Village Community Development District No. 5

Good morning everyone. Good morning. The meeting of District five, uh, community developed, uh, district is now called to order. As we begin our meeting, we always start with a roll call of our officers and elected supervisors, Mr. Walter Martin. Here, Mr. Jerry Noll. Here. Jerry Felicis present. And Mark Schweiker, I believe, is on a very lovely vacation. So he is not with us today. He's excused. And I'm Gary Cato, your chair for the day, if you would please rise, uh, for the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag, followed by a brief moment of silence, I pledge into the Flag of The United States of America, and to the republic for which It stands, one nation under God, Indivisible, With liberty and justice for all. You may be seated and happy Easter. For those who have the, We have, uh, some of our usual visitors today. Nice to have you here again, Lee, Ken, so forth. And we have some guests today. So I'll run through how we operate. Uh, we're gonna be going through our agenda and as we go through our agenda, if there is an item that you wish to speak to, all you have to do is raise your hand, be recognized by the chair, you then proceed to the podium. Give us your name and your address, and then you have up to three minutes. Uh, we can give you a little longer if we have time to do that. Uh, and that's kind of how our procedure works. If you wish to talk about something that is not listed on the agenda, same thing. At the end of the meeting, we will have audience comment. We'll recognize you, proceed to the podium, same thing. Give us your name, give us your address, and then you can speak. So, welcome, nice to have you here today. I see we have some new guests with us. So good to be, have you here. Our first order of business is going to be, uh, law Enforcement quarterly updates, and I believe the Good Sergeant is here. Good morning. Welcome, maam. Good morning. My name's Sergeant Adam Dodge with the Sumter County Sheriff's Office. And I'm here to provide you with your quarterly law enforcement update. Uh, now, in, in past quarters, we've been unable to provide you with statistics on crashes and, uh, citations issued. I do have numbers to provide this quarter, however, I've been warned that, uh, if the numbers end up being off by 10 or so, don't be shocked at that. We're still in the process of inputting, uh, paper tickets that were issued. Uh, but these are, uh, fairly accurate numbers. If they're 10 higher or 10 lower in six months, please don't be upset with me. This is the best numbers our records division was able to provide. We also have received records, so, you know, from the public safety department, what they have on their records too. Oh, fantastic. Yours are most interesting. Go right ahead. Okay. Alright. So, uh, during the last quarter, Suffolk County Sheriff's Office responded to a total of 400 hundred 67 vehicle crashes, 36 golf cart crashes. And we issued, uh, here in the villages area a 653 a motor vehicle citation. So we are, uh, out and about on our roadways, trying to keep traffic, um, at a safe speed and, and, uh, flowing smoothly. And we talk about traffic and traffic flow. Um, I want to bring to your attention, some people aren't aware of the great working relationship that the Sheriff's Office enjoys with Community Watch. Mm-hmm. Uh, provided through the district, uh, the Sheriff's Office and Community Watch together, um, provided some training to community watch drivers and what's called Tims, which is Traffic Incident Management System. Uh, and that as well as some, uh, special markings on community watch vehicles, uh, give them the ability to assist us in managing traffic flow, whether it's, uh, for a rock, a blocked roadway or, uh, in the instance of a crash. And that's been a great asset for the Sheriff's Office, uh, to help keep that traffic moving smoothly and safely, allowing the deputies to conduct their investigation and then get that roadway open as soon as possible. Uh, our working relationship with Community Watch is, is really, um, it's, it's special because it's different than what you'd, uh, anticipate or expect or something you'd see in other areas. I wanna share with you, we had a recent golf cart theft at, uh, lake Sumter Landing. And typically when we, when a golf cart theft is reported at Lake Sumter Landing, we say, we'll, we'll help you find it, 'cause it's probably parked somewhere. And they just, uh, they're confused about where they are. Uh, however, this was a, a legitimate case where a golf cart was taken by another individual, uh, the detective in investigating that located security camera video in the area, and ultimately found, uh, gate camera video, uh, of this individual driving the golf cart. Um, so we were able to locate that individual, recover that golf cart, and I think that our, uh, great working relationship with Community Watch was, uh, a big factor and, and, uh, bringing that case to a resolution. So I just wanna make sure that, that you're aware of, of that. Uh, anytime we get a chance to, to share information from the Sheriff's Office, we'd like to give an update on kind of the things that are, that are happening. And one thing that we're seeing we continue to see are scams. Uh, and the scams happen everywhere I know, but I think that this area, um, we see more scams. Uh, likely your constituents come from a generation where they look people in the eye, they shook hands, and what they said they were gonna do is what they meant. And unfortunately, today, there's a lot of young people looking to take advantage of that trust. Um, I'd encourage you, if you get a phone call from the Sheriff's office that says you have a warrant for your arrest, please, no, it's a scam, right? Uh, you'll know you have a warrant for your arrest when we show up to