Downtown Improvement District "DID" Board Meeting

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Good morning, Jim morning. >> If just spread, remember state your name for the record annual have 3 minutes. >> Jim Lampl downtown City resident, thank you. I'm Mike. Comment is just simply as we walk daily up and down Main Street. We're so concerned about so many empty store rooms. Particularly the one that kriski building with all the trash. And I was sitting in seems to be the dirtiest place to hide out. There must be at least 6 storerooms, I think on main bacon and I didn't see it on the agenda. That's a concern. And I want to do with just that one of these meetings. Thank you thank >> If I could just have sure. Just me to do the new business. >> So first up for new we do have an item which is the grant guidelines and application for the srq a city view camera system. If we >> Back in >> received >> back May. Even before that, the board has had some previous discussions that. >> We're brought up 5 Director Hampshire regarding some camera systems in the downtown and then we had the police chief that gave his downtown report. And at that meeting there was bored consensus that potentially we could develop a program where we could enhance or incentive downtown property owners and or merchants who install camera systems that would register the system. The Sarasota police departments, city views system. So I've gone ahead and prepared a outline of what that program they look like. The did person would need to obviously be a property owner. >> We're merchant. They would have to install a new or upgrade their system. They would then have to follow the process and procedure to get registered with the city tie into their system, follow all the city process and procedures. It's the board wishes to implement this program. You do have in your fiscal year budget and or other grants. You have available funding of $25,000. So what I would be looking for direction whether or not the board wants to go forward with this program. If the answer to that question is yes, I would then be looking for either a maximum dollar amount for this fiscal year for the program and then a dollar amount per application. For what we wanted to do. So with that, I will be able to answer any questions regarding the program. The application, but it's up to the board how they wish to proceed. >> And have a couple questions, Jeff, when the chief came in and articulated his position on this and we were definitely intrigued interested with open carry laws. Now, if you know what concerns me we were trying to as much as we can to record incidents that happened throughout throughout the district and throughout all downtown, actually. So what you know, what? It costs to install this. And, you it's you roughly what would take per store front to either upgrade their system migrate into the Chiefs. >> I I do not. The system is is pretty nice specific what it does in this program is. It's to a vendor on the city Police Department's website and then you put in criteria and information and it kind of walks you through what systems. Potentially could fit your match. So I think they work with who ever is. Inquiring. So I do not have a specific dollar amount of what it would cost somebody to install this type of system. >> So we anybody that got the grant if we chose to do it, if the board chose to do it, the board's pleasure. They would have to reach out to the police department too. >> Correct. They would have to go right to that place yet. That's pretty interesting. Inforcement may help with the homeless situation, especially main street there. was just a addressed to us. I have interest in this because of that it would prevent some crime. And I'm concerned about the open carry law. Now and we may be able to help on this and we have it State Street. And, you know, they have accident out there and they were able record police came. And there are you who's at fault? They want look at the film and took care of the whole thing and 15 minutes. So anyways, I know the other board members feelings, but I'd be interested in trying to enhance the security and safety of downtown that this helps I'd be interested allocating some dollars to if there's any support of most of the board members. Well, my concern is we have there's as Julie mentioned, there's only $25,000 available it. And that gives us really minimal considering how many businesses and store fronts there are out. >> In the city. I I do understand what we need to do it as a whole, but I don't I don't see the the the did. Main responsibility. It's is to enhance the downtown district. Talking about security and enforcement should rely on the city and the city police, the department to work to work. Those details out and I think our dollar should be for all of the didn't board. All the business owners commercial owners to enhance the as in terms of development. So. I don't see how an equitable. This player of dispersants of dollars, even if there's 25,000 due to it and $100, is that really feasible for us to do this bureaucratic paperwork to $400 per person. I so just fans as into the storefront program. I think priority. >> Becoming on the board, it was pretty successful. And that was to $5,000 grant. And it was well received. I thought we do a matching grant situation so they have skin in the game and we match up to a certain dollar amount. Whether it's 1000 hours, maybe we induced 20 members are 15 members downtown to put cameras to bring some safety. And there were in a side of that. Is there any is there is there is are we doing this? I'm sorry because I missed part of that discussion. But >> is here. Are we supplanting something that the city isn't doing ruse it willing to do or doesn't have a private property. The storefronts and what he was the chief. And we hear you've come and what I miss. At it was really informative. And he said that people who had security cameras, they were able to south. I I do know that much, but I what I don't know are they is or what is the plan for police to never tying in that. This would tie into their programs. We have to have to go to them. But you have you. But you have also redo your own. System if it to comply with. I know generally but are they saying, you know, we need the is there in the need know always take. No, it's not just that they were they weren't asking us to do is they were tired of the program. I I wasn't sure where that was coming here. So this is for money. Okay. Came to tell us. I don't think I didn't think But I was town. Yeah. I didn't know presentation. It was about the State of the Union downtown with the police department. Yeah. He spoke about any mention these things and then treat the board that time. We had a little discussion about that exact item. And here it is back at us. So, you know, I'm I'm in favor. So they said. >> Putting matching grant up for certain amount and seeing as we get some traction with this and if it helps in people and we've got some press maybe and maybe the city commission will pick up on it. You know, maybe there's a ways to help the homeless situation and also see what's going on downtown, especially the open carry concerns about that. If it man, think think first of all, you we're not thinking that many people. I mean, my I'm so over camera, you. >> Blink your eye