Nov 18, 2025 - 06:30 PM

>> GOOD EVENING. SPECIAL MEETING OF THE OAKLEY PLANNING COMMISSION IS CALLED TO ORDER AT 6:30 P.M. ROLL CALL AT THIS TIME, COMMISSIONER HARVEY? >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER OLIVEROS? >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER IRELAND? >> HERE. >> COMMISSIONER GAUDY? HERE. >> AND I AM VICE CHAIR PRICE, PRESENT. THIS TIME, WE WILL STAND IN PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, PLEASE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL BE DOING A SELECTION OF OFFICERS. MR. STRELO, WOULD YOU PLEASE REPORT FOR US ON THIS? >> YES, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. FOR THIS ITEM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE SELECTING A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, AND THIS WILL BE FOR TWO YEAR TERMS. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THIS, THERE WAS A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR SELECTED BACK IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, THAT WAS DIEGO REDUCE GO, VICE CHAIR. SINCE THAT TIME, ALL OF THE TERMS HAVE EXPIRED FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND LATER IN FEBRUARY, OF THIS YEAR, COMMISSIONERS CARRIE HARVEY AND YARED OLIVEROS WERE ELECTED TO TWO YEAR TERMS, SET TO EXPIRE ON FEBRUARY OF '27. AND THEN, HERE IN SEPTEMBER, WE HAD OUR TWO NEWEST PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER HARVEY AND COMMISSIONER IRELAND AND COMMISSIONER PRICE WAS REAPPOINTED, AND THE THREE OF THEM WERE APPOINTED FOR FOUR YEAR TERMS, SET TO EXPIRE IN OCTOBER OF 2029. THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW AND WHERE THE CURRENT TERMS ARE. SO, WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED, AND A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION CAN BE A DENOMINATION FOR THE CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR AND THE COMMISSION CAN EXPERIENCE DISCUSS THAT AND AT THE END OF THIS, WHAT WE WILL DO THIS ONCE WE HAVE ESTABLISHED OR SELECTED A CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, STAFF WILL REARRANGE THE SEATS IN THE NEW SEATING ORDER, AND WE WILL NEED A MOMENT TO UPDATE THE PRESS TO TALK BUTTON, THAT THE CHAIR WILL SEE WHEN EACH COMMISSIONER IS REQUESTING TO SPEAK. SO, WE MIGHT JUST TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO DO THAT, BEFORE MOVING ON WITH THE AGENDA. BUT, OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSIONER TO NOMINATE. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? SEEING NONE. WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO NOMINATE AND MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE THE CHAIR? >> I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE LEONARD PRICE FOR CHAIR. >> I SECOND THAT MOTION. AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE KERRY HARVEY FOR VICE CHAIR. >> I WILL SECOND THAT. >> CAN WE TAKE A VOTE, PLEASE? BY NAME, KENB? >> I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT MAYBE THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR SHOULD DO SEPARATE VOTES? >> WE NEED THE MOTION, FIRST. >> WE WILL VOTE ON A CHAIR, FIRST. >> WELL, I SECOND THE CHAIR, LEONARD PRICE. >> AND JUST A VOICE VOTE IS ALL WE NEED? YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER PRICE TO BE APPOINTED AS CHAIR, SO NOW YOU CAN TAKE A VOTE. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE VICE CHAIR. >> I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE KERRY HARVEY FOR VICE CHAIR. >> SECOND THAT. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> >> I KNEW IT WAS ALL GOOD. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. SO, STAFF WILL ASK IF WE CAN HAVE A SHORT RECESS FOR US TO REARRANGE THE SEATS, AND THE REQUEST TO SPEAK BUTTON. WE APPRECIATE THAT. IT WILL ONLY BE ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MINUTES. SO, YOU GUYS ARE MOVING ON THE OTHER SIDE? >> SO, I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE, NOTHING HAS CHANGED. WE WILL SWITCH OUT THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR'S NAMETAGS NEXT WEEK. WE WILL HAVE THOSE NEW TITLES ON THERE. FOR TONIGHT, PLEASE FORGIVE US. WE WILL KEEP IT AS IS AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND KEEP GOING. THANK YOU. >> IT'S TIME WE CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA. I HAVE ONE SPEAKER WITH A REQUEST TO SPEAK. BETH LAMONSI? NOT HERE. THAT'S THE ONLY ONE WE HAVE. WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OR, WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? [ INAUDIBLE - LOW VOLUME ] >> SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> AYE. >> WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS. PUBLIC HEARING IS ON BROWNSTONE. EVAN GORMAN WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION, PLEASE. YES, THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. JUST GIVE ME ONE MOMENT TO GET THAT PRESENTATION LOADED UP. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, TONIGHT, OUR PUBLIC HEARING IS ON THE DESIGN REVIEW APPLICATION FOR BROWNSTONE SUBDIVISION, 8803. FIRST, AS ALWAYS, WE WANT A LAY OF THE LAND, AND WE ARE OVER THERE ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE CITY ALONG BROWNSTONE, WHERE THAT STAR IS ON THE MAP. HERE IS A CLOSER LOOK. THERE, YOU HAVE MAIN STREET AND BROWNSTONE, WHERE THEY MEET, THE INTERSECTION THERE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER. THE PARCEL, SUBJECT PARCEL TONIGHT, IS OUTLINED IN ORANGE. IT IS ZONED R-6 FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. IT'S GENERAL PLANNED DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL LOW/MEDIUM. IT HAS A VARIETY OF LAND USES AROUND IT, IT HAS AN HVAC COMPANY AND A RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY TO THE SOUTHWEST THERE, AND CUT OUT OF THE PARCEL, YOU HAVE SOME HOMES TO THE NORTH. AND MORE HOMES AND LAND TO THE SOUTH. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS A VINEYARD IN FRONT AROUND BROWNSTONE ROAD. AND THEN, A VACANT PORTION OF THE LAND WITH VARIOUS TREES. FIRST, SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS PROJECT. THIS PROJECT, THIS SUBDIVISION --A TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP WAS APPROVED ON FEBRUARY 12th, 2007. THE COUNCIL REVIEWED THE PROPOSALS FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS AND APPROVED A MAP AND IT WAS A NEGATIVE DECLARATION AT THAT TIME. THEN, IN 2017 AND 2020, THE APPLICANT FILED FOR AN EXTENSION, TO EXTEND THAT TIME WELL THEY LINED UP THE PROJECT. AND THEN, JULY 13th, ON JULY 13th, 2021, THERE WAS AN APPLICATION FOR A MODIFICATION OF THE CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL. SO, THIS SUBDIVISION HAD BEEN APPROVED --IT WAS PREDICATED ON SOME STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE GOING IN. THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ADDRESSED THAT IN THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL. BY THIS TIME IN 2021, IT WAS CLEAR THAT THE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD NOT BE THERE. AT THE SAME TIME, THE THOUGHTS AROUND STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT, FROM 2007. THINGS MOVED TOWARDS ON-SITE RETENTION OF WATER, TRYING TO RECHARGE GROUNDWATER. SO, THERE WERE SOME ADDITIONAL OPTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. THEY ASKED FOR A MODIFICATION OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT SAID, OKAY, IF WE DON'T HAVE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, WHAT IF WE REPLACE, TEMPORARILY, SIX OF THE LOTS WITH A DETENTION, MEETING THE COUNTER REQUIREMENTS FOR STORMWATER, I KNOW A LOT OF SUBDIVISIONS THESE DAYS USE BASINS AND TREES ON SITE. AND THEN, THERE IS A CONDITION THAT IF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS BUILT ONE DAY, THAT CAN THEN BE DEMOLISHED, SORT OF, YOU KNOW, MODIFIED, GRADED, AND THEN HOMES WOULD BE BUILT THERE, JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL. AND THEN, COUNCIL REVIEWED THIS AND THEY APPROVED, THEY SAID, YES, IF YOU MAKE ON-SITE DETENTION AND TAKE AWAY THOSE SIX HOMES BEFORE THAT, THAT WOULD BE FINE. IF YOU HAVE ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE, OR A 100 YEAR STORM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OR, IF THERE IS A CONDITION LIKE THAT AND THE STRUCTURE IS BUILT, THEN YOU CAN BUILD THE FINAL SIX LOTS. THERE IS THE BACKGROUND, THERE. FINALLY, DECEMBER 10th, 2024, THE FINAL MAP WAS APPROVED, SO THAT IS WHEN YOU TAKE THE FINAL SUBDIVISION TO THE COUNTY. EVERYONE HAS REVIEWED IT AND THEY ARE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD, SELLING THOSE LOTS SEPARATELY, AND THEY ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE SUBDIVISION FINAL. THE LAST PART OF THAT, YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH THE LAST ENTITLEMENT STEP IS DESIGNER REVIEW. SO, THAT IS WHAT TONIGHT IS ABOUT. SO, TONIGHT'S APPLICATION IS ON THE DESIGN OF THE HOMES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED, YET. AND INCLUDING THE LANDSCAPING, DETAILS ON SOUND HALLS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. HERE, WE HAVE A PLOTTING PLAN, THIS IS WHERE YOU PLOT OUT THE DIFFERENT HOMES, THE FLOORPLANS, WHERE THEY ARE GOING, WHAT ARCHITECTURAL STYLE HAVE. AND YOU LAY IT ALL OUT THERE FOR US TO REVIEW, THE GUIDELINES, AND WE HAVE THAT PLOTTING POINT ON THE LEFT, WE HAVE FIVE FLOORPLANS, AND WE HAVE A MATRIX HERE THAT SHOWS THERE IS FIVE OF THEM, THEY EACH COME IN THREE DIFFERENT ELEVATION STYLES, AND THEN THESE CAN HOLD. HERE IS A LOOK AT THE HOME PLANS. SO, AGAIN, THESE COME IN DIFFERENT STYLES, SO YOU ARE SEEING JUST ONE STYLE OF EACH HOME PLAN. WE HAVE ONE SINGLE STORY, AND THE REST, THE FOUR OTHERS, ARE TWO STORY PLANS. THESE HOMES COME IN FOUR POSSIBLE STYLES. SO, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS FOUR STYLES TO CHOOSE FROM, CRAFTSMAN, CALIFORNIA RANCH, SPANISH ECLECTIC, AND PRAIRIE. THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, I HOPE I DON'T MAKE IT CONFUSING, BUT EACH PLAN COMES IN THREE OF THESE STYLES. SO, PLAN FOUR MAY NOT HAVE CALIFORNIA RANCH. EACH OF THESE STYLES HAS THREE DIFFERENT COLOR AND MATERIAL SCHEMES. SO, YOU DON'T JUST GET THAT ONE, YOU ALSO CHANGE THE MATERIAL OF THE ROOF AND COLORS, SO THAT'S HOW WE GET SOME VARIETY TO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO, WE TRY TO MAKE EACH HOME LOOK A BIT DIFFERENT. HERE IS A RENDERING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WILL LET YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FOR A MOMENT. HERE IS A TABLE WITH THE FLOORPLAN. SO, WE HAVE FIVE OF THEM. THE REASON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE RANGES, IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE OPTIONS. INSTEAD OF A THREE CAR GARAGE, WE HAVE ANOTHER BEEN DROOPING, CAN PART --CONVERT PART OF IT TO A BEDROOM. AGAIN, WE HAVE ONE ONE-STORY PLAN, THE REST ARE TWO STORY PLANS. AND THEN, THEY RANGE IN TERMS OF BEDROOMS, BATHROOMS, AND GARAGE SPACES. THE SMALLEST IS 2100 SQUARE FEET, AND THE LARGEST IS A LITTLE UNDER 3600 SQUARE FEET. ALL RIGHT, THERE IS SOME NUANCE, HERE. I DON'T WANT TO BREAK ANYONE'S BRAINS, BUT WE ARE GOING TO START WITH PLAN TWO AND PLAN THREE, THE FLOORPLANS LOOK VERY SIMILAR. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM, THEY ARE VERY SIMILAR, AND THE FLOORPLAN THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, IS THE UPPER FLOOR OF PLAN TWO AND PLAN THREE. YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS A BONUS ROOM, ON PLAN THREE. AND FOR US, AS PLANNERS, WHEN THE FLOORPLAN IS SIMILAR, WE WANT TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT. YOU KNOW, IS THIS THE SAME HOME? AND ARE WE TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SAY IT IS FIVE FLOORPLANS? SO, HERE, WE DID TAKE A CLOSER LOOK, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS A BONUS ROOM ON THE PLAN THREE. THE FACADE IS ACTUALLY DIFFERENT, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACADE --WHICH IS IN THE MIDDLE --YOU SEE SOME MORE ARTICULATION ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF PLAN TWO. AND SO, THEY HAVE TRIED TO CHANGE THE MATERIALS, AS WELL, GIVE IT SOME VARIETY, THERE. AND THEN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SIDE --WHICH IS ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE --YOU WILL SEE THAT THE MASKING CHANGES AGAIN, TO ACCOMMODATE THAT BONUS ROOM. SO, YOU SEE THERE IS SOME VARIETY, THERE. NOW, I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU THE NEXT ONE. PLAN FOUR AND FIVE ARE SIMILAR. ON THE FLOORPLAN, THERE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, YOU