School Board Special Meeting

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Stop the program and create a list. Stop. To. Make a list called list Keys. For all Sprite new blocked Initialize the list. Her blocks. Make-up lock, call it. Initial eyes. I want to do >> Good >> morning, everybody. Welcome to tonight. Special meeting of the County School board when officially call this meeting to order. If you guys will rise with me and I we'll do the Pledge of Allegiance. >> But leave it to stakes and to public. We just nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. MAY be seated. >> All First item up is approval of the agenda. We did have some agenda amendments, adding some of the contract language, the board material for. >> The personnel files as well was added. So those were our agenda for our amendments. Do I have a motion to approve the agenda? Moved second. All right. Let's go vote on the approval of this morning's agenda. >> I my voting works too. >> Back in the game. >> public comment is next. And no public comment, correct? All right. So on moving forward to go new business with this is a superintendent recommendations. So MISTER CHAIRMAN. >> Yes, everyone, I recommend the approval of the appointments change of assignments, promotions, reappointments reassignments resignations, retirement suspensions, termination transfers, essentially a lot of hr work. I recommend the approval of that. So moved. >> Second, motion is second before leaving this. I will say retirement going on. And I just I want to specifically one of my favorite teachers growing up and she dealt with with, you know, a lot for me, probably as a 4th but Miss Miss sales ms Thomas Stuart Elementary. 36 years with your party last night, she has taught to in school my mom and dad, you know, throughout high school and things and then taught myself my sister, my brother, my nephew and probably all of my good friends in close friends I've had since elementary school. So congratulations to her 36 years is a long time but barely be by MISTER Dunn, French. And if anyone knows Frein showed she was yeah, he was my my is a principle when I first started teaching and bring river, learned a lot from him learn how to how how to jump be a part of kids lies at the school level. So what want to thank him for service 40 years. I know he's not done talk sleet, Hill AUGUST and I told and there some further yellow, something we've been planted. But dob, I want to take a graduation. Body retiring lot. Lot of long tan your people that'll be tough to replace and thankful for their service. Let's go ahead and vote on the approval of the appointment change of assignments. Promotions. Reappointments resigned resignation to Time And that passes 5 to 0. Item. Number 2, this is a U.S. Superintedent recommendation. This is us Dr, MR. Di myself and MR. Chapman worked on the Superintedent supplemental contract from MR. Chapman, everybody. Has been given and I think even a chance to talk to you, MISTER Die is there. Well, I guess ask for motion in a second before. We certainly discussed. So moved. Motion second MR. Died. You want to say anything about the contractor? The board members lined up to speak. If you wish. Yeah, let me just run through it. I think would be appropriate >> so >> the board, too. Versions of the agreement. We've done these agreements in the past. As you can imagine. I got some advice from Doctor Vogel of what's going on in the state. The forms pretty simple. I'm sure. Everybody read it and it was pretty easy understand. It's kind of a minature contract like a full superintendent engagement contract. But just simplistic because it's for, you know, it's for a limited period of time. The I think the board has to How long to make the term. And I put in first draft through after we talked about it, the CHAIRMAN, I SEPTEMBER 5th. >> The Mariupol, whatever number you want, the the reason for that was not in that on SEPTEMBER one just a holiday. The think we had that happen once and it was we didn't have like an intern. Gotten better by saying it is not a good idea is we're >> The so we just did the 5th. Terminate automatically on the appointment of a new full-time superintendent. >> It states so there was an initial discussion of MR. Chapman, way in search. Well, one even wanting to return to employment after the being in a room superintendent as associate superintendent, which would be a promotion. But the more I looked into that I felt that was really the job, the duty of the new superintendent to do. With, you know, it would get approved by the board, but so that He would like for that to happen. And I I took that out of the final version. Because I just I just don't think fits the. The legal organization School boards who hired the superintendent. Statute the superintendent. Determines there cabinet, so to speak. And then the board approved. So think that's what should be followed. But now, you know, Chapman would like to have that. Ashley, after serving as a superintendent. And having those skills. Anyway, I took the l a the draft. The salary after after researching what's going on the state conduct Vogel looking at the most recent, I think most recent being in the transfer of the of the superintendent from Naples, interim basis to which was at 19,500 a month. The practice in the state for in the rooms is is to basically supplement their salary. To what the superintendent was was getting. The 19 is is right there in this case. If you if you look at Dr Weiss on where his salary began. And then also. You look at what being done just recently intellectual. It's right there. So the 95 is is what I put in your first draft. Look. All of this, the board, of course, has to prove so in addition to that, the majority of benefits that you put in a full-time superintendent contract not included one of these interim contracts. But it does include. Vehicle allowance, which suggested $600 a month, Dr Watson's with 6.50 Which he negotiated the. Cell phone provided by school you know, electronic devices. Pretty standard. The the MR. Chapman's already getting many of these benefits as an employee. They just continue. You know, retirement system, health insurance, there's fence expense account. Seems. Let's go talk to us on had $400 a month for. Paying expenses related to the position. And that's about So happy to answer any questions. We do have someone with a question, MR. Thank turned I'm in. Section 3, Sub b, 1, 2, and 3. So in. >> I just want make sure this was the of tension. Number 3 sick days that MR. Chapman will accrue sick days at the same rate as any other district administrators. So and so forth. That it looks like that applies the number 2 above it. Personal days and then. It's not as clear a number one, because the wave in reading number one vacation days. Upon executions contract, the school board will provide. 