Village Community Development District No. 5

Good morning. Sorry, I didn't mean to wake everybody up with that. Um, welcome to the District five Board of Supervisors meeting. Uh, we always begin with our roll call of supervisors, supervisor Schweikert. Here, supervisor Noel. Here, supervisor Licey present, supervisor Martin Present. And I'm Gary Cato. Your chair today, uh, we begin with the Pledge of Allegiance, followed by a brief moment of silence. I would ask you and during the moment of silence, to keep in mind Mr. Gilbert Windsor, who was a supervisor, uh, district seven, who passed away last Monday, if you would. I pledge allegiance to the flag, the United States of America to the Republic, which stand stands. One Nation under God, individual with liberty, I justice for all. May be seated. Okay. I am amazed. We have quite a turnout today. A lot of familiar faces for a December meeting. We usually don't draw that many people in December with the holidays moving it up might have been a good idea after all. Uh, those of you that are new to our meetings, these meetings are resident meetings. Uh, we are elected by the residents within our district. When you come to the meeting, uh, you have a right to speak on any items that are on the agenda. Uh, if you wish to be recognized as we're talking about the particular item, please raise your hand, be recognized by the chair. At that point, you would then step to the podium, give us your name, give us your address. And normally we have about three minutes, uh, in replies. Uh, sometimes there are exceptions, which really rare. Uh, secondly, if it is not on the agenda and there's something you wish to talk about at the end of the meeting, anything can be discussed with your Board of supervisors. Again, same procedure, be recognized and step to the podium. But it's good to see so many people here today. Welcome. We begin today with the administration of offices, newly elected supervisors. We have three supervisors who are beginning new terms. Uh, uh, Mr. Jerry fei, Mr. Walter Martin, and Mr. Mark Schweikert. Congratulations, gentlemen. Very good. Seems like I've been around here for decades. I believe you have been there for decades. Mark knows new though. And who is gonna be administered in the oath. I can Administer the oath. So if you can please stand and raise your right hand. As a citizen of the state of Florida, United States of America, Being employed by, or an officer, a village community, developing district number five and a recipient of public funds, do you hereby solemnly swear or affirm that you support the Constitution of the United States and Of the state of Florida? I do. Okay. Thank you. Welcome for another four year term, guys ready to go. Okay. Next item on the agenda and nomination. Uh, as is the case, each time there is an election, we have to nominate again for chair of the supervisory board, vice chair, and also do our committee assignments. So we'd open up with, uh, chair and nominations for chair. I'll make a motion to nominate Gary Cato as chair and Mark Schweitzer as vice chair. Okay. Is there a second to that? I would second Gary Cadel. I can't necessarily second myself. Yeah, I don't think we could do two at once. Okay. Thank you. We can do one at a time, one at a time. Uh, do you wanna do ballot or open? You do either way. Just open or either open. You can just do it open. Uh, we'll limit the motion to, um, the chairman and then we'll take a motion for the vice chair. Okay. Uh, I have been nominated for chair. There's no other nominations. I'll second your nomination. Thank you. Appreciate that. Okay. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. So be it. Now we can take the nomination for the vice chair Nominations for vice chair Nominated Mark Schweitzer as vice chair. Okay. Mark, I know you're new, but you have, have had quite an impact. So, uh, I would second that. Okay. All those in any other nominations. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Okay. Congratulations. Committee assignments, committees have functioned extremely well. Uh, we're pleased with that. I know, Walter, you've been handling our investment advisory committee. Yep. Uh, and have done an outstanding job. We've had a very good year, by the way, on our investments, which I'm sure you're all aware of. Very good year. Uh, PA, which is the Project Wide Advisory Committee. Pretty important committee. Um, we have two folks that have been covering that, which is, uh, Mr. Lesi, Jerry Lesi, and also Jerry Noel. Uh, you've been sharing that responsibility. Uh, are you willing to do that and continue with that? I am, Yes. I'll Continue. Okay. Walter, you also on your committee? Yeah, I don't think there's any other ones I can think of. Counselor, do you think of any other ones? We Do have the multimodal path Discussion group. Um, It's, it's a separate here though. It, It is. So yes. You'll, you'll identify Representation. Okay. So those are the committee assignments. All those in favor of keeping them the same. So you can by