lash. bag. And that led to police come to me and I've had neighbors come bike stolen and solve some problems. So it's a good thing. It's not as expensive as you think and and you know, I am a proponent of this. I think first of all, a worst books or E harmony. But the during U.S. block is 1500 block of Main Street, 14 of 14, 15. Yeah, 14. Sorry. I just gave you 202 run and the way and I think that whatever we do it, it would be a great thing if we. I when I was looking into it, we get the flock cameras and put. 3 cameras would take care of the whole block. One in the park because a lot of stuff happens in the park and the police can. They're not going to necessarily fit monitor it all day. But if something happens, they go back. And if their license plate readers to flock cameras license plate readers so you can catch traffic infractions flights who's making the mess and so on. So I I think if we did one thing is that police and rebut use. It would be to put flock cameras up on that block. >> I will I mean, does it make sense to ask them what they want to specifically on that block? The Senate I I've talked to about this. And I know he's he's problems as we the park. >> We did. We did specifically ask yeah, the chief that question. And if you look at page 6 of the agenda material, we specifically asked that and he responded that. It's the 3rd bullet point on that page. He stated the installation of more cameras would all all ways help law enforcement. However, the mistake made in the past was to build an infrastructure of cameras, but they soon. >> Become obsolete. Given the advancement in technology, the optional approaches to optimize the camera system owned by residents and businesses. The department is actively developing a program that enable citizens to register their home in ring cameras allowing the department to access systems in real time. Hence the reason why. Police department is going to this registered program, which was the reason why we thought instead of the board. Installing their own cameras, this would be a better way to enhance businesses and property owners to register install a camera. They didn't have it because this was the direction Well, I was just going to make a couple comments, OK? So I agree with you, Eileen. The 1400 block. >> Especially on my side is very problematic. And recently I realized that I was wondering why in the alley, the odor of urine is so strong every day, all day, every day, all day. And I'm thinking it's, you know, the homeless. It's this not to realize it's actually the overflow of Smokin Joe's and Brewster's paying an ally. All of their patrons are going in paying in the alley over and over and over again. So I as every week that's an existing problem that it's an existing problem. But nobody from roosters are smoking shows. >> And I respect them all. I want to live in a happy 1400 block of. But at the same time, you know, my stairwell reax and I have my own patrons, you know, using my cell room going in the back shopping or so. I just as everybody knows, you know, redid the store. Therefore, I installed several cameras inside and IM putting 2 cameras on the outside 2 cameras on the front and 2 cameras in the back. And I am encouraging my neighbors to also put cameras out because regularly I have the police come to me. There was something at Smokin Joe's there. You know, etcetera, etcetera, or brewster's a fight, a car accident. This in this not so I had had had cameras outside until now. So and and more and more. I just had one of my neighbors saying, you know, asking the same thing. I want to install more cameras. So this is a need for the merchants. And, you know, we had a rough summer. It's rough out there. I think that something like this would encourage them to install a camera outside of there storefront so that we can have more eyes on our side because there are lots of problems. Just like when Jim said, like the Kress Building, I mean, that's a dead zone. I would hope that someone would put cameras outside of that all. I mean, I it's a bad zone. I I've had to call the police on there from from a guy just passed out. A regular patron passed out bloodied and no one's taking action. Well, I don't disagree you. And I but I'm there are 2 things. One is I'm alarmed that the situation is going on and we're talking about here. >> And nothing getting We're not reporting it. We're not talking to police around having him come in. We're not talking to the people who responsible for clean any of that. So we set up we said, well, let's do something help this, which is just one of the pieces, a problem to me, the most significant is why what what the heck is going on that we are also that happens. You what happens and ends the conversation is here. We need to do something to address that problem. >> Well, now that if I have cameras outside now, I can say, hey, this is actually happening. I understand that and I can go or the police say this is actually happening and they can do it. But right now it's all like here say, you know, it's like I see it, but they're in. But we don't know. You know. so, but but I think that we need to talk about that perhaps a separate subject. But for us to allow just allow the staff, the does negatively impact the merchant and anybody coming downtown downtown. Remember, this is a jewel. Yeah, we want to have here. So. I think we also need it and make it made me take that as a site subject on a separate issue, perhaps to just to address the problems. We already know. We have. So that's I want to just get that with regard to the cameras. My issue has always been and continues to be separating our responsibility from what the city responsibility is. and trying to negotiate and trying to to get them to help us with help us to help the city really. So beef always before I leave into. Yeah. Let's spend this money which we don't even know how much we're talking about. Exactly. Because it's a good idea. Juice. To try see where else we can get assistance with that and not just say, well, we'll do it because it's a good idea. It is a good idea. Cleaning sidewalks every month is a good idea and we're able to negotiate the sit with the city to help us with that. So that's just my thought. We need to to see where else in exactly. Specifically where we need help in particular. We all talk about other 41 about was it has been brought up at the city commission. >> do with it again. This came because that was directed by the board to look into this program. I remember that. my things. Yeah, and. >> Can you cause confirmed a $25,000 in our budget is that for the balance of the series that for next? Sure. That's >> through September of not a lot. A lot of money. I'm and bring up a related subject because it was something that was new to me. >> wasn't aware of. But the police came in and they program. sign up board. They know Darius, your signature and then able to have a police car normally. His skews me. If something happens, they can't. That accuse someone of trespassing unless you signed up for this program. So let me see someone did, but they can't go on your property and get the month. It's way better than that. Big, awful sign. But if you sign up for this, then come. And if they see someone your door way, they can asked him to leave without having to call you and nothing else. Nothing. That's a really good idea