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The agenda back at the back. Talking into the mic. I am talking into the mic now. I'm talking into the mic. Okay. Okay. I'd like to, um, do a roll call, please. To my right. Let's start at the right. Good morning. Um, Carrie Duckett, deputy District Manager. Mark Brianna is district counsel And to his right is Jennifer Farlow, the district clerk. Would like me to do that. Yes. Keep going. Um, and in the back, um, if you don't mind, staff, could you please stand up? We have Mr. Bruce Brown, who is the assistant district Manager, Matt Armstrong with Community Standards. Karen Cleary with budget. Jennifer Leon Norris Finance and Melissa Shar purchasing. And to my left, um, we have Ellen Cora. Okay. Thank you, judge. Let us now stand for a pledge of allegiance to the flag and a movement of violence for so many things that are going on. I Pledge of Allegiance, the of the America. And from in. Thank you. I had like to welcome everyone that's attending our meeting today. We'd like to see this every month, but I bet you have an issue and that's why you're here. That being said, we, uh, encourage audience comments if they are not on the agenda. And at this point in time, if, if you would like to come to the podium, you need to give your name, your address and let us know why you are here. Thank you. Good morning. Thank you for having this meeting today. My name is Bernie O'Donnell. I live at, uh, 2040 Palo Alto Avenue, uh, where the lake used to be called. I just realized a Largo Lego is now called the water basin. I'm not sure when that changed. And I'm here 'cause I'm concerned about the maintenance of this lake. I've had some very pleasant conversations with district management. Mr. Manger, I think that's Mellinger. I didn't pronounce his name correctly. And I think that, uh, the resolution of this problem should be fairly easy with a new contract for maintenance for particular, this particular lake and other lakes in this property. If you want more, I can give you more information. If you want to add that later or what, I can give you the reason for this. Would you like to hear that now? Sure. Okay. First of all, I, many, many of us who have had contacts with other people in maintenance, uh, have received different messages about maintenance of this light. Uh, from what I understand today, this is from, uh, Mr. Mallinger as well. That basically the maintenance of the lake is done now strictly with chemical processing alone to remove the algae, which is above the hydro, which is in Ottoman Lake. Um, this has been done for a number of times in the interest of removing the algae, which affects not only the aesthetic value, the property values, the people who live along this lake, but also affects potentially I'm concerned for the aquatic life as well as the marine life with whatever chemicals being used. Uh, in the past when Sam was here, the things were done a little differently and they were done very effectively. What happened during that time period was, uh, when they had this floating, I, I, uh, alj a man in a boat would come by and scoop it up with a, with a net, and it was done perhaps in one day. It seemed like it was a very inexpensive technique. The other thing that was done in the past about the hydro was carp fish were harvested and put into this lake to help the quality of the marine life in the lake. And the carp also provided the benefit of eating Nigel. Uh, the argument that was being given as why it's being done that day is some benefit from Florida guidelines. Uh, I don't doubt that they exist, but they certainly don't, aren't appropriate actually getting rid of it right. Today, because of the hurricane, it can't see it. Um, the only thing different about this lake and other lakes, it does have a liner in it. Uh, that's a long story. I'll make it very short. The liner was put in around 2001 and, uh, it was done because Salt Lake wasn't constructed properly by er, barley, which was the engineering construction company at the time, took a lot of meetings. This board of far superior, I think, to the board in and I was dealing with in 1998. They, they, they did know how to handle it. And fortunately, the villages, the villages themselves, came up and said, we'll fix this problem. Because the lake was dry three times 98, 2000 period. And they realized that the bottom of the lake didn't have the appropriate material on it. If you look up a government rule for lake slash detention ponds, the requirement was given by an engineer, an engineer of 10 to the minus seven centimeters per second, which would mean anything to anybody because it's a laboratory measurement to translate that into physical things, six inches of compacted clay. Now we have that in there. So we've had copper sulfate against some of the LJ blooms that done, the lake has been maintained well in the past. People are very happy with it. But this past year it's not been hanging around. The argument being given, uh, was that the chemicals are supposed to get rid of the hydro, which is holding up the algae. Uh, that that apparently happened. And I, I was told by assistant district manager that they are going to add to their current contract the having, allowing harvesting of this material like it was done in the past. And hopefully we will inform the board of the impact on the next maintenance contract for next year. 'cause I realize there's no money for this year in the current maintenance contract. Um, so, uh, hope, hopefully this problem will be resolved fairly easily. I don't think it's a big cost item. So the questions that should be asked about this is what is the really appropriate way to manage this lake in the future? Not now. Can't change what's happened in the past. And the question comes up, why can't car be added? Get rid of the hydrilla because they like the hydrilla, they eat it. And why can't we have harvesting when guy comes out in the lake and one day literally gets rid of this stuff? And the reason are twofold. Uh, aesthetically it affects the, the look of the lake looks rock a small lake. So it affects that property value. Everybody that's along this lake, in this lake, I didn't realize it now, called a water basin. I'm not sure when that was changed. It used to be called El Largo Lego, which is a large lake years ago. And, um, basically, um, I think that, uh, the changes will be brought. Pretty simple. Um, what I'm requesting the board to do is to look closely at the next contract for maintenance to include the harvesting by scooping it out. Literally, it took a guy one day. It can't be a big cost outta. Okay, thank you. Thank you very much. Bernie. Does, Is this floating gal? No, uh, Bernie that question. Is this floating algae? Yeah, he said yes. Okay. Yeah, that's, oh, okay. I said floating on the record. Well, Sure. The storm still There. Okay. I, I need you to say it at the podium. Okay. Um, however, I, I would like to have a show of hands of the number of people that are here that are going to bring up the same issue that Bernie brought up. Most of you are here for that issue. Okay. So, so madam Chair, if you would like, Mr. Brown could come up and, um, answer some of the questions and let the board know what our plans are moving forward. And then if the residents still have questions or comments, if you'd like to allow them their time as well. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Good Morning. Bruce Brown, assistant district manager. So district property management's obviously well aware of this basin. And, uh, the challenges with it. The gentleman who spoke is not incorrect. Carp would, uh, grass carp would do well in there. They do eat hydra, and I would recommend that the board consider that as an option if you so, which to pursue that, uh, we're limited for how much chemical treatment we can do by law. We can only treat it so often and that has been treated. Unfortunately, hydrilla treatment is not a fast process. And as part of the process, the hydra breaks down, creates algae, and then eventually sinks. So it's a slow process that's not pretty to watch. And it's not fast. Um, not, not the answer that residents want to hear, but that's just the reality of it. We do not have a contract and we do not do mechanical raking. But I would recommend, given the, uh, amount of issues we have in some of these areas with more problematic basis, that might be something that the district wishes to con con, you know, wishes to pursue. Uh, it certainly is possible, but it is not, it is, uh, not inexpensive to mechanically rake hydrilla out of basins. You're talking many, many acres worth. But it is an option. Part of the challenge with raking is when you break up hydrilla and you don't get it all out, it multiplies and it becomes a bigger problem. So it's a temporary solution to make it look better, but the long run, it still becomes a challenge. So the chemical treatments are critical to continue, and obviously that's why you have the contract in place to perform that service. What's the timeframe that we should have looked forward to? I, you just said it's a slow process. Yes. But, but this lake has been like this for almost the entire year. That's a pretty slow process. Yeah. So part of the problem that they're facing in this particular basin and others throughout the villages, this isn't unique to just this one area, is that the, uh, it's been a hot summer and there's been a lot of water and rain and Hydrilla likes that. And it multiplies and grows very quickly. So it's, uh, you know, since you're limited for how much chemical treatment you can apply, you are combating the hydrilla, but at the same time, it's growing at a furious rate. And it's overtaking the, uh, treatments. So really only option at that point is to look at mechanical removal. When the weather starts cooling, as it just has, you'll start to see that cycle reverse itself. And the hydrilla will slow down on growth and the chemicals will overcome it. So you're suggesting that perhaps we should wait and see and we might be able to control it with chemicals, You'll definitely be able to control it through chemicals as the weather cools down. This is a cyclical PRI problem. So you will see it's pulled back up again in the summer. Ideally, um, you know, there are some alternative chemicals that the contractor can use that are a little more aggressive that they probably can use in the spring to prevent it from recurring as bad as