Miami-Dade BCC - Comprehensive Development Master Plan Agenda

yes . >> we are back in cdmp and the remaining item there is a small scale item on first reading for you for a hearing and final action . I will do the ordinance title and reference on companion resolution in the wishes to confer a standard application but it will be withdrawn. There is a conference zoning application with you public hearing for this portion will be conducted I accordance with all witnesses sworn incorporated into the zoning record. Is what is related to the comprehensive development master plan application nmber cdmp 20220018 , east of southwest 160 miles by lennar homes to amend the counties cdmp providing separability, exclusion from the code and resolution will withdraw the board takes pertaining to the cdmp application filed by lennar homes , directing the mayor or designee in accordance with instructions related to the application requesting planning agencies to review the application reserving the right to take action to a final date. These are public hearing items and if we could confer anyone speaking was previously sworn by the clerk. >> anyone here that was not sworn in prior? You were not sworn in? I think anyone who wishes to speak you could please be sworn in at this time. >> then and raise your right hand to be sworn. Do you swear or affirm the testimony is the truth, old truth and nothing but the truth? The maybe seated. >>chair: okay, public hearing is open. We have a number of names, I count 20. Joanne, amy, michelle , lauren, maria jenkins valdes , ernesto, david archer , natalie, grant david. >>speaker: [Inaudible] >>chair: you can come forward . My name is joann cleary 19150 southwest to 96 three , 33030 . I am here to express my objection regarding cdmp , lennar homes request . I want to start by reminding the lord the patient is for a plan amendment to increase density by more than 500 percent . I find that request to increase density from 2.5 units per acre to 13 units in area where there is nothing close to that level of access is density to be inconsistent with the goals and objectives outlined in the cdmp. I ask you do you believe lennar's density request is consistent with objective lu four? . >>speaker: I live at 1630 southwest 2/79 street , 33031. I'm here to express my objection regarding lennar homes jfc grove request for a comp plan amendment to increase density from residential to low medium residential for the following reasons. Request is inconsistent with online lands to the west, south and east of the project site . The site is surrounded by homes to the west and adjacent to the east is another 40 acres. And directly east are a one acre estate home eu-1. My review of the policy lu4c states residents should be protected from intrusion by movements that detract from noise, light, order, vibration, dust or traffic. I hope you will deny this request. >>speaker: my name is amy mitchell, southwest 296 street and I find that lennar homes request to increase density from 2.5 units per interview there revised version of 7.4 units per acre in the area where there is nothing close to the model of excessive density is not consistent with the fabric of the land or a community. All the goals as outlined in the trend I ask you to review the policy lu4c that states residential neighborhoods shall be protected from intrusions by uses that would disrupt or degrade the health , safety, tranquility, the character and overall welfare of the neighborhood by creating such impacts as excessive density, noise, light, glare or vibration, dust or traffic which is a major concern of all of u . This will ruin the fabric of our neighborhood and it is failing the community it is approved . >>speaker: my name is cody, 1/64 court, homestead florida . I started a group named the concerned citizens of redland and since that time we've run the two 544 active followers. I want to make clear we are not against development. We welcome single-family home construction. But the applicants request is too much for our neighborhood . I would like to read a quote I stumbled on. At a certain point the negative impacts of excessive density will outweigh the effects of growth. Point. We have been pursuing the denial of this project for several reasons some of which are recorded in the minutes. This project is not compatible with the surrounding neighborhood. This is the exact definition of spot zoning. The area is eu-1 agriculture. I don't see how anyone could transition this project into the neighborhood . This project is too far from the bus ways. It's a 20 minute plus walk with no sidewalks . Smallest lots are eum with 15,000 square feet including the newer homes under construction . There's a reason we have two denials . This project is excessive and everyone has agreed with us . In closing I hope this commission will help us . All we have is our sleepless nights trying to combat the density plaguing south dade but everyone sitting in front of me has so much more. You have the capability to protect us and we pray that you do that, give us a fighting chance. Thank you. >>chair: thank you . >>speaker: my name is laura jenkins, northwest 21st street florida . I am a real estate agent . Most of my clients are migrant workers, business workers, farm . They rely on these areas for business and life . The new zoning is not consistent with the surrounding areas, 2.5 to 7.4 is not a compromise whatsoever last billboard to please consider denying this . >>speaker: good morning honorable members of the board of commissioners, 27 610 southwest 151st court here to express my objection regarding lennar homes. I