Village Community Development District No. 13 (2025-07-10)

I'd like to call the meeting to order for the CDD 13, um, meeting for July the 10th. And I'll say that all supervisors are here with the exception of Supervisor je. And if we could, I'll stand for the pledge allegiance and then our observation for a moment. Silence Of the United States of America to Republic, which is found one nation under God in with liberty and justice for all I had like to welcome, uh, the board would like to welcome all of our meeting attendees, um, that are here today. Is there anyone that would like to come forward and make a comment? If you do, please come to the podium, state your name, address, and then your comment. Okay. Seeing none, we'll close the audience comments. And now we'll go onto law enforcement updates. Good afternoon, captain Kinder from the Wellwood Police Department. Uh, we have two upcoming events. Uh, the first one is going to be a back to school packed cruiser. That is tomorrow, this Friday. Uh, our units are gonna be up at Walmart and Villages on Wedgewood. And what we do, this is I believe, our second annual event that we're doing. Uh, we used to do, uh, school supplies for the children. We realized that a lot of them actually need hygiene, uh, products. So what we do is we collect those. We distributed 'em out. Last year we gave up about 600 bags to students at the different schools. Uh, we found that, uh, those are a lot more useful and they cost quite a bit. So a lot of families can't afford the hygiene products. So that's gonna be tomorrow. Uh, people are welcome to go to Walmart and they can either fill up cart, bring in the bag, drop it off hours are gonna be between 11:00 AM and 1:00 PM or people can drop it off directly at the Wellwood Police Department. We'll make sure that that gets to the, the students. The second event that we've got is gonna be August 14th, uh, from 10:00 AM to 12:00 PM It's, uh, they're calling it the fall into finance. We're hosting that and we have several other investments and banks that are gonna be speaking about how people can secure their investments, uh, how they can grow them. But what our contribution is, is we're gonna be explaining to people how to avoid financial fraud. A lot of the frauds that are coming out, how to stay away from those scams. So we'll be, uh, we'll be helping those, uh, that information get out to the people. Uh, it's by RSVP only. Uh, it's gonna be limited spots. Uh, I'll give the flyers, uh, to the council and that way you guys can put it on there. But just please reach out to the police department if anybody's interested, and then we'll get 'em a spot. Other than that, I don't have any other, uh, updates or anything, uh, to present unless you have any questions. Anyone have any questions? Thank you very much. Thank you. So now we'll move on to move to new business. We have, uh, the minutes from last month, um, June 12th meeting. Could we have a motion or do we have any discussion about the minutes? I'll make a motion to accept the minutes. Second. Okay. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Um, now we have the board consideration for adoption resolution 2025 dash 11, establishing participation in the multimodal discussion path, multimodal path discussion group. Sorry. So I feel pretty strongly about this. I've had basically two friends that I had several weeks that I had to visit in the hospital due to golf cart accidents. Um, the multimodal group, their mission is completely different than Pwac. Pwac is not assigned to go out and look for recommendations on what they can do to approve safety, but that's what the multimodal group is doing. And also they interact with the city and the, uh, county and also, uh, law enforcement to make recommendations to them. So, uh, that's kind of outside the bounds of what PAC does, unless somebody suggests something to 'em. Uh, I was at the last meeting. It was very well attended by the public, and, um, the, uh, district staff was also there along with, uh, law enforcement. Uh, it was, it was a very good meeting. I think there's a number of things that they need to address and being on the board, uh, I would like to move those forward. Um, so that's, that's why I brought this back up. I mean, it's no cost to us. Uh, you have a volunteer that's willing to do it, so I don't, I don't see why we don't, um, participate in this board. I believe Carrie, most of the other districts have a board member. Is that correct? I know there's one that's not because they don't have any multimodal paths, but, Um, I believe that District three and 11 are the two that do not have a representation There. Okay. So the majority of 'em have, uh, district representatives. I'm not sure why there other ones don't, but, um, I would like the board to approve, uh, to allow me to sit in on these, uh, as a board member. I guess it's not a board, it's a, uh, what do they call it? It it is, um, it is not a board, but it is, um, a, a group that does fall under sunshine and public record laws. Okay. That's, that's All. So, one question the second, um, if at some point, uh, supervisor Kerrigan decides he doesn't want to participate and we don't have someone else that's willing to step up, can we have another resolution to come off of it? Yes, ma'am. Okay. And this in no way would change, um, any of our current paths. I know I've spoken to Mr. Mellinger about concerns in District 15 that he's already working on with EMAC and 15, so we can still continue those paths. Yes, ma'am. We don't have to take everything through this discussion group. You don't have to take anything through the discussion group. This is simply, as Supervisor Kerrigan said, a way for supervisors to come together and brainstorm, share ideas, information, and hopefully come up with some type of consensus, um, to ensure that the past remain, um, consistent across the board. But the board or the group does not have the ability to actually take action. It doesn't have the ability to expend funds or do anything with your pasts unless it comes back before this board and you make that decision. Yeah, it's, it's mostly just to evaluate different things that can be done. And, and there's a, there's a number of things that, um, we, we really need to do to increase the safety on a multimodal pass. And there's other communities that have done a number of things that can be done. And I, I think just having the group and, and getting the information together, uh, and, and then researching it and then providing that the PA, you know, with some good basis on what needs to be done, um, I think is an effective way of maybe, uh, increasing the safety. So we have a motion to accept the resolution. Is that correct? We would, I, did somebody make a motion? No, we Would, I'm sorry. That's where ma'am we go from here. I would like to ask, you know, basically what would be Bill that have voted against it last chair, what would be your reason for not wanting that? And we have a volunteer. It costs us nothing. He's willing to go do the time. So I believe the last time we had 2, 2, 4, and three again. So my question would be, what would you have against this just for discussion purpose? Me personally, I'm not gonna stand in the way of it this time. My, my feelings have not changed. I still feel like PAC has its place and that's the way to go. And working with district property management, I think that's the way to go. Uh, working with law enforcement, you know, we had a, a terrible accident in 14 last week, I believe it was. So, but that was because someone ran a stop sign or rolled through a stop sign from what I heard anyway. But, um, you know, those things are still gonna be there. But, um, that's why I asked the questions. And the duckett, you know, because I don't know, no one else has said, oh, I would do it. I would do it. John said he would do it. So if John decided in the future he didn't want to do it, I wanted to make sure we were not locked into it. 