City Council Meeting: March 6, 2023

present of materials. Will you lead us in the pledge of allegiance? Mr pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under indivisible with liberty and justice for all. So we do have a couple of ceremonial matters including some we'll start with some announcements on the part of the city manager. Thank you mayor and it's my pleasure today to let you know and let the public know that I have made two appointments of people to serve in the assistant city manager position and they are both sitting to my left to the right of the audience. Let me start first with brenda harvey williams who if you want to raise your hand real quick so people can see you I've had the pleasure of working with brenda for the past six months in her capacity as the director of parks recreation community services the cut to the chase I know it's going to be all I've been waiting for a long time but brenda came to us as an intern at this in 1987. So over the last 35 years she spent time in various departments holding various different positions and you know, I'm very lucky to have her extraordinary experience as part of the team in my office also announcing that I have appointed david reyes who is sitting here if he can raise his hand. David, join city here about twelve years ago prior to that he was serving in a number of other cities all in the planning field. He is a true expert in the land use area and has you know, I've gotten to work with in the last six months as the acting assistant city attorney. So I've gotten to know him very well and his vast experience in land use is going to be such an invaluable tool for us as we move forward especially with 710 hub and some other areas. So with that I thought I'd just ask to say one quick sentence or two each to introduce themselves to the council to the public. Thank you MR. City manager. It is really an honor and a pleasure to be here this evening and I'd like to publicly thank you for this opportunity to continue to serve pasadena at this next level and council member lione was doing some math over here and I told him I started working here when I was two. That's my story and I'm sticking to it but looking forward very much to stepping into this new role. So thank you but also like to thank city manager marquez for the opportunity to continue serving the residents of the city. I look forward to all the challenges that lie ahead with respect to all of the work that we have to do together. Thank you. Thanks. And I'll just note that MR. Reyes will get rid of the acting in his name on MARCH 13th so their appointments will officially take place next monday. thank you. Thank you and congratulations to both of you for and thank you for taking the next step in serving our city. And I'd also like to thank all of our department directors and all the city staff for helping us through what's been a very, very challenging time. But I think we're in a good place and look forward to your work on behalf of residents of pasadena and thank you. Ok with that I'd say welcome but we're not calling it a comeback. You've been here like the like the song goes with that. I'd like to turn to MR. Carmona to make a presentation. Good evening, mayor. Our members of the city council, manuel carmona, acting director of public health tonight. I appreciate the opportunity to recognize an employee who's been with the health department and retired last year due to covid. There's so many employees that we did not get a chance to say goodbye to but this is an opportunity to recognize someone who has been employed with the city for eight years. I'm so glad that we can bring marija tacho garcia back to recognize her contributions to the city of pasadena. She was hired in MAY of 2004 and served as a program coordinator for nutrition and physical activity program. Mary's led efforts to promote fruit and vegetable consumption and physical activity with the goal of preventing obesity and other chronic diseases in our community. She taught countless pre nutrition education classes and workshops in schools, community centers and afterschool programs and I excuse me in 2012 mary was the driving force behind the city of pasadena healthy meetings manual which established requirements for use of city funds to provide employees healthier snack options much to the chagrin of local donut and pastry shops. She also led the launch of the healthy retail food program in 2015 which focused on improving healthy food access in west pasadena, small markets and corner stores and worked in collaboration with the county's renew program to implement vending and procurement policy for the city of pasadena. Mary was also involved in various planning committees in the city, including the majority salumi me to be the in the latino heritage parade in twenty twenty she was activated by the department to become a contact racer. In this role mary helped track the spread of covid-19 and connect people at risk with the resources they needed to safely quarantine and isolate mary continue this contact tracing role until her retirement in MARCH of twenty twenty two. Over the years mary's work across the community made her recognize the ambassador of health. She didn't simply provide health education she lived it through her example. She had motivated staff and community members alike. She had a simple message you don't need to be perfect, just be better that is still universal message I believe we can stand behind today on behalf of the pasadena public health department, I want to thank mary for 18 years of service and wish her all the best in retirement. Thank you, mary. Thank you for your for your service to residents of passing if you'd like to say a few words, I'm happy to recognize you. Oh, thank you, MR. Mayor. I just wanted to thank you because you were our original champion for a lot of the procurement policy that the procurement policy that we went through and that you've always been so supportive as well as as a council member hampton and john kennedy MAY rest in peace between all of between you and the community members that I worked with. I appreciate all your support and help during that time and I I I appreciate this. I appreciate your time and the effort that you that you put through this truly from the bottom of my heart. Well, thank you and thank you for your service and I certainly have always appreciated your very hands on service and presence in the community. Thank so much MR. Asuda. I'm mary. I want to say a few words as well. I want to thank you for all that your work that you do. I mean I do see mary and her husband well I'm doing my walk in upper hastings' so thank you for everything that you do and congratulations. