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SP 0, 9, 3rd Seminole for Adagio located at 13, 60 Ringling Boulevard. If you could give a quick introduction as well as any changes that have occurred in the project for Joe Freeman. Freeman Consulting are Kobe car, Matthew Pickard, Kobe car brown, age or green. And we have Mike White with the developer group and Kate Johnson from. The WGA. If any of those questions come up. All right. Really, what we're trying to do is just clean things up a little bit, making a more explanatory self explanatory. We do have some interaction we want to do during the thing cause. We're a couple things we want to make sure we understand. I think we're just rated, you know, move forward. All right. For the record House currently certified Planner Development Services for Zoning current plan. We've covered. >> Couple prior comments that mean remain unresolved first of all, with the 12 foot recess are. it does not appear that well for recess has been dimension on the architectural plans. Just asking for that to be shown as well showing that the the balconies encouraging a maximum of 3 feet. You know, we forgot the dimensions on that. no problem. >> OK, we comply. Okay. And then coming over to earn the fire command room of this coming will remain until the administrator just so just process and approve top are working on. I'm getting that finalized. So that should be coming your way. We have should have a little more direction on that soon. New comments based on new application materials coming or one, the storage room along Ringling Boulevard Front is on the second floor is not considered habitable space and needs to be relocated. Please mention the 20 foot Havel space requirements along Ringling Boulevard for the second floor. We're going to be extending the line are building on. So that's going to thing's going to go away. Okay. Coming over to the cover sheet and she'd a 0 0, 0, 2 are inconsistent regarding the number of loading zones required parking calculations and bicycle parking calculations. Police up to the cover sheet and 0 debt does 0 to for consistency. Yeah. You know, you know, you see me and I never should have let the architectural plan have a site data block because you have that potential >> got it corrected. There's only 3 loading zones required. So okay. Kind 3 police cracked the parallel facade calculation on the table on 3.0 1 to Massey Justice being requested. >> There was a little we found it yesterday. There's a little box down. It. He didn't updated with the new number adjustment we submitted is the correct number, OK? Coming over for police truck. The measure and son she day for DOT 5 for the measure from ground level and Pineapple Avenue. It appears that crown levels labeled at the wrong point on the graphic. Coming over 5 police up to feel that just yeah. Just clarify that. A little just really quickly here. the elevation is is from Palm. This front he's so you're seeing the elevation on palm and then pineapple is elevated behind it. So if you look at how it floats behind, that's actually the elevation plant. Apple. So we'll label there indicating that its plan, Apple behind the building so that it doesn't it does appear like it's floating, but it's actually in the right location, OK? Okay. Thank you for that clarification. One of the few places we have a hilly yeah are a common number. 5 police up to the elevations to be consistent at the renderings top of the table, housing definition section a 2 to one. The exterior appearance, including all building finish material shall be indistinguishable between the market rate that handle This comment stems from elevations versus the other documents just one shows different out that you want to bring. You want to sit here in the middle. We you we just want to get clarification as far as what you're looking at. A This is pineapple. ? If you could just clarify as to where was he the discrepancies? So son, the renderings were celebrations. I know some the glazing is a little The balcony materials. And so we thought you were looking at. Yeah, yeah. Last CA I think that's the we do show pick in Raleigh. On a tenable. for the for the definition, they do have to be like materials and appear indistinguishable between the product types. So the balcony railing would be required and making sure that correct. Correct the same building materials for the 2 different. Styles. Yeah, I think we've got that now. All right. And then preliminary draft coming early remaining the former housing agreements provided. So that come all stay on a work with city attorney on that. Now that we settle down on the number of units, we can get him that and they drafted. From what I understand. And then advisory comment. Staff recommends the applicant schedule community workshops discussed to discuss the proposed development community due to the community. Concern over the use of bonus 10 study. We have a lot of had a lot of concern over that. And that is it for zoning. Current planning. >> Good morning, Truss sitting in on path to John 2 ways the There's no waste and recycling comments. It is great. >> Good morning, Think utility so requiring regular regulation. Doocy, DRC comments. remain unsold. The proposed Simpson tree. She held does tool for locating Have any area must be relocate outside too? Proposed the mess. They're shun fights in the top. We we've got thank you second, section landscaping plan, most aligned with updates, even play. And the 3rd the proposed raise total that are located so fun and put connected to exist. The 18 20's for them and showing the plan crossing pineapple and does not mean. Of students are solely the populist and detailed. governor does 0, 5, So I to talk you. Do we talk bit corrected? And a new comments did the mask on the proposed? See the utilities men shown as 18 to 11, 8 feet 11 by 19 feet. The 19 John keep Tech to shoot must match with the proposed. See the utility easement. This isn't a single plan. 10 feet by 18 feet. So. Yeah, just the coordination between the 2, right. Just to just to follow the see the plan. This I know it's can feed feet. He took a right. This is off. Nothing right. Thank you. Good morning, Steve. To draws the engineering all prior comments have been addressed. additional comments at this time. >> Good morning, Jackie. Hartley City are prior comments that remain unresolved. Number one, please provide a detail explanation of the area identified as and Buildable in red on pages 2, 7 through 10. What is the total square footage of this area and include the breakdown of how the root zones canned peas and she'd effects result. And this total number. Please show 20 foot dimension for the shaded area on sheet l 0, 1, a and of more information may be forthcoming as new information is provided. We've already put that to mention line on there. >> Thank you. Any relevance or so the police department, no comments. >> Good morning, Brianna. chief planner Planning I do have one comment. The structure located at 3.26. South Pineapple Avenue is listed on the Florida master site file pursuant to Section 4, a 2, 3, request to demolish structures on the Florida master site file require a historic review. If the structure is found to be it appropriate for administrative demolition approval and administrative Florida master site file demo application must be processed prior to approval of a demolition permit. If the structure requires demolition approval by the historic Preservation Board, a historic Preservation Board, Florida master site file demo application must be process and a quasi judicial public hearing scheduled prior to approval of the demolition permit. >> And we met with