arrest you, right? We're not gonna call and give you a heads up. Yeah, that would do it. Um, so if they say you've missed jury duty, uh, and there's a warrant for your arrest, but if you go get $3,000 in Home Depot gift cards, it is a scam, right? It's unfortunate that you have to, uh, assume that when someone calls you out of the blue, that they're likely not telling you the truth. Um, sharing information about scams, if you encounter something suspicious, don't be afraid to reach out to the Sheriff's office. We have a mobile app, and we'd ask that you, if you encounter a potential scam, please let us know. Uh, that information is sent to our white collar crimes detective vetted to verify it as a scam and then forward it out to all the users of our mobile app just to make them aware. Um, the more information, if you've heard of a scam, when you encounter it, you're likely to say, Hey, I heard about this. My, my neighbor down the street told me, uh, that there's something going on with toll violations, that it's a scam. And it is. But just that knowledge and, and having that information is gonna keep people from becoming a victim. So, gentlemen, that's all the information I have for you today. I'd be more than happy to answer any questions if you have any. I got one. Is that 653 car accidents? Um, I mean, taken violations, um, up or down? Uh, I believe that number is technically lower than, than quarters that we saw, uh, one year ago. It's not a, uh, uh, significant amount within probably 10%. Uh, we have seen quarters with significantly higher, uh, tickets issued. And one factor in this was because of our typical process for issuing citations was done almost completely digitally. Uh, and this required the deputies, they're issuing citations on printed paper, however, that, that the paper was then physically carried to our records division. And, and that that transmittal process has been an extra step in a hurdle. So we, we did see, uh, fewer citations, but when you look at the number, uh, just over that quarter, it's a, it's a significant number of golf. Golf, excuse me, uh, motor vehicle citations issued. Great question. Thank you. Okay. Uh, Sergeant, regarding the, uh, relationship between Community Watch and the, uh, Sheriff's Department, what is Community Watch's responsibility as far as moving the vehicles? So they just, uh, control traffic and get the traffic to go around. And then, then they, they are moved when you guys arrive. Community watch's role there is, they're assisting us in, and the training really came down to the best ways to place vehicles as a blocking, uh, to encourage the motorists to, uh, merge at a safe time and speed. Uh, and it, it's education for the, uh, driver there and helping us maintain that safe area. Um, their role wouldn't be to show up and say, Hey, you know, you guys have gotta get out of the road. Let's get you moved. They're gonna make sure the scene's as safe as possible prior to our arrival, and then while we're there so we can focus on getting that investigation conducted in the roadway back open. Nothing, nothing's more frustrating than, uh, going down the roadway and suddenly, oh, well no, everything's gotta go down to one lane because there's a crash here. So the quicker we can get that opened up and, and moving the better off, I think we all are. I have a question for you. Not related to traffic, just from my own curiosity. I've been doing this now for 18 years, serving as a supervisor. Uh, times are changing, obviously, uh, things get a little more heated, people get a little more angry. Uh, and one of the things that does happen, and I've had it happen myself, I don't know about the others, but I've had death threats already. I've had emails that have come that have been threatening. Uh, the last time I followed up on that was with, uh, captain Seamers. Still Captain, right? Yes, sir. Okay. Uh, and he had said at that point that any threats that are made to an elected official are, is a felony, and they could be punishable by three years imprisonment. Do you know about that? Is that true? We would, we would always encourage you that if you encounter, uh, whether a statement is, even if you believe a statement made be benign, it's always worth, uh, making the Sheriff's office aware so we can look into it, uh, evaluate what that comment or, or situation is. And also, it's great just to have documentation. It's good to know that, uh, uh, it's written down somewhere that if, if an instance occurs now you, we can show a, uh, pattern of behavior or, or repeated instances. We would always encourage, uh, the board as well as, um, any members of the public, if, if they receive messages that they believe are a threatening nature to contact the sheriff's office so we can look, look further into it and evaluate those. Okay. Great question. Thank you. It's a shame it happens, but we are in an environment that's quite different than it was 15 years ago, 20 years ago. Okay. Thank you for that. Any other questions for law enforcement? Okay. Thank you, sir. Thank you, gentlemen. Much appreciated. New business. Uh, everyone has received a copy of the minutes from our last meeting. I assume we've had time to read it for the audience's benefit. If you see us moving quickly, it's not that we don't read these things here, we get them about a week in advance so we have time to read, study, and be prepared for our meeting. So in reviewing the minutes, anything that you wish to change, modify, amend. Okay. Could I have a motion to accept the minutes? So moved. Second. Second. It's been moved and seconded, except the minutes from our prior meeting. All those in favor signify by saying aye a. Aye. Opposed? So moved. Thank you. Next and not the least, Mr. Lesi, you attended our recent PAC meeting. Uh, can you give a brief report on that, please? Sure. I'll