HAVE SECOND FLOOR, AND IT DOES NOT LABEL THE BONUS ROOM, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL FLOOR SPACE BY THE FRONT OF THE HOME. ON THE FRONT FACADE, YOU SEE, AGAIN, TRYING TO MAKE IT --BRING SOME VARIETY AND DIFFERENT ARTICULATION OF WINDOW SPACE, THERE. AND THE MATERIALS ARE DISTRIBUTED DIFFERENTLY. SO, WE HAVE THAT. AND THEN, ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, YOU WILL SEE THE SIDE ELEVATION CHANGES, AS WELL. THE MASSING OF THE BUILDING. THAT IS BECAUSE THE FLOORPLAN OF THE SECOND FLOOR IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. NOW, ON EVERY APPLICATION -- WELL, PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE --WE WILL PROVIDE YOU AN ANALYSIS. YOU KNOW, OUR JOB, AS STAFF, IS TO REVIEW WHAT COMES IN, SEE IF IT MEETS OUR GUIDELINES, THEN WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU. SO, TO COVER THIS APPLICATION, WE REVIEWED THE PROPOSED PLANS FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE ADOPTED CITY OF OAKLEY RESIDENTIAL GUIDELINES. SO, WE ARE NOT GOING OFF "VIBES" OR OUR FEELINGS, WE HAVE TO GO OFF WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED, AND ONCE THEY APPROVE THIS DOCUMENT, WE GO THROUGH IT AND WE CONFIRM WHETHER THE PLANS WORK OR NOT, AND WE ARE HERE TO TELL YOU WHETHER TO DO OR DON'T. SINCE THE VICINITY MAP IS ALREADY APPROVED IN THE FINAL MAP IS RECORDED, STAFF FOCUSED THIS ANALYSIS ON THE HOME DESIGN, HOME PLOTTING, AND LANDSCAPING. ANY OTHER PART OF THIS PROJECT IS MUTE. WE FIND THAT THE HOMES ARE ARRANGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S RESIDENTIAL GUIDELINES. THEY HAVE BURIED THE FRONT SETBACKS, THAT WAY WHEN YOU DRIVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU DON'T JUST SEE A WALL OF HOUSES ALL IN THE SAME SPOT. THEY INCLUDE AT LEAST 20% OF THE HOMES AS SINGLE STORY, WHICH THE GUIDELINES CALL FOR. AND TWO STORY HOMES ARE LOCATED ADJACENT TO ONE ANOTHER, SECOND STORY ARE LOCATED BY A MINIMUM OF 15 FEET FOR INCREASED PRIVACY AND VISUAL SPACE. SO, WE ARE LOOKING FOR THOSE ITEMS, WHEN WE TOOK A LOOK AT THEIR PLAN AND WE FOUND MOST OF THAT WAS GOOD. THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS DEMONSTRATE CONSISTENCY, AS WELL. EACH PROPOSED ELEVATION CONTAINS AN COHERENT ARCHITECTURAL STYLE WITH COMPATIBLE FIXTURES AND DETAILING. ONE THING WE LOOK FOR, WE WANT EXTERIOR MATERIALS TO WRAP AROUND, WE JUST DON'T WANT THEM TO LOOK LIKE THEY ARE STUCK ON THE FRONT, AND SO, WE SEE THAT. WE WANT SOME ARTICULATION, AS WELL. WE DON'T JUST WANT ONE BOX. WE WANT PARTS OF IT TO COME OUT. SO, THE SECOND STORY, LIKE YOU LOOKED AT SOME OF THEM, IS COMING OUT A LITTLE BIT. PARTS OF THE FIRST STORY ARE STEPPED BACK. WE WANT ENTRY PORCHES, THAT IS WHAT OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES CALL FOR AND WE HAVE SEEN ENTRY PORCHES, AS WELL, WHICH IS GOOD. SO, ULTIMATELY, WE FOUND THAT THESE MET OUR DESIGN GUIDELINES. I DID NOT HAVE A SLIDE ON LANDSCAPING, BUT LANDSCAPING WILL BE CONTROLLED, AS WELL, WITH POLLINATOR PLANTS, AND CALIFORNIA'S WATER USE LAWS. SO, THAT WAS GOOD. ULTIMATELY, WE FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL. WE ARE PROPOSING SOME CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU, COMMISSIONERS. FIRST, IS ENSURING CONFORMANCE WITH OLDER CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. SO, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CARRY OVER SOME OF THE COMMISSIONS, OR AT LEAST WE REFERENCE THEM, LIKE THE INTENTION BASED. WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO FORGET THAT, YOU KNOW? PLANNERS DO, HEAVEN FORBID, I WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE OR I GET HIT BY A BUS, WE WANT FUTURE PLANNERS TO NOT HAVE TO DIG THROUGH AND FIND THAT OLD RESOLUTION. SO, WE HIGHLIGHT THAT IN THIS PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. AND SO, THE FENCING ON THIS PROJECT, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN 2007 ON THE FENCING. PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT HORSES KICKING IN THE WOOD BOARDS, SOME SPOTS THEY WANTED SOUND WALLS --IT WAS VERY COMPLICATED. IN OUR ORIGINAL RECORDS OF THE TENTATIVE MAP THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO MATCH, WAS A LITTLE ROAD LOW RESOLUTION, SO I SPENT SOME TIME MAKING SURE THAT THE CURRENT PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT. BUT, I AM ASKING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL TIME, SO THERE IS A CONDITION THAT JUST SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE THINK THAT WE HAVE THE FENCING CORRECT, SOME OF IT HAS TO BE VINYL BECAUSE THE HORSES HAVE A HARDER TIME TAKING IT DOWN. BUT, WE WANT MORE TIME TO CONFIRM THAT THE FENCING MEETS THAT ORIGINAL SUBDIVISION PLAN, SO WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT, JUST TO MAKE SURE. AND THEN, I ALSO WANTED SOME ADDITIONAL REVIEW ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRANCE. SO, I JUST HAD SOME TINY DETAILS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRANCE WHEN YOU FIRST DRIVE IN AND OUR GUIDELINES MENTIONED THAT WE WANT SOMETHING THERE, SO WE ARE JUST ASKING THAT, AS PLANNING, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO DETERMINE, SO WE ADDED THAT, AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE ALMOST DONE. THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE. FOR ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, THE PROPOSAL FOR HOME DESIGNS AND SITE DESIGN ELEMENTS OF THE SUBDIVISION WILL FALL WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE ORIGINAL SUBDIVISIONS CEQA ANALYSIS. SUBDIVISION 8803 WAS ANALYZED THROUGH AN INITIAL STUDY AND A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BY THE OAKLEY CITY COUNCIL ON FEBRUARY 12, 2007, THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 18-07. BECAUSE OF THAT, BECAUSE THAT ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW TOOK PLACE, NO ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS IS REQUIRED. THAT PROJECT EXPECTED HOMES TO BE HERE, SO THAT IS WHAT WE WILL GET. ALL RIGHT, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING BROWNSTONE SUBDIVISION 8803 DESIGN REVIEW 2025-16, AS CONDITIONED. AND I AM ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. IF, FOR SOME REASON, I CAN'T, I ALSO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE, AN ARCHITECT, AND A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THEY ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND THEY DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST A PLEDGE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION? >> I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, IF THAT'S OKAY. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP, WHERE YOU SHOWED KIND OF THE LAYOUT OF WHAT THOSE HOMES WILL LOOK LIKE? YOU MENTIONED THE FINAL SIX LOTS --AND COULD YOU POINT OUT WHERE THOSE WOULD BE, THOSE FINAL SIX? IS THAT -- >> YEAH, I SHOULD HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THAT. THAT IS ON THIS SLIDE. THE BOTTOM LEFT MAP, THERE IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER, YOU WILL SEE SOME DOTTED --A DOTTED BOX, THAT REPRESENTS SIX LOTS THAT ARE MEANT TO BE FOR THE MESA. >> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. AND ONE THING ON THE STAFF REPORT THAT I WAS MEETING ON THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION, IF YOU COULD HELP ME CLARIFY, IT SAYS THAT IT PROHIBITS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FROM ACQUIRING LANDS WITHIN 50 UNITS OR LESS WITHIN PHYSICAL PARKLAND. THE CITY WOULD THEN IMPOSE PARKLAND FEES. COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY WHAT THAT MEANS, IN TERMS OF THE PARK? I GUESS, MORE FROM A FAMILY PERSPECTIVE? PARKS ARE REALLY BIG HERE IN THE CITY, SO IF YOU COULD JUST GO OVER THAT. >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY, COMMISSIONER. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING LIKE A LAW THAT -- HERE, THERE IS, THERE IS A LAW THAT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO REQUIRE THEM TO DEDICATE PARKLAND. IF YOU GET A NEIGHBORHOOD OF A CERTAIN SIZE, THE CITY TYPICALLY REQUIRES YOU TO DEDICATE SOME LAND TO A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. HERE, THEY ARE RIGHT AT THE THRESHOLD OF 50, SO WE ARE NOT ABLE TO REQUIRE THAT. SO, TYPICALLY, WHAT HAPPENS IS WE REQUIRE IN LEGAL FEES, WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A PARK, YOU PAY INTO FEES FOR A PARK, THAT THOSE FUNDS GO TO PARKLAND'S DEVELOPMENT. AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. >> I WILL FOLLOW-UP JUST TO CLARIFY ON THAT PART. AND THEN, THE OTHER QUESTION ON THE DESIGNS, SO, WE LOOKED AT THE STYLES FOR THE TWO STORIES, SO, FOR THE SINGLE-STORY HOMES, ARE THOSE GOING TO BE THE SAME STYLES? >> YEAH, MAYBE I CAN --MAYBE I CAN CLARIFY THAT. LET'S SEE. THANK YOU. OH, THAT'S PERFECT. I'M SORRY, BECAUSE THEY ONLY COME IN THREE OF THE FOUR, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW WHICH THREE. OKAY, PERFECT. OKAY, SO, OF THE FIVE FLOOR PLANS, THERE IS ONE SINGLE-STORY FLOORPLAN. IT COMES IN SPANISH, PRAIRIE, AND SPANISH, AND IN EACH OF THOSE COMES IN THREE DIFFERENT COLOR SCHEMES. >> YOU NEVER KNOW, MAY WANT TO MOVE INTO ONE. >> AND THEN, I APOLOGIZE, I JUST HAD A GOOD CORRECTION, IT IS SPANISH, PRAIRIE, AND CRAFTSMEN. THANKS FOR YOUR PATIENCE, THERE, COMMISSIONER. NO PROBLEM. ONE LAST QUESTION, WILL SOLAR PANELS BE INCLUDED IN DESIGN? >> YES, ALL NEW HOMES IN CALIFORNIA NEED SOLAR PANELS, SO THEY WILL REQUIRE THEM AT THE BUILDING PERMIT STATES. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE A COUPLE FOR YOU. LOOKING AT THE WAY THE PROJECT IS LAID OUT, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SEE WHEN YOU DRIVE BY, LOOKING AT THIS DIVISION, AS FAR AS WHAT TYPES OF WALLS, FENCING? >> YES, RIGHT NOW, MY RECOLLECTION OF IT IS THAT THERE IS SOUND WALLS FOR A PORTION OF THAT VIEW --AND I JUST HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT SO I DON'T GET IT INCORRECT --LET ME TAKE A LOOK --OKAY. SO, IT IS AS I RECALL. SO, LET ME ISSUE AN OVERHEAD VIEW OF IT. THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. ALL RIGHT, SO, THE PROPERTY LINE RIDE ALONG BROWNSTONE, THAT WILL ALL BE SOUND WALL AND THEN ENTRANCE, AND THEN BEHIND THE CHURCH, THE RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY, RIGHT NOW, THAT IS SLATED FOR VINYL FENCING. OUR RECORDS SHOW THAT THEY HAD REASON TO MAKE IT THAT WAY, AND THAT THEY CHOSE TO, AND SO -- AND THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL. FOR ME, I AM ASKING THE COMMISSIONER MORE TIME. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GO THROUGH ALL THE RECORDS AGAIN AND MAKE SURE THAT IS WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. >> AND ONE OTHER QUESTION, ON THE SOUTH FACE THERE, WILL THAT BE LANDSCAPE? WHO IS GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT? DO WE KNOW? >> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. AND I DO RECOMMEND, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT TONIGHT, IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, I RECOMMEND THAT WE HAND THAT TO THE DEVELOPER TO ANSWER. YEAH, I DON'T RECALL IT, EXACTLY, AT THIS MOMENT. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> I'M LOOKING AT THE PLANNING STAFF REPORT AND WHEN IT SHOWS THE SUBDIVISION ELEVATIONS, I SEE FIVE ONLINE BUT THERE IS ONLY FOUR, SO WE REMOVED ONE OF THE ELEVATIONS? >> YOU ARE SEEING FIVE ON --LET ME TAKE A LOOK. OKAY, SO, THEY HAVE --YEAH, MAYBE THERE IS -- YEAH, I THINK I CAN CLARIFY THAT. ALL RIGHT, SO, YOUR FLOORPLAN, YOU ARE GOING TO GET FIVE. AND ARE THESE THE FIVE YOU ARE SEEING? OKAY, PERFECT. SO, THE FLOORPLAN, YOU HAVE FIVE OPTIONS. FOR THE STYLE, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT IS DESIGNED AND THE COLORS, THAT IS GOING TO BE FOUR. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DID WE RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE APPLICANT? [ INAUDIBLE -LOW VOLUME ] IT'S JUST A GENERAL QUESTION. IS IT PRETTY STANDARD TO DO THOSE EITHER FENCES OR THE SOUND WALL IN MOST OF THE SUBDIVISIONS? DO YOU KNOW IF THAT'S STANDARD, THESE DAYS? I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAN BE ASKED, NOW. DOES ANYBODY KNOW? >> IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, I CAN ANSWER THAT. OKAY. >> FROM MY EXPERIENCE -- AND FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN -- SEE A MIX OF IT. BUT, I DO KNOW THAT OAKLEY'S DESIGN GUIDELINES DO TRY TO GET SOUND WALL ALL THE WAY AROUND, IN 2007 WITH THIS PROJECT, THEY DID HASH THAT OUT AND ARE TRYING TO MATCH THAT AND IT IS A MIX OF SOUND WALL AND FENCING. OKAY. >> YEAH, I WILL JUST ADD, TYPICALLY, SOUND WALLS ARE SEEN WHERE NEEDED TO BLOCK SOUND FROM ADJACENT ARTERIAL ROADS, OR ROADS WITH HIGH AMOUNTS OF TRAFFIC. IT IS POSSIBLE THE CEQA ANALYSIS FOUND THAT BROWNSTONE FOR GENERAL BUILDOUT OF THE CITY WOULD CREATE ENOUGH NOISE TO REQUIRE A SOUND WALL TO PROTECT THE PRIVATE SPACES OF THE SUBDIVISION. EVAN IS CORRECT THAT THERE IS A LOT OF HISTORY ON THIS PROJECT, WHEN IT COMES TO DEFENSE MATERIALS, OR COMMENTS FROM NEIGHBORS THAT OWNED HORSES TO THE NORTH. I THINK SOME OF THE FENCES UP ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY MAY HAVE BEEN REQUESTED TO BE VINYL, AS WELL. SO, AS EVAN STATED, THERE ARE CONDITIONS IN THIS DESIGN AND WITH THE SUBDIVISION THAT ARE STILL ACTIVE, WHETHER THEY ARE MENTIONED IN THIS RESOLUTION, OR NOT. AND THIS PROJECT IS SUBJECT TO --[ INAUDIBLE -LOW VOLUME ] AND IF WE HAVE FOUR RESOLUTION MAPS, OR WHATEVER, WE WILL DIG IN, WE WILL REVIEW MINUTES, DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE THOSE NEIGHBORS THAT CAME OUT YEARS AND YEARS AGO, AND HAD THEIR WISHES CONDITIONED IN THE PROJECT, WE WILL STILL GET THOSE BUILT ON THE PROJECT. >> AND I JUST WANT TO ADD, WE HAVE REVIEWED MINUTES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, WE FEEL THAT THIS MATCHES THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL. YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T MIND -- [ INAUDIBLE -LOW VOLUME ] >> THANK YOU. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CARDS OR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS. SO, AT THIS TIME, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IT IS TIME TO CALL FOR DELIBERATIONS. COMMISSIONER? WOULD ANY COMMISSIONER LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION. >> I WILL SECOND IT. >> WE HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND. THAT CALLS FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE. >> AYE. >> THANK YOU. MOVING ONTO THE REGULAR CALENDAR, THERE ARE NO REGULAR CALENDAR ITEMS, SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO REPORTS. AND ANY REPORTS FROM STAFF? >> WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF REPORTS. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN PRICE. THE FIRST REPORT IS WE WANT TO LET THE PLANNING COMMISSION NO --I BELIEVE I MAY HAVE EMAILED YOU THIS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE THIS ANNOUNCEMENT, AS WELL --PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ARE INVITED TO THE OPENING ON ICE RIBBON CUTTING, WHICH IS THIS SATURDAY, THE 22nd, 4:45 OF THE ICE RINK. IT IS AN ICE RINK WILL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, RIGHT HERE ACROSS THE STREET ON THE CORNER OF MAIN AND NORCROSS. IT WILL OPERATE DAILY FROM NOVEMBER 21st THROUGH JANUARY 4th OF NEXT YEAR. THE RIBBON-CUTTING WILL INCLUDE A PERFORMANCE BY SAN FRANCISCO ICE THEATER. SAN FRANCISCO ICE THEATER IS A MEMBER OF THE U.S. FIGURE SKATERS ON ICE IN THE FIGURE SKATING CLUB OF SAN FRANCISCO AND FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THE OPENING ON ICE AND TICKET PRICING, PEOPLE WILL VISIT OAKLEYONICE.COM. THE SECOND ANNOUNCEMENT IS THAT THE CITY OF OAKLEY HOLIDAY TREE LIGHTING WILL BE HELD ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 4th, STARTING AT 5:00 P.M. AND IT WILL RUN FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS. IT WILL BE RIGHT HERE AT THE CIVIC CENTER PARK. THE HOLIDAY TREE LIGHTING IS A FAMILY-FRIENDLY EVENT. IT IS FREE, IT HAS FREE ADMISSION AND PARKING, OBVIOUSLY, AND VISITORS CAN ENJOY COOKIES AND COCOA, ARTS AND CRAFTS FOR THE CHILDREN, LIVE ENTERTAINMENT BY LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS. SANTA WILL ALSO BE MAKING A SPECIAL VISIT AND TAKING PICTURES WITH CHILDREN. AND FINALLY, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS A HEADS UP, I WILL PROBABLY FOLLOW UP BY EMAIL TOMORROW, BUT WE FOUND A PLANNING COMMISSIONERS TRAINING JUST THIS AFTERNOON, AND OUR SENIOR PLANNER, JOSE CORTES, WAS WORKING AFTER HOURS TO TRY TO CONTACT THE EVENT ORGANIZERS --I BELIEVE IT WAS IN MARTINEZ, WE WANTED TO KNOW THE COST, WE JUST FOUND OUT THERE WAS NO COST FOR IT. SO, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING THAT, WE WILL SEND OUT MORE INFORMATION TO YOUR EMAILS, SO PLEASE CHECK YOUR EMAILS TOMORROW, SOMETIME IN THE AFTERNOON. YOU SHOULD HAVE THEM BY THEN. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS TIME, WE WILL CALL FROM REPORTS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS, DOES ANY MEMBER HAVE A REPORT TO MAKE? >> I ATTENDED THE RIBBON-CUTTING FOR OUR NEW CHIPOTLE AND STARBUCKS. THOSE LOCATIONS IN OAKLEY, THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL PROPERTIES, AND I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE STAFF'S ENTHUSIASM, AND FROM THE REGIONAL MANAGERS WHO SHOWED UP, SO THEY ARE WONDERFUL BUSINESSES AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THEM IN OAKLEY. >> THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, ANY REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS? >> WOULD WE BE ABLE TO TALK, MAYBE AT SOME POINT, ON A [ INAUDIBLE - LOW VOLUME ] THAT IS TAKING PLACE OFF OF SCHALLER'S AND CYPRESS? I BELIEVE THERE IS A GAS STATION RIGHT NOW, LIKE, JUST THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PIECE OF WHAT IS BEING PUT IN, ANYTIME SOON? >> I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO MAKE THAT AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT I AM HAPPY TO HAVE OUR PLANNING STAFF PUT TOGETHER A PACKET FOR THE NEW COMMISSIONERS WHO MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AROUND WHEN THAT WAS APPROVED, THAT CAN PROVIDE YOU A SUMMARY OF WHAT WAS APPROVED OUT THERE. EVERYTHING FROM THE LAYOUT OF THE SITE, THE LANDSCAPING, IT WAS A PRETTY UNIQUE AND DISTINCTIVE SIGN PROGRAM FOR THAT AREA, SO WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEND THAT TO ALL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU BET. >> THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 8.1, BRIDGEHEAD ROAD PROPERTIES. MR. STRELO? >> YES, THANK YOU, CHAIR. WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM TONIGHT. LET ME GET THAT ON THE PAGE --ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, AND AGAIN, THERE IS SOME NUANCE HERE, SO YOU MIGHT SEE ME