Doctor Smith before he passed We have that documentation where he signed off for administrative demolition. We then did another follow-up meeting this year with David Smith. But he agreed with Doctor Smith, but he didn't provide us any documentation. So I'll submit you what Doctor Smith gave us. >> think that would be very helpful because Susan Dot is I'm not familiar with that documentation right? I understand. Thank you. Good morning, Mike Taylor, deputy building official. reason for Sarasota County Fire as well as single advisory comment. Please verify the new fire staging plan. A 2 point '01 Mead Sarasota County Fire Department requirements. >> We reach out to Yeah. Just to make sure everything was in line with what they're looking for. So never. And I think think we saw was no additional comments reporting that it was just an advisory comment. A culture that needs Thank you from an application. Thank you. That. >> Good morning. Elisa Thomas traffic Concurrency prior common certain Maine resolve succumbing. One update Elton and so she says records show pedestrian access to locations below from Palm Avenue to the Be on a 601. Access to the south from the lobby needs to be shown currently their doors, which require access as well as shown on a 601 update. Elton accordingly. Okay. We want to talk me. That renderings cost us a lot of problems. Hard to understand for me. ? ? So So I think we want clarify that. >> There is access from the point of what a lobbyist cities, the set of because show plant hero. >> And is that sidewalk to mention? You can't make that we can more. Is it like Lemon Avenue or itself flush? Because that was the other. Well, just I think what we want to clarify there is the sidewalk in the right >> And then this is within the property just access to hold out until the rooms, a generator. And so for sure. >> Yeah. If you look at plan view is the expectation that pedestrians X it kind of northwest and then yes, and that's shown on the landscaping plants that shows route Destrehan route. So you would exit that way. Exactly right to the Northwest. So there's a pedestrian ramp. Adjacent to set of stairs. Also, they can take you from the building that lobbied on to the right away. And what's the access to the other doors that are shown to the South? These are just for you to utilities. Reverend. And is it flush or is there? It's flush because that field wall to access needs to be flushed out and with the generator. So the flush definitely helps. And then will also see pedestrians. >> Doing what shown in the rendering? Well. We can remove chance and real life well off. >> Should we have landscape buffers? So for so the super just for utility taxes. >> And we'll also see updates from the traffic city just from a general site circulation standpoint to okay. >> think we can the fresh definitely helps. Because then there's not like a knock or 2 foot sidewalk that many stripping and fallen then. Yeah, okay. So another circulation coming here. So to provide access route from excess will parking space 7 so that updated snow designated spot 13 and it does provide access to Pineapple Avenue, but they're still no direct access to the building lobby so if someone was to enter through that northern loading zone door, it's about 400 feet. Otherwise they have to exit and go around. The street will provide a ramp in the parking garage. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Especially like you've got the dog wash thing. So if somebody has got dog in stroller, it's more than just a okay. Thank you. And then. New for the drop-off from Palm Avenue where exits clarify the shaping provided is yellow since you've got traffic at different directions. There. That's helpful for the circulation. And then the preliminary calm and just what we have the traffic study Further comments may be pending the outcome of the traffic study and then for advisory, the architectural drawings have been updated to show the Palm Avenue and then for consistency, just also update the layer, an architectural plans to reflect the traffic circulation. Exit drop-off of Palm Avenue. And then coming to the parallel parking in bike lanes should count towards effective curb radius of the curve. Dimension is 15 feet has a greater effect of curb radius. And confirming the traffic study does have the new residential number breakdown that great yeah. And Linda, strong All right. Any other questions snow? I discuss with staff and every Seminole quite on. The subtlest traffic study is resolved. >> They didn't want that information finalized first. Just because of the traffic study, the traffic study and verifying the tree exhibit information. Because all the tree exhibit was put a dimension light on graphic. That was in the plan. >> Yes, that was the last I heard from from general manager of the director. So it seems little extreme that we have to resubmit everything and come back here. We can discuss further, but that was last direction. traffic study will be done. >> 30 days from when it was submitted. So where weekend know? 3 more weeks? ? Mike, you want to say anything or just for traffic? I haven't seen it before, but I don't know what with the traffic study would say that would cause an impact to the site plan. >> For the record, Alison Christie, general manager Development Services. We can discuss it further and kind of explain or thought process. But there's still some things that we think could affect the site plan coming out of the traffic study coming out of some of the remaining comments that we feel could affect other reviewers. And so when that happens, we always required to come back to DRC meeting. >> We've got just like developer. So we're looking at, as we've seen all these comments before we provided all the direction on these. That doesn't appear to be anything here that's going to impact what's allowable under the voting to the mikes are, you know, the thing that's going impact what's allowable under the codes and certain current state law. So what we're doing it's actually is is delaying this process for us to move forward with design on the Sara Lee, in our opinion, this point. >> You can always submit building permits before you get signoff. It's just at your risk. We can't issue any permits, but you can start that review process concurrently to save time. >> Understand and see like this unusual unnecessarily causing us delay and therefore, obviously costs. So I think it was important for for us to stay here. >> we can set up a meeting with you and your team 1000 to talk about what could possibly be the issues, other items that we're talking about? Sure. Okay. >> Just for a record, this utilities comments can be resolved when you submit rescind that summit. We fund so that will be resolved once we can see what's actually in the field. >> So really the only 2 partners not cite able to sign office is development services in traffic. It seems unusual. Yeah. Does. does seem unusual. ? ? All right. The next item on the agenda is 25 a SP tend the second Seminole for 7th and central condominiums located at 6.50, Central Avenue. ? >> Good morning. If you wouldn't mind introducing your team as well as any changes to the that have occurred that be greatly appreciated. Michael offense, health Inspection, Oak tax. >> Hasn't also happens set up talks? >> Thank you. Hawkins our Matt Morris with more >> Who did you work Parka? Tax. If you could just get a quick overview of the project as well. >> A and it is an eight-story and condominium building containing 24 units. Off of the street. 