25 vacation days for the year. Is that also 25 days, prorated. Right? Yes, it would ok, but you just it wasn't because number 3 very clear. And that's what I was after. But it just read to me that, ok, once we execute this, he's going to 25 vacation days. And its parade parade. MR. Trump, was your understanding well. Doesn't think you Thank you. Okay. And then kind of a MAY just climb. Just want to make sure under it. Number 6, indemnification that provides protection to MR. Chapman. For any legal stuff arising out of the performance of his job duties and the board would be responsible for defending him. Which page and in that section 6 of them Haitian. Yes, that's great. Just want make sure. Thank you. It's a it's not expect very similar to just what's in the superintendent and tracked. Yeah. Just wanted to highlight that. Think it's fair. Couple of things. >> On number 6 page, number 2, number 6 for the cell phone. This is temporary. >> Rule. I don't know we need to go to the. Process of getting him a cell phone. I think we could probably. Compensate him for what? He's paying for a cell service instead of do owned by phone. The phone. It is using his phone now, I don't I don't know if as a district appointed on. I do not okay. I don't know if just for just 2 or 2 and a half months period. If shouldn't just. Maybe cell phone bill. >> Me, I'm fine with that. I think Alachua giving 125 bucks. There's the one we're looking at. I mean, I'm I'm okay with given money to help and cell phone like 100 that I don't want a cell phone bill is. But >> now it's very somewhat lax was doing 125 is probably what there's the but they're looking at is a standard. I'll be fine doing that. Instead of having to deal with that. >> Right. And other right by enough. And what hasn't number already, right? I think that would probably be a better compromise. >> van der of purchasing a whole nother phone. So I mean, Qaeda, meaning as we can with par with >> That's not >> You're okay the board yet. Nothing. Okay. All right. And the vehicle allowance. I'm good with top 600 because, yeah, the other superintendent negotiated higher than what we typically giving. Former superintendent. So I'm okay with that. My my thing is salary. Number 8 and I had a conversation MR. Chapman on the first draft. I just felt for not. I just felt that a little. Rich for me. And that's a term I use for him too. This is a very short-term contract. The former superintendent had a doctor. It. And I understand that MR. Chapman has a lot. Lot of leadership experience and I have. Great expectations for from him and the next. Couple of months or or so. I just. Problem with the 19 5. I don't know if anybody else to on only one a fine too. Don't know what else to recommend there >> number spreads wanted I don't pushback is a strong word. But just kind of my view on that. >> Right. That's all I want is everybody else's opinion? Yes. >> There is a I agree that. Tucker was on had a doctorate degree. There's and there's there's a difference in there academically. Her academic. Performance, history. But I think the equalizer is MR. Chavez been here for many years he does bring a benefit to us as interim and beyond because he knows everybody involved in the district and the community. And so that to me is company equalizer. Okay. So I support the 95 because Mr turned I said it's kind of are. Current market current law talk about so to speak. Okay. And so, know, and like I said, experience difference is what makes up difference to me just might >> I agree with with MR. Biden I thought, wow, I've been sticker shock on my We have with the institutional knowledge he has and the experience already working in district. I think it's worth it. It is going rule halfway >> If you look at the salary raise for us, people who suffer from 10 about right in the middle with one. 75 it one. 95 to 2.70 It's right in the middle. You know, I guess could say $1000 or something by knocking it down to 18 5. But just do a good job, screwed up all no. Motion. >> Both I move that he not screw it up. I want to clarify, are we going to stay with the SEPTEMBER 5th? Yeah. So that was I was going jump back that I I agree with others. I think 95 is is prudent. >> He's been making same decision to do everything that that price and it did as far as date goes. As as long as I'm okay with SEPTEMBER 5, as long as you. Believe that. In this with what we have here in the language we have your currently. Are we able to increase it whenever we want to? Whatever me days we want, right? I'm gonna get into some of the. The search and what some of these firms have said to me is I've asked them for help and that MAY help talk about the decision of having a date of SEPTEMBER 5th. But I'm ok, believe in a SEPTEMBER 5th unless we can't easily pushes back. To let's say AUGUST first or something to that effect. If if we needed to several months from now. >> But I would recommend. >> If you believe wise to put a little more time minute to go ahead and do that now and go ahead discuss why you think that. Rather than go back and amend chair chair. >> Okay. To make personally. Yeah, yes. I would say I think. >> From from. From discussions with. Some of the search firms on the timeline that. We're all discussing. That's Basically. Prior to school starting in AUGUST, having a superintendent. Most of the firms have come back and said that's a very aggressive time right? Not that it can't be done, but it's an aggressive timeline and they are. Reference would be to add more time to that to allow more time to be had for that. They said, look, this is is up to you all that decision on how you want to move forward. But that was pretty much. >> The the >> from for most of them. That was the discussion of the timeline so that's why date comes comes up. I would I would say if easy, just go ahead and do it now. And in the language, we obviously say it stops whenever we hire a new superintendent. >> And as you can, as you can automatically lives and their daughter Manically shortens. But it doesn't automatically extend, correct. So I would say I would say we if we can amend that just do this number out here to cover us. >> For as long as we possibly could throw this out there till like DECEMBER 24th 23rd or whatever the break it is and maybe I'm going too But I'm saying I'm saying that I'm not saying he's going to have that