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Present: DUNEDIN, FLORIDA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING THURSDAY, JANUARY 22, 2026 4:30 P.M. CRA Members: Chair Maureen "Moe" Freaney, Members Tom Dugard, Jeff Gow, and Steven Sandbergen Absent: Member Robert Walker Also Present: City Manager Jennifer Bramley, Deputy City Manager Jorge Quintas, City Attorney Jennifer Cowan, City Clerk Michelle Wells, CRA/Economic Development Director Robert lronsmith, Economic Development Manager Matt Jackson, and Economic Development Specialist Carolyn Homer CRAAC Member: Alan McHale, CRA Advisory Committee Chair CALL TO ORDER Chair Freaney called the January 22, 2026, Community Redevelopment Agency Meeting to order at 4:30 p.m. MOTION TO EXCUSE ABSENCE Mayor Freaney requested a motion to excuse the absence of Member Walker. MOTION: Motion was made by Member Sandbergen and seconded by Member Gow to excuse the absence of Member Walker. VOTE: Motion carried 4-0. CITIZEN INPUT Chair Freaney advised now was the time for anyone in the audience who wished to speak on a topic that is not already on the agenda. Seeing and hearing no one wishing to speak, Chair Freaney moved to the next agenda item. 1. BUSINESS 1.a. The Draft Minutes from the November 20, 2025, Community Redevelopment Agency Chair Freaney inquired if there were any corrections; hearing none, she asked for a motion. MOTION: Motion was made by Member Dugard and seconded by Member Gow to approve the November 20, 2025, Community Redevelopment Agency minutes. VOTE: Motion carried 4-0. 1.b. Community Redevelopment Agency Advisory Committee Chair Report CRA Advisory Committee Chair Alan McHale presented the report: The CRA Advisory Committee has had two meetings since the last CRA meeting in November and January. At both meetings, there were multiple ongoing projects in the downtown area. For the most part , the Committee is excited at the progress being made in the downtown area with no immediate concerns. This includes the Main Street Exchange Project that includes a parking garage, which will solve some of the parking issues and create more jobs 26-1

Regular Meeting Minutes January 22, 2026 Community Redevelopment Agency in the downtown area. There is also mention of a new Chase Bank at the Bass/Main Street intersection . An age-old problem continues to come up at their meetings: the growth of e-bike usage in and around the downtown area. Listening to the Sheriff on Friday at the Dunedin Council of Organizations (DCO) meeting, it is clear that many other communities share their concerns . It is his hope that they have better and clearer legislation in the next 12 months that will help him and everyone get a handle on the issue. At their last meeting, they were introduced to the new owners of the Tiki Rides business, who gave assurances they will help it grow and keep it going downtown. Both meetings were over rather quickly with no dissention and a lot of excitement over the projects. There is nothing negative to report on from the Committee's perspective. 1.c. Community Redevelopment Agency Director's Report Economic & Housing Development/CRA Director lronsmith referred to the map, Attachment A to the Staff Memo, to provide an update as to the status of various projects downtown : Skinner Boulevard - The road is open . The roundabout is working well with traffic speeds slowing. Dunedin was the first in the State to get a golf cart crossing on one of the roundabouts ; there does have to be some signage before making that active. He recognized Jerry Dabkowski as being instrumental in obtaining that crossing. In addition, easements are attempting to be obtained from property owners to continue the undergrounding of utilities. There is great progress with a couple left. Duke is on site and beginning to put in the conduit, and that is anticipated to be complete by April/May ; City staff are working to push Duke for completion ahead of schedule . The other item is the landscaping , which is anticipated to begin this summer and be completed by the end of the year . There will be a maintenance agreement with DOT that will be brought to the CRA for agreement. DOT will install the landscaping , and the City will oversee the maintenance after a period that it is guaranteed the landscaping will survive . Staff are looking to go forward with two decorative bus shelters , with PST A contributing half with the City . Skinner now has slower traffic and is more pedestrian-friendly; he sees people now walking on the 10-foot sidewalks. In addition are the mast arm traffic signals coming in off Bass, with no more overhead wires. Mid-Term Review - Economic Development Specialist Homer went before the Pinellas County Board of Commissioners to obtain approval. In 2018, the CRA was going to sunset; the City asked for a 15-year extension that was approved; however, in that ordinance is a mid-term step . The County will look at the performance review . In a proactive step , the CRA took on some debt for a property purchase, and when that is done the County cannot really reduce or shorten the City's Tax Increment Financing (TIF) schedule to 2033; therefore, that was approved. Downtown Parking Garage - The garage is planned to move forward. It will require an amendment to the existing lnterlocal Agreement with the County. There has been good dialogue with staff, and it will start to move up the channels in the County. The CRA needs to take on more debt, and City staff is trying to get the County to understand the City is not looking for them to extend the CRA sunset time or requesting any more money or to make any guarantee; it is to only to basically give a co-signature for the CRA to take on more debt to build the parking garage. 26-2