want to start by reminding the board this application is for a comprehensive plan amendment to increase density by 500 percent. This is not about architectural features, color palettes for the average price of all. The applicant will try to distract by showing pretty pictures when the request is to increase density from 2.5 units to 30 units per acre in an area surrounded by eum and eu-1. The pictures that we show has a picture of a yellow plot on the map. It should actually be close to the orange which is the closest thing of what they are trying to get. A request inconsistent with policies that the protection of the neighborhoods. Traffic as further described in policy lu4c. I find the request to increase density by 500 percent from 2.5 units per acre to 13 units where there is nothing close to that level of excessive density to be inconsistent with the goals policies and objectives outlined in the cdmp and I do believe the request to be inconsistent with the lu4c in the cdmp. I want to close with this. Approval of the application will be the detriment of the entire community. It's beloved for its agriculture and green space . Please do not take that away from us. >>speaker: my name is david ferro, homestead florida. Application negatively impacts me as well as all my neighbors and this is a travesty what is happening . Like my constituents pointed out , if you look at these maps and staffing reports there is nothing , no density anywhere near what they are proposing . Unless it's close to the bus line, there's nothing like this . It's up against the urban development boundary where less density should be occurring . These are previously existing well existing neighborhoods with all lot less density . The traffic concerns are tremendous but I want to remind you this has already been not recommended by 2 previous boards as well as planning advisory board, this should speak volumes that there is a severe problem. I asked you to consider what all my neighbors have said. I agree with all of them and ask you to please take all these considerations seriously and render your verdict. >> thank you for the time and opportunity to speak in objection of this proposal. I am natalie grant , I've lived there my whole life and I'm here to express my objection regarding the lennar homes request and to cody! I want to reflect that we are not in opposition to development , we are focusing in on development consistent with the community in and around the surrounding areas. Redlands middle school, proud south dade senior high school graduate . In my present capacity I rebuild communities after the disasters for the federal government and work with other stakeholders around how to design and develop communities that appreciate the community character ad also appreciate the need for growth and development in a sustainable capacity. in attending these meetings I am furious because this runs counter to all the items, best practices, every approach that this applicant has adopted does not appreciate any aspect of the community. It fails to account for density , fails to incorporate design elements of a fully mature avocado growth . There are elementary schools because of the design of the community, we are a farming . It fails to understand the impact this increase would have in the surrounding area so with all that said I know you are extremely busy. I appreciate that as a government servant and I ask for your denial of this application because it is inconsistent with best practices across the board. >>speaker: my name is kimberly west and I live south of this development across from avocado field. 276 street and I am opposed to this applicant because again, density . I am happy I was welcomed in on a half acre lot across the street from this avocado field . I always knew they were going to sell it and turn it into another development . I was under that ipression because of the cdmp I learned about that there were rules and regulations in place that would keep it the same as what we have across the street. I think lennar is not trying to work with u. The last meeting which was hastily put together they came in with a very arrogant attitude . They did not want to negotiate at all about the amount of houses they wanted to put there and if you ride in the neighborhood not only is it density homes but they are all one story homes . This development they are trying to place is in the middle of nothing but estate homes. They are not wanting to work with us and the cdmp states how we should proceed and I am in objection to it . >>speaker: 162 southwest 2/74 street, I am still living there . Of the redlands council denied the proposal from lennar, plan advisory board denied it also. So I live on a 2 acre property . But all around it is half an acre , to 72 is very close to the development , five acres. So there is high density housing that does not belong to that neighborhood. So please follow the policy lu4c and please reject this application. . >>speaker: I reside at 20 southwest 164 court . I just want to say this has to be the most absurd, outrageous zoning change application in the history of dade county . To come in in an area of eum estate homes and drop in 230, 40 units, basically zero lot line, white out the avocado grove and not even go to the neighbor and say we're going to leave two or three roads so you don't have to see our bulldozers or our dump trucks, the dirt and grind for 2 years . We don't have a problem but that property needs to be 1 house per acre or even what would be great would be a two home per acre estate homes but what I'm seeing now is that lennar and hr are having