contract. I'm saying. If, in fact we go through this surge and we find somebody and someone says and fall in love with somebody like this is our next superintendent. And then they say. I got to be here till DECEMBER. Well, I got to be here till I got to give 30 days, 60 days in my contract to my to my place employment. We've got to be able to be flexible with that, right? If we found the right person, that's not here. I'm not saying that's going to happen. We have no clue. But but I do if MISTER Dyess saying it's easier for us to extend this right interim supplemental contract is easy, too. To shorten it because it says in the language, once you find a superintendent, it's over. It's easy for us to shorten it rather than extending it. I would say let us have an extended out worst case scenarios for hours and possibly be in And then once you hire will shorten up. That That makes sense. It does. So. I mean, I don't. That's what you're kind of thinking about 2 after obviously our discussion and a huge, especially with one of the the consultant as well. So >> when read the goal is to do it much sooner than that. Sure, it automatically ends when you when you hire new separate superintendent. So to put it a little extra, I mean, doesn't mean you're going that whole distance. You know, it's easier. You wouldn't have to have a meeting. To modify it. >> What do we have to have a good at all? That would be my question. Why do you need? >> She served as interim superintendent. Until the board. >> meant that date spot. Until the board dolls. The superintendent. >> I do a good attorneys. I mean, if you guys are, >> I just don't think we need to have a drop dead date. And here The literal date. But you know what? I mean? I just don't we need to have a date and >> We're It's really because employment contract really needs a term. Need to start and a finish, ok? You can modify that later. To just leave it completely open ended. I think would be. Create a scenario that legal. Interpretation if things didn't go well. It looks like. An expectation could be this could go in a very long time. So it's better to. Brackett it. Can always change it later. But contracts. Almost always have have a in day. Okay. Own. >> So I'm I'm support the idea of having an end date. I feel like also it gives the public a better view of, you know, that we are we are actually planning a mandate that we you're going to hire somebody were working expeditiously to do this and that we're not just going to kind drift around in take our time. So I think that having in Dayton there shows the public that we are, we anticipate that by this time we will have someone. And I agree with light NOVEMBER DECEMBER as well. Just in case whatever some of these, as you said, what are some of these, you know, time frame is a have to stay somewhere, give certain amount of notice. Then recovered and it will save us time from having come back in a minute later. I think alone. >> I don't think I don't think that's going to be till DECEMBER like I I don't I don't think that I think we're going to find somebody. I think it's going to go well, I'm not. Anticipating. It lasting. I do believe we can find somebody this summer and and then have to start the school year potentially. But it could be 30 day thing, right? You find somebody mid to late. JULY like, hey, need 30 days can start AUGUST 10th. I think that's and started the new Year. Obviously kids so. >> I think it's just to have pushed. And I would say, hey, we could do it like November one. But again, what if something would happen? And we got to come back here and say, hey, let's extend it in the 30 days. We can just do it now. I do not anticipate it being that long. No, I don't so maybe DECEMBER's not the right time. Maybe it's really if it's if it's. Night when we come back to school in JANUARY. More like what the 5th for 6th. I think it's the 5th or 6th And so I don't again, I don't anticipate it going that way. Just covering us in case it does. It doesn't hurt us to extend it. However, long we want. It. Just want to come back and do this again. Well, it it. >> It also it's interim contract. It's not intended to go on forever. And another point. Could you could say it forces that back into the board. And to date certain if you reach this time limit and you haven't. And anything you to have a permanent forces it back to the board. So if you're a minority vote. On what's going on in the future. You at least it comes back to the board. Let's say you don't like the situation. DECEMBER. But your minority, at least comes back to the board. I mean, test has to be dealt with. MAY get voted out. You MAY win again, but so it it forces it back to the board. If a decision hasn't been made by DECEMBER. So that's another reason that have in data. >> In DECEMBER doesn't have to be the date. I'm just be come NOVEMBER one. It can be whatever we want. But I don't know what we just got this thing from That's that's their right. I just know what we went For the former search. And we didn't do that. It read in take 6, 8 months to go agree process. That's why I'm like, why are we thinking about now? We're up to JANUARY. I just we're not meeting to go back in reiterate. I'm not saying the process is going to take that long. I'm saying leading the process last time were doing it through the end of the year, right. And we were doing it to start JULY one Start ii. These. These as we are interviewing. Top 3 superintendents who came to our final vote. Their district's new. They were doing this. So they knew they potentially could be picked if we do this in JULY. And you have you have a superintendent summer out a deputy whoever that we possibly look into. They MAY say, look, my contract says I can't leave a new start of the new school year, which is JULY one, right fiscal year. I can't leave for 30 days, 60 days semester. What I don't know. I'm just I have no clue right? Don't know our contracts have that with some of our deputies. I don't even know that language. Don't think they do, but I don't know how that plays operate. So I just want us to have a instead of having to go back in a burning AUGUST and say, hey, we had an AUGUST or SEPTEMBER 5th day, so can't come NOVEMBER one because you got to wait 60 days or whatever. Now we've got end. This contract. We can just do it now. And not have to have that other meeting to amend it. I do not anticipate it going. It's just the search going to do to DECEMBER. I don't anticipate necessarily having someone be DECEMBER, but I'm just covering the what ifs. What if we find some it says, hey, I can't. Can't come to x amount of days. This