'cause I still feel very strongly that we have a process already that takes care of this. But I won't stand personally, I won't stand in the way. Yeah, and I, and I agree with you, but the processes that we have outside of the multimodal group are to, to research and develop ideas to be sent to PA and stuff like that. So until PA or local government or law enforcements gets suggestions, they're, they're not really gonna do anything. So it's really just a matter of generating suggestions and, and giving them, um, giving 'em to the appropriate authorities. I, I make a, I move to, uh, accept resolution 25. I think it's 11. I don't have my glasses on. Yeah. Resolution 20 25 11. Is that it? Yes. Mm-hmm. I second it. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. I appreciate it. It Good Morning board. Emily Mor, or I guess afternoon? No, Emily Morrison, purchasing department. Today I'm requesting approval to terminate agreement 24 B dash 0 24 with Tri-State Asphalt Corporation for cut and patch asphalt repair services. This agreement provides localized asphalt repairs as needed to maintain district roadways. On April 28th, Tri-State issued a notice of its intent to terminate the contract due to operational capacity and management challenges, which is not an allowable reason for termination. Under this agreement, despite a formal request to resume work, the contractor failed to respond or to perform constituting non-performance. And at this time, staff is requesting approval to terminate for cause agreement 24 b dash 0 24 with Tri-State Asphalt Corporation based on non-performance issues and initiate suspension from future solicitations per the district policy to maintain continuity of services. Staff will utilize an existing general maintenance agreement on an interim basis while a new solicitation can be processed. I'm here if you have any questions. So who would be taking their place? We have several contractor contractors underneath those maintenance agreements. So we would get quotes from the ones who are qualified to do this service and go with the lowest quotes. Any other questions? Do we have a motion I move to approve the termination of the non-performance of agreement ITV 24 Bravo 0 24 for the cut patch Asphalt repair services with Tri-State Asphalt Corporation. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. In opposed. Thank you. And now we're going to o Old Business. Yes, ma'am. The only item on old business, um, that is currently, um, outstanding is the, so concerns along Meson. Um, you should have received an email yesterday, um, that outlined a lot of the information that Mr. Mellinger is going to go through. I also did bring, um, you should have hard copies as well, just because I wasn't sure if you would've seen the email as of yesterday. Um, but if the board is, um, agreeable, then I will turn it over to Mr. Mellinger for an overview, Please. Good afternoon. Board of Supervisors, Ryan Mellinger, district Property Management. Um, so I think I'm not gonna go into detail about what was said on the email. I think that's pretty self-explanatory as far as the historical significance of, of how we've gotten to where we're at right now. Um, what I will say is also included was a, um, update on the nematodes that we had an issue with in a lot of areas that have, you know, further stressed a lot of the grass in, in along CIN and in, in front of, uh, Sawgrass. Um, the testing that we had done with the Nimitz Pro did prove fruitful and so it did work. And so we are currently right now working on getting all the troubled areas that lead to look stressed, bare, raw dirt taken care of and, and kind of addressed with that Nimitz Pro. Um, the other areas I've recently driven down that area, a lot of it is starting to green up right now. And so I think a lot of it is starting to come back. And so again, we're gonna address the areas that are directly affected by the nematodes within Nemitz Pro. Um, in conjunction with that, um, we have worked with ra, we've worked with a couple other companies as mentioned in the email, uh, Harold's and Turf Solutions to create a, uh, two different options that we can do. One of the things that we did find out during, uh, this whole testing, uh, period that we've had over the past couple months is that the organics are, are relatively poor in this area along meson. So the two fertilizer treatments are mixtures that we have created with Heralds and Turf Solutions, both separate, um, very much the same in what they're kind of giving, but they're using different manufacturing of chemicals. So we're gonna use those and test in two 20 acre areas. Um, and SPR iss gonna do that at no cost to anybody and just see what works best, what really brings, uh, the turf back to where it needs to be. And so once we determine which one is gonna work best for that area, we're gonna go with that as the new regimented protocol for, for this, uh, pro Vista Grass that we have in the area. There will be areas where we'll have to, even after the Nimitz Pro is down and maybe we do some turf, the idea is the grass will gore back. We were already prepared that we have budgeted for, uh, sod removals and stuff like that per year, per budget. And so we're already ready to any of those areas that don't come back in a timely manner and take a little bit longer. We can go ahead if need be and replace the SOD in those areas. Um, and so that's already, we've already got that scheduled and taken care of as well, or plan to do that if need be. Um, I just wanted to run by, it wasn't on the uh, email, but I do want to give you kind of a timeframe and a schedule of when the applications will be for the fertilizers, um, Nimitz Pro and, and testing and anywhere that shows signs of it's gonna be done immediately. So that's currently, you know, underway. Um, the week of July 7th SPR plans to put about 20 acres sprayed with a mixture of Harold's Mix and Turf Solutions Mix. Again, this is a test just to see what works best in these areas and we'll go to the one that that works best. Um, the week of July 21st, we're gonna go with the Merit and a Ferta Gold on the entire property. Not just in the troublesome areas, but everywhere. Um, and this is just a regular scheduled, uh, application. August 4th, we're gonna come back and we're gonna do another spray of the Herald's Mix and Turf Solutions mix in those two suggested areas that we're gonna do it at. I don't know where they're at right now, but I will get you that information so you can drive by and see if it works or not. Um, September 1st we're gonna do another, uh, 20 acres, or we're gonna spray those exact same 20 acres. So we're doing pretty much three applications of that Herald's Mix and Turf Solutions mix. Um, and then on September 8th with the Ferta Gold and Cow Mag, we're gonna do the entire property. And in September what we're gonna do is we're gonna review the entire roadway of