Planning Commission Regular Meeting

COUNCIL: THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE NOVEMBER 20, TH 2024, CITY OF LINCOLN COUNCIL: REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION. BEFORE I ASK FOR A ROLL CALL. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT IN HONOR OF COUNCILMAN BILL LORDSON, WHO WE LOST JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO. COUNCIL: AND I HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR HIM. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. MAY MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL: COMMISSIONER ERIC JOHNSON, HERE, COMMISSIONER JERRY JOHNSON, HERE COMMISSIONER MCKINNEY, HERE COMMISSIONER REEDY, HERE, VICE CHAIRMAN GILBERT HERE. COUNCIL: CHAIR HUTCHINSON HERE, AND COMMISSIONER EKLUND IS NOT HERE. COUNCIL: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL: THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS. COUNCIL: THERE SHE IS, IS THE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK INCOMING COUNCIL: COUNCIL, MEMBER JOHN REEDY, TO LEAD US COUNCIL: TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA COUNCIL: AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. COUNCIL: BEFORE WE GO FURTHER. ARE THERE ANY AGENDA MODIFICATIONS? COUNCIL: HEARING NONE? THANK YOU. THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS PUBLIC COMMENT ON NON AGENDA ITEMS WITHIN THE SUBJECT MATTER. JURISDICTION OF THE COMMISSION COUNCIL: AND SECRETARY. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER STATEMENTS? YES, I HAVE COUNCIL: NOBODY ONLINE 1ST OF ALL, AND THEN CARDS THAT I RECEIVE DAVID LOCKWOOD. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, IF THEY CAN COME UP INTO THE PODIUM. COUNCIL: HELLO, WELCOME! COUNCIL: I'M DAVE LOCKWOOD. I FUN. COUNCIL: THERE WE GO. HELLO! MY NAME IS DAVID LOCKWOOD. I WANT TO THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO'S ON THIS BOARD. I RECOGNIZE THAT MANY OF YOU ARE VOLUNTEERS, AND OR ONLY HERE WITH A STIPEND, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. COUNCIL: MY REASON IN BEING HERE TONIGHT IS TO VOICE A GENERAL CONCERN IN SOME OF THE WAY THAT THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE, IN HOPES THAT PROCESSES CAN BE FIXED, MOVING FORWARD, AS WELL AS TO SPEAK TO SPECIFIC, TO SEEK SPECIFIC HELP AGAINST THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND FINANCIAL IMPACT. HAPPENING TO MYSELF AND MY NEIGHBORS BY THE WILDWOOD PULTE HOMES DEVELOPMENT. COUNCIL: THE DRAW OF LINCOLN FOR MANY FAMILIES, AND SO MANY HAVE MOVED. HERE IS THE SMALLER TOWN FEEL SOMEWHAT CLOSE TO AMENITIES. COUNCIL: BUT WITHOUT ALL THE BIG CITY PROBLEMS CAUSED BY OVERPOPULATION WITH EVERY NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROVED. A BIT OF THAT DRAW IS LOST. COUNCIL: THE CURRENT EXPERIENCE THAT MY NEIGHBORS AND I ARE HAVING ON THE THE WEST PART OF 1ST STREET IS AS FOLLOWS. COUNCIL: WE'VE BEEN TOLD CONFLICTING THINGS OVER THE YEARS BY CITY EMPLOYEES WHEN TRYING TO RESEARCH WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE LAND. LESS THAN ONE YEAR AGO I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WAS NO SPECIFIC APPLICATION ON FILE FOR THE SPACE. ANY DEVELOPMENT WOULD LIKELY BE MORE THAN 5 YEARS AWAY. COUNCIL: THE CITY'S WEBSITE AT THE TIME DID NOT SHOW THAT THERE WAS ANYTHING HAPPENING. THE ARCGIS WEBSITE COUNCIL: OR IT DIDN'T SHOW THERE WAS ANYTHING UPDATED. IT SHOWED ONE SPECIFIC THING. FROM A LONG TIME AGO RECENT CONSTRUCTION BEGAN RIGHT BEHIND OUR HOMES WITH NO NOTICE TO US, AND UPON INVESTIGATING IT WE LEARNED THAT MOSTLY TWO-STORY HOMES WILL BE BUILT RIGHT BEHIND OUR HOMES, IMPACTING MUCH OF OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES. COUNCIL: CURRENT RESIDENTS ARE BEING TOLD. WE HAVE NO REAL SAY IN THE AESTHETICS OF FENCES THAT WILL BE GOING UP. THEY'RE GOING TO BE RAISING THE GRADING 2 TO 3 FEET AND THEN BUILDING 6 FOOT FENCES ON TOP OF THAT. COUNCIL: IT'S GOING TO DRASTICALLY IMPACT THE USABILITY OF OUR AND THE THE VISUALS OF OUR OF OUR LOTS. COUNCIL: GRADING PLANS DON'T SEEM TO ACCOUNT FOR CURRENT LOTS, AND OUR DRAINAGE THAT GOES IN THAT DIRECTION. COUNCIL: FINDING OUT THAT COMMENT ABOUT ANY OF THIS TO TRY AND MAKE ANY IMPACT WAS 6 YEARS AGO. MANY OF US HAVE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD 5 YEARS, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN BUILDING IS STARTING AND TRYING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, FINDING OUT THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ANY COUNCIL: MUCH MUCH TO DO ABOUT IT. COUNCIL: THE PARKS PLAN IN THIS COMMUNITY ARE TINY, AND THEY'RE UP AGAINST FREEWAY WALLS, MAKING IT BOTH UNDESIRABLE TO USE. AND IF THERE, EVEN IF THERE IS SPACE FOR ANYTHING BEYOND JUST GRASS. COUNCIL: IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO A FREEWAY. I DON'T THINK KIDS SHOULD BE PLAYING IN A PARK UP AGAINST FREEWAY, WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE CAR EXHAUST. COUNCIL: I DO TRUST THAT ALL OF YOU ON THIS BOARD ARE HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE GOAL OF CONTINUING TO MAKE LINCOLN AN AMAZING PLACE TO LIVE, WHICH IT IS. IT HAS BEEN COUNCIL: AND I, AND YOU VIEW YOUR ROLE AS ONE TO CARE FOR AND PROTECT OUR CURRENT RESIDENTS. I BELIEVE THAT ABOUT YOU ALL. COUNCIL: THE WAY THIS IS GOING DOWN IT FEELS TO THOSE OF US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THIS IS JUST COUNCIL: CATERING TO DEVELOPERS AND CITY REVENUE RATHER THAN PRIORITIZING THE THE NEEDS OF THOSE IN THE IN THE COMMUNITY. COUNCIL: SO I SEEK YOUR HELP FOR MY SAKE AND MY NEIGHBOR'S SAKE. COUNCIL: AS WELL AS FOR ANY FUTURE OCCURRENCES OF THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT I FEAR WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. COUNCIL: I BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT COULD HAPPEN IS IMPROVEMENTS TO THE WAY THAT HOMEOWNERS ARE NOTIFIED WHEN A PROJECT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR PROPERTY. COUNCIL: PUBLIC NOTICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UNFORTUNATELY, THE TIME OF 3 MIN IS UP. COUNCIL: THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, AND I MAY I FINISH MY PARAGRAPH? AT LEAST 2 SENTENCES. COUNCIL: I JUST WANT TO ASK FOR YOUR HELP. I THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND I WANT HELP BOTH FOR US. RECOGNIZING THAT OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR HOMES ARE BEING IMPACTED BY THIS, AND WE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF THIS. AND I ASK THAT CHANGES COULD BE MADE SO THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. COUNCIL: THANK YOU AND YOU SAID WE HAD A SECOND ONE COUNCIL: CHAIR, HUTTISON. I DO HAVE ANOTHER CARD. HOWEVER, THE SUBJECT IS ON. ITEM 8 C. AND 8 E. COUNCIL: IT'S TO YOUR DISCRETION THEY ARE BOTH CONSENT ITEMS. SO NORMALLY THE CONSENT. COUNCIL: AGENDA. EXCUSE ME, THE CONSENT. CALENDAR IS PASSED WITH ONE MOTION, AND WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS OR OPEN COMMENTS UNLESS SOMETHING IS IS REQUESTED COUNCIL: TO BE MOVED. COUNCIL: COMMISSIONER GILBERT, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? COUNCIL: YES, IF THERE'S SOMEBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM. I WILL PULL IT FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR. COUNCIL: SO THEY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION ON IT. IF THAT'S COUNCIL: IN AGREEMENT WITH THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS. COUNCIL: OF COURSE. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO IT'S GOING TO BE ITEM 8 C AND 8 E. COUNCIL: I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CARDS. COUNCIL: ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC? COUNCIL: COMMENTS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA? COUNCIL: MAYBE WE SHOULD INFORM THE PERSON THAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE COMMENTS COUNCIL: WHEN WE OPEN UP THAT AGENDA. ITEM. COUNCIL: YEAH, ALTHOUGH, AS I SAY, IT IS COUNCIL: WELL THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROPER PROTOCOL. SO THANK YOU. AND, AS I SAY, WE WILL PULL THAT, PULL THOSE 2 ITEMS FROM THE CONSENT COUNCIL: AGREEMENT, AND WE WILL DISCUSS THE THE ISSUES AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME. OKAY. COUNCIL: BUT THANK YOU FOR THE THE PRIOR SPEAKER. COUNCIL: THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS INFORMATIONAL. ITEMS FROM STAFF. COUNCIL: ARE THERE ANY INFORMATIONAL ITEMS. YEAH. JUST WANTED TO REPORT OUT ON LAST TUESDAY WAS A BIG DAY, WAS IT? WEDNESDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, WEDNESDAY, DOUBLE HEADER MEETING? 10 AM. STAKEHOLDER MEETING IN THIS ROOM AND 6 PM. COMMUNITY-WIDE WORKSHOP. COUNCIL: BOTH WERE WELL ATTENDED, AND THERE WAS VERY ENTHUSIASTIC PARTICIPATION AND EXCHANGE OF IDEAS. IT REALLY JUST WAS AN INTRO TO THE PROJECT. COUNCIL: SO WE WERE EXCITED ABOUT GETTING THAT LAUNCHED. COUNCIL: AND WE WILL BE HAVING A DECEMBER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. COUNCIL: UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WAS A ERROR ON THE GOLD COUNTRY MEDIA, AND THE PROJECT DIDN'T GET POSTED THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HEARD TONIGHT. SO COUNCIL: TO ACCOMMODATE THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING TO TO HAVE THAT HEARING. AND THEN WITH THAT, I THINK FOR JANUARY, WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND CANCEL THE JANUARY MEETING THE FIRST, ST THE 3RD WEDNESDAY OF JANUARY IS LITERALLY THE 15.TH SO IT'S A PRETTY TIGHT TURNAROUND AFTER THE FIRST, ST SO WE CAN TAKE A BREAK THERE, AND THAT WILL SET US UP WELL FOR FEBRUARY. COUNCIL: I HAVE TO THANK YOU. 2 ITEMS TO JUST FYI COMMISSION ON DECEMBER 4, TH LAFCO IS CONDUCTING THE VILLAGE. 5. A SPECIFIC PLAN ANNEXATION HEARING COUNCIL: SO PREVIOUSLY THE ENTIRE VILLAGE 5 FAILED LAST YEAR. COUNCIL: SO WE DID. A REDRAW RESTART AND VILLAGE 5. A PORTION SMALLER PORTION OF VILLAGE 5 IS NOW AGENDIZED COUNCIL: NEXT MONTH. COUNCIL: SO DECEMBER 4, TH YEAH. SPECIAL MEETING AT 4 O'CLOCK IN AUBURN. COUNCIL: PASTOR, COUNTY BOARD AND SUPERVISORS CHAMBERS. SO COUNCIL: SO THAT'S EXCITING FOR US, BECAUSE IT'S IT'LL BRING FORTH. COUNCIL: YOU KNOW. A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES, ECONOMIC HOUSING AND WHATNOT. SO COUNCIL: SO LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THAT APPROVED OFFICIALLY, HOPEFULLY. COUNCIL: ONE LAST ITEM, COUNCIL: WE KNOW ABOUT THE THE AT AND T. SAGA RIGHT. SO THE DESIGN REVIEW PERMIT WAS APPROVED BY OUR COMMISSION COUNCIL: FOR FOLLOWING THAT APPROVAL, THEIR EFFORT TO TO APPEAL THEIR CUP AT THE WATER TOWER. COUNCIL: WHICH YOUR ACCOUNT YOUR COMMISSION DENIED. COUNCIL: IT WAS WITHDRAWN, BECAUSE ONCE THE DESIGNER VIEW WAS WAS INKED. COUNCIL: BASICALLY THAT TOOK THE THE THE WATER TOWER COUNCIL: OUT OF THE OUT OF THE COMMITTEE, OUT OF THE EQUATION. BASICALLY, THEY APPEALED YOUR YOUR DENIAL BACK IN MAY. COUNCIL: SO WE GOT PAUSED UNTIL WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN REVIEW, SO COUNCIL: THAT GOT APPROVED BY YOUR COMMISSION. AND THEN NOW APPEALS WERE DRAWN FROM THE CEP. SO NOW WE'RE DONE AND OVER WITH COUNCIL: FROM THE WATER TOWER. SO WE WERE ABLE TO PRESERVE THAT THE WAY IT IS. SO COUNCIL: JUST UPDATE ON FOR YOU GUYS. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH THE NEXT ITEM ON THE YES. COUNCIL: SORRY THEY SHOULD BE ON THE THE WEBSITE. OH, NO, THEY ARE NOT. THEY ARE NOT. THEY WERE NOT RECORDED MEETINGS. NO, YEAH, NO. COUNCIL: THE THE MEETING AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING WAS INTERACTIVE. COUNCIL: AND ALL THE TELEVISIONS IN DOWNSTAIRS WERE USED FOR COUNCIL: THERE WERE STATIONS WHERE YOU WOULD GO TO THAT TELEVISION AND INPUT A PIN ONTO GOOGLE EARTH. COUNCIL: AND THEN THE STAFF WAS TAKING NOTES ON TO WHAT YOU LIKED ABOUT THAT LOCATION. SO ONE WAS FOCUSED ON LINCOLN, AND ONE WAS FOCUSED ON OUTSIDE LINCOLN AND THEN ON THE 3RD AREA, WHERE THERE WERE TELEVISION OR COMPUTERS. THAT WAS A SURVEY. COUNCIL: SO IT WAS REALLY AN INTERACTIVE MEETING. SO THERE WAS NO ZOOMING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE. COUNCIL: ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS DISCLOSURE OF ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION. COUNCIL: DO WE HAVE ANY? COUNCIL: SEEING? NONE? THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM I GUESS I HAVE SOMETHING ALL RIGHT. I SHOULD SHOULD REPORT. COUNCIL: I WAS APPROACHED, AND THEN WAS NOMINATED AND ELECTED TO THE SIERRA COLLEGE. COUNCIL: WELL, THERE'S A LITTLE HISTORY. THEY THEY SOLD 300 AND COUNCIL: 20 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF BONDS, AND THEY HAVE A A COUNCIL: BOARD THAT REVIEWS ALL THEIR THEIR EXPENDITURES. COUNCIL: AND I WAS APPROACHED IF I COULD JOIN COUNCIL: THAT, AND I SAID YES, AND THEY VOTED ME IN. SO I'LL BE ATTENDING MY 1ST MEETING THIS MONTH. COUNCIL: AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW ABOUT MY INVOLVEMENT IN THAT. COUNCIL: EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY DIRECTLY. COUNCIL: THERE! THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO I WILL BE WORKING WITH. COUNCIL: I GUESS, BOTH ON THE BOARD AND ON OUR SUB BOARD. THAT COULD CAUSE SOME KIND OF CONVERSATIONS COUNCIL: THAT MIGHT INVOLVE BUSINESS IN LINCOLN, SO I'LL DO MY BEST COUNCIL: TO SHARE. WHEN THAT COMES UP, I'LL SHARE IT WITH ALL OF YOU. SO YOU'RE AWARE WHAT'S GOING ON. COUNCIL: SO I'M REACHING INTO THE FUTURE A LITTLE. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. COUNCIL: THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CONSENT COUNCIL: CALENDAR. ALL MATTERS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE BUSINESS, AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THE OF THESE ITEMS, UNLESS THE REQUEST TO REMOVE A SPECIFIC ITEM FOR SEPARATE ACTION IS RECEIVED, AND WE DO HAVE THAT REQUEST COUNCIL: FOR 2 ITEMS. ITEM COUNCIL: 8 C. AND 8 EI HAVE IT CORRECTLY. THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT IS ON THE CARD. CORRECT? YES. AND SO THOSE OF YOU WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT WHEN WE ADDRESS IT. YOU MAY CERTAINLY DO THAT, AND WE WILL INVITE YOU TO TO SPEAK COUNCIL: DO ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT I HAVE NOT MENTIONED. I THINK WE OUGHT TO REMOVE ALL 3. I HAVE SOME COMMENTS THAT WOULD DEAL WITH ALL 3. SO COUNCIL: THERE WERE 4 OF YEAH. COUNCIL: NO, NOT THE MINUTES. I'M SORRY. YEAH, NOT THE JUST, NOT THE MINUTES. OKAY AS WELL. SO WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE 8 C, 8 D. AND 8 COUNCIL: E, ALL RIGHT. OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT THEY WE APPROVE. ITEMS 8 A AND B SO MOVED. COUNCIL: WE HAVE A SECOND SECOND, ALL RIGHT, AND MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? I'M SORRY. WHO'S SECOND? COUNCIL: THAT WAS ME? THANK YOU. COUNCIL: ROLL CALL, OR WOULD YOU LIKE A VOICE CALL. COUNCIL: I HAVE TO ABSTAIN ON THE ITEM 8 B. AS I DID NOT ATTEND THE OCTOBER MEETING, AND SO I THINK WE CAN DO IT BY A VOICE WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A SPECIFIC ROLL CALL IN THIS INSTANCE. AWESOME, ALL IN BEAVER. AYE. COUNCIL: AYE, ANY OPPOSED MOTION PASSES. COUNCIL: OH, AND MY ABSTENTION. YES, YOUR ABSTENTION FOR OCTOBER, MAYBE. COUNCIL: THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCIL: ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM, THEN, IS GOING TO BE 8 C. COUNCIL: WHICH IS THE LIBERTY AT LINCOLN VILLAGE. 3. MARRIAGE HOME, A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND PERMIT DESIGN. REVIEW APPLICATION FOR 99 SINGLE FAMILY, NEW HOMES IN VILLAGE 3 COUNCIL: OF THE LIBERTY AT LINCOLN, MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY, AND THE GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE IN THE BEGINNING. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE COUNCIL: PROJECT THAT YOU SPOKE. NO, I WAS WRONG. COUNCIL: OH, 8 E. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. 8. WE'RE ON 8 C. CORRECT. COUNCIL: SO WE'RE ON 8 C. 8 C. RIGHT NOW. COUNCIL: AND WHO? ADAM? KEEN COUNCIL: EVERYBODY. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE. THIS IS MY 1ST TIME EVER PARTICIPATING IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I'M A LONGTIME RESIDENT. I GREW UP IN THE NEIGHBORING TOWN OF ROCKLAND. COUNCIL: BUT I PURCHASED HERE APPROXIMATELY 17 YEARS AGO. SO ANYWAYS BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE. I DON'T LIVE IN TOWN HERE, BUT COUNCIL: I LIVE JUST OUT OF TOWN, OFF OF WISE. BUT I HAVE TO TRAVEL THROUGH TOWN HERE. COUNCIL: AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE MY WAY DOWN HIGHWAY 65, AND COUNCIL: WITNESS ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON. SO YOU KNOW, I REALIZE I'M SPEAKING ON SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS HAD A HEARING BACK IN OCTOBER. COUNCIL: SO THANK YOU FOR COUNCIL: BRINGING THIS, YOU KNOW. BACK UP. I APOLOGIZE. I JUST WAS. ALL THIS WAS ACTUALLY GIVEN TO ME JUST ONLY A FEW SHORT HOURS AGO, AND I SAID, I HAVE TO SHOW UP SO, ANYWAYS. COUNCIL: I WANTED TO JUST COUNCIL: SPEAK FOR NOT ONLY MYSELF, MY FAMILY, MY NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW MY NEIGHBORS HAVE ALL BEEN. COUNCIL: THEY'RE ALL RETIRED AND I KNOW I'M SPEAKING FOR THEM COUNCIL: UP HERE, AND YOU KNOW MY CONCERNS WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON. KIND OF TO COUNCIL: FOLLOW UP THIS GENTLEMAN EARLIER IS THE RAPID DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON. AND HOW MANY HOMES HAVE BEEN GOING INTO THIS WONDERFUL TOWN OF LINCOLN? I'M RAISING 2 BOYS HERE AND COUNCIL: IT'S BECOMING. IT'S IT'S IT'S BECOMING TOO MUCH, I MEAN, I CAN'T SAY IT OTHER OTHER THAN THAT. BUT COUNCIL: THE THE TRIPS THROUGH TOWN, THE THE PACKED GROCERY STORES. COUNCIL: I MEAN, IT'S JUST. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU LIVE HERE IN TOWN THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THE COUNCIL: ASTRONOMICAL AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT WE'VE HAD WITH PEOPLE MOVING INTO THIS TOWN, BUT IT YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE HAVE TRAFFIC BACKING ALL THE WAY UP TO 12 BRIDGES IN THE MORNING. MY POINT IS IS THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS IN PLACE NOW FOR THIS TOWN IS IS IS EONS BEHIND THE DEVELOPMENT OF WHICH YOU ALL HAVE BEEN VOTING ON AND ALLOWING THESE DEVELOPERS TO COME IN HERE AND PAY LOTS OF MONEY TO THE TOWN OF LINCOLN. IT'S COUNCIL: MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT OBVIOUSLY ARE FUNNELING INTO THIS IN, IN, INTO THIS TOWN, HERE AND COUNCIL: I LIKE, I SAID. I SPEAK FOR NOT ONLY MYSELF, BUT MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS. COUNCIL: I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO APPEAL. AND COUNCIL: ANY TYPE OF FURTHER DEVELOPMENT IN THIS DOWN, IT NEEDS TO CATCH UP THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO CATCH UP. COUNCIL: WE THERE'S STILL ONLY A RALEY'S. THERE'S STILL ONLY ONE SAFEWAY. THERE'S A VERY TINY LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD. WALMART, OKAY? AND YOU KNOW, THIS. SOMETHING'S GOT TO CHANGE HERE, AND COUNCIL: I HOPE YOU CAN TAKE WHAT I'VE SAID HERE TONIGHT INTO CONSIDERATION. AND ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW. AND YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED HERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY INVOLVED. COUNCIL: TAX REVENUE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT YOU KNOW THERE'S THERE'S A LOT TO BE SAID. I COULD SAY A LOT MORE ON ON. YOU KNOW WHERE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS AND HOW WE'RE CRIME STATISTICS, I MEAN, I CAN GO ON AND ON THIS LIKE I SAID, I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS JUST A FEW SHORT HOURS AGO, SO I DIDN'T HAVE ANY TIME TO PREPARE FOR THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. YOUR 3 MIN ARE UP, AND COUNCIL: AND I'M SURE THAT MANY OF US CAN FEEL YOUR PAIN. WHEN I MOVED TO LINCOLN 25 YEARS AGO. THERE WERE LESS THAN 7,000 PEOPLE HERE, AND SO I I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND IT, AND I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL: THE THE PAIN OF OF DEVELOPMENT. AND OF COURSE IT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL: LOOKS AT AND MAKES THOSE DECISIONS. WE ARE. WE ARE BOUND COUNCIL: BY STATE REQUIREMENTS AS WELL. AND SO WE ARE COUNCIL: FORTUNATE IN MY MIND, AT LEAST THAT WE CAN. COUNCIL: WE CAN HELP WORK WITH IT. OUR DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL: DEPARTMENT IS VERY COGNIZANT OF OF THESE ISSUES. AS YOU KNOW, WE JUST LOST A SALES TAX MEASURE B, THAT MIGHT HAVE MITIGATED PART OF THE 65 ISSUES. SO SO IT'S A CHALLENGE. AND AND I. I CAN PROBABLY SPEAK FOR ALL OF US THAT WE FEEL COUNCIL: YOUR PAIN WITH WITH GROWTH, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT WE CAN MITIGATE IT, AND OF COURSE WE DO HAVE A GENERAL PLAN THAT HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE WHICH WAS AWARD WINNING COUNCIL: FOR THIS FOR THIS COMMUNITY. SO WOULD ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO THAT. COUNCIL: YES, 1ST OF ALL, JUST FOR THE RECORD. COUNCIL: WE ALL LIVE IN LINCOLN, SO THAT THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING. COUNCIL: ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO SERVE ON THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THAT YOU LIVE IN LINCOLN. COUNCIL: NUMBER 2. WE COME FROM VARIOUS PARTS OF LINCOLN. COUNCIL: AND SO WE INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY HAVE A SENSITIVITY COUNCIL: FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES. AND WHAT'S HAPPENING COUNCIL: IN THE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, ETC. COUNCIL: OH, NEXT, I'D SAY THAT THE PROJECT WE HEARD SOME NEGATIVES ABOUT COUNCIL: WAS APPROVED PRIOR TO THE INDIVIDUAL MOVING TO THE COMMUNITY. COUNCIL: IF YOU MOVE TO A COMMUNITY, IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY COUNCIL: TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AROUND YOU. COUNCIL: NOT WHAT SOMEBODY WISHES MIGHT HAPPEN. COUNCIL: BUT, IN FACT, WHAT'S HAPPENED COUNCIL: WHEN I SERVED ON THE CITY COUNCIL HERE FOR 8 YEARS I HAD PEOPLE COME TO ME AND WITH A PARTICULAR PROJECT AND SAY, AND THIS WAS IN COUNCIL: 2015, COUNCIL: WE'RE 14 AROUND THERE. WE DON'T WANT THOSE HOMES GOING IN THERE, YOU NEED TO TURN THEM DOWN. COUNCIL: I CALLED THE STAFF FROM THE CITY INTO THE MEETING. COUNCIL: THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED IN 1998. COUNCIL: THEY JUST HAD PROBLEMS WITH THEIR FINANCING A FEW OTHER THINGS. COUNCIL: AND SO NOW THEY WERE READY TO GO FORWARD. COUNCIL: AND IF WE HAD TURNED HIM DOWN. COUNCIL: YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN ONE OF THE BIGGEST COUNCIL: LEGAL ACTIONS AGAINST LINCOLN, AND WE'D BE PAYING OFF THAT LEGAL ACTION STILL TODAY FOR DENYING THEM THEIR RIGHTS, WHICH THEY HAD EARNED. COUNCIL: THEY HAD APPLIED. IT HAD BEEN APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BY THE CITY COUNCIL. THE STAFF HAD PUT ALL THEIR. INPUT THE COMMUNITY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK SO WE CAN'T GO BACK COUNCIL: AND SAY TO A BUILDER OR A DEVELOPER COUNCIL: WHAT WE GAVE YOU AS AN APPROVAL UNDER THE LAWS. COUNCIL: WE'RE TAKING IT AWAY FROM YOU NOW. COUNCIL: SO YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A MASTER PLAN COUNCIL: WHICH, AS MY COLLEAGUE INDICATED, WAS AWARD WINNING MASTER PLAN. COUNCIL: WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HUNDRED 20 COUNCIL: TO 130,000 PEOPLE WHEN LINCOLN IS BUILT OUT. THAT'S MAYBE OVER THE NEXT COUNCIL: 2030, 40 YEARS, DEPENDING UPON INTEREST RATES AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER FACTORS. COUNCIL: SO YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT AN ACTION COUNCIL: YOU MIGHT SEE BE BEFORE A COMMITTEE OR COMMISSION, OR THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY'RE TAKING MAY GO BACK COUNCIL: BEFORE YOU MOVE TO THE COMMUNITY. COUNCIL: AND EVEN IF IT HAPPENED WHILE YOU WERE IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY, AND AND I KNOW I DID NOT GO TO CITY HALL WHEN I MOVED HERE 21 YEARS AGO AND SAY, WHAT'S GOING IN ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME. COUNCIL: IF SOMETHING WENT IN ACROSS THE STREET FOR ME THAT I DIDN'T LIKE. COUNCIL: IT'S ON ME. COUNCIL: IT'S NOT ON THEM. THEY CAME IN AND GOT IT APPROVED. SO YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. COUNCIL: WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO WHAT'S GOING ON. COUNCIL: IT'S VERY COMMON IN A CITY TODAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, IMPROVEMENTS, STREETS, ROADS COUNCIL: TO COME IN IN A LOT OF CASES AFTER A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO FRONT IT. COUNCIL: AND SO YOU'LL DRIVE THROUGH LINCOLN. COUNCIL: AND THERE'S DEVELOPMENT ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, AND THERE'S AN ADEQUATE ROAD AND A SIDEWALK. COUNCIL: AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET. THERE'S NOTHING. COUNCIL: WHEN THE PERSON COMES IN AND DEVELOPS IT. COUNCIL: WE'LL GET THE REST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE DONE. COUNCIL: SO I WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH EVERYBODY, BECAUSE COUNCIL: IT'S IT'S IT'S NOT THE CITY COUNCIL, AND IT'S NOT. THE PLAN IS NOT THE STAFF. COUNCIL: WE DO. COUNCIL: WHAT WE FIND UNDER THE LAW IS THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO. COUNCIL: AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S UPON YOU AND ME AS A CITIZEN COUNCIL: TO FIND THAT OUT BEFORE WE MAKE THAT I'M GOING TO BUY HERE, BECAUSE IF YOU BUY HERE COUNCIL: WHATEVER WAS APPROVED ACROSS THE STREET. COUNCIL: THEY'VE GOT THEIR APPROVAL, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD. SO COUNCIL: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SHARE THAT. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. CHAIR. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS. THANKS, ADAM, FOR GETTING UP TO SPEAK. I KNOW 1ST TIME A LITTLE SCARY. IT'S GREAT WHEN A PUBLIC COMES OUT AND GETS INVOLVED. SO THANK YOU FOR COMING COUNCIL: FAMILIAR FACE FROM HIGH SCHOOL, I THINK, HADN'T SEEN IN A LONG TIME. COUNCIL: BUT GREAT TO SEE IT SHOW UP AND SHARE YOUR COMMENTS. SO YOU KNOW, I AGREE. THERE'S LOTS OF CHALLENGES, YOU KNOW. AS YOU KNOW, MY COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN COUNCIL: BEEN EXPLAINING, AND THAT'S GREAT, YOU KNOW, TO HEAR ABOUT IT. WE SHARE A LOT OF THE SAME CONCERNS, ESPECIALLY AS YOU KNOW A YOUNG FAMILY COUNCIL: AS WELL IN LINCOLN, AND I, TOO, KNOW IT'S KIND OF PAINFUL, YOU KNOW, HOPEFUL, THAT AS INFRASTRUCTURE CATCHES UP AND WHATNOT. COUNCIL: YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS KIND OF CATCH UP. COUNCIL: BUT ALONG THE LINES, SINCE THIS IS YOUR 1ST TIME, JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO TO. YOU KNOW YOU HAVE CONCERNS LIKE THIS. IT'S GOOD FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO HEAR AS WELL. COUNCIL: YOU KNOW THEY THEY PAY ATTENTION TO PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS AND WHATNOT, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AT CITY COUNCIL, AND COUNCIL: YOU KNOW, AS A PLANNING COMMISSION, WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT GUIDELINES KIND OF LIKE THE THE LAW, THE, YOU KNOW. DOES IT? DO THESE FIT IN THE PLAN THAT'S BEEN APPROVED. COUNCIL: SO THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT WE LOOK AT. AND SO WE WE SAY, LIKE, YEAH FITS IN THE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED. COUNCIL: BUT A LOT OF THESE ISSUES TO CITY COUNCIL HAS A LITTLE BIT MORE SAY AND WHATNOT IN. COUNCIL: YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO LIKE, STOP SOMETHING