RELY ON SOME NOTES, I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. SO, TONIGHT'S WORK SESSION IS BRIDGEHEAD ROAD PROPERTIES PRELIMINARY GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT. FIRST, FOR WHERE WE ARE, WE ARE IN THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF TOWN FROM THE LAST ONE, WE ARE IN THE TOP LEFT CORNER THERE, THE NORTHWEST ALONG BRIDGEHEAD ROAD. NEAR HIGHWAY 160. TO GET YOU A CLOSER LOOK, TONIGHT, WE HAVE THREE PROPERTIES, MAKING UP THE SUBJECT PROJECT SITE. AND IT IS AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF WILBUR AVENUE AND BRIDGEHEAD ROAD. HERE IS A VICINITY MAP. IT'S CURRENT GENERAL PLAN USE DESIGNATION IS BUSINESS PARK. OR, THESE THREE PROPERTIES ARE DESIGNATED BUSINESS PARK. YOU CAN SEE, FROM THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT, THAT IS KIND OF A ZOOM OUT WHERE YOU CAN SEE OAKLEY ROAD AND MAIN STREET, AND A LARGE CORNER OF OAKLEY AND WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIALLY DESIGNATED LAND, THERE. THE RED IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL, THAT IS MORE SERVICES. YOU KNOW, YOU COULD BUILD A RESTAURANT, FOR INSTANCE, A CHEVRON REBUILD OR REMODEL, PROJECTS LIKE THAT. AND THEN, IN BLUE, YOU HAVE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THAT IS WHERE YOU GET LOGISTICS CENTER, YOU GET SMALLER INDUSTRIAL CONDOS. AND THEN, IF WE REALLY ZOOM IN THERE, THAT IS WHERE YOU GET THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT, THE THREE PARCELS THAT ARE THERE ON THE LEFT, THEY ARE IN A DARKER BLUE, THAT IS BUSINESS PARK. AND THEN, TO THE RIGHT THERE, THAT LARGE WALL OF BLUE IS THE LOGISTICS CENTER, YOU KNOW, WAREHOUSING. THAT IS ZONED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THAT IS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF [ INAUDIBLE -LOW VOLUME ] SO, THERE ARE THREE PROPERTIES WE ARE LOOKING AT TONIGHT. 6001 BRIDGEHEAD ROAD IS THE ONE RIGHT ON THE CORNER. IT IS --IT HAS TWO SPACES FOR TENANTS. IT WAS BUILT BEFORE THE CITY INCORPORATED, AND IT COVERS ROUGHLY HALF AN ACRE. THE APPROXIMATELY 9000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING COVERS MOST OF THE SITE, AND IT CURRENTLY HOUSES GM MARBLE AND GRANITE, OPERATED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER. THE MIDDLE PROPERTY, 6113 BRIDGEHEAD ROAD, REMAINED VACANT FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE ITS RECENT OCCUPANCY BY LUMA BUILDERS, A CONTRACTOR CURRENTLY FACING ENFORCEMENT ACTION DUE TO ZONING CONFLICTS THAT PROHIBIT CONTRACTORS YARDS. A CHANGE IN LAND USE DESIGNATION TO LIGHT USE INDUSTRIAL WOULD PERMIT THEM TO OPERATE. THE PROPERTY CONSISTS PRIMARILY OF PARKING AND STORAGE SPACE, WITH A 1400 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING IN THE CENTER OF IT. THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE PROPERTY BEFORE LUMA BUILDERS MOVED IN. NOW, THE FENCING IS SCREENED, AND LUMA BUILDERS USES THAT SPACE AS THEIR OFFICE, IN THE CENTER, AND THEN THEY HAVE THEIR EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES IN THE PARKING AREAS. FINALLY, THE NORTHERNMOST PROPERTY IS 6115 BRIDGEHEAD ROAD. THERE, WE HAVE AN EXISTING BUILDINGS WITH THOSE ROLLUP DOORS. THE TRAILER IS NOT APPROVED TO BE THERE, SO WE ARE TACKLING THAT, AS WELL. AND THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS NOT OCCUPIED --THEY HAVE RECENTLY PURCHASED THE SITE, THEY HAVE NOT ESTABLISHED A BUSINESS ON IT, YET. ALL THREE OF THESE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE THE APPLICANT, THEY HAVE COME TOGETHER TO SUBMIT THIS APPLICATION TONIGHT. TONIGHT IS A WORK SESSION, AND WHY A WORK SESSION? SO, A PRELIMINARY WORK SESSION OFFERS A CHANCE FOR FEEDBACK AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. BECAUSE THIS IS A WORK SESSION, CITY STAFF HAVE NOT CONDUCTED A TYPICAL REVIEW. SO, WHAT THEIR DESIRE IS, THEIR ULTIMATE DESIRE IS ONE OF THE MOST INTENSE LAND-USE APPLICATIONS YOU CAN DO, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE, AND IT IS DISCRETIONARY. SO, YOU CAN DO ALL THAT WORK OF REVIEW AND ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, AND THEN YOU GET TO YOUR DECISION-MAKING BODY, AND THEY CAN SAY, "NO." SO, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A PREDICTABLE DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT, SO WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS, THAT IS WHERE SOMEBODY PUTS DOWN A DEPOSIT OF $2000, ARBITRARILY JUST TO GET IT IN FRONT OF THE DECISION-MAKING BODIES, GET SOME FEEDBACK BEFORE THEY GO INTO THE INTENSIVE LAND-USE PROCESS. IF FEEDBACK IS GOOD, THEN THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, JUMP INTO THAT PROCESS. IF FEEDBACK IS BAD, THEY CAN AVOID IT. AND SO, BECAUSE OF THAT, $2000 PRETTY MUCH COVERS THE PROCESS OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, NOTICING PROJECTS, WRITING THE REPORT. SO, WE HAVEN'T REVIEWED THIS EXTENSIVELY, THE JOB IS JUST TO GET IT TO YOU FOR FEEDBACK AND THAT THE PUBLIC WEIGH IN ON IT, AS WELL FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS WORK --SORRY, JUST SAID THAT --THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S FEEDBACK IS EXPECTED TO BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT A WORK SESSION ON DECEMBER 9th, SO WE TAKE IT TO VOTE AND WE WILL TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK TONIGHT AND PRESENTED THERE. ALL RIGHT, FOR THIS SPECIFIC REQUEST, THIS ITEM IS A REQUEST TO DISCUSS THE MERITS OF A POTENTIAL PROJECT TO AMEND THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES, FROM BUSINESS PARK, TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THE THREE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE JOINTLY FILED FOR A PRELIMINARY GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, CITING MULTIPLE JUSTIFICATIONS FOR THEIR REQUEST. THEY REPORT STRONG MARKET DEMAND FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SPACE, FROM SMALL BUSINESSES SEEKING AVAILABLE RENTAL UNITS, WHICH COULD PROVIDE SUPPORT SERVICES TO THE NEARBY OAKLEY LOGISTICS CENTER. BOTH OWNERS AND PROSPECTIVE TENANTS VIEW THE CURRENT LIST OF ALLOWABLE BUSINESS PARK USES, INCLUDING COPYING FACILITIES AND TRAVEL AGENCIES, AS OUTDATED. THE OWNERS REPORTED MINIMAL INTEREST FROM BUSINESSES THAT ALIGN WITH THE PERMITTED BUSINESS PARK CATEGORIES. FINALLY, THE