Folsom City Council Regular Meeting

>> we have any final actions to announce? >> we will adjourn the special meeting inconvenient the regular meeting now of the public city council for tuesday, June 25, 2019. >> curb lasky? And how? Okay. Let's join in the pledge of allegiance now please. >> I pledge of allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> to be have any agenda updates? >> s mehta mayor. There is a supplemental correspondence regarding item 8 a the letter has been presented to previously. It has also been available to the public at the back. >> okay. With that we move to business from the floor. Which I am going to start. And then that is about any items that are not on the agenda so if there's anyone that would like to speak about anything not on the agenda, thought a blue card and get it to the officer at the side of the room. Otherwise, megan murphy and the tourism bureau would like to meet me out front? >> okay. We are honored to recognize haley as the grand marshal this year. >> thank you for being here. So where should have? >> she had to do kid stuff. >> okay. so julie's that were with him and was somewhere. >> how long have you been in folsom? >> 58 years. My grandmother and grandfather started this 50 years ago. When all the girls in the chamber asked me, I immediately burst into tears because it meant so much for family. I wish that grandma and grandpa could be here as we would all be honored to be here today and except this award into the grand marshal. It should be them but we are thankful that we are here in their honor. Thank you so much >> we did post about this, but I've had many friends no longer live in the city full some. But they still buy things from y'all. >> grandmother has written down the sizes and the brands in the my cousins who are not here today, she does the same thing. If we got it 20 years ago, we have handwritten documents here like stacks and stacks of them. Now we just go and look at them, because we don't know anyway. We still get people who will randomly come from different states and they are so loyal. They will come and continue to buy from us. And we are so honored to continue this going. >> so as proclamation of mayor from the city of folsom from the west one of these was the city of folsom probably recognizes both western heritage, we know the benefits of preserving the traditions of the city's history and the annual cornerstone is thoroughly enjoyed and where is this year's event can be held from July 4 to July 6 marks the 59th anniversary jim, and sharon williams in honor of their long service to our community and the rodeo, the highlights include all the traditional rodeos the steel wrestling team roping, bull riding the drill team flying cowboys and the radio clowns. Using live music in the folsom blimps. In honor of the traditional team, they will continue to celebrate the arena fireworks where's the 59th anniversary of the rodeo involves hundreds of volunteers in a tremendous amount of support that is most appreciated. Therefore I hereby proclaim July 4 to July 6, 2019 as western rodeo day in folsom and call upon all citizens to cowboy up to celebrate 59th anniversary of the fault for some rodeo I send sincere bit best wishes for the rodeo season through the entire counsel. >> okay. So, we have three requests to speak tonight. The first one, is an cornell and sarah brown. >> thank you mayor howell and members of the city council. I'm a resident and business owner in full some. And I wear a lot of different hats in the community. >> your cowboy hat is missing tonight. >> I'm going to go get one tomorrow. >> she will have one ready for me. extra-large. Anyway representing full some by. Sarah bradley soured t-shirt model tonight. Is a full some music seen here. There is an album in cd it will be cut and available. But it is also a record release party. Scheduled for thursday, October 17 at the harris center. Tickets go on sale this friday which is why am here. Friday and 80 8 am is when tickets go on sale. $75 is the vip experience includes a great dinner and a meet and greet with the band. As I mentioned the event itself is thursday, October 17. The music is local music. It is reggae, rock and more. We have folk and americana and there are a few bands here short trip is one group that was founded in Mister His martinis music ensemble class in 2012. There now young men in their early 20s I would guess who are producing great music. And of course they can't make a living making music. Especially working in the local coffee shops. Those making the lattes are out there digging at night. We have easy dive which they are putting some website information which is kind of reggae improvisational group. The drummer andrew harel was on my son's soccer team growing up. So the kid looks permit familiar and sure enough he does. They're banging it out as well. The funk harmonica player is here which is kind of a surprise. And arguably the most handsome man in full some is doling who is also a talented musician who will be on stage there. They won't argue because he is a good-looking guy. >> the events are being produced by outside 745. It is created by the leadership of lakeside church. Outside 745 oak avenue parkway is the address of lake church. There producing event outside and within the community. Not necessarily church related but the benefit the community. Last fall we came through full circle and that was a fundraiser with the fulsome five. And we have the upcoming fulsome leadership forum which features dynamic features for very small groups of leadership training. That is it for me. Friday 8 am check us out on facebook and instagram. >> where's the event being held? >> the fulsome event center. >> the next speech or is marilyn jasper. >> good evening. My name is marilyn jasper. I am speaking on the humane society and public coalition. As I mentioned before, first, the well-established link between animal cruelty and human violence is fully embraced by national district attorneys and sheriffs associations as well as the fbi. Second childhood trauma either as a victim or as a witness can stay with the child well into adulthood. witnessing baby calves jerk by their neck slammed down hogtied often drugged by the neck May be traumatic to a child subconscious mind. As elected fulsome city councilmembers, we urge you to attend the rodeo next week and be allowed to go anywhere, pin areas, behind the shoots, the announcer's booth, or sit on the rails for unobstructed views to witness the animal treatment behind the scenes on city property. With your overworking authority and responsibilities for city venues and activities therein, you have the right to monitor and note what happens to horses, bulls and steers. Both before and especially just as though shoots are open. It takes only one person to surreptitiously administer the shock. We urge you to note cows behavior from holding pen calmness to panicked straight out flight when released from the shoot. If anyone is near a calf from pin or shoot area to release, note what is happening to the calf. The announcers are constantly droning it is meant to distract and minimize injuries, demonize animals and praise the so- called bravery of human violence inflicted on innocent animals. Fulsome radio will bring a busy amount of animal cruelty with brutal events that never were tradition. We ask you to see for yourself firsthand and then consider revisiting