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. I absolutely don't mind I I don't even know you're retiring at all and so I'm really kind of sad about this situation now like mary is it's funny I just ask you shout about you a couple of days ago I was like you know it's been covid we'll wait to reach out to mary again but I am I just want to say that since I was a school board member to come in the city council you are one of the people that shine the brightest to me as someone who really, really cares and loves this community. Not only do you want their mental health to be great, you want their physical health and you want them to eat right. And so because of those things I was eating pancakes like 14 times a week. I've I've cut that down to seven times a week. So thank you mary for helping me unclog our arteries with all the butter that I eat. But I love mary and I just just want to let you know I'm very grateful for you and your husband right behind you. Please tell them thank you so much for sharing your wife with our city and our community for so many years and I know that you guys will still be extremely engaged and active because I'm very active in the community. I appreciate whatever you need. I still live here. I love pasadena and we're here so but thank you so much. Thank you. thank you. Appreciate it. We've all witnessed MR. Hampton go from three desserts at council dinners to two. So he's he's making progress man thank you marion and congratulations and see another I see a lot of retirees but I certainly want to recognize veronica jones council member veronica jones from the city of altadena. Next we will move on and I'm asking this is not is good news. We recently lost a pillar in our community. Bill galloway, a long time resident and I'm going to ask the council to adjourn in memory of bill galloway. Bill galloway was born in mount oklahoma in 1941 where his family owned and operated an animal farm. He rode a horse to school, a shared classroom kindergarten through ninth grade is where he attended school after his parents relocated the family to pasadena in 1955. Bill attended john miller high school in pasadena city college. He first started work as a draftsman and structural engineer and purchased his first investment property at the age of 19 in 1968 he married brenda and together they founded sumit enterprises ,which invests in residential and commercial properties. Well known for their local and national philanthropy, the galloway's established an endowment for education at the pasadena community foundation and we're honored at parsons city college in recognition of their long standing support, bill served on a variety of boards including the pcc foundation passingly museum of california art pasta development corporation and the smithsonian national board of directors. He was honored by the passing museum of history with contemporary history maker with a contemporary history maker award and received a community leader award for his work with the passing naacp believed that education was the great equalizer and donated generously to his alma mater passed the city college having endowed the sculpture garden and plaza now known as the galloway plaza at pcc and supported the pcc center for the arts bill galloway. For all of us who had the honor and privilege of knowing him and calling him our friend will truly be missed. Brenda be assured that our hearts are with you brenda and your family and I will pass on any information related to services for our friend bill galloway as I receive them. But I can I can only say to those of you who didn't know bill galloway that pessina has truly lost a local champion and a very, very strong and dependable pillar of this community. And so I'll ask the council to adjourn. I'm asking the council to adjourn and memory of bill galloway. Mr hampton, did you owe america if I could just echo your comments to galloway who have lived in recent years in my district and I think we all know that they are as you put it so eloquently, pillars of this community extremely wise, compassionate, committed. It was hard to go to an event in pasadena for the nonprofit community or the education arena without seeing the galleries and it was always a pleasure to do so. I certainly second your motion I'm sure you have seven seconds here and extend our heartfelt condolences to brenda and the extended family. I did that immediately upon learning of bill's passing I reached out to and expressed my personal condolences but also condolences on behalf of the entire city council staff and all residents of pasadena. And so brant communicated to me that you'll pass along service information and I'll ensure that each member of the city council receives that as well. MR. Hampton, as you mentioned, a pillar of our community, another loss we've it's sad when we come to council and we have to talk about these individuals that have built this community and makes it what it is I remember my first time figuring out what the definition of philanthropist was and that was probably the eighth grade and bill bell bill galloway was one of the people that came to my mind as a local philanthropist, as someone who cares so deeply about the community that they were willing to invest in and not only invest in it but continue to pour into it. The galloway family has on that and I just want to let brenda and the whole family know that I will be lifting them up through prayer, positive thoughts and bill will always be with us because of every life that he has touched even if they haven't met him or shared a conversation with him, he will definitely be here with us. And I just want to say that he has helped so many people in political office get into office including my colleague john kennedy, you know, and ailing yourself. So I actually didn't actually ask I didn't ask for it but I would have loved what I know. But on a more serious note, he's he's just been an amazing individual and owns some properties that have helped a lot of our people people throughout this community get housing. So thank you, bill, for everything you've done and the galloway family tell you that. Yeah. Thank you. Ok, so with that we'll move into our kitchen oh I'm sorry. Public comment for matters not on the yes we have for speaker cards on matters not on the agenda. First speaker is alan shapefile by reya westermann then jill shook then heavenly huze so alan shey welcome. Afternoon mr cordeaux and city council members mr sheikh and you just pull the microphone a little bit towards you. Thank you. Is that better? That's better. All right. good afternoon, said morgado and city council members as I have shared with you endlessly the importance of making adjustments within our city of assembly agenda ice technology and the use of technology and how to make sure that our technology is holding our voted officers responsible. This is what the community wants to hear or see take place especially in the wake of the anthony mclean shooting five cameras, five different cameras captured that shooting in each of those cameras dispute everything that was reported by pasadena police and supported by chief closson and his report . It makes no sense and the citizens are paying this expensive costs for technology that is not doing what it was intended to do. So I come before this city council to pay attention to a need for change. We need to change the charter, bring forth a standard of how our technology is working and be an effective so that our leaders can show that they're keeping up with our technology and the effects of it. Thank you. Thank you MR. Shue. I would just like to follow up on the comments to mr a comment about opening up the charter again last week we talked about having putting together a committee to discuss charter amendments that would be the great place for mr allen to go to those meetings or have that as part of our discussion when we come back then also for the technology piece in a public safety meeting, I would like to see a jenise update on where we are. We just recently renewed the contract I believe in the beginning of the pandemic. Mayor was a twenty two point maybe twenty one. We renewed the