it has. Okay. So do these chemicals affect carp if you wouldn't stock the, that pond with carp? No. No. They wouldn't affect the carp. The carp is an effective option. I mean, I, I actually would recommend doing that. The grass carp, their number one source of food is hydra. Well, what about goldfish? We could go down to Walmart and buy the whole supply. I'm not familiar with what goldfish eat, but I am familiar with what grass carp eat. Okay. I, I thought at one point in time we had carp in that pond, didn't we? Yes, absolutely. So they, they were really big, but then we had a fish kill and that was a very good smelling event for most of the neighbors. But also, I am curious because I've noticed wildlife around that lake is almost nil compared to what it used to be. So are those chemicals affecting our wildlife? No, the chemicals are safe. I mean, they're, they're, you know, EPA controlled, so you can, you know, they're safe, they're safe to apply. Uh, obviously you have certain limits that you can apply them, you know, the amount, uh, and frequency. And that's designed to protect the wildlife, the fish, the vegetation, et cetera. Well, quite honestly, I feel like the neighbors are running out of patients. I don't know how to address that for sure. But I think we need to maybe be a little bit more aggressive and talk as a board about having the, at at least some of that hydra pulled out of there because it is so terrible. Um, carpet, that's just my opinion. I'm sorry for, you can speak up and say what you think, but Car cheap, Car cheap. That's what you suggest. Huh? That Was my next question, Bruce. Cost a roughly, I'm sorry, excuse me. A estimate of cost for either option? Uh, right off the top of my head, I don't, we can certainly get that to you very quickly. What else? Not that, I mean, we, we've put, we've put carp in other basins for these type of issues. It, it's not a big expense. The mechanical raking is expensive 'cause it's labor intensive. It's a slow process. There you go. I I would try to avoid that if you could. So, so car readily available to be able to stop that lake with more Yes, we have. We can get a hold of those fairly easily. That's what I would recommend. My suggestion would be to, um, kind of ask you what the most time and cost effective way to deal with this would be. I realize it's not gonna happen overnight, but regarding the cooling of the weather, we have that in our favor. The carpet chief, if this were your lake privately, what would you do? I would put CARF in it. Yeah. And anything else? No. I mean, you're already doing the chemical treatments. Yeah, those will continue year round. Mm-hmm. And maybe go to the more aggressive chemical that you mentioned. I certainly look at it, it has been used in some areas. It's very expensive compared to the other chemical that they normally apply, which is generally very effective as well. But there are, there are alternatives that we can certainly look at. So madam chair, excuse me. Um, if the board, um, so chooses, we can certainly move forward with the carp immediately, and then at your next board meeting, have an overview on the other type of chemical and whether or not it would be applicable in your, um, this specific pond as well as the cost for the mechanical raking, should you choose to move in that direction as well. Okay. So do I need a motion or a consensus? There was a third option too, wasn't it? I didn't think that. No, So so you do wanna vote? Um, so yes, we would need a motion. Uh, I just have a question. Would there be any, uh, economies of scale if you have to do this with other water basins? I think that's a great question. We'll certainly look at it. I think there are opportunities, but there's some other basins we can probably look at trying to do this and reduce the cost. Get A volume discount perhaps. But we will do that. And madam chair, we do not need a vote. The consensus of the board. Okay. I'm in favor of the carp. Definitely Go For it. We'll make it happen. Lots of them. And we'll have this on old business. Um, so both for the benefit of the board and the residents on their agenda next month, this item will be on there. Um, notifying you that the cart has in fact been put into the pond as well as the estimated cost for the mechanical, whatever it was called, I'm sorry, harvesting. And, um, whether or not we could use the other chemical and possibly have economy of scale. Okay. Is there anyone else out there that would like to address this particular issue? Okay. Nope. At the speak into the mic. I've been a resident of, uh, name and address, sir. Into the Microphone. Yep. Speak into the mic. There you Go. Okay. Don't use it. Yes, use it. Oh, okay. Well, um, I've been a resident, uh, on Name and address. You still have to say your name, name And address. Okay. William Temel, T-H-U-E-M-M-E-L 2 0 7 6 Palo Alto Avenue. Been here since oh one. We bought that lot because we love the wildlife. Uh, and, and it's, it's been really a pleasure to live along there. And we spent a lot of time on our lanai, uh, watching the activity. Uh, just as perhaps a quick aside, we got a big thrill the first year we were there when a Florida panther came by to get a duck for supper about dawn, uh, about dusk. And I, I couldn't believe it. And then we also had a whooping crane come by a year after. And then we got all these other, uh, birds and so on in there waterfall. And, uh, it is just been wonderful. And we watched the management of the lake. Uh, we've seen airboats out there breaking up a, a little, uh, scum on the edge at, uh, uh, algae. And, uh, we also, uh, saw a thing come by behind a, uh, uh, actually an airboat. And they were, uh, dragging that to break, break it up to with, uh, well, and the, the, um, hydrilla is, uh, of course on the bottom. And those grasse carp were entertaining to watch, as well as to eat all those goodies down there on the bottom. They'd come by and you'd see on the edge there a little flicker and you see the dorsal fin up there. And they got to be pretty good size. Last year. That was July, late July, uh, there was a Thursday, and, uh, someone, uh, decided to, uh, kill the grass along the edge of the lake. 'cause it, I guess looked like weeds, which didn't bother us. But, uh, they came by with the big booms out spraying there. This was on Thursday. Well, we were going to church on Sunday. I looked out and I told my wife, gee, it looks like a whole bunch of white bags are out there that got, maybe the wind drove all the way around the lake, two or three dozen of them. Then we realized these were dead carp. And, uh, on Monday there was a little, uh, truck and trailer out there, and they're picking up these carf and they were so large that they put one to a bag in strain to put it on there. So they get pretty big and they can consume a lot of hydrilla. Uh, so can, uh, large mouth bass. And, uh, well, okay, then you have the waterfalls. We haven't seen any waterfall out there for some time. We used to have ducks of all kinds around. Those ducks would, uh, come in there, uh, by the hundreds bill and, and, and, and then we'd be out there and at night when they'd take off, those whistlers would take off and the air would just bill sing With it. I'm gonna, I interrupt you because we do have a three minute time. Speaker, speaker. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't hear about that. I let, I let Bernie ramble on. Yeah, well I, but I'm gonna try and reign you in a little. Okay. Well, it's been a, um, I think it is been a disaster Technologically here. My name's John West 2036 Palo Alto Avenue. Um, I've been here 21 years and I've, uh, seen the lake, um, be really nice at times. And other times I've seen it not quite as bad as it is now. Uh, behind my house kinda looks like a swamp. Um, The carp can take care of the hydra, but you're gonna have to scoop this stuff off the top. You're gonna have to cut it and get it out of the lake because they're not going to eat that dead weeds. That's the only thing I gotta say. And I know you're gonna she that for a month or two or three or whatever it is. Um, a couple of months ago, I had a guy come out to the house from the district and he and I talked about that. And they're keep using, they keep using the chemicals. Well, the chemicals ain't working. Now they can say that, uh, whatever they want to say, they can kill 'em, but it is not getting rid of the swamp. Look, that's all I gotta say. Anyone else have something to say? Please come forward, sir. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Peter Wolfinger. I live at 2032 Palo Alto Avenue. I'm a resident for 10 years. I have watched the pond decline. I feel we should start working with nature. One of the best things that I have read upon is fresh water mussels. Now these fresh water mussels were able to clean up the Michigan Lake, and they are mussels out there that they are buying and putting in ponds. These mussel will eat the allergist. Now the other thing is, as I sit out in my line, we get a odor. The odor is because the water is not moving, even though we put the air radiance underneath on a calm day, you will just see maybe a four foot circle when the air raid is working and the rest of the lake looks like a mirror. Now I have brought up water pound, and of course I was s knocked down because of the expense. We don't want a lot of money spent. So I looked into it. And guess what? They got? Solar water panels, a water fountain. And that's what other communities are putting in. Now, if you put one water fountain on each end of the lake and one in the middle, it will constantly move the water where these aerators are not, it's only doing a little area and that's what's causing the smell because the less the lake is standing still unless we get a wind. So my suggestion is, and a solar water fountain is $3,000. The freshwater mussels are $19 a pound. Now you have to buy a lot of mussel so they can get it from, usually the allergy and the fountains will constantly move the water from one end to the other. But these air raiders are very limited the amount of water to more. Well, that's an interesting concept. Thank you. I I, uh, I suspect that the mussels might not work only because that water is moved from pond to pond and therefore you might end up moving the mussel from pond upon. And that might not be a good idea. Well, I, I'm just guessing that I don't know that. Well, they, they anchor, you've gotta pull 'em off. That's