meson. We're gonna test any and try to see if we have any, any activities of nematodes in any areas, see if how well the, uh, fertilizer solution mix worked. Um, and then we will pick which one we want. And then in October we will begin replacing SOD as needed. After all this is said and done, if we need to replace any sod, we'll go ahead and replace sod. Um, and then we'll figure out which, which one does it. Now when we replace the side, we'll be sure to kind of till in some command soil, which will help bolster the, uh, the organics in that area as well. So we've got a pretty good plan moving forward. This is something that's been comprised by the hematologist, um, and turf doctors and stuff like that up at uf, also with Harolds and Turf Solutions and SR. And so we've been very diligent and everybody's been very willing to work towards a solution for this area. So I think we've got a good plan moving forward. It's just gonna take a couple months. I, like I said, I think a lot of the areas are starting to green up down there, but there's still some troublesome spots that we're gonna pay attention to. So, but we'll, we'll stay on top of it. I have a question about the Pro Vista Ator came and said they tested our alarm to make sure it was Pro Vista because they took this weed killer down, it kills everything else except for Pro Vista. Mm-hmm. And I guess that's a new development. Is that something that you're aware of or is that, do they just flow and smoke? Well, Privista the way it was designed was to be able to withstand a lot of that weed treatment that's on there. Some of the other, the floor tam grass and some of the other grasses that are out there, like the hay and stuff, they, they're gonna be, they're not designed for that. So that's why the initial use of prota was good. Um, that's what they thought was gonna happen, but it's just, it's too much of a stress grass and it's been causing issues in that area. So, um, really what we're seeing is the provista a slow growing grass. All the stress that we've had on it from the emails, it's the fungus, it's the drought, it's the nematodes, it's the mole, uh, the mole crickets, the, all that stuff is causing issues and stressing even further. It's not able to recoup fast enough. Does that make sense? So, so that's where it's just yellowing and, and dying in a lot of spots. We had some of our grass just on one side replaced with the han and I have to cut that three times a week compared to one time a week with the other stuff. So, yeah. Yeah, Yeah. Mr. Uh, Miller, thank you for this. Yeah. Thank you for all this information. Absolutely. There's a few questions I have in there and you saved me a lot 'cause I have my presentation ready, so I'm not gonna read that today since I already have this, um, going backwards, you know, I'm almost gonna scratch my head. 'cause we brought this up 19 months ago and I encourage people to just go by and look at my lawn. So I did follow further gator protocol. We have the same soil. I don't believe there's magic soil with me or throughout the whole district. It's a sandy soil, an nematodes are present in there. And you've already confirmed that by your, uh, studies from U-F-I-F-A-S. Okay. This is, they've been around forever. Okay. And I'm glad you're using the command soil and put it down. And the, uh, the chemical you're looking for, John is called Glos ate. I believe that the developer put this sawd down on purpose. It is a slower growing sawd. It is a long, it is a healthier sawd. It is Gly ate tolerant and what's the other sawd? We have a north, what'd you say that grass was? Floor 10? No, the um, ones that were planted up Above. Oh, Bahamian stuff. Bahamian. So when that gets in your, in your grass, it will come up. Okay. And this is, it's not Roundup and I've got my whole neighborhood doing it now, but you hit that with that glyphosate and it kills that out. And being that separates carrying their tractors back and forth, the lawnmowers, it's in their decks. It will do that. And to the point of flora cam, yeah. It, it is a, it's a faster growing grass. This grass that develop actually, if my correct, if my, uh, research is correct and I believe it is, the developer was smart to put this down, the pro vista, to stay away from the flora town because it's slower growing. It requires less maintenance, it requires less water and it actually is a preferred sod for what we were trying to achieve down here to be more Florida natural. So this would've handled everything that we need to have once established. So that takes two or three years. But anyway, going back against that, I just had a few questions for you. Um, due to extensive drought and limits on irrigation water availability to permit restrictions and turf with further stress, I would have to ask you about that because I believe we, I've asked you if there's ever any water restrictions to the areas of you said no. No. There's, there hasn't been any water restrictions, so, so I don't know why that's in this letter. Why would that be in there? That it says, uh, chemical treatments for Spur were initially attempted but provided inefficient as to we outgrew these efforts and, uh, spread extensively. Additionally, due to extended drought and limits on air irrigation, water availability, permit restrictions, and tur further stress, Regardless if we have water restrictions, we're still limited on how much irrigation that we can use based on our permits. Okay, well that's, I thank you for clearing that up 'cause that's where I was a little confused. Um, organic compounds great. Mm-hmm. Because I know that's what we need in the sandy soil. Um, I'm glad you involved invited Dr. Crow here. That's fantastic. Um, environmental sustainability could not be implemented. I've, I've looked into that when we first started because people, uh, would tell me I put more stuff down on my lawn than anyone else. My lawn's the same lawn, it's established. I did get a little bit of the green grass. I just put um, mill orite on it or black cows. So I'm glad you're doing that. That'll correct that. Um, the question as I go through there again, and this goes back to Mr. Harris's statement, uh, explicitly on the public record that there would be no cost incurred by district 13 for project wide. So that's my question is Mr. Harris stated this, this has been going on well before you Mr. Millinger and before the other gentleman that was stated on public record that there be no cost. So I'd like this board to be aware of that. Why would this board accept any cost, additional cost? This is a, so this is, that could have been put down. OIDs is not a new, uh, hazard. Um, as far as the watering, you know, the, and again, if we go around and I look at this neighborhoods and I have asked people to come to the mic and say, what did you use on your grass? Because your two lawns are gorgeous and other lawns in the neighborhood are not. The one went to Home Depot and got on their fertilized schedule. Another one's on site one and got on their fertilized schedule. So that's where I'm just scratching my head. And I'm not trying to be the stick in the mud here, but when it comes to being financially responsible to our, our, our, uh, our people or, or financially to this board to be in place, if everything was taken up to this point, I wouldn't have a problem with spending additional funding on it. But SR was under contract to take care of this and this is something