contract with exxon and during that renewal we talked about having a device that once any officer deploys their service arm that I mean service I've been that all officers in the area, the body my cameras turn on I would like to know where we're at with that. I haven't heard back of that has been if that's been implemented and then also there was a buffering piece so those would be the comments for that public safety meeting and then I think at an update hopefully on APRIL city attorney will have an update about the oh I ah yes. I think I indicated an updated revised time frame. It could be APRIL but it could be MAY our independent of twenty three of this year. Ok, I just want to know just you know it could be twenty four could be days notice it was there by the reason is because this happened almost two years ago right. So thank you and we'll get updates on the technology. Thank you. Ok no syariah been filed by josh or by heavenly use. Mr westman welcome. Hello by my urijah I'm actually new to pasadena. I just moved here. Welcome. I was actually just doing that as a joke and then you guys actually clapped. I am so so I'm actually from canada I'm canadian and it was really weird to do the pledge of allegiance a little bit so but this is I'm a little bit throwback with how positive and how happy everyone is here in city council. I was I was back that I was I was mad because my catholic advertisement stolen four times since moving here and now I'm not mad about anymore. So tyron tyrone, you're hilarious. You're amazing. It's just great to be here. My name is uriah. I'm a white cis male so 790 in the seventh century my name would have been psoriasis. So one thing I'm kind of hoping is I want to I'm a poker player and I have to drive forty minutes to go five miles so I just wonder if we could bring a casino to pasadena. I know it's right now we're actually kind of sitting at a blackjack table right now so we're kind of already getting towards that and my my therapist has kind of been telling me I got to deal with the problems I'm dealt. So that's why I learned how the card count and I was volunteering at the animal shelter and then I got in trouble. I got fired because I was trying to teach the dogs to play poker the order up my my food service is at my door that's right over there. Thank you sir. I always have my time. I'm so sorry I ran away. thank you. Thank you. Oh yeah I would say no to the casino and someone perhaps staff could refer them to the house and you can stick it's open again. Thank you for your comments sir. Also the catalytic converter attaching too because that's that's a thank you for bringing that up. Yeah. If we can actually the catalytic converter issues it's very, very serious issue throughout the region and maybe we can look into that as well. I'd like to have an update from the police department how bad it is here in pasadena. I know that other parts of the region has been very, very bad. Well, mayor, we just adopted carbon free by 2030. You know, electric vehicles do not have catalytic converters. So that's one way you're going to avoid that. I don't know about theft. I don't know that softens for people who have been victims of cadillac and worth that because they run upwards of 800 to twelve times, you know. Yeah, well ok. Joe next followed by heavenly use goodness I don't know how I'm to follow that but I I do want to say thank you for your comment about the zero emission . I think that's what I the point I'm making tonight and thank you for convincing as of FEBRUARY twenty eight it's impossible for the city and as of APRIL 28th of this year residents cannot be using the leaf blowers that are gas powered. And so that's excellent policy and I'm very grateful for it. I have been looking through all of the different opportunities for those that are serving our homes by cleaning our yards any type of rebates they might get to be able to purchase a an electric blower and I can't find it. I have found other parts of california where it's accessible. I can't find anything for this area and so that's a concern to me. It feels like it's a perhaps could be on the edge of racism by by saying that, you know, we want our our brown neighbors who are cleaning our yards to somehow come up with the money to buy these electric leaf blowers and you know, on the backs of their typically lower income status. So I just wanted to bring that up. I don't know what the options are and if there's some way we could look into that. But I feel very strongly that maybe in my research I missed it but I spent quite a bit of time and I can't find any any type of rebate that would be available. There is a reason to pay the bills on the city's website and for the for the electric leaf blowers or replacing gas powered and I think some some of us have put it out in our in our weekly or even less. I've seen multiple council members. Do you know what that person is? that is it. Fifty percent I think it's four hundred mysteries and we could put something in the city manager newsletter this week that can be distributed to everybody as well and it's with the A.M. Chill ok it is ok looked at that and that you personally and we'll do the same thing. Yeah we originally had the discussion we talked about that yeah. The state is actually moving away from gas powered yeah. Moore's law by 2024 so I think the reason why we put our policy together was while arcudi had those funds right. Our residents in our business owners could apply for those dollars. But jill brings up a really good point that a lot of people are just hearing about the ban even though we talked about this a year ago, it would be great to update city manager if we had a meeting maybe at least in the daring exhumed just for land landscaper's and people that own these this type of equipment so they understand exactly how they can apply for it at the time. And MISS Shook's comments are timely at the time we did outreach at the various shops in pasadena that that service equipment for lawn mower equipment and all the leaf blowers there are a number of shops in person to do that and so we we made that information on there but we can certainly go back and make sure that it's still available the information. Thank you. ok, he's coming to the council in eqm. De mistura is coming. The clerk reminds me of the hmd will be here on MARCH 27th. They will be making a presentation so they have a spot on the agenda and we'll provide information then that would be a good day if they're coming already and have a community meeting prior to the good idea meeting. Thank you. Heavenly use is hughes welcome heavenly can you hear me? Yes we can go ahead. Ok great good evening. Good evening. Pasadena city council city manager and the community gangsters in memphis gangsters gangsters in memphis these are the words of passantino chief eugene harris to describe the egregiously violent and brutal murder of terry nichols. Terry nichols beaten to death by the memphis police. We would like to bring your attention again to the brutal and egregious beating of ballou who was beaten by gangsters in pasadena, the pasadena police, the pasadena police are brutally beating and killing black men in pasadena. The only difference between the very violent murder of terry nichols and chris ballou is thankfully chris ballou did not die as brought up earlier by al-sheik gangsters in pasadena . The pasadena police egregiously murdered anthony maclane. Chief