number one. Number two is I don't think we should be moving water to water in our lake, because right now we had the worst storm in history. The lake in overflow, actually, like we clear and we're thick and more full than anything else. When we move water to water, we are moving poison to poison. But we let in whatever the other lakes have, we get what we move out, we get. But if we leave the lake to go to natural habitat, which use like car mussels, water s and let it do what it has, what nature intended, it will be a beautiful lake. Again. Now I don't have no worry about the lake overflowing. I don't think anybody here had a problem with the lake overflowing. And we had the worst, the worst storm in history. If anything, it helped clean the lake. If we go forward and get the muscles and the cough and the fountains and keep everything moving, I personally believe that it will wholly improve the lake. And let's go back to what it was intended for. Be beautiful and nature. Thank you. Okay, thank you very much. I can tell you've put a lot of time researching that. Thank you. Does anyone else have a different come forward place, sir? Yes. Good morning. My name's Joe Noack, 2118 Osa. Actually I'm in district uh, two. So we are on the north side of the lake rather than district one being on the south side. But we shared the same Largo Largo and uh, we built our house in 2000, it's 24 years ago. And we watched them drain that lake and bring in tons of clay, stamp it and put a eight inch liner stitched together in that lake. And it took them about six months. And I don't know how much money in the villages. And the reason they did that is 'cause they made a commitment to maintain that, uh, lake. So I'm hoping that commitment hasn't changed. I've been here 24 years and for the first time I'm embarrassed to have people over my house. And this is the worst it's ever been. I'd like to know what has changed in the management. Did we hire someone new? Did we get the people for this? I mean, the people there were maintaining the pond. They've been grass carpet in there for years. They, the level of the lake, I disagree with the former gentleman circulating the water is the best thing that seemed to work over the last four or five years. And they put in five or six different areas in that lake. Two just circulate. So something has changed in the method style. Something's changed in the way they treated the chemicals and you probably got somebody new for less money. And I guess maybe you get what you paid for. But I would like to know, do you still have a commitment to maintain that pot? That's the main thing. And if you do, I'm okay with that. We'll try stuff again and put grass carpet in there and do the thing. If you don't, that's a different issue. And I'd like to know your stance on that because there needs to be some other, uh, way, uh, if you're not agreeing that there's a problem. So that's my question to you. I'm hoping that you agree there's a problem and that you're gonna do something. I'm not sure of that commitment. Carrie, do you, which earthway does it go that it's our cd D one commitment to maintain that lake? That that's that's correct. And I mean, I think the board has shown today just by taking action and moving forward that yes, you want it maintained better than what it has been over the last year. So there, there's your answer. And, and I absolutely agree with you that lake is disgusting and it has looked good for many years and this year it is just not nice at All. So my question is, what has changed? And are we, do we have the right people involved? And who's really responsible for The meeting of that property? Well, I, you know, I don't think that we can answer that right now, but I will tell you that by bringing it forward and presenting it to the board and the, uh, uh, property management people are realize that we are upset with this situation and that it needs to be Addressed. I'm thinking that legal action is gonna be appropriate if you don't have the commitment to do something about it. It's an issue. I, I, yes, you know, you need to go to your CDD two board and make I'm the same commitment from them. I'll be here for the next one, but yes, we need to do something about that way. Right. I'll be here for the next one. So again, yes. And have you ever been intimidated yet through all the hurricanes since 24 years here And yes, I've been intimidated with the, with the pond's rising. So I'm happy that they're able to move it up and down. And I think circulating that water is the real answer along with the grass carpet and other things and the proper chemicals. So get a hold of the last guys that you hired and find out what they were doing or fire this group and rehire them. Okay. Thank you you's All I to say Thank you. Does anyone else have 2 cents worth? No. Okay. Uh, thank you for your comments. I appreciate your taking the, hold on just A minute. Oh, I'm sorry. Sure. Come on up. Donna Alker 1318 Loma Lane. I have some photographs. I understand that I, in this board, I was here last month talking about the ongoing, um, water break, line break problems we have in the neighborhood. And just wanted to update you. Um, the problems we're still having. Um, the one picture shows some pavement that was repaired after a break. It was, again, done improperly. It wasn't backfilled properly. You can see the waviness maybe not so much in the photos. We have puddles in that area now. We never had puddles on our road before. Um, they're leaving voids under the road When they repair these water breaks. Leaving voids is the start of sinkhole. But down at off Talley Ridge Road, you'll see a big sinkhole next to a storm inlet that didn't happen just from this storm. They start small and they grow and a lot of times they start where you can't see them under the pavement. That's what's happening in our neighborhood. I have, we have a sinkhole that's been developing right in our landscape area because of these water main breaks that's been going on for over a year with this sinkhole development. And then they'll fill it in a little bit or throw some stone in. They never address the real problem, which is that there is no soil under the concrete take piece. And you'll see it in the photo. It's all been washed down with these water breaks, it washes down, probably follows the path of the storm drain gets and, and down into the lake. So you're also getting all that sediment down in the lakes could be contributing to maybe some of these pond problems we're having. Um, I, I need, we need to see action. You also see the only thing that's been done in front of our house is, um, CDD, uh, a fellow named Bill, who was very informative, put a flag in there. Nothing's been done since that concrete slab needs to be removed. It needs to be properly backfilled and compacted and then replaced. And that same that needs to happen in the pavement in Loma Lane. There's so many patches that have, and there hasn't been proper compaction. And I would also urge the board to develop some regulations and some specifications and standards for how these roads get repaired after the utility comes in or any utility and digs up the road to, to do a repair. They need to know what they're supposed to do to fix it properly. Because these are district one roads. This is in the villas. District one owns these roads. It's our expense. We shouldn't be paying the price later when these roads fail because a utility didn't do proper work and restore the road to the condition it should be in. Thank you. Bruce. Do you, and I would also like the minutes to re I don't know, I didn't get to see the minutes, but I hope the minutes reflect that when I come here, at least who I am and what my topic is. Thank you. Thank you. And um, Madam Chair, this is on old business. Um, we have all of the email correspondence that, um, Mr. Brown has sent the board regarding, um, as a response to her inquiry last month. So I'm not sure if you've seen it, but if you look at the agenda, um, there's been, um, probably four pages, five pages worth of emails and information provided to the board. But if you would like Mr. Brown to go through a a quick overview, he'd be happy to. Yeah, and Mr. Brown did respond to me. And one thing that troubles me is that, um, when they do the next repair, they're the water company's planning on boring under the pavement. So they're not gonna open up the pavement and do compaction and that's a problem. They need to do it and I'm gonna attend their meeting, um, next week. But they, that needs to be done right. The, the boring isn't gonna work. It's gonna leave those gaps under the pavement. Okay, thank you. And, and that is more of where this should be, is that the village center meeting? 'cause it is a village center utility that is taking place and they're the ones conducting the work and funding it. But if you would like Mr. Brown to have a com to go over your roads, he can certainly do that. But this is more for village center. Um, okay. Bill, are you comfortable with that? Yeah. Has there been any other utility worked on in that area, Bruce? No. No. Good morning again, Bruce Brown, assistant district manager. I'm not sure which villa, uh, the resident was referring to right off the top of my head. I didn't catch that. But as you know, there's 15 villas that need to have the service lines replaced. We've completed patio villas so far. We're proceeding with two more this fiscal year that will be done. This is a multi-year project, so it will probably take three to four years to complete all of these. Uh, they're, the resident is correct. We are unit direct. You directionally boring under the road. Uh, it worked perfectly fine in patio villas. It's a much less expensive and easier way of doing it versus cutting patches up through every road in front of every house. Um, so, um, we'll continue with that project. I think I've sent as, as Ms. Duckett stated, lots of correspondence on why we're doing this and when we're doing it and how we're doing it. Um, patio villas was the first project we've done, um, recently back in 2015 timeframe. I think some other areas were done in the village center area, uh, service line replacements as well. So those that have been replaced have performed exceptionally well. But as these old lines age out, that's why you're seeing so many breaks in the district one villa areas. Okay. I understand the, the drilling and putting in the new, the new lines, but