a war who is going to build the most houses in homestead and they don't care. I don't know if lennar is winning but for hr horton but to try to leapfrog something like that in that area is absurd and I know you all are a lot smarter than that and don't let these guys would link you because that's all you're doing and you are smart people and you know this is outrageous . That's why it's got to be denied . If you allow this it will set the worst PRESIDENT In dade county and that's all I can say and I know you have the good sense to deny lennar. >>speaker: good afternoon. Big housing companies like lennar are changing my community and alarming rate. Southwest 16 seventh avenue. True traveling to my child's school is normally a 20 minute drive but at this time it takes more than double that to get to my child's school which is only in cutler bay. Imagine a healthy rate at which a city is supposed to grow is one percent annually. At that infrastructure can keep pace. Necessities such as appropriate sewers and water treatment facilities, clinics schools and housing have time to be planned . Infrastructure cannot keep up with population needs. People moving to this area have much better air quality and are visually more attractive . Posted is growing at 14.4 percent. When one percent is recommended . And it's population has increased 7.51 percent in 2020 according to the census . I am sure the number is currently much higher. Lennar paid $2.5 million for property and another 22.1 million for another 85 acres for 770 residences and I don't have all the property they have blocked . homestead has gown at this alarming rate and changing to accommodate an influence of new housing without time to study the effects of housing will stress an already strained infrastructure . Pleading to not change the zoning . As you can see this community does not support changing the zoning. The purpose is to control density . Community has already seen a rise in crime. >> I have another list in front of me of names . If you have approached don't reapproach. Please line up. I have james davidson, mary waters, sherry michelle santiago and linda whitaker. As you approach please remember to give us your full name and address. You have 2 minutes. >>speaker: 217 57th avenue and I object to this application because it does not fit the redlands area . It is a jewel in the crown of miami dave county, a jewel that high density developers are destroying . We the surrounding community are not opposed to growth but growth needs to be consistent with the policy lu4c. Increased density is crushing our jewel, degrading our community. This poses an increase of 500 percent as you heard but surely you understand 500 percent . Do you believe this is compatible with the existing neighborhood ? Please save our jewel and denied this application . Thank you. >>speaker: my name is sherry mitchell santiago, 27350 west 167 court . I'm here to let you know I have wholeheartedly against lennar's request to increase density from low medium density . According to your own cdmp policy lu4c miami aid shall reduce consistent with the community which this application does. It is inconsistent with its surroundings , it is surrounded by state homes to the west and south and adjacent is another 40 acres and directly east of that site are one acre estate homes . Setting this resident will allow for those 40 acres next to it to add on to that density . Additionally according to another policy they state the residential neighborhoods shall be protected from intrusion by uses that would degrade the health, safety and overall welfare of the neighborhood by creating such impacts as excessive density and traffic a mother among other ipacts. I find their request for 500 percent to be inconsistent with these policies there is nothing in the area close to that level of density. Thank you for your time. Live at 2801 southwest 157th avenue in homestead florida and I am here to speak in opposition to the j mc groves lennar homes proposal. It is a gross incursion on the fabric of this community. As you refer to your own staff paper, page 9 shows a sea of green. This is all eum properties and on page 10 we see that yellow spot. This is proposed 500 percent density increase, dramatically increasing and impacting that community. There is no way this change can help the preservation of this community . It sets an unprecedented precedent that like the previous speaker said will impact other zoning applications and I encourage you to deny this proposal. >>speaker: my name is linda whitaker, 26805 southwest 162nd avenue . Redlands florida tree 3031 . I have traveled all the way from my home this morning and this is my first time being in your chambers and I definitely am here because this is a very important thing to me. I live four blocks away and I have five acres . This project is on the border of the agricultural areas . I had an accident occur in front of my property with a farm truck and vehicle . The truck went out of control and the person ended up being airlifted so there's a lot of farm equipment that goes up and down those roads and that is way too many people so I agree with everything that has been said here today . I think this is important for the neighborhood . Dr horton is building homes per acre . It's right next door. I am sure they will be glad to utilize that acreage that lennar wants for high density and was homes that are consistent with the area though I again say this is not a good resident to set so I hope that you consider this very seriously . Thank you. >>speaker: I live right across the grove at that my husband spoke