make it brief. Yeah. There were a couple items on the consent agenda. There was one for, uh, approval of landscape and irrigation maintenance with SPA landscape for the new areas for six, uh, for six month period for an increase of $13,111 and 62 cents. And that would be forwarded to the S-L-C-D-D. Uh, there was a second one for sole source designation for USGA green section services for, uh, the provision of ed golf golf course consulting services that will also be presented through the F-L-C-D-E board. And thirdly, there was a recommendation, again to present it to the board. Could You talk to Mike directly? Sorry to hear you. Excuse me. Talking to Mike Directly. I'm not going into the mic. No. Uh, third one, executive cost, uh, aggregate golf cart products for bulk aggregate golf on an as needed basis for an amount not to exceed 500,000. And all three are going to be presented to the, uh, F-L-C-D-D. And lastly, uh, yours truly have made a request to the other districts for the, uh, approval of RPMs, or better known as raised pavement markets on multimodal paths. We wanted to have some consistency throughout all of the villages and see if they were interested in pa in, in, in having it approved throughout the villages. Uh, there were some districts that were in favor and there were obviously some districts that were not in favor of it. And it was agreed that we would take it back to our respective districts, each of us, and bring it up for, uh, for approval at each district. And that's kind of how that ending. Correct. That concludes my remarks. Okay. Just for the audience benefit, the reflective pavement markers, it's been going on for a while. Uh, information was sent, I sent it personally to the chairman of each of the respective districts requesting that they discuss it with their boards. Uh, and at that time, we would come together at the PAC meeting and make a decision one way or the other if they're in favor. There are nine districts that are involved in this five through 13. In order to get it passed and get it paid out of project wide advisory funds through the Sumter Landing Development, uh, district, we needed to have five out of nine votes in favor. Uh, during that meeting, I believe, well, district five made the motion, so obviously we're greatly in favor of it. Uh, district six believe, uh, uh, tweet Coleman said that they were in favor and District 12 was definitely in favor. All of their board voted for it, but that was three. We could not get the other two votes. Uh, I'm not gonna go into great detail, but I think some probably didn't have sufficient time or get the information or read it. Uh, 'cause a lot of the questions that came out were questions that were already addressed and answered in writing to them. Uh, we did our best shot to try and get 'em to go along, but in the end, uh, they would not make a decision one way or the other. But it was requested that a study, an engineering study be done. Who's our engineers again, that we always go to. Do you recall The previous report was Kimley Horn. Kimley Horn. Yeah. I'm, I'm not certain, I'd have to defer to Mr. Harris, which, which firm will use for this study. But anyway, rather than voting on it, making a decision at this meeting, it was decided to commission an engineering study, uh, regarding the reflective pavement markers, the effectiveness and so forth. Uh, personal opinion, not the opinion of this board. I think it's 3000 to $5,000. That's of no great value as far as I'm concerned. It's kinda like throwing money down a rat hole. Bottom line is, it would be like commissioning to say, can you see better during the daytime than you can at night? And would reflect a marker after you see a little better at night. I don't need an engine engine engineering study to tell me that. Yeah, you could see a lot better with reflective markers at night and you could probably protect a lot of our residents, which is the main objective of this board is to represent our residents in District five. Uh, likewise their health and safety is a matter of always foremost concern, uh, by the board of Supervisors. So that's kind of how it went. Uh, and that pretty much ended the meeting. Am I correct, Jerry? You wanna add To that? Yeah. In fact, not only is it the pavement marker help you see where, where it's really dark. There's so many gob cuts now with such bright headlights that you can't look straight ahead. You gotta, you gotta look away. And that's where the pavement markers will really help also, because if, when you look away, you can look down at the pavement marker so you don't go crashing into the dirt. Right? So it, it's a really, a very, very, uh, important measure to have more safety on those golf cart pants. I would agree. I know there's been comments about striping. I saw something in the paper recently on that, I believe a letter to the editor. Uh, when I saw that I went back, 'cause I've been here a long time, and I pulled files from 2015 July when people were lined up and protesting striping and so on and so forth. Uh, at that time we had 45 miles in golf cart paths we were talking about. And the cost back then in 2015 was over $300,000. I would venture a guess today that we're probably talking twice, if not triple that to do reflective striping down the sidelines or down the middle of the cart cart paths. We also have twice that now as far as cart paths. It's not 45, it's over 80,000, I'm sorry, 80,000, 80 miles in golf cart paths. So doing reflective markers for district five, which is our concern would be a cost somewhere between 12 to $13,000. It's a minuscule amount to provide an extra level of safety. And if anybody has any questions, uh, this will come up again under, um, further business. Uh, and at that time we'll discuss a motion so that this district can move forward. But we'll