what about her issue of the pavement sinking that's already been repaired and the holes that are developing because there was not enough backfill put into 'em. Is that something that you're also addressing? So I have talked to Jacobs about some of those issues. They use subcontractors to come back. So Jacobs does the repairs. Uh, they use subcontractors come back and do the compaction and the asphalt resurfacing. And we have had some challenges with the quality of work and we have addressed that with them. And they're looking at, uh, trying to use different contractors to do that. So, you know, you can only compact, you know, if you cut an area as of out of asphalt, you effect the repair, you can only compact it so much. And then when you put, uh, asphalt on top of it, it can happen at times where it will settle some and residents should report that to customer service utilities and they will come out and repair it again if needed. It generally should not happen, but it occasionally does happen. Okay. I know I experienced that myself on San Marino with some of the repairs there and it just kept sinking in and sinking in. I was, I I understand what she's saying about that sinking happening. So if it does happen, report it. We'll go back out and we'll make it right. Okay. Thank you. Any questions? Sir, you have to come to the podium. Bob Alker 1318 Loma Lane, Rio Grandville at the Courtyard, right? Uh, this has been happening. We were here last month. Same thing. Yeah, they came out, they, they, they fixed the leaks. Right. Billy, who has been currently working, uh, for DPM for, uh, 26 years called Austin. Right. Because I have Austin's number off and he pretty good guy. Right? But he put a flag in, in the thing that picture we gave you, right? Uh, last month it was 16 inches this morning, 24 inches. It's also six inches deeper in the thing. Right? All they do often, often told me, because I told 'em, they they fixed this leak. The leak comes up, right? Instead of, uh, the road comes up in my, uh, landscape, right? And it, it goes first, it starts between the concrete and the macada, then it comes up in my landscape. They fix it through the landscaping. Right. And, uh, this is like the fourth time that they, they fix it, right? All they do is throw rocks on it and make a big pile. Right. And now it washes away. And now that, that picture right. Often Colton, because I said you can't get packed this thing by county a shovel on. Right. Uh, April when they fixed it and you can look in the, in your, uh, whatever the records are, right? It said they, uh, bring out tax, right? Well, they brought out the compactors, didn't bring gas. You can laugh, you, you know, but it Yeah, that shook my head too. They said they'd be back. They were never back. Right. It came out, I complained about the, uh, the, now it's a pile stand about up to my knee, right? They say it eight weeks for, uh, the, whoever does the, uh, cosmetic stuff on, on landscaping come out pipe the planes. They, you know, eight weeks they come out, they pat it down, they took out some sand, they threw four, five gallons buckets of, uh, red Rock on the thing, and they called it the dead. Now that's, that's, that's what it is now. Uh, that hole with the thing now Jacob, no, you gotta get somebody else or at least have somebody go and check their work, right? Yeah. You know, it, it a disgrace and you know, I'm really here just so when the road collapses or my landscaping go, all goes into things, lawyers have some somewhere to say that you guys knew what was going on and, you know. Thank you, sir. I feel your frustration. I might say that no matter how hard you try, compaction is always going to be an issue. We were, you could do the very best you can do. And it's still, there'll be spots for compaction to the problem. Well, well, they, they have to, they, they, we complained before and they came out right. And they made, uh, uh, now this is in the McCada. They had a little hole about the size of this. Yeah. Right. And then they cut it bigger and it took five trailers of sand to compact, compact it down. And, uh, we were amazed that they start out, uh, street level. Compact it down. Yeah. And it goes down two feet, take another trail, you know. So we're, I I I was the licensed engineer for 30 years. You name and address ma'am. Um, Donna Alker, again, 1318 Loma Lane Compaction work. You can get good compaction. That's right. If you do it proper's. Correct. So I don't wanna hear that. It's hard if you don't cut the pavement over the area with the void. You can't compact it unless they have something that can compact sideways now, but I'm not aware of it. You have to compact it down. So they need to cut bigger areas and, and like Bob said, there was one patch. The guys were out there the whole day bringing load after load. I was amazed how much dirt it took to compact it properly. But they did it this last one, they didn't. And most of them, they don't do it that way. Thank you. Anyone else? Okay, moving forward, if any of you would like to leave now, it would be a good opportunity. But we'd love to have you stay for the rest of the meeting. But we are now going to have our law enforcement quarterly update. Good morning. Good morning. My Name's Sergeant Adam Dodge with the Sumter County Sheriff's Office. I'm here to provide you with your quarterly law enforcement update. Now, typically during these, uh, updates, I provide you with some statistical information about, uh, recent citations and crashes that occur here within the villages. Unfortunately, right now, I'm not able to provide you with that statistical information. The Sheriff's office, as you likely are aware, was, uh, involved in a ransomware attack, which has made, uh, compiling statistical data difficult. There hasn't been any impact on the service the Sheriff's office can provide. If a citizen calls law enforcement, we, we respond in just the same manner. However, uh, our processes of, uh, communicating through reports and, and the the way that statistical data is collected has been impacted by that ransomware attack. So I don't have any, uh, updated crash numbers or citation numbers to provide you. I wish I did. Um, I did wanna make you aware, uh, obviously we've just encountered a, a fairly significant storm here in the state of Florida. The Suffolk County Sheriff's Office was involved with several other stakeholders from within the community, uh, in, uh, activating our emergency operations center. And the EOC was involved in, uh, uh, providing, uh, shelters across the community. We had, uh, several hundred individuals from Sumter County who, uh, sought shelter and, and, uh, those, uh, establishments provided by the county. Um, and the EOC was, uh, we feel very successful in, uh, coordinating not only our, uh, free storm actions, but, uh, post storm. Uh, as soon as the winds were at a safe level for deputies to be on the road, deputies were out within the community, uh, checking roadways, uh, identifying hazards, trees or down traffic, uh, signs or poles and making sure that the, uh, the community was the safest possible as we then began that recovery phase. So, Just outta curiosity, what time was that when you felt safe enough to go on the road? Uh, that, that time, I believe that was at, uh, just before 4:00 AM on Thursday Morning. Okay. Thank You. Yep. By our policy, uh, we are restricted on operation of vehicles when there's a sustained wind, uh, at which is 45 miles an hour. Uh, we were seeing winds, uh, gusting, uh, well over 60 miles an hour. So, uh, just for the safety of the deputies. And that's not to say that if there was a significant incident or a crime in progress or, or, uh, someone's life, uh, in danger, that we would not respond. But we, we elect not to have our deputies out there in some, some of the most, uh, severe wind conditions. Okay. Thank you. Fantastic. Have any questions for me? Yeah. Uh, you have temporary controls on boards right now. Say there in the future, will there be permanent ones? I don't know that we intend currently to, uh, place, uh, permanent signage there. Uh, the temporary signage is great because it allows us flexibility to move and, and, and we can place those wherever that impact is needed. Yeah. But since you said you really don't have a statistic showing the result of these temporary signs, uh, it's kind of a hit and miss whether they are part of it or just all of it or, and whether they're the future will, you know, that's why I'm asking will it be a continual control? Absolutely. And we don't believe there's an, there's an impact in the services provided because of our, oh, I know that our, our, uh, temporary outage. Um, but we know that the, uh, speed enforcement there are more boulevard, um, is a continuing, uh, issue. And, uh, we, we foresee no reason why we would, we would stop, uh, having such a significant presence there on that roof. Thank you. Go ahead. No, There's a question from the audience. Hello, sir. Good morning. Uh, Jim Vaccaro 5 0 2 Herrera Court. Um, you, when I, when I look at those signs, and I'm glad you brought 'em up, they seem like they're at the end of Morris Boulevard and the direction that you're going, you know, where I see people bulleting out of places is right at the gate at Morris and 4 66 and on the other end where there's a two lane and it kind of, you know, grew transfers into one lane. You know, you could be going 35 miles an hour, someone come by you at 50 miles an hour. I mean, there's where you need to sign where they, they're going 50 miles an hour when they get on the road. I'm not sure when they're starting to get off the road. You got it all the way down at the end on one and when you're going north and all the way down at the end when you're going south. So I would just like, if they're movable, put 'em in a position where people would, when they get on the road, Hey, the speed limit's 30, it's not 50 when you come out of the gate. Thanks. I I like the mobile, uh, speed signs too. You never know for sure where they're going to be the next time you go out on Morris. So I, I like, I like your ability to move them around, certainly. Thank you. Anything else? No, ma'am. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. At this point in time, I would consent, I would, uh, uh, entertain a motion to approve our, um, minutes from the last meeting. And madam chair, the consent agenda would be both the minutes and, um, B, which is amendment four and renewal 14 to agreement RSP 10 P dash 15. You could certainly pull one from the consent agenda, but if, um, moving forward, since those are routine, it would include both of those. Do either one of you wanna pull anything? I I give Do the, the consent agenda is for A and B. So on your agenda, if you see it includes the minutes and then an amendment to an agreement, these are generally considered routine items and can be approved together unless somebody wants to pull one of them, No. A motion. So we just Need a motion to approve the consent agenda. Okay. I move that this board approves the consent agenda as written, including the minutes and amendment for renewal 14 to agreement RFP 10 T zero 15 investment advisory services with US Bankcorp Asset Management, Inc. Okay. Those in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you. Uh, at this point we have a new business. Yes ma'am. Mr. Armstrong will present resolution 2025 dash zero two travel expense reimbursement for your A RC committee, volunteer member. Good Morning Board, mayor Armstrong, director of Community Standards. So before you today, we do have resolution 2025 dash zero two travel expense reimbursement policy for architectural Review Committee volunteers back on July 12th, 2024. The district board at your meeting did authorize staff to create a policy for the reimbursement of travel expenses for your district one architectural review Committee members. Scope of this policy would apply only to your volunteer members and no other district, um, architectural review members. The reimbursement will be calculated by district staff in accordance with Florida statute 1 1 12 dash 0 6 1, which is 44 and a half cents on the mile. And that distance will be calculated by staff from the volunteer's home to the meeting and then back to their residence. This will be, budget impact is based on the miles from the volunteer's primary residence to the meeting location for a 52 week period. And it is staff's recommendation that the board approve resolution 2025 dash zero two for the reimbursement of travel expenses for a village community development district number one volunteers. And I'm here to answer any questions you may have. Um, just for the, uh, information for the people that are still here, uh, the Architectural Review Committee, I believe is going to be moving to Brownwood. So therefore there is quite a, a greater distance to drive to get to the meetings. And We questions. We discussed This last month and I'm, I'm in favor of proving this resolution. Aye. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you board. And the next item on new business is award of RFP 24 P dash zero thirty eight on call services for geological anomalies in Stormwater Systems by Ms. Shar. Thank you Ms. Duckett. Uh, good morning board, Melissa Shar, purchasing. Yes, I'm requesting approval of awards to four contractors. Request for proposal 24 p dash zero three eight for on-call services for geological anomalies in stormwater systems. Uh, the intent of this RFP was to establish agreements with multiple contractors to provide on demand as needed, stormwater service project, uh, projects and repairs such as complete, uh, ground depression or erosion work, including excavation, uh, filling and compacting, a depression or eroded area, and Remi remediating naturally occurring geological anomalies. On August 15th, staff issued the RFP and four responsive and responsible proposals were received and presented to the selection committee for review. The selection committee met on September 30th to score all respondents selection committee considers the respondent's experience, references, qualifications of manpower, machinery and equipment cost, and the thoroughness of their overall repo proposal. The RFP allowed for multiple contractors to be awarded agreements based on the selection committee scores and rankings, as well as the district's need of having access to multiple contractors. Staff is requesting approval of awards for RFP 24 p dash zero three eight oncall services for Geo Geological anomalies and stormwater systems to hardscapes of Central Florida a SG solutions, L-L-C-L-L-C, excuse me, Dale Beasley, construction Company, LLC and a SP Underground Solutions Incorporated for as needed services as at the unit pricing as shown in Exhibit A of their agreement, if approved, the initial term of the, of each agreement shall be effective today through September 30th, 2020, um, of 2027 with the option to renew for one two year period. And pricing will remain fixed and firm for the initial term with no increase exceeding 5%. And I'm here as well as staff if you have any questions on these agreements. I do. Yes ma'am. I'd like to know what geological anoma anomalies and stormwater systems, how you're defining that ask. Is that going to cover this lady's problem with her hole in her yard? Is that a geological anomaly or is this only on village property or what? So this would be a geological anomalies, um, could be a depression, they could be a sinkhole. Um, any type of void that we have to go and look at on district one property when it comes to whether or not it would be funded by district one, if it is, um, for example, a collapse of your stormwater management system, that would be district one's responsibility for paying for it. If it was however, an issue with the utility such as in this issue, then the utilities would have to pay for it. So it's hard to say blanket what it would be. Um, not every geological anami, some of them are in just mother nature, some of them are caused by stormwater pipe brakes. Some of them are caused by utility pipe brakes. Um, but generally speaking, it's any type of a void in the ground. And then depending on what caused it is whether or not you would be responsible under this contract to, um, repair it or whether or not it would be a utility Question. How large is this company? How large is the company? How large are there four companies? I'm not concerned about the small thing that Harry just mentioned. I'm concerned if you really got some major breaks someplace. You know, bill, I don't think she can hear you. Your mic not close enough. How's that? Try it again. How is that? Yes, better. Um, I, so as, as far as Go ahead. No, I was just making sure you heard his questions. So you're concerned that these companies would be able to manage a large project if we had one? It'd have to be pretty good size if you had a real break. Um, all of that was considered when I went through the RFP. As you're, as you're aware, the RFP is not solely based on price, it is on their qualifications, um, and the experience of the company. And I believe, um, they have also done work for us here in the villages previously. Fine question Ellen. Um, no. Okay. Then I can entertain a motion. Is there any, is there anyone in the audience that would like to put, have something to say? Okay, then I'll entertain a motion Move for I don't have all the information here. Well, I don't either. So you could a motion, you could, um, have a motion to award RFP 24 P zero three eight on-call services for geological anomalies and stormwater systems as presented. Right. Okay. Second. Second in favor? Yes. Yes. So, Ms. Uh, supervisor Cora, did you make that motion? Yes. And then Supervisor Gen S seconded it. All in favor? All in favor. Aye. Aye. Thank you. Okay, thank you. At this time we are going to be having a public hearing. Yes ma'am. We only have one today. Um, the first one on your agenda has been pulled. So Mr. Armstrong will present case number D one dash zero two dash 25 Village Community Development District number one versus Karen Lewis at 1713 Carrera Drive. After Mr. Brianis goes through a public hearing Overview. Yes. Just quickly the public hearing overview for, uh, the board as well as the audience. Uh, in public hearings, the board acts as both the judge and jury. In that capacity, the board will consider evidence, make findings of fact, and draw conclusions of law. During the hearing, the board may only receive evidence from the property owner, district staff, and those that will be substantially and directly affected by the outcome of the board's decision. The board is required to limit testimony to relevant evidence as it relates to the matter before it at the completion of the public hearing. If the board determines that staff did present substantial competent evidence to support a finding of the alleged violation, then the board must enter an order of enforcement against the property owner. If there's anyone here who will be testifying, if you please stand and raise your right hand. You swear Affirm evidence testimony. You please, Please, yes. Thank you. You can now open the public hearing. I now open the public hearing. Hello Board Bat Armstrong, director of Community Standards. So before you today, we do have case number D 1 0 2 2 5 Village Community Development District number one versus Karen Lewis of 1 7 1 3 Carrera Drive, unit five, lot seven violation of the district's rule to bring about Decompliance and specifically the rule that states shall be the responsibility of the owners to keep their lot neat and clean in the grass cutting edge at all times. The lot owner shall have the obligation to mow and maintain all areas up to the street pavement. If an owner does not adhere to this regulation, then the work may be performed on behalf of, of the owner and the cost shall be charged to the owner as found in the village. Community Development District number one, external de restriction standards Maintenance. Maintenance shall mean the exercise of reasonable care to keep buildings, landscaping, lighting lawns, and other related improvements and fixtures in good condition. Maintenance of landscaping is defined as the exercise of generally accepted guard garden management practices necessary to promote a healthy we free environment for optimum plant growth background on May 10th, 2024, this property did come before you in a public hearing in which the owners were found in violation. The property was brought into compliance on May 17th. Prior to any fines being issued. On August 21st, 2024, a complaint was received regarding overgrown grass and weeds. Since this was a reoccurring violation offense, the owner was immediately given a notice of public hearing that was sent by regular mail at certified mail on September 16th, 2024. The term reoccurring violation means a violation of a provision of a rule