about and he is a horticulturalist. We have groves of blaha and avocado, mango we would be considered agriculture. The proposed development is right north of the all whole agricultural area . It doesn't belong there . This is like taking a piece of the us1 developments that are eight stories high and putting it right before the agricultural . I brought in a young man from haiti, I was a student advisor and it took him 25 minutes to walk to the busway. He did it and my husband has driven and there has been accidents walking down that street because there are no sidewalks so do you think the people that buy that project will be using the metrorail ? Houses are 5 to 6 thousand dollars s they won't be putting themselves I danger but there putting all of us that ride bikes in danger . I am with a foundation of nutrition farming and alternative healing arts and I can tell you good organic food is the most important thing to prevent any diseases and all of you have constituents that depend and benefit from agriculture in the redlands . I have friends that bring organic farmers, food to the farmers markets in the north part of miami and all over. We need food in miami. Of that . >> you are recognized. . >>speaker: I reside at 1602 southwest 2/87 street, homestead florida. As one of the concerned citizens of southwest florida we are in opposition for the same reasons stated multiple times. Our main concern is the development is not compatible with the existing fabric of the neighborhood. We have multiple projects where we were able to find a compromise such as the other two development projects along 288 street and the other one by avocado elementary but on this particular project based on the objectives the character of the neighborhood, the horrible precedent this would set , our board has moved to recommend denial of this application. >>speaker: mary waters, 229 street . The current zone on this property is au and you are being asked to upzone by 2 zones which would be eu-1 and then you go to eum and you go beyond that where they're trying to put the density as high as it would be. You're going to be told this is 40 acre avocado groves . Within the county which is such a fallacy that I hope you don't believe that. Groves, I've been in citrus forever but that is not the hugest impact facing this neighborhood. The zoning all around it on all three sides is the eum right now . That would be consistent with that and if you do anything higher than that you would be far exceeding it. It's already in the application that states that the fire department has concerns about their response time . Metro police say they will need additional officers to patrol it . I don't see anything in the covenant by the applicant that states that the county is requesting that they install a water main. Parks and recreation is recommending a 4.1 acre park, none of that is in the covenant. Leanest covenants I've ever read. I would ask you to deny the application and keep it a eum zone. >>chair: people who signed up for public hearing, the list has been exhausted so public hearing is now closed . To the applicant I am assuming you are going to do a presentation. >> let's say 12 minutes, I will try to get through it in 10 . >>chair: 12 minutes it is. >> pleasure to be before all of you, thank the commission for your time. Are we good? I'm joined by representatives from lennar homes and other team members that we have as well as my colleague and the first and foremost I want to thank the neighbors. We had plenty of opportunities and we've met with them but I want to thank them for coming down. We have listened, we've made changes, tried to work with them in the way that we can . We appreciate their participation and in particular cody preston was a great source of contact to get our message across and keep the discussions productive and moving forward. Do I have a quick? So I'm going to get started. I'm going to address I think a number of the comments you heard about my presentation let me start out and I went to law school because I can't do math but I can assure you from heaven.4 was not a 500 percent increase . I believe that number would be the equivalent of 13 units to the acre , ours allows you to go from 6 to 13 but our covenant at that low figure of under 7.5 so while yes it MAY appear it increases all the way up to 13 our covenant does not permit us to go over 288 units we are proposing that yield approximately 7.5 so I've heard it so many times that it will resonate but it wasn't quite accurate for what we are proposing. I'm going to come back a couple of times to proximity . You heard about proximity to the udb, we are.69 miles from the bus way which means we are .19 miles from where this commission has passed a district that would allow 36 units to the acre so it's a balancing act . A lot of the policies and procedures that were cited are many of the same ones that support this application and on the zoning side because you can make it compatible. Compatibility will speak to a greater incompatibility with industrial versus residential, that interplay . It does not mean if you have got a hold that sits on a certain size lot , that is not what compatibility needs . Staff can speak to that . This is the existing land use and proposed land use would be for lower density . You have a conference zoning application . I hope that's not the case but at some point hopefully there will be two votes . We are rezoning to plan area development and the zoning application requires us to mirror the applications so there is consistency there. of this application is simple, it's some of the same policies that