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>> welcome to the city of St. Petersburg City Council meeting and your elected officials our mayor Ken Welch district one hopefully burdis. >> District 2 Council chair Randy Gabbert district 3 and not marry. Was picked for Lisette kind of way. 5 and Council vice chair Debra big spenders. Gina Driscoll. John Muhammad. And district day Richie Floyd. >> Good morning, everyone. I'm nice we don't always get a response so that's awesome they're all the way Casey. Well we will go ahead and call to order the Nov. 30th 2023 City Council meeting beginning with roll call place at an area here and what's their centers Driscoll. >> Amen. Floyd air during this air yeah, sure here. All right we will begin our meeting this morning with an indication the invocation will be given by a mom Abdul Ali from the Tampa Bay Muslim Association, followed by the pledge of allegiance please stand. >> Thank you, MADAM Chair, got peace tree with you before we do the invocation I like to make a brief announcement and I say it's an invitation to the bat as you know, though the month of JUNE there were the barrier be the moment where we all come together. The Throughout the country and celebrate the life and legacy of the late reverend doctor Martin Luther King junior. And if they travel Bay will be having an event to celebrate his life and legacy own trainer word for teens at 04:00pm. It will be a mind's eye and each church and we like to invite all of you to come we have sent you notice, you know so hopefully you will consider that and please be I guess we have got confirmation from 2 of the We hope that you will follow as well. Thank you so much MAY we pray. The. I did not like to give the greeting of we given a greeting of peace. So them come a guard peace be with you. The bylaws by law to create a surname, the market for benefactor the merciful a law that created it is one low. Lord of all worlds and all systems some of that. His servants King. Could be an excellent example for the human family. The praise and thank belong to you and you alone. And we seek your mercy and we big for your forgiveness. We pray oh Lord, but this comes to this chair discounts so and this administration we'll continue to work. For the betterment of our beautiful city every vendor and continued to work and he got it and less to do what is right for all of us citizen. But I really do so the world and all people to People so good will. Right mind that right thinking people but justices and peas for all of humanity. And we as you get yes, your blessing upon the families of those families who have lost loved one. And the terrible conflict that has taken place throughout the world. You created the human family. Puppies love compassion, not hate. You do not create an and one play love peace and compassion. When one human innocent human life is lost. It but all of humanity. And when we all stand their work and preserved and say one innocent human life. Is this though we're saving the life of the human family throughout the world. To help turn the light my own and our world. And be a better place in which all of us can live. These are prayers. We pray in your holy name. Oh man. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag. States of America and 2 and just all. You MAY be seated. Thank you mom for that beautiful invocation if you're truly appreciate you. The council members we have an agenda before us today I will entertain a motion for approval approval second. All right we have a motion a second to approve the agenda. Seeing no requests to speak clerk please up in the machine for voting. Council members in your votes present council members voted quick please tell I announce the vote. MADAM Chair motion to approve the agenda passes unanimously with council member Mohammed and Driscoll being absent. Next we have our consent agenda clerk do we have any cards on the consent agenda. No ma'am we don't Council members in a motion to approve move approval back in all right motion to approve the consent agenda seeing no request to speak clerk please a punishing for voting. Seeing a present council members have voted clerk please tell you now about. MADAM Chair motion to approve the consent agenda passes unanimously, but COUNCILMAN Mohammed being absent. All right, we are going to go first to our words and we have item d one which is our St. Petersburg police volunteer road patrol recognition and I believe we are joined today by MISTER Lindo bright is he here councilmember garter if you don't know that I love them and do a quick introduction. If that's okay you are welcome to do so. Thank you. >> Thank you, MADAM Colleagues and everybody in As. You know I have the honor and the privilege to serve on our Cathy committee and We're going to honor some some amazing volunteers and one officer who has spent a lifetime serving our city and I could not be more blessed to be up here with. Lindell bright our ada ada in diversity coordinator very excited to the work that it. These volunteers do and the and the lifetime of work this officer's done so. It's my pleasure to introduce lend Albright. Thank you councilmember really good for the company. First of all City Council I want to thank you guys welcome to you as this is long overdue as you know last time it was before covid all right so capping wanted to rihanna guys to support patrol so we're kicking off that we just I do it on an annual basis again also but on behalf of Kathy would have been the staff liaison for captain with the committee fabric is the person with a pen is that we want to salute the men and women of the safety put 3 to 5 roll part of the cause. Those folks throughout Austin job for the city and also happening Cappy out when I say that when you know with the tickets his death but kept the benefits from that well we can able to be able to make purchases to help with accessibility in the city of that need and also the support from the police by chief Halloween all his staff must do so. So is our humble point to make sure we honor a rope tow. Volunteers led Miami. Outstanding job they do it too and that's a what I want to do now is just going to call him names of each one and it's a ticket that would have by the way we've got a special presentation fafsa was what's the latest that we do that it the basic what is the tip is going to be saying is that if it can appreciation the certifies that all are up to a volunteer for the outstanding service and valuable and I want to fuss at valuable contribution to the residents and visitors of that city. I mean because you guys do a very awesome job for us and on behalf of camp that would extend that out to each everyone of you guys okay on that and make sure so Michael 8 nays, MADAM Chair. Just so that atm we could present, you know for the best. And if I'm mispronouncing your name you don't show set to get under way I would try to do my best I Joanne and to ask. And tonight if you to stand when a car in a just and when it came to the case. Craig Baumgartner. Okay Jacques Craig. We're not cooling 10. 