saying Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? That was easy. Okay. Thank you. Under new business, uh, we have approval of the minutes from our last meeting. All of you have received the package. Uh, for the audience's benefit, if it looks like we're running through quickly, it's because we get these about a week in advance. So we have time to study 'em, ask questions, meet with the admin if we need to. We're not just zipping through it. We know exactly what's in there. Uh, so as far as approval of the minutes, I know you read them. Any changes to the minutes? Any modifications, adjustments? Okay. We need a motion to accept the minutes. So moved. Second. The minutes. Be accept. Second. Okay. We have three seconds. Walter, you moved. Uh, get adopted. Mr. Noll, I think we're all set. We'll take you as our second on this. Okay. Minutes are approved. Um, now Mr. Chairman, we just need to call the vote on. Oh, vote we vote. I'm sorry guys. It's early morning. Okay. All those in favor of accepting the minutes signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Sorry. Have a sick wife at home. Did not sleep last night. Very well. I'm referring. So. Okay. Board consideration Item two A. This is the adoption of resolution, uh, 2 25 dash two. Establishment participation of multimodal path Discussion group. There's a document including in there that explains the responsibilities, the frequency of the meetings, which would be three times a year. Uh, this proposed group, uh, mainly deals with safety on multimodal pass and make recommendations and suggestions. Does not have the power to enact because it is a total group representing many of the districts. I believe seven at this point. Am I correct on that? Cliff? All but two all but two. Okay. But again, act, any action on any recommendations from this group has to be approved by the district boards, individual district boards. That's where the authority lies. So you would get to approve anything that's suggested? Um, we need a motion whether to adopt this, correct? Yes. We would need a motion to adopt resolution 2025 dash two. Okay. Any discussion on this? Uh, just a refresher that the, uh, discuss discussion group will meet three times. Is that times a year the minimum, or is that the maximum three times a year? That is a recommendation. If we, we require an extra meeting, we could always schedule that, but I think that frequency would be acceptable the most. Okay. So we have a motion. We have a second. I'll second It. Okay. All those in favor? So signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? So moved. Next item on the agenda. Old business. Old business status update. Yes. Good Morning board. Um, there are two items on your old business tracking sheet. Um, the first is to track your deed compliance complaints for, um, a one year period. So that will continue to remain on old business. And you'll review that, um, in, at your November board meetings. Um, the second item was a review of the land landscaping concerns on Eagle Ridge Drive. Um, staff did receive the quotes from the contractor, um, late yesterday. Um, so there is a copy before you of that information. I have that. Um, and Mr. Wiley is here to, um, from district property management to address the two proposals, um, as well as, you know, staff's recommendation. Okay. Mr. Wiley, if you could introduce yourself and your title please. Good morning. Hersel Wiley, district Property Management Assistant Director. Morning sir. Morning sir. We did take a look, uh, a couple times here at the area in question. And we did have our landscaping contractor come out this week and give some proposals. One proposal was just to do the section with ground cover, which is not the original design intent, so that is not a recommendation. And the second proposal is to do the complete area on Mr. Schwartz property. And the neighbor, which is, um, 11,558. That would be, uh, that would require approval by the Landscaping Contra, um, landscaping engineer Michael Paper and Associates. That's, uh, over $11,000, 11,000 558 85 to change that intent. Okay. After looking at both of these options and the original design intent, uh, the district and DPM would like to make the recommendation as we maintain it as is with the sod in place as the original design intent that is approved. Okay. And this is district property, not personal property of any residence? That is correct, sir. This is District five property. Okay. Uh, my understanding is both proposals were discussed. Yes, sir. You were instructed to go out and meet with the resident. Have you have done so? Yes, sir. Our supervising crew also met with Mr. Okay. Can you give me a thumbnail overview of how that went? Uh, from the feedback that I got yesterday, it didn't go very well. Uh, Mr. Schwartz became confrontational and very irritated. So I understand that the meeting was cut short and that was, uh, what took place. Okay. Uh, neighbor came out. There was loud talking profanity, things of that nature. The neighbor came out and wanted to know what was going on, and that's when