answer any questions if the audience has at this point, if they want to make any comments. Uh, Mr. Chairman, I have a Yes, sir. It's my understanding based upon what was just said here, that, uh, project wide has, is commissioning kimley horn to, uh, do a review of the previous engineering study and to make any updates. Mm-hmm. Uh, referring to things like the, uh, manual uniform traffic control devices that governs all of these markings be on mm-hmm. Roads and multimodal paths. Um, it's not a complete study though. It's just a, it's a review of the existing study and an update based upon any current changes that have been made between the time of the original study and now Yeah. We did install 'em previously. I know. Went through that. All Right. And so, uh, it's my suggestion that we wait for that study. Well, um, one of the reasons professional engineers look at this and, and they make recommendations based upon ordinances and codes and, uh, national laws and requirements. It, it, it benefits us as, as a district because we're, we're then relying on fact and law. And so there's a, there's a certain protection in our decision making process. Mm-hmm. And, and I suspect that this update isn't gonna take all that long. And since we've been going on this for a few years, another month or two, I think would be prudent on our part to wait for that study to, to come out. We can look at it and then make any decisions we've gotta make. Because if the study comes out and suggests that it should be done, there may be a change in the PA position in which, in which case they would then take it. And if they get the five votes or more mm-hmm. Then they would do the whole thing. I understand that. So, Okay. The, the only question I would have is, we did a study, if you recall before, and I know Jerry, you and I were actively involved in that. Mm-hmm. Uh, when we put the markers down on the islands and the sharp curves and so forth. Yep. I would assume, and if I'm wrong, tell me that putting reflective markers down the middle at this point would not be any different as far as regulations and allowances and so forth than we did before. So it, to me, it kind of looked like a repeat of what we've already gone through. It, it may be, I don't know, I, I'm not up to date on the m ut CDs. Um, but uh, they are and Right. And I just think anytime that you get a professional engineering report put in place, that that says what it says, you've got a certain level of protection that that strengthens your decision making process. We're not gonna vote on it until we get that report. Yeah. At the pwac level, no. And here as well. Oh, okay. I misunderstood. I thought we were gonna vote on it today. Well, it's gonna come up today asking the board what they want to do, if they want to proceed. And I was gonna make that motion has come up. Okay. I didn't realize that. Asking the board if they wanna wait for the study. And, and again, I don't put that much emphasis on the study. Uh, from what I saw, it was, it's a good reason to allow people to make a decision. 'cause now they've got an engineering report they can fall back on. Uh, as far as we're concerned, I would like to think that our board is definitely in favor and I think we are in providing this extra level of protection regardless of what the report says. So to wait another two or three months to do that. And if I'm wrong, vote me down. But I, you know, I would just as soon proceed and get it done. We did talk in the letter we sent out about a pilot program and the District five would serve as that pilot program. I think from that standpoint, it might be a good thing to do. 'cause once we do it, and it's in, I can assure you, we're gonna get feedback from our residents whether they like it or they don't. And I can tell you, just as a result of the last week's meeting, I've had over 100 emails and phone calls from people who have said, this is wonderful. Finally, we have disenfranchised so many of our elderly residents from a join the same privilege as we do, and going down to the squares where they've written back and said, I can drive there during daylight hours, but I can't go 'cause I have to drive home when it's at night and I have macular degeneration, or my eyesight isn't what it used to be. Now, I've also had the assorted number of nutcases right in and say, well, too bad if you're that old stay home. You shouldn't go to the square. I mean, just ridiculous responses coming out. And we've all seen that. But I think in this case, for the sake of $12,000 to wait for a study and wait another three months to do what we know is the right thing to do, I don't agree with that. I think we should move forward with it. I'll Make a motion to instill RPMs or reflective payment. Mark is, uh, center line throughout, uh, uh, district five. And again, we're talking a cost between 12 to 13,000. We have a budget that's in the hundreds of millions, so I don't see that as any obstacle. Okay. So you have a motion on the floor to do that? Yes. Is there a second to that motion? I second that, Mr. Chairman. Okay. It's been moved and seconded to proceed with pavement markers, uh, and serve as a prior study. And Okay. We have an audience comment on, on this before we vote. Yes, sir. Please come up. Give us your name and your address please. I need to touch it to find it. Where is it? It's right in front of you. There you go. I'm sorry. Okay. Thank you, chairman Cato. Uh, my name is John Cornel. I live at 2385 D Drive in the village of Antrim Dells. And no, that's not in your district, but this issue does affect all of us in the villages, and I appreciate the opportunity to speak for just a couple minutes on this. Um, I, I, I guess I'm stunned to hear what I just heard this morning that this is a cost of 12 to $13,000 and that there's any debate whatsoever about it. I