Regular Meeting Minutes January 22, 2026 Community Redevelopment Agency Old City Hall - Staff will be coming to the City Commission tonight to consider the restrooms and the naming of the park. Main Street Exchange - The project is moving forward, having received recommendation for approval at the Local Planning Agency (LPA) . It will be coming before the City Commission in February. The project has been well-received by the Chamber of Commerce and the Merchants . It is probably a $40 Million investment by the developer to have an 89-room boutique hotel , a food hall, and a culinary-type kiosk plus retail. United Methodist Church on Main Street - The Church is still looking at an out parcel; however, there is nothing new to report . Trailside At Main - For the project behind Casa Tina's, staff is working with Tina and her consultants relative to that development. She is looking at a restaurant and other aspects. Mr. lronsmith commented downtown is getting a lot of attention. Much of that is attributed to the City continuing to invest, and it has the ear of developers and private investors. Everyone is looking forward to the downtown continuing to be unique. Board Questions Mr. Sandbergen clarified with Mr. lronsmith that the Market was open and moved to the Museum area due to the MLK Day activities in the park. Mr. Sandbergen inquired about the property across from the proposed Chase Bank , and Mr. lronsmith advised there has not been any word on that property. That has been dormant for a long time; the owner wants to lease, and developers do not want to build on a property they cannot own. Mr. Sand bergen inquired about a vision on the north side of Skinner. Mr. lronsmith advised he would like to see mixed-use and a scale that fits in with the small- town nature. He would like to see some of the redevelopment going on there. He noted it is a different environment from Main Street ; it is not quite the urban context. In his opinion it should not be more than three stories . When Mr. Sandbergen inquired about the Gateway, Mr . lronsmith explained that staff continues to stay in contact with the owner, Mr. Kokolakis , who he thinks is sort of waiting to see what happens with Main Street Exchange; however, he is very committed to the project and wants to do something unique. Mr. Kokolakis is one of the largest investors in the downtown area. Commissioner Gow inquired about the easements on Skinner, and Mr. lronsmith explained the easements are temporary to get the overhead service to underground; it is from Skinner to their meter with everything being paid for , and everything will be restored. He acknowledged there is concern that some of those property owners might decline and that staff is working on that ; most have been good , but there could be a property owner who does not come on board, so staff would have to work with Duke Energy as to the impact. The owners cannot be forced . If an owner refuses , it could mean two wooden poles stay in front of their property with everything else underground and decorative lighting. Commissioner Gow asked if there is a concern with Highland north coming into MLK as the real connector to north Dunedin; however, the golf cart crossing is at Douglas , where there is the activity in the downtown, and the crossing is a little east of the activity area. He asked if there will be any attempt to get a crossing at Highland . 26-3

Regular Meeting Minutes January 22, 2026 Community Redevelopment Agency Mr. lronsmith explained DOT dictates this , and Douglas and Bass are the best the City could get; they were not able to get one on Highland. He noted if the golf cart has a license plate (i.e. Low Speed Vehicles), those can go anywhere on the 25 mph on Highland . Commissioner Gow asked what the bus shelters on Skinner will look like. Mr. lronsmith advised those would be very similar to the ones on Main Street , featuring black and decorative designs. He acknowledged the design was selected by City staff, so the shelters will fit in the downtown . Commissioner Dugard clarified with Mr. lronsmith that the First United Methodist Church is in discussion to be sold at this time , and they are working with an architect to determine their options. Commissioner Dugard inquired about the Sheriffs Office recent presence on Skinner Boulevard. Mr . lronsmith explained some cars are going too fast, not recognizing the lower speed limit ; the thought is the Sheriff is helping the City by advising drivers they need to understand this is a much slower speed than before . He acknowledged there have been some signs knocked over as people begin to understand this is not a high-speed commuter to Alternate 19. He noted that the round-about in Clearwater has over 40,000 trips per day; on Skinner, there are about 11,800 to 12,000 and there has been only one accident. Commissioner Dugard stated he has heard there is an attitude at DOT that the City will not be doing any roundabouts elsewhere in the City. Mr. lronsmith advised he had not heard that and thought it would be the opposite , noting that Forward Pinellas favors the round-abouts and he thought DOT does as well in that they stop idling and traffic buildup and slows speeds. Commissioner Dugard asked if there were any plans for traffic monitoring or checking speeds without officers there, and Mr . lronsmith noted there were some signs and eventually he thought they would ; however, right now, he thinks they think the manpower is needed. Mayor Freaney commented that DOT is taking more of a position away from Complete Streets now; that was a comment a couple of months ago in terms of not coming to DOT about anything that is going to reduce lanes. Mayor Freaney questioned why anyone would not want to go underground with just a temporary easement. Mr. lronsmith thought there might have been some past upset about the road closure , debris and loss of business, not being so comfortable with the City types of things , etc .; it is