Community Public Meeting - Smokez BBQ

Community Public Meeting - Smokez BBQ — Mar 30, 2021 - 6:54 PM

good evening, everyone. So thank you for coming. >> I am going to be giving a brief introduction and just a brief welcoming and give you basically the purpose of the meeting today's meeting and and I'll go ahead and afterwards introduce the business owners so that they can do their presentation. So again, this is a community meeting today's March 30th is seven or six and we're starting this is a meeting that was we're facilitating to be able to discuss an operating agreement with the business by the neighbors smokes and we have been privy to many different questions and concerns from the neighborhood and the residents around and we'd like to be able to discuss this in an open forum, be able to discuss an operating agreement that the village helped put together in order to be able to to coexist and come up with something that's good for everyone. So on that note, I'd like to welcome the business owners mark monokini. He's going to be giving a presentation and shortly thereafter and previously to that I think the village attorney wanted to give a quick update john, this is just very quick. This is not a council meeting. This is just the meeting with the residents and the business owners even though there will be perhaps more than just one council person here, the council will not be participating. They will just be observing. So they're not going to receive or answer any questions. Neither will I. And the managers here also. So again, it's just a public meeting for you guys to deal with the issue and the village staff is just here to observe. Thanks. >> thank you. On that note then, gloria, if you can please play the first presentation mark. >> do you need. Do you need someone to hold piotrek I just turn around right? Yes, just right here. You're going to be just me. I think I got it on howzit. Here we go. Are we good? So my name is mark monokini. I came to miami and 1960 nine and grew up in miami attended epiphanny elementary school and in first grade I met my business partner patriae so we've known each other since first grade grew up together. I went to high school together and have interacted ever since I watched pat go through many different walks of life until he discovered passion for barbecue. That was about 10 years ago and I watched him turn into a master and after tasting his barbecue for several years I said look, it's too good just to keep to ourselves. We have to allow the public to enjoy themselves. But this great barbecue so we always knew and I always knew that there was a tremendous lot that right here in palm bay that I've been going to for 30 years when I went there for snowdon's and the what they're calling it golf club they're in for what a bar that was anyways all color. So we were going there for many ,many years. I knew of the landowner and so after talking with pat we said let's approach the landowner. So we did fortunate enough to be able to have an agreement with our cost. The landowner. And so but the first thing we did was call palmetto bay and have a meeting with maria panetta and I have to tell you from day one the village of palm bay has been very welcoming, very you know, very able to approach and to be able to discuss the business idea. It didn't start out the way it is now. We did a test market and we opened up as a kind of a pop restaurant for about three months. And the lines you think the lines are long now and they were going up the street and we say wait a minute, we have something here. So we decided to shut down and we came back to the city and said we would like to pursue a real business, a business incorporation of a business full fledged restaurant on the site. We went and had many discussions with maria and staff about what it would be, what would be required for us to accomplish that. So anyone who's ever started a restaurant oh God, don't let me do it again term state of florida your water sewer for fire not to mention so we started with a dirt lot and basically several dirty dirt line. Yes. So a lot of money later and about ten months later we're able to open and again the city has been very cordial. Whenever we had questions we come in we would work with maria on making sure that we were complying with everything that I was asked of us to do and so we were able to get a tco to open as we began to grow . We as everyone knows have gone there. The lines still go out to the street sometimes and we have had a lot of success and we want to thank pig nation or we say smoke's nation now for the support the the the the community of the palmetto bay has been so supportive of this restaurant that we can't be, you know, happy enough, happy, more happy than to have the people supporting us. So I guess with great success also comes some issues and so maria and I have been meeting since the teko where she has been given us an operating agreement based on a lot of things that we need to cover. And so I like to address some of those tonight with powerpoint so if we can start the powerpoint ok, so the topics of discussion tonight and then maybe maria if you want we can talk about the other things regarding the operating agreement so the first one I think is what people brought to our attention is the noise we have now instituted an internal policy. Did you go to the next slide please? Ok, so that the noise but represented by two sources which is the music and the loud speaker so the next page please . It's so smoked barbecue and created an internal policy to ensure that all music including live entertainment will not exceed porthmadog page regulation of 70 decibels. We know that on some nights that we have exceeded that and we receive citations and we paid for them. We recognize that we need to improve in this area and all you have is manpads verbal commitment to you that we're not going to let it happen again. We're not going to allow entertainment to come in there that exceeds