harris, we demand to get rid of corrupt police officers. These deputy gangbangers and gangsters who are patrolling the streets of pasadena. We demand that they be fired. My name is kevin hughes, co-founder of my tribe. We focus on public safety. We demand an end to gun violence within the police department in the community. Thank you. Thank you, MR. Hughes. Next speaker that completes public comment on matters not on the agenda. That brings us to the consent calendar, sir. And and we'll ask the clerk to control as bill brings us to the consent calendar and I'll entertain a motion for a sweep motion for matters on the consent calendar move by MR. Massouda their second second seconded by MR. Jones. Any objections hearing none. Then the consent calendar is approved. Next we move to there are no public hearings and will move to all business item eight and this is the seven ten advisory working group at large nominations just to remind everyone we made nine no yeah nine appointments and now we have a group of of individuals who have asked to be appointed and now we'll discuss nominations of the city council for the full council to appoint. So turn it over to the city manager and assistant city manager MR. Reyes will have a quick presentation for the council. Thank you mayor. Thank you, MR. Marquez. We did have some appointments last week and there was some direction to staff to look at those appointments in the context of who had been appointed, what their makeup was, what their background was in terms of their professional expertize and how we might identify some different ways of moving forward with the four at large that four at large members that still need to be appointed by the council. We talked briefly about the role providing very high level input and feedback on policy issues respective to the future plan for the seven ten stubbe. We've talked previously about the composition and desire to have a well rounded group with diverse background and expertize and what had previously been decided by the city council. What was that? There would be 13 members. Each council member would have one appointee. The mayor would have to and there would be four at large. We talked about having two of the total thirteen members be descendants or members of the community that were displaced due to freeway expansion. And again, just to remind the city council and members of the public there were selections made last week, nine of them, one for each council member and two for the mayor. This is in the council report that's before you this evening. And we looked at that composition at we found a couple of of things that we wanted to share. Again, these are within the report. I just wanted to highlight them here for everybody the folks that have been appointed thus far and and we were on the staff side very, very, very happy to see the breadth of expertize that was being brought to the group. They really fell into a couple of categories community advocacy, real estate development. There was a couple of folks that were on the housing production side. There was one architect and then there was someone involved in city governance. We did look a little bit deeper at the appointments and identified six were male, three were female and then identified four for the council and for the public. The self-identified four were white, three were african-american. There was one asian one of iranian descent. And again the point of this was to look at trying to create a broad really to capture the cities. What the cities profile was in terms of trying to provide a composition of this group that would be reflective of community values and then none of the nine appointed members thus far have been identified as being displaced or descendant of a displaced community member and then none of the nine thus far have been identified as latina or latino even though we have a significant population within the city and then none of the appointees were under the age of 50. So we wanted to just share that with with the with the council and again as we move forward with the at large candidates I wanted to share a couple of things so far none of the of the nine were identified as being displaced and there were five folks that did submit applications there in front of you and we note that there are some nominations to share. This is in the report and we have a couple more to add but council member hampton did provide as on the screen and in the report for potential nominations. The vice mayor provided for as well. Council member jones also provided for councilor massouda provided three council member was provided to councilor madsen provided three and council member lyon provided two and then I just wanted to share a couple of things with regard to the displaced community member. I would note that mr jose luis carea received nominations from districts one three five and seven. MISS Bailey received nominations from district two and three and MISS King and mr riddel received appointments from excuse the nominations from district one in four with respect to other at large candidates I would note that mr bryant received nominations from districts one three and six bill deverall district six and seven and MISS Schepper districts one and three and the others that were identified on the previous slides each received one and so these were the ones that I identified that I had more than one council district nominate them and I think with that really I just want to open up to the city council and allow the conversation to happen and provide any other responses to questions you might have. Thank you. Questions comments from members of the council katzmann mr madsen. Thank you mayor. I just wanted to kind of level set must one be a resident of the city to serve that was not stated previously and we did have councilor massouda appoint and the council will confirm mr bryant toccata who is outside city limits and in florida and I know I asked this the last meeting that we discussed this topic were descendants. Is it literally a sort of a bloodline you must a relative a forbearer that was personally displaced. I mean that must be very difficult to sort of document qualify and then part b my question said I had one question so that was part a, part b would be are we sure as a council that a representative of a like friendship baptist you know, speaking really like a large community that has a strong interest in that would not qualify for that? Yeah, I'll take a stab at the first one. I think the second one is to counsel the first part of that. I think as counsel talked about the idea of having some representation directly from those that MAY have been displaced, I think the intent was really to have the seven ten working group at least a portion of that have a voice that was reflective of of actual displacement as we got to it we realized that, you know, we actually thought we'd get more than five total. We did get and receive five applications that identified as being displaced. I think the intent was to have some relation to it. And so with respect to part, I would really turn that back over to you in the council and my final question was I counted like sixty five or sixty six applicants in this pool not counting the nine that we already appointed. Is that that that's correct. Roughly accurate. Thank you very much. Thank you COUNCILMAN Lyon. Thank you mayor. Thank you for the report and everyone thank you for your nominations. It