that was not new. So that's why I'm just kind of bringing this up to the board if there's anything passed. And at the very end of this, you bring up that, uh, presented for review and consideration, the project wide Committee Committee. And this falls under the purview project wide, not CDD 13. So will this not be discussed with this board anymore? That's up to the board and to the chair. It doesn't fall under the purview as in you through district 13. Don't pay out of your budget for this item or have purview over this item. As far as um, contracts, it is district 13 property and it would be up to the board if we continue discussing it. But as far as a decision to change or do something different, that would be through project wide. And you pay through that, through your allocation to the project wide budget. Yeah. Okay. Well I'd like to just speak to the board now. That's still 62% of our budget goes to project wide. Okay. So I think we should still have a voice in this and be able to discuss this and have Mr. Noer come up. And again, I appreciate everything you're doing, everything you just lined out here from 800%. The only thing I would really have a problem with is it's gonna cost our constituents or homeowners extra extra funds. And I would disagree that they should have to pay one penny at this point being this was brought up for months. This has been an ongoing issue for me and believe me, it's been exhausting for me and frustrating. So Are you going To go to CAC and ask him for more money? Not, no, sir. Not, not right now. Right now funds, correct. It's, it's all within the budget. But at no point in time in, you know, Carrie, please correct me, we haven't, all of this stuff has been done under warranty. So I don't think that anybody has been affected by this. SPR has done it at their cost when it comes to all the testing, the NEM Tory or the NE Mitz Pro that we've done tests on. And then also SPR has done, it's all been at their cost. And so there hasn't been really any money incurred right now that has to pertain to this by anybody. So that, that's correct. As of now, everything that has been done has been paid through, through the normal contract pricing that is paid through Project Y. And if this new system works that they're going to try, then it, that will continue. Now because it's a different product, we may have to look at the specs of the contract that we have and if it's not in there, determine if it's a comparable spec or if something needs to be changed. But that should be minimal and I'm, I'm sure we can work through it. What we indicated of if we go to project wide is if this doesn't work, if this doesn't work, then we may get to a point where our recommendation is to no longer keep trying things that don't work and resaw the area. If that's the case, if that ends up being what we think is the best option, we would go to project wide and we would say, this is what we've been doing for the last two years. This is where we're at now and we think we're just going to continue throwing money down the drain. Or CPR is finally going to get to a point where they say, look, we can't fix this. This is bad, bad turf. I'm not saying we're there yet, but if that comes to that point, at that point we would go to project wide and give them the situation and say at this point it's our recommendation to re side. Whether it's in pieces, whether it's as a whole, um, we would certainly look at the cost and the budget. That's when there could be potentially additional costs that would be borne by project wide, which is why we would go to them. We would continue to update you just because this has been here from inception. Um, but if at any point additional funds need to be expended, we would go to project wide. Hopefully we don't get to there. But we wanted to make you aware that that is a potential option, which is why when we sent this update out, we also included project wide on it. Well, previously in project wide, I mean none of the board members were, uh, shy about talking about any area. So I mean, I know when I was on there they wasn't talking specifically about the grass and CD 13, but has there been any discussion in project wide about what's going on down here? Because those guys all play golf down here too, so they talk Uh, No, mainly just the golf courses, not any of the public areas. Mm-hmm. But nothing's been brought up to us either. So there, there hasn't been any, you know, expenses requested or Anything like that. No, I understand that. Uh, it's just, I'm just saying that typically Steve Bogo will say, well I was playing golf down and all was like, grass looks terrible, you know, so I was wondering if anyone had men has mentioned it through this. I mean even if we go back the 19 months, I mean like I said, when I was there it wasn't. And Just, just golf courses. I think. Kim, one other thing, um, and I don't know if this is it. I asked for a, uh, accounting back 19 months and I was just curious. Um, it was called, no, not on contractual plant enhancement, uh, paid to SRA on uh, 24 25 and 2125. Uh, my first question is it was floor tam so replaced. I was just wondering why we didn't just put in Pro Vista to try and keep it uniform. 'cause I know we did that out on, we have a foram and we have a Pro Vista and they two different types and then the cost was $4,075. But I also noticed in there that when they're breaking it down, and I'm not an accountant, I depend on them, there's like pine trees replaced or something. So I'm, I don't know if that fell under that curtain And I can explain that a lot of that time, a lot of that is plant enhancements or replacements that happen at entryways or something like that. And so for particularly your areas, the Villa entryways, if we did like a large plant enhancement or plant replacement area, we're gonna be replacing sod probably do. And we're going back with the Flo tam. It's really hard once they start ing it up to kind of tell a difference. But we're going back with the Flo Tam because we haven't had any issues with Flo Tam, the Prota is the one that we've had so many issues with. So I, I would hate to really put back something that we continually have issues with, you know, as, as we move on. So we wanna make sure that we're replacing it with Foram. Okay. Moving forward. Yeah. So after how long can you not tell then that you, that it's a different color? What, between the Flo Tam and the Pro Vista, is that a very long period? I, it depends upon, I mean, it depends upon where you start it. So if the Pro Vista, I mean if you're replacing a certain section, you've got Pro Vista that's stressed out mm-hmm. Right next to it, it's gonna be pretty immediate, right? Yeah. And then if we're fertilizing it, if it's treating it for Nimitz Pro or nematodes that's gonna bring it back. Don't quote me on it. It may be a couple months, it may be a couple weeks. It just depends upon how fast that wants to, to grow with it being slow growing. It may take a month or two, but, um, but again, I once it greens up and I think if you go out to some of the areas in there, you, you, it'd be hard press to tell between the two. Um, they're just both St. Augustine's just different strains. Right? Right. Yeah, we have 'em both. 