10 Estabrook. Rich Lawrence. Richard like e. You to hear it. Okay Carla Masterton. Help on a know they had. Don Murray. A car really koski and he's come to Joseph best role. And manage of these are all the volunteers that help at rope to again they do awesome job forces death on that point so they got to be commended for the work that they do for us on now. I also worsened. You know what we was about fat too. You know get ready to retire at some 32 years with the city I mean the years I've been here with the city has been working with him and I mean he is committed by how he has reached out and he's assisted these ballot whose he's been there when we need it thing is that the answer to college stuff so I got to give it all to him what he has done make sure we are here so I'm a little bit of officer Wilson history here. >> He grew up in Illinois. And it's a good long way away the really traveled to the item that can come out of the can. Safety joins us from 1991 to 1982. He went to patrol vision for the division that to community policing he spent the last 12 years a rope tow coin aid supervising and training a group of volunteers which some folks with says police with traffic control acessible parking enforcement. His personnel file is filled with comments from citizens supervalu other fellow officer for his professional can attest and caring demeanor was that fun of that for 30 years he made a positive very positive and I want to be a very positive difference in the day to day mission. The same people started to serve our community and he will be missed So but we want to make sure it that you have this in Council goal that won it used to. We do this with him because you I love this month. So City Council we are presenting officer Wilson with the sunshine ambassador word this morning officer thank you so much for your service and everything you've done for the last 32 years. We want to keep it. >> to go now haha. Don't go too far because I'm sure we'll have some and would you like to say a few words Well it's just been a pleasure to serve this great department Spears Boston careers and just proud to be a Saint Pete police officer for best 32 years so I think everybody around me think my wife they paid people here. They come in leadership for just doing a great job and. Thank you guys thank you guys very much. Well. The thanks is all from. Thank you officer Woodson for giving your entire life pretty much to the city of St. Petersburg and for what you've done every single day and for your work with these volunteers and thank you to all the volunteers. I think that you know the work that you do is so commendable and the fact that is truly volunteer and you put yourselves out there every single day to support our residents and so just thank you from the bottom of my heart for everything that you all to be very important to us and thanks to all the members of a Saint Pete Thank you all for being here with us today to support officer and thank you all it's always good to see we're going to a photo after council members take comments so don't go away. Councilmember might marry think thank you MADAM Chair I I too want to officer Woodson for. 32 years of distinguished service to the St. Petersburg Police Department and the city of St. Petersburg thank thank you so so much for. Your dedicated My my brother, Tim. Also served 32 years and I you're dedicated just like he was to protect and serve our community to all the people that that serve as a volunteer in the road road patrol. Thank you so much. This is what one of the things that makes our city so great. It's because people step up and in volunteer their time to make our city a better place so thank you thank you, thank you, MADAM Chair, thank you. All right do we want to do a photo. I think we do I mean that wasn't really a question so come on that. Like you all had a choice right now. All the members of Saint Pete everyone I think that it we continue to follow your right here in the middle and then everyone else can kind of come around. We can do some members of the Police Department up here with us. We finally get it. We love it, yeah so that was the most to see is thank you for being the year by and we want you right in the what's the all coming week or 2 ok all right one more week. Yeah, all right everyone wears our photographer there she is all right so normally Maurice stands in the back so you could We as anybody else need to come Officers come up yet she was on the year. >> As we actually can I was over Thu. To yeah, yeah, all right, everyone hey good morning. Free to move your head. 3 heads of a 2 to one. >> All right. Yeah you Thank you all for your hunt. We're going to see a young man regulation. Well. We get information of us. Thank you for your son has. >> should have. I worked a little bit but it I stayed up And I was in a MADAM Chair. Thank you council member of the Us this morning to you like it's only midnight that's no big Posley 12 30 last night at one 30 year. Yeah. Yeah, the alarms. >> There's using tips all right, we'll get just a second for the chambers to we're going to open clerk, if you want to go ahead and read the rules for open form. The PRESIDENT If you wish to address to the Council on subjects other than public hearing or quasi judicial items listed on the agenda. Please sign up with the clerk. Only the individual wishing to speak MAY signed the open form she only see the residents on the property business owners in the city. 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Time limit on comments the requirement that any presentation materials must be submitted in advance of the meeting and the rules of decorum we've live public comment is disrupted by violations of the rules of decorum the chairs authorized to accept public comment by alternate means including by email only in MADAM Chair, we do have speaker. And this fall to the time is 31 in Sam knows him speak about >> First 2 speakers, William Hermann and Kerry Mueller please go to I the podium state your name. >> Merry holiday season to everybody. My name is another one 34th their view North and historic Florida Leone. I speak today as an individual and not on behalf of any affiliated with. You know when I first heard about systemic bias is standing by a study that was a whole bunch of liberal malarkey. So really this is a 21th century surely we've advanced beyond that. But then to use a biblical metaphor like Saint Paul. I had my road to Damascus moment. While traveling abroad in SEPTEMBER I read about the water wastewater rate increase. So much to my wife's chagrin I started looking at the water rates and building excel spreadsheet models while on vacation there really went over. Well. Well let's start with one of my credentials for looking at this. I wouldn't be able to concentration of finance 40 years of utility experience 27 years. In a municipal utility arena 20 years of looking at water and sewer rate study sun except in Yemen. Bf my former employer and is formally trained in rate studies wwa classes. Putting aside my obvious demographic biases and using only my work experience in formal training in rate making. I look at just 2 aspects of utility funds to summarize my review, the poorest segments of our population are subsidizing the wealthiest. I am not sure there's a clear example of systemic bias now keep in mind in AUGUST of this year. If you ask me about this I was the guy who thought just any bias was a fallacy. In 3 minutes. It's impossible for me to fully explain the means and methods I use during my priest died during that short study I did. Nor do