the, the, uh, meeting was cut short with our staff. Okay. I have a reporter. I got on that already. I got it late last night, so I can see that in here. Okay. Um, board of supervisors, I know you did not get this quickly because it just came out about 5:00 PM last night. Uh, but it did come back. It basically said the exact same thing that was just reported to us. If you recall, in our last meeting, uh, there was a question regarding this. The fact that it is district property really puts it under total our total discretion as to what we do, how we do, or if we do anything. Uh, but normally we try and do everything we can to work with our residents. I recommended at that last meeting, that this meeting take place, look at different options, meet with the resident, uh, which I felt was a proper thing to do. Uh, my understanding is that did not go well, um, to say the least. And, uh, at this point, your recommendation is to leave it as is Correct, sir? As sir District property? Yes, sir. We maintain that the same way we do other properties. Yes, sir. Is that correct? As is. Okay. I know it's kind of new surprise to you guys. Any questions here? Any more information you need? No. I'm wondering why we wouldn't want to try to accommodate the, uh, the resident. We did, uh, we went out there with two proposals. Both were presented and both were rejected By the, by the, uh, homeowner. Yes. He is here today. Yes, sir. I I didn't hear that part. Well, we'll hear. Well, both Parts were rejected by the homeowner. So yes, the intent is to maintain the sod as is what we had recommended. The other option would be to install ground cover that requires no maintenance, very little maintenance. I'll correct that. There'll be no mowing, no weed eating. You know, the, the, the concern was scalping of the, of the sod that is there now. So, but that is not the design intent, I underst to Understand. Yes, sir. But I, if I recall, I think the initial complaint was that, uh, he, the homeowner complained about, uh, Wasn't maintained, Wasn't no, it wasn't maintained. But the weed wacker cut deeply into the side. Yes, sir. That was my understanding of the original complaint that they had scalped the district by property area cutting it too short, mowing it too short. Or they had scalped it with a weed eater, the landscaping contractor. Any other questions? Supervisor Wacker, Mr. Noll? Could I, could I ask how, how wide is this? No, I went out and looked at it. It seems like it's a pretty narrow area. It is a very small area. We're talking square foot and 150 square foot landscapers. The landscapers are usually cutting grass. The lawnmowers on our 36 48 inches. Correct. So I can see why they're not hitting that for the lawnmower. I believe that's, that's why they're using the weed eater. It's so small not to get their lawnmower in that area. And so a weed eater, it's really not designed ideal. Not a space. That's what'll be, when I looked at it, it seemed like it maybe a foot, maybe a foot and a half. It, it's a little, it's a little bigger than that. Um, speak to the mic. It, I, I see where the problem is because when they hit that with a weed whacker, they're not getting it smooth. And if I recall the homeowner was, uh, I'm trying to remember how he described himself, but he, he, he suggest we're gonna hear it from the homeowner. He's here today. He was a perfectionist and he thought it should look really nice the way he maintains his yard. Yes, sir. Um, so I can see where there might be a problem. Um, I'd like to hear from him. I, I, I've heard what you've said. I'd like to hear his side of it. Um, but you know, I did go out and look at it and it doesn't seem like it should be a big, big deal, Frank. No, I don't think it is either. Okay. That's, that's my comment. Okay. The, the only concern I have, and to be honest with you, I'll be straightforward if what I read here is true and it's just what I get from our people going out there basically saying the way they were received, the way they were spoken to, uh, the fact that both proposals were turned down and unacceptable. Uh, I guess I look at from the standpoint, we will bend over backwards for a resident to try and accommodate. And I think there's residents sitting here today that know that I know Mr. Shields is here and we did some stuff with him and some others. Uh, but one thing we don't tolerate is when we send people out there, if they're treated rudely, uh, if there is shouting, if there is profanity used, that's not tolerated. We're trying to help the resident. We're not out there to take any kind of grief or go from anyone. The report that came back was disturbing to me last night and I made some calls on it to try and follow up, but I'm interested in hearing what you have to say, Mr. Schwartz. So if you'd like to step up, give us your name, your address before Mr. Schwartz address. Yes, sir. I'm just quick. Um, my concern in part is what we do for one, we do for all that's correct. And we've got property that is actually district owned and we are maintaining it. Now, there may