future rodeo contracts in terms of ethics and what we teach our children. Thank you. >> kim me know. I apologize if I announced her name wrong. >> good evening. My name is tim merrill. I've been a resident in fulsome for 34 years. I have enjoyed the recreational park district along with the trails division. Two or three years ago, there was a dedication to johnny castro. Since that recognition, the trail has been on from the police yard and has gone unrecognized as far as weed overgrowth and dead trees. I wanted to bring that to your attention and wonder what is going to be done about the overgrowth situation. >> we cannot actually engage that topic. If you could let them know. >> if you could speak with our park director she is right there behind you and the orange colored sweater in the front row she can talk you about that trail. Thank you for being here. >> she is right there to write. >>> our next speaker is sarah brakeman. >> good evening city councilmembers. My name is sandra brakeman. We own this nonprofit particle center doing business here. I want to thank roger calor for the concern. For the shop owners and for our safety. Thank you. Let me explain March 11, a man went on a shopping spree by stealing one of our tote bags meant to shop with throughout the district and using our credit card to either buy things that they can hawk off. And they stay in their shops for long periods of time. Thursday and they stay in their shops for long periods of time. Thursday, April 25, my sister called me at my day job here as an associate planner. Because she was very concerned about what came in. Someone was alerted in the 800 block of center street. I was seeing how they threatened this March and who was attempting to enter her building. She called to say this man entered her building from the back and at this point, my sister walked out of the shop to look for this man he saw her and forced her back into the shop blocking her and not allowing her to exit the building. But threatened and continued to yell at her. He then left her building and charged and threatening other merchant who was watching on another street. My sister was able to lock the gate but could hear the merchant screaming that she was being threatened by this man. Little while later she said she was being confronted in front of her truck and they threatened to kill her. At 5 pm we locked the building and at this point this man was waiting for her outside of the building. He charged at me and threatened me, yelling at me. He continued to threaten to kill my sister and I. And was cutting up into pieces in his words. So at this point and other merchant came out and this is not the only time my sister-in- law has been threatened. On sunday, August 19 on sunday, August 19, 2018 I was working in the shop and I noticed a person appeared to be in the side room under the sink. I noticed there were customers in there so I walked in and asked kindly fekete help them. At that point she turned around and I noticed it was a woman and she was outraged, screaming and threatening me. She intently was looking at the paring knife that I'd used to cut up cheese and blocks. I blocked her from grabbing the knife and calmly settled her down and then she left the building. But there was a time that she was yelling and screaming and going on. My concern was the customers. Like I said this woman did eventually leave. My sister and I leave late after dark. There are numerous homeless camps in the garage on the top of the area. As well as the bottom. It is scary. Approximately October there was another incident on October 2018 where a homeless woman pulled down her pants and urinated on the sidewalk on the 800 block in front of customers. Another merchant went out there and told her to stop and she left. May 6 6 pm we are driving out of the garage and walked over to the garbage bin. a man pulled down his pants and started peeing into the garbage pen as there were people all around. The public restroom was two feet away. This is just a sample of what I am concerned about. It is the homeless community. Not just being homeless. That is not a crime. It is the situation that they are violence. The best I can describe it is what we encounter is violent homeless people. They don't want help. We try to give them information and they don't want it. This is what I wanted to share with you. And again thank you for your concern in helping us with the situation. >> are any of these encounters called the police officers? >> we call all the time in the police are wonderful. >> there are several people from the police department here. I would encourage you to have a conversation with the chief about it. And as you have already introduced her, I believe this is your sister son human yes? As the next speaker? >> hello council members. My sister and I are twins in case you're wondering. We are actually triplets. But we both opened a shop together a few years ago. The name of the shop is the vintage crew tone on center street. My sister is still working and I run the shop full-time. We open the shop in 2017. March 9, saturday, the individual who showed up at our front door, took our tote bag and one of our seats. We have four of them. He continued like he was shopping. At the time we had our volunteers working in the shop and they called us to tell us that what he was doing was picking up items and putting them in the tote. Then he walked out. I called the police and they responded. April 25, thursday 11 am I observed an advertisement sign being taken at the end of the hall. This was the problem when he entered to the back door. I never leave the back door open and this time I did. He came through holding the rear end of her building we have a spa and he had the small signs ready to walk out with them. I said excuse me for the sign down and he charged at me. I had to back up into my shop and he stayed at the entrance and would not let me leave. I told him he needed to leave he was blocking my entrance and I was going to call the police. Then he starts yelling and using so much profanity. I told him that the police were on the way. And then he left. I watched him leave the building and then he starts yelling and threatening tonya lopez who owns and operated in the next hallway. 813 center street. She was telling me to get back in the building so I locked the iron gate. but I could still hear him. And he kept saying I'm going to kill you and chop them up and she said leave center street. And he kept yelling and yelling. I yelled at tonya that the police have been called and she said okay. I will try to, has been. She said she thought she could not leave. The way they were parked on sutter she was at her door. She could not get through. She felt nervous just walking a few feet. She finally left in the police had already fled. Later that night after my sister arrived, we were locked in the building and there he was. Waiting for us. He came charging at us. His eyes were scary. Piercing at us and he starts cussing in our direction and saying that he is going to chop us up. We say we called the police but he didn't care. He stayed there and kept looking at us. And threatening us. It was so scary. And all we have between us was my cart and my purse. And here comes ron peterson who owns and is yelling at the man. He literally saved us from the psycho coming out us. They stayed until the police arrived and he rested them. They saw him pulling