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>> And that month so, but now about 2.5 p St. Louis. All to the current. And we'll be talking not bow. Utah and the benefits of youths on hi sweetie continue the discussion. I said just percent Asian. Now one of the issues that we describe it in this County knowing what been good review. This tough guy. One of the things as a result of the. >> Full. Media in full plane is we the all this. A recomendations toughest issue with disco I was. Now a lot of us spew back because of the closeness of the 4 median openings tool synthesis sectional probably to be a single license to sections. So the call so that's that little find spiel about laying down his pen us peeled back. Nice time to see a fall to slow traffic. So there are a d and they will solve this os slow down the That dinner dates. I love peace and people trying to cut through the trough week gab ai adding to the debt crisis we fund that Baker coming. So that's one thing and then I say it is also that Dolby dot com eat so I know that teen on-demand line. Yeah guys you MAY stop blocking that traffic. Nice one of the issues. The second issue we saw in this car, you know as the 5 that a lot of conflicts because for different that we have the full made an opening that creates I've for my confidence and the county to. So we can see in that picture show how all those conflicts call so as a result of those conflicts that lay still crash is that the best thing to do he's to find how Coll would reduce the number of conference the county da and then the mob looted isn't about of coffee dates. The mall, we and even a b plus ability of those crises will it take to that's a type of Conference. So they some of that issue then did talk issue then taught major issue we signed according to is car. I need that only doubt very no I think small Miley fall is section ladies in this County, though the time maybe 45 miles supposed to be roughly about 290 to 5 feet intended to storage fun to be where people can visit to get to the till. Stop the funding mix he left time how The. Here the many months about the one about 15. Icy Moon or then you add them, cough off they require had length of the timing. So we have these and many locations out on the across the. Across the delaying some of the projects. I see it is all told that that is it kind off the cause of these 4 fish ain't that funny that is the kind of a spill over into am I Deb by blocking the traffic trying to go through and you know when traffic is blocked. Sometimes the least so people get 200 and do what I want to get a 100 to speed up. All those scenes lay still prices on now I really don't do this I'd be pretty major thing that we do is combine discarding them. Now we talk about all these that we do know House and not off. But as John crossing got a warning of will use a Sun. Road. Now we needs to take an oath so we would be looking at that also as we go into the presentation. Now what are we going to do. But before going to what are we going to do you want to talk about the direction not opening on the full. We again opening to see the benefits Hall food and I do that time I spoke about the conflict points, 44 median opening of these niche off the it will this one is just like for me. Divide that we have talked enough since MAY divide us we want to come from that point we'd be mud and it's fun for me down opening for for me p fall a funny divide 80's about 18 that MAY force expanded most likely to be enough to have all 24 over 10 to 6. Call 50 points. So but by the time we taught me we look ahead to next not companies. That 18 conflict point actually drops tool. Fall come 5th point and that was done means what that means is they have only fall plus of having it crashed. We've all that they think the confidence in the fun that they can come in. So we did use that by changing the 4 median opening to do next not opening to make d at Cody don't say fun. Then I know nothing would look into so is the you saw a few times. You time, full of ice a traffic. The Times of safety in Tulsa protection. So by so doing doing able to see the on coming of a coup. I hey bill to make in right judgment before they make a you time so we're looking at that's For me again opening is changed to it. Get donations opening on a situation where they had to make a Utah. We looked his that's the. It crushes the reach of crushes that Christ dropped I hate to be saints. The injury or fatality crash up trying to be dropped by 27 the same guy significance that new week on is it reduced. 25% of the crisis by just you see time. And it's not a bigot it tops up the cost is not is not that be to make that change but you have to be vetted moved to faint. The on the cvr it I'm on the number of 5 crush us in the car, you know. And this about all of it which has that been done. The one that I on Mon.. If they want to see the show's done on us 19 by a perfect sought us out of that's not shiny. Kamal we fund if cockroach and I've had the same conclusion Looking in so what we plan to what we had been courting key. We up close in 9 contests section on hold this into sections the time being close eye based on this tuck and update the snow we just point out we need to close the sono Nestle that nice base on not on traffic analysys and then to see how you soon s on to be able to see if we did these what would be the effect of beats down do don't to be able one nice heavy thing not come so. Gould engineering time. Bush and that would be safe and I've been iffy chef will have been buddy. So we at Christine, media openings. I'm and ice we have talked enough for me again open East now indycar you don't and that also we we'd be standing. I live on. Some Maine and left on me all these the side the one that we actually. As with Bristol Conn plans that means the houthi about 285 at minimum. Then on top of these we. I mean actually it I don't know about 70 team all that for example. It left turn lane that's a region it MAY be one 15. We are able has tended to gain on to get to one of 50 is bad and just keeping it out why 15 feet on some time some diced well we'd 18. Most of those 17 that I I spoke about. Now. The direction I hope means we have to 86. Let's not hope things. Cheney originally in duty point it was that I'm 35 and we have died one doing to sign. Cities up of d. Feedback we got from d a puppy can hear me we do know the going will buy that also as we continue. Cities out of the puppy kidding. So we had a doubt one make a nice to me people MAY get a piece that we have come back to 2. I hope unease. Also. Funded protests from we've got to get something for the pedestrian they have very important entity on our roads. Look at the current bill. This on to study on did cross we had additional cost one thing about the nation of course is that we have to invest and be yeah behavior if you ports and across the way, nobody crosses Davis to continue to cross we ada used to cross so we have to actually how do this for the know what's the that I did a routine but as Frank Rossi we idea crossing so we try to locate this crossings. He to those locations so there I mean I pulled and that we. It down on you, but they're going to be protected with you wonder how we thank you I love the districts across this Lane know we we protect Dan we've sickness. So those lived in locations within the for my section. These so we in times of the Cigna is going to be like Norma. Sig not that we House that people