was helpful to go through and kind of have the the tip for for applications to look at again, I want to propose this idea came up last week. I'm not sure who put it out there but we're we have four seats open right now. We have five candidates for two of those seats which will leave us two seats to try to address some of the larger gaps in in the kind of diversity of the same large diversity of experience democratic demographic diversity and diversity of perspectives. So with that in mind, I want to propose and we can maybe table it till we see if we need it. But I want to propose that we look at expanding to fifteen members. i don't think it's incredibly unwieldy. It's not so different than their team that will also leave four seats to to try to balance out the the membership of the of the board after we appoint to dissenting groups. Ok, thank you MR. Lyon. I think the that option is available to the council should should we decide to welcome more requestion than anything else that that option is available to the council. Correct. I can respond yes. It's available and I will make work whatever you all decide to the best of our ability it does get unwieldy. I think we can make fifteen work but I think anything beyond that does begin to get very unwieldy. We will make it work to that just for clarification I'm COUNCILMAN Relion so we would have six extra total right? I mean if we want fifteen and are you proposing that only two of them are still descendants and then other four because it was the other way around it was for descendants and to just that large I could support that. But really at the end of the day the people that lost their properties, these descendants. Right. Who have lost their properties or their families lost their properties I feel like they should be at the table because they weren't at the table before. They have the opportunity to have those discussions. So I would like to understand what is your your framework? Well, I certainly wasn't limiting it. I think we have the two seats that we've set aside for sure for for descendants of displaced families or individuals who were displaced and then for seats to do with what we choose and particularly mindful that we haven't appointed any latina individual and no one under the age of 50, both of which I would like to achieve and we might get those in one person and that'll leave us one more seat. But but I know that some of the candidates for the display seats would fit at least one of those categories that another any of them fit the other category. So I think it would be up to to this body to decide what to do with the other four after we appoint the two. Ok, thank you. Other questions or comments before we start the discussion on I did just have one more question. I mean I personally think that we should get a bit of a 13 but if we added extra two maybe they could be alternates because we might not have I mean there should be we should probably have a backup or two backup people just in case something happens. I think, you know, the the the only I mean this is so yeah. It's just that I mean I'm just saying yeah I can I can go without the two or not but I'm just saying if that was an option if we just had alternates that would be available if something happens that is that are going to be engaged fully engaged in the meetings they their votes don't count but if something happens to one of the any one of the appointees then alternate would step in or or of an appointee is unable to attend a meeting because some of the appointees as you mentioned are in working or they're up in age and this is not this is going to be a meeting where you have to go in person and that could be a hardship for some. Yeah, I would you know, if we're going to ask people to put in the time I understand what you're saying but if we're going to ask people to put in the time the preparation I would suggest if we're going add to let's just add them it would be my response. I understand what you're what we're trying to balance here is having a board that isn't too unwieldy but I just think it would be tough to ask people to do the preparation attend all the meetings and give the level of attention that we're looking for and then say you can't vote. But I certainly understand what you're saying. That's the case and I'm good with the company had thirteen and the discussion and let's make the appointments. Yeah. And if there are some names that come on board just like you know, we should definitely put that person on this on this group then we should open it up to the idea of fifty let's see let's see where we are. I mean the the point of going forward with the initial nine is to settle that discussion, give the council the community an opportunity to reflect on the status and of the of the body after the appointments and then allow the staff to look at some of the needs of in terms of talents and expertize and the staff has done a good job of identifying where we have strengths and maybe where we need some more expertize. Katamon. MR. Jones. Thanks, mayor. Thanks, david for the report. I'd be in support of increasing the number of was called task force members to 15 because I think we have some just really good applicants and I would hate for them not to be a part of the conversation. And then a quick question this is going to be a brown act meeting, right? So they are required to attend in person or teleconference three times throughout the year . The same rules would apply as to the city council. We'll do our very best to have hybrid meetings from the standpoint of allowing the public to watch resume and participate. We're working on that. But you're correct to be around body. Ok, thank you. The clerk has some correspondence to report. Thank you, mayor. We have one letter advocating for the nomination of MR. Phil burns to the seven 10 working group and then one letter submitted submitting additional application information for douglas joyce. Both letters were posted online, distributed to the council and as part of the record for this item ok, do we get letters for the applicants last week though because I thought we had letters also of support for a couple of applicants I could check with the staff and it would have made it intolerable. I remember there being a letter of support for jasmine super. We MAY have reported that out at the last meeting when that when that happened this was perhaps separate but I'll sorry maybe I should be asking this question of david. Do we have any other letters that you remember from the last week that of letters of support from community members? Yes, I do remember seeing a letter of support from jasmine and I can check the record for FEBRUARY 27th to see if that was distributed as part of the record. Ok, thank you. Yeah but but I can assure and say with certainty a letter of support did come in for jasmine what we're looking into that mayor could we just see the the summary MISTER Is that you put up of of slide right now which I'm sorry which summary out the sort of aggregate nominations by name. Yes, sir. This round yeah. The then you had one that showed us a collection of clustering. There we go. I think that's the one you're looking for this place given though we go back one more. yes sir. This is my district's fourth or seven in the previous slide would be one through three but then the next one kind of collected that info. Yeah no we these were the identified nominations that received