'cause we had Fluor 10 replaced and the only difference is Fluor tan grows a lot faster, but other than that you can't, after it's cut, you can't tell, can't really tell. Okay, great. Same, same color, same kind of blades and everything. Mm-hmm. Just one, one thing I just want to get clear in my head. You said that they're going to be experimenting with both of those, um, different fertilizer retailer or whatever in the 20 Acres That's on them. That's on them. Yes sir. Okay. Yes sir. Okay. And then, yeah, they, they've done a, they've done a phenomenal job and they, they're, as I said, you know, one of our top contractors and so they do a tremendous job in other locations within the villages. And this has been something that's perplexed them as well as well as us. And we've been diligent on trying to put our heads together to come up with the po like the best solution. Um, and like as Ms. Carrie said, we're gonna get to a point where we're gonna be hitting our heads against the wall. So we're gonna have to rip the bandaid off at some point. Hopefully one of these two mixers are gonna work. Just to kind of go into a little bit of a detail. One's a root enhancement. There's organics in the, in the form of a seaweed or a kelp extract. Mm-hmm. So we're really kind of, we're really throwing a lot of stuff at it. And that's another thing too. We want to be very mindful of how much we throw at it because you could further stress everything and the grass itself. So I think we've kind of have seen a combination of everything, kind of a perfect storm. And as they're doing this, are they taking pictures so that you Yes ma'am. Yes ma'am. Okay. So What we're gonna be doing is we take pictures constantly of that area. Um, and we would be pulling samples, uh, soil samples and grass samples just to make sure that everything is getting to where it needs to be. And SPR is gonna be doing that as well. They're being very di diligent on this. We probably had about three or four meetings about this topic since we last talked about it. Mm-hmm. So we've got, we're everybody's heading in the right direction, so, Okay. Are we done with that Mr. Nor? 'cause I have one more thing. The, uh, water that we emailed about, um, we discussed the board meeting. You said you'd send me a picture. We are aware of the standing water in this area and I have our team working on the drainage system in this area, if at all possible, on 6 17 25, that water's still there. Did you get to any cut solution or anything yet? We haven't got any solution. I'd have to reach out to our, uh, infrastructure team or our landscape team. I know that they've discussed it with the contractor in that area to try to put some French strains or something in there. We're just trying to come up with the best possible solution that's kind of less evasive. Um, that's, it's just a hard Could we tie into the sewer there? Maybe? Are you allowed to do that? I'd have to, I'd have to get with the few people to figure out. Okay. Not the sewer. We may be able to do something with like the storm water system. Yeah. Um, but that's something that we'll have to, because once It gets really dry there, but I mean it, I was driving by again genetics, so I appreciate that. And where are we talking about? It's right as you're going into the tunnels where we had the damage, the tunnel, it's just that one area is the low spot and it just holds the mud and, you know, my concern is someone falls over and, and next thing you know, we got a problem. I just wanted Sure. We Were still talking about the tunnels, so, or talking about It again. I it's just there, you know, so Ryan, I was talking about, so I appreciate that. Okay, so on the old business I brought up about the dragon boats, and I think it was the next day some, the guy called and said they moved the boat. So I appreciate that. Thank you for taking care of that. Yes, sir. And there are several other updates on old business that has been attached that we provided via email, um, and are on the agenda for the benefit of the residents. And we're happy to discuss any of those. If the board has questions, I'll second what John said. Anything in the email, I gotta thank staff because I mean, it's, it's pretty boom, boom, you know, and I, I don't know if I know, I said appreciate you to carry and Ryan, I appreciate you too. It's just that once you get an answer, it makes my life a lot easier. Being in the community, being in the bible studies, being with everybody, and they look at you, what is this, this, and this? Then I can say, purview or not, you know, or this or that, or we are having a solution, please email. And then it, it just dives out. So thank you guys. Thank you. Okay. And so our next is informational items. Does anyone have any questions or discussion on the financial statements? IVPM monthly report for Citizens Bank and Seacoast? Yes, ma'am. Um, the only item that I have under my report is a discussion on the compliance complaint process. As you are aware, district 13 is not yet eligible to adopt a rule for deed compliance yet. Um, in order for that to take place under state statute chapter one 90, the majority of the board has to be elected through a qualified election process. And that will take place during your next election cycle. However, as you're aware, during many of your meetings, you have residents come and they have requests or suggestions on how you accept complaints. The majority of the residential districts, um, have adopted their rule and therefore the board chooses whether or not they're going to be, for example, a complaint driven process, whether or not they're going to accept anonymous complaints. Um, I had a conversation with the developer because we continue to have residents coming to district 13, 14, and even 15 at this point, wanting the board to either consider changing it, to not allowing anonymous, or just having conversations about that in general. And although you are still not eligible to adopt a rule to enforce de compliance, the developer is willing to allow you if you so choose to change how you accept those complaints or how staff accepts those complaints. So if that is something that you would like to consider, what I would recommend is we put it on the agenda for next month so that the, your residents can have an opportunity to know you are going to discuss it and then you can actually, um, have conversations as to whether or not you would like to keep it as is in which we accept all complaints regardless of who it came from. We don't ask for names or any information. Um, some boards have that option. Some boards have chosen to not accept any anonymous complaints and they have to provide their name and information in order to file a complaint. There's a third option in which some boards have determined that they want to ensure that it is a district resident residing within their district. So if that is something that this board would like to consider, then we could put this on your agenda and have a presentation for it next month. And at that point, you would be able to direct staff if you would like us to change how we are accepting complaints within District 13. So one of my questions, would it be appropriate now or do we discuss it next month? I know in the past you've made some comments that there's pros and cons to both anonymous versus public. That's right. You know, is it appropriate to go ahead and discuss those now or should we wait? Sure. I I can give you a little preview of, of, um, the pros and cons. Historically, it was always staff's position that you should accept anonymous complaint. Um, and that is because when you purchased your