Local Planning Agency

>> CHAIR: >> CHAIR: HE >> CHAIR: HE GOOD >> CHAIR: HE GOOD MORNING >> CHAIR: HE GOOD MORNING EVERYONE >> CHAIR: HE GOOD MORNING EVERYONE AND >> CHAIR: HE GOOD MORNING EVERYONE AND WELCOME, >> CHAIR: HE GOOD MORNING EVERYONE AND WELCOME, THE EVERYONE AND WELCOME, THE SEPTEMBER 2025 MEETING OF THE SEPTEMBER 2025 MEETING OF THE CITY OF DUNEDIN WILL NOW COME TO CITY OF DUNEDIN WILL NOW COME TO ORDER. ORDER. THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY IS AN THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY IS AN ADVISORY BOARD OF CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD OF CITIZENS APPOINTED BY THE CITY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. COMMISSION. THIS BOARD IS COMPRISED OF THIS BOARD IS COMPRISED OF VOLUNTEERS WHO REPRESENT THE VOLUNTEERS WHO REPRESENT THE THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS OF THE THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY. THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S MEET THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S MEET SOMETHING TO MAKE SOMETHING TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COMMISSION REGARDING EACH ITEM COMMISSION REGARDING EACH ITEM ON THE AGENDA. ON THE AGENDA. EXCEPT FOR ITEM 1C, TONIGHT'S EXCEPT FOR ITEM 1C, TONIGHT'S FORMAT WILL BE AS FOLLOWS: I FORMAT WILL BE AS FOLLOWS: I WILL INTRODUCE EACH ITEM ON THE WILL INTRODUCE EACH ITEM ON THE AGENDA, AFTERWARDS THE CITY AGENDA, AFTERWARDS THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE WILL PRESENT REPRESENTATIVE WILL PRESENT INFORMATION ABOUT IT. INFORMATION ABOUT IT. THEREAFTER THE MEMBERS OF THE THEREAFTER THE MEMBERS OF THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY WILL HAVE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE. OF THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE. FINALLY, ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC FINALLY, ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC MAY COME FORWARD. MAY COME FORWARD. THOSE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO THOSE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO PROVIDE COMMENTS WILL NEED TO PROVIDE COMMENTS WILL NEED TO PLEASE APPROACH THE LECTERN, PLEASE APPROACH THE LECTERN, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND THEN UTILIZE THE MICROPHONE AT THEN UTILIZE THE MICROPHONE AT THE LECTERN IN ORDER FOR THEIR THE LECTERN IN ORDER FOR THEIR COMMENTS TO BE RECORDED. COMMENTS TO BE RECORDED. INDIVIDUAL PUBLIC SPEAKERS WILL INDIVIDUAL PUBLIC SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES OF BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES OF SPEAKING TIME AND WE KINDLY SPEAKING TIME AND WE KINDLY REQUEST THAT SPEAKERS ARE REQUEST THAT SPEAKERS ARE RESPECTFUL OF THE COUNTDOWN RESPECTFUL OF THE COUNTDOWN CLOCK. CLOCK. CITIZENS SPEAKING ON AN AGENDA CITIZENS SPEAKING ON AN AGENDA ITEM OR DURING CITIZEN COMMENT ITEM OR DURING CITIZEN COMMENT WILL NOT ENGAGE IN LOUD, WILL NOT ENGAGE IN LOUD, BOISTEROUS OR DISRUPTIVE BOISTEROUS OR DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT. CONDUCT. PLEASE DON'T DO THAT. PLEASE DON'T DO THAT. ANY SPEAKER THAT HAS CONTINUED ANY SPEAKER THAT HAS CONTINUED INAPPROPRIATE OR IRRELEVANT INAPPROPRIATE OR IRRELEVANT COMMENTS WILL BE REQUESTED TO COMMENTS WILL BE REQUESTED TO RELINQUISH THE PODIUM BY THE RELINQUISH THE PODIUM BY THE CHAIR. CHAIR. THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO APPROVE THE JULY 9th, 2025 TO APPROVE THE JULY 9th, 2025 LPA MINUTES. LPA MINUTES. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS, ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS, ADDICTIONS OR DELETIONS TO BE ADDICTIONS OR DELETIONS TO BE MADE? MADE? DOESN'T LOOK LIKE. DOESN'T LOOK LIKE. HEARING NONE, DO I HEAR A MOTION HEARING NONE, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED? SUBMITTED? >> SO MOVED. >> SO MOVED. >> SO MOVED. >> >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> >> SECOND. >> CHAIR: >> SECOND. >> CHAIR: IT >> SECOND. >> CHAIR: IT HAS >> SECOND. >> CHAIR: IT HAS BEEN >> SECOND. >> CHAIR: IT HAS BEEN MOVED >> SECOND. >> CHAIR: IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND >> CHAIR: IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND >> CHAIR: IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED >> CHAIR: IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO >> CHAIR: IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO ACCEPT >> CHAIR: IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO ACCEPT THE >> CHAIR: IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES SECONDED TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. AS SUBMITTED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. SAYING AYE. [ CHORUS OF AYES ] [ CHORUS OF AYES ] >> CHAIR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> CHAIR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> CHAIR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS >> CHAIR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS SAYS >> CHAIR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS SAYS REQUESTING >> CHAIR: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS SAYS REQUESTING PUBLIC THIS SAYS REQUESTING PUBLIC INPUT" ON THIS? INPUT" ON THIS? >> YES, SIR. >> YES, SIR. >> YES, SIR. ANY >> YES, SIR. ANY TIME >> YES, SIR. ANY TIME YOU >> YES, SIR. ANY TIME YOU VOTE >> YES, SIR. ANY TIME YOU VOTE ON >> YES, SIR. ANY TIME YOU VOTE ON AN >> YES, SIR. ANY TIME YOU VOTE ON AN ITEM. ANY TIME YOU VOTE ON AN ITEM. >> CHAIR: OKAY. >> CHAIR: OKAY. >> CHAIR: OKAY. IS >> CHAIR: OKAY. IS THERE >> CHAIR: OKAY. IS THERE ANY >> CHAIR: OKAY. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC >> CHAIR: OKAY. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC INPUT >> CHAIR: OKAY. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC INPUT ABOUT IS THERE ANY PUBLIC INPUT ABOUT OUR MINUTES? OUR MINUTES? IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE ARE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE ARE ANY SO WE'RE CLOSING PUBLIC ANY SO WE'RE CLOSING PUBLIC INPUT. INPUT. THAT'S NEW, ISN'T IT? THAT'S NEW, ISN'T IT? NO? NO? I DON'T REMEMBER DOING THAT I DON'T REMEMBER DOING THAT BEFORE. BEFORE. ALRIGHT, ORDINANCE 25-07, ALRIGHT, ORDINANCE 25-07, AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY'S AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY'S FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT REGULATIO FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT REGU REGULATIONS. REGULATIONS. >> [ OFF MIC ] >> [ OFF MIC ] >> [ OFF MIC ] >> >> [ OFF MIC ] >> GOOD >> [ OFF MIC ] >> GOOD EVENING, >> [ OFF MIC ] >> GOOD EVENING, JOSEPH >> [ OFF MIC ] >> GOOD EVENING, JOSEPH DiPASQUA >> GOOD EVENING, JOSEPH DiPASQUA >> GOOD EVENING, JOSEPH DiPASQUA ON >> GOOD EVENING, JOSEPH DiPASQUA ON BEHALF >> GOOD EVENING, JOSEPH DiPASQUA ON BEHALF OF >> GOOD EVENING, JOSEPH DiPASQUA ON BEHALF OF COMMUNITY ON BEHALF OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, AND SO WHAT I HAVE DEVELOPMENT, AND SO WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT IS JUST A BRIEF FOR YOU TONIGHT IS JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF OUR ORDINANCE 25-07. OVERVIEW OF OUR ORDINANCE 25-07. THIS IS AMENDMENTS TO OUR THIS IS AMENDMENTS TO OUR FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT REGULATIONS. REGULATIONS. ESSENTIALLY YOU MAY OR MAY NOT ESSENTIALLY YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, BUT IN JULY, A NEW LAW WAS KNOW, BUT IN JULY, A NEW LAW WAS ENACTED AND CHAPTER 25-190 LAWS ENACTED AND CHAPTER 25-190 LAWS OF FLORIDA THAT BECAME EFFECTIVE OF FLORIDA THAT BECAME EFFECTIVE JULY 1st. JULY 1st. WHAT ESSENTIALLY IT DOES IS IT WHAT ESSENTIALLY IT DOES IS IT REQUIRES BY STATE LAW THAT THE REQUIRES BY STATE LAW THAT THE CITIES, ANY CITY OR COUNTY, CITIES, ANY CITY OR COUNTY, MUNICIPALITIES CAN NO LONGER MUNICIPALITIES CAN NO LONGER HAVE A CUMULAIVE SUBSTANTIAL HAVE A CUMULAIVE SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE OR IMPROVEMENT RULE ON DAMAGE OR IMPROVEMENT RULE ON THE BOOKS. THE BOOKS. SO IN THE CITY OF DUNEDIN, WE'VE SO IN THE CITY OF DUNEDIN, WE'VE HAD FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS NOW A HAD FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS NOW A FIVE-YEAR CUMULATIVE. FIVE-YEAR CUMULATIVE. THAT HAS TO ESSENTIALLY BY LAW THAT HAS TO ESSENTIALLY BY LAW IT HAS TO GO TA WAY. IT HAS TO GO TA WAY. THE PRIMARY FUNCTION OF THE THE PRIMARY FUNCTION OF THE ORDINANCE YOU'RE CONSIDERING ORDINANCE YOU'RE CONSIDERING HERE THIS EVENING IS TO SIMPLY HERE THIS EVENING IS TO SIMPLY REMOVE THAT. REMOVE THAT. IN DOING SO, THERE'S A COUPLE IN DOING SO, THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS I'D OTHER HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE'RE LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE'RE GOING BE DOING. GOING BE DOING. WE'RE GOING TO DELETE THE WE'RE GOING TO DELETE THE LANGUAGE THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE CONFLICT WITH THE NEW STATE LAW. CONFLICT WITH THE NEW STATE LAW. WE ARE ALSO DELETING LANGUAGE IN WE ARE ALSO DELETING LANGUAGE IN 105.21.2. 