things out of his pockets he was pulling stuff out all of the place that look like a knife or something. We were scared. So they arrested him. He is in jail and was charged with a felony. He has 180 days. He is going to come out and I'm going to be scared. I know he will come back. He is going to come back. I just wanted you council members to know that we do have a problem here. It is not just us. These are other merchants that just aren't here. We encourage them to come here and tell this story. If the stories are graphic and scary like hours. Roger gaylord reached out to me that day and I don't know why answer my phone. I was so upset he assured me that he was going to take care of this and talk to someone I'm not sure it was now but I told him thank you for calling me. I just wanted you to know that we have a problem and we need support. Thank you. >> next up we have scheduled presentations the first of which are for the city of folston proclaiming July 2019 where councilmember was trosky will be presenting that. >> and the only want to accept this proclamation. Is on the make life better here month in folsom. Parks and recreation promote physical mental health and economic vitality of communities by attracting new businesses promoting community revitalization, increasing tourism, providing jobs and generating revenues. Parks and recreation's creates memorable experiences through engaging programs, dynamic events and new opportunities designed to get people involved in those communities. And parks and recreation's fosters social cohesiveness and communities by celebrating diversity, providing inclusive services, modeling compassion and promoting social equity. Connecting social networks ending including benefits for all access. It supports human development and a learning opportunity that fosters social intellectual physical and emotional growth in people of all ages, and abilities. And it sustains the stuarts of natural resources by protecting habitats and open spaces. Connecting people to nature and promoting the ecological function of the parklands as well as parks and recreation facilitating community problem and issue resolution to the application of the skills in this community stakeholders and community engagement and collaboration with leadership. And the california park and recreation society has released statewide public awareness campaign with parks making life better. It will for the citizens of the many benefits of utilizing parks facilities, programs and services. In the folsom parks and recreation department providing programs such as these, services, events and experiences to all community members that further enrich lives daily and the folsom city council will make all of its revenues and deserves to enjoy the many parks and recreation amenities provided in folsom not only to enrich those but to add to the value to the community. To their homes and neighborhoods as well. Now therefore, be it resolved, that I mike hoss lasky on behalf of carrie and howell mayor of the city of folsom do hereby proclaim July as park make life better month. In doing so I urge all citizens to use and enjoy the parks trails and open space facility with recreation for the 25th day of 2019. >> part of this was that I heard was about promoting diversity and providing inclusive opportunities. So I did want to thank the city for viewing that and supporting folsom staff people so that those with disabilities can have access to the services. Thank you. >> thank you. The next presentation will be by the sacramento mosquito and vector control district. >> craig our board member would like to introduce your speaker? I think you have earned that in the 87 years that you've served on that control board. I'm only kidding but it has been a super long time. >> good evening. I am craig burnett. I am with the sacramento mosquito control district as the city of folsom representative since 1978. I also work with the district when I was in college and jack hip in his wide way wise ways appointed me in 1978. Here I am still. The district does a great job and today you are very fortunate that we will have sam her health the shack assistant manager with a phd who is going to give a presentation on what the mosquito abatement does for sacramento and yolo county. >> thank you for coming out tonight. We always like to reach out to the different counties that serve here. So sacramento we protect both counties here. Sacramento is primarily residential areas with 1.4 million residents and primarily an urban area with some agricultural areas in the south sides. And yolo county has about 300,000 residents and an agricultural and rural part of the county. Having both rural and agricultural components provides some challenges to us. But the highlight will be here in these next two slides. Your some agricultural sources with wetlands and wide fields. These are all large producing areas of mosquito activity. Mosquitoes are grown in standing water. Whether it's wetland or a rice field, that is a big container of standing water if you will. And they can grow thousands if not millions of mosquitoes over the course of the season. Which is why we have a very active treatment campaign surrounding those areas. More notably, the mosquitoes that bring the sources can also be carriers of west nile virus which is the primary disease we are conserved within this district. Your urban areas, the challenge of large sources and small sources that are hard to get to. To here we have an example of sources that can be in the backyard anything from a swimming pool that can put off thousands of mosquitoes all the way down two buckets of water and saucer dishes that you put on the bottom of the potted plants can be a significant producer of mosquitoes. The challenge here in the urban environment is that there are a lot of backyards. We can't get all of those backyards. So we urge them to routinely to walk arounds on their own properties to ensure that they are dumping and draining any standing water in the yards. As far as how we address mosquito issues in the district, the practice what we call integrated mosquito management. Which is a time-honored approach to the study of vector control. It all starts with public information. With very aggressive public information campaign. You May have seen the billboards around the city within the district. We also have banners on the light rail's this year. And we also sponsor the ads during the games on channel 31. We are all components of the outreach campaigns we also go to local public events so if you're ever at an event in the area this a good chance you will see is out there providing information to how they can protect themselves from askew activity. After public information we going to surveillance. surveillance provides us the information that starts with our diverse program. What I mean by that is west naipaul virus is a bird disease. The first victims of west nile virus infestations are the birds in the county. So we will collect the birds and test them for the violent -- virus. It will have an early indication whether not it is bubbling. The virus moves into the mosquito population so we have to monitor those that are flying around. We need to initiate missed control the mosquito population and we also surveilled the presence of immature mosquitoes in the water to see whether not the presence is there and if they need our attention. Within linkage different