Transportation, Energy & Utilities Committee

>> doesn't matter. Good morning, everybody. We're going to go ahead and get started with the Tuesday NOVEMBER 4th meeting of the Transportation Energy and Utilities Committee. Let's start with introductions. Starting with them are going. >> Good morning. You know, build awaiting mayor's office Russell Council Research. >> Harlow Shout Office of General Counsel. >> Ed Whelan Ski Council auditors office. Our City Council district one as you get enjoy a dish or will. And in district morning, Matt Carlucci, a large group or good morning to club or a district 9. All right. Good morning, everyone. So we're going to do today. We're going to start off. We have some folks here fdot and they're going to give an update on the Main Street bridge trendy in replacement project. There's been a lot of news >> What sounds like it's going to be a fairly substantial and a long time frame project. And so I was kind of curious, asked our friends fdot. They can just come and give us kind of the 5 minute highlight of what this project entails, how long the bridge will be out and some other details. So going to start off with them. They will switch to public comment after that Icmr out there. If you do intend to have a public comment just like a full council meeting, please come down here and sit in the reserved seats. So we minimize the time spent walking back and forth and then our agenda is pretty light. Today. We only have a 5 action items that have already going through other committees and all appear to be unanimous and other committees. But we do have the right people here. If there any questions on action items. So with that, I'm going to turn over to fdot. And when you come up, just please give name and address and I'm not going to start the but just roughly 5 minutes like we talked about. >> All right. Thank So I'm Ross Amick and I am the District corridor program manager or fdot. My address is currently 7 to northwest. Like Jeffrey Road Lake City, Florida. So here to this briefly talk about the main street and trying project which is scheduled to let in fiscal year. 28, the current lead is scheduled for JULY. 27, but that is just the place will hold or we don't have a definite let date yet, but it will be sometime in that fiscal year. 28 that the goal is to have it early in the fiscal year as well. So the trying project itself is this. That's that that run is the. Call it a That's at the top of the towers. It turns. And that's what actually list the span up and down. It's one of the last original mechanical pieces of the bridge that has not been rehabbed to date. That's what the gist of this project is is to to replace That main piece. However, there's other things that are going to be done as part of the project since we're going to have that opportunity. And as you all know, the bridge will be shut down during that period of when the the training is actually being replaced. We're going thank the bridge will be in a that put on the list spans. It will be removing the grating. From And a number of strengthening items that will be done and in order to replace that Ryan, we have to for strength and the towers that hold that ride because the bridge is as old as it is. The tritons are made now are fear and heavier than the original trendy and when it was originally built. So. When the project does actually contract executes the bridge will be shut down immediately, though there will be a point of time where we have acquisition period where we have you know, place the order for than a trillion and with the recent tariffs that have taken place, we're not sure just how that's going affect that schedule. Most movable Bridge Park's do come from overseas. So that is going to play part in that with this whole schedule of the project. We just recently in JULY this year started the design. So we've just got it kicked off and go would so we don't have a definitive timeline yet on. Projected date, the bridge would actually closed to traffic. However, when that happens are detour route is the Acosta Bridge. So it's a very short detour. And I don't know a couple months ago, we did. Close it down for about a week and in AUGUST we had to do that in order to start the design on it. We had to it's a measurements and we did some lot or imaging and in order. Be as precise as possible. We had to remove traffic from the bridge so that we didn't have the vibration going on. So we could get those accurate measurements. With that. Like I said, it, it won't close down immediately. When it does. We do have to shut the movable park down. Or try replacement. It we are being told it will take up to 6 months, though that detour would be in place for up to 6 months while the that Ryan is replaced and would not sure yet if the whole move will span will be removed floated off down the river to a holding facility. Well, they're doing that. But the bridge will have to be in the open position for the Coast Guard. Traffic will be removed from the from the bridge for that period of time. Any any questions? That's really the day that I had it. Thank you. I I do have a couple people to key just ask a definition question. First, before I go to the members, he said let date for construction people up here. What is left date news that the same as the commencement date build. That is the day that the bids are actually due to the department. >> Thank you, MR. Maher. >> Thank MISTER Chair. Sizable on the taking new decking new painting strengthening of the towers replacing of that Runyon. And all that is going to be accomplished in 6 months. >> the trying in from from. >> What we are being currently that that will take roughly 6 months. So when the project a contract is executed. The bridge will be shut down immediately. There will be a period of time because they have to order the parks, but also in order to replace that Runyon, they have to strengthen the tower, said they'll start a strengthening towers. First. Traffic will still be on the on the bridge. During the time when the training is being replaced. Traffic will be removed and things like the grating. That's going to be place that will be done during that period of time. The goal is to schedule those items so we would not be shutting down traffic. All the time. We would do it in this as much as we can in that six-month period. 