be an issue in terms of the level of maintenance or the, or was it acceptable in terms of it, final condition, don't precedent. And maybe we need to look at that and do something to, to improve that. Um, but uh, as far as having a resident maintain district property, I think we're opening ourselves up for all kinds of potential problems. Well, I think it's in terms of liability and if something happen and somebody gets injured, so, um, yeah. And we, we discuss that if we do anything and we would approve anything like that, uh, yes, you set the precedent. Any other resident that came afterwards that wanted something special done on their particular piece of land or entrance way. Mm-hmm. If we did not do that, then we would be liable for, uh, selective enforcement, which I'm sure our attorney's very familiar with. And that's the last thing we want to get involved in. So what we attempted to do, what we were trying to do goes over and above what we would normally do. And I think at this point, if I'm, what I'm reading is correct, we will take a look from the standpoint and make sure the maintenance is done properly, that it's cut properly, but make no changes to it whatsoever. So, and I, your name and address again sir? Uh, Ted Schwartz, and I'm at 1235 Eagle Ridge. And this is my neighbor. She's on the other side. Uh, Angie Williams. Okay. Um, if you look at the, the lot lines, that packet I gave you guys last time with the colorful, um Yep. Envelope, uh, the, um, the, the Village's landscaping is greatly overgrowing. The lot lines. And we don't care about that. Leave it alone. Um, I'm absolutely shocked at the, uh, price you guys got for, uh, doing the ground cover. That's ridiculous. One of my options when I was here last time is just tell the maintenance crews to stop cutting the grass. We share the same landscaper. The landscaper, uh, for a couple years, I, this is my third winter here, was cutting the grass. Now all of a sudden they're, the maintenance crews are cutting the grass and yes, they can use a lawnmower, they can use the big lawnmower. They don't have to use a weed wagon. The problem is they're weed whacking half of my front lawn. That's beyond your lot lines. That's the problem. They're damaging my lawn and it looks ridiculous. You, you drive up, my grass is cut and I, it's, it's the, um, St. Augustine, it's gotta be three inches high. They're scalping it and every time they cut it's different. Okay. So I don't want you guys spending the 11,000. That's a ridiculous number. I used to be a builder. I kicked that out of there so fast. It's the, they're ripping you off. That's a horrible price for, for the work that's being done. Um, just stop cutting it. Let us cut it. Take it off the rolls. Please can't do that. We will keep it nice. Our landscaper doesn't charge us anything. It's just a little strip. They, they, they, they just keep insisting on doing that. That I'm saying why. But again, once we do that and allow you to cut district property, we set a precedent and any other resident come in and say the same thing. I don't want you cutting it. I want to cut it. If we say no, then we're gonna go, then we're have a liability. Am I correct counselor? We can be sued for that. We can't, we can't do that. I understand that. Yeah. So, so the unfortunately, so it's a, it's a legality, but what can be done, uh, first of all, we need to work together a little more cooperatively. I don't know if this took place 'cause I wasn't there. I can only know what our people tell us. But you get one side story, you don't hear what, what I'm hearing coming in the insistent. So it's basically everything for the villages and not really necessarily the villages. Everything for the landscape company, their maintenance crews and nothing for us. You know, they can just come on and just make a mess and make my property look ridiculous. Mm-hmm. It looks, it's, you can't believe how stupid it looks. It's like, just stop cutting it. Let us do it. My landscaper doesn't charge us anything. Well, the bottom, it's such a small piece. The bottom line is we can't let you do it. Okay. That's, that's the problem. Now that doesn't mean it has to look the way it is now. Uh, I'm quite sure we can pay a little more attention to that. Am I correct And make sure that it is done properly and that it blends in and we'll go out and we can also check that to make sure it's being done. But what we can't do is say to you, yes, you can go ahead on Villages property. You can cut that, you can take care of that. That will not happen no matter what. If you look at this original design plan, okay, the maintenance crews aren't reading this properly. Okay. The big problem I have is this is my home right here. Okay? The bush is on and there's a straight line right there. Yep. Uh, perpendicular to the street. Right? I've seen it. Yeah. They're cutting this way at an angle. And like I said, every time they cut it's different. And sometimes it's actually literally half of my problem. You live in Patio Village, it's a postage stamp. It, you know, and they