the seventy decibel level. We know it's a big concern and we have instituted that policy and it will be enforced. We take that very seriously and we apologize to the neighbors for the excessive noise over the past few months making sure we've installed numerous decibel meters all over the entire site including on the other side where the residential is. So basically we can monitor at all times and we don't have to discrepant about what's going on and how high it is and how it is. We're monitoring the real time . so that's one of the things that we're doing. We're putting technology in there. We're also going to put sound screen into the back that are going to reflect the sound from the residential areas. So that's a big thing right there too. And you know, maybe the neighbors are not satisfied with the fact that we're going to continue live music but as long as we stay within the regulations are seventy that's polls. We have the right to play loud music there as mark says. And you know, we don't want to push any the envelope our bands are down by 10 P.M. They start at six P.M. We're not loud after that. I'm not the bar in cutler bay that everybody knows about till 2:00 A.M. I don't push everything out and this is a family place that's basically where it is like slide so the loudspeaker and it's come to our attention that the loud speaker is being heard by the neighbors in the back. So what we have decided to do is to pass to the process of now is undertaking that current post point of sale to install a restaurant paging system. It consists of coaster like device that you'll see on the second page. So people are very familiar with this type of technology. Get your order, you get a coaster and when you read your orders ready it buzzes and lights up. so then you go to the kitchen and get your food. So given give us you know we turn to page there. I think that by by the end of April we will have the system installed and no one will ever hear the loudspeaker going out on the back system. Also we have a very high end point of sale system that's toast now a lot of people aren't integrated with they don't understand it and our employees are cashiers. All of our employees are being trained on it to let them know that when you get your order your order is going to be pushed through to your phone. There's going to be no sound. You have to look at your phone and realize your phones or your orders ready and come to the kitchen. So we understand that that broadcast is out there and that's only the subsequent when the band's playing but we're going to get rid of that. So my guest mark said will integrate whatever possible technology we possibly can to make it as quiet as possible. Ok, smoke I know it's ironic that our name is smokes but we intend obviously to smoke out the neighborhood that that's not our intention. We didn't realize that they would cause an issue with smoke with the neighbors. They smoke is certainly unintentional and I know that's not the answer that people are looking for but at least we're have looked into the technology ,not looked into it. We are in the process of designing a system and you can see from the diagram right there this is a scrubber. This will be installed on all three of our smokers which will significantly cygnet only reduce the amount of smoke to the neighborhood it's being designed and being developed. We will have these submitting for permitting by April 15th. That's where that's where we are guaranteed the city and we're hoping to have approval by April 30th which is our deadline as mark said before, these systems already in place I don't know if you all know but austin, texas has the same thing that they have to deal with with smoke on certain places so this is in texas. You can understand that we have to deal with certain technologies to be be able to suffice to one or two blocks that have an old smoke overflow . I'm sure there's a lot of different smells that come out of that swamp grass over by the dering will probably smell a lot sweeter than that but the thing about it is we're trying to do everything we possibly can including spanning probably fifteen hundred dollars per smoke scrubber to get this stuff done. So this is how deep we are in to making this a community facility and a family facility . That's basically the way it works this isn't a bar. This is in a restaurant. This is a destiny. You should be proud about it. This is palmetto bay's it's nobody else's mark and I grew up here and this is where we wanted to put it. We could have put it anywhere we wanted to but we decided to put it here with the grace of our landlord and everybody else that has assisted so in a nutshell, basically what it comes down to is we're doing everything possible to get this stuff done. That's it. Ok, ok. Parking is one the last issue that we're going to talk about before we we talk about the other thing is that we're getting in the operating agreement so we better do it agreement with a daring us stay for additional parking and our manager radim office that was just instituted I guess a week ago or so and that's going to take care of the overflow from our parking lot that's what palmetto bay has recommended us to do. They gave us a designated number of spaces that they were they suggest did suggest that they they mandated for us to do and we did that we paid twenty seven hundred dollars this month just for twenty three parking spaces. So we're doing whatever we can financially to be able to address the issues that have come to our attention so as far as the operating agreement we've that we've signed to make it into that mauriac and talked about it I mean real quick mark in the parking side we've done more than that. We've actually hired three more parking attendants to manage all the parking on the outside technically according to palmetto bay I'm allowed to park or we're allowed to park on the ease on the side of the road. Now that becomes an obstruction when you've got too many people there. So