7th in central and the roads be district. All right. Thank you so much. Forward money. Some sucharski certified planner represent Development services for zoning current planning comments. We have a couple prior comments that mean unresolved talk coming or one. >> Regarding the site data table we're just for the site. David, site data table shows a max of floor area ratio of 3.0. The code does not And max, for the DTE Zone District are asking for that to be revised and include both setbacks, minimums and maximums. There's only minimal as we're shown for the front setback. Additionally, please include both require development regulations as well as the proposed in your site data table. Coming or 2. As regarding the public sidewalk amenity update for this common. We'll see a manatee zone. A sidewalk appear to narrow towards the North Eastern Corner. Police also provided a mention near 7th Street intersection to show compliance with the requirement of the with. And additionally, please remove the label that the manatee zone is impervious per Section 6, 9, 12, the surface of a manatee zone should be pervious material. Coming in. Number 3 is in regard to the urban Open space. Our update to this is that is our understanding that the open space located in the southeastern look at the southeast of the proposed building is being dedicated is urban open space per Section 6, 9, 12. And as such the maximum building height may be increased to 7 stories to accommodate the compensating floor area provided as part of the urban dose open space on site. Tecumseh, Ding floor area is equal to the area of urban open space provided multiplied by 5. Please provide the calculation. Show the square footage urban open split space multiplied by 5 in the square footage of the comments hitting floor area of Florida. 67 to ensure compliance with the code section. Additionally, please clarify how the Urban Open space is public accessible during daylight hours in accordance with the requirements provided in Section 6, 9, 12. So actually put put one. We just think you having a gate that will be on not drink. They died with offer that would require >> OK, we'll just put a note in the door. Sure that work. Thank you. Coming over for regarding a bicycle parking. The update for this, please. No short-term versus long-term bicycle parking on the plans show compliance with the above. For reference code sections. Just outlining that. A little more detail. >> Coming fives are guarding the off-street loading The update for this section 7 to 13 recourse off-street parking loading to be arranged in a safe, convenient manner. Our concern here is with the vehicle having to back from the right of way into the load The code is little specific about backing in out of the parking spaces into the right away or vice versa. So we just want to. Be able to get a little more detail on that. The show's safe in gress egress as well as house a space. How will the space remain open? >> But did you have any comments on that? Coming up, we're going to look at it runs from turning template and see how we can how we can share that with more. Clearly. >> So what if we backed into the space and you don't pulled out and pull pull forward? >> I think that's the concern is is just regarding having to back at all from the right of way or the space into the into into the right of way. And so we can to set up a meeting as well with us and traffic to discuss just how that might work out. I understand we we did it before. of you have the loading space. We would back into it. So you never. >> Back out onto the street of comes about the concern was typically. >> Backing into the right of way, not coming from the right of way into space. It's a >> fairly common thing that I've seen in other places in the city. But >> so there are a few other items of the B range for the convenient. Access and safety of both pedestrians and vehicles. And so one of my questions would be has that space controlled and if there was a gate and only you can come in once again is open to making sure that people back be very different than if it's uncontrolled and somebody pulls in. I didn't want to be here. Now they're backing out and they're confused. They don't know where they are is a very different scenario. >> What I we would have something to say that saluting space once you're pulled in. >> If a poll in and then you see the signage that you're supposed to back in. Yes, what we we can discuss a little more in just kind of clarify how it'll to ease concerns. We might have to have some turning temple tears. Well, just a >> there are verify some of that. So we can continue that discussion. But I know full of The conclusion was that a 7th street, it was not. It's an actual street because of the with of it doesn't make any difference. was considered a street. But we wrote a letter and everything to numbers okay. >> And you stole my thunder coming over on. So that was regarding trash. So you're We just asked for >> written request to the city manager or some revision to that. So we look forward to that in the a preliminary draft condition agreement must be provided prior to issuance of building permits of Urban open space remain open to the public life building. I know that you discuss that a little bit as well. So look for that note. But that's all we have for zoning current planning. >> Our interests and in on that the John to Williams and public There are no waste or recycling comment at this time. >> There's only Good morning Smart. Utilities Department on the requirements for a violation. Unfortunately due to the 2 seat was not 3 devolved. I tried to get as much as they can. Adobe, a COVID display the following message. An error exist on page Crow but may not display the page correctly. Please contact the person who created the PD of they'll come in core the problem. I kind of take screenshots know, look what they could. So just to let you know, this you do comments. Number 2, existing foreign tryline come back flow prevent to serving the existing building. Number one on Central Avenue cannot be removed. These building is not part his development and it's far line was design approved by the city and compliance with the regulations and in place of that time and including the Florida building code and so on. Comments, number 3, the project and show some it could really call collation confirming the proposed 4 inch either the 10 to serve the proposed building with movie, though, domestic war there and meat 5 flow requirements for the building and and fire Department connection. So if you know, with the 4 domestic, does he have to prove can be both? We have more than me that size that to me nation you know, 2 can use these for regarding domestic plus of fire flow requirements. The proposed toll of war. The service shows include the RPC. It's comments number 5 due to the plant show Trojan existing. The feat twice E the utility easement. This is. But book 14. 