a nominations for more than one council district. Mr corail did not. I thought he did yeah. I specifically identified the displaced community members as a separate slide. Got you then come back if you could so are we going to do this in a slate? Are we going to do anyway? Well let's see if we can I mean I'm ready to nominate MR. Craig. I got for a point. Yeah. I mean perfect. And I would I would support the can I move to amend the motion to include MR. Bryant and MR. Deverall. I wish I was going one on one at a time is I think the motion I was trying to go one at a time if that's I mean no no. So in which no I will not accept the order that's in other words I'll try to be as I like you know I just want to go one at a time though that's ok . Which order? We'll start with the displaced members first so we have a motion for a second. Oh so sorry. So one person at a time one person at a time and so lewis korea has for council members who had named him and so I assume that that's a that should be an ok vote at least there's four and and the mayor said he would support that number. So that's five there. Yeah, my amendment included him as well. So ok but if you want to do it one at a time yeah that's fine. I'd just be interested in knowing what the order is at some point but yes you have a mayor there's mayor. You're saying no one's going to say vote against member no one's going to vote against a member. That's that's not you never know. I don't think so, MR. Hamdan. I don't think so. It's an and it's a I mean I'm going to I'm going to say yes as well. But I'm just saying that just because four council members nominated the same person like I nominated MR. Riddel he didn't call me I called him. I just looked at at his his his he happens to be district for resident as well. So I'm just saying if we go in order the first two are going to be on no no no an order in that way. No I was just saying that there was someone who got four strong support already and so I know you will be putting a person up for us to vote on. Correct. We're not going by this list I think ok. I think MR. Hampton's motion recognizes that MR. Correa has at least four. Yes. I'm saying I'm prepared to support that's fine. I think MR. Madison. yeah, but I think they are just to go back to the order because I think MR. Massood and I are kind of on the same page. I like the way to do this first are we doing four or six and then I would suggest we figure out what the composition of that group should be. Looks like MR. Correa is going to be in the group whether he wants or not at this point. You know the poster just doing a one on one and then then you got to figure what's the order? And I think the I I understand and I think maybe the let me give you a counterpoint. It MAY be best to see where we end up given the staff's feedback and then if we have if we as a council given the staff's feedback believe that there are some areas where we still need to bolster the group, then we could take up the issue of whether we need another two. So I would say let's let's philby's for see where we find ourselves and then revisit that quickly. So I would then make a motion before I can include in the descendants category not just direct descendants which are unverified by just the applicant but also representative descendants. We represent a group organization that has a strong interest in the stump. Would that be is that's who you're referring to? I don't think it's just joel but he certainly wouldn't fit that definition. You bet. Can I ask one question? How many how many individuals do we have who have multiple nominations already more than one. So just so we don't lose total track of robert's rule, I didn't hear a second through my motion so I guess that that does no, I know that's good. Yeah. Let's take let's it would be five ok all I'll withdraw the motion. There was no second ok ok I think I understand what you're driving at MR. Madsen. I think we can meet the spirit of what you're seeing. Let's see where we find ourselves. I don't disagree with what you're saying. Let's but let's first see if we can feel a build consensus and feel it based on the existing criteria. I I'd like to make a nomination given the information we have. Oh I'm sorry. I apologize. We didn't vote yet. Friendly amendment to tyrone's motion. Could we include brian in there too because he got numerous votes. That was that was you know that was so solid we're taking one at a time ok? Yeah so there's a motion for there's a motion and a second day rescore I apologize mark. I didn't get the second I had the the motion was made by mr hampton seconded by the vice mayor williams thank you. Ok, all in support no objection . Ok, I'm going to take a no objections at least none that I've seen and take a moment of privilege and ask that the council and I would nominate mike hansen who I think has a tremendous wealth of experience from a planning perspective has served on the planning commission and has certainly been a part of the long history on this issue and would nominate MISS Hansen second we did that together in unison the record reflect we have two seconds questions comments. So to be clear, the mayor current state of play is we'll have one more at large to address the issues that were identified and one more descender at this point and then to the point of MR. Line and others that than we can see where we find ourselves. I'm responding to the fact that we don't have in the staff report there's a bullet point of the nine members we have other than MISS Kurtz who's a terrific appointee on the part of the council people who have a planning background and MISS Hansen certainly has a planning background both professionally as well as chair and member of the planning commission a few times over I yield to no one in my support of mac. I just didn't see anyone nominated in the report. That's that's correct. I think the mayor did it just now. Ok, so the mayor did not submit names three person I thought I thought I did. I apologize that they didn't make it in here but I certainly have. All right. I certainly asked that they be included. yeah. So MISS Hansen won't support any objections. See none then. MISS Hansen. Thank you, colleagues now so the status is one I like the motion barbequing MR. Councilor council member is in the queue. Oh, I'm sorry. I have to look to MR. Jones first but sometimes you can't unring the bell. Yeah, like the most and bryant second. Yeah. And MR. Bryant would be for at large. At large yes. MR. Bryant is certainly also a known quantity with vast experience. Yeah. And knowledge of the pasadena community and this issue and these are all at large in response to your question, MR. Bryant is at large now. We still have them at large but he doesn't qualify. No. MR. Correa is written on the application he went for MR. Correa. I think both is displaced and so we would now have to at large one displaced. Well, but I my view is MR. Bryant also is so closely associated with friendship baptist that he's a good representative, not just one distant family member but for a large interest cohort of of community members. MR. Bryant, a large he played in large MR. Bryant also has a wealth of experience in finance and that's another gap in real estate financing having operated his own development company and and that's another area where the staff identified gaps. I recall MR. Actually was MR. Bryant who was responsible for and financing the