I expect you to suddenly change the rates based on this presentation. If there's a real desire to protect the working poor. If there's a real desire to protect the senior citizens of the city you have to choosing between paying utility bills and buying their medicine. If there's a real desire to learn a systemic bias we'll go to urgent to pass a resolution to request us cities. Chief equity officer to investigate utility rates for systemic bias I'm exceedingly confident that the objective review of the rates will come from Justin to needed. Provide outside input to the chief equity officer review, I want to make my services available. Thank you very much. Good morning. My name is Kerry Miller I live it 12 in jeans and I'm here today to talk about the rays Heinz deal and so excited to have the rays in our team is real asset of our city. But as I've been looking into the development terms I've been concerned about the financing of the deal and asked for some meetings with City Council in case, I'm missing something so I can clarify the terms of the deals and see if there's anything that I'm not including in the analysis that I've done. But I wanted to talk today about them and subsidy, the 60 acres of land in the East side of the parking lot adjacent to the rays and how much they're offering in their development terms as well as the subsidy that we're providing for the stadium itself and I want to talk about the affordable housing as well as the community benefit part of the deal. So in regards to the land purchase right now there's 60 acres of land has been appraised in 2021 for million. However that appraisal didn't take into account. The land has been rezoned to be able to allow for high-rise construction. So that greatly appreciates the value of the land. The other thing is that the city is giving Hines a million for infrastructure and that also increases the value of the land since the appraisal was completed. So right Heinz is offering a million for the property. However, the city is giving a million for infrastructure. So the Net is that they're actually getting $25 million in credit for taking the 60 acres of land. They're offering $50 million in community benefits though if you add that all up it's a $25 million purchase price. So I really like clarification see if there's something that I'm missing about that. And then in regards to the stadium. There's 2 public funds that are subsidizing the stadium one is city bonds and one is County bed tax. So the bed tax amount is 300 million and the city is taking. The bonding capability for that that so and actually ends up being quite a bit more when you consider the amount of interest ends up being million for the bed tax funds in the city itself is offering 400 million. And that also has debt service so it ends up being 704 million. If we use the 20 acres that the city and the sitting on 4 development we would receive property property tax revenue but since we're using it for the stadium reaction actually receiving revenue. So we lose on approximately $463 million. A real see taxes. If you add up the 700 for the bonds plus the 463 that you lose in property tax. Plus the value of the land itself which is a 100 million or even giving 20 million in the interest on the bonds back to the stadium. It's actually up to 1.2 billion and that doesn't even consider the county amounts. So thank you. Next to speakers. And Pollock in Jeremy of least Hallberg you can read the writing we do. He's got I the podium state your name and address for the record you have 3 minutes to address City Council. Good morning, a City Council. Thank you for having and Pollock my address is 4.33 Central Avenue. I'm here to support the rays Hines development project and encourage you supported as well and contribute the Contributions and to make it successful. I'm a land Development commercial real estate attorney here in Saint Pete. And I'm I'm very excited for the possibilities that can come from this. But I want make clear that my the success of my business depends on other seeing Saint Pete as the place to move to to develop in to bring their companies too. I travel a lot internationally and nationally both for business and for pleasure and when I travel people ask me where I'm from and ice will say Saint Pete and they'll say oh where's that and I say it's it's near I love Tampa. And for a while I stopped saying Saint Pete because it was just easier and I would say Tampa and now with Saint Pete sort of resurgence I going back to saying and from Saint Pete and ice kind of still often get that response. And what I think is really great about this raise Hines project with Hines particularly a part of it is that it can truly move Saint Pete to the next level. Both the development and the strong national an international company that Heinz is to really bring the recognition that we need to bring the businesses to the site to support the financing to build it and to make it 62. I see developers day in day out a lot of them are already know about the secret that is Saint Pete. Some don't but they they see that the construction costs. The insurance costs. The interest rates. Our true challenges that were already fighting to bring development here that successful and really help Saint Pete grow and when we additionally are facing challenges daily to take back things set Saint Pete is already done that are successful for instance, psta and if I can and aside ask you to please support number 3 in support of psta very strongly as they move forward to what they're doing. I I want to say that these challenges truly add to the difficulty of really growing and attracting top companies to Saint Pete and so I would encourage you to support this project to bring this the diverse array of businesses that will come to bring the economic vitality that will continue to come with this development and to allow once in a generation development project to continue. Thank you so much. >> My name is Jeremy Tolbert I live for 17 lead away and snow. It's interesting the last speaker talked about challenges I think we've got a lot of challenges facing the city and the the the difficult part of that is we don't know what they're going to be until they The fat past 5 years has shown us anything it's that challenges can come from nowhere, they can be unexpected and they will happen that could be a war that could be a global pandemic could be a real estate slump it could be anything that could be a storm out in the gulf. The interesting about the stadium It's a lot of challenge it's a lot of promises and none of those can be guaranteed all of them coming at the risk of future benefits future economic growth and generations to come in St. Petersburg you know it's interesting to hear from proponents of the stadium who talk about the intangibles that stadium can bring. I know there's mayor this last pri 2 weeks ago went and did a fact-finding trip in Atlanta Georgia. I believe that was for the same kind of stadium Cove stadium Battery It's the same kind of makes you stadium deal with majority funded by County and local funds. And we're the same promises about increased economic benefits. The mayor met with a group of people who privately benefited from using public funds for the Atlanta stadium. There's some of the facts the mayor didn't bother to find and this is