are being used toll Indy car we see the having green raid, I'm general I'll the different in this is that Wayne day I'm going he is going to us green. So he's not on tv somebody presses 8. It is and I we green to yellow than from yellow to write stuff into traffic. From David com Wolf and I we we see kind of a demonstration of the shocking. So let me quickly click on the see the heavy click on that link. This tempest click on timing. MISTER Clerk. This just so demonstrate how is going to be by the time we we finished seats. So we stay on grain. On Tue. Addition activates this Cigna. So tiny yellow, then we did it with Tom Ridge then to distract time walk true. So the app protected up to time. So once halftime crossing then the Sig now we come back. Grant I was a time to bring very cool. We continue to move so he says something that is on the wane date price. It's that we have to do it. Without condition, it means green a tough time. What I call that it shows that we want to improve and discarding to I want to do things that we have brain game to Dakota. As it is up to this point it's so we all I won. Audit court runs. Fund a pedestrian. Yeah great to meet ada the Fresno team that went to meet ada in that case they kind of knew what if we've down do we should I get to eat for a seat. I cross this slip every thing with the hey dso. However I would use as. The ada would be helpful to use process without any fear of 5. I don't know what I was going to walk, I don't know what I would get into the mid 2 of the road. Coffee way we have come by no it will be protected us funds to able to price the the booking on top of that we've got a nice light scene and and really at hand remain block. Crossing. So it got during the day on doing tonight. Yes. Those crossing. We half light that's drive a kind isn't this a paid is shown walking in by did know somebody is looking and they will be able to stop and then I'm also. The median landscaping actually how to credits that. We we met with him last year. And now we side down to pay that we dis cause these we. We've seen on city of Saint Pete. I want to recommend a mission to bring that mean teen was that so how it kind of fun landscaping Indy in the media we have we have because of the tonight we purposely to have concrete. Cities up and down the team we went back to I mean to be Sat. To fall. 100% of the flood and they went back so re deciding meets on to be able to provide it kind of funny and landscaping in the media we both the department and city of Saint p Courtney take to get I rifle at locations we will follow a architect Wolf and the district level of the city that one we've all its and the Party Sun.. Any discussion on the way which I find those locations so that is projects we have going to happen last game that would be constructed have tied to that of time we finish the construction, pardon me is going to be do see a guy that's supposed to be concrete so originally you going to hand up having Some salt. See that last gift for the Jets shiny he came. Talking about the funding. This is federally funded projects. And that core any the he is funded for fiscal year 2023. We'll be able to use the money. The current Senate estimates so about 5 medium for the construction of Safety from Maine to me guess if the improvements. Now let's quickly look until public involvement always what did you have on get the public involved in this project. Yes we do. One thing about have doughty's Hennepin evolving medium haul police if you have closing and indeed an opening for peace must be engaged. So we engage the public. We I couldn't with the city all Saint Peter's book on the eights. On hole, so we if a man had a property can hearing despite called Beach we want him to go to hold a Hearing. We did his son hide great one. We have Wolf the sites on sites on device show one that people cool China ridgeside Johnny aand direct hit to be to the meeting. Do I have to ask questions. In 3rd place in for this Monday's was hit last year me 2021. All right, pretty simple dismayed seeing we sense ounce. Not to ease. So. The. >> Well one that is. The. >> Tenants the business one that is and the rain But but he's seen. The We will with Miley do these. Said first of all 300 to 400 feet, how quiet down the road with Saint Jude and end up on top of that a suspicion that we we say tool indycar saw as a solution why evolved on some apartment that are very close to displace flying bowl we send it out and then also to look to fight again all the work being done to invite Dan for that puppy can mean in her death a day to be able to country votes and so provide at comments we should be a deed. I'm now also on top of that we had but highs it's on that continue about the news. Also have time to present to shun the person you saw was cats online fall, covid you week before we took it down. Dick and is in the gold and says the presentation. They have to back or that they can easily use to assess the and the percent Asian from the letter was sent out. I believe because of the covid because of a the situation in that country during that period we only had 27 people that tend bait. Meeting, how will these we got about 10 coming back. I'll be talking briefly about the comments we received back. An m so talking about the the comments that would use it is just is so merry. We did not receive much Cummings from the from the public. Some action e signify they find that this is a very good. I love of id you up for just that was supposed to have done and after she tent and then song to know once and for me down open needed to get me involved that should be when we first go that come into a lot Lou talks you we have. >> Once the full mean Dan opening I'll have all of the This one would receive written about pretty Cummings on that particular one and that was it is in Dallas would late Sorrels hiding for 29 about form again opening to do they should not need an opening. I know funny that every again hoping that we and we talked to direction. Then that we all 5 questions about functionality of the Utah now we have to respond back. Out West plane today and how we function based on this tuck guy that I've been Don and a pass to see to tell you this is actually safe actually personally I'm it's Dan to mind had a business and according to Bill I want to get out for roughly about 40 men East disclosing d's on the voice out these that wasn't about the ute on how to sit able to go of it to see how beneficial would be the eu time. So so onto his business. We we followed the who see how one of 2 Cummings that actually is to dig is a pretty gets and then definitely we you know something that that would help them. But we need to look wanted to benefit to discuss it with the benefit to the environment. What are we doing what we get and how to beat. Well we'd be defects. I know it's home. That's all the comings wa for me had raised. We contacted them back. You've been why we have do we need to get Reasons why we had green needs on that and fun of up we have 5. We have some of them, I've Association that Cheney can talk to those I was able to Andre seats and address it with Dan does that so so we've got the puppy can gauge during the this sign. About the this can do for the projects so say we start to roughly about to you. Walk us so far a car in the we apply mean to actually mean some meetings by Nestle 5 this Sun. To define a plan for back 6 months. So he's going to be had but highs for Tony