control measures one being biological control which is primarily the mosquito fish program. We breed thousands of pounds of these fish on an annual basis. And use this to treat areas of standing water that don't drain. These fish primarily eat that larva given they don't have any other resources. Ecological management here which is removing standing water we would much rather remove water if we can as opposed to treating it. And then finally we have chemical control which is either the larva side program or we can do adult mosquito control as well. >> a question on surveillance is there a program you guys have a drone resurvey land? >> that is part ecological management program and the source reduction program. We do fly drones to look and see where standing water is. Especially in areas with large bodies of water. It is worth it for us to not only know where the water is where it is not as well. We don't want to spend time walking around an area where there is no water. >> I will convey a complement to you and your staff from a fulsome resident who found out that there was a drone and you knocked on the door and he thought it was the city. And you ended up doing a fish treatment to their pond if they can't get the water out. The interaction was great according to this residence. >> one of the messages that we like to give out, is that if you are having issues then let us help you. We are here to help. >> you guys found it, took care of it and left. >> we are fast and efficient. To get to the next problem. >> thank you. >> as far as diseases, what I mentioned was west nile virus is primary every year, not only do we have mosquitoes that come up positive we also have human cases as well. Other mosquitoes on the horizon are gang fever, chicken zika those are other issues. We don't have them in our area but we are only two counties away. So it is a matter of time before they do invade our territories. Malaria is also a mosquito disease. It has been eradicated in the united states since the 1950s. But we do have mosquitoes that can transmit malaria. We get notification from the county public health office occasionally from those who come over in fact is we can do surveillance on the property to ensure that they're not coming into contact with mosquitoes that could pass the disease. As far as west nile virus, here are some numbers on this case a statewide. Last year we had 218 cases 15 of which occurred back in secular county and another 11 and yolo county. These are the most severe cases of west nile virus. It can cause paralysis, blindness and other nasty symptoms that go hand-in-hand with having a compromise nervous system. So for every case of this new invasive disease, they can appear as the common cold. But I don't know about you but if I feel like I have a cold I'm not going to go to the doctor. Identify do they probably will not test before west nile virus. >> it seems like this goes with wetness of the weather. >> so there are a few ideas here of why these trends exist. One thought is if you have not that much water, mosquitoes and more pond around that water for the virus cycles more effectively. So they are less likely to have issues with these mosquitoes. Did that answer your question? >> s. >> okay. However if you look the mosquito activity which I don't have a peer last he was very intense mosquito season for west nile virus. In sacramento county we had a very intense west nile season which is not effective for the overall state numbers. Last year, it was mild here which was good. We only had two mosquito samples that tested fight that tested thoroughly. We had quite a bit of thorough activity. Lester was relatively mild year which is something that we do like to see. It is not nice when you have this level of activity everywhere in the county because then we are spread too thin. As far as what 2019 will bring what I can say right now is that we have not had any test positive for was not virus to date. I'm saying this right now but tomorrow will probably get our first positive. We typically see activity in early June and it is late you now. >> it's going to happen tomorrow. I'll give you an update. But because of the wet winter, we have had a lot of standing water and the mosquito populations are higher than we would like to see because there were a lot more reading sources. What that means for west nile virus, I don't know. But what I do know is that there are a lot of mosquitoes right now. As far as what residents can do to best protect themselves, drain standing water. Avoid being outside from dusk to dawn which can be difficult. If you are outside dressed in long sleeves and pants. Which can also be difficult.'s if you can't do that, defend yourself with repellent. We buy our repellent by the pallet. So let us know and we will be more than happy to bring some over to you guys. >> rodeo is not a bad idea. >> absolutely. I will have our pi guy reach out to the officer so we can get a pallet out for that event. Make sure your screen and doors are in working condition and let us know if you have any miscue issues or suspected mosquito issues. A try to get back to folks within 24 hours of contacting us. Please take advantage of us. With that I would like to thank you for your time and leave our contact information. >> thank you very much. >> our next item is a schedule presentation about the upcoming workshop on July 10, 2019. For the aerojet 40 cleanup. >> so first off, good evening meta-mayor and members of the city council. My name is jillian parks. I am here to introduce this weeks schedule presentation. There is an area in the south part of the fulsome plan area in the southwest quadrant it has been identified for remediation. The city has been working together for many years on a plan for cleanup for the area. It has been an epa superfund site known as area 40. The city has also worked with the epa and the department of set toxic substance control since 2014. And the dts see resented the draft remediation plan to the city council June 12, 2018. And then had a public workshop on June 20 the 2018 on that same draft plan. The final remediation plan is now complete. The cleanup effort will begin soon. Epa is holding a new workshop July 10 and to my left ear from aerojet cricket is here to talk about the upcoming workshop in the cleanup schedule. >> thank you. >> welcome chris. >> thank you for having me here. I do appreciate the time to talk. Again I am here with rocketdyne. We are going to introduce a community workshop that we have coming up. The community workshop is scheduled for July 10 from 6 pm to 8 pm at the fulsome community center. Just next door. We are going to talk about the cleanup activities that are associated with a remedy for area 40. As the rain mentioned, area 40 is located within the fulsome planned area. On the western edge just along bray city road. It was used by aerojet in the past for operations associated with rocket manufacturing and testing. At the meeting we will have a 20 minute presentation on the cleanup plan itself will have an open house to provide details on the plan. The community is welcome to come we have sent out flyers to 5000 residents in the June, July letter that went to all residents and their notifications in sacramento be in the fulsome telegraph. There are notices in their websites for area 40 of the upcoming unit as well. As a summary the cleanup components is a map that we have here with a