can't tell me you can't use a lawnmower because you can, it can be the wide lawnmower because half mower's on the street and the other half is on the grass. And that cuts it nice and easy. And when they show up at these weed whackers, they just, they don't care. And, and the fact that there, there's, there's nothing protecting me from them taking their wheat whacker and, and chopping the hell out of my front yard and they just keep doing it. And when I ask the guys, nobody will work with me. Nobody has any common sense. It's so frustrating. And yes, you know, you talk about me being a perfectionist, I was AED home builder, I was a cus uh, a commercial builder, but I was also a home inspector. Right. And so I'm sorry if my eye is critical, but I challenge any one of you guys to let your neighbor scalp half your front lawn and that's what's happening. Yeah. And the thing is, is when you look at the original plan, they're going with this plan where this is the street and you see these lines. Yep. All right. Here's the thing they're missing. Look at this strip right here, and here's the street. So that's telling me either they gotta cut, uh, two foot of all the way across the front of my property, or they gotta stop. Or we need, we, we maintain this, this is, this is the village property right here. Not here. You see, that's what I understand what you're saying. We really, to solve this problem, we need to have a meeting on site so I can show you guys what's going on. Didn't the people come over to your home and take a look at it? No. Uh, where did you Walter Martin called me. Where did you meet? Uh, two people came over to meet with you and they, uh, said they got in a confrontation and that you used profanity, this and everything else, Adam, that we don't tolerate. I've with, you know, that the maintenance crews about four times. And every time when you say the crew, you talking about the people coming cutting it or the people that were in charge? The people that it, our administrator and the supervisor who whoever's running the cruise is there. And I keep asking him, can you guys stop doing this? Okay. But let me stop you there. First of all, the people that come out, we have an enormous number of landscapers here. Oh yeah. This place is 90 square miles right now. Probably an exceeded that, that we take care of. So yes, they're gonna change. Different people are gonna come out, they're gonna do it different ways. And your, your particular case, I don't know who does it, but I would venture to guess it's not the same person all the time coming out and they're in a hurry and they're gonna work through right now that we know that we can monitor, that, we can watch that, we can make sure it doesn't happen. If you have a problem, you can notify administration, not get outta confrontation with the landscapers. Because to be honest with you, they don't really care. No, they don't. They're just out there to cut. That's their job. You don't hire 'em because of their, you know, number of degrees they hold. Okay. They work the labor and that's wonderful. We need them. Yes. On the other hand, you getting into discussion with them or confrontation doesn't help the situation. We send administrators out there to meet with you, to talk with you. These are our people and they're very, very skilled and they do a hell of a job for us. Yeah. And that did not go well. And I find that a little disturbing. Yep. I I understand what you're, if you talk to 'em like they're the landscapers, you're not gonna get anything your way. I can tell you that right now. But the bottom line is we are willing to work with you to the point where we cannot allow you to do it, but we can correct the situation to the best of our ability. You can monitor that. And if it does not go the way it was agreed upon, you call this gentleman right here and you get his direct line and you let him know, or one of his representatives, and that's, that should resolve the problem. But if, if you are intent upon doing it yourself and cutting it legally, we cannot allow you to do that. And if you do that, then you're trespassing on villages property and they, and they threaten to call, call the police on me if I, if I, uh, try to go over and, and make things nice. The problem is, is, you know, being a business owner myself, I, I know I used don't fight businesses at any one time. The problem is turnover. Mm-hmm. And that's why, um, every time they cut it's something different. And I understand turnover, you know? Mm-hmm. But, uh, and I understand how hard it is to supervise and that's why I'm just telling you guys, the only solution that's gonna stop this conflict is let us maintain it. I don't understand why this is so difficult. I'm not asking you to spend any money. I'm actually asking you to do less. I'm asking to do something to, for the villages to, to make this look as nice as possible, which is gonna benefit everybody that comes through the neighborhood because we're the first thing they see when they enter our neighborhood. I, this is what's frustrating for