days. But the hand of this month and it's going to be lights Gus so if this next one is next in That sets up its construction to be again this winter. That Corning Midi sky do so feis going to take a roughly about 200 days, funded and out why 208 days. We try and not so cross too median openings at a time. So that businesses can see af ha says so yeah business is one thing about the fdot East. Once construction is going on we want to maintain Haas is to businesses. So that he will have any effect on the business. That thing of all deployed get these we. The beef a scene of the and with the maintenance of traffic we didn't show she we they will the part much traffic. Car and made it tough to full on false Pete's is ecs that will be dummies slow because we have been 6 lanes so because of that building construction we will close the 2 inside me to take that walk past next we move is the 2 outs, I mean left open the Dow we see hold that traffic forestry without you know without whole scene and mean and the delay today. So we mostly tonsil demean the ends we we did it and ice white to time Isis tended to be roughly about 2 and a kind knots close more than 5 mean get open and now we're talking of course about 1000 today and I know what does a fundraise feet pond at the Cone it close at a time. I went took an oath now from my section that Dewey out to do some tonight that has to go. So. So was the benefits, you know we have providing on this point it's so one of the things that we doing on the road get these it is going to be is Use provide case if I am by no means fall everybody both the driver. The boy will use us the pedestrians. It can to provide a safe environment photos. We are going to put that we low. Few up a few points deadline be do seemed a crises and according to a differently some of you time being the tech tool. How who might receive I am by no means the fall make in a Utah wants to get used to treat. They are going to see the benefits inmates and the. I'm fine I mean we. We provide a bit of disability at night. That is it's you. All right, thank you so much. We'll go to questions known start with vice chair gathered. Thank you So thank you so Michael nice to hear your presentation good to see you again. Feels like I can't believe it's been a year since we first started talking about this project but I'm so glad that this is finally coming forward. >> I just want to thank you and everyone on your team at fdot to Nevin your team. For on behalf of the for the safety I've heard nothing you know, but praise for the fact that this is going to be I think more people than not are looking forward to the safety improvements. That's probably the one thing I hear more than anything is you know if we could do anything in the district safety walk ability being able to get out and about more. That's probably the thing that I hear the most so thank you for helping us to address that, but we still have a long way to go Evan, but this is a great start. I wanted to ask you know one of the things just because I drive the corridor so much living there. Speed is such an issue along 4th Street and likely because of those far expanses medians so is the speed actually going to be adjusted at all on this stretch of Fort Street or will the speed limit be kept the same. I'm currently to speed limit when it does. The suspect is to going to be kept the same Change in speed on the roads on foot deal tease knots. And is the task now going to look into a hole that things but one thing I know is that because that Courtney we have action me what can a 5th have been you also how we are looking for ways of reducing this p 5th have a meal. Now one thing that the department does Frank to do not is to create a kind of what we called it gets speak. So what's the false that is that there was talk or 18 fyi shows that we stop full seen drive us to actually reduce Das peach. So by force and then to do deaths Pete month time, the fate of values that will be able to drop this seat. Okay, so that really creates the first thing is to create the shows that would make them to do that the s p that walking on that now courting the 5th time they knew so see what we can do to do to speed on 5th Avenue. And if we have time that kind of see be done for streets. And I think too I mean with getting pedestrians used to using these specific crosswalks versus just darting in and out like we see them do now hopefully the use of those will just naturally reduce the speed I was very glad to see. That they are mast that they are you know red yellow green that they're not just a flashing beacon. The 2 that are on 4th Street. That is south of 22th that are just the side flashing beacons are we looking at changing those at all to the same style. I believe that he's a projects on the South's projects. That is doing the same thing okay and just I'm thinking you know if you drive that corridor and you see the rapid flashing beacons south of 22th, but then you have the full mast arms North. I think that could be some confusion for people. That many did you Parliament is we for example a new role we fly scene. The can now is not I'm walking and is supposed to be. So we actually do seem to be moving that I read listen aids. We find the dup industry hybrid n. Cigna iffy breaking the mid-block today MAY block a petition that Cigna so that we can love that, but I believe most likely I don't how did detail on that project to know what it is included, but most likely to be included ok. >> very well MAY have a project coming to change those over but the difference and the reason why it's ok there is because it's only 2 crossing at a time, the speed limits also lower. So it meets the state's current minimum requirements, but when you get up to 3 lanes crossing in 45 miles an hour right they no longer allow you to use that which is a good idea, but they they MAY or MAY not. The okay with keeping them in place for the shorter crossing at slower speeds. Okay, yeah, and certainly you know we've been down the road of defending those devices and certainly I support those but I think consistency for drivers is also something that we should be looking at. Thank you for the extension of the left turn critically important I mean I think we can all if you've driven up and down through their understand the need for that so thank you. Are we going to be you know seeing that the intersections are 55% of the crashes are we going to be looking to make sure that the lights are properly timed. Maybe that might help a little bit because is it is the intersection issue because people are trying to run the light so that they don't have to sit through another one or what seems to be the issue with that. Chen did the 55%, you know he's both the us is not a license signalized intersection so. It's a signalized intersection up into the rough know about. Of that 55 the same. So if we take kalluvila signalized the signalized to be this time most of the time the issue with the signalized intersection ease majority of we have ended. Yeah ended and if you're looking to deny 5th time it that we I don't date and according to only one that can happen. That is not. Also the me and only 2 I think that most most of the East most active all of this too I want to be maybe add to suck my license a section. So. >> The the. In times of different streets did shows that a majority of the Kabul is caused by the not signalized intersection. >> On the u turns now it's a very low number now