by an owner who has been previously notified to have violated the same provision of the rule within 12 months prior to the current violation. Notwithstanding the violation occurred at a different location. The Community Standards Department staffs receives a complaint regarding a reoccurring violation. Staff is not required to give beyond a reasonable time to correct the violation. Staff shall follow the procedures of compliance, uh, which is we would skip, um, the noticing factors with all the letters with the first second letter. This will just go straight to the public hearing letter. Staff has been unable to reach the homeowner. The voicemail box is full. There was no response to the emails that were sent and there was no emergency contacts listed on file. During a recent inspection on October 8th, it was determined that property is currently out of compliance. It is staff's recommendation to find the owner in violation of the district's decompliance rule as cited by the decompliance. Staff find the owner to be in violation of the reoccurring violation policy as listed in Appendix B. Procedures of compliance of external de restrictions and schedule for fines for the village. Community development District number one properties is currently out of compliance. So the owner has seven days to mow the grass and remove the weeds from the property. The grass is not mowed and the weeds are not removed, and the property is not brought into compliance within seven days of the order of enforcement. Authorize the district to maintain the property and impose a minimum $250 fine, or the actual cost of maintenance, whichever is more to be paid within 10 days of the invoice. Authorize the district to maintain the property twice a month in the summer and once a month in the winter as needed, and impose a $250 fine each time the district maintains the property. The owners prohibit the district from maintaining the property. Then the orders, the owners shall be fined in an additional amount of $150 and an additional $50 daily fine until the property is brought into compliance. It is the owner's response of responsibility to contact community standards department to request a decompliance officer revisit the property to confirm compliance. The owner violates this viola same provision of the rule within 12 months of today's date, October 11th, 2024. The violation shall be considered a repeat violation. Staff is not required to give the owner reasonable time to correct the violation. Staff shall present the case to the Board of supervisors even if repeat violation has been corrected prior to the public hearing. And the notice shall so. State owners who have been found to have repeat violations may be fined up to $500 and the Board of Super and the Board of supervisors may impose a $500 daily fine. Until the property is brought into compliance, the property is not brought into compliance as required herein. Staff shall record the Order of Enforcement claim of lien in the public record of Sumter County, Florida. The fines reached $1,500. The case shall be turned over to district counsel to seek all available remedies, which may include the initiating a lawsuit and seeking an injunction against the owner. The owner is responsible for reimbursing the district for all attorney's fees, costs, and expenses associated with or related to this order enforcement claim of lien. The properties brought into compliance and all fines are paid. Chairman authorized this staff to execute and record a satisfaction release claim of lien Chairman shall execute the order of enforcement. And I'm here to answer any questions that you may have. Is there someone actually living in that house? Not that we're aware of, no ma'am. Mr. Frank, in other words, no. Correct. With our previous, um, board at previous public hearing, uh, we were not able to find the homeowner and someone actually came to us afterwards and provided a, a secondary number that they had for the individual. We tried contacting that number and it says that mailbox is full. It's not accepting any more messages at this time, and the emails that we do have on file are, are going unanswered. So we're trying, Well, with This current condition of the lawn, I mean it needs mowing, but it's certainly not as bad as it was back when it was terrible. But still, they are at compliance. Correct. No response at all. Right. No response today. Well Motion. Is there anyone in the audience that represents the family? This property? As I look at the pictures, I, I, there's only one way you can go. They're definitely outta compliance. I call for a consensus or vote on that. Let's, uh, Close a public hearing and then, um, after you close the public hearing, we just need a motion to accept staff's recommendation. Okay. I'd like to close the public hearing at this point. Please. Second up, David. So now just a motion to accept staff's recommendation. Make a motion to accept. Motion to Accept staff's recommendation. Second In favor, Aye. Aye. Thank you board. Thank you. Oh, good. I think we're up to old business. Yes, ma'am. We are. The first item on old business was to provide a listing of plants to be utilized on islands. We did send information in an email on October 4th, which was also attached to this agenda for the benefit of the audience. And we're happy to answer any questions you may have on that or wait until Supervisor Porter is in attendance. Um, well this is a subject near and dear to her heart, so I'd like to wait until she gets back. Agreed. Okay. But I must tell you, I hate pot carpets. I don't know why you'd plant that stuff because they take constant, uh, pruning to keep it in shape. So here you are trying to go with, you know, you keep your costs down for maintenance and you put a pot of carpet in. If you put 'em in my island, I think they'd probably disappear overnight. Mm-hmm. Well, um, we will certainly let district property management know that is not a p of choice in district one, and if possible, find an alternative. Thank you. Thank you. Um, Anna, um, Jennifer, can we please keep this on the agenda for next month as well? The second item, um, we've pretty much already discussed that it was an update regarding the line replacement program. Those emails, again, were attached. Um, and it, we will follow up with the utility. Uh, Mr. Brown will be at village center and will be addressing it there as well. Okay. The third item was concern about lack of flowers in a median. Um, DPM did go out and verify that the amount of flowers in the median, um, were installed per the landscape as built, which is what it has previously been. Okay. I missed that discussion, but, okay. And then finally, um, this wasn't really, um, it wasn't at all a district one issue, but there were some comments at the end of the meeting regarding the responsiveness to Jacobs. Um, I believe, um, Mr. Chairman as well as Supervisor Porter had some concerns that, um, specifically interactions that they had had, and we just wanted to notify the board that Mr. Brown did reach out to them both directly to make sure, um, that all of their, um, issues or concerns that they had with Jacobs were, um, rectified. So again, not really a district one issue, but we wanted to make sure that, you know, that that had been handled well. It also sounds to me that this couple is still having an issue with Jacobs also. So some of it isn't Jacobs, but yes, M

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The agenda back at the back. Talking into the mic. I am talking into the mic now. I'm talking into the mic. Okay. Okay. I'd like to, um, do a roll call, please. To my right. Let's start at the right. Good morning. Um, Carrie Duckett, deputy District Manager. Mark Brianna is district counsel And to his right is Jennifer Farlow, the district clerk. Would like me to do that. Yes. Keep going. Um, and in the back, um, if you don't mind, staff, could you please stand up? We have Mr. Bruce Brown, who is the assistant district Manager, Matt Armstrong with Community Standards. Karen Cleary with budget. Jennifer Leon Norris Finance and Melissa Shar purchasing. And to my left, um, we have Ellen Cora. Okay. Thank you, judge. Let us now stand for a pledge of allegiance to the flag and a movement of violence for so many things that are going on. I Pledge of Allegiance, the of the America. And from in. Thank you. I had like to welcome everyone that's attending our meeting today. We'd like to see this every month, but I bet you have an issue and that's why you're here. That being said, we, uh, encourage audience comments if they are not on the agenda. And at this point in time, if, if you would like to come to the podium, you need to give your name, your address and let us know why you are here. Thank you. Good morning. Thank you for having this meeting today. My name is Bernie O'Donnell. I live at, uh, 2040 Palo Alto Avenue, uh, where the lake used to be called. I just realized a Largo Lego is now called the water basin. I'm not sure when that changed. And I'm here 'cause I'm concerned about the maintenance of this lake. I've had some very pleasant conversations with district management. Mr. Manger, I think that's Mellinger. I didn't pronounce his name correctly. And I think that, uh, the resolution of this problem should be fairly easy with a new contract for maintenance for particular, this particular lake and other lakes in this property. If you want more, I can give you more information. If you want to add that later or what, I can give you the reason for this. Would you like to hear that now? Sure. Okay. First of all, I, many, many of us who have had contacts with other people in maintenance, uh, have received different messages about maintenance of this light. Uh, from what I understand today, this is from, uh, Mr. Mallinger as well. That basically the maintenance of the lake is done now strictly with chemical processing alone to remove the algae, which is above the hydro, which is in Ottoman Lake. Um, this has been done for a number of times in the interest of removing the algae, which affects not only the aesthetic value, the property values, the people who live along this lake, but also affects potentially I'm concerned for the aquatic life as well as the marine life with whatever chemicals being used. Uh, in the past when Sam was here, the things were done a little differently and they were done very effectively. What happened during that time period was, uh, when they had this