home, you sign your deed restrictions and you agree to those deed restrictions. It doesn't matter why you are violating the deed restriction or which one it is or who's telling on you, you're either in compliance with your deed restrictions or you're not. And it shouldn't matter who is filing that complaint. Um, we've also had issues where residents have come to the board who do not allow anonymous complaints and express to the board that they are scared to file a complaint. They don't want their neighbor to know that it was them or they're friends with their neighbor and they don't wanna cause any, any, um, animosity between the two of them. But at the end of the day, they deserve to have the deed restrictions in force that they purchased into. So those are some of the pros of accepting anonymous complaints. Um, I'll also tell you because you're not as familiar with our process is that we, we never receive a complaint and then automatically start sending letters or threatening letters or we're gonna fine you, our first conversation is always knock on the door or if nobody answers, we go back to the office and we call and say, did you know that in district 13 your due restrictions say you can't have lawn ornaments? Unfortunately, those beautiful sand crane statues in the front of your house are lawn ornaments and they are not permitted within your district. Nine times out of 10 they say, well, you know, everybody has 'em. Or I thought that they looked nice or, um, I didn't know, but okay, some of 'em even say, yeah, I know you caught me like I knew I shouldn't have 'em. But, and then they put 'em in their garage or they sell 'em on Facebook marketplace or they do what they do with them nine times out of 10. And as story, it's done. We do have the ones that say, I don't care. I drove down the street and my neighbors have them. I'm not going to change it. Or I don't agree it's a lawn ornament. Or, um, you know, maybe they're out of town and they can't, they didn't know their landscaper wasn't cutting their grass. So there are times that it does end up into a public hearing in which we have the ability to assess fines, but that is actually very few and far between, um, in the villages as a whole. So it gives us the opportunity to have those conversations and educate the homeowners on their de restrictions. If you limit that, then a lot of those conversations stop taking place because you don't receive complaints. Have we found to where it's an actual issue and you know, district five or six or whoever doesn't allow 'em are going downhill and you can't tell it's the villages anymore? No. The District five and the other districts with that don't allow anonymous complaints are still beautiful. They still are in compliance with leadership, but certainly I think I need a new money. But certainly, um, it doesn't encourage quite as many people to call if you're not allowing the anonymous complaints. Um, so that, that is kind of the pros of it. Some of the cons, uh, we have instances in which we will receive an email with 20 properties all a complaint from, you know, John Smith or, or you know, big Bird or whoever it is. And it is 15 different properties. And a lot of times it is something that they got called in on and then they're upset. So they go and they write 'em all down. Um, you'll see on social media and it's kind of one of those, um, things that you always hear, um, coming up with the little old ladies on golf carts with clipboards. That doesn't really happen. We, we very rarely get multiple complaints like that, but it does happen. Um, again, typically I think it's in retaliation of one person gets it or they put in a RC approval for something because they saw it and then they get denied 'cause it's not in compliance. So then they go turn in everybody that has had it done. So it happens, it's not very frequent, but that is a potential con of allowing anonymous complaints, um, that you would have to deal with when it comes to only allowing within the district. Um, some boards have felt that if, if you don't have a vested interest in the district, then why should you be able to file a complaint? Um, the other side to that is you all live in the villages and when you're looking at property values, it doesn't really matter what district you live in, it's the overall beauty of the villages. So there's pros and cons either way. Um, from staff's perspective, it is a policy decision on the board and we will do it however the board directs us to. Certainly if we start seeing issues, we would come to you. So let's say you decide to keep it as is except all complaints. Um, you know, if we were getting a lot of calls from residents, we would certainly direct them to the board and say the board is, you know, certainly wants to hear from you and if you want changes, you should direct that to the board. Um, but it, it really is a policy decision on the board. The, the one problem with having a, only in the district hammock at Fey has 12 and 13, and that's ridiculous that your neighbor's in 12 and you're in 13 and you can't put in. And I, I talked with the supervisors from 12 and they said they were gonna think about changing that. I don't know that they did or not, but They did not. Yeah, well, well they did not change it. I don't know if they, That's, that's real. That's ridiculous. And there's not many areas that it's like that, um, where it's literally one side to the other. But there are areas where exactly like you said, you, you're very close to district 12 or 13 and you may drive by this house every single day and it isn't violation. But if you don't live in that district, you can't file a report on it. Um, so absolutely that would be another potential con of not allowing any complaints outside of your district. And again, this board, you don't have to make any decision. This is completely up to you. You can say, we don't wanna make a decision until we adopt our rule, um, after the next election cycle. At that point, you do have to direct us how you want to do it, but at this point you can still leave it up to the developer. Um, or again, they are based on the residents having the conversations allowing you to make that decision. I would say I, uh, I had a big bird on my street and they got in a, they got in a tiff and, uh, I know Tina and Mike knew about it because we were doing the, uh, heart things and everything and it turned into a Nightmare and, uh, cameras were pointed at each other's LAN knives. I mean, it got really out of control. And, uh, so they turned him in and then he went around up into Citrus Grove and I mean, documented the heck out of people. And the next thing I know who got golf carts coming down, Seth run down there, who the heck is this? So I would say if he knew that all those people were gonna come to his house, he probably wouldn't have drove around and he would've just tried to handle the situation with the two people. So I understand that both your points, but I think if you're gonna turn somebody in, I think that they should know who it is. And I, and I'm on favor if it's just in our district, that's fine. And I think that would eliminate that. But I just experienced it and it turned out to where the guy finally left the neighborhood. But I mean, it disrupted our whole court. So does the board wanna put it on our agenda for next month and discuss it? I'd like to, yes, sure. Yeah, we can think about it. Yeah, I think, I think we'll have a lot