for them do it. Signed up for that as use that kind of getting around eyes that that motion I'd like offer a 10,000 are. >> It's a matching grant. So its limits of $500 per applicant May Kuzma 1000 bucks, which probably has enough to get the cameras but the front door. Sue it. See what we can do I mean, she was very compelling and his storyline in ask us for We asked him to come in. He did give it pretty elegant presentation and we've got to help downtown a little bit. That's one of our missions, the safety and security. I believe it's in our. >> Tonight were the most important thing. We have discussion on this. Okay, beef before we get into that. Kind of connects to this. When we talked about a workshop, I might use another concern of mine which is financial here. We don't have a lot of money. And so. We as a board have not ever sat down and said. Something that is more proactive rather than reactive to request. Can we sit down? And, you know, I talked about a workshop and talk about we have now specified very specifically where we want to direct our moneys. are planned right? We have a plan. We know we're going to do women certain things. We don't know how much on anything. We don't know how much too, what if some, but it comes in and says I have this great plan where to help everybody with their store fronts. If you asked most merchants and most responses on on polls are what they want will help them more people. They want more more feet downtown. That's what they say. It's always response ability. So are we doing something using their money the way we intend to? All the merchants. And do we understand that? And are we standing up land to the beginning of the year that says let's allocate. How we're spending the money. How much was facing this right now, the beginning of our our fiscal year, we've had the farmers market come in. We want to give them money. We have this. We want to give them money. >> We're we're like we don't have we don't have any first of we were in the beginning of the year. We don't have a plan which is reacting. To people to come 111. That's good reeling when we did make a plan. I think this before. Most of you guys, we hear people, people. >> Doctor Compean said let's put aside some money. Some of the great idea comes along. We'll have a east. Set aside $300,000. And guess what? City took it so. I advise you feel, you know, a budget plan 2. I mean, that is a plan. And that was a whole. I understand that situation. But I'm just saying we haven't talked about it as as a board. We had this budget. We have the 25 K for a whole year. We've already talked about giving away. A good portion of it. When you think about it, just with 2 people coming up in the first month of the of budget year. So we need to. I we need we do need people the we have money. They want money in the thing as good combination and we want to help him. But we want to make sure that we're >> there's no there's there's not another alternative that maybe storefronts would be more maybe summer programs to bring people into town. There are a lot of things that we haven't even talked about. Okay. So how vote? Yes, that's maybe we need drop more information as well. >> the master planning ideas. Great. Why not? I think this fits in the mission, but I the motion. If I could. And let's revisit it. But Julie, would you find out? How how the integrated systems of the cost of a typical merchant. You know you know, yes, but it's I did a whole hard knocks situation is so I did talk to my guy. So I would have some education on this. >> So he says, you know, between 1400 to I mean, 1400 to like maybe 3 grand, depending on how many cameras you put out. I'm putting out 3. He also mention and this is why we just need more information. I put several cameras inside. So it's about only having the SPD look in your outside. So it's about Sepp or how to separate the inside from the outside. So he was like all. >> How do I just register these without registering your whole system? you know, make he just would have to look into that more I plan on if I can registering mind because I have a lot of situations I go on outside of mice, MySpace, yeah, I definitely I would encourage this since next month is my last month on the board. But I would definitely encourage this and just get more details of fix numbers and or how to separate the outside from the inside. Because if there's no separate, if someone has just a ring camera outside, OK, that's easy. I mean, you want to say something? >> Yeah, for sure. I have that. I have to systems have outside cameras in the back. The outside cameras in the front and they've got the inside cameras and some of the inside cameras pointed out side and the all they're all separate and not. It's just a matter of buying them and it records. And then happens. You look at it. So it's and it's not. not time get more of the registry portion to separate those cameras from all your other ones can't okay. So possible, Julie, I think it was a board like you, please do a little more diligence on this. If we could. >> Understand what it would cost for a typical store front to have just the outside its costs and the vendors that would cooperate with. That's what we always have to do. A kit for the for the for the store owner. You know, here's here's. Here's what your fears the steps you have to take. And here's a little bit of grant. We could potentially give. >> I mean, all right now to of of the store owners in released know if we if they they do it after go through all this with, are they really when they really do it? >> Year ago that we don't take the money. It stars, I know. But I mean, we're trying to make something happen. you that I brought it to the boy. because when I brought it to the brought up the prices. So was it. Those system, you know? Yeah, but this still. Cameras. I mean, it was a different system, but they have different options of prices. >> And again, this was designed to be the simplest form. It's a one page. It's it's it's for the property owner or the merchant to go out in source. Their own cameras said that we are not dictating to them. What camera. >> So for me, the going price out what it would. >> If we get one vendor commend that would explain the system to us. You know, we understand so cheap. Little really so inexpensive, but it's not even consequential. We didn't imprinted on my brain. You know that mean? >> It wasn't it's definitely doable and it definitely pace. If somebody wants to eat because if there are people out there, I don't know how many people have says. >> Systems, right? Again, I would just, you know, would. Really just like the board to decide whether or not it is it a program we want. >> To do or not? Do you know my >> I think it's a program. That's why we do Make a motion to pull the board if that's proper Poe Board. Let's see if interest to pursue this for the next meeting is still here. Correct? The next meeting we make make a potential more data, little more data, little more data. >> And I'm going to say, but the next meeting, I'm not going to be able to pull prices cause every single business is going to be different and in the grand is going to be a set dollar amount like I you know, I'll take what you could. I mean, it's you could just say a percentage will play exactly again. You still don't know what you're you're. I want a little more it here. but how much put aside the money when it's gone? It's We can do approve It's bring on the next agenda bay with a little bit more information. Now talking about Julio. Take that off your plate. We'll get to that information. Okay. Next step is your draft 2020 for 2025? Annual report. As you all know, this is a requirement Hurst, a state statute that is required for all special districts this report must be posted to your website every December. 