true of almost any stadium deal you care to give of slight bit Trudy this is from an economic study done by jc Bradbury the Kennesaw State This is 10 years after the completion of the stadium. I'm not going to bother read this for you, but I can share it if you like I hear some findings from and this is after 10 years of the completion of the stadium, commercial properties around the city went down relative to the nearby areas, the sales tax receipts and neighboring counties went up more than those around the stadium. And that's after opening and all the same promises the property values also did not rise relative to the neighboring counties anywhere in the state deems the city. And overall the fiscal benefits the new park fell well short of the cost to taxpayers. These taxpayers are left funding in annual revenue shortfall of nearly million a year for the stadium and again that's for a population base that's almost 4 times that in St. Petersburg. Simply looking at these facts around the stadium deals we're hearing all the same promises that there's going to be tons of benefits but there's no facts are substantial information to back that up and we're also not demanding anything out of this deal is going to benefit the stadium to anybody in the city, this is a cash transfer from the people can afforded to people who don't need it at all these are billionaires at the at the expense of everybody live in the city our children our grandchildren probably this is 30 years and I'd like to point out the average turnaround time for a new team, the team demanding a new stadium is under 20 years. So we want to have this paid off by the time all these new stadiums are are are expected to be in demand it think about what's happening in Detroit Cleveland anywhere around the nation. The facts are the same. Thank you. Were speakers all right, we will close open forum and go to our public hearings. We'll take up item e one and clerk can you please read the title. We really separately sep separate. Yes, yeah. Those proposed ordinance number 5, 6, 5, each. An ordinance of the city of St. Petersburg Florida amending the city's land development regulations, amending sections. 16.0 1.0 4, 0, to preclude application of land development regulations to certain affordable housing projects approved pursuant to section. 1, 6 6.0 4, 1, 5, 1, 6 or pursuant to. 1, 6 6.0 4, 1, 5, 1, 7, a 4 statues and providing an affected date and. >> No cars on the side of that jury we're joined by housing neighborhood services administrator Amy Foster for presentation. >> Good morning Council we have a very brief presentation this morning because this is gone through. Committee that we we do think this is a really important development for city and we know many of our developers are excited for us to be one of the first communities. In the state that has made the changes too. Have a process to implement Senate bill one to 2. So just as a reminder Senate bill to pre ends the regulation of use density and height, but that doesn't mean that we can't regulate. Developments and other ways. This is just outline showing that we must approve propose a multi-family rental developments whenever they're going to be affordable for 30 years. One of the things that I know there's some concerns about is exactly what this will look I'll remind you that these changes actually remove the ability to develop multifamily and residential which are previous code allowed us to do. But this is what 82 acres looks like we went through some of these examples in the of the whole does the Madison at 75. Units per acre. The Salvador at 84 and Delmar terrace at 80. Whenever there's going to be 40% affordable at least a 120% am I. It changes the height allowances and so we Corey with us if you have any questions around this. But this shows the types of Heights that you might see throughout our city and again this is mandated in the bill and not something that we can change. So we're to chapter, 17.5 actually removes the residential from or 30% projects which I already mentioned and also provides a process for administrative 40% projects. While we were at it we decided to go ahead and make some changes 30% projects as well because we believe that those 30% projects that come in under a 120% am I are still important in order to reach our strategies and goals for housing opportunities for all plan. The administrative process is the same review as 30% You're all familiar with that you approve projects last year for Palm Lake. Raytheon you're looking at things like ingress and egress is it compatible to the area things of that nature is there enough green space. And it also establishes in tm one as our standards for industrial zoning. The amendments we made to that 30% optional projects or eliminating the 5 acre minimum for industrial and reducing the 60 unit to a 10 unit minimum. The idea behind that is we don't want to spend a bunch of staff time for 2 units 3 units for try Plex but 10 is actually worth the amount of time that would be required for that administrative process approval and we also eliminated the public hearing you sat through very long public hearings before there's not a public hearing required for the 40% projects and so we felt in order to make that 30% effective. Removing that hearing would be important. As a reminder of what was discussed in the committee of the whole though we did want to provide a process for neighborhoods to provide feedback. So there's a 30 day noticing period neighborhoods and citizens will be able to provide comments that will be considered and what we include in the conditions of approval and if a developer does not like staffer requires as conditions of approval or we deny an application then that p appeal process would still go to City Council. We're I'm joined by planning and development services if there are any questions. Cards on this item. No ma'am okay, no cards on the so Clark has read the title for the So I would entertain a motion unless Council has an inquest move approval you want to. >> So we have a motion a second for the seeing their request to speak clerk is a punishing for voting. Council members and their votes. Seeing all present council members a vote a clerk please tell me announced the vote. MADAM Chair motion to approve agenda item e passes unanimously, but COUNCILMAN Muhammad being absent. Okay clerk can you please read the title for anyone be a proposed ordinance number 5.64 h in order to the city of St. Petersburg Florida amending chapter, 17.5 of the city code related to housing assistance, amending the existing process pursuant to sections 1, 6, 6, 0, 4, 1, 5, 1, 6, and 1, 6, 6, 0, 4, 1, 5, 1, 7, 8, Florida statutes. We're in the city MAY administratively approved the development of housing that is affordable in designated zoning categories subject to procedural and site compatibility requirements providing for severability and providing an affected date and no cars for this item as well move approval, you want to be second. Okay, we have a motion a second free one b singer requests to speak clerk punishing for about him. Its members and your votes seeing all present council members voted clicked least I announce the vote. MADAM Chair motion to approve agenda item e one be passes unanimously with COUNCILMAN Mohammed being absent. Ok thank you, thank you