of public comments if they read the agenda and I certainly have gotten plenty. And, and certainly, I mean that's, that's the point of the developer allowing you to make that decision, um, is so that you can listen to residents and you can, you know, make the determination that you think is best for district 13. Um, so we will, um, have a presentation. Community standards will come through and go through the four different options that you have. Um, and then we can also, if you'd like, tell you what the other boards are doing, just so that you have a feel of, um, in your surrounding areas, what the other districts are doing. Great. And that concludes district manager Report. District council, Yes. One item on the agenda for district council. And that's the age restriction. Uh, there is an opportunity if the district is interested in adopting a rules and forth any age related restrictions contained in the declaration that govern the residential properties in district 13. So this just to, just to piggyback on with that, um, the other districts that have adopted their rule, um, do have the ability now to adopt the rule for age restrictions. Deed restrictions, which generally speaking, that is one member of the household must be 55 and up and nobody under the age of 19 can reside in the home for more than 30 days in a calendar year. Those are the two restrictions that typically deal with ages. They're not in every district specifically like that, but generally speaking, those are the restrictions. The boards are now allowed to adopt a rule to enforce those, whereas previously they had not adopted those rules. Right Now in district 13, although you can't adopt a rule again, um, the developer is now, um, now that the district is allowed to do it, if you would like to do it and have staff do it on behalf of the developers, similar to how you do all of the other districts or due restrictions on behalf of the developer, you can now do that. So right now, if we get a call and they say there's a person in district 13 that has a 6-year-old living with them, we take their information and we forward it to the developer. If you would like staff to start doing that on behalf of the developer, we would then take that information and then we would do it like we do all of our other restrictions. The developer will still be paying for that because they're still paying for enforcement of all of your due restrictions, however, they would now allow us to do it on your behalf. And that's, again, just a board decision. If that's something you're interested in, then again, we would put it on your agenda for actual discussion. Um, but right now we're just thinking if you even want us to expend staff time to put something together. So I have a question. I mean, the law states that we can have 20% residents under 55. So how does that relate in that That is all managed through the developer office and that won't change. This is just, um, So this is direct and mainly some there's Children. Yeah. And again, it's, and it's all complaint driven deed restrictions. So typically we're not gonna get a call that says, my neighbor has a 49-year-old and a 52-year-old living there. But I mean, I'm sure when you meet each other, you don't ask what year you were born in. Maybe you do, but, but generally speaking, the complaints we get are when there's a school bus that's stopping outside of the villa units to pick up a child. Hmm. So we had one complaint because the, I don't know the whole situation, but anyway, kids were living in the house, so doesn't the, um, doesn't the builder take care of that? So the deed restrictions are a contract between the declarant, the builder, the developer, and the property owner. There are in district 13, both the declarant, the developer can enforce deed restrictions and so could other affected property owners. Essentially you could obtain legal counsel and sue your neighbor for not being in compliance of their deed restrictions. Once you're eligible to adopt a rule, then the district can also enforce the deed restrictions through your rule. Right now, all internal deed restrictions, including those age restricted ones, are sent to the developer to handle it. Is my understanding that they do contact the property owner and they send a letter, but they don't do anything further than that. They can, but as far as I'm aware, they don't do anything further than that. If you would like to do it based on the district process, which is when we send the letters, we have the ability to take them to public hearing and sign them. If that's the way you want to enforce data restrictions, then that would be done through us and not through the developer. So it'd be a stronger, the other, the other question is, I don't know if this is correct or not, but I've been told in district 14 or 15 that there's a rule that they can no longer rent the house for less than a month. Is that correct? I believe that there are some deed restrictions that say that in the very new areas, but I have not seen them yet. Um, I can certainly look, but I have heard that that is going to be in some of the newer deed restrictions. So, so is that something we can add? No, only the developer can alter the de Restriction. Well, I mean, if we can we request it or once we're official, can we, You as a homeowner can request it. You as a board cannot, um, you will not have the ability to change or modify the deed restrictions at all. And the only thing that your rule allows you to do is to enforce the existing deed restrictions exactly as written. So you can't change them, you can't. Um, and, and I, I say this because we have had, I've probably had this conversation a hundred times with the other districts because especially the short term rentals, the Airbnbs and vrbo, they're wanting to get a handle on those. Unfortunately, there's not that we have been able to find or with the attorneys find any provision in the deed restrictions that are in existence now that we can use to enforce those. But the builder could change that Or is that they could, I don't know what process they have to go and there are due restrictions that have been amended, but it would have to be done through the developer. Okay. Well I know, like I said, we've had trouble with people, you know, taking care of kids, which, which isn't too bad, except these were kind of rowdy. So I, you know, I think we should probably take a look at that. If, if the district is gonna be more assertive in taking care of that, that that would make sense. But is This coming because of the situation in 14 where there are school buses coming in the Villages? No, this, this has been something that has been discussed, um, as far as children in the home for years. Um, it's not a prevalent issue, but if the school bus is in front of your house, it is a prevalent issue. It's one of those things that it doesn't come up often, but when it does come up, the homeowners in the surrounding areas are very, very passionate about it. When looking at the deed restrictions, excuse me, in chapter one 90, chapter one 90 says that you can enforce external deed restrictions and things that involve with the, um, developmental order as far as deed restrictions and the development orders of the villages are, it is a 55 and up community and it is age restricted. So therefore the districts are now able to, or have always been able to, but now we are able to have you adopt that rule, or in this