spoke to one of my commissioners yesterday about this to learn where our district sits on this position. And it was confirmed what Chairman Cato said that they're not in favor of it yet. Some of the thing reasons I heard were, um, didn't like the, uh, it wouldn't be attractive enough if each district didn't have it. And it was all I could do to restrain myself from not saying what I really thought about attractiveness when it comes to a safety issue. And then he said, it's a very expensive project. And I said, well, how expensive the answer was, well, we're not really sure yet. Now I want to hear 12 or $13,000. It's, it borders on ridiculousness that this is even an issue. I'm not a big acronym guy, but PA if they don't see the value in this, then something needs to be done about it. And I'm willing to do whatever I can to voice my opinion on this. I I'm a blind guy, why am I talking about driving? Well, I don't drive anymore. Thankfully, I did until my 40th birthday 25 years ago. I drove in the Chicago suburban area a lot with compromised vision. I had a career with the foundation fighting blindness, which raises money for medical research to cure blindness, including macular degeneration. I know a little bit about the aging population, I know a little bit about the vision loss community. And we have in this country over 10 million people with age-related macular degeneration, which is the leading cause of vision loss in people over age 55. Last time I heard this was a 55 and over community that touts itself as the country's most active and friendly 55 and over community and living here three years. I totally agree with that. Why don't we add to it the safest 55 and over community in the country. We don't need a study to tell us that you see better at night with lights. It's ridiculous. You guys know that I appreciate more than you know, the desire to protect yourself from legal liability and criticism. But I'm not gonna get political common sense. You know, this intuitively that this is the right thing to do. The villages has promoted itself as a golf cart friendly. CI heard that you want gimme 30 more seconds. A golf cart friendly community. It is the major mode of transportation in this community. The villages does a ton of things, right, but when it made the decision to combine golf carts, pedestrians, and bicyclists on one path, that was horrific decision from a safety standpoint. It's a heavy lift to get that changed. But you can do little things, baby steps to make it better. And these reflectors are a no-brainer. I urge you to take action to vote yes on this today. I vote I encourage you to do it unanimously to send a message to the rest of the district, uh, commissioners that this is the right thing to do, the primary duty of government. And that's what you are as underappreciated and underpaid and undervalued as you are, is to protect the safety of your residents. Thank you for your time. Thank you. John. If I may you raise the question, the cost Your district 10, I believe, correct? That's correct. Okay. I think you represent Steve Bova. He's a good man. Um, I Didn't give any names, but in particular No, that's okay. They're all good people, Steve. Well, and he's an honorable man. Unfortunately, you couldn't be there at the meeting. So you weren't represented at the Pwac meeting when we discussed this. Your cost involved on that was some right around $23,200 for your District. Okay. Let's not heat the pools to 84 degrees. Let's, uh, there's so many other ways that you can go through and find $23,000. You guys know that? Of course. Okay. Thank you So much. Thank you very much. Gentlemen. We have a motion on the floor to approve, uh, that we install these things as quickly as we possibly can within reasonable timeframe. Um, it's been moved and seconded. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Those opposed? Aye. Okay. Uh, and my opposition is, I would like to wait for PA to make their decision. Okay. Thank you. It is best. We have three in favor. One opposed? I ask chairman. Sure. Just for clarification. Uh, after the study, did this go back to PA? Yeah. And then the process will start over again. But in the meantime, we've already approved, uh, for District five to proceed regardless of whether or not it's PA approved it. Correct. Very good. Yeah. The, the main difference, just so we're clear, is I don't want to have any illusions about this. Uh, going to PA and getting approval from PA, they then can take it forward to the Sumter Landing Development District and that would be paid out of their funds. However we supply those funds to them. Yes. Yeah. So it's our money no matter what. And that was clear in the last meeting, whether we take it out of what we contributed previously or whether we take it and budget for it this year, again, we're talking $12,000. What value is safety? Mm-hmm. Okay. $12,000 as far as I'm concerned. Well, I pay that myself just to make sure we got it done. I really would. I think it's that important. No, I, I concur, Mr. Chairman, I just want to clarification. It does go back to PA in the meantime. It, as far as I'm concerned, it's moot because we have approved it. Yes, we have. Okay. Yeah, the reason bringing it to PA was we were hoping for uniformity throughout all of these districts. I, I'd like to think no matter what, that we probably would've uniformity anyway. And using reflective markers to do striping at this point, as I mentioned, would be a ridiculous amount of money. Uh, very, very expensive. Yeah. If it was 300,000 back in 2015, I guess we'd be close to 800,000 by now with the cost going up and so forth. And again, it Alright. Cliff Plus I think striping does, makes it look like a freeway or a Disney ride. Cliff Weiner, I live in d on in the village of Piedmont. Uh, I am the chairman of multi multimodal Path