floating, I, I, uh, alj a man in a boat would come by and scoop it up with a, with a net, and it was done perhaps in one day. It seemed like it was a very inexpensive technique. The other thing that was done in the past about the hydro was carp fish were harvested and put into this lake to help the quality of the marine life in the lake. And the carp also provided the benefit of eating Nigel. Uh, the argument that was being given as why it's being done that day is some benefit from Florida guidelines. Uh, I don't doubt that they exist, but they certainly don't, aren't appropriate actually getting rid of it right. Today, because of the hurricane, it can't see it. Um, the only thing different about this lake and other lakes, it does have a liner in it. Uh, that's a long story. I'll make it very short. The liner was put in around 2001 and, uh, it was done because Salt Lake wasn't constructed properly by er, barley, which was the engineering construction company at the time, took a lot of meetings. This board of far superior, I think, to the board in and I was dealing with in 1998. They, they, they did know how to handle it. And fortunately, the villages, the villages themselves, came up and said, we'll fix this problem. Because the lake was dry three times 98, 2000 period. And they realized that the bottom of the lake didn't have the appropriate material on it. If you look up a government rule for lake slash detention ponds, the requirement was given by an engineer, an engineer of 10 to the minus seven centimeters per second, which would mean anything to anybody because it's a laboratory measurement to translate that into physical things, six inches of compacted clay. Now we have that in there. So we've had copper sulfate against some of the LJ blooms that done, the lake has been maintained well in the past. People are very happy with it. But this past year it's not been hanging around. The argument being given, uh, was that the chemicals are supposed to get rid of the hydro, which is holding up the algae. Uh, that that apparently happened. And I, I was told by assistant district manager that they are going to add to their current contract the having, allowing harvesting of this material like it was done in the past. And hopefully we will inform the board of the impact on the next maintenance contract for next year. 'cause I realize there's no money for this year in the current maintenance contract. Um, so, uh, hope, hopefully this problem will be resolved fairly easily. I don't think it's a big cost item. So the questions that should be asked about this is what is the really appropriate way to manage this lake in the future? Not now. Can't change what's happened in the past. And the question comes up, why can't car be added? Get rid of the hydrilla because they like the hydrilla, they eat it. And why can't we have harvesting when guy comes out in the lake and one day literally gets rid of this stuff? And the reason are twofold. Uh, aesthetically it affects the, the look of the lake looks rock a small lake. So it affects that property value. Everybody that's along this lake, in this lake, I didn't realize it now, called a water basin. I'm not sure when that was changed. It used to be called El Largo Lego, which is a large lake years ago. And, um, basically, um, I think that, uh, the changes will be brought. Pretty simple. Um, what I'm requesting the board to do is to look closely at the next contract for maintenance to include the harvesting by scooping it out. Literally, it took a guy one day. It can't be a big cost outta. Okay, thank you. Thank you very much. Bernie. Does, Is this floating gal? No, uh, Bernie that question. Is this floating algae? Yeah, he said yes. Okay. Yeah, that's, oh, okay. I said floating on the record. Well, Sure. The storm still There. Okay. I, I need you to say it at the podium. Okay. Um, however, I, I would like to have a show of hands of the number of people that are here that are going to bring up the same issue that Bernie brought up. Most of you are here for that issue. Okay. So, so madam Chair, if you would like, Mr. Brown could come up and, um, answer some of the questions and let the board know what our plans are moving forward. And then if the residents still have questions or comments, if you'd like to allow them their time as well. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Good Morning. Bruce Brown, assistant district manager. So district property management's obviously well aware of this basin. And, uh, the challenges with it. The gentleman who spoke is not incorrect. Carp would, uh, grass carp would do well in there. They do eat hydra, and I would recommend that the board consider that as an option if you so, which to pursue that, uh, we're limited for how much chemical treatment we can do by law. We can only treat it so often and that has been treated. Unfortunately, hydrilla treatment is not a fast process. And as part of the process, the hydra breaks down, creates algae, and then eventually sinks. So it's a slow process that's not pretty to watch. And it's not fast. Um, not, not the answer that residents want to hear, but that's just the reality of it. We do not have a contract and we do not do mechanical raking. But I would recommend, given the, uh, amount of issues we have in some of these areas with more problematic basis, that might be something that the district wishes to con con, you know, wishes to pursue. Uh, it certainly is possible, but it is not, it is, uh, not inexpensive to mechanically rake hydrilla out of basins. You're talking many, many acres worth. But it is an option. Part of the challenge with raking is when you break up hydrilla and you don't get it all out, it multiplies and it becomes a bigger problem. So it's a temporary solution to make it look better, but the long run, it still becomes a challenge. So the chemical treatments are critical to continue, and obviously that's why you have the contract in place to perform that service. What's the timeframe that we should have looked forward to? I, you just said it's a slow process. Yes. But, but this lake has been like this for almost the entire year. That's a pretty slow process. Yeah. So part of the problem that they're facing in this particular basin and others throughout the villages, this isn't unique to just this one area, is that the, uh, it's been a hot summer and there's been a lot of water and rain and Hydrilla likes that. And it multiplies and grows very quickly. So it's, uh, you know, since you're limited for how much chemical treatment you can apply, you are combating the hydrilla, but at the same time, it's growing at a furious rate. And it's overtaking the, uh, treatments. So really only option at that point is to look at mechanical removal. When the weather starts cooling, as it just has, you'll start to see that cycle reverse itself. And the hydrilla will slow down on growth and the chemicals will overcome it. So you're suggesting that perhaps we should wait and see and we might be able to control it with chemicals, You'll definitely be able to control it through chemicals as the weather cools down. This is a cyclical PRI problem. So you will see it's pulled back up again in the summer. Ideally, um, you know, there are some alternative chemicals that the contractor can use that are a little more aggressive that they probably can use in the spring to prevent it from recurring as bad as it has. Okay. So do these chemicals affect carp if you wouldn't stock the, that pond with carp? No. No. They wouldn't affect the carp. The carp is an effective option. I mean, I, I actually would recommend doing that. The grass carp, their number one source of food is hydra. Well, what about goldfish? We could go down to Walmart and buy the whole supply. I'm not familiar with what goldfish eat, but I am familiar with what grass carp eat. Okay. I, I thought at one point in time we had carp in that pond, didn't we? Yes, absolutely. So they, they were really big, but then we had a fish kill and that was a very good smelling event for most of the neighbors. But also, I am curious because I've noticed wildlife around that lake is almost nil compared to what it used to be. So are those chemicals affecting our wildlife? No, the chemicals are safe. I mean, they're, they're, you know, EPA controlled, so you can, you know, they're safe, they're safe to apply. Uh, obviously you have certain limits that you can apply them, you know, the amount, uh, and frequency. And that's designed to protect the wildlife, the fish, the vegetation, et cetera. Well, quite honestly, I feel like the neighbors are running out of patients. I don't know how to address that for sure. But I think we need to maybe be a little bit more aggressive and talk as a board about having the, at at least some of that hydra pulled out of there because it is so terrible. Um, carpet, that's just my opinion. I'm sorry for, you can speak up and say what you think, but Car cheap, Car cheap. That's what you suggest. Huh? That Was my next question, Bruce. Cost a roughly, I'm sorry, excuse me. A estimate of cost for either option? Uh, right off the top of my head, I don't, we can certainly get that to you very quickly. What else? Not that, I mean, we, we've put, we've put carp in other basins for these type of issues. It, it's not a big expense. The mechanical raking is expensive 'cause it's labor intensive. It's a slow process. There you go. I I would try to avoid that if you could. So, so car readily available to be able to stop that lake with more Yes, we have. We can get a hold of those fairly easily. That's what I would recommend. My suggestion would be to, um, kind of ask you what the most time and cost effective way to deal with this would be. I realize it's not gonna happen overnight, but regarding the cooling of the weather, we have that in our favor. The carpet chief, if this were your lake privately, what would you do? I would put CARF in it. Yeah. And anything else? No. I mean, you're already doing the chemical treatments. Yeah, those will continue year round. Mm-hmm. And maybe go to the more aggressive chemical that you mentioned. I certainly look at it, it has been used in some areas. It's very expensive compared to the other chemical that they normally apply, which is generally very effective as well. But there are, there are alternatives that we can certainly look at. So madam chair, excuse me. Um, if the board, um, so chooses, we can certainly move forward with