on the 2.5% of the crash is do we have any concern about creating more crashes with u turns as we I guess cut out the median and then make it to where they have to do the u turn because I'm not worried about inconvenience. I'm more worried about increasing the number of u turn crashes. Now the Utah based on this study actually reduce the number of crises by. Rough me about the is it 20 forgot to defeat the now. I want it it it saints, I'm the severe it by Tony some of the same so of Iraq isi going to be in very good at. Results, very good. Well. I'm all about the lighting. I love the beautification of the medians suggestion council member mountain area yeah just very excited about this project thank you so much on behalf of the residents I we're looking forward to seeing it completed so thank you much. Thank you chair. You councilmember months nary. >> Thank you MADAM Chair and thank you Evan, thank you Michael for the presentation thank you for the modifications that you that you. Have made. I still have a lot of questions 4 the effects of is going to be on our our neighborhoods and businesses and so I that's where my my question Sir going to come from. But can we start with the cross walks when we Matt we talked about. Timing cross walks with the lights on either side of the crosswalks can you. To discuss that explain how that's going to court in nation. Yes, you read them. Yes we we are in me is settled to behave go to court in 8. The anti corrido I'd hear if city have tied that the yeah, this is not about walking the kind of change it. So it's time to it on its we in terms of coordination yet you complicates Fox would be able plus is she So the signalized site and you know freckled so please and in so before. She comes up so that. The crosswalks going to be coordinated or they're not going to be coordinated. It's going to be quick not think you please go in. Yes the crosswalks will be coordinated. The city can work with district 7 traffic operations to get them coordinated. At first, you know the only concern that we have with coordination is pedestrians will push the button and the light want change and I think it's not working and then they lose faith in the crossings. So we've made them able to be coordinated. At first when they start working, I believe the idea is to not coordinate them, but have it ready to go because we don't want the pedestrians to walk up to these crossings press, the button and nothing happened because it's going to take a while to cycle. They could stand there for 30 to 40 seconds until the lights all cycle together. But we have installed modems and all of traffic cabinets so everything will be able to be coordinated. Also we have the ability right now the crossings are you crossed all of 4 straight all at one time. We have made it that you could split the crossings in the future if that is you know better for coronation along the corridor so we put a lot of flexibility into the design of the crossings. So that as we see traffic patterns pedestrian patterns along the corridor things going to change things can be updated. Okay, so. Brings up some other questions you in the presentation that talked about how the crosswalks are going to be 88. A panel. So I would think there be double warning. When it's safe to cross. >> Push buttons just what you have in the city right now so when the button is pushed. Yes, the button does make inaudible noise. However, they are not the audible beacons that speak to you. There was not you know I need identified for that early on it can be converted to that. But right now they're just the honorable be to tell the person who's crossing the road that it is activated. But they are not the ones that are on double countdown. >> I so if you could if you can step closer to my car to know that the great thing that would be the best ever brought up during the design so it was not done that way, but it's something that can easily be done in the future, it's not you know once you have it you're stuck with that so. But that was not brought up in the during our design but we can look at it. Okay. >> Another concern I I have is with the modifications to a lot of these openings. We have a lot of the businesses along that those corridors and a lot of that businesses. People are used to making a left turn right before the business and going and then and I'm concerned about people by passing a business because they don't want to make a a u turn. We sent a mail out too the businesses and ice I requested and received some of the feedback and I think we got feedback from 3 or 4. Businesses but. There's a lot of a mom and pop along the corridor that I didn't hear any sort of feedback on it haven't received any other. From from those businesses. >> There is only one and that was concluded in the in the is this Island's That was included in the in the last 8 outs. So that was the Holy complains that we hide from the business all the computer we have from the business we that's what we Saint but apart from that now. >> Spoke with the Chamber of And they are going to do a survey of of the business is just so that they are aware of some of these changes that are going to be happening but I don't think they're going to get started on on that for for a few weeks. Any concerns Our police and fire departments on these modifications. You know the stretch of roadway does not have any fire access along at the fire station. The Main benefit of this project that casual driver that's going along the whole corr >> Avenue b between first and 4th Street. 415 units. I I notice 54th Avenue areas where the turn the turn Lane has been. Lengthened is that both on the North and south side of the intersection. And they quickly. So I'm trying come find us back to that and Senate. I tie the man but the PRESIDENT Of destitution a shiny contended I'm embarrassed pointing back to data. Yes, he's been extended. So most likely to be on both side that can see on the. Sorry and just trying to. Let me MISS A call by with you on that okay that MAY come from that so be able to get you and that creates a as a bit it member responded back to him that yes his time being I'm Linda time and then. >> On on a residential unit that's going up. There's been a concern in the neighborhood about there's no I apparently there's not a left turn arrow at the intersection of 4th Street and 54th Avenue is is that going to be changed. I mean southbound on fore Street to make a left on westbound on 54th Avenue. I don't I do not believe that there's a change their right right now, if there's additional trips that will cause more left turns and that could be looked at to for a modification and it just that that unit, the 415. Units and in high rises going up there the main. Entry and exit points on 54th Avenue. There's a makes it on. I think it's. Yard or barnhart drive and also one on first Street. But it's going to be a just a major a change in the traffic patterns both on 4th Street in 54th Avenue. And it's another concern that I that I have. >> I e-mail from the owner of Jake on that was concerned about not being able to make a left turn. It seems to me like on that intersection people are going to have to cut through the neighborhood to to get to his business or do you do. Did you address his concerns. And that's that's Southeast Lincoln circle. I'm trying It is a part of what saints out if. He said that we met with him. But I will say that was a gentleman, the business Yeah it's