at least cover this. But if you all of the border, okay with it. Coming back in a meeting and having to amend it because something would come up. That's fine, too. Think is the right or wrong way. I just think if we extended out it covers So we've got to come back up and do. This like we would right? We would. Of Yeah, course we're going extend it another 60 days to have someone come in. We just went a process and I are so we're going to do that. In 2 months from now on just doing I'd rather get it done. Now. So I mean, a date is today could be what everyone I'm just going out. The first semester because I don't know what that contract. Maybe I don't anticipate that happening. So I'm just trying to get it covered. Now. So I mean, we had SEPTEMBER 5th, if if. Is there a motion to amend? Just say, did you pick there's no date on that date there's no date on here. So we don't really need a motion to amend this. >> The contract because it doesn't have the certain. That was the first draft he sent out. That's right. This is a blank now. There's one were filling in the day that you. >> In a minor, every student's arm certain teachers return on the second students return on the 6th. So would be JANUARY second, then that we would say this person start because that's the start of this. For staff. >> So the personally start JANUARY second. No. >> Only they couldn't leave their other spot. We could find someone that can start AUGUST 1st. I don't know. I would love to. I'd love fight and they can start AUGUST right away whenever we get them processed. I'm saying that MARCH at mean, if we if that's your next superintendent has the state semester or whatever we have the ability to say, look, leave be. MISTER Chapman is an intern and not to come back to this contracting. Amend it. It's already set a date now. I do not think it's going to take that long. I do. I think we're going to have that issue. But it's just a safety net and say we don't to come back and amend again. Whatever the government contracts over and over over again. >> every person I just think that. We talked about this at the special board meeting, we said it would be a very quick process, know, even talked about how scaled down. We didn't need to do all of that. >> I I had that I had the time. Ready for that. Ok, ok, it will talk about that. The next in the next section. All right. I do have what we discussed. I do think we're gonna be able to have interviews, but by. >> Mid-JULY, I do think we're going to. Have a decision by the time frame. Again, I don't I don't know that decision. Is going to be someone that says how want this job we want this person, but I can't leave my district till NOVEMBER one. Okay. Right. And then we got to decide that that fully do like person that much that we want to wait to NOVEMBER or do we not right. It will make that decision. But then if you get that is the case that allows us to continue with our interim. Throughout that process. That's only. Reason to have this is just in case there's a view to pretend But our timeline. What I discuss in the next section is the same as what will be discussed. And that's we want to change is aboard cassette. >> even even a to do with the time. All right. Okay. Even if that even on this section one. I mean, the date until whatever date. Nguyen comes I would even kind of almost a ad retain as the associate superintendent during a transition period. As well. No, I'm saying from the interim to help transition, the new superintendent. >> To return to employment with the district, his current position. Is the into that instead of saying current position say? >> As a associate superintendent during a transitional period. >> And then you're going to put dates in there. >> I don't want to put today because I don't know what that date is during a transitional period for up to 4 weeks that something like like, yeah, we could do make week period yet. Not right. Maybe date, right? >> mean, well, that is kind of his role as the 2. He's going to go back to being what is your official duty do? What was your official duty title? >> Executive Director of Administration. You know that's the end Lehman that's kind of your adviser during goal. Anyway. >> Yeah, I'm one of the one of 5 direct reports to superintendent. >> I mean that he's effectively when goes back to this position, be. Being adviser to the superintendent, you wanted to be an associate. For particular reason of it. Is there? >> I just trying to make sure the there was a transitional. Hand, sure period. I think you're worried you're not going to take vacation or 2 months. Are you MISTER Chapman? We're in a different. >> I'm not trying to be facetious and don't know. We're in a different kind of thing this time. Before we had. The former superintendent have retired. All right. Okay. Doctor Rice and didn't have time with her Wright several weeks before. Yes, it was limited because he because are why song was were deployed? Yeah. So it was very limited. I know it came down and Things I do know that but yeah, okay. I just wanted to throw that out there as well. You know, because I'm like okay. By the time we select somebody's foot them and I didn't want to just. Okay. We're done with you. Go back to your old job now. I wanted to have at least that grace period for a transitional. That's It's a good idea. >> I think but but it essentially be in that role. He was moving maybe to another building or to something that wasn't directly reporting to the superintendent be more inclined to go along with But he'll be right there his office will be right next to the new superintendent. So I think he'll still be in an advisory role he won't be off. Doing something else. He'll still be able to help a new guys. The transition yet. Agree. Think he's going anywhere. Is that? What are your thoughts on that? That's pretty stuff. We'll be right. There still be. >> Right. But when it goes back to District return employment with his district. Current position. So once the new superintendent hears. Is automatically going to go back to his original position. And pay increase will be cut. >> The end of back to normal time right? Ok, I was just trying to figure out a way to transition him back. Financially as well. Not just. Here you go. Thank you very much. For helping us to Precious and now. That's kind of where I was going with too. >> I think again, that could be something new superintendent can decide to write, oh, must reach they MAY be that didn't want to. Maybe they decide that. >> Okay. Out there. I guess it. Maybe discussed on >> Date wise. Are we ok with giving yourself some breathing