42 teens before to 42 page full. 45 a copy of agreement showed including next plans to me, though, according to the Dcm Comets know I tried to find that couldn't. So if you if you have. Wouldn't to see what these new of the season and this is for the on the South side for the existing go waste main. Comets number 6, the existing 2 And this note in his book one, 29 page. 22 should vacated if no longer used. It says the coin wayside copy of these men, men should be included with the next plan. Some, you know, called comments. Number 7. The plan show in the 2, 5, which was the line existing more than need them back for prevent to be used as the war. The so is doing to construction. So I went and the coin brand, I put all of the me there and I this is one either serving existing building, but those so when the record we have 5, 8, neither I think this is in the semis. Keith, you have to find and see what the serial number me, their number and And you can use one of them for doing the construction. But you have to. He indicate we try and always will be lay there out to the construction, on the main and remove. So you have to meet the one inch in I couldn't find Fy 8, I think is in the 7th Street. But comments number 8, the demolition and utility plan. So chilled the site the size. More than me, the number and serial number on the meters to be removed. The information will be used to call, develop bows of abuses of credit. So its place pay for the the impact fee. It's beneficial for to develop. Comments. Number following utility know showed the place the motion did comments number 10, but existing foreign fight the and file line connected to the 4 water main and 7 street should be shown the demolition utility to shape since the show be removed. It kept them to Maine. You have file line in the 7th Street. They always can see it's next to the sidewalk. The proposed snow comments, number pair have see So the utility department on the details, Deputy Governor you know, fi waste or that we know that is required and should be located with the city utility easement near these men climb because you have this existing, then feet wide to utilities. just to being said, the easement closed three-month lie. Comments number trees may be proposed with existing Feet wide these men contain see the growing call. And that there has to be access to the season if needed for maintenance purposes or replacement comments. Number 14 to propose tree must maintain close on that clearance for existence of utility proposed service fund. According to the A guide and the law. So you have I'm always the quote, stunned that he's number 15, the closest on the details for Want to plan should the updated report parade in the next 2 in planned? So just to go from beginning of and see which one apply for the for the project. It would be fine. This is it stunned the advisory comment. And if you're okay with that soccer will update plan. The millet to let you take a look at it. No program since we have issue with the PDF as well. Make sure you can actually right. >> This is great. Thank you. Good morning. Steve draws the engineering just a couple comments. A common number one provide a public sidewalk easement for any portion of the proposed sidewalk that is not located within the existing 8 foot sidewalk right away easement and that's along 7th Street. And then come in. Number 2 is the proposed driveway shown on the civil sheets does not match the proposed driveway showing on the landscape heats. So please revise that accordingly. >> Good morning. Checking currently city just a reminder that more information may be forthcoming as new information is provided. And in addition that you need a tree removal permit before you when you remove Any Robin Sarasota Department, no comments. We have jobs plan. department comments. >> Mike Taylor, deputy building official building has no Fire department Jason Smith also has no comments. Good morning. Elisa Thomas traffic Concurrency pair comments. So pursuant to transportation chapter action, sure to G 2.2 sister was no wider than necessary to come the design vehicle. So that's confirming that you'll be using the reduced driveway shown on the landscaping plans. L 0, 1, or that the driveway is currently 32 feet wide on C 6.0 does not meet the 24 foot traveling with and for proposed designs that do not meet the and technical deviations required proposed. Please note that the provision requires a detailed study prepared until they licensed professional engineer, which demonstrates that the proposed eviation will result in a preferable environment are designed outcomes. And then be revised. The learning zone to conform a city code section 7 to 3 record parking should be provided accordance with falling general requirements. So except provided in Section 7 to 6.10, required off-street parking areas for 5 or more vehicles must be designed to ensure the parking maneuvering incident on the parking or loading occurs in any public street or sidewalk that vehicles may be parked or in part without requiring movement of another vehicle. Be arranged for convenient access and safety of both pedestrians and vehicles. 9 be designs that vehicles are not required impact directly on the public streets. 10 include curbs motor vehicle stops or similar devices to prevent vehicles overhang and the public right away or Jason properties with exceptions for grass or grass pay for parking. 2 pretty bcm per 5 section. The 3 existing right away within half of existing right away to some to save without regard to whether streets provide access to the development should be improved by constructing Rodeway Inn or bike lanes in or curb. And gutter in our streets talking for those downtown environs Area Street design standards E-street shown in figure D to Fade Page 5.12, all secondary streets conform to the requirements support for this manual. There's a common about 7 street to just addressing that that 7 street is a street has confirmed on July 28th making up for that helpful. A common 3 pretty dcm figure D E to the cross section for Central avenues. St 50 27 streets. moment are required so. Revised the curb radius that Central Avenue and 7th Street to 15 feet or per Section D 80 with parallel parking in bike lanes, counting towards effective curb radius. Proposed design appears to be updated on architectural site plan update and dimensions. Associate proposed design and for those designs that do not meet the ECM technical deviation is required. And coming for 26 central avenues to zoom in. And that's a bike lane. Transportation temperature figure T 7 central avenues of Pike route multi-modal connections plan. Central avenues potential shared lane markings to provide shows. remove this straight dedicated bike lane shown in C 6 as it does not provide adequate space for the vehicular travel lanes. Instead, provide chairs has requested. Coming I'm a little bit behind in terms to and are running this. But we don't have anything up along central arriving and that's outside of the scope of the project. You know, the project itself is a corner of 7th and Cohen there's an existing building on Central Avenue, but we're not touching anything on that side. >> So that's why for coming to their has basically your existing right away within or the half adjacent to whether they are for access or not are included. And so it's by personal. And since that entire Pursell has that right away, frontage. That's what's involving another right away. So for and I don't think it work for everyone else. But for my nephew, just cut the line. And then had that only that property boundary, then central would not be included. So in for that one, I think that's an easy one of just remove the bike lane and put the Cheryl's there. Her transfer. So 5 per transportation chapter figure T 1, 7, treats a local road Preeti see in figure 4, 9, and so minimum 5 foot sidewalk and some minimum planting ship for feet wide. So just following up with Steve coming for update the easement for that sidewalk. There. Cut 6 Perry to see him for to the cross sections for Cohen weighs in. St 50 24 a different route. Same elements required so just the curve there decreased to 15 feet, including the parking for the effective or per Section D 80. 