difficult to understand as the feeling is that the City improved everyone 's property along Skinner. Mayor Freaney asked about the size of the First United Methodist Church site, and Mr. lronsmith will need to get that information; it is challenging without a lot of depth to the site. Mayor Freaney inquired about the Rock House. Mr. lronsmith advised they met a couple of times and were originally approved for the site design and then they decided to change that, including their parking requirement in the City's right-of-way, which cannot be done; it has to be on their property . Mayor Freaney asked about the Norton 's Sports Bar expansion . Mr . lronsmith explained the brewery has been on hold ; he will have to find out. He thought that it is not an expansion , but it has not opened. Mr. McHale explained the subject came up at the CRA Advisory Committee; however , the answers were hearsay and not anything they could say was the delay for certain . Mayor Freaney clarified with Mr. lronsmith the lnterlocal Agreement is strictly because of borrowing more money . He explained originally it was for about $6 .84 Million, and $1.114 26-4

Regular Meeting Minutes January 22, 2026 Community Redevelopment Agency Million was used to purchase the Scotland/Douglas property, which initially was going to be some Skinner funds as part of that financing; however, ARPA funds were used . There is about $2.48 Million available left on the lnterlocal; to get to the garage, that needs to be increased by approximately $6.8 Million, and the County approval is required because of their participation in the TIF . He emphasized the City was not asking for more money or additional time or any guarantee, only to allow the CRA to take on a little more debt and show how it is secured on the City's side. Mayor Freaney asked about the property that was Mike's Automotive. Mr. lronsmith advised he spoke with Community Development Director Kinney about that property ; nothing has been happening with that property, and that is a concern as it is a detriment coming into the downtown. He is aware two people tried to acquire the property and could not. Commissioner Gow asked if there are any City ordinances that could incentivize the owner to do something on the property or sell it. Mr. lronsmith advised he would talk with Mr. Kinney on that question. Mayor Freaney recalled there was something in the Code stating that a project could not just sit there unfinished and just keep renewing the permit that occurred in relation to the property that was a house on Alternate 19 that was half completed . Florida Redevelopment Association - Redevelopment Professional Mr . lronsmith noted: This is a good example of City Manager Bramley's initiative to invest in City staff. Carolyn Homer came to the City about a year and half ago, and there was the desire to bring her up to speed with issues related to the Community Redevelopment Agency. She took some classes in Orlando and in West Palm Beach. She now has a Certificate with the designation as a Florida Redevelopment Association - Redevelopment Professional. This means when she is reviewing annual reports, accounting, and capital budgets, it is easier for her. Economic Development Manager Matt Jackson will also be taking those classes . Ms. Homer, along with others, will be recognized at the Florida Redevelopment Association Conference in October and they would like for any of the Commission to attend. It will be at the 2026 Florida Redevelopment Association Annual Conference at the Sunseeker Resort, Charlotte Harbor, FL. The ceremony will be held in the evening of Thursday, October 22, 2026. More details will follow as they get closer to the Annual Conference. Summary Comments Mr. lronsmith commented regarding the success of the downtown due to the investment the City has made and everyone working together and incremental improvements, as opposed to what many cities do with major capital projects and public works and then they are done. In Dunedin, it could be an artistic bus shelter, widening a sidewalk, and so forth; there are many different things the City has been committed to and the reason it has been recognized as one of the top downtowns in the state of Florida. There is much to be proud of. He looks to the upcoming continuation of those incremental projects and the Old City Hall pocket park project; streetscaping on Main Street from the Pinellas Trail to Broadway in front of Cafe Alfresco; and the parking garage and Skinner Boulevard. It is great to see all these things happening as the Director and to have the latitude to move forward with all the projects. He recognized all the support from City Administration, City Departments, and the City Commission. 26-5

Regular Meeting Minutes January 22, 2026 Board Comments Community Redevelopment Agency The Mayor and Commissioners expressed their appreciation for the success of the downtown and related some of their experiences and comments heard from people outside the City who loved coming to Dunedin , which has some of their favorite places. ADJOURN The meeting adjourned at 5:14 p.m . NOTE: The meeting was completely recorded and the recording is in the official file. ~-- .. .,,~, 7Maureen "Moe" Freaney CRA Chair 26-6