PROPERTY OWNERS CONSIDER THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT, A SINGLE DEVELOPER ACQUIRING ALL 1.36 ACRES TO BUILD A UNIFIED BUSINESS PARK, AND PRACTICAL GIVEN CURRENT CONDITIONS. WE PROVIDE LIMITED ANALYSIS HERE, FOR THIS TYPE OF APPLICATION. AMENDING THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WOULD MAKE WAY FOR A REASON, TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT, WHICH WOULD THEN AUTHORIZE USES PERMITTED IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE, SUBJECT TO ZONING ORDINANCE REGULATIONS. USE IS CURRENTLY PERMITTED IN BUSINESS PARK ZONES WOULD GENERALLY NO LONGER BE ALLOWED. HOWEVER, BUSINESS PARK DEVELOPMENT WOULD REMAIN VIABLE, IF A DEVELOPER WANTED TO BUILD A BUSINESS PARK HERE. IF OUR THREE PROPERTY OWNERS WENT THROUGH WITH CHANGING THEIR LAND-USE DESIGNATION TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THEY GOT APPROVAL FROM COUNCIL, IN THE FUTURE, IF THERE IS A DEVELOPER WHO WANTS TO BUY ALL THREE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN DO THAT, AND JUST PROPOSE TO COUNCIL TO MAKE IT A BUSINESS PARK AND GO BACK. [ INAUDIBLE -LOW VOLUME ] SO, THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. UNDER THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION, SEVERAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN INFORMED DURING THE BUSINESS LICENSE PROCESS, THAT THEY CANNOT OCCUPY THIS PROPERTY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IS BACKGROUND THAT I KNOW FIRSTHAND, SO I WORK AROUND BUSINESS LICENSES, AND WE FIND THEM AND WE HAVE HAD TO DENY A LOT OF BUSINESS LICENSES FOR THESE PROPERTIES, BECAUSE THEY DON'T MATCH THE BUSINESS PROPERTY. SOMEONE SEES THESE BUILDINGS, WHICH WERE BUILT BEFORE THE CITY INCORPORATED, AND THEY SAY, "OH, THAT LOOKS PERFECT FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, THEY HAVE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL OCCUPANCIES, THEY HAVE ROLLUP DOORS," SO, THEY GO TO MOVE IN, AND WE HAVE TO TELL THEM, "THERE'S A COMP LOCATED LAND-USE HISTORY HERE, WHEN THE CITY WAS INCORPORATED, THE CITY ENVISIONED A BUSINESS PARK REDEVELOPMENT, AND SO THEY HAVE TO FIT INTO THE BUSINESS PARK USES." AND SO, WHAT WE FIND IS, WE ARE DENYING A LOT OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES, THERE. APPROVAL OF A FUTURE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND REZONING APPLICATION WOULD ENABLE SUCH BUSINESSES TO OPERATE HERE. GIVEN THAT THE PRIMARY STRUCTURES' EXISTING BUILDING OCCUPANCY CLASSIFICATIONS ACCOMMODATE INDUSTRIAL USES, IT IS UNLIKELY THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES WOULD REQUIRE MAJOR TENANT IMPROVEMENTS OR PROPERTY REDEVELOPING. BUSINESS PARK DEVELOPMENT WOULD REQUIRE FULL SITE REDEVELOPMENT. THIS IS AN ADVISORY WORK SESSION ONLY, SO THERE IS NO VOTE HERE, THERE IS NO PROCESS TO APPROVE A PROJECT BECAUSE OF THIS WORK SESSION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY ACT IN AN ADVISORY ROLE TO THE CITY COUNCIL. STAFF MAY INCLUDE THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS CONSENSUS DIRECTION FROM THIS MEETING --OR, SORRY, WE WILL INCLUDE THE CONSENSUS DIRECTION FROM THIS MEETING -- [ INAUDIBLE -LOW VOLUME ] SO WE ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ON WHETHER IT IS APPROPRIATE TO CHANGE THIS LAND-USE DESIGNATION. AND, HERE IS JUST A VISUAL. SO, AGAIN, EXISTING AND PROPOSED, TRYING TO MATCH WHAT IS NEARBY. I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. I HAVE --IT IS TOUGH TO ORGANIZE THAT MANY PROPERTY OWNERS. AND SO, I BELIEVE --OH, NICE. OKAY, SO, I HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNERS, AND WE CAN ASK THEM IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK --I DON'T RECALL, UNFORTUNATELY, EXACTLY WHAT WE DISCUSSED. IF IT PLEASES THE COMMISSION, YOU CAN ASK. I APPRECIATE IT, COMMISSIONERS, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK IF -- WITH OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE EXISTING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, ARE THERE ANY POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL LIABILITIES, OR ANY COSTS THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE BORNE BY THE CITY WITH THESE CHANGES? >> YEAH, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. SO, ONE OF THE REASONS --ONE OF THE REASONS THE GENERAL PLAN PROCESS IS EXPENSIVE, IS THEY DO NEED A CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT ANALYSIS, AND SO, THAT IS REALLY THE MAJOR COST WHEN THEY DO THIS. SO, YES, WE DO HAVE TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF HOW THAT CHANGE FROM BUSINESS PARK TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL HAPPENS. AND THEN, IF IT WERE TO HAPPEN, IT IS A REGULATED PROCESS FOR ESTABLISHING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. IT DOESN'T INHERENTLY MEAN THAT THERE WILL BE DANGEROUS USES THERE, OR OVERLY INTENSE. AND LET'S SAY THAT WE DO CHANGE IT, OUR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SECTION OF OUR CODE ALREADY HAS PERMITTED USES THAT ARE LIGHTENED, NOT AS INTENSE, AND CONDITIONALLY PERMITTED USES ARE ALREADY IN THERE, SO IF SOMETHING IS MORE INTENSE, WE HAVE TO BRING IT TO YOU FOR AN ADDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THAT HAS TO BE ANALYZED BY ITSELF. FOR ITS SPECIFIC USE. YEAH, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU. >> SO, FOR THE OWNERS THAT ARE HERE, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS MORE LIKE, WHAT IS THE REVISION THAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT? LIKE, WHAT IS IT --WHAT IS YOUR VISION, AS YOU ALL COME TOGETHER? I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. >> EXCUSE ME, CHAIR? >> MR. TORRES --OH, GO AHEAD. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY, IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOMEONE SPEAK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE SHOULD ASK THEM, BECAUSE THEY ARE AN APPLICANT, TO FILL OUT A PUBLIC SPEAKER CARD AND COME UP TO THE PODIUM. >> WOULD YOU MIND JUST COMING UP AND FILLING OUT A SPEAKER CARD? EITHER ONE OF YOU. >> YOU CAN DO THE SPEAKER CARD AFTER, THAT'S FINE. >> OKAY. >> [ INAUDIBLE -LOW VOLUME ] >> NO, WE CAN DO IT AFTER AND YOU CAN SPEAK NOW, THAT'S FINE. >> WE JUST WANT TO FIT IN WITH, LIKE, THE REST OF THE PEOPLE AROUND US. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO RENT OUT THE SMALL UNIT NEXT TO PART OF MY BUILDING, THE SMALLER UNIT, AND IT HAS BEEN PROBABLY 15 APPLICANTS THAT GOT DENIED, SO IT JUST SHOWS YOU THAT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND SOMEONE TO TAKE ON THIS SPACE. A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, LIKE MYSELF, NEEDS TO SURVIVE, ESPECIALLY DURING THIS TIME. JUST LIKE THE OTHER TWO. SO, WE JUST WANT TO FIT IN, JUST LIKE THE REST OF US. >> AND ARE YOU THINKING JUST WHEN YOU SAY "FIT IN," I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF, LIKE, WHAT -- WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, RIGHT? TANGIBLY, I KNOW YOU WANT TO RENT OUT SPACE, BUT, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING TO --I GUESS, WHEN I AM THINKING LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, I AM THINKING, HOW DO WE CREATE THE SPACE THAT YOU HAVE, TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE FOR --ALSO, AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CASE, RIGHT? LIKE, WE CAN RE-CREATE WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE, TO --I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE, OKAY? LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE, A BREWERY, RIGHT? THAT IS ALREADY --AND THEY ALREADY HAVE THE --IF WE ALREADY HAVE THE STRUCTURES THERE, COULD IT BE A POTENTIAL BUSINESS? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT? OR, IS IT MORE, LIKE, OFFICE SPACE, STORAGE UNIT? I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, WHAT, EXACTLY, YOU ENVISION? >> THE LIST RIGHT NOW IS --RIGHT NOW, A DAY CARE CAN BE ON THE LIST WITH A ROLLUP DOOR LIKE THAT AND THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, WHATSOEVER. SO I THINK THE REZONING IS JUST TO MAKE IT MORE FITTING --COUNTY OFFICES DON'T HAVE ROLLUP DOORS LIKE THAT. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. SO, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A PERFECT WAY TO, LIKE, ANSWER THAT. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, NOTHING WORKS. >> OKAY. OKAY. >> [ INAUDIBLE -LOW VOLUME ] >> OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WE CAN COME BACK WITH PROPOSED IDEAS, RIGHT? HE SAID, BY DECEMBER 9th FOR THE CITY COUNCIL? OR, HOW WOULD THAT WORK? WE ARE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK TONIGHT ON JUST THE CHANGE IN THE LAND-USE, AND THEN WE TAKE THAT FEEDBACK, WE ADD IT TO OUR REPORTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN WE ASK THEM THE SAME QUESTION WE ARE ASKING YOU. ON DECEMBER 9th, WE WILL ASK COUNCIL --SO, WE ARE ASKING FOR FEEDBACK TONIGHT. >> SO, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE BUSINESS PARK USE. SO, QUESTION JUST IS IN REGARDS TO --DO WE HAVE OTHER BUSINESS PARK SITTING AT THE CITY? AND DOES THIS POTENTIALLY CREATE A SITUATION WHERE THERE IS BUSINESS PARK ZONING, WHERE HERE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO CHANGE, BUT IN AN OTHER AREA, IT WOULD NOT? WOULD THIS CREATE A PRESIDENT OR A PROBLEM FOR US IN THE FUTURE --AYE. [ INAUDIBLE -LOW VOLUME ] >> YEAH, LET ME CONFIRM MY RECOLLECTION. I WILL CHECK WITH THE BOSS, HERE. BUSINESS PARK IS NOT A VERY, I GUESS, HIGH ACREAGE TYPE OF LAND USE IN THE CITY. I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MAYBE TO THE EAST THAT IS CURRENTLY PART OF ANOTHER APPLICATION FOR A REASON IN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE FOUND THAT THE BUSINESS PARK IS CHALLENGING IN THE TYPES OF USES, USUALLY FOR THAT ZONING AND DESIGNATION. SO, IN THIS CASE, THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THOSE OPEN THESE SITES UP TO MUCH MORE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY, OR USE ALLOWANCES. AND BENEFIT FOR THE CITY WITH THAT IS, ANY SORT OF MAJOR DEVELOPMENT ON THESE LOTS, LET'S SAY IN THE FUTURE, SOMEONE WERE TO COME IN AND BUY ALL THREE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CITY GETS OUT OF THAT, OR THINGS LIKE FRONTAGE IMPROVEMENTS, MAYBE UTILITY CONNECTIONS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO, THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS BROUGHT UP BY THE BENEFIT OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, AND FOR THOSE, AND FOR THE CITY, AS WELL, AND FOR RESIDENTS OF THE CITY. I WOULD SAY THAT, DURING MY TIME HERE, I CAN'T REMEMBER EVER PROCESSING AN APPLICATION FOR USE IN BUSINESS PARK. SO, IT DOES SEEM TO BE AN UNPOPULAR ZONING. AND WHEN I SAY "ZONING," I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL PLAN, BUT THE ZONING NEEDS TO APPLY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE ZONING NEEDS TO BE AN ALLOWABLE CONDITION FOR LAND USES. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? RECOMMENDATIONS? I MEAN, I THINK I WOULD SUPPORT SENDING THIS TO CITY COUNCIL TO SUPPORT THIS, I THINK STAFF WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER BUSINESS PARK ZONING IN THE AREA AND SEE IF IT IS AN ISSUE --[ INAUDIBLE -LOW VOLUME ] >> AND KNOWING THAT THERE ARE GUARDRAILS IN PLACE AS FAR AS POTENTIAL CEQA COMPLIANCE, ALL OF WHAT GOES WITH THAT, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE GO AHEAD. >> I WOULD GIVE MY SUPPORT. I DO HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH. IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THEY WANT TO DO ANY CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY, WITH THAT STILL REQUIRE CEQA? >> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S FRUSTRATING FOR THE APPLICANTS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS, THEY FEEL THAT THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO USE IT AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS, SO THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THE FREEDOM TO DO THAT. STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT YOU NEED CEQA ANALYSIS BECAUSE OF THE POSSIBILITY -- THE POSSIBILITIES FOR THE LAND TO CHANGE. YEAH, IT'S A TOUGH PART OF IT FOR THEM. >> I WOULD ALWAYS LIKE TO VOICE MY SUPPORT, WE ARE NOT GOING TO VOTE ON THIS, I BELIEVE THIS IS JUST FEEDBACK FOR THE COUNCIL. IS THERE ANY MORE COMMENTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PUT FORWARD? OKAY, SO, NO VOTE IS REQUIRED. WE MOVED TO THE LAST ITEM, BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.