the carp immediately, and then at your next board meeting, have an overview on the other type of chemical and whether or not it would be applicable in your, um, this specific pond as well as the cost for the mechanical raking, should you choose to move in that direction as well. Okay. So do I need a motion or a consensus? There was a third option too, wasn't it? I didn't think that. No, So so you do wanna vote? Um, so yes, we would need a motion. Uh, I just have a question. Would there be any, uh, economies of scale if you have to do this with other water basins? I think that's a great question. We'll certainly look at it. I think there are opportunities, but there's some other basins we can probably look at trying to do this and reduce the cost. Get A volume discount perhaps. But we will do that. And madam chair, we do not need a vote. The consensus of the board. Okay. I'm in favor of the carp. Definitely Go For it. We'll make it happen. Lots of them. And we'll have this on old business. Um, so both for the benefit of the board and the residents on their agenda next month, this item will be on there. Um, notifying you that the cart has in fact been put into the pond as well as the estimated cost for the mechanical, whatever it was called, I'm sorry, harvesting. And, um, whether or not we could use the other chemical and possibly have economy of scale. Okay. Is there anyone else out there that would like to address this particular issue? Okay. Nope. At the speak into the mic. I've been a resident of, uh, name and address, sir. Into the Microphone. Yep. Speak into the mic. There you Go. Okay. Don't use it. Yes, use it. Oh, okay. Well, um, I've been a resident, uh, on Name and address. You still have to say your name, name And address. Okay. William Temel, T-H-U-E-M-M-E-L 2 0 7 6 Palo Alto Avenue. Been here since oh one. We bought that lot because we love the wildlife. Uh, and, and it's, it's been really a pleasure to live along there. And we spent a lot of time on our lanai, uh, watching the activity. Uh, just as perhaps a quick aside, we got a big thrill the first year we were there when a Florida panther came by to get a duck for supper about dawn, uh, about dusk. And I, I couldn't believe it. And then we also had a whooping crane come by a year after. And then we got all these other, uh, birds and so on in there waterfall. And, uh, it is just been wonderful. And we watched the management of the lake. Uh, we've seen airboats out there breaking up a, a little, uh, scum on the edge at, uh, uh, algae. And, uh, we also, uh, saw a thing come by behind a, uh, uh, actually an airboat. And they were, uh, dragging that to break, break it up to with, uh, well, and the, the, um, hydrilla is, uh, of course on the bottom. And those grasse carp were entertaining to watch, as well as to eat all those goodies down there on the bottom. They'd come by and you'd see on the edge there a little flicker and you see the dorsal fin up there. And they got to be pretty good size. Last year. That was July, late July, uh, there was a Thursday, and, uh, someone, uh, decided to, uh, kill the grass along the edge of the lake. 'cause it, I guess looked like weeds, which didn't bother us. But, uh, they came by with the big booms out spraying there. This was on Thursday. Well, we were going to church on Sunday. I looked out and I told my wife, gee, it looks like a whole bunch of white bags are out there that got, maybe the wind drove all the way around the lake, two or three dozen of them. Then we realized these were dead carp. And, uh, on Monday there was a little, uh, truck and trailer out there, and they're picking up these carf and they were so large that they put one to a bag in strain to put it on there. So they get pretty big and they can consume a lot of hydrilla. Uh, so can, uh, large mouth bass. And, uh, well, okay, then you have the waterfalls. We haven't seen any waterfall out there for some time. We used to have ducks of all kinds around. Those ducks would, uh, come in there, uh, by the hundreds bill and, and, and, and then we'd be out there and at night when they'd take off, those whistlers would take off and the air would just bill sing With it. I'm gonna, I interrupt you because we do have a three minute time. Speaker, speaker. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't hear about that. I let, I let Bernie ramble on. Yeah, well I, but I'm gonna try and reign you in a little. Okay. Well, it's been a, um, I think it is been a disaster Technologically here. My name's John West 2036 Palo Alto Avenue. Um, I've been here 21 years and I've, uh, seen the lake, um, be really nice at times. And other times I've seen it not quite as bad as it is now. Uh, behind my house kinda looks like a swamp. Um, The carp can take care of the hydra, but you're gonna have to scoop this stuff off the top. You're gonna have to cut it and get it out of the lake because they're not going to eat that dead weeds. That's the only thing I gotta say. And I know you're gonna she that for a month or two or three or whatever it is. Um, a couple of months ago, I had a guy come out to the house from the district and he and I talked about that. And they're keep using, they keep using the chemicals. Well, the chemicals ain't working. Now they can say that, uh, whatever they want to say, they can kill 'em, but it is not getting rid of the swamp. Look, that's all I gotta say. Anyone else have something to say? Please come forward, sir. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Peter Wolfinger. I live at 2032 Palo Alto Avenue. I'm a resident for 10 years. I have watched the pond decline. I feel we should start working with nature. One of the best things that I have read upon is fresh water mussels. Now these fresh water mussels were able to clean up the Michigan Lake, and they are mussels out there that they are buying and putting in ponds. These mussel will eat the allergist. Now the other thing is, as I sit out in my line, we get a odor. The odor is because the water is not moving, even though we put the air radiance underneath on a calm day, you will just see maybe a four foot circle when the air raid is working and the rest of the lake looks like a mirror. Now I have brought up water pound, and of course I was s knocked down because of the expense. We don't want a lot of money spent. So I looked into it. And guess what? They got? Solar water panels, a water fountain. And that's what other communities are putting in. Now, if you put one water fountain on each end of the lake and one in the middle, it will constantly move the water where these aerators are not, it's only doing a little area and that's what's causing the smell because the less the lake is standing still unless we get a wind. So my suggestion is, and a solar water fountain is $3,000. The freshwater mussels are $19 a pound. Now you have to buy a lot of mussel so they can get it from, usually the allergy and the fountains will constantly move the water from one end to the other. But these air raiders are very limited the amount of water to more. Well, that's an interesting concept. Thank you. I I, uh, I suspect that the mussels might not work only because that water is moved from pond to pond and therefore you might end up moving the mussel from pond upon. And that might not be a good idea. Well, I, I'm just guessing that I don't know that. Well, they, they anchor, you've gotta pull 'em off. That's number one. Number two is I don't think we should be moving water to water in our lake, because right now we had the worst storm in history. The lake in overflow, actually, like we clear and we're thick and more full than anything else. When we move water to water, we are moving poison to poison. But we let in whatever the other lakes have, we get what we move out, we get. But if we leave the lake to go to natural habitat, which use like car mussels, water s and let it do what it has, what nature intended, it will be a beautiful lake. Again. Now I don't have no worry about the lake overflowing. I don't think anybody here had a problem with the lake overflowing. And we had the worst, the worst storm in history. If anything, it helped clean the lake. If we go forward and get the muscles and the cough and the fountains and keep everything moving, I personally believe that it will wholly improve the lake. And let's go back to what it was intended for. Be beautiful and nature. Thank you. Okay, thank you very much. I can tell you've put a lot of time researching that. Thank you. Does anyone else have a different come forward place, sir? Yes. Good morning. My name's Joe Noack, 2118 Osa. Actually I'm in district uh, two. So we are on the north side of the lake rather than district one being on the south side. But we shared the same Largo Largo and uh, we built our house in 2000, it's 24 years ago. And we watched them drain that lake and bring in tons of clay, stamp it and put a eight inch liner stitched together in that lake. And it took them about six months. And I don't know how much money in the villages. And the reason they did that is 'cause they made a commitment to maintain that, uh, lake. So I'm hoping that commitment hasn't changed. I've been here 24 years and for the first time I'm embarrassed to have people over my house. And this is the worst it's ever been. I'd like to know what has changed in the management. Did we hire someone new? Did we get the people for this? I mean, the people there were maintaining the pond. They've been grass carpet in there for years. They, the level of the lake, I disagree with the former gentleman circulating the water is the best thing that seemed to work over the last four or five years. And they put in five or six different areas in that lake. Two just circulate. So something has changed in the method style. Something's changed in the way they treated the chemicals and you probably got somebody new for less money. And I guess maybe you get what you paid for. But I would like to know, do you still have a commitment to maintain that pot? That's the main thing. And if you do, I'm okay with that. We'll try stuff again and put grass carpet in there and do the thing. If you don't, that's a different issue. And I'd like to know your stance on that because there needs to be some other, uh, way, uh, if you're not agreeing that there's a problem. So that's my question to you. I'm hoping that you agree there's a problem and that you're gonna do

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