105.21.2. THESE ARE REQUIREMENTS NOW IN THESE ARE REQUIREMENTS NOW IN THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE. THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, WHEN WE WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, WHEN WE ADOPTED THEM AND I PROVIDED THE ADOPTED THEM AND I PROVIDED THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE 15-40, WHEN PREVIOUS ORDINANCE 15-40, WHEN WE ADOPTED THOSE, WE WERE A WE ADOPTED THOSE, WE WERE A LITTLE AHEAD OF THE GAME. LITTLE AHEAD OF THE GAME. AT THE TIME, THERE WAS NOT A AT THE TIME, THERE WAS NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR A ONE-FOOT REQUIREMENT FOR A ONE-FOOT FREEBOARD IN FLORIDA. FREEBOARD IN FLORIDA. WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THAT AS A WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THAT AS A LOCAL TECHNICAL AMENDMENT, THE LOCAL TECHNICAL AMENDMENT, THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE REQUIRES FLORIDA BUILDING CODE REQUIRES THAT. THAT. THE LAST ITEMS YOU'LL SEE ARE A THE LAST ITEMS YOU'LL SEE ARE A NUMBER OF REFERENCE CHANGES FROM NUMBER OF REFERENCE CHANGES FROM THE PREVIOUS VERSION. THE PREVIOUS VERSION. WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY ADOPTED IN 2015, THE REFERENCE TO IN 2015, THE REFERENCE TO DEFINITIONS WAS IN A DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS WAS IN A DIFFERENT SECTION OF THE FLORIDA BUILDING SECTION OF THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE SO WE'VE JUST SIMPLY MADE CODE SO WE'VE JUST SIMPLY MADE THAT MODIFICATION. THAT MODIFICATION. SO WE'RE REFERENCING THE CORRECT SO WE'RE REFERENCING THE CORRECT SECTION OF THE FLORIDA BUILDING SECTION OF THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE. CODE. WHAT I PROVIDED YOU IS A COPY OF WHAT I PROVIDED YOU IS A COPY OF COURSE OF THE ORDINANCE, THE COURSE OF THE ORDINANCE, THE LAWS OF FLORIDA THAT WERE LAWS OF FLORIDA THAT WERE ADOPTED AND WENT INTO EFFECT ON ADOPTED AND WENT INTO EFFECT ON JULY 1st. JULY 1st. THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE YOU CAN THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE YOU CAN KIND OF SEE BY COMPARISON, AND KIND OF SEE BY COMPARISON, AND THEN OF COURSE THE OTHER BACKUP THEN OF COURSE THE OTHER BACKUP TO SUPPORT THAT. TO SUPPORT THAT. AND SO WITH THAT, THAT'S REALLY AND SO WITH THAT, THAT'S REALLY THIS AND SOMEWHAT OF A THIS AND SOMEWHAT OF A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM, BUT I'LL BE HOUSEKEEPING ITEM, BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. MAY HAVE. >> CHAIR: WE'RE ESSENTIALLY >> CHAIR: WE'RE ESSENTIALLY >> CHAIR: WE'RE ESSENTIALLY WANTING >> CHAIR: WE'RE ESSENTIALLY WANTING TO >> CHAIR: WE'RE ESSENTIALLY WANTING TO CONFORM >> CHAIR: WE'RE ESSENTIALLY WANTING TO CONFORM WITH >> CHAIR: WE'RE ESSENTIALLY WANTING TO CONFORM WITH THE WANTING TO CONFORM WITH THE STATE LAW, IS THAT CORRECT? STATE LAW, IS THAT CORRECT? >> WELL, YES, AND WHAT I MEAN BY >> WELL, YES, AND WHAT I MEAN BY >> WELL, YES, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT >> WELL, YES, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, >> WELL, YES, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, WE'VE >> WELL, YES, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, WE'VE ALREADY, >> WELL, YES, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, WE'VE ALREADY, STARTING THAT IS, WE'VE ALREADY, STARTING JULY 1, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED JULY 1, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED DOING THIS IN PRACTICE DOING THIS IN PRACTICE OPERATIONALLY, BUT THIS IS OPERATIONALLY, BUT THIS IS CLEANING UP OUR CODE CLEANING UP OUR CODE ESSENTIALLY, YES, SIR. ESSENTIALLY, YES, SIR. >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. >> >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. >> JOEY, >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. >> JOEY, CAN >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. >> JOEY, CAN YOU >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. >> JOEY, CAN YOU GO >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. >> JOEY, CAN YOU GO THROUGH >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. >> JOEY, CAN YOU GO THROUGH THE >> JOEY, CAN YOU GO THROUGH THE >> JOEY, CAN YOU GO THROUGH THE 50% >> JOEY, CAN YOU GO THROUGH THE 50% THRESHOLD? 50% THRESHOLD? ONCE YOU CROSS THAT THRESHOLD, ONCE YOU CROSS THAT THRESHOLD, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND IF I WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND IF I UNDERSTAND WITH THIS NEW CODE, UNDERSTAND WITH THIS NEW CODE, THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY YOU MAY HAVE PUT IN THE MONEY YOU MAY HAVE PUT IN THE HOUSE IN THE RECENT HISTORY HOUSE IN THE RECENT HISTORY UNDER THE NEW LAW, AS LONG AS UNDER THE NEW LAW, AS LONG AS IT'S UNDER THAT 50% OF THE IT'S UNDER THAT 50% OF THE CURRENT VALUE, YOU CAN JUST GO CURRENT VALUE, YOU CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND DO WHATEVER YOU NEED AHEAD AND DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO. TO. WHAT'S THE OVER 50%, WHAT IS THE WHAT'S THE OVER 50%, WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THAT? IMPACT OF THAT? >> SO LET ME GO AT IT TWO >> SO LET ME GO AT IT TWO >> SO LET ME GO AT IT TWO DIFFERENT >> SO LET ME GO AT IT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS, >> SO LET ME GO AT IT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS, JUST >> SO LET ME GO AT IT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS, JUST SO >> SO LET ME GO AT IT TWO DIFFERENT WAYS, JUST SO WE'RE DIFFERENT WAYS, JUST SO WE'RE FULLY -- SO I'M KIND OF CLEAR AS FULLY -- SO I'M KIND OF CLEAR AS WHAT WE WERE DOING VERSUS WHAT WHAT WE WERE DOING VERSUS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE JULY 1st. WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE JULY 1st. WITH THE FIVE-YEAR CUMULATIVE, WITH THE FIVE-YEAR CUMULATIVE, IF YOU DID A SERIES OF PROJECTS IF YOU DID A SERIES OF PROJECTS OVER LET'S SAY A TWO OR OVER LET'S SAY A TWO OR THREE-YEAR PERIOD, THE CUME LAOF THREE-YEAR PERIOD, THE CUME LAOF IT VALUE IS ADDED TOGETHER, IF IT VALUE IS ADDED TOGETHER, IF IT EQUAL OR EXCEEDS 50% OF THE IT EQUAL OR EXCEEDS 50% OF THE MARKET VALUE OF THE BUILDING, MARKET VALUE OF THE BUILDING, THEN YOU HAVE SO BRING THE THEN YOU HAVE SO BRING THE BUILDING INTO COMPLIANCE WITH BUILDING INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CURRENT REGULATIONS. THE CURRENT REGULATIONS. WHAT THIS DOES IS GOES BACK TO WHAT THIS DOES IS GOES BACK TO THE BASE REQUIREMENT THAT EACH THE BASE REQUIREMENT THAT EACH PROJECT ON ITS OWN, SO AN PROJECT ON ITS OWN, SO AN IMPROVEMENT OR A DAMAGE REPAIR, IMPROVEMENT OR A DAMAGE REPAIR, IF THAT DOES NOT EQUAL OR EXCEED IF THAT DOES NOT EQUAL OR EXCEED 50% OF THE VALUE OF THE 50% OF THE VALUE OF THE BUILDING, THEN YOU CAN GO BUILDING, THEN YOU CAN GO FORWARD. FORWARD. IF IT DOES, THEN YOU HAVE TO IF IT DOES, THEN YOU HAVE TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE. BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE. SO IF YOU EXCEED THE 50%, YOU SO IF YOU EXCEED THE 50%, YOU JUST ALWAYS HAVE TO BRING THE JUST ALWAYS HAVE TO BRING THE BUILDING INTO COMPLIANCE. BUILDING INTO COMPLIANCE. IT'S JUST NOW WE'RE NOT LOOKING IT'S JUST NOW WE'RE NOT LOOKING BACK AT -- IT'S BEEN REFERRED TO BACK AT -- IT'S BEEN REFERRED TO AS A LOOK-BACK PERIOD. AS A LOOK-BACK PERIOD. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT ANY WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT ANY LONGER. LONGER. EACH PERMIT, IF YOU WILL, WILL EACH PERMIT, IF YOU WILL, WILL STAND ON ITS OWN MERITS. STAND ON ITS OWN MERITS. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> JOEY, >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> JOEY, CAN >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> JOEY, CAN YOU >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> JOEY, CAN YOU GIVE >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> JOEY, CAN YOU GIVE ME >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> JOEY, CAN YOU GIVE ME LIKE >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> JOEY, CAN YOU GIVE ME LIKE A >> JOEY, CAN YOU GIVE ME LIKE A >> JOEY, CAN YOU GIVE ME LIKE A REAL, >> JOEY, CAN YOU GIVE ME LIKE A REAL, I >> JOEY, CAN YOU GIVE ME LIKE A REAL, I MEAN, >> JOEY, CAN YOU GIVE ME LIKE A REAL, I MEAN, YOU >> JOEY, CAN YOU GIVE ME LIKE A REAL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, >> JOEY, CAN YOU GIVE ME LIKE A REAL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I >> JOEY, CAN YOU GIVE ME LIKE A REAL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I READ REAL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I READ THIS SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT THIS SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT REPAIRS TO A STRUCTURE INCLUDES REPAIRS TO A STRUCTURE INCLUDES CUMULATIVE, SUBSTANTIVE CUMULATIVE, SUBSTANTIVE IMPROVEMENT, BUT GIVE ME A IMPROVEMENT, BUT GIVE ME A REAL -- REAL -- >> MICROPHONE, PLEASE. >> MICROPHONE, PLEASE. >> MICROPHONE, PLEASE. >> >> MICROPHONE, PLEASE. >> GIVE >> MICROPHONE, PLEASE. >> GIVE ME >> MICROPHONE, PLEASE. >> GIVE ME A >> MICROPHONE, PLEASE. >> GIVE ME A REAL >> MICROPHONE, PLEASE. >> GIVE ME A REAL TIME >> MICROPHONE, PLEASE. >> GIVE ME A REAL TIME EXAMPLE. >> GIVE ME A REAL TIME EXAMPLE. >> GIVE ME A REAL TIME EXAMPLE. JUST >> GIVE ME A REAL TIME EXAMPLE. JUST MAKE >> GIVE ME A REAL TIME EXAMPLE. JUST MAKE UP >> GIVE ME A REAL TIME EXAMPLE. JUST MAKE UP ONE. JUST MAKE UP ONE. I WANT TO KNOW HOW IT REALLY I WANT TO KNOW HOW IT REALLY WORK. WORK. >> SURE. >> SURE. >> SURE. SO >> SURE. SO I >> SURE. SO I CAN >> SURE. SO I CAN DO >> SURE. SO I CAN DO IT >> SURE. SO I CAN DO IT FROM, >> SURE. SO I CAN DO IT FROM, I'LL >> SURE. SO I CAN DO IT FROM, I'LL DO >> SURE. SO I CAN DO IT FROM, I'LL DO IT SO I CAN DO IT FROM, I'LL DO IT VERY QUICKLY FROM BOTH VERY QUICKLY FROM BOTH PERSPECTIVES. PERSPECTIVES. OBVIOUSLY IF PEOPLE WANT TO OBVIOUSLY IF PEOPLE WANT TO IMPROVE THEIR HOME, THEY WANT TO IMPROVE THEIR HOME, THEY WANT TO DO AN ADDITION, A RENOVATION, A DO AN ADDITION, A RENOVATION, A REMODEL, REHABILITATION AND REMODEL, REHABILITATION AND THEIR BUILDING IS SITTING IN A THEIR BUILDING IS SITTING IN A FLOOD ZONE, A SPECIAL FLOOD FLOOD ZONE, A SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA, AN A OR V ZONE WE HAZARD AREA, AN A OR V ZONE WE GET THE MARKET VALUE FOR THE GET THE MARKET VALUE FOR THE BUILDING, FOR ROUND NUMBERS BUILDING, FOR ROUND NUMBERS $100,000. $100,000. I KNOW THAT'S RIDICULOUS THESE I KNOW THAT'S RIDICULOUS THESE DAYS BUT LET'S JUST SAY DAYS BUT LET'S JUST SAY $100,000. $100,000. THAT MEANS YOUR IMPROVEMENT THAT MEANS YOUR IMPROVEMENT PROJECT CANNOT EQUAL OR EXCEED PROJECT CANNOT EQUAL OR EXCEED $50,000, OTHERWISE YOU WERE $50,000, OTHERWISE YOU WERE CONSIDERED A SUBSTANTIAL CONSIDERED A SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENT. IMPROVEMENT. YOU WOULD HAVE TO BRING THE YOU WOULD HAVE TO BRING THE BUILDING INTO COMPLIANCE. BUILDING INTO COMPLIANCE. >> I GOT IT. >> I GOT IT. >> I GOT IT. >> >> I GOT IT. >> THE >> I GOT IT. >> THE SAME >> I GOT IT. >> THE SAME SCENARIO >> I GOT IT. >> THE SAME SCENARIO HAPPENS >> I GOT IT. >> THE SAME SCENARIO HAPPENS IF >> THE SAME SCENARIO HAPPENS IF >> THE SAME SCENARIO HAPPENS IF IT'S >> THE SAME SCENARIO HAPPENS IF IT'S DAMAGED, >> THE SAME SCENARIO HAPPENS IF IT'S DAMAGED, LIKE >> THE SAME SCENARIO HAPPENS IF IT'S DAMAGED, LIKE WITH >> THE SAME SCENARIO HAPPENS IF IT'S DAMAGED, LIKE WITH THE IT'S DAMAGED, LIKE WITH THE FLOODS. FLOODS. IT'S THE BUILDING'S CONDITION IT'S THE BUILDING'S CONDITION PRIOR TO THE DAMAGE, AND AGAIN, PRIOR TO THE DAMAGE, AND AGAIN, IF IT WAS WORTH $100,000 AND IT IF IT WAS WORTH $100,000 AND IT COST MORE THAN 50 TO REPAIR IT, COST MORE THAN 50 TO REPAIR IT, THEN YOU WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY THEN YOU WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY DAMAGED. DAMAGED. >> YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND MEET >> YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND MEET >> YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND MEET ALL >> YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND MEET ALL THE >> YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND MEET ALL THE CODES. ALL THE CODES. >> CORRECT. >> CORRECT. >> CORRECT. WE'RE >> CORRECT. WE'RE TALKING >> CORRECT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT >> CORRECT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ELEVATING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ELEVATING THE BUILDING. THE BUILDING. >> RIGHT, SO THAT MEANS YOU HAVE >> RIGHT, SO THAT MEANS YOU HAVE >> RIGHT, SO THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO >> RIGHT, SO THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO ELEVATE >> RIGHT, SO THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO ELEVATE IT, >> RIGHT, SO THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO ELEVATE IT, RIGHT? TO ELEVATE IT, RIGHT? >> GENERALLY SPEAKING. >> GENERALLY SPEAKING. >> GENERALLY SPEAKING. SO >> GENERALLY SPEAKING. SO THE >> GENERALLY SPEAKING. SO THE FUNDAMENTAL >> GENERALLY SPEAKING. SO THE FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE SO THE FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE OBVIOUSLY FOR MOST PEOPLE'S OBVIOUSLY FOR MOST PEOPLE'S COMMON KNOWLEDGE IS, WHEN YOU COMMON KNOWLEDGE IS, WHEN YOU DON'T COMPLY, IT'S BECAUSE YOUR DON'T COMPLY, IT'S BECAUSE YOUR LIVING FLOOR IS BELOW THE BASE LIVING FLOOR IS BELOW THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION. FLOOD ELEVATION. YOU'RE RESTRICTED BY THE 50% YOU'RE RESTRICTED BY THE 50% RULE. RULE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> HEY, >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> HEY, JOEY, >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> HEY, JOEY, ONE >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> HEY, JOEY, ONE MORE >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> HEY, JOEY, ONE MORE QUESTION. >> HEY, JOEY, ONE MORE QUESTION. >> HEY, JOEY, ONE MORE QUESTION. I >> HEY, JOEY, ONE MORE QUESTION. I NOTICED >> HEY, JOEY, ONE MORE QUESTION. I NOTICED THE >> HEY, JOEY, ONE MORE QUESTION. I NOTICED THE STATE >> HEY, JOEY, ONE MORE QUESTION. I NOTICED THE STATE LAW >> HEY, JOEY, ONE MORE QUESTION. I NOTICED THE STATE LAW ADDED I NOTICED THE STATE LAW ADDED THIS HISTORIC STRUCTURE LINE IN THIS HISTORIC STRUCTURE LINE IN HERE. HERE. WHAT IS AN ALTERATION THAT COULD WHAT IS AN ALTERATION THAT COULD PRECLUDE A STRUCTURE'S CONTINUED PRECLUDE A STRUCTURE'S CONTINUED DESIGNATION AS HISTORIC DESIGNATION AS HISTORIC STRUCTURE? STRUCTURE? >> SO WHAT THAT ESSENTIALLY >> SO WHAT THAT ESSENTIALLY >> SO WHAT THAT ESSENTIALLY MEANS >> SO WHAT THAT ESSENTIALLY MEANS IS >> SO WHAT THAT ESSENTIALLY MEANS IS THAT >> SO WHAT THAT ESSENTIALLY MEANS IS THAT ANYTHING >> SO WHAT THAT ESSENTIALLY MEANS IS THAT ANYTHING YOU >> SO WHAT THAT ESSENTIALLY MEANS IS THAT ANYTHING YOU WOULD MEANS IS THAT ANYTHING YOU WOULD DO TO THE BUILDING THAT WOULD DO TO THE BUILDING THAT WOULD DELIST IT FROM WHATEVER DELIST IT FROM WHATEVER HISTORICAL LIST IT'S ON, SO YOU HISTORICAL LIST IT'S ON, SO YOU KNOW, CLEARLY IF YOU TOOK A KNOW, CLEARLY IF YOU TOOK A CRAFTSMAN HOME AND DECIDED TO CRAFTSMAN HOME AND DECIDED TO SLAP MODERN METAL FRONTAGE ON SLAP MODERN METAL FRONTAGE ON IT, THAT WOULD BE AN ALTERATION IT, THAT WOULD BE AN ALTERATION THAT WOULD NOT BE CONSISTENT THAT WOULD NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS USUALLY OF WITH THE REQUIREMENTS USUALLY OF THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT. THE HISTORICAL DISTRICT. WHAT YOU'RE BASICALLY TALKING WHAT YOU'RE BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT IS DOING SOMETHING TO ABOUT IS DOING SOMETHING TO SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT STRUCTURE, AND MOST OF THE TIME STRUCTURE, AND MOST OF THE TIME IT'S BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE IT'S BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING TO THE OUTSIDE OF IT. SOMETHING TO THE OUTSIDE OF IT. >> OKAY, AND THAT COULD BE >> OKAY, AND THAT COULD BE >> OKAY, AND THAT COULD BE UNIQUE >> OKAY, AND THAT COULD BE UNIQUE BASED >> OKAY, AND THAT COULD BE UNIQUE BASED UPON >> OKAY, AND THAT COULD BE UNIQUE BASED UPON THE >> OKAY, AND THAT COULD BE UNIQUE BASED UPON THE HISTORIC UNIQUE BASED UPON THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION REQUIREMENTS FOR