2, minimize the impacts to traffic. >> One more question through the love the main Street bridge. I hope you painted blue again. >> Given its age and design. >> Well, 2 questions, number one, the total cost of all this work. But secondly, given the age and design of the bridge being one of the mobile, a movable spans high traffic areas is is there much life left in that bridge or? The you anticipate 10 years from now, it completely different structure. >> With the historic significance of that bridge. Our intentions are to keep the bridge. No one and part of this rehab project replacing that Ryan. >> Will extend that laugh. I believe trillions are built for like 100 years of life. That's a pretty pretty significant for the mechanical portion of it. And then the strengthening that's being done. That's just resetting the clock on on those items on the on the bridge to give us more life out of it. And then ultimately painting that is going to preserve the steal as well. So that we anticipate Main Street bridge being around much longer than probably any of us. Currently. I believe the project. Is just over 100 million dollars like, like total all in. Construction, believe is this construction I remember correctly is like a t up to million. All phases is just over over 100. But it's going to be a pretty significant project. But it's going to. Extend the life of the main Street bridge for a long time. Thank you. MISS Clark >> Thank you, chair. Good morning, MR. Morrow asked all the questions. So went on a 3 at what cost and a lot no pad here. So I guess I'll ask one other question about safety does so it will save the will there be an inspection in terms of as a part of this? We've are pushing project is that does that go along with other as banks of the breeze being inspected to make sure that it's all sound. Yes, ma'm. So. >> Just because the bridge will be under construction doesn't mean that will stop the inspections. We are still mandated by thanks to every 2 years to do a routine inspection. But also every year we have to do a mechanical electrical inspection on the bridge that those will continue, even though it'll still be under construction. And then as we reach certain milestones in construction, the department will be perform and what we would call it. 90% inspection and out of those inspections. We will provide a punch list to the contractor of things that. Need to be corrected. And usually they're very, very minor things. And so by the time that the bridge is complete, our this project is completed. It would have had another full inspection to verify that everything was done correctly. And if things functioning properly. All right. Thank you so much for that. Through the chair to tomorrow. >> Jacksonville would not be Jacksonville without the mains to read, I mean, really, that's that's like. What? And as far as the caller. I like the will keep it live. I the plan is for it to continue to be the blue >> Thank you. Thank I'd like to recognize Councilmember Dr Johnson who has arrived in COUNCILMAN Carlucci. You're up next. >> Remember when the I was so such a nice color I do not. Question what about the piers and that, you know, hold it down the water. I guess they're good forever. I mean, most. That. >> There's also going to be some some rehab work will be going >> For the for the Piers and the water as well. They are good Most of the deterioration that happens on on this is everything above the water that's exposed to the salt air and oxygen which causes the the corrosion. But yes, there will be doing some additional stuff to all the Piers as far as trying to mitigate corrosion on them as well. And I should know this, but I don't I approximately what that bridge we're not seeing 48 Fortier. Well, I thought it went back further not okay. Well, it's going in the bridge will be this work will be a in 1928. 1920, punch omaze there 2028. >> Yes, I would say the bulk of the work will be underway in 28, which is what our fiscal year. 28 when anticipate executing the contract sometime after JULY. 27, ok, thank you. >> Thank you. Notes in the queue. I thank you for this update. I think one thing you heard here, we got unanimous support for the blue collar just I think the highlighted here is around JULY 2027. Is when you go starting bids back. Construction will begin some point after that. But as far as the daily impact to Jacksonville citizens, it's going to be about 6 months in which they're going to have to use an alternate route. I see our public works. Leadership team is here. I are working very closely with them as well and that all the other questions I had raf. So again, just thank you for this. And we look forward to seeing sounds like everybody signed up that Runyon. But it sounds like there's lots of new things that are going to greatly extend the life for more than just what the the training part