7 at the intersections of Central Avenue and 7th Street provide ADA compliant ramps for the crosswalks across 7 Central Avenue and 7th Street. The line, the pedestrians with the crosswalk direction and sure adequate space for pedestrians remaining on the sidewalk. So sidewalk path remains fully accessible. Update. The crosswalk striping. So for the existing driveway on the west side of Central Avenue shown to far north graphic leans. So just the dash lines to match the existing driveway and then show the reshaping crosswalk across Central Avenue which is needed for the resurfacing. The crosswalk will connect the southern edge of 7th and central intersection with the northern corner of the drive on the west side of central at him update 80 ramp at the southwest corner of 7th and central to direct pedestrians along the crosswalk rather than die ugly out into Central at the intersections of Cohen way and some street cred. 88 complaint ramps for the Cross Works Cross 7th in line pedestrians with the crosswalk direction. Sure. Adequate space for possessions, raining on sidewalks of sidewalk path remains full access will update the crosswalk shaping as needed. And so show the restricting of the stop bar in crosswalk for the resurfacing ADA ramp that. ? Directs positions on the crosswalk. And then new comments ensure the Vta Inlet great is compatible with bicycle tires. Consider travel direction for both along 7th Street and entering exiting the driveway. And then to configure vehicular access. Such that right away. Zeal done in vehicles entering the site, comply with any tea CD francais driveway strip, including stop part directional pavement advisory of prior and she 0, 1, 0, revised proposed bicycle rack to ecmc nerd inverted. You bicycle racks pair figure St 19, provide alternative that features running corners or minimize risk of damaging equipment. So she eats a s 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, 3, still referencing that. Your collection bike racks with steel bars shown providers specification showing that there's a Phillip finish or something on there try to pull spec Let me so. >> So that does detail 9 on 103, does have that data detail. And it is round. >> Okay. I will double check that and see if I see the details on their okay. And it was Ellis. >> 103, detail. 9. >> And then the last comment Courtney, with the Fire Department building department to confirm with volunteer needed at the fire department connection by the loading zone by Colin One. >> All right. With that, we will be requiring a just as we verify all that hardship letter in the Open space, Calyx, at least pretty with substantial utilities and traffic comments. So feel free to reach out to us with any questions as you present Reeseville who you would like to do is set up a meeting go through all of the common Senate, how we responded to them just to make sure that there's not another coming. I think we're coming to the end of this point I do think that and this is based on the you know, conversation we've separately with staff in terms of, you know, there's definitely some comments that old founded, but I don't know of. You know, they should on the site on a petition, you know, in terms of some of these could be advisory because they could use to be done during the building permit. You know, I mean, for example, too, the coming in terms of a great full bicycle wheels to go over and support take. You know, that's all fine. But it probably doesn't shouldn't figure a disability stage. You know, and that's what we're trying to, you know, make sure that, you know, some complication can go through a little bit quicker because coming state that could definitely be done. And I don't mean to pick on that. Want to just in general. I think that to highlight you don't come in sick. You know, this could be a so drawing the building phase might be no more appropriate. Our. >> Sure. Having have a deeper please reach out as you prepare the recent. We're happy to discuss in the comments you had a prior as well. >> And for that, do we doing post always over Do do? We do it with each individual department do we have one meeting with everybody to just go through how we responded to the Commons. Just window wasting your time. You know, wasting, you know, it's not know. It will be time as we said that or I think it depends on how the how substantial comments are from individual reviewers. If you're a law for for example, are a lot of utility comments. I would say of you for that. You can feel free to reach out directly to FOX. there's some maybe some comments that align with. >> Zoning as well traffic. We can jump on a call or meet to discuss that in person as Thank you. Of course. Thank you so much for free to reach out. If you have any questions you time. All right. Any staff discussion. >> I just realized we didn't put this on the agenda. So on to say the Temple, Beth Redevelopment, the 25 a SP 13, I believe got full sign off and we did issue that approval letter. So that administrative site plan after they came back with with has been proved. >> All right. Thank you so much with that of the DRC meeting is adjourned.

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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE

Rebecca Webster, AICP, Acting Development Review Chief Planner

08:45 a.m. October 1, 2025

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DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS

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25-ASP-09 (Third Submittal) Adagio, 1360 Ringling Blvd.: Application for Administrative Site Plan approval for development of a residential multifamily building located at 1360 Ringling Blvd., 202 S. Palm Ave., and 330 S. Pineapple Ave. The proposed development includes an 18-story building and a 9-story building containing approximately 113 market-rate condominium units and 76 attainable units utilizing Florida?s Live Local Act and the City of Sarasota?s Attainable Housing Density Bonus, as well as +/- 31,933 square feet of commercial space. The site is located within the Downtown Core (DTC) zone district with a Future Land Use designation of Downtown Core. Access is proposed from S. Palm Ave. and Pineapple Ave. (Tom Sacharski, AICP, Planner, Development Services)

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25-ASP-10 (Second Submittal) 7th & Central Condominiums, 650 Central Avenue: Application requesting Administrative Site Plan approval to redevelop a portion of an approximately 1.09-acre site zoned Downtown Edge (DTE) with a Future Land Use designation of Downtown Edge. Central Avenue is a Primary Street in this location. A new building fronting 7th Street with 24 residential units, seven (7)-stories in height, is proposed with a new public park abutting Cohen Way. The existing building abutting Central Avenue is proposed to remain. The existing building abutting Cohen Way is proposed to be demolished. No attainable units are proposed. Vehicular access will remain from 7th Street. (Tom Sacharski, AICP, Planner, Development Services)