closure of the first liquor store. So we owe him quite a bit of gratitude for that. So we have a motion ok, enough about MR. Right. We have a motion and a second all those in favor. I am so now that brings us to anybody opposed anybody object? No thank. We need one more for a display . We have one displaced community seat and we need one mayor for the council's benefit. There's four listed here. There is a fifth in the report and that's lisa wilson and that application was submitted into the report. But these were the ones that received nominations. They the motion I'm going to give MR. Oh suddenly they made is giving suddenly everyone's paying attention to the q so yeah. MR. Hampton followed by MR. Jones I like to make a motion for barbara richardson. Barbara kean sorry I'd second that. So mayor, now this question of are we doing six or four really does become right? Well in my view this would be the third representative with ties to the history of that starts I mean you all MAY disagree but that MAY be fine. But I'd like to know if we're aiming at four or six. Well, I think you know, that's up to the city council. You know, we can proceed and vote on this and then see we're with the wishes of the city council is mayor yes. I would be in favor of increasing to fifteen and including if we can go to the next slide including jasmyn and I'm just responding to staff report that none of the current appointees are under the age of 50 and I think that jasmyn support from two council members and I think that she would be a great asset on the task force. So adjustment to my motion barbequing. Well, I think we have to adjust to let's let's say up next those all know we agreed that we would take make the first four and then reassess and let's stay true to to that aspect of it. And so we have a motion in a second for barbequing. We have a motion in the second to I know mayor that's your desire. I'm not sure we all agree. Well that's that's what we agreed to. It's a I guess it's a question as much as a reminder so we could revisit that it would be a sudden revisiting but that's my suggestion that we I sense that we're going to end up at fifteen. Let me just say that so shall we what's what's the desire of the council? Do we want to make the determination now or do we want to vote on well, we will vote on one yeah. We would vote on one again the council has an opportunity. what's the desire of the council? I would suggest we vote on one and then revisit the the number as well as the talents that we're looking for. All right. Yes, MR. PRESIDENT, it's going exactly like I thought it was going to go. Yeah, and so you planned this. I am glad that MR. Madsen saw what I was saying and I appreciate that. I mean I think I have three outstanding members that I asked to be on here with edgar rhyder riddel adriana lim which if you look at her short bio that I put on here in douglas joyce is an architect. I really thought really heavily strongly on these people but so did other I I can imagine how others as well but they don't have multiple council members nominating them. There's a reason for that they didn't call it or not council members or or got involved that way to to get their support. But well, I would love to see douglas joyce as an architect. Adriana, as you know, has been a real estate appraiser in working for the office, the assessor's office and being a descendant of someone from eminent domain. I would like to say I hadn't talked to any of these appointees besides the point that I appointed last week about this now for joe I know joe you know barbara richardson . I'm vibrating liz right across the street from me and I'm not trying to point him because she lives right across street from where she was actually displaced in her family. So don't MISS Your hand and derricks on it. No, no, no question question about it. But I'm just telling you what I saw from the very beginning what was going to happen and that's what happened to me. You know, I've always viewed this as the initial step. We are going to have plenty of opportunity to involve a lot of people I you know, there's in my mind you know, I'm prepared to be proven wrong. I just don't see one group handling all of the issues that need to arise. I think one of the first charges and we can when we come back to talk about kicking off this one of the first charges for this group is going to be to set up their own sort of subcommittees that could include others subcommittees that involve finance that involve open space, that involve recreation, that involve transportation, that in involve the issue of wrongs that need to be righted. All of those issues are going to have to be and more separately addressed and so I would say to you that, you know, this is a this is a tough process but there's going to be an opportunity and I'll just make a suggestion the minute this group is seated one of the first agenda items for them is to sort of bring structure to this process and advise us on where other expertize and maybe other committees might be needed and we could ask them at that point to consider some of these individuals who are all very qualified as a part of those subcommittees. Again, those are decisions that need to be made and when we have our our retreat as a council that should be one of the items that we discuss. Ok, so this is certainly not the last opportunity for us to consider these individuals to have a part of the process who's in the queue now? MR. Jones, did you say ok, before we take that MR. Line followed so before we vote on the fourth one because this does feel like everyone this way everyone got nervous because we're crossing the hill somehow I'm going to tell you who my three are. I'm just going to put them out there and why and maybe we can if we hear all the way around we can find some consensus about what's bill deverill for his knowledge of the history of our region and and he will bring a very expansive scope to it. Jasmyn schepper both for the fact that she is blessedly under 50 and she her application is a really lovely human holistic approach to this process which is would be my preference and michelle richardson bailey both for her experience as a displaced person and to bring in the school board voice because it was the reason I really wanted mick in the process. I think there are certain stakeholders who need to be present and institutional stakeholders as well. And so the school board for me but I also I'm not interested in voting against a candidate as jean said. Right. So so that's why I would go with michelle would be my preference. But those are my three thanks. Next, MISS Rivas followed by smy williams. Thank you marin. In a similar vein, everyone whose name has been mentioned recently would be a great asset . And so yeah, I don't want to vote against anyone. I want to have them all somehow . But I do want to just point out I think we're we're close to getting to the thirteen and potentially the fifteen and at this point we've only appointed one latino member of the board in a city that's roughly a third latino. So just something that we should all keep in mind. So I really wanted to I guess talk up my nomination who would address both? You know, being latina and also someone under fifty de la paz de la paz has an impressive background in economic development affordable housing ,land use and planning, fighting, gentrification, displacement all of the issues are concerned about here. She