room to say JANUARY second, 2026. Yes. On to person. We're not going to do that. But and that's not the search time. That's just this employment contract. >> But here's one of the thought on that is assuming that. We are going to find somebody that we like maybe we do. You know, maybe we the candidates big we go and we have to extend the search and I would I would rather. We really sure about somebody that and say, well, you really want someone in the seat by we get into the school year. Person looks okay. Let's give him a shot. You know, I'd rather just keep it in the seat that we find someone that we're all real comfort. The point is that will also give us some more time if we run through the search one time, we don't get really good candidate that we liked in. This gives us so the extra time to run the search again. Great. >> Okay. Okay. Well, that's another view didn't consider. So are the manatee, right? Right. So MR. Died JANUARY JANUARY, second, 2026. Got one. We're looking at so JANUARY seconds of Friday, correct? Is there do we you when there's already a board meeting, is there board meeting in the first week of JANUARY? We have a look that 26 you haven't set. 26 yet. >> at Tri-City on septa till NOVEMBER. >> I would assume looking at the calendar, I would assume. It's going to be. The 15, 13, 13, the 30's. The 27th would be probably wear. Wait 2 million and 4th. So you all think that it should be the 13th because that's a board vote. And that's also voting in the new Super 10. If that would be the case, I don't think that's going to case. But >> I think you want to avoid the first week of JANUARY, to that first many week, the first second thread. Sure. You know, if if you want to just move it like Tuesday, the 6th we've got special me that time for some weird reason we can. I think that makes more sense. I mean, it's that's we've notice like we're going to need right? >> All right. From SEPTEMBER to JANUARY. That's at least take day that. It makes sense. Yeah. Okay. >> JANUARY 6.26 We're good that certain cent. And that I think that was only real discussion points of the the cellphone edition. That date to be put in there. Everything else is good. I don't see any other speakers led up to speak. I would recommend summarizing the changes that were made to the agreement. So from from what was posted, what here right now in front of me changes are in paragraph naval number one employment. We have put it a date of JANUARY 6th, 2026 or to the board and salt on the person to serve as either internal or as superintendent. The salary in 3, a is 19, 5, 9, 2,500. That was blank. And this. Moving down to number 500, the vacation, Subsection b number 5 for vehicle allowance at $600 per month. The number 6 just below that. It is. I can restate Okay. Okay. Here have from the school board will reimburse MISTER Chapman for so you're from. >> such electronic devices are reasonably necessary for the execution. That should be of his duties corrected one version of this as superintendent up to $175 per month. Go. 75. Get work. >> And that was it. >> Every day it's big expense account was in there for 400. Everything else was in there in good a medication like MISTER Kenny said, isn't there everything else discussed in there is good. Other than those changes, correct? I think we're ready to vote on the motion to approve the contract MR. Chapman, as interim superintendent says, I don't see motion a second >> move to approve the. Amended that we already had. That apparently it's not yet maybe didn't so. Yeah. Perfect. Okay. So I moved to approve the interim superintendent contract as amended to include the things we've already discussed. You know, it a motion second, all second, we have a Second Amendment spray now. Granted, it should be up and running. To vote on that. All right. Not passes 5 to 0. I think you and thank you, MR. Di MR. Chapman. All right. So search first off, let me let this is based off of discussion with MR. Chapman and also from what we talked about last. Workshop. About the search in the timeline. So my thought I I meant it. For this out tonight. Completely forgot. So if you go on your calendars, unlike outlook. You have see the dates on this. So my thinking is we. The position will talk about the posting and that's your thing from fsb agent. We just got my thought process is on We post this on Monday, JUNE 2nd. For a time line that did what's up on the screen is last his last times but we post on JUNE 2nd. We let that run until JUNE. 20th should be 3 weeks that this would be open for for people to childline. What you're talking about. I'm not I I thought just discussing. >> Okay. Are going up. No document. Just discussion on dates. That's I'm saying. If you could get a visual on a calendar. You can look at your outlook, Iran to put this in a in word document game in the So here, JUNE 2nd, which is next week Monday, new would post. >> We'll put up on our website and we'll talk about where to post all that here in a second. So I just want to talk about timeline. The JUNE second, we open the posting up. Had that open for 3 weeks that run. So JUNE, 20th. To JUNE, 20th, nowhere applications just like we did last time as we get applications in from JUNE. 2nd to the 20th. Both on the website, we'll get him obviously every couple days. Whatever. So we'll be able to be evaluating looking at applicants before the 20th. After the 20th and it closes. The next board meeting is the 24th of JUNE. There's also a workshop scheduled before that. Okay. So the thought would be at that workshop of the 24th. To have List of the top 3 5. From all the applicants. Board member comes in. Here's our 3 years are 5. We discuss who we want to bring in. In the workshop on the 24th. We if we need to vote on that on the 24th of the meeting to bring those in, I don't think the actual voting item. But if it does, we've got that. We know the 24 to do that. So the 24th. We decide our top 3 to 5, you know, that range. We can discuss that more. Haven't we want? The 25th starting JUNE 25th? 26 27. We start calling them to schedule right there, interviews to come in and speak with us. The next week in JULY. 4th, I would say we don't do anything on JULY 4th. Asking to come in JULY 4th, right? So then my thought process would be JULY 7. To the 18th in that two-week period. Do the interviews for the candidates. We selected on the JUNE. 24. So it's like 7 to 18th would be interviews. >> 2 weeks of interviews is what you think. >> I'm just I'm just giving us and because a window a window, I'm not saying to take to eat. We could involve one day. I don't know. It's up to us to to. But I'm saying that's the window because JUNE 22nd. Is our next board meeting. We would then have that meeting to say we've done interviews. did with our top 3 top 5. Let's pick somebody 22nd. We would pick somebody and that meeting on the 22nd. That would give a week and a half the most 2 weeks to AUGUST. 