Mon. Yes. To hear hair salon business just not the he s on is that the us alone. Now we we responded back that we we depose me tee off the for this unknown. What about what was said was that because we would be having. They distract crossing and I hear that will not be able. So. To provide what the why question fall and that ice one of the reasons that we provide. And What is the modification going to be on 44th Avenue. Fort Worth. Yes, it. It seemed like in your presentation, it said one thing but then its 44th Avenue going to be an open intersections that could be left that's as it is. They knew that was the one day be quite state that he should not be it for me. We tend to toe direction, not opening. If you change it to what the next not opening a directional yes, the China to quest to 48. Because of the reason the game for the 5 that the they don't want dna vote to be. People will be put into 2 gets so I point using direction not opening. So now requesting that disinclination with the city. Now we provide and they do they should not opening instead off before we get opening. Which we did that we need to tell us why was this man initially e it was 35 for me again hoping that we can tended to come but still phase 6 and o still to direction up made an opening. Then we've got the shot of the have a new that made it 36. I'll just finish up with the the landscaping. Issue and I don't know Michael if you want to address that or or Evan is it going to be a similar situation too. What we currently have now which I I believe fdot put the landscaping in but the city maintains that its its similar type of a number of and yes that's right. Thank you for answering my questions. Thank you Sir. I mean I appreciate involve mates and these you really pull sound that time, thanks so much all right, thank you. Yes, thank you, MADAM Chair. A council member Hannah wits. Thank you so much I try to make it quick and then we've been on this for a while thank you, Evan and Michael. I I I believe we can all agree on increasing safety in that quarter. I take that road all the time in I always picture Frogger. As that cars going much faster. Trying to cross. They say that's exactly what I I will tell you that some of the pictures were 2 lanes it's 3 Lane. Each way I want everyone to be clear we're talking about a 6 lane road from for for that whole stretch. As 2 u turns. I do them all the time as a matter of fact I make a ton person I go to take on monthly as I get older I see Michael there are more I don't know why but I do and I do that you turn and it's fine it's easier for me then figuring out because when you get out of jail time you have to make a right and make the u turn and it's very It doesn't prevent me from going and it's easier for me to time 3 lanes get to the u turn lane and the other thing about making you turns on that on that on the road where there's 3 lanes of traffic is that you have the space to make the u turn it's not like a 2 lane road. So it makes it actually much easier I find that helpful. The other thing was to say thank you for the vegetation, I'm Gifford landscaping and all that I agree that we need to do more about that I've gone to cities where they've made differences in very heavily traveled roads with lots of businesses and I also think it has a calming effect. Streets can promote traffic, calming so I I think where you can promote that increase it I would love to see that. So thank you very much that's all I have to say thank you. Here to city administrator degrees. Thank you so much I just want to take this opportunity on behalf of Mayor Welsh to be. Fdot the Florida Department of Transportation for your spirit of cooperation and your investment in St. Petersburg. I was recently had the pleasure to be in a meeting with their senior leadership and senior design team and was just really impressed with the level of cooperation between MISTER Mori and his team in the Florida Department transportation so I want to thank you for your investment partnership and thank you for being here today. And so after Senate's. All right. Thank you you know when a so they are dating here on the crashes the why behind the what you know 15 over 1500 crashes between 3447 fatalities. 7 at non signalized intersections. And when you consider that we have an alarming rate You know pedestrian incidents, including fatalities in our in our city. This is a welcome change in my in my view. I love the traffic signal pedestrian crosswalks that that is I mean I wish you never understand weak hand of it because it has to go with the speed and the number of lanes that leaves you put those where it makes sense and we do the beacons where they make sense. But this is really going to create such a safe way for people to cross the street and you know I would I would argue that that some businesses will welcome that because it could make someone more likely you know take a walk in and cross the street to patronize a business furthermore when you're dealing with men. You're always going to have a left turn to go straight into someone else's business. But a u turn that's required for someone else's. You know, so no matter where they are it creates you turn situation for some businesses and direct entry for others. So I would say that that's pretty that's pretty fair. You know that some will have it and some won't end. If it's something like a salon or restaurant, it's kind of a destination. People are going to do they're going to do that you turn and the adjustment on the link forget we call it. >> Yes the storage, yeah that's for me often is like food that is that's a good way to put it adjusting that to make that more appropriate I think is going make that easier as well. If the if the traffic signal slow things down a little bit. If. Are you know creating safer opportunities for people to cross the street and you know for people that to drive safely and still be able to access everything they've always been able to access and I think we're in definitely moving in the right direction and there's nothing and there's no louder message then that crash data to tell us that this is the right thing to do so thank you for that. Thank you much. Thanks so much Ari and we look forward to hearing updates from you as things go along. I I certainly welcome any. Any calls in any feedback from residents and businesses as well and. And as we move forward with this and make sure that done that it stays on time and >> we just appreciate everything that you do and the way that you are able to work with Evan and his team. So efficiently. Thanks so much we appreciate the cooperation of the county city come soon and then for all your interest in days off within 12 months in all these reality that the seats and then it violates thanks so much all right, thank you for joining us today. Thank you Mike. Alright council members who are going Go ahead now to our public hearings. >> And we will begin with item e e one. Which is providing for alcoholic beverages impression like this to prep for an event on JULY 9, worried that MADAME Clark. Those ordinance 5, 0, 7, dash age an ordinance providing for the sales service dispensing position and or consumption of alcoholic beverages in a portion of Lake Vista Park for an event to be held on JULY 9th. 2022 and providing an effective date we have no cards for this item and chair, >> and we have city staff available for any questions. Good morning, everyone Lynn Gordon St. Petersburg some