THE LATE SIXTIES THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE WAS TOLD IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS. YOU WILL CLEAN UP PRIVATE PROPERTY, INCLUDING THINGS LIKE THE COUNTY PROPERTY. YOU WILL CLEAN UP ALL OF THE CONTAMINATION AND DEMOLISH STRUCTURES AND REMOVE THE DEBRIS. YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE LETTER THAT I WROTE. COUNCIL: SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. THERE'S PICTURES IN HERE OF WHAT A STRUCTURE LIKE THE POWERHOUSE. THE POWERHOUSE IS 127 FEET ACROSS AND ABOUT 50 FEET DEEP, WITH NO INTERNAL SUPPORT SYSTEM, AND IT'S ONLY 10 FEET COUNCIL: FROM THE SURFACE WHEN THEY COME IN TO REMOVE THE LEAD. I EVEN MENTIONED TO THE CORPS WHEN THE WHEN THE COUNTY COMES IN TO REMOVE THE LEAD AMMUNITION, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE BIG SIEVE MACHINES ON TOP OF THESE STRUCTURES THERE WAS A REPORT WRITTEN IN THE LATE SIXTIES BY OR FOR THE CORPS THAT SAID COUNCIL: THESE. THESE BUILDINGS WERE NOT POORLY BUILT, BUT THEY WEREN'T SATISFACTORILY BUILT, AND THEY DESCRIBED WHY THE THE COMPACTION ISSUES, THE FOUNDATION ISSUES WERE BAD. IF THERE HAD BEEN A LAUNCH. COUNCIL: WELL, THOSE STRUCTURES ARE BAD, AND I'VE WRITTEN EVERYTHING IN HERE TO PROVE COUNCIL: THAT THEY ARE BAD. GIVEN DOCUMENTATION, AND THE CORPS HAS GOTTEN IT, AND THEY'VE IGNORED ME FOR 2 YEARS ON ALL OF THESE ISSUES. SO I'M HOPING THE CITY WILL SAY, HEY, LET'S STAND UP AND ASK THE CORPS. PLEASE LOOK AT THIS. SO THANK YOU. COUNCIL: ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL: THANK YOU, ANNE. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT PARDON, I SAID. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. COUNCIL: ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? COUNCIL: BUT, JASON, I LOOK AT ON THIS FIELD EVERY DAY. COUNCIL: AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT JUST KEEPS COMING UP IS, HOW LONG DOES THE THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY COUNCIL: HAVE TO WAIT TO DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY? COUNCIL: HIDDEN? HILLS WENT AHEAD. OAK TREE WENT AHEAD, AND THEY'RE BUILDING PAVED ROADS RIGHT OVER ONE OF THE WORST AREAS THAT HAS TCE UNDER IT RIGHT NOW. COUNCIL: AND EVERYBODY IS SAYING, OH, WELL, THEY HAD THEIR CHANCE. WELL, IF THEIR CHANCE REALISTICALLY, WHAT I HEAR IS BEST CASE. THEY MIGHT START IN 3 YEARS. COUNCIL: MAYBE, BUT THEY WON'T GIVE YOU A DATE. COUNCIL: SO RIGHT. NOW THERE'S THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT A VERY FINE GENTLEMAN OWNS. COUNCIL: THAT IS NOW MOWING THE WEEDS DOWN BECAUSE THE ARMY CORPS WOULDN'T DO IT. COUNCIL: THEY HAVE 40, SOME WELLS THERE OF ONE TYPE, 20 OF ANOTHER TYPE. COUNCIL: THEY'RE DRIVING CARS OUT ON IT INTO THE HIGH WEEDS, AND IT COULD START A FIRE AND BURN DOWN SNAPDRAGON AND PRUNELLA COURT. COUNCIL: I'VE CALLED THEM. I'VE TOLD THEM. I ASKED THEM. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY ASKED THEM. COUNCIL: WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO GET ACCESS TO THESE WEALTH. THEY IGNORED HIM. COUNCIL: SO HE STOOD UP AND SAID, OKAY, I'M GOING TO DO IT MYSELF. I'M GOING TO PAY TO COUNCIL: KNOCK DOWN THE WEEDS ON THIS 2526 ACRES, SO I'VE TOLD HIM. GREAT THANKS. I THINK I'VE COPIED SOME OF YOU ON THAT. COUNCIL: AND SO I JUST DON'T KNOW. HOW LONG DOES A MAN HAVE TO WAIT? COUNCIL: AND HE JUST GET A PERMIT COUNCIL: IN 3 WEEKS AND SAY, HECK WITH YOU, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BUILD THE 100 HOMES OVER ALL THIS, LIKE HIDDEN HILLS, IS DOING THAT NOW HAS TO PUT PLASTIC LINERS UNDER THE HOMES THAT NOW HAS TO PUT VENTING IN THE BATHROOM ON THE