1. BUSINESS 1.a The Draft Minutes from the November 20, 2025 Community Redevelopment Agency 1.b Community Redevelopment Agency Advisory Committee Chair Report 1.c Community Redevelopment Agency Director's Report NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY CITY HALL, 737 LOUDEN AVE. JANUARY 22, 2026 4:30 PM AGENDA AGENDA CALL TO ORDER CITIZEN INPUT Staff recommends approval of the Draft Minutes from the November 20, 2025 Community Redevelopment Agency. EXHIBIT: A. CRA Minutes_November 20, 2025.pdf Staff recommends receiving and discussing the Community Redevelopment Agency Advisory Committee Chair Report. EXHIBIT: A. CRA Advisory Committee Minutes November 2025.pdf Staff recommends receiving the Community Redevelopment Agency Director's Report. EXHIBIT: A. CRA Map_2025_8.5x11.pdf EXHIBIT: B. Certificate_FL Redevelopment Association_Redevelopment Professional_Carolyn Homer.pdf EXHIBIT: C. Certificate_FL Redevelopment Association_Letter_Carolyn Homer.pdf ADJOURN Note: Please put cell phones and pagers on silent or vibrate during the meeting. This meeting is televised; therefore, you may appear on TV at any time. Public Appearance: CITIZEN INPUT is for comments from members of the audience regarding items not listed on the agenda for this meeting (please give name and address and limit all comments to a maximum of three minutes). AS FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA individual speakers are limited to a maximum of three 1

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>> Mayor Freaney: WILL IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION TO EXCUSE VICE MAYOR'S ABSENCE. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Freaney: ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> Mayor Freaney: MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. CITIZEN INPUT. DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE CITIZEN INPUT. I WAS GOING TO SAY SEEING NO ONE PERIOD, JUST ABOUT. SO NEXT ONE IS DRAFT MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 20, 2025 COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES, FIRST OF ALL, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES? NO CHANGES, HEARING NONE. IF I COULD HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> Mayor Freaney: OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADVISORY COMMITTEE CHAIR REPORT. THIS WILL BE GIVEN BY THE CHAIR, ALAN McHALE. IT'S YOUR MIC. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. I HOPE YOU'RE ALL ESCAPING THE SICKNESSES THAT ARE GOING AROUND TODAY. THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAVE HAD TWO MEETINGS, I THINK, SINCE OUR LAST GET TOGETHER HERE, THAT WAS IN NOVEMBER AND IN JANUARY. AND ON BOTH OCCASIONS WE HAD OUR MULTIPLE PROJECTS GOING ON IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. FOR THE MOST PART, IT IS EXTREMELY EXCITED THAT THE PROGRESS IS BEING MADE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WITH NO MAJOR CONCERNS. A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AROUND THE MAIN STREET EXCHANGE PROJECT, INCLUDING THE NEW PARKING GARAGE, WHICH WILL SOLVE SOME PARKING ISSUES, BUT ALSO CREATE MORE JOBS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AROUND THAT. THERE WAS ALSO MENTION OF A NEW BANK COMING ON THE CROSSROADS OF BASS AND MAIN STREET, WHICH WILL ADD MORE AMENITIES TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. AN AGE OLD PROBLEM KEEPS COMING UP AT EACH OF OUR MEETINGS. LIKE MANY OTHER PEOPLE, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT E BIKE USAGE IN AND AROUND THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THE DCO MEETING IS CLEAR, THAT MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE SHARING OUR CONCERN. SO HOPEFULLY THIS DESIRE TO HAVE BETTER AND MORE CLEAR LEGISLATION IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS WILL HELP HIM AND EVERYONE ELSE GET A HANDLE ON THE ISSUE. AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE WERE INTRODUCED TO THE NEW OWNERS OF THE TIKI RIDES BUSINESS, AND THEY GAVE US ASSURANCES THAT THE BUSINESS THAT THEY HAD TAKEN OVER WILL BE NURTURED AND THEY'LL HELP IT GROW, AND THEY'RE KEEN TO KEEP IT GOING IN THE DOWNTOWN, THAT'S GOOD AS WELL. BOTH MEETINGS WERE OVER RELATIVELY QUICKLY, WITH NO DISENGS AND A LOT OF EXCITEMENT ON THE PROJECT. WITHOUT GOING INTO ALL THE PROJECT DETAILS, THERE'S NOTHING NEGATIVE TO REPORT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AS A COMMITTEE. >> Mayor Freaney: COOL. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CHAIR STARTING OVER HERE? COMMISSIONER GOW? >> NO, I'M GOOD. >> Mayor Freaney: COMMISSIONER DUGARD? >> NO. >> Mayor Freaney: COMMISSION CANNER SANDBERGEN? >> NOTHING, MAYOR. >> Mayor Freaney: I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING EITHER. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND GOOD LUCK TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US. >> Mayor Freaney: GOOD LUCK OVER AT SCOTTISH AMERICAN. >> IT'S ROBERT BONES WEEK. REMEMBER YOUR BONES POETRY. YOU ALL KNOW BONES POETRY, DON'T YOU? >> Mayor Freaney: YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. >> YOU ACTUALLY DO, YOU DON'T EALIZE YOU DO, BUT YOU DO. YOU ALL SING AULD LANGE SIGN, IT WAS WRITTEN BY ROBERT BONES. YOU CAN SHARE WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD ON SUNDAY. >> Mayor Freaney: THANK YOU. WE WILL GO NOW TO -- LET'S SEE, COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY DIRECTOR'S REPORT. BOB, YOU'RE ON. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. I'M HERE WITH STAFF, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST, MATT JACKSON. TREVOR HAD A CONFLICT SO HE'S NOT HERE WITH US TODAY. I WANTED TO -- WE'RE TRYING TO GET A MAP UP HERE. CAN WE GET A LITTLE HELP? I NEED A LITTLE HELP WITH A MAP. >> IT'S BEFORE US. >> UP HERE ON THE SCREEN. IT MAKES IT A LITTLE HARDER FOR ME TO -- ANYWAY, WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY IS AN UPDATE ON THE VARIOUS PROJECTS IN CAPITAL, BOTH PRIVATE THAT ARE HAPPENING DOWNTOWN. WHAT I'M AWARE OF IS WE WANTED TO RUN THROUGH IT. WAYNE PREPARED THIS MAP. WHICH GIVES YOU A GOOD IDEA. LET'S START WITH SKINNER BOULEVARD, THE ROAD IS OPEN. THE ROUND ABOUTS ARE WORKING WELL, TRAFFIC SPEEDS ARE SLOWED DOWN, WHICH HAS BEEN FANTASTIC. WE JUST BECAME -- I KNOW WE SENT AN EMAIL, BECAME THE FIRST ONE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO GET A GOLF CART CROSSING IN THE ROUND ABOUTS, IT'S THE VERY FIRST ONE IN THE STATE. WE NEED