DESIGNATION REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT LANDMARK OR DISTRICT. THAT LANDMARK OR DISTRICT. >> CORRECT, YES, AND OF COURSE >> CORRECT, YES, AND OF COURSE >> CORRECT, YES, AND OF COURSE WE >> CORRECT, YES, AND OF COURSE WE WOULDN'T >> CORRECT, YES, AND OF COURSE WE WOULDN'T WANT >> CORRECT, YES, AND OF COURSE WE WOULDN'T WANT TO >> CORRECT, YES, AND OF COURSE WE WOULDN'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE WE WOULDN'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE ANYTHING THAT WOULD DETRACT FROM ANYTHING THAT WOULD DETRACT FROM THE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE. THE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: ANYONE >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: ANYONE ELSE? >> CHAIR: ANYONE ELSE? >> CHAIR: ANYONE ELSE? >> >> CHAIR: ANYONE ELSE? >> SOMETHING >> CHAIR: ANYONE ELSE? >> SOMETHING YOU'VE >> CHAIR: ANYONE ELSE? >> SOMETHING YOU'VE CENTERED >> CHAIR: ANYONE ELSE? >> SOMETHING YOU'VE CENTERED ON >> SOMETHING YOU'VE CENTERED ON >> SOMETHING YOU'VE CENTERED ON ALSO >> SOMETHING YOU'VE CENTERED ON ALSO WHEN >> SOMETHING YOU'VE CENTERED ON ALSO WHEN YOU >> SOMETHING YOU'VE CENTERED ON ALSO WHEN YOU WERE >> SOMETHING YOU'VE CENTERED ON ALSO WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING, >> SOMETHING YOU'VE CENTERED ON ALSO WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING, YOU ALSO WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING, YOU KEEP ON STATING THE BUILDING. KEEP ON STATING THE BUILDING. THE ACTUAL PROPERTY HAS NOTHING THE ACTUAL PROPERTY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT, IT'S SIMPLY THE TO DO WITH THAT, IT'S SIMPLY THE VALUE OF THE BUILDING, CORRECT? VALUE OF THE BUILDING, CORRECT? >> THAT'S A GREAT POINT, YES, >> THAT'S A GREAT POINT, YES, >> THAT'S A GREAT POINT, YES, SIR. SIR. SO IT'S THE VALUE OF THE SO IT'S THE VALUE OF THE STRUCTURE, EXCLUDING THE LAND STRUCTURE, EXCLUDING THE LAND AND ANY SPECIAL FEATURES SUCH AS AND ANY SPECIAL FEATURES SUCH AS A SWIMMING POOL, FENCES, A SWIMMING POOL, FENCES, LANDSCAPING, RETAINING WALL, SEA LANDSCAPING, RETAINING WALL, SEA WALLS, THINGS THAT ARE NOT PART WALLS, THINGS THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, THOSE OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, THOSE DO NOT COUNT. DO NOT COUNT. SO IT IS THE PRIMARY BUILDING. SO IT IS THE PRIMARY BUILDING. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> >> THANK YOU. >> THAT'S >> THANK YOU. >> THAT'S A >> THANK YOU. >> THAT'S A GREAT >> THANK YOU. >> THAT'S A GREAT POINT, >> THANK YOU. >> THAT'S A GREAT POINT, THANK >> THAT'S A GREAT POINT, THANK >> THAT'S A GREAT POINT, THANK YOU. YOU. >> THAT IS A GOOD POINT. >> THAT IS A GOOD POINT. >> THAT IS A GOOD POINT. >> >> THAT IS A GOOD POINT. >> CHAIR: >> THAT IS A GOOD POINT. >> CHAIR: ANYBODY >> THAT IS A GOOD POINT. >> CHAIR: ANYBODY ELSE? >> CHAIR: ANYBODY ELSE? >> CHAIR: ANYBODY ELSE? SUPER. SUPER. WE ARE OPEN FOR PUBLIC INPUT. WE ARE OPEN FOR PUBLIC INPUT. DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK? TO SPEAK? I DON'T SEE ANYONE. I DON'T SEE ANYONE. SO WE ARE CLOSING PUBLIC INPUT. SO WE ARE CLOSING PUBLIC INPUT. CAN WE GET A MOTION FOR THIS CAN WE GET A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM? ITEM? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 25-07 >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 25-07 AS >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 25-07 AS WRITTEN. ORDINANCE 25-07 AS WRITTEN. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> >> SECOND. >> CHAIR: >> SECOND. >> CHAIR: ALL >> SECOND. >> CHAIR: ALL IN >> SECOND. >> CHAIR: ALL IN FAVOR? >> CHAIR: ALL IN FAVOR? >> CHAIR: ALL IN FAVOR? [ >> CHAIR: ALL IN FAVOR? [ CHORUS >> CHAIR: ALL IN FAVOR? [ CHORUS OF >> CHAIR: ALL IN FAVOR? [ CHORUS OF AYES >> CHAIR: ALL IN FAVOR? [ CHORUS OF AYES ] [ CHORUS OF AYES ] ANY OPPOSED? ANY OPPOSED? THE VOTE PASSES. THE VOTE PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE MOVE ON TO A MORE OKAY, WE MOVE ON TO A MORE FORMAL SESSION NOW. FORMAL SESSION NOW. WHILE THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY WHILE THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY IS NOT A QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARD IS NOT A QUASI-JUDICIAL BOARD AND THEREFORE HAS NO FINAL AND THEREFORE HAS NO FINAL DECISION-MAKING PROCEDURE FOR DECISION-MAKING PROCEDURE FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL ITEMS AS QUASI-JUDICIAL ITEMS AS STRUCTURED IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL STRUCTURED IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL MANNER FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE MANNER FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE WHO COME BEFORE IT. WHO COME BEFORE IT. THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER WAY THERE'S GOT TO BE A BETTER WAY TO SAY THAT. TO SAY THAT. [ LAUGHTER ] [ LAUGHTER ] THE COMMISSION WILL BE THE THE COMMISSION WILL BE THE ULTIMATE QUASI-JUDICIAL MEETING ULTIMATE QUASI-JUDICIAL MEETING AUTHORITY. AUTHORITY. THE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT THE ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT THAT IS QUASI-JUDICIAL IN NATURE THAT IS QUASI-JUDICIAL IN NATURE IS ITEM 1C, AND THE FORMAT WILL IS ITEM 1C, AND THE FORMAT WILL BE AS FOLLOWS. BE AS FOLLOWS. I WILL INTRODUCE EACH ITEM, I WILL INTRODUCE EACH ITEM, AFTER WHICH THE CITY AFTER WHICH THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE WILL PRESENT REPRESENTATIVE WILL PRESENT INFORMATION ABOUT IT. INFORMATION ABOUT IT. THEREAFTER MEMBERS OF THE LPA THEREAFTER MEMBERS OF THE LPA WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT INFORMATION ABOUT THE ITEM. INFORMATION ABOUT THE ITEM. THEREAFTER, THE MEMBERS OF THE THEREAFTER, THE MEMBERS OF THE LPA WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LPA WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. FINALLY, ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC FINALLY, ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC MAY COME FORWARD. MAY COME FORWARD. THOSE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO THOSE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY ABOUT THE ITEM PROVIDE TESTIMONY ABOUT THE ITEM WILL NEED TO APPROACH THE WILL NEED TO APPROACH THE LECTERN, STATE THEIR NAME AND LECTERN, STATE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THEN UTILIZE THE ADDRESS AND THEN UTILIZE THE MICROPHONE AT THE LECTERN IN MICROPHONE AT THE LECTERN IN ORDER FOR THEIR COMMENTS TO BE ORDER FOR THEIR COMMENTS TO BE RECORDED. RECORDED. INDIVIDUAL PUBLIC SPEAKERS WILL INDIVIDUAL PUBLIC SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES OF BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES OF SPEAKING TIME AND WE KINDLY SPEAKING TIME AND WE KINDLY REQUEST THAT SPEAKERS ARE REQUEST THAT SPEAKERS ARE RESPECTFUL OF THE COUNTDOWN RESPECTFUL OF THE COUNTDOWN CLOCK. CLOCK. FINALLY, BOTH THE CITY FINALLY, BOTH THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE AND THE APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE AND THE APPLICANT WILL BE PROVIDED ANY FINAL WILL BE PROVIDED ANY FINAL COMMENTS. COMMENTS. UPON CONCLUSION OF EACH PUBLIC UPON CONCLUSION OF EACH PUBLIC HEARING, THE LPA WILL CONSIDER HEARING, THE LPA WILL CONSIDER THE EVIDENCE BEFORE IT AND WILL THE EVIDENCE BEFORE IT AND WILL VOTE ON THE AGENDA ITEM. VOTE ON THE AGENDA ITEM. THAT VOICE VOTE IS THE RENDITION THAT VOICE VOTE IS THE RENDITION OF THE ORDER OF THE BOARD, AND OF THE ORDER OF THE BOARD, AND THERE WILL BE NO WRITTEN THERE WILL BE NO WRITTEN DECISION BY THE BOARD. DECISION BY THE BOARD. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO GIVE TESTIMONY TO ANY WISHES TO GIVE TESTIMONY TO ANY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WILL NEED TO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WILL NEED TO BE SWORN IN BY THE CITY DEPUTY BE SWORN IN BY THE CITY DEPUTY CLERK. CLERK. THE CLERK WILL NOW SWEAR IN ALL THE CLERK WILL NOW SWEAR IN ALL PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK OR GIVE PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK OR GIVE TESTIMONY TO TONIGHT'S TESTIMONY TO TONIGHT'S QUASI-JUDICIAL AGENDA ITEM. QUASI-JUDICIAL AGENDA ITEM. >> DO YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY >> DO YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY >> DO YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE >> DO YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT >> DO YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO >> DO YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE >> DO YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IN >> DO YOU SWEAR THE TESTIMONY YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IN THIS YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IN THIS PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE PROCEEDING IS THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? TRUTH? >> YES. >> YES. >> YES. >> >> YES. >> THANK >> YES. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> >> THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: >> THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: HAS >> THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: HAS ANYONE >> THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: HAS ANYONE HAD >> THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: HAS ANYONE HAD EX >> CHAIR: HAS ANYONE HAD EX >> CHAIR: HAS ANYONE HAD EX PARTE >> CHAIR: HAS ANYONE HAD EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS >> CHAIR: HAS ANYONE HAD EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS REGARDING PARTE COMMUNICATIONS REGARDING THIS ITEM? THIS ITEM? >> NO. >> NO. >> NO. >> >> NO. >> NO. >> NO. >> NO. >> >> NO. >> CHAIR: >> NO. >> CHAIR: THANK >> NO. >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. APPLICATION >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. APPLICATION LUP/ZO-2025-0001. APPLICATION LUP/ZO-2025-0001. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AGAIN, >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AGAIN, JOSEPH >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AGAIN, JOSEPH DiPASQUA >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AGAIN, JOSEPH DiPASQUA ON >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AGAIN, JOSEPH DiPASQUA ON BEHALF AGAIN, JOSEPH DiPASQUA ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. DEPARTMENT. YES, I'D LIKE TO DO A BRIEF YES, I'D LIKE TO DO A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THIS PRESENTATION ON THIS APPLICATION. APPLICATION. APPLICATION LUP/ZO-2025-0001. APPLICATION LUP/ZO-2025-0001. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT IT, THE APPLICATION HERE, ABOUT IT, THE APPLICATION HERE, THEN THE PETITION YOU'RE THEN THE PETITION YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS EVENING FOR CONSIDERING THIS EVENING FOR RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY RECOMMENDATION OF THE CITY COMMISSION IS LAND USE PLAN COMMISSION IS LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT AND REZONING REQUEST. AMENDMENT AND REZONING REQUEST. THE APPLICANT AND OWNER IS THE THE APPLICANT AND OWNER IS THE GOLDER ACRES R.O. ASSOCIATION GOLDER ACRES R.O. ASSOCIATION INCORPORATED. INCORPORATED. THE REPRESENTATIVE IS JONATHAN THE REPRESENTATIVE IS JONATHAN JAMES DAMN THE REPRESENTATIVE IS JONATHAN JAMES DAMONTE,'S SQUARE. JAMES DAMONTE,'S SQUARE. HE IS HERE THIS EVENING. HE IS HERE THIS EVENING. THE STREET ADDRESS OF THIS THE STREET ADDRESS OF THIS PROPERTY IS 1050 MAIN STREET PROPERTY IS 1050 MAIN STREET DUNEDIN, FLORIDA, 246 THE 8 AND DUNEDIN, FLORIDA, 246 THE 8 AND THE PROPERTY IS 0.53 ACRES. TO THE PROPERTY IS 0.53 ACRES. TO THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN I TRIED THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN I TRIED TO ORIENT YOU TO THE PROPERTY IN TO ORIENT YOU TO THE PROPERTY IN THE RELATIONSHIP TO THE MOBILE THE RELATIONSHIP TO THE MOBILE HOME PARK AND REGENT'S BANK AND HOME PARK AND REGENT'S BANK AND A RESTAURANT THAT HAS HAD A A RESTAURANT THAT HAS HAD A TURNOVER IN NAMES BUT A TURNOVER IN NAMES BUT A RESTAURANT ON THE CORNER THERE RESTAURANT ON THE CORNER THERE AS WELL. AS WELL. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. SO THE IMAGE YOU'RE SEEING TO SO THE IMAGE YOU'RE SEEING TO THE FAR LEFT, THAT IS THE MOBILE THE FAR LEFT, THAT IS THE MOBILE HOME PARK, THE GOLDEN ACRES HOME PARK, THE GOLDEN ACRES MOBILE HOME PARK IN ITS MOBILE HOME PARK IN ITS ENTIRETY. ENTIRETY. IT'S 20.38 ACRES. IT'S 20.38 ACRES. IT'S INCLUDING THE PARCEL WE'RE IT'S INCLUDING THE PARCEL WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE THIS EVENING AND DISCUSSING HERE THIS EVENING AND YOU'LL SEE IT OUTLINED THERE IN YOU'LL SEE IT OUTLINED THERE IN YELLOW AND ALSO SEE THE ENLARGED YELLOW AND ALSO SEE THE ENLARGED VIEW IF YOU CAN SEE A CLOSE-UP VIEW IF YOU CAN SEE A CLOSE-UP OF THE PROPERTY WE'RE DISCUSSING OF THE PROPERTY WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE THIS EVENING. HERE THIS EVENING. AGAIN, THE PROPERTY'S T HERE THIS EVENING. AGAIN, THE PROPERTY'S 0.53 AGAIN, THE PROPERTY'S 0.53 ACRES. ACRES. SOME OF THE BACKGROUND SOME OF THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, THE APPLICANT INFORMATION, THE APPLICANT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN JUNE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN JUNE OF 2020. OF 2020. IN 2023 THE RESIDENCE ON THE IN 2023 THE RESIDENCE ON THE PROPERTY WAS GHOLISHED AND THE PROPERTY WAS GHOLISHED AND THE PROPERTY'S REMAINED VACANT EVER PROPERTY'S REMAINED VACANT EVER SINCE. SINCE. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL IMAGES WE PROVIDE, THE PROPERTY IMAGES WE PROVIDE, THE PROPERTY IS LANDLOCKED. IS LANDLOCKED. IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY ACCESS FROM IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY ACCESS FROM EITHER MAIN STREET OR ROBIN HILL EITHER MAIN STREET OR ROBIN HILL LANE. LANE. SO THE ACCESS IS THROUGH THAT SO THE ACCESS IS THROUGH THAT ARROW, YOU'LL SEE THE TWO-SIDED ARROW, YOU'LL SEE THE TWO-SIDED ARROW THERE, IT'S THROUGH THE ARROW THERE, IT'S THROUGH THE MOBILE HOME PARK, THE PRIVATE MOBILE HOME PARK, THE PRIVATE STREETS. STREETS. THEREFORE, THE APPLICANT IS THEREFORE, THE APPLICANT IS WISHING TO UNIFY THIS PROPERTY WISHING TO UNIFY THIS PROPERTY BY CHANGING THE LAND USE BY CHANGING THE LAND USE PLANNING CATEGORY AND THE ZONING PLANNING CATEGORY AND THE ZONING DISTRICT DESIGNATION TO MATCH DISTRICT DESIGNATION TO MATCH THE REST OF THE GOLDEN ACRES THE REST OF THE GOLDEN ACRES MOBILE HOME PARK AND THE MOBILE HOME PARK AND THE APPLICANT'S USE AND ULTIMATE USE APPLICANT'S USE AND ULTIMATE USE OF THE SITE IS TO BE PART OF THE OF THE SITE IS TO BE PART OF THE COMMON AREA FOR THE PARK AND NO COMMON AREA FOR THE PARK AND NO ADDITIONAL MOBILE HOMES ARE ADDITIONAL MOBILE HOMES ARE PLANNED FOR THE PROPERTY AND PLANNED FOR THE PROPERTY AND MR. DAMONTE CAN SPEAK TO THE MR. DAMONTE CAN SPEAK TO THE TECHNICALITIES OF WHY THAT'S TECHNICALITIES OF WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT ON WHAT THE OWNERS CAN IMPORTANT ON WHAT THE OWNERS CAN DO WITH THE SITE. DO WITH THE SITE. AND SO THIS IS THE SAME IMAGE TO AND SO THIS IS THE SAME IMAGE TO THE LEFT WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE LEFT WHERE YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A STAR THERE AND WHAT WE THERE'S A STAR THERE AND WHAT WE PROVIDED YOU A LITTLE STREET PROVIDED YOU A LITTLE STREET VIEW. VIEW. YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE PARCEL YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE PARCEL LOOKS LIKE TODAY. LOOKS LIKE TODAY. THAT'S A DRIVEWAY THAT USED TO THAT'S A DRIVEWAY THAT USED TO LEAD INTO THE HOME THAT'S BEEN LEAD INTO THE HOME THAT'S BEEN REMOVED, AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S REMOVED, AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S BASICALLY JUST A RELATIVELY FLAT BASICALLY JUST A RELATIVELY FLAT GRASSED AREA THAT'S FENCED IN. GRASSED AREA THAT'S FENCED IN. SO THE FIRST ITEM YOU'RE LOOKING SO THE FIRST ITEM YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS AN ORDINANCE FOR THE LAND AT IS AN ORDINANCE FOR THE LAND USE AMENDMENT AND AGAIN, THEY USE AMENDMENT AND AGAIN, THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE PROPERTY FROM WANT TO CHANGE THE PROPERTY FROM RETAIL AND SERVICES CALLED RNS RETAIL AND SERVICES CALLED RNS TO RESIDENTIAL LOW MEDIUM, AND TO RESIDENTIAL LOW MEDIUM, AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE IMAGE TO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE IMAGE TO THE RIGHT, THE PROPERTY IS THE RIGHT, THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED AND YOU'LL SEE OUTLINED IN RED AND YOU'LL SEE THE AREA THAT IS SORT OF LIGHT THE AREA THAT IS SORT OF LIGHT TAN OR THE LIGHT BROWN COLOR, TAN OR THE LIGHT BROWN COLOR, THAT'S THE RLM, THE ENTIRE PARK THAT'S THE RLM, THE ENTIRE PARK IS SITTING IN THAT LAND USE IS SITTING IN THAT LAND USE TODAY AND THEY OF COURSE WOULD TODAY AND THEY OF COURSE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THIS