1st. So you have a draft. >> Of the report in your agenda package. The information. In the report was taking from all of this information sheets that were distributed throughout the balance of the fiscal year in all of the agenda and all of the meetings. So that is information was pulled from. I will entertain comments. feedback from the board. You will get your final report. It will be a few days after the different December. 1st deadline. I think that's okay for the board to approve the report at their December meeting and then we will take this report to city Commission for their acceptance at January meeting when we present board report. All right. What do you need from us? Just comments. >> Concerns thoughts. >> Given to me now later. >> What's your dropped and time on this when you need >> I need it before the final would go out, which would be before the December meeting, which would be December 17. I mean, November 17th. >> Okay. So by November 17 to need our input that okay. we will do that. Okie Dokie. Thank you for getting it together. Yes. >> Okay. Proposed ordinance as we know. We did approve it at our last meeting. So I wanted to give everybody the opportunity to review the changes that were made. >> So in the agenda, material, everything that is highlighted in green grid, the changes that you approved. We will be advertising this in going to city commission for its first reading on December. 1st. I did missed one suggestion that was made by the chair. So if you look at the top page, 34. Of the agenda material. And I will put it on the overhead. So in this section there was a comment. That I inadvertently missed at the last meeting where the request was to defined in amount or a percentage of the budget not to exceed. And this is in relation to to support commercial property owners in their tenants through incentive programs aimed at the improvement or enhancement of commercial spaces in the development and redevelopment of commercial properties to stimulate the economy and activity. So when we looked at in the city looked at this. It's not advised to put a specific dollar amount. Our because any time you do that, in essence, you're held to that. And if you want to change that, increase it decrease. does require another public hearing and an amendment to the ordinance. So the suggestion would if you look at the line item, 71 78 that. Halfway through that sentence by adding the sentence such as and such incentive program Shell be administered in accordance with the written policy that has been approved by the District Board of directors. In essence, do the same thing. Meaning this board would then have to create that policy of what you want it to be. So that would be a workshop action item to actually develop the policy. Of how you are going to go about doing that. Now, whether that's through, you know, a budget process are putting up you know, what percentage or a dollar amount or 3 year budget process. >> But it gives you the ability and flexibility to change a policy without going and changing your ordinance. So that would be the suggestion. So I didn't know what the board spot was on that. So I wanted to bring that back before we move forward with the ordinance to address this aspect of so chair since this was yourself. Have I see? I see your points there. And I I I I think that's a wise move. And thank you for showing that to the city attorney. >> I'm okay with that of a my fellow board. Members are. >> do you need to or use a gorgeous at event and >> that it was not a the newer. And I the policy. >> And we could we get the recommended that that the correct. So we could change or directed. Yeah, right. Rather than having it written, then we have to go back to write commission agree we do need. I think this is too you know, motioned. I think I'm ready to make a motion. Anybody. to to to amend that portion of the ordinance and and that's create a policy really look into But it's really the amendment of the. ordinance right if I'm not mistaken, I just want make sure get the whole thing we have to make the right right. We'll create policy as a result of that amendment. And so I move that we go ahead. the courage and existing pace and meant and approved the amended I am. All of the favor. I I. >> All right. Thank you on that. And again, I'm like I said the goal would be to get advertise for public hearing get this for its first reading at the December First City Commission meeting since that is the meeting in December for City Commission. I anticipated to be quite large. >> So hopefully I can get it on there. I will keep everybody updated and let you know whether or not that is the exact date or not. I will release that this afternoon. So next up, we have our update on Black Friday. >> Are we are we all done with >> have that one change. I had a few questions. I was near last time. yeah. >> So it's a sea item. C on page 38. >> It said this treatment enter into contracts. Agreements or bee suit doesn't buddy corporate do we have insurance? Yes, you're protected. Under the city. Be fun. >> If cyber community as well as that, yes. So when he says also in number to 89 it says. The story. Hubei delegated by the city commission to district are as follows. And the we it looks like we're giving away our right to hire hire staff and giving it to the city Correct. No, you. >> You can hire. City staff and or an independent contractor. But it still goes through this Lee when we had when it in the past. We hired John Moran and the board than it was nothing to do with the city. >> Right. He got some city space, but we did all Lee hiring in. Well, not the firing, but so I'm wondering, like, do we have any say in? Let's see you. You quit. Tomorrow we replace you city. city does that because yeah, we giving that away in this thing that would come in. >> Or we can also has asked the city to hire a. An independent Travis. >> You can hire an independent contractor, but it would go through the procurement process of the pier current process. Yeah. And we John Moran. Is that what happened? I don't think so. >> That was current was the same thing that time. >> No, it wasn't the same. I do think that Kermit was involved in that. But pick your involved any everything. We purchase everything we purchase. >> I mean, the language didn't change we give all that away. >> Will be asleep at the wheel. I mean, like. >> But the language didn't change like we're not changing that part of the language. It even set like above it states the same thing that the district subject to the approval is City Commission may retain an independent contractor or a manager who Shelby, a person recognized with the ability and experience to serve at the pleasure of the board of directors. The district may retain an independent contractor through the competitive procurement. >> Procedure process. So that hadn't changed now. Maybe. Mister Moran