1st, AUGUST that week to start right before school. If you go from there. So that was that that talk about, like of of a quick timeline, right? That's 2 months. >> That's the summer, right? So that timeline I spoke with. The consultants about. Told him that time. I wasn't Vo, you know, proven to But as we spoke about, do and we had a kind of agreement that we'd like win here beginning in school. So when I was speaking with those, especially the last ones. But to get a hold of one of the last ones to get back. But I got a new one it out. Tell you the 3 to 3 that were sent out. First off injured Messina was said, yes, we definitely do it. But we cannot give you the date and the time when you're looking for with the help because of their conference in JUNE. So >> the only real way. >> That they could help is if we push everything back which and pushes all that back right? Second person was that age? Who we had before come out to us and given proposal that was sent to you by this Cox and that out with the email, I think with the verbiage from the email that he sent to me did use and that would be his verbiage or do So the verbiage he said it was him. We're going do the same pricing as we did before. They had broken up into 3. If you if you look at at h y a they they had it into 3 different parts. He did not believe that. >> Trying to pull up. We're it is the proposal for a has engagement recruitment selection. They had 3 different sections Route 13,000 and peas. He said in the timeline he did not believe engagement would be needed to 2 years ago. We got a year for the community college. You're probably going to say said rep. So he would say he would eliminate engagement but everything else after that would follow. So bottom line, it was 53 for we were just attract 13,300 from that. And that's about the price you're going to get for. That writes about 40 green. That's h y a. Zeal which was sent. A new one was said this morning. By zeal. >> There's a new one for me. >> There was a new one in there. >> That I believe, Charlie, was that your sister? >> That met this guy. It was my sister. Well, I don't know if it was my sister I didn't realize that this is the gentleman my sister know yet because I think my sister told me his name. So have Jeff is obviously the founder and ceo. >> if you scroll down a little bit revised its read. I read Joel. I that okay. Yes. The revise it's not just warned Gotcha. Okay. So so board members you have to revise would know. That was Senate yet in the mail. So where >> So rooms revised voted. Prices. Like I can't I don't see that there's okay. The teens you see the price. So >> They have someone local here in Mesa County that does the no West Coast here. That gentleman is his name is DR. Jo Mishler right now. Is the Manatee County wrapped here obviously the packets there. Their dates they recommended. You can see, you know, it kind of starts doing some interviews with us in the next several days, come in and some stuff with us about interviewing process is and things like that. Obviously around you, followed my days and I gave a share. So, you know, this is his his floor mat is what? I was speaking with him about. So we obviously want to be exactly on these dates. But this is pretty darn close to what I just told you all about. Picking somebody by JULY 20nd date. Fees down at the bottom. 89. Yeah. Another option. >> The the one said to get back the other option. I reached out to Dr Vogel. And said, hey, this be a good feel? Like from injures standpoint, we could do all those things we did before because of the the conference conference. Started Vogel. Would you be willing like to yourself just be hired by us or something like that to come in and help? His suggestion was number one. He had some reservations about the timeline. He was one ad reservations as well about the timeline about how quickly. He said an option could be something the board wants to do. Instead of hiring a consultant like this that actually welcome do some of this stuff that is being said in zeal and in age he would be willing to if if we wanted to go this way of all applications, MR. Dies Office is that is that 3rd party? That brings everything in. That's a different thing to us. Right? Once it goes through the law firm and gets it to us, we pick out the people who we want as finalist. MISTER Dyess from and then higher. So would be that's tiring. It MR. Die from be hiring. DR. Vogel committed vet those votes. You know, if you pick 3, 4, 5, people, whatever that number is, we re whatever get to. Obviously his knowledge of around the state, the districts and things like that. You could come in that those those individuals make sure they're good. We have company would do the background check and things like that. Obviously we're gonna do that ourselves as well. But at least gives us somebody that. Going invest some of these folks from a local calling someone calling their join hey. How's the file on x, y z? No scary stuff. No crazy stuff that we MAY not seem to right it doesn't necessarily going that route going. It with MISTER Dies Office, organizing things doesn't give us someone. It's going to stand here at the podium and lead us like we had last time. So that's something the board once. We would go this direction. But I want to give all options that are out there on the table. For us said to discuss With that. But you ask you this. The next play. Everything cleared You guys kind of have it. And then obviously have comments questions and we can only answer. I don't have any answers right? I just have the information that I gave. We will have to come up with the answers. But hopefully I explained that correctly. We have the numbers in front of us and we kind of go from there. Telling that up in a sprint. >> So with the h of about 40 grand and Zealand 18, 9? That's a big difference. Annie. Having not read through all of this in detail for just getting it now, do you have any indication as to why the Sun first question as to why they're such a big difference between them. >> No, they were the heights. Highest one about 15. And that's when they were hot. So I. I don't I think that's just price. >> Okay. And the one we used last time was at beginning. It was up be a lot time. And of course, we a great last time. You know. It was like makeup, 