PROPERTY TO LIKE TO CHANGE THIS PROPERTY TO MATCH THAT, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE MATCH THAT, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THAT CURRENTLY THE RED IS THE THAT CURRENTLY THE RED IS THE RETAIL AND SERVICE AS IT SITS RETAIL AND SERVICE AS IT SITS TODAY. TODAY. AND STAFF FINDS THAT THAT LAND AND STAFF FINDS THAT THAT LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT IS CERTAINLY USE PLAN AMENDMENT IS CERTAINLY CONSISTENT WITH OUR CONSISTENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE COUNTY-WIDE RULES. COUNTY-WIDE RULES. AND SORT OF THIS IS JUST GIVING AND SORT OF THIS IS JUST GIVING YOU SOME IDEA OF A SIDE-BY-SIDE YOU SOME IDEA OF A SIDE-BY-SIDE BETWEEN WHAT'S THERE TODAY OR BETWEEN WHAT'S THERE TODAY OR WHAT THE LAND USE IS TODAY WHAT THE LAND USE IS TODAY VERSUS WHAT'S PROPOSED. VERSUS WHAT'S PROPOSED. RETAIL AND SERVICES ALLOWS A RETAIL AND SERVICES ALLOWS A NUMBER OF COMMERCIAL USES, NUMBER OF COMMERCIAL USES, RETAIL, IT'S A MORE INTENSE USE. RETAIL, IT'S A MORE INTENSE USE. THE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE THE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE ALLOWED IS 24 UNITS PER ACRE. ALLOWED IS 24 UNITS PER ACRE. IT'S GOT A LARGER FLOOR AREA IT'S GOT A LARGER FLOOR AREA RATIO THAN WHAT YOU WOULD FIND. RATIO THAN WHAT YOU WOULD FIND. THIS IS TYPICALLY A COMMERCIAL THIS IS TYPICALLY A COMMERCIAL LAND USE, AND THEN THE PROPOSED LAND USE, AND THEN THE PROPOSED IS RESIDENTIAL LOW MEDIUM WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL LOW MEDIUM WHICH IS TEN UNITS AN ACRE AND IS TEN UNITS AN ACRE AND ESSENTIALLY PRIMARY USES ON IT ESSENTIALLY PRIMARY USES ON IT WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL AS THE NAME WOULD BE RESIDENTIAL AS THE NAME OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW, INDICATES. OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW, INDICATES. MOVING TO THE REZONING, AGAIN, MOVING TO THE REZONING, AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE FROM THE IMAGE HERE, YOU'LL SEE FROM THE IMAGE HERE, THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE ZONING MATCH THE MOBILE HOME THE ZONING MATCH THE MOBILE HOME PARK WHICH IS THE ZONING IS MH, PARK WHICH IS THE ZONING IS MH, MOBILE HOME. MOBILE HOME. THAT'S THE GREEN AREA, RIGHT NOW THAT'S THE GREEN AREA, RIGHT NOW BEING FX-M THEY'D LIKE TO CHANGE BEING FX-M THEY'D LIKE TO CHANGE IT TO MOBILE HOME. IT TO MOBILE HOME. THE CITY HAS CRITERIA IN THE THE CITY HAS CRITERIA IN THE CODE AND WITHIN THE STAFFING WE CODE AND WITHIN THE STAFFING WE HAVE PROVIDED THE ANALYSIS OF HAVE PROVIDED THE ANALYSIS OF THOSE CRITERIA, SEVEN ITEMS THAT THOSE CRITERIA, SEVEN ITEMS THAT HAVE TO BE REQUESTED. HAVE TO BE REQUESTED. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT AS STAFF WE'VE GONE THROUGH THAT AS STAFF AND RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE AND RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REZONING FROM FORM BASED MEDIUM REZONING FROM FORM BASED MEDIUM TO MOBILE HOME AS BEING TO MOBILE HOME AS BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE CRITERIA IN CONSISTENT WITH THE CRITERIA IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND AGAIN GOING FROM A RELATIVELY AGAIN GOING FROM A RELATIVELY MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL MIXED MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL MIXED USE ZONING TO MOBILE HOME, WHICH USE ZONING TO MOBILE HOME, WHICH ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS MOBILE HOMES ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS MOBILE HOMES AND ACCESSORY USES ASSOCIATED AND ACCESSORY USES ASSOCIATED WITH MOBILE HOMES AND MOBILE WITH MOBILE HOMES AND MOBILE HOME PARKS. HOME PARKS. AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT HERE, AND SO YOU'LL SEE THAT HERE, ORDINANCE 25-09, THE FORM-BASED ORDINANCE 25-09, THE FORM-BASED MEDIUM IS A HIGH DENSITY WITH A MEDIUM IS A HIGH DENSITY WITH A MYRIAD OF MIXED USES, RETAILS, MYRIAD OF MIXED USES, RETAILS, OFFICES, ROW HOMES, APARTMENTS. OFFICES, ROW HOMES, APARTMENTS. IT DOES ALLOW A GREAT DEAL OF IT DOES ALLOW A GREAT DEAL OF USES, AND THEY WANT TO MOVE IT USES, AND THEY WANT TO MOVE IT OF COURSE TO THE MUCH LESS OF COURSE TO THE MUCH LESS INTENSE MOBILE HOME AS I SAID, INTENSE MOBILE HOME AS I SAID, TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE REST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE PARK. OF THE PARK. AND AGAIN, THE MOBILE HOME AND AGAIN, THE MOBILE HOME ALLOWS JUST THAT, MOBILE HOMES ALLOWS JUST THAT, MOBILE HOMES AND ASSOCIATED ACCESSORY USES. AND ASSOCIATED ACCESSORY USES. SO THAT SAID, STAFF SO THAT SAID, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE, RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE, HAVE, THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE HAVE, THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE LPA IS THAT THE LPA RECOMMEND TO LPA IS THAT THE LPA RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL OF THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 25-308 CHANGING THE ORDINANCE 25-308 CHANGING THE LAND USE PLAN CATEGORY OF THIS LAND USE PLAN CATEGORY OF THIS PROPERTY FROM RETAIL AND PROPERTY FROM RETAIL AND SERVICES TO RESIDENTIAL LOW SERVICES TO RESIDENTIAL LOW MEDIUM AND ORDINANCE 25-09 IS TO MEDIUM AND ORDINANCE 25-09 IS TO CHANGE THE ZONING DISTRICT CHANGE THE ZONING DISTRICT DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY FROM DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY FROM FORM-BASED MEDIUM TO MOBILE FORM-BASED MEDIUM TO MOBILE HOME, AND IF THIS RECOMMENDATION HOME, AND IF THIS RECOMMENDATION WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE CITY WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE CITY COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 9th FOR COMMISSION ON OCTOBER 9th FOR FIRST READING, THE NEXT ACTION FIRST READING, THE NEXT ACTION AFTER THAT, AS YOU PROBABLY AFTER THAT, AS YOU PROBABLY RECALL WITH A LOT OF OUR LAND RECALL WITH A LOT OF OUR LAND USE IS THIS HAS TO GO TO THE USE IS THIS HAS TO GO TO THE COUNTY FOR APPROVAL. COUNTY FOR APPROVAL. THAT WILL BE SORT OF THE NEXT THAT WILL BE SORT OF THE NEXT ACTION AFTER FIRST READING. ACTION AFTER FIRST READING. THE STAFF WILL TRANSMIT THAT TO THE STAFF WILL TRANSMIT THAT TO FORWARD PINELLAS THROUGH THE FORWARD PINELLAS THROUGH THE TIER TWO AMENDMENT PROCESS AND TIER TWO AMENDMENT PROCESS AND ONCE THAT PROCESS IS COMPLETED, ONCE THAT PROCESS IS COMPLETED, IT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE IT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR THEIR SECOND CITY COMMISSION FOR THEIR SECOND AND FINAL READING. AND FINAL READING. WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK THE WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK THE ZONING AND THE LAND USE AT THE ZONING AND THE LAND USE AT THE SAME TIME. SAME TIME. SO THAT WILL BE READVERTISED SO THAT WILL BE READVERTISED ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS, AND WE DO EXPECT THAT PROCESS, AND WE DO EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN PERHAPS LATER THIS TO HAPPEN PERHAPS LATER THIS YEAR BUT IF NOT MAYBE EARLY NEXT YEAR BUT IF NOT MAYBE EARLY NEXT YEAR, DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OF YEAR, DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OF THE COUNTY MEETINGS. THE COUNTY MEETINGS. AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. PRESENTATION. >> CHAIR: WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ON >> CHAIR: WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ON >> CHAIR: WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ON THAT?SINGLE-FAMILY >> CHAIR: WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ON THAT?SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE. THAT?SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE. >> CHAIR: AND THE REQUEST IS TO >> CHAIR: AND THE REQUEST IS TO >> CHAIR: AND THE REQUEST IS TO MAKE >> CHAIR: AND THE REQUEST IS TO MAKE IT >> CHAIR: AND THE REQUEST IS TO MAKE IT RESIDENTIAL >> CHAIR: AND THE REQUEST IS TO MAKE IT RESIDENTIAL ZONING >> CHAIR: AND THE REQUEST IS TO MAKE IT RESIDENTIAL ZONING BUT MAKE IT RESIDENTIAL ZONING BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ON IT? YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ON IT? >> THE REQUEST IS GOING TO BE A >> THE REQUEST IS GOING TO BE A >> THE REQUEST IS GOING TO BE A RESIDENTIAL >> THE REQUEST IS GOING TO BE A RESIDENTIAL LOW >> THE REQUEST IS GOING TO BE A RESIDENTIAL LOW MEDIUM >> THE REQUEST IS GOING TO BE A RESIDENTIAL LOW MEDIUM LAND >> THE REQUEST IS GOING TO BE A RESIDENTIAL LOW MEDIUM LAND USE RESIDENTIAL LOW MEDIUM LAND USE WITH A MOBILE HOME ZONING. WITH A MOBILE HOME ZONING. THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF USING THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF USING IT OTHER THAN FOR COMMON AREA OF IT OTHER THAN FOR COMMON AREA OF THE PARK. THE PARK. I THINK MR. DAMONTE CAN TALK I THINK MR. DAMONTE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD -- IN OTHER ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD -- IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S NO INTENTION TO WORDS, THERE'S NO INTENTION TO PUT MORE MOBILE HOMES ON IT. PUT MORE MOBILE HOMES ON IT. IT'S GOING TO BE USED AS COMMON IT'S GOING TO BE USED AS COMMON AREA. AREA. THEY'VE INDICATED THINGS LIKE THEY'VE INDICATED THINGS LIKE OVERFLOW PARKING, PICNIC TABLES OVERFLOW PARKING, PICNIC TABLES AND BASIC RECREATION AREA FOR AND BASIC RECREATION AREA FOR THE PARK, BUT I'LL CERTAINLY THE PARK, BUT I'LL CERTAINLY DEFER TO MR. DAMONTE FOR THAT. DEFER TO MR. DAMONTE FOR THAT. >> CHAIR: SUPER. >> CHAIR: SUPER. >> CHAIR: SUPER. PLEASE. PLEASE. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M JONATHAN >> GOOD EVENING, I'M JONATHAN >> GOOD EVENING, I'M JONATHAN DAMONTE. DAMONTE. I'M COUNSEL FOR GOLDEN ACRES, A I'M COUNSEL FOR GOLDEN ACRES, A RESIDENT-OWNED MOBILE HOME PARK RESIDENT-OWNED MOBILE HOME PARK CO-OP. CO-OP. BRIEFLY THE HISTORY IS BRIEFLY THE HISTORY IS INSTRUCTIVE HERE. INSTRUCTIVE HERE. IN 1959, WALTER AND ROBERTA IN 1959, WALTER AND ROBERTA HARDIN BOUGHT A PARCEL OF HARDIN BOUGHT A PARCEL OF PROPERTY THAT INCLUDES ALL OF PROPERTY THAT INCLUDES ALL OF WHAT IS NOW THE MOBILE HOME WHAT IS NOW THE MOBILE HOME PARK, THE FRONTAGE WHERE THE PARK, THE FRONTAGE WHERE THE BANK AND THE RESTAURANT IS, THE BANK AND THE RESTAURANT IS, THE LAND BEHIND IT, THAT WAS ALL LAND BEHIND IT, THAT WAS ALL THEIRS. THEIRS. THEY RAN A NURSERY THERE FOR A THEY RAN A NURSERY THERE FOR A LONG TIME FROM '59 UNTIL '68. LONG TIME FROM '59 UNTIL '68. IN '63 THEY BOUGHT A HOUSE ON IN '63 THEY BOUGHT A HOUSE ON THE PORTION THAT WE'RE THE PORTION THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN INTEGRATING BACK INTERESTED IN INTEGRATING BACK INTO THE PARK, AND THEY LIVED INTO THE PARK, AND THEY LIVED THERE FOR THE REST OF THEIR THERE FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. LIVES. IN 1968 TO '71, THE PORTION THAT IN 1968 TO '71, THE PORTION THAT IS THE MOBILE HOME PARK WAS IS THE MOBILE HOME PARK WAS BUILT BY THE HARDINS DURING THAT BUILT BY THE HARDINS DURING THAT PERIOD. PERIOD. ALL THE HOMES IN THEIR DATE FROM ALL THE HOMES IN THEIR DATE FROM '68 TO ROUGHLY '71. '68 TO ROUGHLY '71. IN '71, THEY CREATED A IN '71, THEY CREATED A RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THEMSELVES SO RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THEMSELVES SO THEY COULD GET IN AND OUT OF THEY COULD GET IN AND OUT OF THEIR LOT THEY KEPT FOR THEIR THEIR LOT THEY KEPT FOR THEIR HOUSE. HOUSE. IN '86, THEY SOLD THE MOBILE IN '86, THEY SOLD THE MOBILE HOME PARK TO BRANDY WINE REAL HOME PARK TO BRANDY WINE REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST WHICH ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUST WHICH CONTINUED TO OPERATE IT AS A CONTINUED TO OPERATE IT AS A MOBILE HOME PARK. MOBILE HOME PARK. THE HARDINS RETAINED THE THE HARDINS RETAINED THE PROPERTY THEY WERE DEALING WITH PROPERTY THEY WERE DEALING WITH HERE WHERE THE HOUSE IS. HERE WHERE THE HOUSE IS. THEY CONVERTED THEIR THEY CONVERTED THEIR RIGHT-OF-WAY INTO AN EASEMENT, RIGHT-OF-WAY INTO AN EASEMENT, AND THAT REMAINED IN PLACE BEEN AND THAT REMAINED IN PLACE BEEN IN 1992 BRANDYWINE WANTED TO IN 1992 BRANDYWINE WANTED TO SELL. SELL. THE RESIDENTS EXERCISED THEIR THE RESIDENTS EXERCISED THEIR SIGHTS OVER 730 IS RIGHT OF SIGHTS OVER 730 IS RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL OF MOBILE HOME FIRST REFUSAL OF MOBILE HOME TENANTS TO BUY THE PARK AND TENANTS TO BUY THE PARK AND PURCHASED THE PARK AND CONRERTED PURCHASED THE PARK AND CONRERTED IT TO A CO-OP. IT TO A CO-OP. IT WAS A PRACTICAL MATTER, CO-OP IT WAS A PRACTICAL MATTER, CO-OP ALLOWS THEM TO MEET THE TIME ALLOWS THEM TO MEET THE TIME FRAMES OF 723 OF 71. FRAMES OF 723 OF 71. I'VE DONE 40 CONVERSIONS OF I'VE DONE 40 CONVERSIONS OF TENANTS TO MOBILE HOME PARKS. TENANTS TO MOBILE HOME PARKS. THE HARDINS CONTINUED TO LIVE THE HARDINS CONTINUED TO LIVE THERE. THERE. MR. HARDIN PASSED AWAY IN 2006. MR. HARDIN PASSED AWAY IN 2006. MRS. HARDIN CONTINUED TO LIVE MRS. HARDIN CONTINUED TO LIVE THERE. THERE. SHE PASSED AWAY, SHE DID SHE PASSED AWAY, SHE DID TRANSFER THE PROPERTY INTO HER TRANSFER THE PROPERTY INTO HER TRUST. TRUST. IN 2015, THE PROPERTY WAS IN 2015, THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED TO THE CURRENT ZONING OF REZONED TO THE CURRENT ZONING OF FX-M. FX-M. I'M NOT SURE MRS. HARDIN WAS I'M NOT SURE MRS. HARDIN WAS EVEN AWARE OF THAT AT THAT POINT I'M NOT SURE MRS. HARDIN WAS EVEN AWARE OF THAT AT THAT POIND EVEN AWARE OF THAT AT THAT POIND THEIR HOUSE AND IT WAS HER THEIR HOUSE AND IT WAS HER HOMESTEAD, THEIR REGISTERED HOMESTEAD, THEIR REGISTERED HOMESTEAD SINCE 1963. HOMESTEAD SINCE 1963. IN 2019, SHE PASSED AWAY. IN 2019, SHE PASSED AWAY. THE RESIDENTS TOOK THAT THE RESIDENTS TOOK THAT OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY FROM HER ESTATE. PROPERTY FROM HER ESTATE. HER ESTATE WAS REPRESENTED BY HER ESTATE WAS REPRESENTED BY DEBORAH BUSHNELL WHICH YOU ALL DEBORAH BUSHNELL WHICH YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW. PROBABLY KNOW. I WENT TO LAW SCHOOL WITH I WENT TO LAW SCHOOL WITH DEBORAH. DEBORAH. BECAUSE IT WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE IT WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL, THEY DIDN'T WANT IT CONVERTED THEY DIDN'T WANT IT CONVERTED COMMERCIAL SO THEY BOUGHT THE COMMERCIAL SO THEY BOUGHT THE HOUSE. HOUSE. HOWEVER, THE HOUSE WAS IN POOR HOWEVER, THE HOUSE WAS IN POOR CONDITION. CONDITION. IT HADN'T HAD ANY WORK DONE IT IT HADN'T HAD ANY WORK DONE IT SINCE MR. HARDIN DIED IN 2006, SINCE MR. HARDIN DIED IN 2006, SO THEY DECIDED TO DEMOLISH IT SO THEY DECIDED TO DEMOLISH IT AT THIS POINT. AT THIS POINT. WE ALREADY FILED A UNITY OF WE ALREADY FILED A UNITY OF TITLE WITH THE PROPERTY TITLE WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND TAX COLLECTOR. APPRAISER AND TAX COLLECTOR. AS FAR AS THEY'RE CONCERNED IT'S AS FAR AS THEY'RE CONCERNED IT'S NOW TAXED AS A SINGLE PARCEL. NOW TAXED AS A SINGLE PARCEL. UNDER 719, THEY WERE CO-OP UNDER UNDER 719, THEY WERE CO-OP UNDER CHAPTER 719 OF FLORIDA STATUTES CHAPTER 719 OF FLORIDA STATUTES WHICH WOULD ALSO BE TRUE OF 718 WHICH WOULD ALSO BE TRUE OF 718 CONDO AND 720HOA, THEY CANNOT CONDO AND 720HOA, THEY CANNOT CHANGE THE NUMBER OF LOTS CHANGE THE NUMBER OF LOTS WITHOUT 100% ON CONSENT OF THE WITHOUT 100% ON CONSENT OF THE LOT OWNERS. LOT OWNERS. THE HIKELY HOOD OF THEM GETTING THE HIKELY HOOD OF THEM GETTING 100% CONSENT, I CAN TELL YOU I 100% CONSENT, I CAN TELL YOU I REPRESENT A LOT OF COMMUNITY REPRESENT A LOT OF COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, IT'S ALL I DO, ASSOCIATION, IT'S ALL I DO, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 50 AND 100 OF SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 50 AND 100 OF THEM AND CAN'T GET 100% OF THEM THEM AND CAN'T GET 100% OF THEM TO AGREE ON THE TIME OF DAY MUCH TO AGREE ON THE TIME OF DAY MUCH LESS ADDING UNIT. LESS ADDING UNIT. THEY HAVE NO DESIRE TO ADD UNITS THEY HAVE NO DESIRE TO ADD UNITS UNDER 718, 719 AND 720. UNDER 718, 719 AND 720. THE ONLY THING THEY CAN DO THE ONLY THING THEY CAN DO LEGALLY IT TREAT IT AS COMMON LEGALLY IT TREAT IT AS COMMON AREA, COMMON AMENITIES. AREA, COMMON AMENITIES. THEY'LL LEAVE IT AS GREEN SPACE THEY'LL LEAVE IT AS GREEN SPACE OR THEY COULD ADD AMENITIES BUT OR THEY COULD ADD AMENITIES BUT THEY'D HAVE TO APPLY TO DO THAT. THEY'D HAVE TO APPLY TO DO THAT. THEY HAVEN'T DECIDED ON THAT, THEY HAVEN'T DECIDED ON THAT, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE IT REZONED YET BUT THEY HAVE A REZONED YET BUT THEY HAVE A COMMITTEE. COMMITTEE. THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION WILL BE HERE NEXT TIME TO TELL WILL BE HERE NEXT TIME TO TELL YOU ABOUT THAT. YOU ABOUT THAT. SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN CONSIDERATION IS TO SIMPLY LEAVE CONSIDERATION IS TO SIMPLY LEAVE IT AS GREEN SPACE AND I THINK IT AS GREEN SPACE AND I THINK MOST OF IT WILL BE LEFT AS GREEN MOST OF IT WILL BE LEFT AS