of this. So we thank you for all the work you're going to do on our our Pride Bridge of drought downtown. We do appreciate so. Thank Thank you. And we will. >> Continue to keep you updated on on the project as a schedule becomes, you developed just said that. Everybody is aware of the timelines. And when they anticipated six-month period of shutdown will be. Right. Thank you very much. >> We're not going to switch to a public comment, MR. Oliver, you have 2 minutes to speak item on today's agenda. >> Yes, my name is Carter addresses on file. I have a life insurer is. >> And the Main Street bridge, I have a couple of questions. As they're in the contract that's been worked out with the state and maybe a local level. Is there a preference clause in it to get black Americans. First dibs on the contracts. That's the first question. Number 2. Really, I would prefer black Americans who are on the Jay set program, the involved in the construction peas. Number 2, we've got 3 Bridges star name of the White politicians. But we'd never named not one of the bridges in our urban core a black American that served our community. Our rather see the Uptown Main Street Bridge. Well, somebody represented this community on that bridge, but there's conflict thing issue. If if I want And forced the pri black Americans in this community. We have one issue that contradicts that. And that's the statue of and you Jax. Don't know the Of the downtown library. There was a sign put up. Talking about Andrew Jackson. We know the story all too well. But the story. Of the 19, 0, 1, Great fi really been toll and no city limit. That's a real lack of respect. But Black America. And I personally feel like we need our all. And in these go to Indiana Self-governance. That's pow. Thank you, MR. Oliver. >> Next step John, many. MR. On an item on the agenda. >> The low I am John j. Noon. 83. 56 road Jacksonville, Florida, 3, 2, 2, 1, 6, stressful City Council resolution. 2023, 0, 8, 1, 9, City Council district. 4 cpac planning district 3 in Duval County. Public Schools resulting see field trip district 3, okay. Special shout out to the board of County commissioners in Saint Johns County. Kristen Joseph Chair, Lee Murphy, Vice Chair Christian Whitehurst share Arnold and Taylor. E d the Office of extraordinary duties. We're making a movie. It's going to be wicked Albia in a minute 20 for a gentle items. One number 2, 2025, 0, 7, 6, 7, Okay. This is what Joe Doge stuff. Okay. We've got 292 $1000. Is Greg stronger? Anyone with the Florida Department environmental protection here? It's not an waterways city adaptation and cuddly. Nice planned public park, 2025 or 0, 00:01:09am, Pottsburg Creek, Resilient Jacksonville. Here it is. I mean, this thing for Ty Inc. All right. And just 50 seconds. Ask an about her first meeting. You know, I think environmental protection. But with James Richardson, you know, we walked over from the city hall to the edible building was in the first floor. Check this sign in sheet. I mean, I was there. I have yet to have an e-mail back from an, you know, You know, if she's not, is this an emergency deferred? You know, it's so anyway, you know, and I'll tell you know, Dr Pena was there. No were up. We are talking about 2024, 0, 1, 0, 7 or 2024, 0, 3, to 5 today. This is just new judge evidence. Jen, to item 3 number 5, 2025, 0 72. That's a public hearing. Spot j launched j Jim Love Kevin Cause l thank you, MR. Dunning. All right. Thank you for listening. >> All right. So the agenda just flip through quickly have night items total. I'm one twenty-twenty Pfizer's 7, 6, 6 will amended move item to 2025 and 6, 7, will move item 3, 2020 Pfizer's 7, 6, 8, will amend and move item for 2020 Pfizer's in 6, 9 amended move item number 5 twenty-twenty Pfizer's to we will open and close a public hearing on that. But that is going to be deferred eaten those requirements and then the remainder of the items, 6, 3, 9, which items 2025 or fives or aids or 6 or 8 or 7, 0, 8, 0, 8, are all on second reading. So with that at the top of the agenda item, one twenty-twenty Pfizer's some 6, 6, credit emotion on the amendment. Got a motion second. Going please. >> chair, the committee, the amendment updates. The revised revised schedule b one, a the schedule will reflect 1300 hours, which was what was originally approved when this grant came through and should have been included on it as part of the budget. And then also as part of this bill, they are adding an additional 1040 for a total of 2,340 hours for this grant operation in the current fiscal year. And there's also scrivener's item. >> Thank you have known and key. All those in favor of the amendment say Aye, aye. All those opposed say nay. I got a motion saying on the bill as amended, have no one in the queue about record your vote and I'll keep about open for DR. Johnson. >> 6 yeas, 0 nays. >> Our actions we pass Twenty-twenty Pfizer's 7, 6, 6, it Twenty-twenty Pfizer's 7, 6, 7, Got a motion second on the bill. COUNCILMAN Carlucci recognized. MR. CHAIRMAN just would like to know the clip. Those version of >> what the city of Haitian plan >> looks like we have the right person, the audience to come into your question. >> Good morning. I'm DR. Jenny Han on the deputy chief resilience officer here on behalf of and this morning, the adaptation plan will be a prioritization of capital improvement Be a framework to help us understand what resilience benefits we're getting from each of those projects so that we can better apply for resilient Florida grant funding. Through the chair these projects that have already been completed. >> Or