green area as the future park area and community park west is what it is slated for. They are ensuring that is used as a park. We have wetlands in it and it is mandated by the army corps of engineers and a little bit of a remedy in that area that includes excavation as the perch to discourage animals in the area. There is a groundwater remedy and some additional land-use covenants in that region. We also have some residential areas on the north and south in commercial areas which are shown here by the paint and residential areas in the blue. And by descent land-use covenants here as well. All of this information will be described in that workshop. We have a schedule we anticipate being out here with all the excavation work being done. There will be an extensive monitoring program that will include groundwater monitoring and ambient air monitoring to make sure we get the objective here with agreements to the city to make that a park. About two months to get the field activities completed. We are making sure that we remediate the area successfully. We can do additional remedies to make sure we get to those objectives. There will be some reporting at the end and the epa, and the state of california substance control and regional water to quality control will certify the property has been cleaned up in accordance with their plans and their cleanup levels. Again, I want to come up and invite everyone in the city councils with no we have a workshop coming up just next door. July 10 6 pm to 8 pm. At the fulsome community center . >> does anyone have any questions? >> presumably there's another superfund site with cleanup can you have any examples here? >> we will. I plan on having a handout that describes the locations that have been superfund sites converted to park areas under beneficial uses with a wide variety of superfund sites. >> I just want to say thank you for the accessibility of the information. I've had some in-depth meetings with the staff here and it's pretty consistent. You are able to express what is coming on and I think it is great for the public. Thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> I have some questions. i attended a meeting two or three weeks ago. They made a presentation and I've been watching area 44 nine years. I came on this counsel 20 years ago. So I'm very concerned here. I saw the massive line indicated that area and I traveled quite a bit down the city and saw all of those pipes up and I was asking what that was at the park site? Because I am very concerned about park sites now initially when this came out there was no alternate site. That was the site and the conversation that came back is when we raise the question. Make it a parking lot. And I said that to aerojet. If you don't build I had to change my own view. I can consider this why don't we take this alternate site. That you do the renovation and cleanup on that clearing site. You know, I don't think we are going to be eating it within this timeframe. But I was amazed that they had so much dirt that was going to be taken out of this area. In order to do what you have to do. At that time there was no indication of where you were going to put that dirt. Whether you are going to make a dump on eric it property to do it or take it somewhere else I guess it's not that easy to take contaminated samples someplace. My question, this is probably as important here to fulsome. Any way that he can go and I recommend they come and listen and be concerned not to that I am questioning the work that they say they are doing I'm hoping you will stay here as well. But that is a big problem out there in the south. And I am not very negative normally. I am very concerned about this one. And I'm going to monitor it as close as I can and I definitely will be at that meeting for that conversation. So that meeting was very eye- opening to me. In that I thought I knew what was going on. It came away scarier as I came right back and talked to the city manager on the subject expressing this concern. So I think your committee in your group which I'm sure very qualified, make no mistake that's a very big concern to the city. That we get this right as soon as you can. I want them to go into the record that this is not something to overlook again I want to be sure that if you have an alternate site that somehow that alternate site is there when we needed. >> a bit of clarification on that, chris is here to talk about area 40 which is property that is owned by aerojet right now that must be cleaned up regardless of what happens. It is not aerojet's responsibility necessarily to do an alternate site. That's a bigger question for the city and all of the landowners planning. But having said that can you explain where this is going to be removed to? >> thank you counts member sheldon. A procedure comments and I understand your concerns. You recall that the area of the park is owned by general rockets today and it will remain at ownership until the epa in the dps and the regional water board say it is safe for her to not be owned by aerojet. Never makes it to that states that it will never leave their hands. Rest assured, it will not be allowed to become a park until has been cleaned up. That being said, there are multiple areas where the soil can be taken. It will not be stored on their property. They are class to landfill disposal facility. They are epa approved areas where the soil will have to go. >> any other questions? >> thank you. We will see you on July 10 next door. With that, we commit to the consent calendar. Is there anyone that would like to pull anything from consent? >> I would move adoption of the consent calendar. >> we have a motion and a second. >> the clerk will please call the roll? >> counselor sheldon? >> with that, we are going to move to new business. And that is consideration to mend the 2019 2020 city budget. We have one traffic enforcement officer here. Is there a staff person that is going to resent this oryza council going to talk about this? >> we don't really have a formal staff report or presentation for this item. Because we have already heard the budget in its entirety and counsel for gaylord asked that this be brought back so I ask you to lead off our conversations. >> absolutely. So we had in-depth conversations obviously and approve the budget with the request to put this on the agenda. I am absolutely certain that this is something that we need. I know there's a hyperfocus now in the community with regards to traffic safety. In general, we gave a few things. I think the idea here most of my colleagues if not all of them do not want to touch the reserved funds situation I'm fine with that. I respect that. But the option for the annual payment can be reviewed every 12 months. It is nothing that we have to walk into but it does create the revenue as a term that would change into more funding and savings if you will which does become realized with annual savings every year. Even when it grows, that savings increases the annual income that we received. So what I want to do is utilize that option in tandem with passing the ambulance fee increase which recognizes additional funding if you will which we have not realized yet but we have agreed to adopt. So want to appoint both those adding these two positions. One being a police officer for traffic enforcement and the other for battalion chief. This is not a goal or an exercise to veil around here. I think