65 six-month process. Remember process. >> and there was a lot more involved I think from then then this time I'm not saying we would make a dry week upright, cheaper, perhaps. I just said they give you what you here's what we're looking forward me. What you think. So I'm not saying they keep or but that there is a big difference. >> This also brings down to my next question. If we bring our top 3 to 5 on the 24th workshop, do we need to? This is for the attorneys can or can we just take that and then vote on that at the board meeting the same day? Do we not have to like notice anything? For sunshine? I mean, you know, the put it on to be honest. They've been on from. An applicant list of 25 people and we're getting down to 3. Does that to be actually vote voting on it? Yes, I think you should little that you. >> But no, there's no special. Regulations. It's just a board action occasionally make sure that we don't need to. For Sunshine State. These among these are the 25 applicants we have and we're going to vote on Will can I interject real quick? It's a night so we will advertise on the work. Got that. These are the names. Obviously we're going to have the names of all the applicants. We will have the final 3, what we can advertise those same names. On that meeting advertisement to say. There's going to be a vote on the top 3 to 5 out of these names right? >> So >> we definitely make sure that the public sees on the name. Jay, you mean yeah. Now now on on that actual 24th meeting will be more names in just a 3 or 5 everybody. But if you're watching the workshop see what we're going to England down, ok? So then next question, if we do our interviews. The 7 through the 18th. In that window. Obviously not those states chair when. When will the public have time to weigh in or was second to be public comment on the 22nd? Because I'm sure somebody will have an a thought that they're going to want to share with So the way we did it before was in workshops. They they were not a public comment right? So we would have. I mean, we can if you guys want to, can have a workshop. Just add a workshop in 2 before the 22nd. So we're not discussing at the meeting like let's discuss it at a workshop here is are we did our interviews. I'm just doing this type of 10 o'clock here. Right? We get all interviews done by the 17th. Of JULY. Let's have a workshop to decide who it is. Actually in a vote on the 22nd. On the 17th. They could be there. The interviews are going to be open to the public. So there to be able to sit on the interview is right watch Honestly. Watch on that screen so we could do a workshop. Before the 22nd meeting for us to talk about art Todd, the top 3 or 5. Here's what we think we would go with. And then come the 22nd meeting with person's name on there and actually vote. I would prefer to do because that way. Also doesn't extend the meeting. If we have like to be one you're going to be what the other person and we're having this whole. You know, we got work at some point. I would I would be second, I would to the board to go with a workshop as well. So that way we can. We can take the time to discuss than 100 to worry about everything else is on the agenda. Look at that. That was Sprint. >> that's basically what I was writing down here. If we could do a workshop. I mean, could have 5 to 25 applicants. The end often before MR. Kennedy, I think you followed last time. Re advertise. Everybody's. Resumes. What did on the website? So everyone knew who is applying live as they came in. It was updated. So any time an applicant. But then it went on we were getting feedback right away. >> Right. We could do that to this time as well. Right where we get feedback from public to a website. I think that's what we did last time. Yes, what site an email superintendent search. It means schools dot net. So if you're in the public, you see, hey, it's x, y z person. You write that yields a I love this person. I don't like person, whatever, whatever. And that's all Florida to us. That would be great. Yeah. And people. >> People were. >> e-mailing their comments about their likes and dislikes about about every candidate even when they got down to our last 3, we were getting like parasites. So but I would say, yeah, if we could do the interview process between the 7th and that. 17th. That's what I would say. And then do the workshops are on the final 3, 5, whatever I I would recommend 3. I think 5 is a lot that's my preference. Only one vote up here and didn't have it? Certain page just for the superintendent. Site like, okay. >> been a page that was on there with everything, right? We can do the same thing right it and ready to. >> And and I do it and nothing is one. I am not a dry pan. >> that price tag so you can scrap that idea. Right I. All agree with you and want to those brutally honest people sometimes. I don't know. The other from. >> The bill the deal. Okay. They they went from a significant amount to a very modest amount. Yeah, which is where the revised it down. The initial when he sent was before we spoke account. It was just initially mailed last out and then we spoke on the phone actually talk about our timeline to being what? >> you right? Okay. I into a nice white came down. Okay. >> I kind of like the idea Dr Vogel and going through with MISTER Die. Simply because Dr Vogel was very involved with the last search. So I think you ca knows. Expectations and we've given some 3 extended. Interim superintendent contract up to. I think that. That's going to give us time to really do the deep dive of And we should. I just don't know what. Kind of the he's gonna charge. I don't reading get into that. I don't. >> I did not. I did not ask again to that. I do. I mean, I don't know if you did this or die. >> To me my something that's not going to be with. >> To me, I think that is the best option. I just believe that that's less converse and I'm having, you know, other people all right. We can turning to work for us as well. And those process like you did before. And I spoke to him on, think every applicant before which I'll do again. So I would be more about Dr Vogel assisting better part of a fest ba decades. Warmer superintendent. He's got a lot of knowledge about that. So I think you would be a good option for us. One thing I did. >> Forget to mention it's not. In the revised feature. From zeal. But I think it is in the original one. >> and >> MR. Monday's the ceo we spoke. I reiterate this use to me several times when they get when they do work with. A district to pick a superintendent. That they don't like to just stop when it's done right. Think their goal is to make sure that the next step. And I think we all want this. Know we do because talked about it. The next step of training and getting involved with with the superintendent the board and really going through. I know we've got the 58 stuff, but I think some other stuff is what we all kind of talked about so so they do provide that as well. Don't know. You know, I've never used Don't worry. The deal does zeal they provide the after you hire. They provide that that training. >> in stuff that we would that we would probably like to do so that could have been. Part of that enrich original out. You kind of look at that. There is transitional support to ensure a transition. 