Recreation programs manager over co sponsored events. I just mention that this event was taken to for the co sponsored events I believe. >> Which range in that back in APRIL I believe it was this is a returning event like this to it's been there since 2018 I believe we did take a break in. 2000 2021 due to the pandemic so it is now returning to like this to and we work closely with the center as we could have summer camp going on we notified the neighborhood as well of the event coming up. We are I'm happy to answer any questions that anyone has. >> The move for approval second. All right thank you. We have a motion is second to approve item p one. >> Saying that there's no request for discussion with the correct please open the machine for voting. Council members please enter your votes. In the present Council members have voted for the clerk please telling announced the votes. >> I'm sure the motion to approve and deny the one passes unanimous to the council member with the moment being absent. Thank you thank is going to you. Next item is that a me too. Good morning MISS As an entity. Good morning. To propose amendments 5, 0, 8 dash h an ordinance of the city of St. Petersburg Florida amending chapter 12 of the city code related fees, temporarily reducing the fees collected by the construction services division set forth in section 12 days, 6. Important in order to ensure compliance with the Florida building code and providing an effective date we have no part item. >> Good morning Elizabeth Abernethy director of planning and development services. We presented on the a couple of times it be ft I do have a presentation of Council would like to see it. Or I'm available for questions that you're at your pleasure. Move approval, second. All right thank you. We have a motion a second to approve item e 2. Seeing there in a request for a discussion with the current place open the machine for voting. Council members please enter your votes. And then our present council members have voted with the correct he's telling announced the votes. >> I'm sure the motion to approve or deny the 2 passes unanimously councilmember with the ball moving absent. Thank you. As public hearing item for today's item e 3. Rose ordinance 5, 0, 6, dash 8 an ordinance of the city of St. Petersburg Florida approving in adopting the downtown waterfront master plan, 2022 review and update report as an addendum to the downtown waterfront master plan in accordance with section one 0, 2, g of the city charter and section 16.0 8 well, the city code and providing an effective date with no car to the side. Reid thank you to him. >> No Kurds. Presentation thank you we have a motion in a second to approve item e 3. And saying that they're in a request for discussion with the clerk please zip in the machine for voting. Council members say the into votes. And then our council members a vote the clerk please telling announced dates. MADAM Chair, the motion to approve and deny the 3 cancers union. All right, thank you. Thank you very much. And at this time I wanted to check with our city attorney to see for ready for legalizing for today. Excellent so we will go to our. So we go item for the day item I one. Warning everybody good morning. >> All right I'm here today on a legal matter this is a Williams is a workers compensation washout settlement. Give you some brief background on this MISTER Williams is a firefighter who's 49 years of age has been working for the city for about 14 years. This is a cardiac presumption matter. Had a heart attack on the job in under the presumption under state law. That is a compensatory workers compensation issue. After this case has worked up by Council end it appears that there is no way around the presumption issue in this. Accordingly if this thing goes forward 3rd and he is able to obtain permanent total disability, the exposure on this is is significant in multiple hundreds of thousands of dollars figures. In addition. There will be future bills do Essentially this case has been resolved for $75,000 pending City Council approval, this is a full settlement. Includes attorneys fees costs and he will be suffering from the city at that wind any exposure that the city has so what we're looking for If the so inclined. MISTER Approve the settlement for 75,004 people while that was found. I know you're excited haha meant that we have a motion and a second to approve this item saying that there's no request for discussion with the clerk please open the machine for voting. Council members please enter your votes. The clerk please telling announced the votes. We have a motion and is one passes unanimously. >> All right, thank you and thank you very We will go back to reports now and resume our regularly scheduled programming. I asked Our son runner bus rapid transit fda's needed left. >> Good morning again ever Jen parking management director I'm going to give a brief introduction and then hand the microphone and the thank you covertly presentation controller over to object they'll have a Shaq is the director of project management for and lead for construction on the brt project among the staff would like to thank Tom Whalen insurance in our department for all their work over the many years on this project and speaking of years. It is remarkable to think that the city Pinellas County mpo and psta started working on this project to bring it to reality a full 20 years ago. And as you know, we'll hear more about today. It's finally almost here. Your backup material provided several key. Details and dates regarding the history of how we got to where we are today. First they're staying the course and delivering on the vision I'd like to thank psta for listening to the city's repeated requests over the years to place the first premium transit service and the Tampa Bay area right here in St. Petersburg and while the memo went through many details of the long history, today's presentation is not about the past. It's about the PRESIDENT And the exciting future. Construction has certainly been a tough process from supply chain challenges resulting in some delays. The orange barrels arrow boards Lane closures and first time most people probably ever seen a letter read Lane. I'd like to thank the public and all of our elected officials for your patience as we only have a few months ago before construction will be finished the service will be open. With that I'll turn over admission. All right, thank you and just as a friendly reminder. We do try to keep our presentations to 10 minutes or less so if you could help us be a little efficient there be awesome. Absolutely a good morning. MADAM Chair members of the council, I've checked now and I'll quickly go through the on the sun runner project many if you are familiar with the project it said rapid transit project a 10.3 miles long connecting the cities of St. Petersburg South Pasadena on Saint Pete Beach into and travel times that we're looking at from downtown Saint Pete to say the beach is about 35 minutes compared to our regular bus service. It takes about 55 minutes, so it's a improvement in travel times for our riders. Some of the features that the project will have bus and turn lanes those of those red lanes that Evan just a mention in his introduction about 2 thirds of the route will have red colored lanes and then we'll also have 30 uniquely branded station platforms all along the route. With the real time bus arrival information for our writers