GREEN SPACE. SPACE. THEY'VE DISCUSSED THEY COULD USE THEY'VE DISCUSSED THEY COULD USE SOME OVERFLOW PARKING. SOME OVERFLOW PARKING. I'VE DONE THIS SEVERAL TIMES I'VE DONE THIS SEVERAL TIMES WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WITH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND THE KIND OF COMMUNITIES AND THE KIND OF THINGS THEY'RE USUALLY LOOKING THINGS THEY'RE USUALLY LOOKING AT, TO PUT PICNIC TABLES OUT AT, TO PUT PICNIC TABLES OUT THERE, MAYBE BARBECUE GRILLS, THERE, MAYBE BARBECUE GRILLS, HORSESHOE PITS. HORSESHOE PITS. A FEW HAVE COVERED PARKING -- A FEW HAVE COVERED PARKING -- SORRY, COVERED PICNIC TABLES AND SORRY, COVERED PICNIC TABLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THINGS LIKE THAT. I HAVE ONE COMMUNITY UP IN PORT I HAVE ONE COMMUNITY UP IN PORT RICHIE WHO IS LOOKING AT PUTTING RICHIE WHO IS LOOKING AT PUTTING IN PICKLEBALL COURTS BUT THEY'RE IN PICKLEBALL COURTS BUT THEY'RE $50,000 APIECE SO I DON'T KNOW $50,000 APIECE SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHETHER THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OR NOT BUT THEY'D HAVE TO COME OR NOT BUT THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR THAT PERMISSION BACK TO YOU FOR THAT PERMISSION ANYWAY. ANYWAY. WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S GOING TO BE WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S GOING TO BE GREEN SPACE OR AMENITIES. GREEN SPACE OR AMENITIES. IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE ANYTHING IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE ANYTHING ELSE. ELSE. >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. DO >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. DO WE >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR >> CHAIR: THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF OR FOR THE APPLICANT? STAFF OR FOR THE APPLICANT? >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR >> I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR JOEY. JOEY. IT LOOKS LIKE IN 2015 THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN 2015 THAT CHANGING OR THAT ZONING CHANGED CHANGING OR THAT ZONING CHANGED TO FX-M. TO FX-M. HOW WOULD THAT HAPPEN, GIVEN HOW WOULD THAT HAPPEN, GIVEN THAT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY ALL THAT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY ALL PART OF THE PARCEL THAT WAS THE PART OF THE PARCEL THAT WAS THE MOBILE HOME PARK? MOBILE HOME PARK? PART OF IT WAS CARVED OUT FOR PART OF IT WAS CARVED OUT FOR THEIR PERSONAL RESIDENTS. THEIR PERSONAL RESIDENTS. HOW WAS IT THAT SECTION WOULD HOW WAS IT THAT SECTION WOULD HAVE BEEN ZONED DIFFERENTLY THAN HAVE BEEN ZONED DIFFERENTLY THAN THE REST OF IT AND POTENTIALLY THE REST OF IT AND POTENTIALLY WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE, EVEN WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE, EVEN APPARENTLY IT SOUNDS. APPARENTLY IT SOUNDS. >> WELL, NO, IT WOULDN'T HAVE >> WELL, NO, IT WOULDN'T HAVE >> WELL, NO, IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN >> WELL, NO, IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN WITHOUT >> WELL, NO, IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN WITHOUT THEIR >> WELL, NO, IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE >> WELL, NO, IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE BUT BEEN WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE BUT I BELIEVE THIS WAS PART OF THE I BELIEVE THIS WAS PART OF THE CITY'S REZONING OF SOME OF THESE CITY'S REZONING OF SOME OF THESE CORRIDORS WHERE THEY WERE, YOU CORRIDORS WHERE THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, FX-Ms ARE RELATIVELY NEW KNOW, FX-Ms ARE RELATIVELY NEW ZONING DISTRICT, WHEN I SAY ZONING DISTRICT, WHEN I SAY RELATIVELY NEW, 12, 13 YEARS RELATIVELY NEW, 12, 13 YEARS OLD. OLD. I THINK IT WAS PART OF THE I THINK IT WAS PART OF THE CORRIDOR REZONING. CORRIDOR REZONING. THEY WOULD HAVE NOTIFIED THEY WOULD HAVE NOTIFIED EVERYBODY. EVERYBODY. THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS, IT'S AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS, IT'S POSSIBLE THEY GOT NOTIFICATIONS POSSIBLE THEY GOT NOTIFICATIONS AND JUST GIVEN THE CONDITION OF AND JUST GIVEN THE CONDITION OF MAYBE THE OWNER AT THE TIME MAYBE THE OWNER AT THE TIME DIDN'T UNDERSTAND MAYBE THE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND MAYBE THE RAMIFICATIONS. RAMIFICATIONS. I REALLY CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT I REALLY CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED. EXACTLY HAPPENED. I KNOW THE CITY DID DURING THAT I KNOW THE CITY DID DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME FROM 14 TO 15 WAS PERIOD OF TIME FROM 14 TO 15 WAS DOING THE FORM-BASED MEDIUM DOING THE FORM-BASED MEDIUM CORRIDOR REZONING. CORRIDOR REZONING. THIS WAS PROBABLY IDENTIFIED AND THIS WAS PROBABLY IDENTIFIED AND THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A BELIEF THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A BELIEF THAT THIS WAS A GOOD FIT AT THE THAT THIS WAS A GOOD FIT AT THE TIME. TIME. CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW, BUT IT CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW, BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN. COULD HAVE BEEN. >> SO MR. HARDIN DIED IN 2006. >> SO MR. HARDIN DIED IN 2006. >> SO MR. HARDIN DIED IN 2006. THE >> SO MR. HARDIN DIED IN 2006. THE REZONING >> SO MR. HARDIN DIED IN 2006. THE REZONING WAS >> SO MR. HARDIN DIED IN 2006. THE REZONING WAS IN >> SO MR. HARDIN DIED IN 2006. THE REZONING WAS IN 2015. THE REZONING WAS IN 2015. MRS. HARDIN DIED IN 2019. MRS. HARDIN DIED IN 2019. SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN HER LATE SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN HER LATE 80s OR EARLY 90s AT THAT POINT. 80s OR EARLY 90s AT THAT POINT. WE ALSO HAVE TO -- I DIDN'T KNOW WE ALSO HAVE TO -- I DIDN'T KNOW HER PERSONALLY, BUT FROM WHAT MY HER PERSONALLY, BUT FROM WHAT MY CLIENTS HAVE TOLD ME, AND I CLIENTS HAVE TOLD ME, AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S HEARSAY, BUT SHE UNDERSTAND IT'S HEARSAY, BUT SHE PROBABLY DIDN'T READ IT OR PROBABLY DIDN'T READ IT OR DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT. DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT. SHE WAS ALREADY IN HER MID TO SHE WAS ALREADY IN HER MID TO LATE 80s BY THAT POINT. LATE 80s BY THAT POINT. YEP, OKAY. YEP, OKAY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. SO >> I HAVE A QUESTION. SO YOU'RE >> I HAVE A QUESTION. SO YOU'RE SAYING >> I HAVE A QUESTION. SO YOU'RE SAYING GREEN >> I HAVE A QUESTION. SO YOU'RE SAYING GREEN SPACE. SO YOU'RE SAYING GREEN SPACE. THEY CAN NEVER BUILD LIKE THEY CAN NEVER BUILD LIKE BATHROOMS OR A POOL OR LIKE A BATHROOMS OR A POOL OR LIKE A LITTLE COMMUNITY CENTER IF THEY LITTLE COMMUNITY CENTER IF THEY WANTED LIKE A GATHERING PLACE? WANTED LIKE A GATHERING PLACE? YOU'RE JUST SAYING GREEN SPACE. YOU'RE JUST SAYING GREEN SPACE. >> IF THEY WANT TO BUILD A POOL >> IF THEY WANT TO BUILD A POOL >> IF THEY WANT TO BUILD A POOL OR >> IF THEY WANT TO BUILD A POOL OR PUT >> IF THEY WANT TO BUILD A POOL OR PUT IN >> IF THEY WANT TO BUILD A POOL OR PUT IN PICKLEBALL >> IF THEY WANT TO BUILD A POOL OR PUT IN PICKLEBALL OR >> IF THEY WANT TO BUILD A POOL OR PUT IN PICKLEBALL OR TENNIS OR PUT IN PICKLEBALL OR TENNIS COURTS, THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK COURTS, THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET PERMISSION TO BUILD AND GET PERMISSION TO BUILD THAT. THAT. >> BUT THEY COULD, THEY COULD >> BUT THEY COULD, THEY COULD >> BUT THEY COULD, THEY COULD BUILD >> BUT THEY COULD, THEY COULD BUILD LIKE >> BUT THEY COULD, THEY COULD BUILD LIKE A >> BUT THEY COULD, THEY COULD BUILD LIKE A COMMUNITY >> BUT THEY COULD, THEY COULD BUILD LIKE A COMMUNITY CENTER BUILD LIKE A COMMUNITY CENTER THERE FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO, THERE FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO, RIGHT? RIGHT? >> THEY ALREADY HAVE ONE. >> THEY ALREADY HAVE ONE. >> THEY ALREADY HAVE ONE. THEY >> THEY ALREADY HAVE ONE. THEY ALREADY >> THEY ALREADY HAVE ONE. THEY ALREADY HAVE >> THEY ALREADY HAVE ONE. THEY ALREADY HAVE A >> THEY ALREADY HAVE ONE. THEY ALREADY HAVE A PRETTY THEY ALREADY HAVE A PRETTY GOOD-SIZED CLUBHOUSE AND GOOD-SIZED CLUBHOUSE AND EXPANDED. EXPANDED. THEY ALREADY HAVE A POOL. THEY ALREADY HAVE A POOL. SO THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN ANY SO THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN ANY OF THAT. OF THAT. AGAIN, TH