was hired before. >> For the ordinance was adopted. I don't know. But that part of that language didn't change. The only thing we added was you could add a city employee. But like if we want to give you a raise or not, now, >> I'm remember it was so >> and you're right. >> Yeah, they did. That was then this is now. I mean, well, I know. But what I'm trying to figure out when did this happen that that the the city has its ordinances, overrides the? >> Our here in our Yes, just to be alright it was on a It was a much more independently. Yeah, I know this is 100%. Yes, because everything and just a little love concerned that the city can do whatever they want. And so basically they can spend the money. They can take our money. They can tell us who to hire. Tell us how much to this. And I wonder like we read and and what we just give them my money. And they have I have to give your money can reduce your taxes. I think we help the city and augment a lot of downtown. Oh, I you would have liked to. that we did. We do have a tremendous amount. would the state really really, by the way, it's. >> That's returning to come up. morning. Did you notice I had State Street. I just drove down and okay, let's not get off meant. >> I I night Palm Avenue looks beautiful with all those lights. And I thought and they're absolutely gorgeous. The real I was so proud of it when I saw too, a look and think you know I did one thing. >> That was really good to great. Okay. We're ready for Black We were okay with we're talking about Black Friday. Now day. >> We're only like 25 days away. Can't believe it. I'm me, please state your name for the record. >> Travers Cornwell, senior Clay experience and tell the manager the next Mark 80 grand next work. So good morning. So our update, I know we talked a few weeks ago, we have a little bit of an update for you on since the last we've gotten a lot more merchant involvement. So I know we are around that the 9 mark. So we have 26 officially signed up so far that have shared deals and their hours and their logos and promotional items. So it is fantastic news. So we're keeping track of that on a spreadsheet as well as the budget and social spending to pivot into Social. We are right now currently building a schedule and have things going out on our criteria system along with, you know, fresh Friday stuff and did is we have a lot to talk about for the did Social. So there's post, you know, once or not, if not twice a day. So we've been getting some sharing the deal, sharing the news letter just went out yesterday you know, 10 merchants that are involved and we plan on writing another 10 and then breaking them up into no retail. Here's the retail deals. Here's the restaurant deals. Things like with social lapping right now with the chamber. So tagging them. They're getting that out to their channels. Same as you have a big. Absolutely case. And then I know we talked about influencers. So we have some meetings coming up with some influencers, have some pricing there. So that's within our budget. So that's great. we're trying to do you know, one to 3 videos, whether be some stories, some reels, things like that to just help promote and get out to their for the consumers to come down and shot down and explore our beautiful district. As far as the ads were working on securing those print and digital ads as well with some publications. So really, that is a lot of the update of what we have. You know, we're again in right around probably this week, if not next week is kind of our drop dead date to the guide printed and the bag and the permits are all approved and everything. So >> they're not in hand hand but it looks like they're they're they're they're they're they're very, very close. with you guys have any questions or any other update that's really on what we have. It's great to know that the merchants are actually involved in and filling out the sign-up form and everything. >> We've got a lot to talk about. A lot of great deals. >> I'm sure is a lot like me. I'm already, but I haven't said that The sooner the better it is and I I think that they're doing a great job. There's a lot of details and it's really I look at this is just the beginning of Black Fridays every year we should have a have a weekend thing like with this weekend, there's a small. >> Smaller Saturday at a small Saturday. >> Yeah. Which is like the next day. So I mean, this could have been like a big if we put them together. We could have been done done a whole shopping including both days. To send a that people maybe late June. >> Yeah. So when that hours vary of you doing each each merchant, >> involved will get of black balloon to people would be to look at the black balloons because that's where the deals are. >> Yeah. But the DJ to get your bag and to get the guide and everything that will be going around from like 9 to 3 in the afternoon. That's where we have like the permits set up and everything. one of the chamber, there was some of their ambassadors to kind of, you and that tent and everything. So that will be a day. The fun. >> It will. >> Any other questions or seeing you guys. I was in LA not for a fun vacation, but I happened to be in this small community like. >> Like Sarasota. And it was Halloween Eve. I mean, like late afternoon mid afternoon. And it's a very the youngish residential area. All all the people on the streets of with it, whatever kind of business they were in, all of people were out on the star operators were out with with treats and they're all the little kids in the neighborhood came in trick or treat it on. >> It was so cute. And the parents were there with them and they were dragons and ferries and all because of going up and down the streets. In the end, it was the merchants who had, you know, Candy is out for the kids. That's So think like I arm doing that now is is still doing that right I think there's. >> There they did the Halloween. It's it's really great. especially the parents go >> yeah, much. This is on. It is part of Yeah. >> Anything else on Black Friday? >> And ideas or thoughts, guys? Anything? >> Okay. Do it for anything do it for. We're price We're doing wine like I know the says Yeah, that you yeah. We're doing wine. A cut price. >> And and something I don't Rough time. I But I have yes, yeah, he did send it to me and it's Yeah. We're promoting it as Pink Friday. We will do our campaigns. I think you yeah, I'm doing a wind wind carrying bags made carpet. Those are actually, that's right. the last minute you'll know. Haha. >> All you see it, you'll know when you see it. Yeah. Well, glad. >> Everybody. I did not hear from bricks. Yeah. So that's the right now. >> I did touch him. A guy I did to you did to the link. So from coming to I did talk with him as well and we'll know I checked Friday. So I will remind them and look, and that link again. So yes, OK, those 2 as But is it again? Give a car way of rent them? It. >> That's the raffle. >> More. All right. Pay the >> OK, moving on to our merchant >> you can fit this all on. Julie. I can show that the Delray one, I guess I know they have the one in front of them This one zoom out. We've got the win in front, but give you guys a little comparison of the Delray one that got >> it certainly would need a pair of glasses to RIA. Yeah. >> Even some of you can see now and now he's, you know, it's >> in quick. Yeah. That's perfect. Thank you. >> So this was when you brought this up. This was kind of what the Delray map looks like. So we kind of can kind of a tear off. It's all the same size, little 11 by 17. I'm still has the color coding of all the streets with the copy. As you can see on the Delray map. And, you know, kind of was a state like West and things like that. So we have all the street's main street Palm first all the trolley stops as well as the where the parking garages are. And I I think the focus years really trying copy this down, right, that that was the the guidance and the thought process behind >> And so looking for feedback on that is where one of what the market building is not color particular is while the other buildings are colored, the mark section is colored. >> The might have to see it. you can your map. We can change Yeah. It's labeled states are either a year Trump put the the this map on the overhead. This is this is the doubt I Those are first 2 Yeah. This issue is listed right Looks like Pineapple. there. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. That's That's what I'm looking for. A cat that got the. And so and the mark and State Street. Will these be able parking You miss rest of State Street? Well, I think great. I know that that is yeah. That will be the yet. That is the State Street. This is just like a random comment. The maybe like where the bay I know it's out of our district, but so is like you have the Atlantic Ocean. That's so cute. Like maybe put like. >> JD Hamill Parker are bayfront like something. You know, we we also have the ocean, you know, and I think that's important to. >> Absolutely right. And we are so close yet so we can out a bit and kind how del Rey has, because I know the water is going to be down here. Yeah. Yeah. Is it just makes it U.S. is here Will this be folded? I mean, because it's it's it's just like >> We're a good like harmony with have. Where would you put such a large lights So it? >> In the microphone, please. Wayne in the microphone saw this in the hotels they have by the cast. Your stand one by the checkout station. People were grabbing this to pull off. It was terror. tears off and walked out the door with it and they're pointing and looking young people, old people and those people use this. But I'd watch this for 3 days, which is great and love it like that. to have where would we were with a retailer? >> Put this on there check out area minutes. That's all you put it there. But really, I thought I thought maybe the hotels would drive lot of this. The counts here. That's the hotels. And that's where I sought. That's right. Is that actually and and yeah, we get this at the airport anywhere. Can we can we do this? I like at the at at the rental car. Safe at the rental car stations as usual. They have their own maps. Could we see if we can talk to some of the mental state? Yes, we have a contact so they give them their own map give them one of I think that the great magic the tells you get really light up downtown. Probably spoke with Was buzz. Good luck. Good to have one ring, the Jack because >> you'd be amazed how many people use the Bikes come up and carpets. >> You know how much those posters cost when you come down the escalators and airport get off the plane. One of those posters right yet not on my head, but I we when we did the Bay Runner when we had little tri-fold and they get in for the bid as well, correct? We did. So. We were in we're in the airport. We went out to the hotels and in a blitz. And then we also had dropped him off at a businesses around the did. One of those lost, right? So we can kind of do the same thing. I think that's the same vision. Yeah. But put our shopping district. What's restaurant's? This is where you had to, you know, share off the planes and, you know, are rice turned out here where they go. Okay. Great. Thank you. Yeah, I have a question that has to do with logistics. We can get these I guess somebody is going to drop a month everywhere. I don't know who that would be. >> We can then somebody is going to also have to be the recipient of phone calls when they say over out of them. Was going to do that. That's me and replace them and restock them. And all that says you do it. Yeah. I know I thinking about that. because I was on me. But it does. >> And Julie lets us know. Hey, we need more we get them. We get it taken care of and we get them out to the merchants who need them. So, yep. >> And the big hotel they right. Yeah. Yeah. So I just want think find out who's just yet. And I would only recommend on Palm Avenue. There are a few restaurants there. So we could add a couple. >> I know you've got galleries antique dealers. Let's go blue takes. Look because of the Miramar. Several have gone. They're they're they're they're no longer there. So, but I know across the street, there are a few restaurants. >> Yeah, that's other thing printing of getting the Information Act. Brett Lee, who is going to do that? Yeah. >> on a semi will will get an updated. And you know, if there's any changes than, you know, we've got the files to do so. >> So >> we probably have to have a contact name or number on the path order to reorder or 2 de Pere wrecked you stores, clothes or whatever things change yet we can put like on the footer. >> Yeah, the screen. But yeah, the foot or if you need more contact. Yeah. Questions or any at that. Sign up for the newsletter. Yeah, I think that we have a QR code to the merchant directory. So we've some call to actions on there with the website and different things like that yet. Yeah, I think way time on. I know. So can we get it? A motion from somebody. >> To approve the map in concept. To move forward with a final with all of the. Additions per. But we've discussed. And then in a separate motion. We made a recommendation to look into additional advertising expenses. So if that is something that the board wants to consider, I would try. We need talk about this. >> You know, get in get in kind of get into airport I've been trying and we live in a So I was able to get to obtain something for me. What I think 2 years and it's it's very minimal. Okay. That capacity. >> Yeah. And we can check on we in the video. Yes, that is probably a But again, we can check. But as far as having it at like checkouts are at the visitor centers up, we can probably have them there. They have rent a car with these Yes. >> As your wrist and these are all got a good point contest. There. >> I think they do. Yeah. So there's there's probably opportunity there on the as far as like the video, Mister, not but never know. And so well ask. >> don't know what it did for me, frankly, that the judge there for. And tell you. >> So we just need a motion on this and then we will bring you back to the final with the exact cost. >> For printing motion to approve the next step in the downtown discover map. And >> what else do that and to move forward with the exact cost for printing. >> Zach roster bring place, you know. The second I all in favor, aye. motion passes. Thank Thank On plane. thank you. Thank you. >> OK, since our last meeting, I don't have any invoices or to update you on the budget. It's it's the exact same. None of the bills ball I should say. Actually, the bills are just now starting to come in October show. That will be updated at