we need it and we need to build on it. Having the fee increase is both of you outside the box ways to fund strategic positions is something that we fund fully need. So adding the two positions is 500,000 or give or take some here. That is the estimated cost here. 200 for the battalion chief. That leaves us with the annual payment savings with the extras that hundred 50,000. And stop me if I'm incorrect in any these numbers. The other ambulance fee increase we estimate to be something around 326,000. So the delta between the two is I think about 18,000 or something. Just trying to do a little bit a quick math here. So yes. We are looking about $16,000 between the two. So my issue is on the staff report it explains the general fund that we subsidize annual services right now from the general fund. To me, everyone does that. It has dual purpose within that capacity. So the paramedics are also firefighters. So we are going to subsidize that no matter what. I feel like it is ripe for the speaking to go back to where it is being generated from. Not from the general fund to be somewhere else. I want to go back to an aspect. I'm asking for us to prove these two positions based upon these two funding mechanisms. I'm going to ask for us to pass that. So I'm happy to hear anyone else now comments questions concerns or anything else? >> without emotion? >> yes. >> and we ask some questions? >> yes. >> jim, I have a question for you I do understand that all goes into the general fund. But, is there a practice by which let's say the department that generates the revenue also benefits from the revenue. For example if we switch to a lump-sum favor, at which I'm in favor of, the savings that generates should go toward paying down the liability. We only make a small dent here. So is there some kind of philosophy about that with ambulance fees that are generated that go back toward the fire department? >> yes. It's actually more than just a practice. If you have a user fee which the ambulance fee is, that money has to go to the use for which it was generated. In this particular case what actually happens because you've already adopted the budget if you then appropriate this as revenue it frees up an equivalent amount in general funds by doing that. >> okay. With the same manager matt i mind if I ask some other questions? Okay. >> hello chief. So just make sure we are all on the same page as far as staffing is concerned is my understanding that full staffing is 78 officers correct? That includes you? Okay. Where are we today? >> we have 76 swan today. >> severe two vacancies. >> we have two vacancies that are not about to be filled my understanding is that we are at full staffing. We are still waiting for to be able to get out of the academy? >> we have 76 swan today and we have one person in backgrounds and one person in a position that is vacant that we are testing for currently. >> okay. So of the 76 back in February, the council had the privilege of swearing in for new offices. I believe two of those were lateral and another agency. What is that status? Are they full-fledged on their own? >> yes. >> what about the five who recently graduated from the academy? >> those five are still in training. We do anticipate three of them to be off training in the next couple of weeks. And two others to be off training probably in August. >> so when you say in training they are in a car or whatever with another officer? Okay. >> that is correct. We do not count them as police officers yet. They're not in a solo status. They have to be with another officer. >> in the budget book when you talk about trying to reduce engineering of the roads which you can't do anything about you talk about education as well. Is there any plan where you correlated with them to look at the educational awareness here? >> yes. And we do work with engineering as well. We have education and enforcement. Motorcycle officers going out with enforcement efforts to write tickets here. They have education getting the message out with the message boards. We have several electronic message boards moving those around town with messages to address some of these concerns. Slow down, buckle up whatever we are having problems with and can identify here to try to get messages out. Using our communications director to help get that message out as well as the police department and public police officers. We were getting the messages out to school districts to help disseminate information to the schools once they are back in session. Engineering we work with the public works department and we work hand-in-hand with them. Because we May find that one intercession we are having more collisions that. With some of the more new technology that is going in some of these intersections, we are able to determine if red light running is a problem in the public works department can help us out with that and say this is a problem at this intersection. And we can then focus our efforts to combat the problem at that intersection. >> to your predecessor to for now I heard her say many times that we could get rid of about 97% of the property in this town if people would lock their doors take the person her wallet and the cell phone and ipad and laptops out of their vehicles. You think that is a fair assessment? Give or take? >> maybe. But we have a lot of crime that does occur in our businesses with people wondering into other businesses. But it is a good assessment that a lot of crime does occur with those that leave cars unlocked and that we feel comfortable in our community which is a great thing but there are people that do take advantage of that. >> and we are trying to continually to push out messages as part of an education component of the department to harden these targets. >> as a police department we have messages right now that are being prepared to go out that will up our game when it comes to that. There are messages about locking your cars and wearing your seatbelt. don't leave your dog in the car during summer months. Don't forget your baby when you get out of the car. All of these types of things are messages that we are really going to push into the community and the pio's which are very interested in getting that out as well as video clips and pictures of those getting pulled over. Things like that. >> so when you have people assigned to patrol and you have people assigned primarily to traffic if I'm on patrol, and I'm not responding to a call and I see someone with a traffic violation, I am going to pull them over. >> hopefully so. >> will we know sarah would. >> so, if you have people assigned to patrol, but maybe we don't have people that are taken responsibly for themselves to reduce property crimes. Those people could also be out making traffic stops and that kind of thing. >> for sure. Patrol officers like officer patrol here are generalists. They're going to respond to whatever calls are as well as handle traffic. Our traffic officers we have a limited number of them. But they do specialize in traffic incidences. When they are on duty they respond to all of the traffic collisions and they focus their efforts on traffic enforcement. As well as traffic collisions in an effort to reduce those collisions. And to reduce complaints from our neighbors that are having problems in their neighborhoods. Be it people running stop signs or whatever. They are trying to make the community safer through their own efforts. They