Noticed Meeting CM Carlucci and CM Peluso on Renaming Projects

Noticed Meeting CM Carlucci and CM Peluso on Renaming Projects — Oct 8, 2026

>> It was good that when politicians post on that, everybody pushback converges politicians, the occasion come a little notice meeting to order and we'll go around introduce who is here and start to the left and it is up by the way. It is the October, the 8th in us about the 4 after 3. >> And that's what's great this. Yeah, it's just good afternoon. Money holder at large. That one. Good afternoon, Judy Palooza District 7 and good afternoon. This is Matt Carlucci at large crew for. >> And I simply called the meeting because there's a park that I was approached by Marshall Oliver and one of my favorite people in Life. And Pam Powell Jr to name after their beloved are planned. Pam's beloved mother of Tampa home. The Biden is painful. She has put in decades and decades. So much hard work for the city, for the children in the city and I love her to death. I was so honored to be a part of this. And she worked for the John Delaney administration for a dollar a year. I think. And they asked if I would consider introducing legislation naming a park after currents, of course, is good in the. And so I said to rid our and Marcia Pam's friend, both the interim and to find water park or for their of Joseph and in just bring it to me in the world. But together a nice ordinance with some nice where as is bring it before the Council of Love. And those of his COVID to this is if you like, yes, absolutely south. If you have any questions and then I will address the fact that she's still living and I will address this hole business of your waiving the code and all that because I think I can address that better than anybody on the city Council. >> Jen, thank you. Thank you. Chair the new Councilman Carlucci for bringing this to our attention. I've known Temple Temple Junior Marshall over for quite some time. And you're right. The dollar a year salary. He's well known in the city. She has a huge heart for the youth in the city for children, fought very hard for the children's district and then funny and dedicated funding source for the Children's Commission. I only wish that it did past again, failed by 2 percentage points. You know that that just kind of a shame that it didn't. But but that's the kind of Archie has she want to make sure there was a of a long-term plan to help make sure that young people in this city, children this city or were given a chance. And so I I certainly never support of this talk introduce you as soon as you file it. But in the file it in our next council meeting and my husband hole rushes. >> Thank you. Yes, some early that sort. I first moved to Jacksonville and I got involved with the junior League of Jacksonville and Pam Paul's senior was one of our guest speakers event from that moment on. And that was the last 15 years ago out of it by the work. That effort, as she said in the city of state of close with her pants wants to use will be honored to have Co introduce this legislation. Thank you so much for the opportunity and for for that. And then the question I was going ask that you addressed it as the fact that she's still living because they know and one of our more recent think it's committee meetings that came up as an issue for another project that was worked on not necessarily issue but a question. So glad that you're on top of that. And yes, thank you. You're welcome. >> So there's a of a of section of the code that has to be way because she's still living. No. The reason that this this I have the some research being done on this by Colleen Campsie, our senior research analyst and I have some research time, which I think you already know the answer to. But on why the alleged that the code requires that you only name parks buildings and so forth after people who are deceased. And the reason that is is because are pretty consolidated. Government has so many. We have 3 bodies back that we have a city council. We have a city commission and then the county commission, the all 3 of those bodies we're back to the thing is 14 council members and city commissioners that a lot of all those so appointed and or other elected officials, 14 were indicted is awful and some of some of them had parks and buildings and so forth named after them. And one of the park's was Friendship Park and that was named after Dallas on this. You know, that was Thomas was a city commissioner and one of the things he was one of the county was indicted for and a new kitchen installed in his house. I have the grand jury of papers. Was it? No, he was. He was making his wife happy. I think. >> It is French provincial of cabinets. So the Birch, a new tile to plumbing City commissioners back then the commissioners were over certain departments of the city. So that part is that he was over one of his agricultural department. He of the bills sent to the agricultural department and so they pay for. And that is as these types of things surfaced, you know, then his name in this park named after him didn't mix well. >> Have a check. But I believe that was my father who actually introduce the legislation that said you could not name anything after somebody until they were to cease because it was such a problem back then. Well, we still have problems today, but nothing nothing. It pales in comparison to the days pretty consolidation. So if anybody since the 2 that issue, I am I was just old enough back then to remember those days, I have still lots of records about those days that my father had kept. And I could go on and on. I will tell you the more about it. But but long story short, if anybody could stand up and say we shouldn't you weighed the code. I could stand up on the soapbox and do that. But