COUNCIL: THAT'S KIND OF OUT OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION PURVIEW. BUT COUNCIL: CITY COUNCIL CAN DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT MORE THINGS LIKE THAT. SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL: ANYONE ELSE, COMMISSIONER JERRY JOHNSON. COUNCIL: YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SPEAK WITH SOME CONCERNS THAT I HAD ABOUT THE 3 CONSENT ITEMS 8 CD. AND E. COUNCIL: AND I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THEM. COUNCIL: BECAUSE I THINK IT'S WAY TOO FAR DOWN THE LINE TO DO THAT. BUT COUNCIL: WE TALK ABOUT THE AWARD-WINNING GENERAL PLAN THAT WE HAVE, AND SOMETIMES COUNCIL: IT APPEARS TO ME, AT LEAST, THAT WE'RE ABIDING BY THE LAW. COUNCIL: OF THE THE GENERAL PLAN, BUT COUNCIL: NOT THE SPIRIT OF IT. FOR EXAMPLE. COUNCIL: NONE OF THE HOUSING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING TODAY CAN POSSIBLY BE CONSIDERED INNOVATIVE HOUSING AS REQUIRED BY THE GENERAL PLAN. COUNCIL: THERE IS NO INCOME INTEGRATION WITHIN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. THERE IS NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. COUNCIL: THERE IS NO APARTMENTS OR DUPLEXES OR CONDOMINIUMS. COUNCIL: IT'S IT'S ALL JUST THE TICKY, TACKY OHAM HOUSING THAT WE'RE PRESENTED WITH TODAY. COUNCIL: THERE IS NO DE-EMPHASIS ON GARAGES, NO ALLEYS, NO SIDE LOADED GARAGES. COUNCIL: AND IT'S KIND OF A DISAPPOINTMENT FOR COUNCIL: FOR ME, WHO ACTIVELY WAS INVOLVED IN PREPARING THAT GENERAL PLAN TO TO SEE THE RESULTS THAT WE SEE. COUNCIL: IT'S A DISAPPOINTMENT. COUNCIL: AND I I HOPE THAT WE CAN DO BETTER IN THE FUTURE. BUT BUT THESE THINGS ARE. COUNCIL: UNLESS, LIKE MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SET UP HERE, HAVE LONG SINCE BEEN APPROVED. AND WE'RE COUNCIL: WE'RE FAR DOWN THE THE LINE. BUT I'M HOPEFUL THAT AS NEW PROJECTS COME FORWARD COUNCIL: WE CAN LOOK AT THE SPIRIT OF THAT GENERAL PLAN AND DO A BETTER JOB. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. COUNCIL: ANY OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES HAVE A COMMENT. COUNCIL: YEAH, I'LL I'LL SAY SOMETHING REALLY QUICK. AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE, AND EVEN THOUGH THIS IS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, YOUR COMMENTS CAN STILL BE COUNCIL: TAKEN, AND IT CAN STILL BE APPLIED TO OUR FUTURE PERSPECTIVE, AND IF I CAN OFFER A LITTLE GLIMMER OF OPTIMISM IN REGARDS TO YOUR CONCERNS, BOTH OF YOUR CONCERNS, BOTH OF YOU THAT SPOKE. COUNCIL: WE STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF IN ESSENCE HIT THE RESET WITH THE NEW VILLAGES THAT ARE COMING MIGHT NOT BE IN YOUR BACKYARD. BUT THAT'S OUR OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY CAPTURE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO AND IMPROVE ON THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING. CURRENTLY. SO COUNCIL: I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHILE THINGS ARE LOOKING A CERTAIN WAY RIGHT NOW. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE REST OF THE FUTURE OF LINCOLN. SO I VERY MUCH VALUE YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND YOUR INPUT. AND IT'S NOT GOING TO WASTE. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE. COUNCIL: ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE. ARE WE READY TO? COUNCIL: BECAUSE WE MOVED THESE FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. I'M ASKING, DO WE NEED TO TAKE A RESOLUTION ON EACH ONE OF THESE? THAT IS CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. ALL RIGHT. MAY I HAVE A COUNCIL: OKAY EXCUSE ME, YES. COUNCIL: HOW IS IT WE ON 8 C. COUNCIL: I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ANYTHING ON 1ST STREET. THAT'S 8 D. OH, IS THAT 8 E, THAT WOULD BE 8 E. COUNCIL: WHEN WE COME TO THAT, BECAUSE WE WILL BE, WE WILL BE HANDLING EACH OF THESE SEPARATELY. COUNCIL: NO PROBLEM, NOT NO PROBLEM. AGAIN. IT'S VERY REFRESHING TO HAVE PEOPLE COME COUNCIL: AND SPEAK. WE DO WANT TO HEAR YOU. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? COUNCIL: THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE A I'M SO SORRY I MISSED A SECOND. COUNCIL: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GILBERT. COUNCIL: I'LL DO A ROLL CALL, SINCE IT'S A RESOLUTION. COUNCIL: YES, OKAY. COUNCIL: COMMISSION. MCKINNEY. YES, VICE CHAIRMAN GILBERT. YES, COMMISSIONER ACKLAND. YES. COUNCIL: COMMISSIONER ERIC JOHNSON. YES, COMMISSIONER JERRY JOHNSON. YES, COMMISSIONER REEDY. YES, CHAIR HATKINSON. YES, MOTION CARRIES 7 UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. OUR NEXT ITEM IS, ITEM, 8, D. COUNCIL: LIBERTY AT LINCOLN VILLAGE, 5. WOODSIDE HOMES. MAY I HAVE A MOTION? PLEASE? COUNCIL: ITEM 8 C. 8 D. EXCUSE ME, NO ONE HAD IT. COUNCIL: I? COUNCIL: YEAH. HE HAD WANTED ALL ALL 3 OF THEM OFF THE CONSENT. YES, NO, NO, NO, I THINK MINE WERE RELATIVE TO ALL 3, I THINK. AND DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR 8 D. I'LL SECOND. COUNCIL: WE HAVE A 1ST AND A SECOND, BUT WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL: VICE CHAIRMAN GILBERT. COUNCIL: YES, COMMISSION MCKINNEY. YES, COMMISSIONER EKLUND. YES, COMMISSIONER ERIC JOHNSON. YES, COMMISSIONER JERRY JOHNSON. YES, COMMISSIONER REEDY. YES. COUNCIL: AND CHAIR. HUTTISON. YES. COUNCIL: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT ITEM IS 8 E. AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE LADY IN THE AUDIENCE TO COME AND SPEAK TO US FOR 3 MIN. COUNCIL: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. COUNCIL: MY NAME IS JANA LLOYD. I LIVE ON SURGES COURT RIGHT OFF OF 1ST STREET. MY HOME WILL BE BACKED UP TO COUNCIL: THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING IN. COUNCIL: I DID DO SOME RESEARCH WELL, ACCORDING TO THE BUILDER. WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOME THE SCHREIBER FAMILY FARM WAS BACK THERE, AND THEY WOULD NEVER SELL. THERE WOULD NEVER BE ANY DEVELOPMENT BACK THERE. COUNCIL: WE PAID A A HEFTY COUNCIL: LOT FEE EXTRA LOT FEE TO LIVE THERE, AND NOW A WALL OF HOMES IS GOING IN BEHIND ME. WHEN I MOVED HERE WE MOVED HERE FROM ALBERTA, CALIFORNIA, WHICH IS SOUTHWEST OF HERE A SLEEPY TOWN. I MOVED OUT HERE TO LIVE COUNCIL: IN A SLEEPY LITTLE TOWN, AND I KNOW IT WAS GOING TO GROW. BUT THE RATE AT WHICH IS GROWING, AND THESE TEENY HOUSES. I HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS HERE IN LINCOLN. I'M A PEST CONTROL. I'M A WIDOW. I RUN THIS ON MY OWN, AND I GO INTO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THESE HOMES ARE SO TIGHT THAT I CAN'T EVEN. I'M A SMALL WOMAN, AND I CAN'T EVEN STRETCH MY ARMS OUT COUNCIL: THIS KIND OF BUILDING. COUNCIL: I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM THESE WALLS OF HOMES. SO FOR 25 YEARS I'VE LOOKED OUT ON THE CATTLE AND THE EVEN HIGHWAY. 