currently has her own consulting practices that focuses on helping neighborhoods of color influence and have a voice directly in the policies that affect her practice centers on resident community members that are directly affected by translating complicated language into regular language that that regular people can understand. And so I think experience and perspective would be a critical addition to the task force and so I look forward to hearing the rest of everyone's nominations and thoughts. Thank you, mayor. Thank you. Must reverse vice mayor williams so I have to go to bat for my appointees and I did follow the process. I pointed them two weeks ago. So julianna delgado on the planning commission also she is an urban planner and urban planning professor and her class actually did a project on the seven 10 step. So she has a lot of background on this and I really did want her to to be on the she's probably one of the ones that I really want to be on there. She would provide a great perspective. Lynn sullivan is someone who many people are not familiar with. She worked for city national bank and she did all of the real estate assets and disposition. So if we're talking about a finance person very, very deep financial knowledge is a little bit newer to the city does live in district six kind of near the location as well. And another one that I had was rick madden which came to me from district six and that is someone who actually lives along the route of the 710 and so a legal background and and also a strong background in sort of fixing up his home along the 710 and dealing with a lot of those issues. And then michelle richardson bailey again she brings that education piece and the youth piece to the to the perspective along with being a descendant, someone who's displaced and and I'd like to see her and I think juliana and michelle would be the two that I really would like to see on there. Thanks, juliana and michelle, MR. Madison, one just question I'm generally confused. The vice mayor said that she followed the process and nominator I think she said she appointed them two weeks ago. I think he's been nominated but two weeks ago that application period wasn't closed. Well, the last council meeting we were last we were asked to submit all of our nominations how large and per council district and I think I was the only one who did it. I don't so I don't recall that at all. I was the instructions and of us I don't know that it was on the nominations. I think you're correct on the initial nomination but I don't know that for the large but regardless thank you for I don't think we had a formal structured formal process for that but I mean just be concerned that all the all the applicants got a fair shake, you know. Yeah. We we we actually met on the last day if you recall if you recall we extend the application to last wednesday. Right. But that shouldn't that should be without prejudice to any absolutely. I guess within the time yeah yeah yeah. I think we'll know vice mayor williams is the high achiever on this one and I say yeah yeah well thank you thank you for bringing that to a close but again we're talking in passing on it it's not a high achiever when you exclude a group of timely applicants that hadn't had their applications yet. I just want to make sure there's a high achiever. We're told the deadline was wednesday and then we extended it again and then extended it again. I think wednesday was still two weeks after two weeks. Let's let's not let's not start from our past and not extend over extend this conversation. Sure. But having heard all that, I'd be prepared to support as the final three because by my count we've appointed three and if we're going to six we'd have three more jazmyne shopper michelle richardson and bill deverill and so there was I'm hearing I'm sorry emotions certainly I think that emotion I thought there was a motion there's a motion for barbara and then we've already voted on joe and who else make hosain ok and there's a motion for barbara so then we would need two more after that. Correct. So so there's there we we do we want to take a vote on one I I am concerned that along with misread us that we don't have more represented action at this point in the from the latino community a large part of our community. I like the name renney del the nominee and name renney de la pres who also fits the category of being a younger person than most of the nominees. She's also of mexican and japanese descent which helps to fill a couple of gaps and I'm not in any way bias or partially but she's also a planner, a lawyer and she's a planner and or we won't hold a lawyer against the mayor. I share similar sentiments and I'd be prepared to support her as well in this in the in the second round or do we go forward with ok, I think we should finish first rather than ok fair enough. So there's a motion for there's a motion in the second for barbequing there was a motion and a second I think for jasmine schepper, michelle richardson bailey and bill deverall. Let's so that's where we stand. Ok so there was an original motion for MR. Hampton and MR. Jones for barbara king and then it was a secondary motion for jasmine schepper, michelle richardson bailey and bill devereaux would qualify as a substitute motion. I would turn to the city attorney yeah. So I think under robert's rules we vote on the substitute first ,MR. Lyons second what is the I like to make an amendment to that substitute motion you guys are involved in the amendment would be to add remy de la plaza instead of one instead of you name a name to so what was the motion? so my motion would be remy de la plaza, michel richardson bailey and jasmine scheuber instead of bill devereaux. It'd be the amendment I would promise for all of the intent of the descendant peace and all that which I supported. Boy, we'd really be losing something to not have bill deverall I mean we MAY not appreciate what a contribution that is and this is one of the preeminent historians in the country who's willing to voluntarily and there's an opportunity because we still have an historian that we have to hire. Well, I'm sure he'd appreciate that. I think MR. Madison is arguing for for free. Yeah, for free like for it did occur to me one of the reasons that I hadn't had juliana delgado on my list is that it occurred to me that she might present as an expert that might well be true of bill as well that that they could come in and speak to the panel which would would and be available as a resource for consulting on a kind of professional side. So I would probably be ok with subbing that out. You know, the other option is is we could name them as historical advisors to to the seventeen working committee and you know, to provide historical perspective and planning for but nothing stops us from going to sixteen. You go sixty eight if you like. Yeah but but let's let's let's let's try and keep within it. So what was the amendment to the amendment would have been would be to change bill deverall and put in remy de la paz which would be jasmine schepper, michelle richardson bailey and remy de la paz a as the maker I would accept that amendment. Well, give me the names one more time. The second also needs to I'm waiting for that part. Listen, I'm on board jasiek I want to make her actual ok jasmine schrecker jasmine schepper michelle richardson and remy de la paz. That's the motion as it currently stands acceptances jasmi