TO GET SOME SIGNAGE IN PLAY TO MAKE THAT ACTIVE. THANKFUL TO HAVE THAT. OTHER ITEMS WITH THAT, WE'RE TRYING TO GET EASEMENTS FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO GO UNDER GROUNDING WITH THE UTILITIES. WE'RE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS, WE HAVE A WAY TO GO. WE HOPE TO SEE DUKE FINISH UP BY APRIL/MAY. I KNOW JORGE HAS BEEN PUSHING A LOT WITH THEM. WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TO MOVE THEIR SCHEDULE AHEAD. THE OTHER ITEM IS THE LANDSCAPING. LANDSCAPING WOULD PROBABLY START IN THE SUMMER, AND BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WE WILL HAVE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH DOT THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING FORTH TO YOU FOR AGREEMENT. IF YOU REMEMBER, THEY'LL GO AHEAD AND INSTALL IT, BUT WE'LL HAVE THE MAINTENANCE AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME, IN WHICH IT'S GUARANTEED THAT ALL THE LANDSCAPING SURVIVED. WE'RE LOOKING TO GO FORWARD WITH TWO DECORATIVE BUS SHELTERED, PSTA IS LOOKING TO CONTRIBUTE WITH US, THEY'RE GOING TO GO HALF, WE'RE GOING TO GO HALF. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT PROJECT. THIS IS GOING TO BE MORE OF EYE DECORATIVE NATURE, WHICH IS WHAT WE WANTED INSTEAD OF YOUR TYPICAL PSTA BUS SHELTER. SKINNER IS REALLY COMING TOGETHER. IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS WAS FOUR LANES, HIGH SPEED TRAFFIC THAT BIFURCATED THE DOWNTOWN. NOW WE'RE SLOWING IT DOWN, MAKING IT MORE PEDESTRIANS FRIENDLY. I SEE PEOPLE WALKING THOSE 10 FOOT SIDEWALKS. AND WE DID THOSE BEAUTIFUL MAST ARM TRAFFIC SIGNALS AS YOU'RE COMING IN OFF OF BASS. WE GOT RID OF ALL THOSE OVERHEAD WIRES. THE DIFFERENCE HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIAL. WE'RE HAPPY WITH THAT. ANOTHER ITEM WHICH IS A BIG ONE FOR US, IS CALLED A MIDTERM REVIEW. THIS IS PINELLAS COUNTY. CAROLINE WENT BEFORE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO GET APPROVAL. WHAT THIS WAS IN 2018, THE DUNEDIN CRA WAS GOING TO SUNSET. WE ASKED FOR A 15 YEAR EXTENSION, AND WE GOT THAT EXTENSION, BUT IN THAT ORDINANCE IS A MIDTERM STEP, AND THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT OUR PERFORMANCE REVIEW. WE WERE SMART, AHEAD OF THE GAME TO TAKE ON SOME DEBT FOR THAT PROPERTY PURCHASE. WHEN YOU TAKE ON DEBT, THE COUNTY CAN'T REDUCE OR SHORTEN OUR TIFF SCHEDULE TO 2033. THAT GOT APPROVED, VERY HAPPY TO GET THAT IN PLAY. THE DOWNTOWN PARKING GARAGE, WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT THAT WILL REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT OF THE CURRENT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH THE COUNTY. AND WE'VE HAD GOOD DIALOGUE WITH STAFF, THIS WILL START TO MOVE UP THE CHANNELS IN THE COUNTY. JENNIFER IS WITH US, WE'LL BE MAKING A VISIT THERE TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SOON. WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE ON MORE DEBT. WHAT'S INTERESTING AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE COUNTY TO UNDERSTAND, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR YOU TO EXTEND THE CRA SUNSET TIME. NOT LOOKING TO DO THAT. WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU FOR ANY MORE MONEY. WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO GUARANTEE ANYTHING. ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A CO SIGNATURE. LET US TAKE ON MORE DEBT IN ORDER TO DO THE PARKING GARAGE. STAY TUNED FOR THAT ONE. OLD CITY HALL, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TONIGHT. WE'RE COMING BEFORE YOU FOR TWO THINGS. ONE IS FOR THE BATHROOM ASPECT THERE. AND THE OTHER IS FOR THE NAMING OF THE PARK. SO I'LL BE SEEING YOU HERE A LITTLE LATER TONIGHT ON THAT ONE. THE MAIN STREET EXCHANGE, AS ALAN SAID, IS MOVING FORWARD. IT WILL BE BECOMING BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY. IT'S A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN RECEIVED WELL BY THE CHAMBER AND THE MERCHANTS. IT'S AN EXCITING PROJECT, IT'S PROBABLY A $40 MILLION INVESTMENT TO HAVE 89 ROOM BOUTIQUE HOTEL. THEY HAVE A FOOD HALL AND CULINARY TYPE KIOSKS IN THAT ENVIRONMENT PLUS RETAIL. STAY TUNED ON THAT ONE. . THE FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, THEY'RE STILL LOOKING AT AN OUT PARCEL THERE, BUT NOTHING NEW TO REPORT. THE CHURCH HAS VARIOUS LAYERS THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH. THEY'RE STILL LOOKING TO GET IN UNISON WITH, EVERYTHING THEY NEED. BUT THEY'RE STILL LOOKING AT THAT. THE OTHER PROJECT RIGHT THERE IS THE MAIN STREET EXCHANGE, THE ONE BEHIND CASA TINA. WE'RE WORKING WITH TINA AND HER CONSULTANTS RELATIVE TO THAT DEVELOPMENT. SHE'S LOOKING AT A RESTAURANT AND OTHER ASPECTS TO IT. SO DOWNTOWN IS CERTAINLY GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION. AND A LOT OF IT IS BECAUSE THE CITY IS CONTINUING TO INVEST, AND IT'S GOT THE EAR OF THE DEVELOPERS EVEN PRIVATE INVESTORS, SO EVERYBODY'S REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO MAKING DOWNTOWN CONTINUE TO BE UNIQUE. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY REPORT ON THE DIRECTORS. I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GET YOU ALL UP TO SPEED AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, OR SOMETHING I DIDN'T COVER WITH THIS MAP. BUT THIS MAP TELLS A PRETTY GOOD STORY IN A SHORT CONCENTRATED AREA, HOW MUCH IS GOING ON >> Mayor Freaney: QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN? >> THANK YOU, BOB. WE HAD A REALLY GOOD CELEBRATION FOR MLK DAY, ANY REASON WHY THE MARKET WASN'T OPEN? >> THE MARKET WAS OPEN, IT WAS -- >> IT WASN'T IN THE PARK, WAS IT -- >> WE DIDN'T WANT TO CONFLICT WITH THE MLK ASPECT, SO WE MOVED IT OVER TO THE MUSEUM, AND THEY DID PRETTY WELL WITH THE MUSEUM. >> RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT NEW SOON TO BE CONSTRUCTED CHASE BANK, I THINK IT'S -- IT USED TO BE AN AUTO REPAIR, IT'S BEEN EMPTY FOR A LONG TIME. ANY WORD OF SOMETHING GOING ON THERE? >> NO, WE TRIED TO REACH OUT, TRIED TO PUSH. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY WORD ON THAT, AS YOU SAID, IT'S BEEN DORMANT FOR A LONG TIME. THEY DON'T WANT TO SELL, THEY WANT TO LEASE. NO ONE'S INTERESTED IN PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO SOMETHINGNY DON'T OWN. WE CONTINUE TO TRY TO REACH OUT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY REPORT ON IT. >> THE LAST ONE. WE WORKED ON THAT SKINNER -- THAT WAS A LONG TIME IN THE MAKING. IF YOU TAKE THAT NORTH SIDE OF SKINNER FROM THE -- I GUESS FROM THE GAS STATION WORKING BACK TOWARD CHASE, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR VISION OF WHAT TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SKIN SUMMER. >> WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS MIXED USE. I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING OF A SCALE THAT FITS IN WITH THE SMALL TOWN NATURE. I'D LIKE TO SEE A REDEVELOPMENT THAT'S OCCURRING THERE. BOONDOCKS, SOME OF THOSE TYPE OF BUSINESSES ARE FINE. I'M NOT LOOKING -- IT'S A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT THAN THE MAIN STREET, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT REALLY QUITE THAT URBAN CONTEXT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. IN THIS AREA, REDEVELOPMENT, CERTAINLY I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING MORE THAN THREE STORIES IN MY OPINION, IN THAT AREA. I'D LIKE TO SEE A REDEVELOPMENT, OF COURSE. WE HAVE THE NEW APOTH CARRIE, WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE A BAKERY NEXT TO IT, JUST TO THE WEST. I THINK THAT KIND OF ADAPTIVE REUSE IS PART OF THE FIT. IT'S PART OF THAT SMALL TOWN QUAINT FEEL WE WANT TO SEE. >> WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH -- YOU CAN WALK BROADWAY, THE TRAIL, DOUGLAS, HIGHLAND. WE HAVE THE THOROUGHFARES AND THE CONNECTERS FROM MAIN STREET TO SKINNER. THE LONG TERM VISION WOULD BE TO COMPETE WITH MAIN STREET. YOU GET SOME OF THE FOOT TRAFFIC AND THE BUSINESSES UP THERE, SO I -- >> I AGREE. I MEAN, WE -- WE CREATED A BIT OF ON STREET PARKING, WHICH IS I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE ENVISIONED, CREATED ON STREET TO GET THE REDEVELOPMENT GOING AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I THINK MIXED USE, YOU COULD HAVE RESIDENTIAL, YOU COULD HAVE A CAFE. A BAKERY, APOTHECARY. NOW WE CAN GET ACROSS SKINNER. BEFORE IT WAS A BARRIER. NOW WITH SLOWER SPEEDS, THE CROSSWALKS, IT'S EASIER TO GET ACROSS. >> ANY UPDATE ON GATEWAY? >> YEAH, WE STAY IN CONTACT WITH THE OWNER THERE, MR. KOKOLAKIS. I WAS TALKING TO HIM ABOUT THE WEST END. HE REOPENED THAT. I THINK IN SOME WAYS, HE'S PUTTING A LITTLE BIT OF A LOOK AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO MAIN STREET EXCHANGE, I'M READING THE TEA LEAVES A LITTLE BIT. >> INTERESTING. >> I THINK HE'S REALLY COMMITTED TO THE PROJECT. HE WANTS TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE. HE HAS A LOT OF INVESTMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN. ONE OF OUR LARGEST INVEST IRS IN OUR DOWNTOWN. WE BROUGHT A COUPLE THINGS TO HIM, HE WASN'T READY AT THAT TIME. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, AT ONE POINT IN TIME HE WAS LOOKING AT A HOTEL OUT THERE. I THINK HE WAS WAITING TO SEE HOW WELL THAT FITS. >> THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR, THANK YOU. >> Mayor Freaney: COMMISSIONER GOW? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. BOB, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SKINNER, YOU MENTIONED THE UNDERGROUNDING YOU WERE WORKING ON, SOME EASEMENTS. >> YEAH. >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY EASEMENTS, ARE WE GETTING ACCESS FROM THE OWNERS OF THAT, THE PROPERTY OWNERS? >> YES, THESE ARE TEMPORAY, ALL THIS IS IS TO GET YOUR OVERHEAD SERVICE UNDERGROUND AS THE SERVICE GOES UNDERGROUND ON SKINNER. EVERYTHING IS PAID FOR, TAKEN CARE OF, AND IT'S TEMPORARY, AND EVERYTHING GETS RESTORED. >> OKAY. SO THERE'S -- IS THERE ANY CONCERN ANY OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS MIGHT GO, YEAH, NO. >> YEAH. THERE IS, AND WE'RE WORKING ON IT. YEAH. MOST EVERYBODY HAS BEEN PRETTY GOOD. BUT WE COULD HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER THAT DOESN'T COME ON BOARD WITH US. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO DO IS WORK WITH DUKE AND SAY, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT US. I CAN'T FORCE THEM TO DO IT. BUT YES, THAT IS CERTAINLY EYE CONCERN. >> FOR THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT DO HOLD OUT, COULD THAT PUT THE KABASH ON THE UNDERGROUNDING THERE? >> WE DON'T HAVE MUCH THAT HAVE. WE HAVE ONE WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH. IT COULD BE THAT THE WOODEN POLES STAY UP IN FRONT OF THEIR PLACE, AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS UNDERGROUND WITH DECORATIVE LIGHTING. >> SO WE CAN UNDERGROUND OTHER AREAS OF THE STREET AND JUST POLES AROUND THAT PROPERTY? >> YEAH. >> OKAY. >> I'M SORRY. >> SO IT WOULDN'T STOP THE ENTIRE STREET? >> ABSOLUTELY. IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT THAT WOULD OCCUR, BUT YES, IT CERTAINLY CAN HAPPEN. >> OKAY. >> AND CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING OUR NEW GOLF CART CROSSING AT DOUGLAS AND SKINNER. MY QUESTION IS. THAT'S A WONDERFUL CONNECTER NOW FOR NORTH DUNEDIN, THEY NOW HAVE ACCESS TO OUR DOWNTOWN. WE HAVE HAD IT AT BASS, I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> SURE. >> THIS IS JUST RIGHT THERE, A LITTLE CLOSER TO HOME FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THE WEST END. MY QUESTION IS, IS HIGHLAND NORTH COMING INTO MLK, IS THE REAL CONNECTER TO NORTH DUNEDIN, BUT YET THE CROSSING IS AT DOUGLAS. AND I UNDERSTAND THE ACTIVITY OF OUR DOWNTOWN IS AT DOUGLAS, WE'VE GOT THE CONNECTER ON A LITTLE EAST OF WHERE THE ACTIVITY IS. AND I CAN ONLY -- AND I THINK THE SIGNAGE, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DIRECT GOLF CART OWNERS ON TO DOUGLAS AND THEN CROSS AT DOUGLAS. I'M JUST -- I'M CONFIDENT THEY'RE GOING TO DISREGARD ANY SIGNAGE AND CROSS WHERE THEY WANT TO CROSS. IS THERE ANY CONCERN ABOUT THAT? IS THERE ANY? ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO GET A CROSSING AT HIGHLAND? OR DOUGLAS AND BASS ARE ENOUGH? >> NO, DOT OBVIOUSLY DICTATES, AND DOUGLAS AND BASS ARE THE BEST WE CAN GET. SO WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET ONE AT HIGHLAND, REMEMBER, IF THEY'RE -- I FORGOT THE PHRASE. IF THEY'RE -- THEY GOT A PLATE AND THEY'RE LICENSED -- >> Mayor Freaney: PLATED CAN DO EITHER, RIGHT? >> RIGHT. IT'S 25 MILES AN HOUR. ANYONE WHO HAS A LICENSE, THEY CAN TURN DOWN HIGHLAND. >> LOW SPEED VEHICLE. >> RIGHT. LOW SPEED VEHICLE. WE KNEW WE WERE THE FIRST TO GET BASS, THERE WAS NO WAY WE WERE GOING TO GET ANY MORE ON SKINNER. I UNDERSTAND YOUR SITUATION. GOLF CARTS TEND TO GO WHERE THEY WANT TO GO. IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE IT'S ENTITLEMENT. THEY DO NEED TO FOLLOW THE LAW THAT'S OUT THERE. LOW SPEED VEHICLES CAN CERTAINLY CROSS DOWN THERE. >> AND THE BUS SHELTERS. >> YES. >> YAY! PARTNERING WITH PSTA, THAT'S WONDERFUL, WHAT ARE THOSE BUS SHELTERS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? >> THEY'RE GOING TO BE SIMILAR TO WHAT'S ON MAIN STREET, THE BLACK, DECORATIVE. WHAT WE HAVE ON MAIN STREET, THOSE WERE ENHANCED A LITTLE BIT WITH THE ARTISTIC, BUT THESE WILL BE BLEK AND DECORATIVE. >> I HAVE HEARD CURRENT DESIGNS MIGHT NOT BE AS AESTHETICALLY PLEASING AS OTHER SHELTERS. ARE WE HAPPY WITH THE WAY THEY LOOK? ARE WE HAPPY WITH THE DESIGN? >> YEAH. >> IT'S GOING TO FIT IN OUR DOWNTOWN? >> YES. WE PICKED THEM OUT, SO WE WENT TO THE PSTA AND PICKED THEM OUT. NO, WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THAT'S IT. >> COMMISSIONER DUGARD. WES? >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO GO LAST, AFTER EVERYONE'S EXPIRED ALL THE QUESTIONS POSSIBLE. I'M GOING TO PICK ON A CHURCH. IS THE CHURCH IN FACT -- FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH FOR SALE OR IS IT IN DISCUSSIONS TO BE FOR SALE? >> DISCUSSIONS AT THIS TIME. THEY'RE WORKING WITH AN ARCHITECT TO SEE WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE FOR THEM. THEY SEE THE VALUE IN THE OUT PARCEL, THEY WANTED TO IMPROVE WHAT'S ON WOOD STREET AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THERE. I THINK THE CHURCH HAS LAYERS TO GO THROUGH, IN ORDER TO GET FORMALLY GO OUT WITH SOMETHING FOR SALE. >> WITH ALL THE INVESTMENT GOING ON IN THAT LITTLE FOOTPRINT RIGHT THERE. THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO AS SOON AS WE HAVE A CALENDAR ON IT, I HOPE YOU'LL BRING THAT BACK TO US. >> CERTAINLY. >> I COULDN'T HELP BUT NOTICE THAT WE HAD SHERIFF'S OFFICERS ON SKINNER TWO DAYS AGO WITH RADAR, OFFICER RENEE WAS OUT. TELL ME WHAT THAT'S ABOUT? >> WELL, IT BASICALLY, WE HAVE SOME CARS GOING TOO QUICK, TOO FAST, AND NOT RECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS A SLOWER SPEED. AND I THINK WHAT THE SHERIFF IS DOING IS HELPING US OUT BY TRYING TO SAY, HEY, YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND, THIS IS A MUCH SLOWER SPEED THAN IT WAS BEFORE. THE SHERIFF'S OUT THERE MONITORING IT, WHICH IS GOOD. >> AND I NOTICED THAT A SIGN HAD BEEN RUN OVER NOT TOO LONG AGO OUT THERE AS WELL. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> YEAH, WE'VE HAD. >> THAT WAS GOOD. >> WE WONDERED WHY THAT LITTLE PART IN YOUR BUMPER WAS THERE. >> YEAH, WE'VE HAD A FEW SIGNS KNOCKED OVER, AS PEOPLE START TO GET -- UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT A HIGH SPEED COMMUTER TO GET TO ALT 19. >> WE NEED ROUND ABOUT TRAINING, I GUESS. >> WELL, YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY DRIVE IT LIKE WE ALL DO, AND IT'S REALLY FUNCTIONING PRETTY WELL. I THINK WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, IF THEY'RE NEGATIVE, CLEARWATER'S ROUND ABOUTS, OVER 40,000 TRIPS A DAY, THIS IS 11, 8, TOPS. 12,000 TRIPS. TOTALLY DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT. AND IT'S ACCOMPLISHING WHAT WE WANTED. WE WANTED TO MAKE THIS A SAFE AREA FOR CYCLISTS, PEDESTRIANS, WE WANTED TO GET ON ON STREET PARKING. AND ONE OF THE UNIQUE THINGS ABOUT THIS TOO, THEY DO PULLOFFS. OUT OF THAT LANE. WHICH IS PRETTY COOL. UNLIKE IN FRONT OF COUNTRYSIDE MALL, YOU GO THERE, AND GET BEHIND THAT BUS. >> IT'S CRAZY. YOU. >> GET CAUGHT. >> THIS IS A BULLOFF. WE DID PRETTY GOOD. WE GOT RID OF THE OVERHEAD TRAFFIC SIGNALS. AS COMMISSIONER GOW HAD MENTIONED, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS ON THE GROUND AND GET THE DECORATIVE LIGHTING OUT THERE. >> COULDN'T AGREE MORE. I'VE HEARD THAT THERE IS A ATTITUDE AT DOT THAT WE WON'T BE DOING ANY MORE ROUND ABOUTS ELSEWHERE. DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THAT? >> NO, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M THINKING THE OPPOSITE OF THAT, I'M THINKING FORWARD PINELLAS IS REALLY FAVORING THEM. I THOUGHT DOT WAS LOOKING AT THEM HARD TOO. I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT. >> WELL, IF YOU HEAR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN A COUNTERPOINT, THEY'RE A WONDERFUL ADD. >> THEY DID ONE UP THERE ON ALT 19 IN PALM HARBOR, NEAR FLORIDA AVENUE. I THINK THEY LIKE THEM FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, IT STOPS IDLING, IN TRAFFIC BACKUP. >> ANY PLANS ON DOING TRAFFIC MONITORING OR CROSS-OVER TO CHECK SPEEDS ON IT, WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE OFFICERS OUT THERE? >> I KNOW THEY PUT THE SIGN UP THERE WITH THE SPEED. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. RIGHT NOW THEY NEED SOME MANPOWER OUT THERE. I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM, THEY'RE PROBABLY DOING SOME -- I THINK EVENTUALLY THEY'LL JUST MOVE AWAY AND GET TO ANOTHER AREA. RIGHT NOW WE NEED THEM. >> IT COULD BE -- LET'S NOT FORGET IT'S THE FIRST YEAR FOR TOURIST SEASON. >> GOOD POINT. >> IT COULD BE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T FROM THE AREA. >> YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S A -- IT'S A BIG CHANGE. BUT IT'S A GOOD CHANGE. ESPECIALLY FOR THIS CITY AND DOWNTOWN. I'M NOT SURE WHO STARTED SOME CONVERSATION. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN COMMISSIONER SANDBERGEN, WE STARTED THIS PROJECT IN 2017. THAT TELLS YOU HOW LONG IT TOOK US, WITH A $100,000 GRANT FROM FORWARD PINELLAS. WE GOT THROUGH, AND GOT A MILLION DOLLAR GRANT FROM FORWARD PINELLAS. THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME IN THE MAKING TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE. MOST OF THE THINGS I SAW TO ARE FAVORABLE. SUE BURNESS MONITORS SOCIAL MEDIA. >> ANTI-SOCIAL MEDIA IS WHO SUE CALLS IT. >> I USED TO HAVE A FORMER COMMISSIONER THAT SAID, GEE, ARE YOU WATCHING ALL THE STUFF ON FACEBOOK. AND I SAID, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I GET OVER 100 EMAILS EVERY DAY ANYWAY. IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE MY PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATION TO JENNIFER OR YOU ALL. BASED ON WHAT'S ON THE SOCIAL -- CAROLYN TELLS MY WHAT'S ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I LIKE TO BE AWARE OF IT. >> DON'T FREAK OUT ABOUT IT. >> I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE MY POSITION. I DO NEED TO BE AWARE. CAROLYN TAKES CARE OF THAT. IT'S GOOD. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. >> I CAN TELL YOU I'M LEARNING A LOT FROM CAROLYN AND MATT BEHIND ME, HOW WELL THEY USE A.I. ON DIFFERENT THINGS. HOW THEY PREPARE AND GET PRETTY EFFICIENT >> Mayor Freaney: I HEARD A HORRIBLE STORY TODAY ABOUT A.I. AND WHAT IS IT, IT'S ONE OF MUSK'S NEW PLATFORMS, YOU CAN DICTATE WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE, AND 41% OF THE STUFF IS SEXUALLY -- THEY'RE DOING SEX PICTURES. IT'S CRAZY. AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO CONTROL SOME OF THAT. >> I THINK WE USE A.I. WHERE WE CAN. >> Mayor Freaney: YEAH, IT'S X SOMETHING. I CAN'T REMEMBER. IT WAS REALLY -- YEAH, XXX. BUT. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY MORE QUESTIONS. >> Mayor Freaney: I HAVE A LOT TO ADD. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO TELL MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA, FACEBOOK, I SPOKE TO A GROUP THAT WAS PROBABLY 100 PEOPLE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, THEY WERE ALL CITIZENS, PRETTY MUCH. I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL I COME HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU, YOU CAN JUST CALL AND ASK AND PRETTY AVAILABLE. AND THEN I SAID, THE ONE THING YOU WILL NOT GET ME TO RESPOND TO IS ANY KIND OF SOCIAL MEDIA, FACEBOOK STUFF. AND EVERYBODY OUT THERE WAS LIKE YEAH! WE GET IT. THAT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. JUST EMAIL, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE YOUR CELL, TEXT. THAT'S MY LITTLE TWO CENTS ON ANTI-SOCIAL MEDIA. I WAS GOING TO SAY LOVE, LOVE, LOVE THE ROUND ABOUTS. I TRAVEL THEM ALL THE TIME, CONSTANTLY. I THINK THEY'RE GREAT. IT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT THOUGH THAT WE GOT THE VACATIONERS COMING, THE SEASONAL PEOPLE. SO REALLY GOOD POINT TO GET THEM USED TO IT. I WAS GOING TO -- I WANTED TO COMMENT TO YOUR THING, COMMISSIONER DUGARD. I ACTUALLY HAVE HEARD THAT DOT IS TAKING MORE OF A POSITION AWAY FROM COMPLETE STREETS. NOW, I DON'T KNOW. THIS WAS A COMMENT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, IT WAS ALL LIKE DON'T COME TO US AT ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO REDUCE LANES. YOU MAY WANT TO. >> WE JUST MADE IT THEN, UNDER THE WIRE. >> THAT'S WHAT I FEEL. OBVIOUSLY I'M A BELIEVER IN WHAT WE DID. >> IT'S CALLED THE RETRO FDOT. THAT'S HOW THEY WERE IN THE '80s AND '90s. >> I GUESS A DIFFERENT IDEOLOGY? >> Mayor Freaney:Y. SO MY QUESTIONS ARE, WHY WOULD ANYONE NOT WANT TO UNDERGROUND, IF IT'S A TEMPORARY EASEMENT? >> I'LL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT ONE. I THINK SOME PAST UP SETMENT THAT THE ROAD WAS CLOSED, THERE WAS CONSTRUCTION, DEBRIS, AND I LOST SOME BUSINESS. NOT AS COMFORTABLE WITH THE CITY, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND I EVEN TAPPED JORGE TO HELP US A LITTLE BIT. BUT YEAH, IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND. IT EVEN IMPROVES, WE FEEL THE CITY IMPROVES EVERYONE'S PROPERTY OUT THERE QUITE A BIT. DOING WHAT WAS DONE. IT WAS REALLY A $14 MILLION PROJECT THERE ABOUT. >> I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE HAVING THE ISSUE, I WENT BY AND I WAS LIKE, IT WON'T BE SO BAD. AND ESPECIALLY BAD FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER IN MY OPINION. >> WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THAT. >> Mayor Freaney: OKAY. I'LL LET THAT ONE GO. AND THEN HOW BIG IS THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH SITE? >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW. I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ALL >> Mayor Freaney: IF YOU'D LET US KNOW, I'D KIND OF LIKE TO KNOW. >> SMALL. I MEAN, WOOD STREET IS RIGHT THERE. >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT MAIN STREET EXCHANGE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE CATTY CORNER RIGHT ACROSS, I WAS CURIOUS HOW BIG IT WAS -- >> JORGE CAN PROBABLY LOOK IT UP WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT. >> THE PROPERTY, THEY NEED TO BE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND OTHER THINGS, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, IT'S A CHALLENGE, DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF DEPTH THERE. IT WILL B