65. NO BIG DEAL, THE PHEASANTS, THE DUCKS THAT HAVE BEEN LANDING OUT THERE. AND NOW I'M GOING TO HAVE A WALL OF 2 STORY HOMES BEHIND MY HOUSE. COUNCIL: AND IT'S DISAPPOINTING THAT WE CAN'T COME UP WITH A BETTER PLAN OF HOMES COUNCIL: THAN TO BUILD THESE WALL OF HOUSES THAT BLOCKS EVERYBODY. SO I'VE BEEN HERE 25 YEARS. I'M PART OF THE. COUNCIL: YOU KNOW. I MOVED IN WHEN I MOVED IN. IT WAS A SMALL LITTLE COMMUNITY, 18,000 SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW. NOW, WHAT ARE WE AT LIKE? 55,000, AND WE'RE GOING TO GROW TO 140,000? COUNCIL: OKAY, FINE. BUT CAN'T WE SLOW DOWN AND COUNCIL: HAVE MORE HOMES THAT ARE LIKE MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHERE THEY HAVE BIGGER LOTS? AND THEY'RE NOT THESE 2 STORY COUNCIL: LITTLE RAT TRAPS THAT ARE JUST INVADING OUR COMMUNITY. COUNCIL: I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. COUNCIL: THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR CONCERNS. AND AGAIN, WE WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENTS. COUNCIL: ANYONE WISH TO. COUNCIL: YES, COMMISSIONER. CHAIR HUTTINSON. YES. COUNCIL: SORRY. ADAM KEEN. YOU ALSO PUT 8 E. DID YOU? COUNCIL: WOULD CHAIR. WILL YOU ALLOW MORE COMMENTS FROM THEM? THIS IS ON 8 E. COUNCIL: YES. HE SPOKE TO. COUNCIL: YES, OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL: COMMISSIONER BRADY. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A FEW THINGS. ONE IS THE MAP FOR THIS COUNCIL: PROJECT AND THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY WHERE SHE LIVES. COUNCIL: IT'S DO. I READ THIS RIGHT, THAT THIS MAP WAS APPROVED IN 2019? COUNCIL: YES, WITH COUNCIL: WITH THIS SPECIFIC PLAN AND THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AT THE SAME TIME THE MAP, THE TENTATIVE MAP, WAS PROCESSED AS WELL AND APPROVED. BUT WHERE ALL THE HOMES ARE. AND RIGHT. OKAY, YEAH. AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS, IS THAT THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY LOW DENSITY? AND IS ALL OF THIS LOW DENSITY? YES, THIS IS ALL LOW DENSITY. SO THIS IS ALL THIS NOW IS, DOES A SPECIFIC PLAN, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING FAMILIAR WITH IT ON AT THE MOMENT. BUT COUNCIL: THE SPECIFICATION FOR MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM LOT SIZES IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORING ONE, ARE THEY? COUNCIL: WHAT'S THE DELTA? THEY'RE THEY'RE PRETTY ON PAR THERE FOR THE OTHER COMMUNITY KIND OF THE AVERAGE LOT. SIZE IS 65 TO 7,000 SQUARE FEET. THIS IS PRETTY MUCH ON PAR WITH THAT. OKAY? AND THE OTHER PERSON SPOKE ABOUT ELEVATION. IS THIS PROJECT GOING TO BE AT THE SAME ELEVATION, OR IS IT ACTUALLY GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN THE EXISTING COUNCIL: SP, DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON. COUNCIL: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. YEAH. CAN'T HEAR YOU, MEL. DO YOU KNOW? YEAH. COUNCIL: IF YOU COULD ANSWER THE QUESTION, YES, THAT'D BE GREAT. WE'RE RECORDING EVERYTHING. YEAH, TO CLARIFY THE LOTS. CURRENTLY, MANY OF OUR HOMES SIT AT THE LEVEL OF 1ST STREET AND OUR YARDS SLOPE DOWN, AND THEIR PLAN IS TO BRING IT ALL UP OR HIGHER THAN OUR YARDS, AND TO BUILD THAT WAY WHICH IS GOING TO AFFECT ALL THE DRAINAGE OF WATER THAT GOES OUT OF THE BACK OF OUR YARDS AND EVERYTHING. COUNCIL: SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THAT THAT SITUATION WORKS. COUNCIL: I ASSUME THE DRAINAGE IS TAKEN CARE OF BY ENGINEERING, BUT MY QUESTION WAS PRIMARILY, IF THEY'LL THE WHERE THE FOUNDATIONS WERE ESSENTIALLY GOING TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO WHERE YOURS ARE AS OPPOSED TO BEING. YEAH, WE'VE LOOKED DOWN INTO A FIELD FOR ALL THIS TIME, AND NOW THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IT UP AND THEN BUILD TWO-STORY HOMES COUNCIL: FROM THAT POINT UP. SO WE'VE HAD A LOOK DOWN. AND NOW I, PERSONALLY, WOULD PREFER TO HAVE OUR SENIOR ENGINEER KIND OF SPEAK TO THE GRADES OF THE PLANS WHICH SP. MAN IS HERE TO KIND OF PROVIDE THAT HE'S KIND OF THE EXPERT ON THAT. COUNCIL: GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE WE'RE WE ARE REVIEWING THE IMPROVEMENT PLANS FOR BILL BOTH PHASE ONE AND PHASE 2. COUNCIL: MY UNDERSTANDING IS, GENTLEMAN LIVES. COUNCIL: THE DEVELOPERS BRINGING IN FILL. SO RIGHT NOW THAT PROPERTY IS SITTING LOW A FEW FEET 3 FEET BELOW THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT. COUNCIL: SO THEY'RE GONNA BRING PHIL. AND THEN COUNCIL: AND THEN, BUT FOR THE GRADING PART, WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL: YOU KNOW WE? THERE'S NO CROSS TRAIN BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES, SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO CROSS TRAINING. SO COUNCIL: PURITY PROPERTY, THIS PULTE HOMES THEY'RE GOING TO DRAIN TOWARDS THEIR COUNCIL: TOWARDS THE PROPERTY, NOT AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY. AND SIMILARLY, THESE GUYS, THE EXISTING SUBDIVISION COUNCIL: IS DESIGNED SUCH THAT IT RETAINS AND PROCESSES ALL OF THE GENERATED ON-SITE DRAINAGE THROUGH THERE COUNCIL: THROUGH THEIR DRAINAGE SYSTEM. SO THEY WOULD. WE DO NOT ALLOW ANY CROSS DRAINAGE. THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE. COUNCIL: EXCUSE ME, WE CAN'T. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. WE CAN'T. YEAH, WE CAN'T ALLOW IT, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS WHICH MIGHT HELP YOU. COUNCIL: IS THE FOUNDATION LEVEL? AS MY COLLEAGUE ASKED EARLIER OF THE 2 DEVELOPMENTS EQUAL. COUNCIL: WE HAVE NO IDEA AT THIS POINT. WE DON'T HAVE THE BUILDING PLANS YET, SO THE LOT PADS ARE STILL BEING REVIEWED. SO WE DON'T. COUNCIL: THEY'RE THEY'RE PRETTY SIMILAR. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS YET. WE'RE UNDER REVIEW. WE JUST HAD ONE REVIEW COUNCIL: PROPER ENGINEERING. COUNCIL: I'M NOT. I'VE BEEN AROUND THIS FOR 45 YEARS. BUT I'M NOT A PROFESSIONAL PROPER ENGINEERING WOULD SAY COUNCIL: YOU WOULD NOT WANT ONE HIGHER THAN THE OTHER. COUNCIL: WHERE COULD CAUSE THAT TO DRAIN INTO THAT OTHER. COUNCIL: HAVE HABITAT PROPERTY. CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. SO THAT WAS PLANS. WHEN THE PLANS DO COME IN. COUNCIL: YOU WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE CONCERN HE HAS IS ADDRESSED. COUNCIL: AND THAT IT HAS PROPER ENGINEERING. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S THE 1ST THING WE'LL LOOK COUNCIL: OUR GRADING REGULATIONS PROHIBIT CROSS DRAINAGE ACROSS PROPERTIES. SO THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING WE LOOK AT WHEN COUNCIL: THANK YOU. SO THAT WOULD BECOME A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. THEN, YEAH, THAT'S A DESIGN CODE. IT'S A DESIGN STANDARD. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. VERY WELL. AM I CLEAR THAT THERE IS ALSO CONCERN THAT THE PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED IS SITTING LOWER THAN THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY'RE CONCERNED. IT'S GOING TO COME UP HIGHER THAN WHERE IT IS NOW? DOES IT HAVE TO BE RAISED, OR CAN IT STAY WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS? COUNCIL: SO THEY'RE BRINGING IN DIRT THEY'RE BRINGING IN FILL. SO A LOT OF THAT IS IS REALLY DEPENDING ON THE ENGINEER WHO'S DESIGNING IT. COUNCIL: WE DON'T HAVE. WE HAVE A LIMITED SAY, UNLESS THERE'S A CODE REQUIREMENT OR A ZONING RESTRICTION ON THE HEIGHT WHICH COUNCIL: I'M ENGINEERS SO PLANNING WOULD UNDERSTAND MORE THAT YOU WOULD CONTROL THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ON A PROPERTY. BUT ESSENTIALLY THE DRAINAGE IS WHAT DICTATES COUNCIL: WHERE THE PADS CAN NOW BE, HOW THEY DRAIN, HOW THE PROPERTY WOULD DRAIN. AND COUNCIL: AND SO THAT'S ALL SET UP BY THE DESIGNER. COUNCIL: SO WHETHER IT'S WHETHER THEY NEED TO BRING IN MORE FILL, WHETHER THEY NEED TO CUT IT'S REALLY UP TO THE GRADING ENGINEER WHO'S DESIGNING IT. DO YOU KNOW IF THEY TRY TO KEEP IT LOWER IF THEY CAN, OR IS THERE ANY? IS THERE ANY PERSPECTIVE OR DESIRE FOR THEM TO KEEP IT LOWER OR AS LOW AS POSSIBLE. SO IT'S NOT HIGHER. COUNCIL: IT JUST HAS TO DO WITH THE DRAINING. YEAH, IT HAS TO DO WITH GRADING AND THE DRAINAGE. COUNCIL: OKAY, SO JUST TO KIND OF JUMP IN ON THE CONCEPTUAL GRADING PLANS WHICH ARE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE AGENDA ITEMS. THE GRADES ARE SHOWING A COUPLE FEET LOWER FOR THE TENTATIVE, CONCEPTUAL GRADING PLANS FOR THIS COMPARED TO THE 1ST STREET PROPERTIES. SO AGAIN, THERE ARE SOME SUBTLE CHANGES THAT HAPPEN AT THE IMPROVEMENT PLAN STAGE. HOWEVER, THAT'S YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RIGHT. NOW THEY'RE OPERATING. COUNCIL: YEAH, I WOULD JUST TO JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON HERE TO FILL IT TO FILL IT AND PAD IT UP IS MORE EXPENSIVE. IT REQUIRES MORE WORK, AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY WANT ANYTHING TO GET IT HIGHER. AND WE ARE SO FAR OFF OF WHAT THIS ITEM IS ABOUT, IT'S GOTTEN A LITTLE UNWIELDY. SO OKAY. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL: ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE. YES, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY IT'S KIND OF MOVED OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW TONIGHT. BUT ARE WE ABLE TO JUST GIVE DIRECTION? COUNCIL: I MEAN, SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE DISCUSSED IN THE FUTURE. YEAH, LIKE AS A 100%. YEAH, WE'RE, I MEAN, WE'RE ALL COUNCIL: CONCERNED WITH. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL PLAN. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFIC PLANS. WE WENT THROUGH THIS SPECIFIC PLAN, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TEETH THAT IT HAS AND HOW IT CLAWS BACK TO THE GENERAL PLAN, AND THE SHOULDS AND THE SHALLS, AND THE OUGHT TO'S, AND ALL THOSE KIND OF WEAK NEXUSES THAT ARE JUST EMBEDDED. I MEAN. YOU LOOK AT IT COUNCIL: FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF STAFF, AND PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY SAY THIS CHECKS THE BOXES, YOU KNOW AGAIN, AND THAT'S THE BUT LIKE, WHAT CAN WE DO TO STRENGTHEN THAT OR TIE IT BACK TO THAT GENERAL PLAN? I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SUDBY DESIGN GUIDELINES, THEY'RE TALKING. THEY HAVE PICTURES OF THESE BEAUTIFUL LITTLE CRAFTSMEN, HOMES AND ETC, ETC. AND YOU'RE LIKE, OH, WOW! LIKE THAT'D BE AMAZING. BUT LIKE COUNCIL: THE REALITY IS IS, I MEAN, LOOK AT THE ENTIRE 65 CORRIDOR. COUNCIL: THESE ARE TRACK HOMES, YOU KNOW. THEY'RE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW. THERE'S A COST COUNCIL: BENEFIT THERE WITH THE DEVELOPER. THEY'RE LOOKING TO BUILD CHEAPER PRODUCT. AND WE'RE IN A HOUSING CRISIS. YADA, YADA. COUNCIL: SO COUNCIL: TO WHAT DEGREE DO WE FIND THAT BALANCE? AND WHERE DO WE FIGHT THOSE FIGHTS. AND I THINK ANOTHER INTERESTING POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE. AND ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT JERRY BROUGHT UP IS LIKE. COUNCIL: YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS IN AND OF THEMSELVES ARE GATED, WALLED OFF COMMUNITIES. SO COUNCIL: IT'S REALLY JUST THE FOLKS IN THOSE COMMUNITIES WHO ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THOSE DESIGNS. SO THE THE CITYWIDE IMPACT. COUNCIL: YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE FIGHTING THOSE FIGHTS, MAYBE FOR THOSE INTERNAL COMMUNITIES. BUT LIKE, MAYBE WE NEED TO LOOK AT LIKE, ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW THESE COMMUNITIES TO BE GATED AND WALLED OFF? COUNCIL: THEN COUNCIL: IT MATTERS BECAUSE WE'LL BE WALKING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BEING LIKE, OH, THAT'S A CUTE HOME. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING INTO THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. THEY ARE COMPLETELY ISOLATED. SO THERE'S SOME BIGGER QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL: YOU KNOW STAFF CAN EMBARK ON. AS AS WE LOOK AT THIS, AND I THINK TO WHITNEY'S POINT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO START OFF ON SOME OF THE FRESH STUFF, TOO. THAT'S GOING TO BE EASIER. I MEAN, THIS STUFF IS. COUNCIL: WE'RE INHERITING PLANS THAT WERE LADEN COUNCIL: PUT IN PLACE. SO WE GET IT. WE GET IT. WE HEAR IT. COUNCIL: IT'S HARD FOR US, SO WE'LL DO OUR BEST. BUT WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT THAT FIGHT, TOO, AND WE'RE GOING TO THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT DESIGN WHERE WE CAN FIGHT THOSE FIGHTS TO MAKE IT BETTER. SO COUNCIL: THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCIL: WE'RE READY. WE'RE READY TO VOTE NOW COUNCIL: IN 2019, BUT COUNCIL: FOR FOR HOMEOWNERS LIKE US. THERE'S BEEN NO COMMUNICATION ABOUT ANY OF THIS STUFF THAT DIRECTLY IMPACTS COUNCIL: OUR HOMES, OUR HOME VALUES, OUR VIEW, OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE NOTICING? AND I DON'T WANT TO JUST PUNT THIS OUT AS LIKE WE NOTICED THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW. BUT BUT WE DO HAVE LIKE WE. IT'S WE HAVE A. WE HAVE PROCEDURES THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO FOLLOW IN NOTICING THAT ARE COUNCIL: PRETTY CUT AND DRY FOR THE SAKE OF KIND OF COVERING THOSE NOTICING REQUIREMENTS. COUNCIL: FOR US, YOU KNOW, IN THE SENSE OF LIKE, CAN WE DO MORE COUNCIL: TO PROMOTE PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE COUNCIL: WE DO HAVE TO ABIDE BY CERTAIN NOTIFICATION PROCEDURES. COUNCIL: THERE'S A TON OF INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE. SO I THINK TO THE POINT OF PETER, AND THAT COUNCIL: GETTING INVOLVED COMING, YOU KNOW, TO THE WEBSITE, LIKE WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY MAP THAT'S COUNCIL: CURRENT AND UP TO DATE. AND IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN. WELL, THEN, YOU'RE WELCOME TO, YOU KNOW. COME IN, AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO, OF COURSE, GO TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, CERTAINLY ATTEND MORE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS. WE LIKE TO SEE THE PUBLIC THERE. I THINK, AS FAR AS AS WEBSITE