School Board Special Meeting

Page 1 Minutes July 18, 2023 Special Meeting - 10:00 AM Manatee County School District 215 Manatee Avenue West Bradenton, FL 34205 www.manateeschools.net Times Indicated Are Approximate 1) CALL TO ORDER Attendee Name Status Dr. Jason C. Wysong, Superintendent Rachel Sellers, Deputy Superintendent of Business Services Gina Messenger, Board Member Mary Foreman, Board Member Stephen Dye, Board Attorney Chad Choate, Chair Cindy Spray, Vice-Chair Richard Tatem, Board Member Present Minutes: Chair Choate called the Meeting to order 10:01 AM. 2) PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Minutes: Chair Choate led in the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance. 3) AGENDA AMENDMENTS 3.1 Agenda Amendments RESULT: Adopted [UNANIMOUS] MOVER: Gina Messenger SECONDER: Cindy Spray AYES: Gina Messenger, Cindy Spray, Mary Foreman, Chad Choate, Richard Tatem Minutes: The Chair found good cause to amend the agenda to include: Agenda amended on Friday, July 13, 2023, to add attachment to New Business Item, Approval of the Appointments, Change of Assignments, Promotions, Reappointments and Reassignments. 4) APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA RESULT: Adopted [UNANIMOUS] MOVER: Cindy Spray

Page 2 SECONDER: Richard Tatem AYES: Gina Messenger, Cindy Spray, Mary Foreman, Chad Choate, Richard Tatem 5) PUBLIC COMMENT AND RESPONSES (UP TO 30 MINUTES) Minutes: There were no requests for public comment. 6) NEW BUSINESS 6.1 Approval to Advertise a Notice of Public Hearing to Adopt Tentative Millages and Tentative Budget for Fiscal Year 2023-2024 RESULT: Adopted [UNANIMOUS] MOVER: Gina Messenger SECONDER: Mary Foreman AYES: Gina Messenger, Cindy Spray, Mary Foreman, Chad Choate, Richard Tatem Minutes: Ms. Rachel Sellers, Deputy Superintendent of Business Services, provided a handout and discussed the proposed advertisements. She noted that the purpose of the item was for the Board to authorize running the advertisements to notify the public of the Public Hearing on July 25, 2023, which would begin the official budget process. Ms. Sellers explained the timeline, noting that the certified Required Local Effort (RLE) would be received from the Florida Department of Education by July 19. The Board asked questions and held discussion. Ms. Sellers responded and provided additional details. Following a question from Board Member Foreman, Ms. Sellers stated that the Board would be provided with a digital copy of the Tentative Budget on Thursday afternoon, July 20. Board Members Spray, Tatem, and Foreman requested a paper copy. 6.2 Approval of the Appointments, Change of Assignments, Promotions, Reappointments, and Reassignments Minutes: Chair Choate noted that the item would be divided into three separate votes. 6.2a. Approval of Mr. Derek Jensen to Serve as Deputy Superintendent of Instructional Services RESULT: Adopted [UNANIMOUS] MOVER: Mary Foreman SECONDER: Gina Messenger AYES: Gina Messenger, Cindy Spray, Mary Foreman, Chad Choate, Richard Tatem Minutes: At the request of Chair Choate, Superintendent Wysong provided an overview of Mr. Jensen’s accomplishments, qualifications, and work experiences. 6.2b. Approval of Ms. Pamela D’Agostino to Serve as General Counsel of the School District of Manatee County RESULT: Adopted [4-0] MOVER: Gina Messenger SECONDER: Cindy Spray AYES: Gina Messenger, Cindy Spray, Chad Choate, Richard Tatem

Page 3 Minutes: Superintendent Wysong provided an overview of Ms. D’Agostino’s work history, accomplishments, and qualifications. Board Member Foreman stated that she would abstain from the vote, noting that Ms. D’Agostino had given a legal opinion on an agenda item for the County that would impact property that she owns. Board Member Foreman provided a signed Form 8b from the Commission on Ethics. Board Member Spray requested a one-on-one meeting. 6.2c. Approval of the Promotion of Mr. Joseph Ranaldi to Serve as Dept Supt of Operations RESULT: Adopted [UNANIMOUS] MOVER: Gina Messenger SECONDER: Mary Foreman AYES: Gina Messenger, Cindy Spray, Mary Foreman, Chad Choate, Richard Tatem Minutes: Superintendent Wysong shared that Mr. Ranaldi has held successful leadership positions in four school districts in Florida and discussed his qualifications, work experiences, and accomplishments. Chair Choate congratulated Mr. Ranaldi who was in attendance. 20) ADJOURNMENT Minutes: There being no further business to come before the Board, Chair Choate adjourned the Meeting at 10:37 AM. ______________________________ ______________________________ Dr. Jason C. Wysong, Ex Officio Secretary Chad Choate, III and Superintendent of Schools Chairman NOTICE Any person who desires to appeal any decision made by the School Board with respect to any matter considered at the above-mentioned meeting will need a record of the proceedings, and for such purpose may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which an appeal may be based. School Board meetings are held in accessible locations. Auxiliary aids will be provided, upon written request received at least 48 hours prior to the meeting, to participants with disabilities.