I won't. I believe there comes a time Yu Pen Rosa lapel, people that are still living. I want people up and call and to be able to enjoy seeing their name only park and enjoy that. I think they've earned it and I make no apologies about it. I mentioned in a meeting that I had maybe is the committee, but I I wanted it to be known because my counsel tenure goes back to the 1987 that I was. I knew I was going to be asked to introduce legislation just last year. 2 names, certain things after people because I've been asked, he's always kind of trying to to let people know. >> For 4, I will say forewarned that whatever a nicer way of saying that is to let people know. And so they wouldn't be surprised because I knew about the the waiving of that code. And so at our last council meeting it was brought up to it was perhaps we were doing this too much. I don't think we have done it too much. When you look at the Hispanic time and I think of I think this may be the second or maybe 3rd person over the many years of Warren Jones. You know who else that we do on the court and have school president? Yeah. Yeah. And Andy. Okay. Yes. Men as Poppy. Been a great help to me. By the way. Thank you. >> Yes. So you're looking to rename a park? Not a street, right? Yes. So that yeah. If you rename a street, yes, the person has to be to season. I'm looking at the code here and the one 22.1, 0, 5, in the looking at the 7 criteria for renaming the actor, public facilities, public buildings, public parties, and I don't see anything that would require the person to be disease unless there's some other provision. >> That meant that there. There is a provision. >> There's another provision outside of one 20 to 105, K. >> And and in general, if I made sure, I mean, in general, I know that it has become a sensitive subject for some of our colleagues. But we just recently renamed the Lost Cove Regional Park after D*** Roberts who is still living to this day. He was a former city council member and former state representative and lives in Mandarin right now. I'm not sure how his health is. I think it was part of it, but I think there's no question anyone who knows anything about the political environment in Duval County in Jacksonville and Northeast Florida in general knows Pam Paul and knows the impact she's had on on on children and the foundation work and great nonprofits in the community Foundation. I mean, she's been she's been everywhere. You would hope to see Vogue. She's she's is high caliber as Preston Haskell is. So so I'm eager to see who really is going to come out and say anything about this. Also, I believe she was just honored by the Florida House. I think it was 3 or 4 months ago. And so I believe the mayor was there. Danielle Davis was their salute. I think Rick Scott helped facilitate it as well. I mean, a ton of folks on both sides of the aisle know who this woman is and what she's done. So, you know, very I think is not precedent there. I think we only heard one or 2 councilmembers talk about it and also Liberty Park, which is in my district. You know, I don't I don't believe it's its name is tied to anything more than it being on Liberty Street and doesn't you know, it's it's it's something I think when when properly explain to anyone in the community, is it going to feel good about it? The only thing that I would encourage you to do, sir, is please reach out to Springfield, Spohr, Springfield, preservation and revitalization. They just get really sensitive when things are made without their say. So First Street was kind of renamed for 1 o'clock. And the name does not sit well with some of the members of the community. So just please reach out to them. It's one thing I would ask that we will, you know, the city. Thank you for reminding me of that. We've it will certainly do that. >> And and I will reach out to some of the community leaders and former mayors who have worked with Penn Poll and just let them I know that we're doing this. So in the event that they may want to the be aware, just in case there was any objections they I want to they they may want to provide there their support and anybody wants to pose that them. And that's their right to do so. And but and I just think I'm just I'm just I'm not in the fence. Laws like that. I'm in. I like to err on the side of kindness and generosity when he's been earned. That's that's who I am. That's who I will always be. And it's section one. 22.1 of the 2 cherry is that section? I think I think that's the one. Anyway. That's what I want to let you know. And I I am greatly honored. One other thing I want to share with the walkout, both my new at-large member here and and why Councilmember Palou SOS in your district is the peace Memorial Park that we did not name after anybody, but the weavers Wayne and Delores Weaver help fund some wonderful improvements. And we may wind up having just that may be finished in November and it is going to be a show case. It's going to be beautiful and great weather to a friend or and thank God for the weavers. I'm very excited for you. If you go by, you'll see so much of that's been done. But you really can't tell how be that's going to be because I haven't played in the grass in the end. The plantings yet, but it's going to be fabulous. And with the infrastructure work looks great in the labyrinth is going to be. Yeah, yeah. I know. Stay away from negative. Probably get lost in that. But what about us? Let's get this. By the way, the whole, OK? Anybody got any questions or anything. Okay, John, you got anything. You want to sell a legit. Have a couple minutes. You want Speaker, you know anything other than that. The okay to anybody else will speak? Well, I guess we're adjourned. >> And give me some coffee think. I mean, I think I am. I