MISS Pastor. All right, we will now move on public hearing item to is a another amendment to our land development regulations. So quickly please read the title. And this is the first reading first public and I posed ordinance 5.66 h an ordinance of the city St. Petersburg Florida amending is a man Rick development regulations amending section one 16.0 6 0, 1 0.1 of the city code to modify community Redevelopment agency submittal and procedural requirements for a large multi-phase projects ending the use permissions and parking requirements matrix and zoning major ix and section 16.1 0, 2, 0.1 to add new civic related uses and associated parking requirements and modify permitted zoning districts from certain existing uses amending section, 16.2 0.1 to 7.2 to 4.6 exemptions for civic related uses and modify building massing and regulations in the downtown center dc zoning districts, amending section, 16.4 0, 9, 0, Dubai's to skews me to establish bicycle parking and off-site parking standards in dc districts for civic Renee that uses amending section, 16.4 0.1 2 0 to add as sports stadium use. Just to the sign code providing for severability and providing an affected date. No cars on this item, MADAM Chair and in the second public hearing for this item is on 12/14/2023. We have we are joined by planning and development director let's add burnout the for a short presentation. Good morning. Thank you Elizabeth Abernathy director of planning and development services today is both the first reading and the first public hearing because we are changing our use matrix. That requires 2 public hearings. So I'm going to go through the presentation for you today. And while that was a rather long title. These these changes really are very targeted to civic related uses. So again the proposed amendments primarily relate to civic uses to clarify and update where such uses are allowed clarify minimum vehicular and bicycle parking requirements for certain civic uses an update design standards to better reflect the particular design constraints for the students. Currently these civic uses are not specifically addressed in the land development regulations and given the future potential for these uses this amendment will provide clarity as to the allowable locations the Pickler and bicycle parking requirements in addition, the proposed changes to the use matrix we'll also provide additional locations for consideration of performing arts venues. Outdoors as a special exception use. And allow microbreweries as a permitted use and certain downtown Saint or zoning districts. An indoor sports stadium use will be a permitted use and several of our dc and commercial districts Convention Center will be a permitted use in those same commercial and downtown districts and performing Arts Center outdoor is expanded as a special exception use and commercial regional center employment center and institutional center. This tracks. So the proposed parking standard for sports stadiums is tiered based on location consistent with the tiered approach used for other uses for downtown locations where multi modal options, including rideshare arson runner brt bus trolley bike scooter share and shared parking garages are available. A requirement of one space per 20 seats is proposed in our traditional zoning districts outside of downtown that would be one space for 10 seats and in suburban districts, one per 5. Research of other urban sports. Stadiums revealed a range of parking requirements from 0 to one space for 10 seats. And most newer stadiums located in or near downtowns have moved away from construction of onsite parking and increasing utilization of other modes of transportation such as rideshare and transit. The proposed amendments include establishing minimum short and long-term bicycle parking for the sports stadium and performing arts venue uses and allowing a greater distance for off site parking of these uses in downtown of up to a half mile. Modification is included to downtown minimum building setback requirements to exempt civic buildings such as sports stadiums performing arts venues, museums hospitals and government buildings from the maximum floor plate size and all downtown center zoning districts and increase the maximum floor plate size to 30,000 square feet for office and medical uses and the dc to in dc one areas west of doctor mlk King Street junior. The current downtown regulations limit the floor plate in these in these areas and these unique building types require larger floor plates to accommodate the floor plan for the use for example the recently constructed Museum of American arts and crafts movement was granted a variance to this code requirement and other museums such as a Salvador Dali and the James Museum of Western wildlife art the prior to the code requirement. Also have these larger floor plates that are in conflict with our current design standard. This amendment recognizes that the civic type buildings have unique design and floor plan requirements for open spaces and gallery spaces that can conflict with that those floor plate limits. The next change will allow the building and massing provisions in dc one east of doctor mlk junior Street to apply 2 d c one west of doctor mlk junior Street for that area south of First Avenue South. This change will facility planned redevelopment of that area which extends from the first Avenue south to the interstates and West in a manner that's consistent and compatibility compatible with adjacent developed areas to the east and North in an appropriate now some scale promote proposed modifications to the signage regulations include it adding sports stadium to clarify that they be included in certain exemptions that allow civic buildings related to banners and large facility signs. The last proposed change relates to our community Redevelopment agency submittal requirements and procedures for large multi-phase multi building projects in downtown and in than in town what West redevelopment areas. This proposed change would allow for those projects that exceed 5 acres with more than one phase and more than one structure to submit a conceptual site plan generally depicting phasing open space layout and conceptual building elevations and include an architectural narrative. There are several comprehensive plan policies and objectives which support these changes presented today and in the ordinance this did go to our drc that held a public hearing voting 5 to one in. Finding these amendments consistent with our comprehensive plan and recommending approval. And staff is recommending that you conduct this first public hearing today and set our second public hearing and adoption for Dec. 14th. Concludes my presentation and I'm available along with a few other members of our team to answer any questions you MAY have thank you. Thank you and you said there's no cards on the recommend chair. All right council members move approval. I can. Alright councilmember Flynn. Thank you, I'm Thank you. Thanks for the presentation. I just had a couple of quick questions first there was one dissenting vote on the last night you said can you give us any info as to what their concerns were for so the conversation with the development review commission members. Really was focused on parking and what was the appropriate parking standard. There