me is there's no common sense here. Please just let us maintain it and stop the madness because I'm telling you it's gonna happen over and over and over. And I can't tell you how much it bothers me when somebody comes in and they chop the hell outta my front lawn. It's frustrating. I want my lawn, I want it to look as nice as possible because to me, that's the most neighborly thing I can do. Mm-hmm. I would never make my property look terrible. Never. Okay. We're we're all in the same room this morning. Counselor. What? Gimme your read on this thing. What can be done on something like this? You, a district can't permit a property owner to maintain under any circumstances. No. No. That's a law Mr. Chairman. You can't do it. Can't do it. Mr. Well, can you just turn a blind eye, please Be practical, Mr. Schwartz, Mr. Chairman, uh, and Mr. Wiley, um, I have a patio bill. My job is to maintain my property. The district's job is to maintain the district property and where the line is that can be determined. They've got all kinds of information that says the line is here or it's here. Mm-hmm. Wherever it is, is wherever it is. Um, you have a, a great deal of pride in your own property and I appreciate that and you maintain it and you do a good job. Um, us as an elected officials can't just say, okay, for you, we'll, we'll turn a blind eye as you said, it's just not gonna happen. Then we're, we're complicit in that. I think. Mr. Wiley, would it be possible for you to, to, to, or your, your representatives to go out to Mr. Schwartz's property and say, here's where the line is. Absolutely. I and bring the MR and say to Mr. Schwartz, you maintained to here. And then we talk to our contractors and say, you maintained to here. You don't go over there. You stay on your side of the line. Mr. Schwartz will stay on his side of the line and both will do the best they can to do a good job. Absolutely. And hopefully that'll resolve the issue. Yes, sir. I, I'll be willing to meet Mr. Schwartz on site next week. I'll go out personally and meet with him and meet with the crew and we'll meet on site. Cordial. You're shaking your head. You're not willing to accept that you don't wanna do that. Is that correct? No, it's, you got, you're, you're, you're not gonna get what he wants. You're with all the turnover in the different crew. You, you can't give him what he wants. I understand. And we, we've said it over and over. I'm not exactly sure where we can go with this. You're saying what, what we can do, and we are really going above and beyond what we normally do. We're trying to accommodate you. I I move, I totally understand your side, but you guys are missing that. It's so variable. It every every week is different. There's, you can say, we can meet and say here's the line, but it's always different crews. And you know, it may, you may have the same employee for six months and it's going great, but then they change it. It's just gonna be an ongoing Okay. I understand. Frustration on my part. Okay. And basically the bottom line is you're not being good neighbors when you keep encroaching and, and damaging my front lawn. There's no resolution here. I will be frustrated forever because this is never gonna be corrected. The only solution is this. Just stop cutting it. There is enough. Okay. Let your neighbor have a word on the floor. Jerry, Andrew Williams and I live Georgia. Did you, did you have something you wanted to say? Somebody spoke of? Yes ma'am. Could I have your name and your address please? Can we the ground Cover, because if there's ground Cover your name and your address please. Oh, 1247 Eagle Ridge. I'm right beside him. And your name? Angie Williams. Okay, thank you. Um, if we put ground cover, that would eliminate being mowed. So there's the solution Ground cover, Then he doesn't have to worry about people coming over mowing. It's covered. It looks nice. It's done. So the ground cover would be acceptable. Oh yeah. To say if we get the ground cover, we don't have to worry about any of this anymore. Well, isn't that what these two proposals are? That's what, yeah, that's what we talked about. Why I was focusing on, um, letting us maintain it. Because you know, I I I really don't want to watch you guys spend $11,000 on ground cover. I think it's a ridiculous price. But if you guys were willing to do that, that is the solution. The other problem that I have though, um, is I would just want an assurance that we have some final say so in where they place the ground cover. Because talking to the, the, the crews, uh, on site, they want do this ridiculous line at a diagonal across the front of my lawn with front. They pla they place it where we tell them to place it. Yeah. Simple as that. And if, if they would follow and if we, if we did decide to do that line, this works. I understand that. But I would like to meet with them and get an assurance on the job. Like, okay, um, this is my interpretation, this is here and this is here. And if that's where the ground cover's going, boy, we're happy. We're happy. All right. My