Discussion group and the chairman of District four, Gary, that, that 2015 study was really, really high when District four, who has striping, striped our path. And we just redid it, I believe two years ago, I believe maybe three. It was 20 some hundred dollars. I don't know where that $300,000 mark came from in that study, but I disagreed with it since the study came out. Yeah, it came out July, 2015. But I'll tell you that the Multi Motor Path discussion group is not in favor of striping or I am not at any rate. And when our contract, or we need to retrip in District four, and I brought it up in meetings before, we are gonna look at putting in our PMs. We do have RPMs on part of our path that goes from first responders to solely our villas where there isn't a light within 500 feet. So it's pitch dark. Mm-hmm. And these RPMs make all the difference in the world driving on that path. And if you wanna see it, drive it after nine o'clock at night and you'll see how you can drive on a path with no light whatsoever. I just want to say that thank you guys for what you're doing because that's the first step in a project that I've been trying to do for the last four years. Thank you. You might get a kick outta this. I'm quoting from an article I believe meta put out on July of 2015. And it says, once villagers learned that and they believed that it was $300,000 decision to put down thermoplastic striping, which is a highly reflective, um, on both sides of the multimodal pads. Supervisors were inundated with the wrath of the silent majority, which found its voice thanks to the sticker shock and people lined up. In fact, the representative Steve Bova from 10 is standing in line as is Paul Farone, several others. Uh, and these are some very well known people and very smart individuals. So that's kind of where I got that from. I didn't pull that outta the air. Okay. We are done with that. Moving on, uh, we are into old business status report. Yes. Good morning board. Morning. Um, there's two items on old business. The first is to track your deed compliance complaints for a one year period. So we will bring that back in November. Um, just as information though, staff did put together the, um, mid-year stats that are included for informational purposes on the agenda. Um, the next item which has been addressed was the consideration to install center line reflective, um, pavement markers. Um, but given the direction from the board, um, staff will proceed with issuing a purchase order to the vendor to get that initiated. Thank you. Any questions? Okay. Well, obviously four B is already taken care of. We've had a motion passed to that effect. Uh, the following items in item five A through E are informational items only. We have provided, we've been provided as individual supervisors with that information to review. Uh, this does not this require a motion for all of them to be passed or no, No motion necessary. No motion necessary. Everybody had a chance to read those items. Any questions regarding those? Okay, hearing none, uh, quick meeting, uh, district manager's report. Yes. The first item is the 2024 annual report. Um, so staff did email that out to all supervisors. Um, we hope you've had an opportunity to take a look at it. Um, it highlights the activities of all of the individual boards and all of the departments in the district. Um, and everything that we've accomplished with the, the support of all of the boards, um, we will get that published hard copy. Um, we just wanted to ensure that there were no last minute, um, edit or catches once we distributed to the larger group. Um, but we'll be getting the hard copies printed. We've had this for a while. Uh, I know mm-hmm. I'm quite sure you've all read the whole thing all the way through. Uh, it's an outstanding report. We should really be proud of what we're doing here. And your staff, uh, to put this together really deserves kudos for doing that because it's very, very well done. Thank you. And it's available to all our residents, correct? Yes, online. It's available on the website, yes. Thank you. I'll relay that. It was, um, there was significant input from all departments. Thank seem to be working very, very well with all departments. And I know our, our directors now they're heading up. These departments are putting a lot of time and a lot of effort in to make sure we do things right. So thank you to all of you sitting at the table. Appreciate it. Thank you. And the next item is the CCO update. Mm-hmm. So on Wednesday we did email out, um, the update with two attachments, or excuse me, the attachment that we received from cco, um, regarding your increase for this coming October 1st, 2025. So if you recall when you received the notices, um, previously that had the estimated pole rental increases that did not include your electricity expenses, it was strictly just the, the pole rental fee. Right. Um, the letter that was sent to you includes a combined total of the pole rental fee as well as your electricity expenses. So if you try and compare the numbers, they're not going to tie together Exactly. Um, but that reflects what your actual expenses will be. Beginning October 1st, 2025. Considering that you were only paying 50% of your increase this year and it was projected to pay the second portion this coming year. Um, there were a few items, um, that were previously communicated that CECO took into consideration to adjust those rates. Um, excuse me, which resulted in overall reduction to all districts from the original proposed amount. Um, but they were adjusting their, um, repair times from 24 hours to seven to 30 days, which they indicated was industry standard. Um, they were adjusting their light rovers that were out in the community, um, that they would rely on community watch. You do have the benefit of community watch submitting