the neighbors use because we are all talking about the same thing. Neighbors talked about how more new homes are being built but that is the reality, at the end of the day lennar is responding to market forces that indicate people want to move into our community and they are moving into districts eight and nine and what we tried to do is figure out how we can accommodate all those conflicting elements and part of what we have done is making it more compatible by having buffers with larger homes and working with the zoning and planning departments for sound design principles which we had to meet to get approval for anything above six units to the acre. Like I said, curious that the land use elements were cited including the same policy the neighbor is in support of trying to promote the application because it's speaking to the same thing. It's talking about infill opportunities and any land inside that development boundary there is already land use or residential development . There's discussions about agriculture. I was informed he has not been functioning for some time though practically speaking it's not removing any agriculture being used today was it already permits homes, this is not land we are adding, that is the new concept so policy lu4c you can rely on because that is infill . Infill is not just the urban core radar, it is taking parcels have not been developed in figuring out how we can use them to try and address broader and narrower concerns, broader me relate to the needs we have as a community, the needs that we have for population growth, what the master plan requires us to have . Narrow commitment is how do you make yourself compatible with your neighbors. You see that in the various commitments we've made. >>chair: one second. I need to clarify something here. We have seven members here . So we can't lose a person. I know we have some time constraints , is there anyone who has a time constraint that needs to vote? You have to leave? [Inaudible] I could go further . Okay. Now to the commissioner , you can try to finish this and we can bring it back in NOVEMBER but if you can finish this by 12:05 but if you can't , you have to decide how you want to proceed , how do you want to proceed ? And if I could just have... Thank you. If you want to complete it today I am comfortable . >> if I complete it today with commissioner gonzalez impending departure this will take a couple of minutes before he has to leave. I would prefer to finish the presentation if picking it up halfway doesn't make sense. >>chair: let's go . >>chair: you will see those transitions we built on southern lots, one of the items you heard was proximity to udb and there's sort of sacrosanct prohibition on having density. I picked two examples because I didn't want to put seven on the page but there are so many instances of density well above estate density and I picked two in south dade and one further south where you've got commercial and a large multi family project where you've got medium density, and close proximity . Again, our county has had to adjust to the fact that that is there and we cannot afford to just take whatever is closest and decide that can only be an estate what we do is work with staff to make it compatible . This is far from the first time this commission would approve an application with higher density at the edge let's call it and again our property is fairly unique . Not only is it abutting one side it's 12.6 miles from the bus way. That leads me to this slide . Here you see the conundrum and why we strive to be good neighbors by proposing a project that is compatible but we have to be mindful of the fact that this parcel is close to the bus way and while someone MAY correctly argue it's a long ways to walk , we want to dispute that but there are parking facilities and elements into this county to try to bring folks on this close by to the bus way . That is what the policy is therefore . Discussions with neighbors I thank MISTER Aniston and his neighbors were all their time and I'm not going to read all of this I want to introduce it to the record . One when cody reached out to us we deferred our community council meeting by months so we could have been eating that's the meeting that we had in MARCH in person. We deferred the item so we could go to meet with them and go to community council . After that we continue to meet regarding modifications and then continued to meet with them after the advisory board meeting we spoke to the council meeting here and continued that dialogue, this is months of conversations but in addition we our own targeted research and I'd like to introduce to pieces of information, 42 signed levels of support from local businesses. I don't know how to go back . Finally we had another in person meeting . With 50 to 60 neighbors . We are meeting with the neighbors . Here are some of the letters of support businesses make sense and then the letters of neighbors in orange. We got those letters. You can appreciate the neighbors in support, somebody who's got a child that just graduated, got their job and want to move into the neighborhood. Someone that knows they have family moving from out of state and they want to be able to move in. Given the climate that existed with strong opposition it wasn't the most comfortable circumstance for neighbors to say I would like for this not to be incredibly expensive estate homes, I would like it to be something my family to move into. But the businesses , is what you would expect our businesses struggle and be traffic , they need people, they need people to show up. We talk about this at every single