recommendation, my suggestion would be if you, if you're willing to go out there Yes sir. Sit down, take a look at the line, come to a reasonable conclusion. I don't want any confrontation. If we hear that, it's gonna end immediately that I won't tolerate. Okay. And if you, any profanity is used, it'll stop at that point too. I know you, you're passionate, man. I can tell. But these people know what the heck they're doing and we trust them. They're our folks and we take care of a lot of property. So if they're willing to come down, sit down with you, come up with a reasonable and agreeable way of handling this thing. If it's ground cover and we can do it at a reasonable cost, fine. If that satisfies you and you can both walk away and say, great, here's the line, here's what we're gonna do, it ends. I that's something you would, uh, totally. Totally. And I'm, as I said last time I was here, it pains me to come to this meeting. I understand. And make any kind of complaint about the villages because villages is absolutely beautiful. The level of maintenance is incredible. I I I tell people, I can't believe that the Morris family, uh, spends as much money and everything on the amount of landscaping. If they did half the landscaping in the villages, this place would still be beautiful. I am so appreciative of how generous they are with us, you know, but just for some reason got this odd design, uh, in between our two properties and then what's been going on with the weed wacking. It's just beyond, you know, it's frustrating that Okay. I just, I'm so happy we everyth. I'm, I'm gonna cut this short because we have other discuss too. So we are in agreement. Yes, sir. Two of you can meet. Yes, sir. Would you let me know when that meeting is scheduled? I'd like to be there. Yes, sir. All right. I would like to thank Walter because nobody was contacting me after the last time I was here. He called me, uh, one day out of the blue and asked, you know, has anybody contacted me and everything. I was, I was shocked and so impressed by him following through when I guess he didn't really have to. But I really, really appreciate what he did for him at Walter. Walter Walter's a good management with He is for a long time. Yeah. And he does a super job. I, I'm sorry. Yes, sir. But I have a question. Yeah, go right ahead. On one of these, one of these, uh, pictures that we have, little louder in your mic, I can't hear spoken to the mic. It says that the homeowner wants to move our property line back. No, no, we're not gonna do that. No, we're not gonna do that. No. And, and, and that's not necessary to satisfy your thing. Now the, the other question I have is there's a proposal here for about $3,000. Mm-hmm. And then there's a proposal for $11,000. Mm-hmm. Is the $3,000 proposal acceptable? No, at this point, both proposals were turned down. We're talking a whole different meeting. Well, I would prefer that we look at the $3,000. I understand that solution. And that was the next thing I was gonna say. We should be able to do ground, ground cover at a reasonable rate. I mean, what I saw is a very small space. We don't have to redo this whole thing. No, we're making 'em out outta the mall though. Okay. Thank you. Just to clarify, the $3,000, the note that would not meet the design intent for the $3,000 is the way we plant things. Uh, the one for the 11,000 558 85 would be following the design intent of the villages. And it would go out to the curb wave with the ground cover. That would be the option that if we go that route, that would be the option that we recommend. You're saying be consistent with the villages? Yes, sir. With the architectural landscaping design intent there, all, all the entranceways are pretty much the same. Yes, sir. Alright. And, and Mr. Chairman, sir, for further clarification. Um, Mr. Schwartz, I want, I wanna be involved so I can see where that place, where that line is, the property line is where it is and it's not gonna be moved. Right. And if we're gonna go to the property line, that's where we're going. And, and you, the final layout, you may look in and say, well, that's not what I want. But that's what, if we're gonna go this route, that's where it's gonna gonna have to go. We can't move the property line that's, that's set in stone and any, any work that we do. When I say we, the villages. Right. And Mr. Wiley, and, uh, he, he knows what he's doing and he knows what he, and he's, he's very meticulous and in his detail. Yeah. And I appreciate we we're gonna have to do it that way. And, and if that eliminates the cutting, then that should satisfy your ongoing concern. Mm-hmm. Um, but you may not like the line where it is, but the line is where it is and it's not gonna move. Yeah. I, I believe, uh, you know, we're talking landscaping here. We're not talking construction. Correct. You know, and, um, if, if, you know, if you came out and, and we met, I'm pretty sure we're gonna come up with, uh, with a solution that works. You know, this is, this is made to be out way more complicated than it needs to be. No, I just wanted it on record that, that we can't be moving property lines. Yeah. 