was one commissioner that felt that the lower parking a standard in the urban area might not be the other commissioners felt the and the idea of eliminating surface parking lots and having garages and shared parking. Generally for those other commissioners was found consistent with our comprehensive plan. But there was one commissioner that had those expressed those concerns that's that's interesting because the my next question was going to go back to slide 4 in the parking Let me it sounded like you said that when you went out and Parking for other. Sports stadiums went from 0 spaces proceed to one space for 10 seats and then you got in here. One space for 5 seats, so it looks like you gone above and beyond what you've been able to find in other places. So again the distinction is an urban versus suburban location. So the research we did was on urban sports. Stadiums those located in city suburban. Needs a higher standard and that is a typical the requirement of other types of those types of sports stadium and assembly you says away from a downtown. That's why that's why the higher standard so if any of those uses word of the outside of our downtown we would be looking at a higher standard because we don't have the brt we don't have the shared garages, we don't have the the infrastructure in place that allows that. Lower standard in downtown okay I see now in your last sentence here research of other urban sports. Stadiums I MISS The word urban the first time in a. Okay all right, yeah actually I just wanted to make sure we were in line and maybe even pushing the envelope a little bit especially with brt I really would like for us to keep doing everything we can to create a man to make sure the project successful. So that's all I've got for you, thanks. Council member and what's in queue in councilmember Floyd hit on what I wanted to hit on which is a slide number 4 also so I were on kind of the same page here. So the wearer read this is the research suggests that in urban areas. The average is one space for 10 seats cracks. >> It's not the average that was just one of the requirements I found in the research and I grab my file here. There or a number where of state urban stadiums where there are no parking requirements so that was really the range from that I found is either there was no parking requirements are that the the highest parking requirement I found was the one per 10. And so are our one per 20's kind of in between if you will those. 2 bookends okay. Okay, so that's what I was trying to figure out and in terms of. >> I guess what's similar to our city. You know when you look at these other urban sports. Stadiums like what did you find that to let's say camp by area or something along those lines amelie arena, I like what what is the standard. So in Tampa a sports stadium is considered a public assembly use and goes under those standards. I know I have no I have no it's not all of this they they really don't have a lower standard, but they also have apd zoning process whereby they can request an e parking standard that you know that they feel is appropriate to that you so they have some flexibility built into the way their zoning is set up that's a little Versus a variance procedure but this in establishing this use this really recognizes that these are the county uses where people will per can take a trolley or they're going to take the sun runner they're going to use other and others not at the same expectation of being able to park on site in close proximity as you might have been in a more suburban area. Yeah I just was wondering because when I go to an event. In Tampa there's no brt there's no. None of what you're talking about you getting your car and drive and I think the same thing happens and people come from Tampa to hear to go to a stadium and then you go look for parking and then you have to find parking. So I'm I'm just wondering how it fits and if this is I 4 sports stadiums our week and a half I have the capacity just like they would over the okay that's a great question how are we going to understand but gauging all with our potential new sports stadium that think that was 100 so there's been a lot of conversations and that's part of even the discussions on the development agreement and. Evans here today and he can speak to our parking resources and some of the discussions but there is an intention on the part of the rays Hines team to engage a consultant that is going to prepare their parking plan. I mean it's imperative to them as to make sure that their guests coming there do have a place to go and that they're the you know that communication is in place so people can say where can you know pull up an app and say what are my options, what are the costs and then how do I get from that option to the stadium and so they are working with. Our staff with their consultants to make sure through the different phases of their project that there's a you know it the proper amount of parking available. For there. For their guests so ok and so these changes allow for. I guess the capacity that's going to be necessary for parking for stadium use when people travel here right and that's the biggest concern I hear this and the flexibility. Right so looking at you know you you will see that ventral master plan for the gas plant district and there's going to be a variety of parking structure as with different. >> Shared uses that will some things that will be Dedicated for stadium day and all the off-site parking and the as well as. You know other public garages and transport to and from so there will be a very detailed plan and program for that stadium. As it comes forward okay. Thank you very much councilmember might marry. I had. Questions on the same topic and I'm glad my colleagues are thinking along the same lines because I I just want to make sure we get things right I just think in terms of we're going to have we're we're planning on a on a Marge mixed use. And I think in terms of worst-case scenario like baseball game going on something happening at a museum something the concert. You could have a lot of things going on at the same time and I want to make sure we have enough capacity so everybody can can enjoy it and I also don't want the residents that live there. Not to have a place to park because we'll have some affordable housing senior living out there in the plan it calls for 14,000 spaces. Can you kind of give us. You can you give us a little more detail about the 14,000 spaces mean what what is what's the 14,000 based on it is that related to what's before us here. This is really setting a baseline. Again because this MAY not be the only sport stadium we ever see in our city in a week we could have soccer we could have basketball we could have there's a lot of other potentials in our future and so this is really kind of setting a baseline for those uses and convention Center's and other types of civic uses. I have not been in the detailed discussions about the rays Hines and all of their parking ratios I do have Evan here if you would like more information on that. But again this amendment is really to identify what should what should that baseline be and then as a project comes forward like. The new re stadium you're going to look at it on a case-by-case basis of how how is that actually going to work. And through