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SP 0, 9, 3rd Seminole for Adagio located at 13, 60 Ringling Boulevard. If you could give a quick introduction as well as any changes that have occurred in the project for Joe Freeman. Freeman Consulting are Kobe car, Matthew Pickard, Kobe car brown, age or green. And we have Mike White with the developer group and Kate Johnson from. The WGA. If any of those questions come up. All right. Really, what we're trying to do is just clean things up a little bit, making a more explanatory self explanatory. We do have some interaction we want to do during the thing cause. We're a couple things we want to make sure we understand. I think we're just rated, you know, move forward. All right. For the record House currently certified Planner Development Services for Zoning current plan. We've covered. >> Couple prior comments that mean remain unresolved first of all, with the 12 foot recess are. it does not appear that well for recess has been dimension on the architectural plans. Just asking for that to be shown as well showing that the the balconies encouraging a maximum of 3 feet. You know, we forgot the dimensions on that. no problem. >> OK, we comply. Okay. And then coming over to earn the fire command room of this coming will remain until the administrator just so just process and approve top are working on. I'm getting that finalized. So that should be coming your way. We have should have a little more direction on that soon. New comments based on new application materials coming or one, the storage room along Ringling Boulevard Front is on the second floor is not considered habitable space and needs to be relocated. Please mention the 20 foot Havel space requirements along Ringling Boulevard for the second floor. We're going to be extending the line are building on. So that's going to thing's going to go away. Okay. Coming over to the cover sheet and she'd a 0 0, 0, 2 are inconsistent regarding the number of loading zones required parking calculations and bicycle parking calculations. Police up to the cover sheet and 0 debt does 0 to for consistency. Yeah. You know, you know, you see me and I never should have let the architectural plan have a site data block because you have that potential >> got it corrected. There's only 3 loading zones required. So okay. Kind 3 police cracked the parallel facade calculation on the table on 3.0 1 to Massey Justice being requested. >> There was a little we found it yesterday. There's a little box down. It. He didn't updated with the new number adjustment we submitted is the correct number, OK? Coming over for police truck. The measure and son she day for DOT 5 for the measure from ground level and Pineapple Avenue. It appears that crown levels labeled at the wrong point on the graphic. Coming over 5 police up to feel that just yeah. Just clarify that. A little just really quickly here. the elevation is is from Palm. This front he's so you're seeing the elevation on palm and then pineapple is elevated behind it. So if you look at how it floats behind, that's actually the elevation plant. Apple. So we'll label there indicating that its plan, Apple behind the building so that it doesn't it does appear like it's floating, but it's actually in the right location, OK? Okay. Thank you for that clarification. One of the few places we have a hilly yeah are a common number. 5 police up to the elevations to be consistent at the renderings top of the table, housing definition section a 2 to one. The exterior appearance, including all building finish material shall be indistinguishable between the market rate that handle This comment stems from elevations versus the other documents just one shows different out that you want to bring. You want to sit here in the middle. We you we just want to get clarification as far as what you're looking at. A This is pineapple. ? If you could just clarify as to where was he the discrepancies? So son, the renderings were celebrations. I know some the glazing is a little The balcony materials. And so we thought you were looking at. Yeah, yeah. Last CA I think that's the we do show pick in Raleigh. On a tenable. for the for the definition, they do have to be like materials and appear indistinguishable between the product types. So the balcony railing would be required and making sure that correct. Correct the same building materials for the 2 different. Styles. Yeah, I think we've got that now. All right. And then preliminary draft coming early remaining the former housing agreements provided. So that come all stay on a work with city attorney on that. Now that we settle down on the number of units, we can get him that and they drafted. From what I understand. And then advisory comment. Staff recommends the applicant schedule community workshops discussed to discuss the proposed development community due to the community. Concern over the use of bonus 10 study. We have a lot of had a lot of concern over that. And that is it for zoning. Current planning. >> Good morning, Truss sitting in on path to John 2 ways the There's no waste and recycling comments. It is great. >> Good morning, Think utility so requiring regular regulation. Doocy, DRC comments. remain unsold. The proposed Simpson tree. She held does tool for locating Have any area must be relocate outside too? Proposed the mess. They're shun fights in the top. We we've got thank you second, section landscaping plan, most aligned with updates, even play. And the 3rd the proposed raise total that are located so fun and put connected to exist. The 18 20's for them and showing the plan crossing pineapple and does not mean. Of students are solely the populist and detailed. governor does 0, 5, So I to talk you. Do we talk bit corrected? And a new comments did the mask on the proposed? See the utilities men shown as 18 to 11, 8 feet 11 by 19 feet. The 19 John keep Tech to shoot must match with the proposed. See the utility easement. This isn't a single plan. 10 feet by 18 feet. So. Yeah, just the coordination between the 2, right. Just to just to follow the see the plan. This I know it's can feed feet. He took a right. This is off. Nothing right. Thank you. Good morning, Steve. To draws the engineering all prior comments have been addressed. additional comments at this time. >> Good morning, Jackie. Hartley City are prior comments that remain unresolved. Number one, please provide a detail explanation of the area identified as and Buildable in red on pages 2, 7 through 10. What is the total square footage of this area and include the breakdown of how the root zones canned peas and she'd effects result. And this total number. Please show 20 foot dimension for the shaded area on sheet l 0, 1, a and of more information may be forthcoming as new information is provided. We've already put that to mention line on there. >> Thank you. Any relevance or so the police department, no comments. >> Good morning, Brianna. chief planner Planning I do have one comment. The structure located at 3.26. South Pineapple Avenue is listed on the Florida master site file pursuant to Section 4, a 2, 3, request to demolish structures on the Florida master site file require a historic review. If the structure is found to be it appropriate for administrative demolition approval and administrative Florida master site file demo application must be processed prior to approval of a demolition permit. If the structure requires demolition approval by the historic Preservation Board, a historic Preservation Board, Florida master site file demo application must be process and a quasi judicial public hearing scheduled prior to approval of the demolition permit. >> And we met with Doctor Smith before he passed We have that documentation where he signed off for administrative demolition. We then did another follow-up meeting this year with David Smith. But he agreed with Doctor Smith, but he didn't provide us any documentation. So I'll submit you what Doctor Smith gave us. >> think that would be very helpful because Susan Dot is I'm not familiar with that documentation right? I understand. Thank you. Good morning, Mike Taylor, deputy building official. reason for Sarasota County Fire as well as single advisory comment. Please verify the new fire staging plan. A 2 point '01 Mead Sarasota County Fire Department requirements. >> We reach out to Yeah. Just to make sure everything was in line with what they're looking for. So never. And I think think we saw was no additional comments reporting that it was just an advisory comment. A culture that needs Thank you from an application. Thank