'cause somebody doesn't like the line that has been chosen. And believe me, I'm not trying to get anything that's not mine care less understand. I just want something that looks aesthetically pleasing to me, my neighbor and all of our neighbors. That's all I'm asking. I agree. All I'm asking. Okay. And all we want to do is make sure that we can resolve this problem without confrontation. Uh, and we can work together civilly. Yep. Okay. I, I, I hear you a hundred percent. Good. I'm glad. Okay. I have nothing further. We're in agreement then you set that meeting up and let me know when that is, please. Yes, sir. Okay. Let let the board know when it's Yes. And we'll, we'll provide a follow up, um, to the board in advance of the January meeting. Okay. Report, Uh, that concluded. Old business. Okay. Information items only information items only have been provided in advance. These are routine items. They don't require a motion. We just run through them. Uh, the DPM monthly report was the first item on financial statements, which I know you have. Uh, district manager approved purchase orders from 50,000 up to 99. 9 9 9. You couldn't have made a even amount a hundred grand, uh, permissible for purchasing policy. Anyone have any questions on these three items? Okay. We're in agreement to move on then. Move on. Okay. Just district manager report post storm review. There is a big one. Yes. Good morning board. Um, there was an update provided to you yesterday. Um, so our haulers have made significant progress. Um, we are through Lady Lake, lake County districts one through 11. Mm-hmm. Um, and, and Middleton, um, which did include multiple sweeps through that area. And we are currently actively working in District 12 through 15. Um, so we have the goal of finishing that operation by December 15th. Um, then we begin the grinding process for the final disposition at our, uh, DMS site. Um, and then disposal of the grounds. And that will complete our debris hauling efforts as a result of Hurricane Milton. So if you have any questions, I'm happy to address them. Yeah, that was ly an effort, believe me. I know how we went through on that and, uh, some people were not happy because the debris didn't disappear as quickly as they thought. But when you consider the size of the villages, I'd say we did a pretty good job. I, I drove some other roads recently, just the other day and they're just debris all over the place. So we're way out of the curve on that. Thank you. And the district property management team worked directly with the haulers and daily phone calls and they continue until this operation is complete. They have done a great job. Brittany, what's the disposition of the grinding? Is there a profit from that? Do we resell it or, so we just reuse it around the, the district? Unfortunately, no. The quality of it, they, they do make the attempt. They reach out to see if there is any ability to, for anyone to utilize it. But the quality of the material is, is not great based on the mixed material. Um, so it is being taken to a landfill site that takes vegetative debris. Okay. Any other questions? Okay, next item on the agenda. Item number seven, the audience comments. Any comments from the audience? Okay. Hearing none. Supervisor comments. I don't have any. I'm sorry. I don't have a, I don't have a report. Oh, you need, I'm so sorry. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. I apologize, mark. Sorry. Thank you. District cultural report. Not that you're not important. Enjoy the goodie bag. That's my only report. No report. Uh, not my morning. Nothing to report. Put me through all that and nothing to report. Well, just the goodie bags there. I know. Thank you for those. Don't tell my wife that goodie bag though, please. I'll never get it. Um, supervisor comments. Mark, anything? Happy holidays. Yeah. Works for me. Double, double. I was second the happy holiday. Walter, you gotta be original and I have no, no, no comments either. Happy holidays. Yeah. Supervisor Noel. Yes. Happy and safe holidays to everybody. Okay. And again, thank you to all our supervisors. Uh, I don't think the residents realize how much time and how much effort goes into being a supervisor. And many think we're bringing down all these dollars. We don't get paid for doing this. We do this because we want to and we're neighbors just like the rest of you. So we do our best job that we can. Not always easy, but we enjoy it. And, uh, we appreciate your cooperation. We especially appreciate you being here. We've had pretty good attendance here lately, so thank you for that. And we wish you a happy holiday. Happy New Year. And we will see you again in January. So will that be on our regular schedule? The third? Uh, it will Friday. Yep. Okay. Set your alarm. I'm off schedule. Nothing else. I'm off schedule anyway for the whole month. I would entertain a motion to adjourn that if this so moved further. Second. Second. Doesn't require a vote. We are adjourned. Thank you.