projects to be completed. >> projects that are on the current cip list projects that could be added to the cip. Upcoming project. Let's get it. So would that mean they would be evaluated? So if there's changes that need to be made. >> In order to make. Then more effective for resiliency purposes, the changes would be major considered. It is. Is that what what? >> Really not outside of the current scope right now, I'd be considering the project as proposed. Considering for what their rank or where they fall as far prioritization for resilience impacts. We're considering that there already. They're already. Resilient in nature, but which ones are the most? Important for resilient purposes? Yes, our so understanding which projects MAY have the greatest impact on flooding and our communities where those that MAY impact our heat print. We have an example of which of those Mike there might be. We've got some bridge raising projects that would help us to overcome future sea level rise and flooding impacts. So I assume those would be on the list as far as where they would rank. I'm not sure how rank compared project over time. None of that will support this. And I think the officer resiliency does a great job. Haven't seen. >> And for a long time, but I hope she's doing well MR. Chair I think its some point I as a committee might suggest that we have presentation on. How much progress the city's mates as Created the office Resiliency back in probably 2020 we don't hear. We don't talk that much about resiliency, but that was one of the issues on my agenda when I was elected back in 2019, we worked hard to put that together. And that's probably one of the biggest issues that our children, our children's children, will face in the years to come and so I'd like to see what kind of progress is made is. And I've been sitting back just letting her do her job and you're in that office to suppose. Yes, sir. Okay. It happened. Let's all do your your work. But I come have an update. So I just don't add up there. MR. Chair, if you'd like to consider that I think it might be good for the good for the committee and for the council. Thank you. >> And thank you. To COUNCILMAN Carlucci and the rest of the As of now, I have no presentations on the docket. So if you want to reach out to my see if you have an idea more than That sounds like a great presentation. I just work with Jamie and we work and getting the right people here at upcoming date. With that. No more speakers in the q about a quarter of it. >> 16 yeas, 0 nays. >> By our actions we have approved twenty-twenty Pfizer, 7, 6, 7, item, 3, 2020 Pfizer's in 6, 8, Admission second on the amendment. MISTER Lawsky, please. >> To chair the committee, the amendment attention revise cip sheet, correct the prior year presentation. >> Thank you. Have no in the queue. All those. They were the amendment. Please say aye, aye. Any amendment passes. Commission bill as the men I mentioned second on the bill as amended Avenue in the q about a quarter it. >> 16 yeas, 0 nays are actions we pass Twenty-twenty Pfizer's some item for 2025. There some 6, 9, taking a much on the amendment? >> Commission second on the Amendment, MR. Whiskey. >> The chair, the committee, the amendment is the same as with the prior bill just updating that cip sheet to reflect a proper information. >> Thank you. I had no one in the key. All this spare the Please say aye. Puts a name passes. To get a motion on the bill as amended. Got a motion and second on the bill as amended. I have no one in the q about record your vote. >> 16 yeas, 0 nays are actions we passed Twenty-twenty Pfizer's 7, 6, 9, Item, 5 twenty-twenty Pfizer's 07:18am, going to open the public hearing. One speaker card MR. John, any? >> MR. Nanny directly on this piece of legislation. >> The low I am John Jay. Nearly 83. 56 past merge actual Florida 3, 2, 2, 1, in City Council district. Or cpac planning district. 3 school board resiliency field trip Park. District 3. All right. On the bill, the public hearing 2025, 0 72. And you know, I support the legislation. And let me just say you got 2 issues here. Also, it's a neighborhood rules t eu, but it's not waterways. Now has anyone done? Ancestry dot com on this thing? I mean, you know, we're going to going from Catherine Street, you know, to you know, Mary Bradley is place. You know, it's, you know, all And then we're just going to be naming building don't get me wrong. There's nothing wrong with that. Will this also eliminate Catherine Street downtown. Just ask him. And let me just say to, you know, when I when I think of that plays, that's a 26 feet of Catherine Street. What's on the North Bank on the South Bank? We had the 26 Catherine Street, but I go back to 2 Navy veterans. Jim Love Kevin, because l, you know, COUNCILMAN Stephen Jones to mean we met rate there the end. You know, I had some firehouse subs with the kayaker it there. This was at one time a find. Consideration. And it wasn't my idea. The other thing that's awesome about all this stuff. None of this is my idea. You Kevin Cause Lme knew it was like brilliant. >> And I go, wow. That is awesome. And and you so anyway, you trade here. So I you know. >> When you change name and you change the history. Don't forget the history of what existed before and that is public access on our waterways downtown. And if people think for one second we're getting, we're getting crushed. >> Absolutely crushed. So I'm just and Ali, 40 some seconds. But anyway, you know, just I'm curious, will this eliminate cash street? You know, throughout that whole downtown because we've shut off and we've done a lot just asking that. You know, the the public hearings, it's going to continue next one. This one will go to 10. NOVEMBER 12 got NOVEMBER. 