you. That. >> Good morning. Elisa Thomas traffic Concurrency prior common certain Maine resolve succumbing. One update Elton and so she says records show pedestrian access to locations below from Palm Avenue to the Be on a 601. Access to the south from the lobby needs to be shown currently their doors, which require access as well as shown on a 601 update. Elton accordingly. Okay. We want to talk me. That renderings cost us a lot of problems. Hard to understand for me. ? ? So So I think we want clarify that. >> There is access from the point of what a lobbyist cities, the set of because show plant hero. >> And is that sidewalk to mention? You can't make that we can more. Is it like Lemon Avenue or itself flush? Because that was the other. Well, just I think what we want to clarify there is the sidewalk in the right >> And then this is within the property just access to hold out until the rooms, a generator. And so for sure. >> Yeah. If you look at plan view is the expectation that pedestrians X it kind of northwest and then yes, and that's shown on the landscaping plants that shows route Destrehan route. So you would exit that way. Exactly right to the Northwest. So there's a pedestrian ramp. Adjacent to set of stairs. Also, they can take you from the building that lobbied on to the right away. And what's the access to the other doors that are shown to the South? These are just for you to utilities. Reverend. And is it flush or is there? It's flush because that field wall to access needs to be flushed out and with the generator. So the flush definitely helps. And then will also see pedestrians. >> Doing what shown in the rendering? Well. We can remove chance and real life well off. >> Should we have landscape buffers? So for so the super just for utility taxes. >> And we'll also see updates from the traffic city just from a general site circulation standpoint to okay. >> think we can the fresh definitely helps. Because then there's not like a knock or 2 foot sidewalk that many stripping and fallen then. Yeah, okay. So another circulation coming here. So to provide access route from excess will parking space 7 so that updated snow designated spot 13 and it does provide access to Pineapple Avenue, but they're still no direct access to the building lobby so if someone was to enter through that northern loading zone door, it's about 400 feet. Otherwise they have to exit and go around. The street will provide a ramp in the parking garage. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Especially like you've got the dog wash thing. So if somebody has got dog in stroller, it's more than just a okay. Thank you. And then. New for the drop-off from Palm Avenue where exits clarify the shaping provided is yellow since you've got traffic at different directions. There. That's helpful for the circulation. And then the preliminary calm and just what we have the traffic study Further comments may be pending the outcome of the traffic study and then for advisory, the architectural drawings have been updated to show the Palm Avenue and then for consistency, just also update the layer, an architectural plans to reflect the traffic circulation. Exit drop-off of Palm Avenue. And then coming to the parallel parking in bike lanes should count towards effective curb radius of the curve. Dimension is 15 feet has a greater effect of curb radius. And confirming the traffic study does have the new residential number breakdown that great yeah. And Linda, strong All right. Any other questions snow? I discuss with staff and every Seminole quite on. The subtlest traffic study is resolved. >> They didn't want that information finalized first. Just because of the traffic study, the traffic study and verifying the tree exhibit information. Because all the tree exhibit was put a dimension light on graphic. That was in the plan. >> Yes, that was the last I heard from from general manager of the director. So it seems little extreme that we have to resubmit everything and come back here. We can discuss further, but that was last direction. traffic study will be done. >> 30 days from when it was submitted. So where weekend know? 3 more weeks? ? Mike, you want to say anything or just for traffic? I haven't seen it before, but I don't know what with the traffic study would say that would cause an impact to the site plan. >> For the record, Alison Christie, general manager Development Services. We can discuss it further and kind of explain or thought process. But there's still some things that we think could affect the site plan coming out of the traffic study coming out of some of the remaining comments that we feel could affect other reviewers. And so when that happens, we always required to come back to DRC meeting. >> We've got just like developer. So we're looking at, as we've seen all these comments before we provided all the direction on these. That doesn't appear to be anything here that's going to impact what's allowable under the voting to the mikes are, you know, the thing that's going impact what's allowable under the codes and certain current state law. So what we're doing it's actually is is delaying this process for us to move forward with design on the Sara Lee, in our opinion, this point. >> You can always submit building permits before you get signoff. It's just at your risk. We can't issue any permits, but you can start that review process concurrently to save time. >> Understand and see like this unusual unnecessarily causing us delay and therefore, obviously costs. So I think it was important for for us to stay here. >> we can set up a meeting with you and your team 1000 to talk about what could possibly be the issues, other items that we're talking about? Sure. Okay. >> Just for a record, this utilities comments can be resolved when you submit rescind that summit. We fund so that will be resolved once we can see what's actually in the field. >> So really the only 2 partners not cite able to sign office is development services in traffic. It seems unusual. Yeah. Does. does seem unusual. ? ? All right. The next item on the agenda is 25 a SP tend the second Seminole for 7th and central condominiums located at 6.50, Central Avenue. ? >> Good morning. If you wouldn't mind introducing your team as well as any changes to the that have occurred that be greatly appreciated. Michael offense, health Inspection, Oak tax. >> Hasn't also happens set up talks? >> Thank you. Hawkins our Matt Morris with more >> Who did you work Parka? Tax. If you could just get a quick overview of the project as well. >> A and it is an eight-story and condominium building containing 24 units. Off of the street. 7th in central and the roads be district. All right. Thank you so much. Forward money. Some sucharski certified planner represent Development services for zoning current planning comments. We have a couple prior comments that mean unresolved talk coming or one. >> Regarding the site data table we're just for the site. David, site data table shows a max of floor area ratio of 3.0. The code does not And max, for the DTE Zone District are asking for that to be revised and include both setbacks, minimums and maximums. There's only minimal as we're shown for the front setback. Additionally, please include both require development regulations as well as the proposed in your site data table. Coming or 2. As regarding the public sidewalk amenity update for this common. We'll see a manatee zone. A sidewalk appear to narrow towards the North Eastern Corner. Police also provided a mention near 7th Street intersection to show compliance with the requirement of the with. And additionally, please remove the label that the manatee zone is impervious per Section 6, 9, 12, the surface of a manatee zone should be pervious material. Coming in. Number 3 is in regard to the urban Open space. Our update to this is that is our understanding that the open space located in the southeastern look at the southeast of the proposed building is being dedicated is urban open space per Section 6, 9, 12. And as such the maximum building height may be increased to 7 stories to accommodate the compensating floor area provided as part of the urban dose open space on site. Tecumseh, Ding floor area is equal to the area of urban open space provided multiplied by 5. Please provide the calculation. Show the square footage urban open split space multiplied by 5 in the square footage of the comments hitting floor area of Florida. 