your at your next board meeting. So we have the downtown master plan update. Well, we meet tonight. >> And hopefully tonight we are going to get some information on the. I guess they're called the the candidates that are have been selected. The first round deters. Yeah. The vendors so up to know we have not known who might be. So it's going to be kind interesting. Committee themselves really don't have any involvement in the evaluation committee. The evaluation just fy I is done by for city staff members. And 1, member from our committee. They all the interviewing and then they do. the fun of select the selection of that. I know We'll have that information tonight. Just nothing more about them at point. I don't think. But just who they are was the matter that's going to represent. Mark, I'm a I'm Melissa La fun. So. That's where the process is right now. After that, that goes, they going to. Their evaluation. And during that time, there's no discussion. We as a team will be probably talking about the kinds of things that we want to learn. as we talked to actually learn about this and and put together the plan. It's actually revision of the plan. Are you mean to? To see is a great for me. Yeah. So anyway. So that's where we are. But it's an interesting process, really at this point, we've just gone through procurement. They can see money. When did you statements? Yes, yes. It's interesting. Yeah. Anyway. So that's where we are on that basis. I hope next me maybe we'll know more. Any other director comment here? >> Yeah, I I want to back to the comment that harmony was making. And and and Eileen, about the state, the 1400 block. Because like I really do think it's it's wrong for us to sit here and say yes to mess So we've done that for months. Mother for years without What can we do about it specifically? It's that is really I mean, it's not anything like State Street, for example. You know, Monday or Palm Avenue right? Or for Yeah, you're very special. but I think the question I would have is like, what can we do if we had a tidy list of the things that our very routine, the kinds of things that you just shared and took it to the commissioner ticket too, the mayor or someone just say, hey, this is an ongoing issue. part of a mandate is to make right this. yeah. And I think this I think one of the city's basic. >> Probably a a responsibility should be clean and safe. I think lean in safe. I mean, at least that. >> It's also the Comer, the the private commercial others that of the businesses find if they're if they're if we're able to. To 2 record some of the patrons doing what they're shouldn't harm harmony or any other local businesses around there because of the stench. And it really should go back to the business owner of those of those establishments. Yeah, well, the property owners and that sentiment. >> Well, Chris Brown, I'm Eric Baird owns the Kress Building to look and I would incur I would encourage anybody that knows him and I'm going to single out each one individually. But the Kress Building, you know, I pay someone to power, wash my sidewalk and my building once a month. And then, you know, we do with the city, does it, but I do it the beginning of every month. The fact that he that it goes the cleanliness is a huge problem on at the Kress Building. You know, and if if he just had somebody like I do, power wash, I mean, unfortunately, he would probably need it more than me because I'm more like in my building and we'll clean my building up. you know, like, for example, also when I was doing all work, I had to be there at night time. So I would go at 9 close my business. There's 2 police officers standing where Bluemercury is. I'm having a parking for the Kress Building. This got Ickes. I said. He's probably of hate. He didn't look, you know. Homeless but patron, bloodied all the way down his arm, pass out in the crack in the press building and the 2 police officers are just, you know, hanging by the Gator Club, which I get it. But no one's. Going around the block. And and so I waved at them, guide them to get him out or whatever. How many people walked by having dinner with us? It's like such a bad like I take. As you all know, when I got on the sport, such pride in being part of the downtown as a long-term business owner. And I look at that and I'm like that turns people off their like of this place is dirty and just by, you know, yes, there was police presence, but we need to encourage them to keep walking around, pass those bars and then get a hold of the property owners. 2 clean their things. And I'll talk to my you know, I'm very friendly with the guys that brewster's. They probably don't even know it's happening or I don't know. I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt and just say, hey, this is now I realize this is a problem and I will get them on camera. But, you know, we need to make it in attention to the city commission because it is a problem. One gone a little really? Where does responsibility lie? >> With more things like that, there's also, Jim Lampl mentioned, there are a lot all empty storefronts. I don't even know honestly, if there's any kind of ordinance about just keeping what to do with empty they make the city. It's like Buddy own some. The not yet, but they're not being tended to the right to within the store some responsibility well as or an ordinance. It that that's a run step is stale and >> he's suing the people that. This is word on the street. Well, you know will happen, meaning that the nothing is being built there, the guy that was going built, the bourbon Steak house is out and it's been sitting like that for, you know, months. The warning round of the well know that Eric Yeah. So they're so they're out to mourn. They're out. What can we act actually address and identify where there is responsibility? If there's an ordinance, not an ordinance, it do. >> If there's somebody responsible for the general cleanliness. I don't really know any of that. >> I don't know if there's an ordinance regarding an empty storefront, but I can check they don't. ING in code compliance a long can you go with a boarded up window next to you when and it started before death. But we don't have it it's a bad, bad luck. So. I here we are talking about redoing the city. We're talking streetscape. >> And we have these issues that we are really good people. Yeah. if we could find that that would be And then, you know, if it's there, it is not being We can go to commission and asked for their all to the saying the audience knows anything about the veterans >> What do you think from Ation? >> And that landlord is suing the person. Sometimes the audience very I just had that and we have some answers for me. >> And that Eric is suing the person that. >> Okay. So I will inquire with zoning or code. And I will also see if I can schedule them to maybe attend the next meeting and see if we can get some some answers to Be good to have coating some of the complaints about code. Absolutely. It was not to always least. Colin, nobody ever does anything. It clean that up. >> Even when you do the quick fix to do it. But it goes well, it yeah, you know, so like you not job number >> That's all I had really I know we talked we didn't talk about special event. Now. It's it's on my that day. Well, any other board member. Yeah, tell you, we have well, it's