PARK. COUNCIL: SO THEY'RE ABSORBING ALL THIS COST BECAUSE THE ARMY CORPS IS BEHIND COUNCIL: EVERYBODY THAT YOU TALK TO OFF THE RECORD SAYS WE HAVE TONS OF INFORMATION WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE. WE COULD START TOMORROW. IT'S JUST NOT A PRIORITY FOR US. YOU'RE NOT IN OUR TOP 10 LIST. COUNCIL: AND WE'RE PROBABLY NOT. BUT AGAIN, HOW LONG DOES A OWNER OF 2526 ACRES COUNCIL: HAS TO WAIT, OR SHE JUST SAY, HECK WITH IT. I'M GOING TO BUILD OVER IT. LET THE ARMORED CORPS TUNNEL UNDERNEATH MY BUILDINGS, SO I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT AS A CITY AND NOT TELL COUNCIL: THE UNITED STATES ARMY CORPS, AND WE NEED A MEETING HERE NOW WITH NOT THE PROJECT MANAGER. THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. COUNCIL: NOT EVEN THE MAJOR. SHE KIND OF KNOWS THERE'S PEOPLE ABOVE THEM THAT ARE DECIDING COUNCIL: WHEN, WHERE, AND HOW, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET TO. I'VE TRIED. THEY DON'T RETURN MY CALLS. COUNCIL: SO WE NEED THE CITY'S HELP TO PUSH THEM FORWARD SOMEHOW. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCIL: YES, GO AHEAD, AND COUNCIL: THERE'S THERE'S A SECTION OF CROCKER KNOLL, ADJACENT TO OAK TREE LANE, AND IT'S IN YOUR PACKET THAT I FOUND HAD A PERMANENT RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT PLACED ON IT THIS BY THE GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION. THE SAME DAY THE COUNTY BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY COUNCIL: ABOUT THE 46 ACRES ACROSS THE STREET. THAT PERMANENT RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT HAS BEEN REMOVED, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY. THAT CROCKER KNOLL IS PROBABLY WHERE THEY HAD THE BATCH PLANT THAT PROCESSED AT LEAST 30,000 CUBIC YARDS OF CONCRETE THERE. IT ALSO HAD A FUELING STATION THERE BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T PUT THE FUELING STATION ON THE ACTUAL SITE BECAUSE OF VAPORS BEING SUCKED IN BY THE COUNCIL: THE FRESH AIR VENTS, AND YOU'LL SEE A FRESH AIR VENT IN THERE IN YOUR PACKET. BUT THIS PERMANENT RESTRICTIVE EASEMENT HAS BEEN REMOVED, AND IT WAS PUT THERE FOR A REASON, AND I'M NOT SURE WHY IT WAS REMOVED, AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL ASK THE CORE TO COUNCIL: GIVE YOU ANSWERS AS TO WHY THAT RESTRICT. IT WAS 9 ACRES. YOU'VE GOT IT IN THERE IN YOUR PACKET EXPLAINING WHO GOT WHAT WHEN THEY GAVE THE PROPERTY BACK. SO IF YOU CAN LOOK INTO IT, I'D APPRECIATE IT. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. COUNCIL: YEAH. SO TO ANSWER STAN'S QUESTION. COUNCIL: I'VE TALKED WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER ABOUT THAT A NUMBER OF TIMES, AND MY READ AT LEAST, IS THAT COUNCIL: THERE IS NOTHING, AT LEAST HERE ON A LOCAL LEVEL. COUNCIL: OR THAT I CAN FIND ON TITLE THAT WOULD RESTRICT HIM FROM COUNCIL: SUBMITTING FOR DEVELOPMENT OF OF THE PROPERTY. I KNOW THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE PLENTY OF SITES IN CALIFORNIA THAT HAVE ACTIVE TCE PLUMES THAT ARE IN REMEDIATION OR OR NOT, THAT HAVE BUILT ON COUNCIL: AREAS THAT ARE FAR MORE CONTAMINATED THAN THAN THIS SITE IS. AND IN FACT, WE HAVE. LENNY SIEGEL IS A GENTLEMAN WHO WORKS OUT OF THE BAY AREA, AND HE ADVOCATES FOR CLEANUP OF OF CONTAMINATED FORMER FORMER FEDERAL SITES, KNOWS A LOT ABOUT ALL OF THIS. HE'S A FORMER MAYOR. DO YOU REMEMBER HIM IN PALO ALTO? COUNCIL: FORGET THE CITY, A BAY AREA CITY OF SOME KIND? AND HE, HE REMARKED TO US THAT THERE ARE AREAS OF THAT COMMUNITY ADJACENT TO FOREIGN MILITARY INSTALLATION THAT HAVE HAVE CONCENTRATIONS THAT ARE MUCH, MUCH HIGHER. AND THEY HAVE RESIDENCES THAT LIVE OVER THE TOP OF THEM. IT