so they know when the next bus is a is coming. Thanks to the city of St. Petersburg we're also going to be including artwork at many of the stations located within the city limits. And we'll be using our hybrid electric for the sun runner route. I key element of the us of the operations will be the use of transit signal priority, but the buses will interact with the traffic signals along the to give it a little bit of priorities. It can stay on schedule. And then we'll also be incorporating bike racks that are actually incite the bus as opposed to outside two's really speed up the boarding and alighting further for for our riders and then the off-court fare collection which would be completely cashless will be part of This project as well and I'll talk a little bit about the those 2 items. So as Evan mentioned this has been a long time coming. We identified this as a future premium transportation route in 2003. It was in the m p o's long-range transportation plan in 35. At that time we had looked at 3 potential options to terminate this route. In the Gulf of Mexico side one was the Madeira Beach one was going to be in a treasure Island and then 3rd one was going to be in Saint Pete Beach and based on ridership potential economic development benefit and just the overall benefits to our riders. Went forward with the Saint Pete Beach a for for implementation. We applied for federal funding back in 35. I will say that's an extremely competitive program to get federal to the limited dollars that they have that they use for funding projects like like rail streetcar and rapid transit projects all over the country. Well in a 2020. We were a very fortunate to get a 20 almost $22 million from the federal transit administration. As part of this a highly competitive program. We were one of the first and currently still the only project in the Tampa Bay region that has received secured this funding. Through the federal government. We've also had partnerships with the Florida Department of Transportation who funded a quarter of the funding, 10 and a half million and then as the city of St. Petersburg and psta contributed the rest of the funding for this project. So a partnership with the city wasn't just limited to million that we received from the city. The city has also contributed towards the art that I had for the stations, a $750,000 that this Council had approved was also included as part of the project and then the city also received a separate earmark from the federal to enhance connections between Central Avenue and the stations along first Avenue North and south. Along the sun run a corridor and those that construction has been going on in conjunction with our son running construction. Also and then city Evan and Sheryl and their staff have been very diligent in providing us with reviews on designs own construction oversight, even assisting us with permitting efforts and then we've also partnered with dam and other departments on the community and stakeholder outreach, particularly the various neighborhoods, various business groups and businesses all along the corridor that could be affected by by this project. So one of the key off this project is bus and turn lanes all the other red colored lanes and what those Dew are essentially they will provide priority to buses. Turning traffic and also use those and then we also are going to have emergency vehicles, those first responders use emergency vehicles are the athletes. These are going to be paved with the red pigment and asphalt and then all along the route with those lanes are we'll have a waste site signage directing motorists on how those lanes can be are not used all along the route. I'm here just a few photos off what The pigmented asphalt looks one foot on the right is on Pasadena Avenue. The one on the left is on first Avenue South. So our crew is currently in the process of installing these lanes and the intent is that our buses can begin testing. These lanes as as soon as those lanes are paved. We're also using are regular buses are Central Avenue trolley and but buses due to use these lanes as well just so they can get a sense of how bus lanes are intended. So the intent here is also that the lane restrictions will begin as soon as read that right asphalt is placed and those pavement have been in place. We expect all of this work to be completed by this And the motorists and the public will see. The 2 thirds of the route all paper with a red pigment that asphalt along the route. Now understanding that this is a new concept here in Tampa Region. We are coordinating with city of Saint Police Department and Pinellas County Sheriff's office to really focus more on education and outreach for for these lanes less so much on enforcement but more on education more on how let folks know on what to do with those red a red pigment and lanes we've created some materials some just to inform the public on what to do when you when you see one lane when you see that plane and what types of movements are allowed. When you're on that on that plane. >> So how quickly go through some of the construction a lot of the construction is focused on first Avenue North and South. You might have seen will be called floating stations on first Avenue South and We've started to handrails on those platforms in some locations the vault installed shelters and then and Nick a couple of locations able to install some a safe pedestrian crosswalks and including rf bees to let folks be able to cross first Avenue North and South understanding that you traffic move does move pretty fast on those on those roadways are going to make sure that we have all the tools in place to get people back and forth between the in a safe manner. That's what you see here is on station I for 70 South and 40th Street. This location where actually installing a new traffic signal along with the station. Again for the purpose making sure that the pedestrians and traffic can move safely and people can cross the street safely whether they're coming to the station or they're just crossing the street. Moving into at 8 Street across from this this station was right next to the Pinellas trail. There's also a bike share Right here so it provides a really good synergy between bikeshare and bus transfers and then all the amenities that this area has. And then at a 5th Street north on first Avenue Any if you were at the event last year in DECEMBER. When we unveil the complete with the artwork and glass panels. We also coordinated this event with the with the developer who is proposing a mixed use development right across from this station. So again great synergies with the transit oriented development and the station right for for riders to use. I mention the bike that we've designed to so that people can actually bring their bikes inside the bus. As opposed outside the bus. We've actually designed these bike racks and working with the city staff city's transportation staff. So that it's easier to use. And you can century bring your bikes and and the the front wheel off the cuff your bike can go into that slot in the yellow. Handle and then it essentially pulls the vertically so that the bike can be secured. Easily secured essentially and then people can take the bikes in and Safely as they exit the bus. So again we've also created some videos on how to use these bike racks in a safe manner and we're putting it out on social media. Let folks know on how how to use these bike rack that