a lot of light outages in the community and then residents can submit them online as well. Um, and also how they replace their poles, um, more on an as needed basis rather than looking at a, you know, a mass turnover of pole replacement. Um, so all that being said, the document that you have is what will be reflected in your proposed budget. Mm-hmm. Um, and also at the bottom is the information for the teams meeting that they committed to. Right. Um, so there's the login information for any supervisors to join the teams meeting. Um, it's May 2nd at 3:00 PM Okay. Um, and the credentials are included on the letter. What would you say the, now obviously it's a reduction from what they were asking for previously. Uh, what is the amount of reduction if they come back with what are we actually saving from what they initially wanted? Do you know that at this point? So that's what we're, we are reviewing that because again, they combined both all of the pole rental fees, fees a little, and the electricity. Um, so we can compare your budget, but that's going to be different than the notices for trying to identify the differences in the poll rental specifically. Okay. Um, but we, we can get that information out to you. Also, just to kind of add to it, my understanding in talking with their chairman of the board, uh, the lights that are gonna be put in right now we have quartz lamps that are in our lights. Uh, you can't buy those anymore. You can't replace those. They're just not available. So they're transferring over to the bright white LEDs. That's what they'll be installing. That will be a vast improvement in the amount of light that we currently have out there. Which also not to beat the horse to death can reflect on how much brighter it could be for our paths when you're driving at night. That may add to that and make it even a little better. So we're looking forward to that too. But we still don't have the final breakdown on numbers. And that will be interesting once you guys calculate that to see how much we're really reduced. Yes. Because in one invoice, you know, it reflects a 9% change. Right. But it was 4,000 467 60, um, going to 4,000 876 40, which is still lower right. Than what was originally projected. But again, it's your cumulative code. It trust in a different way though. Yes. Okay. So right, right now it's a little smoke and mirrors. We need to find out what it really Is. Right. And then your, your larger invoice, um, going from 4 95, um, four 95,000, $38 and 55 cents to 539,000 984 65. Um, we did, uh, request additional detail at this point though. Um, we don't have and are not sure that we're going to get the additional detail from cco. So we're working internally to mm-hmm. To do the calculations. Okay. Uh, a question in line with that. I know that there was, uh, an exploratory project regarding solar lighting that was conducted by another district. Has that come to fruition? Do they know whether that's feasible or within cost? So District seven held their meeting yesterday and that, uh, request for proposal was discussed. Essentially they had five submissions, three were deemed non-responsive. Um, they did not include bid bonds. Um, so they were not evaluated by the selection committee. Two were, um, the board elected to reject all submissions and um, include additional detail in the scope about the aesthetics of the community and the quality and appearance of the existing pole types that they have. Um, so we're going to revise that scope and reissue the RFP. It goes out for bid again then? Yes, it's going Out for bid again, just curious. Okay. Any questions regarding the cco? Yes sir. Just a comment. Were you surprised at the reduction, the price reduction? I'm sure there is one not going into specific, uh, rental versus the, uh, electrical fee. Yeah, I was surprised when I thought that, that there was gonna be an overall reduction that we not be responsible for the 50% for this coming fiscal year. Correct. You still Have what? You still have a minimal, it would be, you still have a minimal increase over your current portion that you're paying, but you're correct. You're not going to pay the 50%, the full, the second half of your allotment. But again, I was saying were you was staff surprised at that reduction or you anticipated it? I don't know that we anticipated it, but I think that CCO heard feedback from all of the boards and how the increase was received. Not well. Yes, correct. It was not received well. Okay. Good. Any questions? Any further questions? Yeah. I believe SL got a sizable grant as well that I think may have impacted somewhat on their costs. Several million. It saved them. Yeah. Several million dollars. Yeah. Good. Okay. Now as far as services, uh, response time and so forth, that will change also. Correct? Correct. Didn't they They modify some of those? Yes. So the previous communication that you received outlined the areas that they were going to adjust and that was one of them that the, It's not gonna be a six hour response time anymore like we used to have. Correct. They're moving to the seven to 30 day time period. Okay. Okay. Good. Moving on. District council reports. Welcome. Yes sir. Just one report looking at your, uh, public hearing case update list. There is one property, you only have three properties on there, so you're doing pretty good. The first one, we filed a lawsuit on that one and already have a judgment lien certificate filed the State of Florida and a lien recorded in the public record. So that one is not much more we can do with the second one on Sander Link Street, though I'm kind of monitoring that one. Uh, community standards did send me an email with some information on it. It looks like it might be going through foreclosure. Uh, I'm gonna keep an eye on it, see what happens with that. But that might be one you want to proceed with, um, at some point in time. 