application, millions in impact fees, hundreds of thousands of dollars to other agencies, police stations, fire stations. We had this conversation with neighbors, the challenges expending those dollars wisely in these neighborhoods, that is the challenge we all see we have traffic improvements we must do on the northeast corner and we have a turn lane at the corner of 280 and 167 avenue which is not adjacent . I wanted to talk about those commitments that we made transition buffers on the south and west and the star represents three areas along the two bigger stars, each of that is not and a half. This is not the gated community, this will be open to all residents . This community they have larger lots, but be part is where we have been meeting with them and this will provide opportunity to walk. Your desire for declaration of restrictions. The transition for a week or two, designed with the designs, street lighting I'm trying to get through this quickly but streetlight around so there's no intrusion into the agricultural areas, of the gated community, the zoning declarations really part and parcel of the number of units getting a little more finality to the design that we have every one of your departments as no objection to this application, your staff is recommending both at cdmp and zoning they are both recommending the approval and I'll close with some photographs we and balanced and I have skipped over talking about the embellishment of the architectural design. We heard about wanting to look and feel and character so lennar has modified its design one story homes, 2 but also one-story options there's another one. We have taken into consideration the state. Project overview, this complies with cdmp. You have staff recommendation of approval for that . Zoning, you have your staff recommendation of approval . It is compatible with the area, we have made it how goes transition buffers and other accommodations. It's a more modest increase, it is not 500 percent. It is an increase our area requires close . Again I will close with how I've started . We incorporated as much as we could with the neighbors . We just want what we have, your homes, that was not feasible for us but we have tried with them at all times. Presentation, I am happy to answer questions today understand that's not the case. >>. >>chair: public hearing has been closed >> thank you for the presentation and thank you to all the residents for coming out and having your voices heard and thank you to my colleagues . I know we are close to losing koran and I appreciate my colleagues saying. Represent all the residents here in miami date county appreciate you saying karen about the residents of district 8. It is not unusual we are hearing applications because we have a commodity in the county which is land I have to invite you all to come down so you can see first hand how you make unique this area is and why our chambers still with residents having concerns about the fabric of that area is for this reason why I created a charrette in the redlands area to plan for the future of the because there are pressures coming in from solely different actions I think it's important to note that this just shy of 39 acres is zoned residential . It is not the case this land can't be knocked . This applicant is proposing 288 , but it's also important to note the residents time after time articulated to this board they are not against development . They will often be extraordinarily reasonable and come with an agreement reached by the applicant as they had with the community on this application but here it appears an agreement has not been reached so a decision has to be made today. When I see all green and then highlighted area of yellow it gives me tremendous concern and it raises the question of compatibility and I understand there are legal definitions of ability have to ask myself if I were a this area would this project concern me and quite frankly the answer is yes. I am concerned about this project the precedents this project will set in this area that is entirely green with a spot for y'all. If this were to pass the surrounding areas then turned yellow now for my colleagues that will don't understand appreciate you making that everything is the housing inventory and I understand that is the applicants goal but it's important to understand the market is not the same as two years ago. There are substantial articles about this . Lennar sold 75 units because you couldn't offer them low. the market is slowing .- 410 single-family homes available in miami date county alone . To allow this project to move forward and compromise the fabric area that is currently being investigated for what is going to look I don't think is to take this time. I also think it is important to note there are a number of requests that were not taken by the applicant and I don't understand why with a situation like this where there's this much adversity from the community and there's 50, 75 people showing up I would anticipate it not expect because you are not new to the island expect more offerings from the applicant in a situation like this and it's not reflected in this particular application so with all those things taken into consideration the fact that this sets a dangerous precedent for the area that you can do land, it's not like you can't build, you just can't build as much as you do I have to take into serious consideration these people, or quality of life that they are not being reasonable . So with that I cannot approve this application today and I hope I can count on my colleagues in my ocean to deny this application. >>chair: it's