12 months executive coach of the new superintendent, my selected member of the zeal. So there's a lot of stuff added zeal. Ys, full package, original one. But that price tag is not just like a rumor done. It's over and they're gonna provide 12 months of executive coaching have to governance training, retreat for the board. The new superintendent. So in that price, that original price are all those extra things that after. So just why on that? So I'm sure we could if we wanted to later on. I'm sure we go back to all a part of that stuff, right? If we wanted to, we didn't want to use I will say that. For for as far as a preference on who do use what use all those those sorts of things. I think that. Night from an advertising standpoint looking at the at this from a process of of the actual timeline like getting The Post ready and posting it. I think we've got that covered. You guys see the qualifications qualities that we used last time. A jury said you guys can use anything you want from what we did last time. It's not for Pride. Tory, you were you were your member, you know, you remember that sba, so you can use whatever you need to. So we just took off at pa's, you know, Logan put her own right. All right. So we can post that. She also said the actual what the post look like. I think Cox at that out. Everybody. What that post actually looks like or did look like. I think it said not schooled as you make. County Florida superintendents are to list kind stuff about us because obviously update that with the number students and things. But I think all that kind of looks good except for at the bottom. It says obviously contact names right? So I think we get rid of that and we feel in whoever we need to. So I think from a starting the search, I don't think we need a consultant to start. To open this up and just start. I think we've got everything we need to do that. I think where the where the Kuntz consultant come into play later on. I think security brought this up during the workshop is. The betting that process and at the I think his win. It's important to our staff just key. Do that. Do everything else, right? And I don't think we can do that. I think we can. City are together and discuss. Our top 3 top 5 and doing all that down did that last time is pretty simple. It'll be just You know, they were just there standing in front of us. Kind of walking it through it. You know, it was it was it was obviously us doing everything. I would be fine with doing it. MISTER Dies Office. Obviously everything to be put up public, knowledge, everything and then getting Vo at the end, nominate say, hey, can you help that these these folks, Excedrin I'm open to it he'll I I agree with you. Too expensive I'm open zeal as well. Have a feeling to postpone this, though, to start later. So that at 58 and give us their full attention like never before. I'm not. I think we need is a start. So yeah, those are I thought something you read that again. >> I just wanted Vera for Re. Have you re explain what Mr Die Staff is going to be handling. So for him, So the doctor Vogel believed. >> What happened? Is it that the staff it at? >> The law firm. >> Would be where these weird applications were sent. So it was it. Coming through the district. It's a 3rd party outside It's going so that there's there's a trail that shows x y z person. Said their resume in to not only that from, but also our address accent or so. There's a check and balance of like. To just opening the public can say, well, I know. So to apply. And we on the let it get there. And the Internet right? >> Got show that there's 2 that is a check and balance between what's being said to everywhere and that that sort of thing. Really, that's it until hiring Dr Vogel to come in. It doesn't want to come in and then everybody. So his staff won't have any other additional responsibilities with. Okay. That's why this one is a guy that you what every Dr Vogel spoke about this. You know that you have a different thought process. >> It's in a sterile. The a place. Outside the district. People would apply. The awkward be sending it to the district and the hr department or whoever. And we would be compiling information. In in format to be sent to the board and Dr Vogel. If you go that route, hire him. He would. He would be reviewing the applicants and vetting them so that he could. Give you his professional opinion. He thank the strengths and weaknesses of different candidates but also has offered that we could utilize the background check from that. Sba uses. So he has those contacts and we would run that on everybody to our office. >> Okay. So. That's a great way. Then so then that would then that information would then be also admitted to the board. Okay, incident Dr Vogel gets it from you everything goes through all of that. He would your consultant, our consultant. Okay. To have we talked money with him yet. I I don't my assumptions, my below us. 23. Going to be more. Yeah. If you love going to be doing is on island of it. >> But it won't. Be as much either right, zeal shows a review board interviews. Talk about this about that or whatever. >> That we would be getting that level. So I don't I don't. It's going to be less than magic be less than what the proposal. Thank you. Like Doctor Vogel. Thanks. Wish a live report. No, no. Okay. I'm going French. Maybe. Know, that's okay. Program last comment on this amendment. I just ask everybody to take a look at your calendar because I'm going to suggest some slight tweaks to the proposed timeline as presented by our chair few minutes ago. What you guys are doing where you guys are open your counters. I just want to share a couple thoughts on. We did receive like the f s p a full proposal. I really appreciated diverse channels through which we could advertising recruit candidates. I thought that was the strength there. It's why I thought there due diligence was very well, a particular t