take the data that we get on collisions and they say that the shows we need to be here at this time. To be able to reduce collisions. They are able to do that. Our patrol officers have the cities with five geographical areas in fulsome, beach but each patrol officers given a different area and they are responsible for that area. They have to handle the calls. As I said a few weeks ago, about 61,000 calls a year that the officers to respond to. They are pulled off of calls were as traffic officers are more flexible with their time and they can spend time sitting at an intersection watching for violators. >> I did just want to ask your point here, there are not neat little buckets here crime is crime and officers her officers in terms of something happening, any officer can respond. >> I guess is what I'm try to figure out, what gives you the most flexibility? If at some point we were to give you more personnel is it helpful or hurtful to say that we want to give you another traffic officer. I mean you are the expert. And you probably have new people around moving them depending on what is happening? >> yes. we can just go off of the speaker today with a blue card. Someone had an issue on sutter street. If I am restricted to put traffic officers, certain number of them and maintain that for whatever reason through issues of people becoming injured here I have to maintain seven traffic officers and yet we are having problems in patrol because their injuries because of those retiring. Then I don't have enough people to put out on the streets to handle some of the other problems that we are having. Or elsewhere in the community. I would rather have officers because my crime suppression team right now when I do have officers and training, I don't have officers in my crime suppression team because I spread them out to patrol. Normally I would have that crime suppression team down on sutter street taking care of problems like we heard tonight. And that is where they will be in a few weeks once those other officers come out of training. >>'s you need the flexibility to move people around. >> when you hire an officer you determine what their position is and what the role is. I am not suggesting that we label and title them forever. >> as long as what goes through here. >> just one second. Actually, the agenda item is at one battalion chief and one traffic enforcement officer. >> I think the way it is worded currently our interpretation a staff would be that is needed to maintain that +1 in traffic. >> so my point is that was what was in the email. >> what I said was an officer focus on email -- >> let me just ask my final question and I will yield the floor, we have 76 we will have five more that are in training right now and will be out on their own in the next few months. Hopefully we get the 77 and 78 officers hired. So would be fair to say that we will see an increased police presence the second half the air compared to the first half of the year? >> and would that be to officers? Once officer 77 gets through the background check and you find 78? Or is that an increase of two in the next few months ideally? >> I am very hopeful. If everything goes right. All stars align at least, last week that is the way it was going to be. But then one of our officers got hurt. So the staffing is at this level 78 and of those 76 that I have one of them has been working in dispatch for the past several months and is hopeful to come back. So yes, you will see them they will be around but not necessarily in cars. But we do have those personnel here. And I am hopeful that we get those 78. >> when that happens do we turn services off the reserve officers? >> no. Our reserve officers I'm looking at three right now. One of them we do occasionally use. The other two, we use to reserve officers here they can ride by themselves. And they come in a few times a month. That another one has to ride with an officer. So they are looking what post allows them to do. The ones that can come in and ride by themselves do a lot of transport going to the jail. >> we've added a cadet program as well that helps relieve our officers to denigrate with what the canon cats are doing. It's really some of the more mundane work so that other officers can be out there fighting crime as best as possible. >> and then there's collision investigations. The noninjury collisions we have a cadet to response there when they are working to handle that. To free up some of the other officers to remain available for enforcement. >> we talked about areas where we had collisions what exactly does that accomplish? Does having a police officer on a motorcycle and any vehicle sitting out near an intersection prevent accidents from happening? >> when we have collisions occurring at intersections or in areas reinforce violations that we receive. >> what you are enforcing it after the accident happens. >> we prevent the next one from occurring. >> if you are looking at the last 12 months, there is no clear pattern to the accident that we have seen. So takes a combination of tactics where there is one officer who is prevented them from coming. Jump in any time if you're going to correct me. >> a fatal collision here. >> we really have to hit it from all three of these education enforcement and engineering. We are coming through us at a lot of different areas. >> let me clarify a few things I did have traffic enforcement officer in the email. It was my impression that an officer can be assigned to different things. My goal is to give you resources to focus on traffic enforcement and safety. Red light running which is an increasing issue in the city and I don't think anyone on this counsel can deny that. I don't think any resident in folsom will deny that either. They want answers. They want us to tackle this. So I would be find fine amending the motion and put those officers at your disposal so you can create the sources. To allocate at the time necessary additional resources for traffic enforcement. That is my goal here. It is not to hire someone specific to that role. That is not what I interpreted it as. If that is the case that we can amend it. The goal is to get another officer as a resource for you to use. >> I forgot my question here. You see people say this all the time and I thought this at one point also people said if you just put an officer at iron point in east bidwell than you can pay for his or her salary with the tickets that here she writes. And that is a myth. >> yes. >> can you elaborate on that link be on the same page. >> so when people do receive their fines from the court most of that money stays with sacrament county. The breakdown goes to the county of sacramento. Some of the fees go toward building a new court. But the city does not receive a lot of the money. We May receive I believe somewhere near $97,000 last year. >> it's almost a wash. >> right. The majority of the fine stays with the city of sacramento. >> is not scientifically proven that the mitigation doesn't come from the actual enforcement of the person to get the ticket but the visualization of the enforcement from passerby's? >> there is a lot of data that shows that that the issuance of citations of officers pulling someone over and the time spent with the officers pulling people over and issuing citations does actually reduce collisions. >> thank you. >> just one other think is there's been a lot of chatter about this, on terrace ticket