been moved and seconded . >> we hear your commissioner, we would respectfully ask if we have an opportunity to regroup and come back and see if there is something additional we can do before the project is denied to come back in NOVEMBER . And take us up and see if there's something we might be able to do that meets your substantial concession or reduction that you are seeking. We've waited this long that one more delay might merit more effort and we would respectfully ask that you consider that motion and see if we can't do something for you . >>commissioner cohen higgins: I appreciate the request and here's my position on the request. I don't like differing items. When an item is noticed everybody has indicated they are ready to go and an item with this much constitution consternation from the committee I would expect additional concessions made . It was denied unanimously there, denied by the planning advisory board, it wasn't even close and you have been working on this since FEBRUARY. Something should have said to you we need to make this application better before we bring it to the board . This is the first time it has come before the board . I am always in favor if of working with the community. I guess the request I to move for a deferral to our next meeting as opposed to an outright denial west and mark . >> we will go to the drawing board and talk to neighbors about what we would be able to do that would request a concession and come back to you all hopefully with much more substantial accommodation for concerns the neighbors might have and if that would be the boards wish. >>commissioner cohen higgins: do my colleagues wish to be recognized? >>chair: this is my hesitation . We've had an item before us in our last iteration of this board that talked about single-family homes and how many ingalls family homes have been built . I didn't necessarily support it and the reason I didn't is because I think the density is probably the way we need to go. We have to go up because we can't go out. If there is property that we can single-family homes in and I appreciate they can build some single-family homes but it's decisions like this that have us in the housing crisis that we are in . Unless we're saying it's going to be density and this is to the residents, I appreciate all of your opinions but I was born and raised in south florida, so the idea that you can keep a neighborhood exactly the same is challenging to a developing urbanized area . We will eventually price out everyone. It's just numbers . So this isn't ....At some point there has to be something . Where we can build single-family residence I would like to see that . We have board members but there are seven of us who gave up our time so you have done that already but I just think if we have the opportunity to build single-family homes with the understanding that we don't necessarily want to encourage building outside the udb and some people don't want density so we have to provide people places to live. If the commissioner is supportive of giving you an extra month I would be supportive of that. >>commissioner regalado: thank you. I echo some of the comments of the CHAIRMAN . Change is difficult and when we talk about this we have seen it in our neighborhoods . The area I represent started out with acre and half acre lots. It's just a matter of time but that being said we have to unique opportunity we just got the ag report. We are having this conversation about agritourism. To the neighbors, what is agriculture MAY change in the next few months. How that impacts your quality of life they change dramatically the next few months . I think even though it's been going on for all while, there are different things in motion before this board that might lead the community to a different outcome if they get another opportunity to look over that cabrera report, to look over the agritourism options being considered and see if we can work something out with the developer but we are in a difficult spot . We want to provide housing inside the line and provide more opportunities so I'm happy to spport the commissioner and gives him one more month if you think given everything that happened in the last month and a half maybe that will help people move to a different conclusion. >> I'm happy to support the district commissioner to see if we can come to some sort of consensus. >>chair: I've got one minute . >>commissioner cohen higgins: I've met with the applicants and I know this has been lingering since the beginning of the year and we are now in OCTOBER. These applicants are not new to this process and I would have anticipated more from this application today and there are many more applications coming from this particular applicant . Hopefully when those applicants come before us they are better reflective of considering what the fabric of this community looks like and what's important to your point MISTER CHAIRMAN I think it's an important one, we want density along the busway and yes we want more inventory but preferably affordable so our people, this is not either one of those will all those things considered the amount of time that has been spent on this make a motion to move to deny the application. >>chair: there has been a motion. Call the roll. [Roll call]... [Roll call vote] >> MISTER Chair, we still need to dispose of the companions. To adjourn the cdmp and reconvene . >>chair: all in favor signify by saying aye. >> considering the cdmp was denied the only options are to ask for withdrawal . >> I will withdraw the application. >> we need the motion to accept the withdrawal . >>chair: all those in favor