our development agreement and that term sheet that you've seen those are the details are all working on now. I don't want to shift into a discussion on the re times development but I I would if anybody know does anybody have an answer so we're talking about parking. MISTER Mori and you can you can you should shed a little light on. The 14 also when we come back on the 14th bring some additional information and don't can't answer all your questions today I'll defer to Evan at this time to think straight. >> Morning The 14,000 spaces as I recall was the proposal from raise Hines that was their calculation of full build out of what parking be required. And this is one of those cases where you definitely want to use us shared parking scenario, particularly with the Users that are there during the day and then most to baseball games are nights and weekends so the last thing you want to do is build a whole lot of extra parking spaces for just baseball use because it's going to be used such a a small percentage of the time. So as as legislators mentioned I think that the number of spaces is going to determined in the future, but that 14,000 was the initial estimate. All right, thank you I I just want a little context of what we're doing here and what we're we're looking at doing with this resigned from his development. So thank you. Thank you chair. >> Its support of this I think it makes sense. I love that we have taken into consideration. All the different ways that we have developed for people to get from Point a to Point b and without using a car. So this does take into consideration. A lot of the work of Evan and his team over the years to bring e-scooter share to Saint Pete bikeshare the sun runner of course and we'll be hearing about that more and beds. It really it and we've seen just this past baseball Often people utilize the sun runner to get to the games. I think this this is smart moving forward. I think it's. The total spaces that we're talking about 4. The redevelopment. It's enough for baseball, but it's not too much that we are going to have empty spaces throughout the year. I mean keep in mind. We have a completely different experience that's coming. It is going to be a year-round multipurpose venue so even when it's not baseball season will have people coming for. You know a variety of events throughout the year. So looking at this and thinking about what those needs are going to be around. I think we're I think we've got the right formula here and I agree with that I do find it interesting that it. That truist Park is considered an urban sports stadium because as we saw was when we were just there couple of weeks ago. It and not not not exactly what I would consider to be an urban area. Perhaps one day it will be. But they do lack that the Trans the easy transit options there. So that I really don't compare this. Apples to apples. Especially after seeing it I agree with you. Yeah. I'm trying to create an urban area, but it's in it's a it said it's a doughnut hole in a suburban area we have the opposite right, you know we we're current we're going to create an urban level development in an area that's already urban and we have that connectivity definitely have that that advantage here. Yeah, yeah for sure. }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}?}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} >> 95 if you will all 7, 8, 6, 7, day a ploy ease abdication. Okay, yeah, it's just the way it was worded just threw me out a confusing haha in that said I I think this is fantastic it. Right sizes are parking requirements for. >> For these future uses thank you. Seeing no further request to speak we have a motion a second clerk Lisa punishing for voting. House members in your vote. Present council members voted clerk least I announce the vote. MADAM Chair motion to approve 2 passes unanimously. All right. Thank you MISS Abernathy thank you MISTER Murray. All right we will now move on to our legal items we have 2 items item j one and j to both will be presented by assistant city attorney Nicole Dyer could. Good morning. I will start with a j one and we're here seeking an increase in the not to exceed amount. The retainer agreement with a great drinker. From 5.50. We were previously before Council in Where you can from the retention of fake or a drink or to help us with the principal project agreements for the new stadium project in the gas plant project. As anticipated at that time there was going to most likely be an increase in the not to exceed amount and we're here today seeking that approval to increase that not to exceed amount from the $250,000 to the 500. And I'm happy to answer any questions. Council member Hannah what's I thank you so much I. >> I have a question so why the large increase specifically. >> This is a projection at least our best protection because we move into the phase of actually drafting and reviewing the project documents which as you saw the cow are numerous. So it's going to require increase. But not only our office but outside counsel, 2 complete those traps. Now does this have anything to do with the fact that there are some time requirements to this. I mean I think that's a fair statement on trying to operate in that time frame that was proposed at the Callan have these documents of if at all possible done in the spring. We need to move quickly and because of that we need to kind of spread the wealth on the drafting years, although our office will continue you instrumental in the process to be able to move this as quickly as possible requires significant use about sing what's driving these cars time constraints. Thank you councilmember. What's driving the time constraints. So I mean really I think it's all or optimism and about this new potential development at the historic gas plant we're very excited too. Finally have an agreement in principle to keep the Tampa Bay rays here and to have a world-class developer like on board. And it's important that we move this forward and we're comfortable with the timeframe that we're working on and we think this investment is he's worth what we're trying to do with the historic asked point. >> a quarter of a million dollars for optimism to do agree months that we can normally work on and that have to spend that the amount of money I don't know what the rushes. So I understand you're you have a different decision I understand that I'll just leave it right there. >> All right. We have motion a second singer for the request to speak clerk Lisa permission for voting. Council members and your but seeing a present council members a vote a clerk please telling announce the >> MADAM Chair motion to approve agenda item j one passes 5 to 2 we councilmember Floyd and handle is voting no councilmembers Driscoll fix Sanders Gabbert there Dustin Martin are voting yes, and council Mohammed being absent. All right item Ga 2. Item j 2 are asking for you to confirm the appointment of Brent Miller, all special legal counsel to provide legal advice on various. Finance related matters in connection with the stadium project in the historic gas plant project an amount not to exceed a $100,000. This could include advising us on various financing structures looking at financing terms of the a political project agreements and some other tax increment among other things and then