question, on social media lately here. with regards to the red light tickets, I know how it works and we discussed it many different times in the 21 years I've been sitting here. But can you please clarify the red light tickets are cameras there installed by outside facilities not a nickel would stay with us? >> I don't know where the money goes. But, spent many years ago we had one. For about three months and then it went away. >> usually the public works can director can weigh in here, but usually the vendor installs equipment at their own cost and then the fines that the red light running goes back toward the vendor. >> so the maintenance cost and operations and upkeep, all the ministry of work to utilize the system does go back to that vendor. And fortunately, because we don't have enough red light runners and the volume of traffic that you seen other jurisdictions in our city that would actually justify them to even approach us to want to put one in. So it would be a loss for them to even come here. >> historically they can come in and take a look and say you don't have the threshold that we are looking for here. >> from my research I found with regards to the violations on the intersections actually produce a better result in red light cameras. So when you actually put the 490 or whatever violation fee on the intersection, it actually reduces less and you don't get the political backlash from the red light cameras as if we could even have them here. >> and I should clarify that of the $97,000 that I spoke about that we were receiving last year, some of that money is actually from other violations is not all vehicle violations. And some of that money even comes to us from the california highway patrol because when they write citations along highway 50 within city limits we get some of that money. So there are a few thousand tickets that I talked about us writing and that is not all of that $97,000 or whatever some of that comes from elsewhere. I don't even know how many tickets the highway patrol wrote probably just one or two but I don't know. >> I have a few follow-up questions here. So, the anecdotal evidence if you had effort extra traffic officers today where would you post them? That is problematic for speeding and red light stop right now. Because I have heard of instances of people at virtually every controlled intersection at our city where people are running lights all the time. And I just don't see that relative to my personal observation. I have seen it but relative to how many people use the intersections. First that question and then the follow-up question whether not you had one additional officer during that particular job and not to suggest that it wouldn't help, but is it a bit of a game of whack a mole where you satisfy the desire to control particular location but we have 2000 more in control. >> we have a lot of complaints. We called and focused enforcements. The officers move around going from one location to another. We have a crime element and analyst. She tells us that we have collisions that are occurring most frequently on wednesdays between noon and 2 pm at this intersection. Also, on wednesdays between 9 am and 11 am. The traffic officers are attempting to get to those intersections during those times. We also go to schools and make sure that the schools are safe as well. Because whether or not there collisions occurring at the schools we want to make them safe. We go to the schools parking lots to keep them moving and help them. So, it's not just the enforcement efforts are efforts and collision reduction, it is also being out there and helping out in other ways. Where those collisions are occurring if I had another person today, I cannot tell you for sure. Because today there could have been for collisions at one intersection. And now there is a hotspot. So now we get maps every week or rather every two weeks that say here is the hotspot for the past two weeks. Something May have changed. And in the past two weeks he May have had this intersection of blue ravine and east louisville street that May have all the sudden lit up. And that is now the hotspot. We are going to go to that area and in force in that area and work there. Efforts that we put in to folsom boulevard May have worked. And now it's going to move elsewhere and continue to go back there in a month. >> it's a righteous game of whack a mole. >> it certainly is. Just 30 something square miles. >> so maybe topic for an entirely different day here. But the suggestion of the deterrent fines as we do actually have cameras and a bunch of intersections. We probably would not actually use them for traffic enforcement the way they are set up. But other types of deterrence would not be opposed. >> we have additional a signage here in terms of the signboard that are already playing a different way. That the red light violations here earlier is that what you are talking about? >> we can certainly add those. >> okay. We can consider that. We talked about looking at different methods to try what other communities have found to be effective. Dave and I just talked about that today. We talked about it a few weeks ago looking for different things that could help us out. >> back to your staffing it sounds like sometime in August we May be a full staff. But that is subject to injuries and all kinds of other unforeseeable situations. How does that compare to last year. Like right now, we are at 75 some of those are training so they are looking a bit longer whether it's at a training role. So how does that compare to the rest of the staff during 2018? >> I think we were down in the 60s. >> at least on paper we should be better staffed right now than we were last year? And even better staffed later this year than we were currently? >> at least in theory assuming we don't have a rash of injuries. >> that's correct. The accounts member I would like to add that today we are looking at traffic enforcement officers and battalion chiefs in the traffic unit and t jump in any time if I'm wrong here. But the two officers that are coming off of training are moving into patrol which moves into traffic which increases the total unit to eight which is too sergeants and six officers. Which is actually one off the staffing that we've had in that particular division which we are talking about traffic today. That was just the configuration that you guys change recently wasn't it? >> yes. we had one sergeant for officers. >> if you look at the last five years, we took a real beating and 08 and 09 about hundred 50 boys overall through the department. But we look at the last five years and we started coming out of this problem. But we mean harder on the rest of these folks. 14 of them were in the departments other than safety. 17 were prior employees. So our third conversation here on facebook where we are not keeping up with this, it was shortchanged with the officers. In both areas. That's not true. It's not the fact if you go back and look it's not true. And I know how you feel. Because we spoke the other day. I just want to clarify that you need to be careful when you say were not getting up. I'm going to see the numbers that you are talking about tonight. That one is very good. >> we are down from where we were then. There is no doubt that we are down from where we were prior to the 2008 area. We had a lot more officers. You and I talked about that. >> and I sat in the back room and watch