case, you, the developer is willing to let you direct us to do it with our process. Again, they will still be paying for it until you adopt your rule. Um, but they didn't want to assume that's what the districts would want without telling you. So the other districts that are fully like 12 and all that, are they, have they already decided on this? This is the first day that we're introducing this. So District 12 is interested in us bringing back information, they're going to have to do it through a public hearing process. So we will put a request to advertise on their agenda in August, and then they will have their public hearing to amend their rule in October. We don't even have processes yet developed on how this would happen, um, because certainly staff is not going to be following around kids taking pictures of them getting on and off a school bus. So we really have to think how we will enforce this speed restriction if the, um, boards choose to do so. So this is something that we would not implement before October in any situation. Right now, I think the, I think all of the districts will probably be interested in at least hearing about it. I don't know whether or not they will choose to adopt the rule or not. So would we like to hear about it? Yes, Absolutely. We'd like to hear about it. But like you, like you said, Ms. Williamson, you know, the whole thing with the 20% has to be sold. I don't know, but I'm, I'm willing to listen. Well, it wouldn't have to be sold because that, I mean, the 20% still is there. That's right. That this will not impact that at all because that due restriction was there. It's just going to be enforced in a different way rather than us forwarding that concern to the developer. We will follow our process. So yes, we'd like to hear about it. Yep. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Alright, supervisor comments, supervisor Kerry, and you wanna go first with Pwac? Uh, Well, uh, supervisor Law went to the last one and the next PA is actually Monday, so I have nothing to report till next meeting. Okay. So Supervisor Law you wanna talk about is the parking lot. Oh, yeah. I'm just glad that they took, uh, took me off it. And again, I I, I've talked to several homeowners after that and I had the one homeowner question me, and he says, why do you care? He said, it's not that bad. And I says, well, I said, I have had complaints, and when I have people ask me about that, then I take that to staff. Mm-hmm. My opinion doesn't matter. It's what the people think. And so I told that homeowner when we were out, I said, I believe that if that was my driveway, I would not pay for it. I said, no matter what it was done, I wouldn't do it. I said, so in essence, since you elected me, your home district 13 becomes my home. And that's why I really pay attention to those type of details. Mm-hmm. Because I wouldn't pay for it. And I said, that's simply where I'm at. Um, and the thing that when I said I did sign off, I didn't sign off. And that could have been in conversation at confusion because there is stuff there that, that's my home, and I was gonna finally make a payment on it. I wouldn't do it till it was fixed, but, you know, it's a process and what it goes through, so. Mm-hmm. Um, I still think it's bumpy. I, I still know the guys that, that, that think it's ridiculous, but again, they're empty. They don't show up. So it is what it is. I rode by there today before we came here. I mean, I saw what you were seeing, but I didn't think it was that bad either. It's not that big of a deal. And that's what I said, but again, I wouldn't pay for that if that was my driveway. Mm-hmm. If someone came in and fixed that and then said, okay, now write me a check. I wouldn't write the check. But that's just me personally. Another thing I had was, um, we had the hurricane issues. Did we receive any insurance payments or, uh, anything from the, uh, damage that was done? Because there was gonna be, uh, uh, oh my gosh. FEMA money or something. Did that ever come down the pike yet? It's not yet. It's still with fema. Everything is still pending. But they are still, they are starting to communicate with us on some of the, not debris collection, but the miscellaneous type items, like standing up trees and things like that. So we are getting communication from fema, but we don't have anything on dollar amounts for the, um, debris removal or hauling yet. Thank you. I have nothing. I don't, um, supervisor Kerrigan, did you have anything else besides cac? I didn't. I do not. Thank you. Okay. All right. Can we have a motion? What? To Make a motion to adjourn. Second. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye.

Community Development District 13 Seat 1 - Jim Daunis, Vice Chair Seat 2 - Tom Law, Supervisor Seat 3 - John Kerrigan, Supervisor Seat 4 - Gary Frigiola, Supervisor Seat 5 - Tina Williamson, Chair July 10, 2025 at 1:00 PM Everglades Recreation Center 5497 Marsh Bend Trail The Villages, FL 32163 ____________________________________________________________________________________________ AGENDA The District encourages citizen participation in the democratic process and recognizes and protects the right of freedom of speech afforded to all. As the Board conducts the business of the District, rules of civility shall apply. District Board Supervisors, Staff members, and members of the public are to communicate respectfully. It is preferred that persons speak only when recognized by the Board Chair and, at that time, refrain from engaging in personal attacks or derogatory or offensive language. Persons who are deemed to be disruptive and negatively impact the efficient operation of the meeting shall be subject to removal after two verbal warnings. Audience Comments on all issues will be received by the Board. 1. Call to Order 1.A. Roll Call 1.B. Pledge of Allegiance 1.C. Observation of Moment of Silence 1.D. Welcome Meeting Attendees 1.E. Audience Comments 2. Law Enforcement Quarterly Updates 3. New Business 3.A. Approval of Minutes 3.B. Board Consideration Item: Adoption of Resolution 2025-11 Establishing Participation in the Multi-Modal Path Discussion Group 3.C. Termination of Agreement ITB 24B-024 for Cut/Patch Asphalt Repair Services with Tri- State Asphalt Corporation 4. Old Business 4.A. Old Business Status Update 5. Informational Items Only 5.A. Financial Statements 5.B. DPM Monthly Report 5.C. Merger of Citizens First Bank and Seacoast Bank 6. District Manager Reports 6.A. Deed Compliance Complaint Process

7. District Counsel Reports 7.A. Age Restriction Enforcement 8. Supervisor Comments 8.A. Supervisor Kerrigan: Project Wide Advisory Committee After Agenda 8.B. Supervisor Law: Ezell Parking Lot 9. Adjourn HOSPITALITY STEWARDSHIP INNOVATION & CREATIVITY HARD WORK NOTICE Each person who decides to appeal any action taken at these meetings is advised that person will need a record of the proceedings and that accordingly, the person may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, incoming the testimony and evidence upon which such appeal is to be based. Audio recordings of Board meetings, workshops or public hearings are available for purchase per Florida Statute 119.07 through the District Clerk for $1.00 per CD requested. Any person requiring special accommodations at this meeting because of disability of physical impairment should contact the District Office at (352) 751-3939 at least five calendar days prior to the meetings.