we're really excited about this a future for the project. As far as upcoming construction is bus Lane installation will continue this month. And the station and traffic signal construction will will continue as well working with the city staff. We're also going to be spending a lot of time with driver training. Taking those sun runner buses out. But all the drivers that were recruiting and then working with the and Pinellas counties traffic staff on those signal testing the transit transit signal priority that I noted all in all we are excited to have this project open by SEPTEMBER of 2022. Date is to be finalized so I we showed to mention that when we do get to a date operating hours are going to be from 06:00am to midnight. And we do plan on staying fair free until MARCH of next year. And then below transition to more of a cashless fair system. After MARCH of next year with our Flamingo app that that people can download to be able to go in and out and then For a project of this magnitude communication is really important and for that reason be have created a dedicated construction website to inform the public about the way the construction is going on so that people can ask questions they can post comments and then we can reach out to the public. In there are any issues that we can address so with that I am happy to take any questions I just wanted to say one last thing that. Orange barrels and cones they excite me because that means progress and that's construction where we actually implementing. Projects so I I'm really grateful for the city and their partnership as well as our public for the patients they've shown thus far thank you. Thank you so This is a great update. We will go questions and for stuff council on to marry. Thank you MADAM Chair, thank you for the presentations could get to see again. You estimated 4500 riders a day and then the backup material, it's at 4,000 riders a day are you was that. A change to rethink the ridership is going to be lowered now then. It was forecast to be. Yeah, I thank you council member we we had anticipated between riders a day. We we do need to stay consistent in what we So I mean approximately we've we've always said about 4 between 4 4500 riders a day that's that's what we're projecting so far which is still quite significantly higher than our current bus routes that uses the same corridor where we get about Writers today. >> Worse than your of your presentation you you talked about being fair free until MARCH. And so MARCH of next year would we go straight to the full fare. That's correct. We do have some fair options where we have full fair and then we also have reduced fare certain de demographics. Right single ride costs $2 and $0.25 which is the same on all are bus service. And that's what the proposed to have for this. >> And I appreciate the. >> how law enforcement is going to. More of a educational type mode initially. But whenever that is over do we have an idea of what sort of find somebody would get if they're operating in a in one of the flames. Yeah, that that's a great We actually have those discussions with the law enforcement as well to understand what the next steps would be and what we discussed was let's see how what kind of questions they if they get from the community is the levels of enforcements staying the same coming down how people are actually using those bath lanes so we've the if not quite determined a timeframe on when we sort of switch over from education to enforcement too MAY potentially citation but really it's it's more off how that what the compliance rate has through the education efforts. >> Like to know the answer like what the fine is going when a beacon and you get that for me. Who's responsible for maintaining the stations have already noticed some graffiti on some of the stations is that a psta responsibility or city. It is a psta responsibility so we are working with our contractor to make sure that the graffiti taken care off as soon as as noticed we have seen a few instances where graffiti has been so we've been working with our contractor and then once the construction is done then psta formally accepts the the those stations and it would be our responsibility for the upkeep. >> In my last. Questions or on the central av Avenue trolley which we're going to operate at the same time. And in the in the backup material. It doesn't really talk about the effects of the central Avenue. Trolley but I would think if we're adding. This service that it's going to affect. The trolley can you give me a little background. On how much the city supports the central Avenue trolley and you know help how that's going to be affected. Right as far as the service for Central Avenue trolley currently we operate the trolley every 20 minutes. And that's something we also would want to evaluate whether it's the right amount of service when the sun runner service starts. We don't we don't want too much out there either so that's something we're looking to value wait to see if maybe we can scale back some of the service, the head ways on the central Avenue trolley potentially to 30 minutes. And then we would work with the city within and his team on what that would mean in terms of funding contributions from the city and even if you want to talk about funding contributions. Historically the city has provided approximately $75,000 per year to buy down the fair in the downtown core for the Central Avenue trolley moving forward we can evaluate whether that needs to continue. But the center stops are so infrequent that we expect the central Avenue trolley will be continue to be something that the community wants to see the businesses along Central Avenue want to see. So I'm I'm hopeful and expect any changes to the center of a neat really might be going from like 20 minute had waste a 30 minute headway something like that we would not want to eliminate Central Avenue trolley it's then there was recently a 3rd highest ridership for all of psta and that's likely to drop but it's still I would imagine being in the top half and so we would not want to get rid of it. Thank you for answering my questions. Thank you MADAM Chair. All right. Thank you councilmember gergis thank you chair. I certainly don't want to harp on the negatives. But I would just echo what councilmember Mike Perry said about some of the vandalism and graffiti I know there's been some graffiti at the stop 58th and First Avenue South and it's been there. It's been there a couple of weeks. I bet at this point I think they're just trying to cover it with something like. So I would just I would echo that I'm excited for this to to get there. I mean obviously I wasn't a part of this process leading up to it but I I do think a lot of our neighborhoods are to have it done be to try to get from the West Side of Saint Pete to the side of Saint Pete with significant more use and not have to worry about parking some very I didn't want to and not a negative. So very excited to get this done thank you for the update. I just want to echo echo that because I know that has happened a couple of times I think just that that station so but I appreciate the presentation, thanks so much. Thank you chair. All right, thank you and some good points have been brought up it's good to know that be handling any. Vandalism or graffiti issues. I know that this city has a standard that staff follows 4. Removing graffit

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