'cause the fines are over $20,000 on that one. Yeah, we Talked about the last meeting. Yeah, so for now I'm kind of monitoring it because the foreclosure that, uh, was posted on the property was sort of a federal type foreclosure. So, um, something a little different. So I'll keep an eye on it and, um, if the property owners are still there or if it's still owned by the same individuals, then this again might be one we wanna proceed with. Federal lie usually has something to do with a law enforcement. Well this one, uh, cited to an FHA, um, type deal. So I have to look into that a little further. Okay. Okay. Questions? Okay. Any audience comments? Now's your chance about that or in general? In general. Yes sir. Lee Gilpen 2155 Darlington Drive. I have been floating question around about why so few people attend these meetings, whether it be District five only or all of 'em. And it appears it's all of the districts except when there's a complaint and then they come in and crosses. But I'm sitting here thinking that I'm probably not the only one that can't hear what is said at these meetings. Uh, these microphones that you use, and I have microphone fright myself bad enough that, uh, have trouble speaking in, in public. But when I can't remember to speak into the microphone, I'm wasting my time. And it's a waste of time to come to these meetings when the people can't understand what you folks are saying to once amongst yourself. This spacing goes back to the, to the pandemic when it was these meetings were held in, uh, like something landing. You were sitting side by side and we could hear what you said. 'cause we were then feet above you. This atmosphere here, this environment here, uh, in addition to things being posted on that screen, which I just happened to look at, it's impossible for us to see that it needs to be where it can be seen or be big enough. If it's important enough for it to be put on the screen, the the audience should be able to see it as well as you folks. And getting back to these studies, it doesn't take a $10,000 study to find somebody that can find microphones that work. Like you see on the news, people on tv, they got a little tiny thing about the big as a, a peanut on their, on their clothing. And you can hear every word they say. But Here, if you look the other way, You're not heard. You gotta speak right into these Tencent store microphones. And I know they're not Tencent store microphones. No. Something should be done to make the audience more likely to come and participate, be aware of what is going on. This is a unique type of government that, uh, I'm not familiar with. I came from Montgomery County, Maryland where there was a little clique that did it over dinner and then they came in and made believe that they were having a public meeting about, uh, such and such a matter. This is an ideal situation. And I think you would have a lot more, not only this group, a lot more people would attend their local district's boards of supervisors. And just one more thing on the, uh, on the reflective monitors, I was not exactly quoted on the minutes correctly. I was in hopes that you would go about that decision based on the leadership. The District five has shown, going back to the anonymous complaints issue, you set an example there. And I think that is floating around through all of the other residential districts too. And I believe if you, when you do go ahead with these reflectors, you're gonna be setting a, a visible example of why the others should come aboard. Thanks. Thank you. I can't argue your comments on the microphones. I agree. I sat in the meeting the other day, the, the PA meeting the other day. Uh, I noticed pretty much anybody that talked the mic was over here so you really couldn't hear 'em. Yeah. And uh, yeah, that's a problem. It is hard to get people to talk into these microphones directly unless they put it right in front of their mouth. So most of you don't, I wouldn't either. We can take, we can take a look at that. Not a problem. Agree. Can we explore that? We do have an upgraded sound system and that is what part of this system is, and the fact that we tied into the rec center, I think one, one of the, but you have to Talk into this. Correct. One of the reminders that, that we will, um, send out to board members before and after the committee meeting is that these are wireless and one of the reasons why we went with wireless is that you can move it and have it Right. I know. Right in front of you. So the question is, will they, and do they, and then so far that's not exactly working. We'll remind the groups to speak directly into the microphones. Okay. Thank you Lee. Appreciate it. Any other comments from the audience? Okay, we will move on. Supervisors. Mr. Fei? No comment. Any comments Mr. Noll? Yes. Um, this one's for Mike Harris and, uh, I received a couple of phone calls from residents, uh, expressing concern about the, uh, the basin on the, uh, Arnold Palmer Golf course. The basin is located on the north side of Belvere, just west of Buena Vista at the, uh, Bonnie Brook gate. That, that, that, uh, basin is dry and, and we understand it. It's been a drought condition and, but apparently there's a lot of debris, trash, garbage and things of that nature that are starting to accumulate in there. And they said that they had made some phone calls and they were waiting for something to happen there. And, uh, if you could take a look at that, I'd appreciate it and I will let these residents know that we're on it. Thank you. Okay. Thanks Jerry. Mr. Martin? No comments, Mr. Chairman. Okay. And I have nothing further. I think we covered everything in the meeting. So at this point we'd entertain a motion to adjourn. So moved. Second, Second, second. We Are hereby adjourned. Thank you.