25th. You know, we are redefining downtown. So I support it. Bradley's place. I just hope someone has reached out. I mean, I don't know why I'm the only mystery nanny. >> All right. Thank Chair. I'm sorry, Michelle. It's going to take us >> I have 2 members in the queue. Do I need continue the public hearing first or should I recognize those members? >> The chair, I would gather continue the public hearing to 11 18. 25. >> This public hearings continue Till 11, 18. 25 councilmember Dr Johnson, you're recognized. >> Thank you, MR. Chair. I just wanted to speak to this piece of legislation notice meeting council blue. So and i are have worked on this now. Want to tell you why this is so important. I honestly didn't know that this committee would be speaking today, but certainly I'm glad, you know, to hear that he had something to say that he was looking at this important legislation. And not only does this predate the reason for this change predate the information that MR. A share but also preserves the history of downtown. And I want to let the public and community now Catherine Street will not disappeared. Still remains is only a small portion of Catherine Street and this history of Jacksonville predates anything including that sub that was talked about. Nevertheless, just so we understand Henry Bradley was an amazing man who we don't know how he looked. We don't know anything about much because he passed away back in the late excuse me in the late 18 80's MR. Bradley was and after American man, Jacksonville had a volunteer fire department. We did not have what we now know as jfrd and there was a burning building. Obviously, this is before the great fire of 19. 0, 1, But this man with no regard for his life, just he wanted to save. Who was there? Ran into a burning building and unfortunately he lost his life. He was buried in an unmarked grave in the old City cemetery. And he's if there are any and we have not been able to find them. But his descendants, descendants, descendants are all deceased. Now, thankfully, the fire Department, the union marker to his life in the cemetery. But since being elected to the council, one of the things that I've tried to do as someone who is a student of history is to ensure that we preserve those kind of things in our our city. And while there aren't a lot of people that visit the Old City cemetery, I felt it was befitting to remember MR. Bradley, because the sacrifice of his life is what created the Jacksonville Fire and Rescue Department today. And so that's the purpose for this honoring him. And coincidentally, this station on Catherine Street, which was fire station number 3, I believe, was the only fire station at one point during segregation that African-Americans were allowed to fight. It is now fight fires from it is now the fire Museum for everyone. So I think it's a beautiful tribute to a man who gave his life to the city. We won't know how he looks, but we certainly can't remember his name. So I look forward to forwarding this legislation and making sure that our city is a beacon of placemaking and understanding and even resiliency. Thank you, MR. Chair COUNCILMAN Carlucci. Well, that's a great story. A love I hope that. >> All of that is some help placing the markers somehow. But those captured. Like the who Katherine was. Council member doctor zones. I know I do the fellow. It was the daughter of from my understanding and cherry p# # . And I worked on Pollack from the office of General Counsel. And I'm not sure if she's here. Think she is because it's being deferred. >> she was the daughter and I'm not looking at that detail. I do have an upstairs. The daughter of one of the founding members of from my understanding that part of Jacksonville, had a feeling. It won't change through that. You answer this question because you'll know the answer. Okay. But how many people know who our street was named after? Now? You can answer any of the bill. I love Bill Delaney answer then and then I I know you do. And then Well, the hearts daughter, as was joy. The hearts daughter. So these names sometimes have a funny. And so I have a feeling, Kathryn. I knew you would know Katherine, because know what a researcher you are. So these are the fast a little thing. I think are interesting to know about our city. Anyway, now Katherine U.S. If you got mortals Senate some more to ok? Thank you. No doubts in the DR. Johnson Rep remind where the street is. Is this by where the fire museum has been relocated to? >> So Catherine Street goes all the way to the water and now it's okay. >> You're recognized chair its just that portion on the water side. The other side will remain Catherine Street. >> Okay. In adr jokes and have a have you talked to the iff about this? I believe are they the ones who run the fire museum? Does the fire museum? Are they support of this year support of the Brotherhood of firefighters, the support of the fire department with 2 gold in a supportive way. >> Before I put this legislation when I heard the story was so riveting to me, I went walked over to the the monument no to the cemetery. A walk to Kathleen Street found a, you know, obviously a lot of the people who understanding of the story of passed on. But I was able to like get as much history as I could and everyone has been supportive. Thank please at me as a co-sponsor to this legislation. We have no other members and anything else before a gavel out. >> With that, we will adjourn.