COUNCIL: STUFF, I WOULD THINK THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WITHIN THE CITY WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION. IF YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING SOME OF IT, I MEAN, I CAN APPRECIATE COUNCIL: WHERE YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS STEP ONE, YOU KNOW. AND AND NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO INTO THE WEEDS THAT REALLY ARE NOT IN OUR PURVIEW. AND SO WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK NOW IS, MAY I HAVE A MOTION? COUNCIL: I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE. COUNCIL: ITEM 8 E. COUNCIL: SECOND, I HAVE A I HAVE A MOTION, AND A SECOND. MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE. COUNCIL: COMMISSIONER MCKINNEY. YES, VICE CHAIRMAN GILBERT. YES. COUNCIL: COMMISSIONER EKLUND. YES, COMMISSIONER ERIC JOHNSON. YES, COMMISSIONER JERRY JOHNSON, COMMISSIONER REEDY. YES, CHAIR HUTCHINSON. YES. COUNCIL: THANK YOU. ITEM PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. COUNCIL: THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS GENERAL BUSINESS, AND THERE IS NO GENERAL BUSINESS ON ON THIS AGENDA. PUBLIC HEARINGS. OH, PUBLIC! WELL, THEN, THERE ARE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS COUNCIL: EITHER, SO I SKIPPED OVER THAT. COUNCIL: AND THEN, UNDER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS, DO ANY OF MY COMMISSIONERS COUNCIL: A COMMENT I'D LIKE, OH, GOOD! COUNCIL: I'M JUST GOING TO ENCOURAGE THOSE THAT IT CAME TONIGHT. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESSES RELATED TO COUNCIL: DEVELOPMENT, MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE PLANNING STAFF. COUNCIL: COME, MEET WITH ONE OF OUR SENIOR PLANNERS OR ONE OF OUR PLANNERS, TO COUNCIL: GET AN OVERVIEW OF HOW PLANNING IS DONE HERE, AND COUNCIL: WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN IS. WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE GENERAL PLAN. COUNCIL: WHERE YOU CAN FIND INFORMATION HOW YOU KNOW AS OPPOSED TO DIRECTLY, MAYBE GOING TO A COUNCIL MEETING, BECAUSE COUNCIL: I THINK THAT IT AND AND GET INVOLVED. THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR MEMBERS TO GET INVOLVED ON COMMISSIONS, EVEN THIS ONE. COUNCIL: WE HAVE OPENINGS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION FROM TIME TO TIME THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO BECOME ONE OF US COUNCIL: AND BE PART OF IT. SO COUNCIL: I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO START WITH STAFF BEFORE JUST MAYBE ATTENDING A COUNCIL: A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND IT IS YOUR RIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO AT ALL DISSUADE YOU FROM USING YOUR RIGHTS, BUT COUNCIL: CERTAINLY BECOME EDUCATED IN ADVANCE. COUNCIL: THANK YOU COUNCIL: EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC CAN'T SPEAK UNLESS THEY'RE AT THE MICROPHONE. COUNCIL: YEAH. AND WE'RE THIS IS COMMISSION COMMENTS. ANYWAY. THE PROBLEM IS, WE DON'T GET CALLBACKS. COUNCIL: WE DON'T GET RETURN PHONE CALLS. SO WE HIT. COUNCIL: WE HIT WALLS. THIS IS AFFECTING OUR LIVING. BUT WE HIT WALLS. COUNCIL: SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM. SO WE COME HERE. IF YOU DON'T GET A CALL BACK, YOU CALL ONE OF US, YOU'LL GET YOUR CALL BACK. COUNCIL: YOU'LL ALWAYS GET A CALL BACK. YOU'LL ALWAYS GET A CALL BACK. THANK YOU. BUT IT'S ALREADY IN THE PLAN. WE WANT TO TALK TO THE BUILDER AND WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE PLAN, AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BEHIND US, AND HOW THIS IS GOING TO PLAY OUT. AND, AS I SAID, IF YOU, IF THEY DON'T RETURN YOUR CALL, IF YOU CALL ME. YOU'LL TALK TO THEM. OKAY, ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL: PETER GILBERT. PETER GILBERT, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER, COMMENTS COUNCIL: CHRISTIAN. I'M I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING UNABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING THE WORKSHOP, AND I STILL WANT VERY MUCH TO BE INVOLVED. AND SO COUNCIL: ABSOLUTELY YEP, WE'RE GONNA HAVE AGGREGATING THE COMMENTS AND THE PRESENT PRESENTATION MATERIALS WILL BE ON THE WEBSITE, MAYBE NOT THE ACTUAL RECORDED MEETING. BUT COUNCIL: WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. SO THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER GILBERT, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? MY COLLEAGUE COUNCIL: SAID IT BEAUTIFULLY, SUCCINCTLY. YES, YES, SHE DID. YES. WELL, I HAVE A COMMENT. COUNCIL: I ALSO HAVE A COMMENT. OH, OKAY, BUT YOU CAN GO AHEAD ALL RIGHT. WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS, I WANTED TO OFFER MY CONGRATULATIONS TO. WE HAVE 2 COMMISSIONERS WHO WILL BE LEAVING. ONE IS COMMISSIONER EKLUND, AND THE OTHER IS COMMISSIONER COUNCIL: REEDY, WHO WERE BOTH SUCCESSFULLY ADVANCED TO THE OR VOTED INTO THE CITY COUNCIL. SO THAT'S 1 THING TO DO IS TO OFFER YOU OUR CONGRATULATIONS. WE'LL MISS YOU. MY NEXT ITEM THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT EACH MONTH WE HAVE A COUNCIL: A MEETING OF COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR, AND I BELIEVE THAT THE MAYOR GOES OUT TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT HOAS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND INVITES CONSTITUENTS TO TALK, AND MAYOR CARLSCOM THIS YEAR HAS BEEN VERY, AND OF COURSE MAYOR GILBERT, WHEN HE HAD THAT ROLE, WAS, WAS VERY OPEN WITH THIS, AS AS ALL OF THE COUNCIL: THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE BEEN. ANYWAY, MAYOR CARLSKIN BROUGHT COUNCIL: OUR CHRISTIAN SVENK TO THE MEETING THIS LAST MONTH THAT I ATTENDED. IT WAS EXCELLENT. IT WAS ON COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THERE WERE CLOSE TO 40 OR 50 PEOPLE THERE. THERE WAS AN EXCELLENT SLIDESHOW. HE FIELDED QUESTIONS WHICH WE WOULD EXPECT HIM TO DO. BUT THE THING THAT I THINK WAS IMPORTANT, WHICH IS WHY I'M SAYING THIS IS THAT WE SHOULD NEVER MISS AN OPPORTUNITY COUNCIL: TO COMMUNICATE WITH COUNCIL: THE PEOPLE THAT WE WORK WITH, AND WE LIVE NEAR, AND WE WE SHARE INFORMATION WITH. I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. BUT ALSO COUNCIL: I WAS STOPPED AT LEAST 3 DIFFERENT TIMES DURING THAT NEXT WEEK. COUNCIL: AND I WAS. COUNCIL: THE COMMENTS WERE HOW EXCELLENT HE WAS, AND HOW EYE-OPENING IT WAS TO THEM. COUNCIL: AND SO THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, MY LITTLE COFFEE GROUP DOWN AT STARBUCKS AT COUNCIL: O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, AND 3 DIFFERENT TIMES I HAD THAT. SO I WANTED TO SAY TO YOU. THANK YOU. I KNOW THOSE THINGS AREN'T EASY TO DO. BUT THANK YOU COUNCIL: ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE. THEN MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? COUNCIL: ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, ROLL, AND WE'RE ADJOURNED. COUNCIL: AND OH, I'M SORRY, JEANNIE, YOU HAD A COMMENT.