basically we've offset that parking going into during and around the other side now we can go further and I might even higher. We might even hire a golf cart to drive people back and forth from there. There's no budget on taking care this stuff it basically is it's become an institution. Ok, this place is just like snowdon's. It's just like cutler and it's been the same way since nineteen forty eight the residence the place has been used as a restaurant, a speakeasy, a bordello also the place to build the deering estate it's should be official historical site and all we did was try to make something a lot of that was for the community that's basically all this is I'm not and I are looking to make a million dollars. That's we're not we're not looking for that. We're looking for someplace to come hang out and when you walk inside on a sunday or saturday you're going to see fifty kids playing soccer and a side yard over there. That's all I got to say really when it comes and or not cause are not trying to cause trouble . I mean you know, maria said we want a community meeting. People might be shaking their heads saying oh they're not going to do this. they're not going to do that. They're just talking you know we're here, you know, on our own goodwill to me with the neighbors to try to come up with a solution. It might not be a perfect solution but what do you want? You want to shut down that why you guys are here? Well, when it comes down to it ,you've got about three or four restaurants that are pumping smoke out of there and I'm not going to name any because they're my friends. So if you're going to go after everyone then we're going to go after us too. So essentially what it comes down to is we become successful and when you move next to a commercial lot you have a problem with it and that's basically what it comes up to it. And I understand those people that are on the back side 167 I feel for them I'm not going to be a party all night long. No way it's not going to happen . I'm going to go over there, tell those people look, you got to understand if you have a concern walk over to me and tell me this stuff's too loud or something's going on. I mean with all the meetings that we have as far as I'm concerned, we're not we're not south beach. I just leave it that this is not south beach. This was built for you all. So just real quick, some of the other additions that the operating agreement is that we signed basically we have to install parking lot lighting. we just spent we're going to spend fifteen thousand dollars to put lights in the parking lot. We're going to spend another ten thousand dollars to fix the parking lot itself. It's after the five hundred thousand that we've already put into it and you know at one point at some point, you know we're here we we we talked to the city, we talked to maria, we have an agreement and we're going to make good by the agreement and and do everything that we promised. I hope it satisfies the neighbors if if it doesn't, we're going to do our best to do that. But again, if you guys are here to shut us down, well then it's going to be a it's going to be a long it's not going to be anything. What happened is this is going to move and you get to be really sad when it does in that space. You know, that's that's all I'm not I'm not going to pull any punches and I'm going to say something working my entire life off for this for the last twenty years of my life to make this happen. Ok, and if people don't want it to say so, I'll move it somewhere else because I feel this strongly for it and my customers feel this strongly for it. Mark feels as strongly for him and I have been together since we were six years old. We grew up together 150 he grew up right down the road from me and we believe in this community and this is why we're doing it. That's it long and short. Ok, maria. So we're ready to take the dagger so I apologize. I someone mentioned that I did not introduce myself. My name is maria pineda and I'm the director for community and economic development for the village of palmetto bay. And as mark says, I have been working with him along side of our village attorney and outside attorney as well to be able to come up with a solution there will be able to to solidify and address the problems and the issues. And not only that, I I did forget to mention that we have a several public comments by form that our village clerk is going to be reading you you will also have a chance to speak I believe it's a one minute one minute that you have availability be able to speak for the people that are in the back. You will be able to rotate as the as a speakers and their one minute inside the chambers. We can begin if you like unless manager you have some input. Ok, we can begin and I think the most productive way of conducting this is once the public speaks we have everybody's input then we can come back exactly and address that and then we can judge based on what the operating agreement includes, what are the terms and time timelines for that. So on that note, I will give the mic up to missy post-test. Good evening. the public comments submitted by 4pm will be read into the record in the order they were received and will adhere to the one time limit any and all public comments that were that were received by 4pm after seven P.M. Of tonight's community workshop will remain part of the record. James peirsol one seven two two five sw eighty third court palmetto regarding the community meeting regarding pink floyd restaurant I am in support of pink floyd being able to continue operations under previously agreed permit's the site for pink floyd. Barbecue has been an active restaurant site for over 40 years. It is nothing new for the old cottler in the operated there in the 1960s. 70s was very very busy, very active and had less pakhi the business owners have invested money to create this business and have obtained every required permit and complied with every court compliance demand by the