we're approval to increase the bright Miller, all of fee cap for the publicly offer debt. To be an anticipated to be issued for the new stadium project from a $125,000 to 2.50. And as was mentioned previously at the Cal the city will be issuing the publicly offer debt for the stadium project this would include but the city contribution amount and the county contribution amount. This request is consistent with our bond retainer agreement with Brent Miller, all of that was executed in 37. Given the increase in the as a result of us issuing but the city and the county debt. That this request is being sought today for your approval to increases be capped we can. Now this mentioned that MISTER Draper Carol Miller, all of us here have any questions. Thank you and I'm going to go again to my previous question that I asked last time if this is driven by. This one I would say is not for but by the time. This this one is driven by simply relying on the expertise of bond Council in multiple respects like this are indicated. Coming up with the most efficient and cost-effective way to do that and also making sure that we're crossing every t dot every I and making sure that all of the agreements best protect the city. So this isn't timing related it's more expertise related. So why didn't we have this fee about up front that we should have known about then if it was just related to their expertise. It's a 100% just wondering. It's actually not an increase is a new retainer for now and so it's not and this this is contemplated in their bond Council agree so we did not need this until the point that we got to the project we're formulating the stadium outlined another term sheets that that wasn't necessary at that point as we move forward to now all of these complicated issues down we certainly need it now. Now it just seems like the costs start coming in from different areas here related to this ok, thank you very much. One 2nd we have a motion second singer for the request to speak clerk please open the machine for vetting. Council members and your votes. Seeing a present council members a vote a clerk please telling announce the vote. MADAM Chair motion to approve agenda item j to pass a 6 to one we councilmember Hannah was voting no council members Driscoll fix Sanders Floyd gab regardless of months in a voting, yes, and COUNCILMAN Muhammad being absent. All right. Thank you thank styer all right next we will move on to our report items and we will go to item f we're joined by assistant city administrator Tom Green. Good morning, MADAM Chair and City Council I'm here this morning to speak to you about item f 4. The agreement with inner circle sports and over the last several weeks have had the opportunity to visit with each of you individually and talk about this. And it's the approval of the agreement with inner circle for the contract amount of one 0.2 4 8 million. And that proposed compensation is broken into 3 kind of. Segments that will get into in just a moment, but effectively 54% of that are 700,000 would come at the end when and the city issues tax exempt bonds to finance our contribution to the stadium project. 22% or 274,000 comes from the fy 24 general fund contingency that we established for gas Historic aspley Expenditures and 22% are 274,000 would come through an inner local agreement with Pinellas County. Before I get to kinda showing you the slides I want to spend just a moment on the background back in 2021. We did a request for proposal, a joint rfp process with Pinellas County to select a consultant to help us with negotiations with the major league baseball franchise to Tampa Bay rays. Inner circle sports was selected through that process and we have a council has approved a series of inner local agreements to share 5050 and that expense. Initially the Administer that agreement at some It into the agreement the county picked up the administration of that agreement and in the last couple of months. That concluded and this agreement now as we're moving into this final phase of development of the definitive documents it just makes more sense for the city to be administering that agreement at this point. We go through the slides. But just as a reminder during the development in the fy 24 budget we Administration recommended in Council approved a slightly larger contingency fund you know typical and atypical fiscal year we have somewhere between million in our contingency this year we knew we would have some expenses with gas historic gas plant project and so we. Increase that to 1791 thousand in the contingency line with the kind of understanding that a million dollars of that contingency would be available for historic gas plant. The expenditures. So just to summarize really quickly. This first there are 3 things that will Council has already proved to of items that will have an impact on or general fund contingency for the historic gas Namely the Fabian drinker. And Brian Miller now of agreements. And now we're looking for your approval on the inner circle. And during our individual discussions, MADAM Chair, us for a summary sheet of the expenditures to date on professional services related to this story gas plant. So this slide, although on the screen it looks kind of small. Summarizes over the last 3 fiscal years, the expenditures we've incurred for professional services related to the historic gas will point out that some of these expenditures reported here were under the former rfp process. And so the amount of that is a 141,250 of that total expense is associated with the previous rfp process and services that we. Utilized so $615,475 is associated with the current process and as you look through. The table. We start with our and in our local agreement with Pinellas County to complete our 3 components there you see inner circle amounts to 200 or a $152,250 of city resources expended and then we also amended that inner local agreement the county to provide for Vick to this llc to perform an economic impact the amount for the city was $222,475. The next category down reflects the expenditures with hr in a a real estate consultant and you see the total amount over the 3 fiscal years at 322,000. We have also engaged are. Our financial advisor public financial management pfm to do some bond capacity analysis. And that was kind $1000 and then you see the favorite drink there. Expensive to 50. So the grand total again a $756,725 over 3 fiscal years. For the item that for the inner local or inner circle agreement i wanted to kind of share in break down how these expenses will hit our. Our general fund and our contingency or the bond a deal when when and if those bonds are issued. So the the 2 items shaded in yellow and the 99,000 monthly compensation and the 7, 1, 1, 175,000 a term sheet. Those are amount to 274,000 we're asking Council to appropriate that 274,000 from the 1.7 9 1 million of general fund contingency leaving a balance of 1517 thousand. The other portion shaded in orange reflects the county's 50% share of the expenses. Associated with those 2 components of the agreement again it's 274,000. We're asking Council to appropriate that from the general fund balance in that the inner local agreement will provide those resources back to us so and a net 0 impact to our general fund operations. And then clearly the 700,000 component would