67 to ensure compliance with the code section. Additionally, please clarify how the Urban Open space is public accessible during daylight hours in accordance with the requirements provided in Section 6, 9, 12. So actually put put one. We just think you having a gate that will be on not drink. They died with offer that would require >> OK, we'll just put a note in the door. Sure that work. Thank you. Coming over for regarding a bicycle parking. The update for this, please. No short-term versus long-term bicycle parking on the plans show compliance with the above. For reference code sections. Just outlining that. A little more detail. >> Coming fives are guarding the off-street loading The update for this section 7 to 13 recourse off-street parking loading to be arranged in a safe, convenient manner. Our concern here is with the vehicle having to back from the right of way into the load The code is little specific about backing in out of the parking spaces into the right away or vice versa. So we just want to. Be able to get a little more detail on that. The show's safe in gress egress as well as house a space. How will the space remain open? >> But did you have any comments on that? Coming up, we're going to look at it runs from turning template and see how we can how we can share that with more. Clearly. >> So what if we backed into the space and you don't pulled out and pull pull forward? >> I think that's the concern is is just regarding having to back at all from the right of way or the space into the into into the right of way. And so we can to set up a meeting as well with us and traffic to discuss just how that might work out. I understand we we did it before. of you have the loading space. We would back into it. So you never. >> Back out onto the street of comes about the concern was typically. >> Backing into the right of way, not coming from the right of way into space. It's a >> fairly common thing that I've seen in other places in the city. But >> so there are a few other items of the B range for the convenient. Access and safety of both pedestrians and vehicles. And so one of my questions would be has that space controlled and if there was a gate and only you can come in once again is open to making sure that people back be very different than if it's uncontrolled and somebody pulls in. I didn't want to be here. Now they're backing out and they're confused. They don't know where they are is a very different scenario. >> What I we would have something to say that saluting space once you're pulled in. >> If a poll in and then you see the signage that you're supposed to back in. Yes, what we we can discuss a little more in just kind of clarify how it'll to ease concerns. We might have to have some turning temple tears. Well, just a >> there are verify some of that. So we can continue that discussion. But I know full of The conclusion was that a 7th street, it was not. It's an actual street because of the with of it doesn't make any difference. was considered a street. But we wrote a letter and everything to numbers okay. >> And you stole my thunder coming over on. So that was regarding trash. So you're We just asked for >> written request to the city manager or some revision to that. So we look forward to that in the a preliminary draft condition agreement must be provided prior to issuance of building permits of Urban open space remain open to the public life building. I know that you discuss that a little bit as well. So look for that note. But that's all we have for zoning current planning. >> Our interests and in on that the John to Williams and public There are no waste or recycling comment at this time. >> There's only Good morning Smart. Utilities Department on the requirements for a violation. Unfortunately due to the 2 seat was not 3 devolved. I tried to get as much as they can. Adobe, a COVID display the following message. An error exist on page Crow but may not display the page correctly. Please contact the person who created the PD of they'll come in core the problem. I kind of take screenshots know, look what they could. So just to let you know, this you do comments. Number 2, existing foreign tryline come back flow prevent to serving the existing building. Number one on Central Avenue cannot be removed. These building is not part his development and it's far line was design approved by the city and compliance with the regulations and in place of that time and including the Florida building code and so on. Comments, number 3, the project and show some it could really call collation confirming the proposed 4 inch either the 10 to serve the proposed building with movie, though, domestic war there and meat 5 flow requirements for the building and and fire Department connection. So if you know, with the 4 domestic, does he have to prove can be both? We have more than me that size that to me nation you know, 2 can use these for regarding domestic plus of fire flow requirements. The proposed toll of war. The service shows include the RPC. It's comments number 5 due to the plant show Trojan existing. The feat twice E the utility easement. This is. But book 14. 42 teens before to 42 page full. 45 a copy of agreement showed including next plans to me, though, according to the Dcm Comets know I tried to find that couldn't. So if you if you have. Wouldn't to see what these new of the season and this is for the on the South side for the existing go waste main. Comets number 6, the existing 2 And this note in his book one, 29 page. 22 should vacated if no longer used. It says the coin wayside copy of these men, men should be included with the next plan. Some, you know, called comments. Number 7. The plan show in the 2, 5, which was the line existing more than need them back for prevent to be used as the war. The so is doing to construction. So I went and the coin brand, I put all of the me there and I this is one either serving existing building, but those so when the record we have 5, 8, neither I think this is in the semis. Keith, you have to find and see what the serial number me, their number and And you can use one of them for doing the construction. But you have to. He indicate we try and always will be lay there out to the construction, on the main and remove. So you have to meet the one inch in I couldn't find Fy 8, I think is in the 7th Street. But comments number 8, the demolition and utility plan. So chilled the site the size. More than me, the number and serial number on the meters to be removed. The information will be used to call, develop bows of abuses of credit. So its place pay for the the impact fee. It's beneficial for to develop. Comments. Number following utility know showed the place the motion did comments number 10, but existing foreign fight the and file line connected to the 4 water main and 7 street should be shown the demolition utility to

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