village. You can't change the rules after the fact noise their event are no different than the music event at dering or the lotto. Whatever you impose on pink floyd you must compose on those locations the remaining comments of this form will remain part of the record for espersen one seven two two zero sw eighty fourth avenue palmetto bay the property use agreement should be pretty cut and dry if light bands and noise ordinance are part of the deal I would hate to live next door to it of particular concern to me is the intermingling of cars, golf cart and alcohol 168 street is not illegal street four golf carts whether they be street legal or not to be driving on look it up much less with coolers, open containers and drinking and driving. Combine this with the impaired judgment the dark of the night and palmetto bay will soon have another golf cart fatality in its hands. I suggested regular patrol of the area to ensure safety. Pomerol needs a place like this where people can gather and have fun without risking life and limb. Stacey koffman one four two four or five sw sixty eighth avenue it'll be pink floyd restaurant should be able to operate as long as they thoroughly addressed a severe smoke smell and noise degradation that has been inflicting on the surrounding homes. John patterson Jr. One seven three zero five southwest one sixty six street palmetto bay the loud music from best barbecue doing business are smokes also known as pink floyd barbecue is a major public nuisance that intrudes our quiet enjoyment of our home betty ammos righetti eighty two zero six sw one seventy first terrace palmetto bay I do not understand why this local small business is being hassled in such a manner. They have jump through hoops to do everything that all the authorities have wanted done. Then more hoops are thrown in their way. They have totally operated within the confines of the operating agreement. Please let them continue to operate but in peace. Scott baxter one six six four five southwest seventh avenue pinecrest, florida. Good evening. Just a quick note of support for pat and mark. They have transformed the former oca site from a dust bowl into a wonderful family friendly destination and asset not only to village of palmetto bay but to all the surrounding communities as well. I would hope that the village can and does recognize their contribution to the community and move to support them in any and all manner possible. Dara borse eighty seven twenty sw one fifty terrace palmetto bay smoked barbecue located at 168 street just east of the road is a special unique outdoor venue which is family friendly and the barbecue is outstanding. Patrick and the employees are like family and are hardworking hardworking folks. The sacrifices the make so that pomerol being resident in the surrounding communities can enjoy this business. Kerry outman seven three eight zero sw one sixty six street palmetto bay regarding the operating agreement with pink floyd I would like to ask what is being done to mitigate the noise levels from the live music. We were able to hear the music inside our home from several blocks ways with frequency this past saturday the twenty seventh of March was an example we were excited to welcome pink floyd to the neighborhood but we are frustrated that our outdoor space has become unusable on multiple nights each month due to the noise level we recently upgraded our back patio area but can't enjoy our outside peacefully while competing with an outdoor concert venue. We would be amenable to this on occasion but to hear this level of noise on a regular basis in a residential area is upsetting if the noise level is on forceable is there a compromise that can be made regarding the number of nights per month when life music occurs? Jessica snyder forty six twenty sw one sixty third path palmetto bay community public meeting as residents of miami we think that this place is great. It is an outdoor space where we can enjoy good food in a very safe atmosphere. It is a way to connect with each other and spend a weekend . We visit here for lunch or dinner after walking deering estate or biking along or cutler. We meet many other families each weekend that do the same. We have been every weekend since we found this place and we love it. We respectfully request that the operating agreement be renewed or made permanent. No additional public comments exist at this time and any and all forms that were received after seven pm of tonight's community workshop will remain part of the record. Thank you. >> so now will be taking public comments if we can do this in an orderly fashion that would be amazing. Every time you come up here and you get the mike please grab a wipe and clean the mike right after that would be great. So on that note, if you can please sign up and that way your you have your one minute and please state your name for the record and your address . I just mean if you didn't register I'll leave that one for test. Well guys it was paul hedrick's live on the outskirts pomerol bay at ninety two hundred sw one forty seventh street. I've known peyton's family over thirty years now and my dad coach pat and baseball in pomerol and the times that we've spent as a community and friends and coming together of being commodore columbus ransom but all of us coming together as a community and I think that's what this is really is about tonight is about community. There's people that I haven't seen in years that hey, it's great saturday sunday let's go out to pink floyd. Let's sit around and and just reminisce. We talk about old baseball days I played at florida state. I play pomerol and just the times that I've spent with with the surrounding community and and pat what he's done over the years and he's always been good hearted. >> he wants to bring people together, bring a family. You'll always see him there. He's a guy who who fights for our community and I guess I'm going to feel that. But best food, best people sorry for the surr