not done yet because my meeting is this afternoon. >> With them with the city, but we hoping to go ahead with the Christmas Palm Avenue. And there are of Billy 5 other in cities in the U.S. who have a Christmas markets. This is being done by the same person. That doesn't mean Germany and we're going have skating. I gating a music family huge screen and the is that what Enders night? Its logo? The proposal we haven't admission to but the proposal, which I think is all right, is. Friday night 5 to 9 Saturday. You don't. 9 till 9 and Sunday. Something like 11 to 5, you know, so Sunday will be short. And that really shouldn't. Stopping the businesses should actually help. That's my hope that will bring lots of people to Palm Avenue and one of the proposed dates. The second week of that the city had said to death of if we consider having it first Friday. Because they thought it would help with tree lighting not to do it within just seemed to me. Well, first of all, parking will be a problem. And second, I just think it's too we don't want to compete with I don't want to compete with the did. >> Is that north and palm or just stuff? >> only affection for this year because we have to see how it works. I don't want to totally lose my shirt. At the moment. It's for the of one faction of Palm. If successful this year, the one is it's the it's a little trial pace for how for doing it next year. way ahead and do the whole Palma Avenue. whole of South Palm next year. I don't know if a new if anyone wants to do more. We can certainly look at it. So cue. >> going to We're going to have a Santa and you can take a picture of a child. >> Oh, yeah. And I'm with you or your dog because the more dogs than kids who went with the bus. So when do we need to go get approval or wind? If you I'm this afternoon. Wonderful. >> we have an issue. Somebody with 2 people were sick. >> To keep people hospitalized at different times our planning. But anyway. I >> Okay for my items I put in your agenda 2026 propose meeting I incorporated some workshop. Dates in I would like. >> Everybody to kind of review that. So that at the next meeting we finalize that in approved that. >> So that's at the last meeting, there some discussion whether or not there was a need or the ability to schedule a workshop between now and the end of the year. So I have included November December calendar in your agenda packages with some of the meeting Some of you know, holidays commission meetings, events going So I don't know what the board's position is, whether or that is still an option, whether the board would. >> Wish do a workshop. And if the board does, then the second step would discuss because we would have to post topics for an agenda. >> So they're to issue 2, 2, items here. One is approving a regular meant meeting schedule. >> No, the first one is just to give you a draft so you could take it home. Look at it. Review it. See if it's, you know. What you think? So you can compare it to your what you might think for next year and then will approve it at the next meeting. So for today, so for today, it's whether or not the board wants to have a workshop between now and the end of the calendar year. And if you do that November schedule is included in your package. And that's the date we would have to decide today. OK? And that's on page. 61 is the calendar. Okay. my initial thought on that is that it would be good to do it, maybe for severe in January may meeting. We'll have a new board member or to possibly possibly. So it would be a good time for that. That board of that to to to talk about things and talk about how we want to spend the money and I I would like to implant a hope to pursue more partnerships with the chamber. We've talked about summer programs and doing things, you know. Went so dad year. How can we live in a so? There are a lot of things that we can talk about that. >> I do, I have scheduled one for January 6, which would first January meeting when the new board would be. That's yeah. >> Me and I leaned up for renewal. >> We'll have an epiphany. The So so that's my thought. what you think. That would be January 6 is we're looking >> January 6 is the first Tuesday of the New Year's meeting. >> I will I will be able to attend that meeting. 6, >> I mean, January 6 that you're leaving right after that. You know, I'm I have I'm here on the 5th. >> Okay. And then perhaps if you give me 24 hours we'll see if I can re re address that. >> OK, and if not, then maybe I'm at. The next meeting. We need to just look for a different. Workshop date in January to make sure that everybody would be here for that first meeting in since it's a workshop we can adjust great. So I'll get with you, Ronnie, if you can't just call me so that I can adjust the schedule today. Okay. So what we all in consensus that there's no workshop between now and the end of the year. in addition to take a look at this, Callan could because this does tell you what everything that is going on. >> You will see our next meeting is the second. The light up the night is the 5th. OK? The other thing I do have on here is the proposed special event It is as far as I know, still going to be on the Monday November 17th meeting. I had. Grand hopes to have a copy of the agenda item for everybody today. But it has not been released yet. I'm hoping by the end of the day, the agenda schedule and we'll be out and I can forward it to everybody. But as of right at this moment, I do not have it. I cannot go give it to I'm trying to decide how long that thing's been going on. >> He's been a long time. but I'm looking forward to it. That's a of that. >> I will again remind everybody that, there are 2 potential seats on the board Harmony seat is going to expire. I'm Eileen seat is up for should she choose to put in her application at this point in time? We do have 4 applicants that submitted. Those will go to City Commission for consideration at their December. First meeting, any that wishes to apply must have theirs in by the end of Tuesday. The 11th, what happens to be Veterans Day? I know the city is closed, but it's all online because that agenda has to posted by the end of the week. So just in Fy eye on that. And their first meeting would be the January meeting. Okay. Just so, you know. So for the next gender, I do have the final of our annual report. I do have the potential of talking about the flower baskets. I don't know if that's something the board wants to talk about at a meeting or you want to workshop. It. I'm totally up to you. There are some decisions to make as far I know during the budget, there were some considerations of trying how to cut costs and that, as you know, we have a lot construction going on in the district specially long. The Miramar. I think we 5 or 6 baskets there. So one of the questions is going to be do we want to relocate those baskets to we want to treat on that or take those baskets down and say that cost. but you know, the at this, they're not demolishing the building. There was storing it. >> Correct, but I think it might look nice to be an extra for those guys. Do. It will be dusty. It will be so so I'll put it on the next so that we can make a decision on those. I will have some updates. Remember, we have 3 items sitting in procurement. >> That have all closed there or not finalized. But we have marketing. >> Our marke