1. CALL TO ORDER 2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE 3. AGENDA AMENDMENTS 1. Agenda Amendments - added July 13, 2023 4. APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA 5. PUBLIC COMMENT AND RESPONSES (UP TO 30 MINUTES) Public comment is not an open forum to discuss matters unrelated to education, to support or oppose candidates for public office, or to engage in commercial speech attempting to sell a service or product to the School Board or public. Also, public comment is not a forum to attack individual school system employees or Board Members. Any such complaints should be submitted in writing to the Superintendent for appropriate handling. Finally, this is not a forum for addressing issues involving individual students. Because of privacy concerns, such issues should be submitted in writing to the Superintendent for appropriate handling. Each speaker is allowed three minutes to address the Board. Speakers must stand at the podium and not approach the dais. This is a business meeting of the School Board and the public expects that we conduct it in an orderly, efficient, effective and dignified manner. We request that speakers keep this in mind when making your comments. We also request that the audience keep that in mind and not demonstrate approval or disapproval of what a speaker has said by clapping or booing. The Board appreciates the public's input and will listen attentively, consider each comment, and usually will not respond, enter into debate, or answer questions during comments on agenda items or during the public comments section. PUBLIC INPUT INSTRUCTIONS: 1. Before you begin speaking, please provide any handouts to the Agency Clerk. 2. Please identify yourself only by your full name for the record. 3. You have no more than three minutes to speak. Please stop speaking when the bell rings. 4. Florida Law requires all citizens to conduct themselves in an orderly fashion at public meetings. 5 . WARNING: Any individual who interferes with the expeditious or orderly process of a School Board meeting, will be subject to removal from the meeting pursuant to Section 1001.372(3) Florida Agenda Updated July 13, 2023 July 18, 2023 School Board of Manatee County School Board Special Meeting - 10:00 AM Walter Miller School Support Center Board Room Times Indicated are Approximate 1

Statutes at the discretion of the Chair. Orderly fashion is deemed as, at a minimum (1) no profanity (2) no vulgar language (3) no discourteous, disrespectful, or disparaging conduct. 6. NEW BUSINESS 1. Approval to Advertise a Notice of Public Hearing to Adopt Tentative Millages and Tentative Budget for Fiscal Year 2023-2024 2. Approval of the Appointments, Change of Assignments, Promotions, Reappointments, and Reassignments - Updated July 13, 2023 7. ADJOURNMENT 2

>> Good >> morning, everyone. Welcome to a special meeting this morning of the school board of Manatee County. 2023 in other 2? That's a beautiful morning here in County. It is a wet one this morning. So I want to go and let stand for the Pledge of allegiance. So pledge allegiance to the >> for with hands, one nation under indivisible, with and for all. >> I want to move to agenda amendments to Cherry found good cause to amend the agenda, to include all items listed and urgent amendments on the 7/18/2023, agenda updated 7/13/2023 imposed on the district website. Meet the schools dot net. Do we have a motion to accept those amendments so moved? Now that a motion and one of those could be a second is well taken. We can go ahead and cast your vote on granting to us. But my voting for me, I'm not in the end. Yes, do. Minutes. The past 5 to 0. Moving on to approval of the agenda. The motion. I'll second second. It. To approve the agenda. And we can go ahead and vote on the approval to the >> now. Almost there. You get it on. Did. >> That motion passes 5 to 0. Moving on to public comments. Any public comments in all know. So skipping public comments move on to item number 6, new business, which is why we're here for today. Approval to advertise a notice of public hearing to dot the tune of millage is intended budget for fiscal year. 23. 24 stupidity of recognition for us. >> Good morning CHAIRMAN. Yes, I recommend approval to advertise notice of public hearing to adopt tentative millage is and a tentative budget for fiscal year 2023, 24. >> It was in sync. All right. I second. Yeah, we have a motion. We have a second. Do we have just got missed? Sellers would like to come up and congratulations. Doctor Weiss on very first was a good one one to fund this. Thank you. >> Well, good morning. All So there's a section in the Florida statute that governs adoption of the military. And this is called the truth in millage trim and it gives a specific short timeline. So starting on JULY 1st is when the district receives the tax value from the tax collector and by JULY 19 dot is to use that information to recalculate the required local effort to the district which then starts a lot >> finishing work that the district does behind the scenes to be able to have next time frame, which is in 24 from JULY. First, the board is required to authorize the district to run an ad of the millage rate. And so this year we plan to run that ad on JULY. 21st this coming up Friday. So we need the board today to authorize us to run that advertisement and the real purpose of the advertisement is to know notify the taxpayers of public that people have next week Tuesday, JULY. 25 to present the tentative millage rate and the discussion of the tentative budget. So today's action is to go But the authorization to run the advertisement. This kicks off the official budget after once we get the information from doing as far as what the local effort is. We then will submit the to the newspaper the Morning of JULY 20 for publishing on the 21st and by that afternoon, we're expecting to be able to provide to the board that tentative budget book and we can have it downloaded into the system. We can also have it to you guys and I'm along with the power in peak for board review so the paper copy we're expecting will probably be available on Monday, JULY. 24, since district is closed this Friday on the 21st. >> The only thing mean, we as if you'll be guaranteed, they're going to give us that information. >> Yes, they're required by by statute to have it done and they always do it. So it usually comes in at the end of that date. So on the end of JULY 19, we'll start working with that. We have given you guys the copies handouts of those particular ad that will run. You'll notice some red notations on it. We've already given it to the Department of Revenue to do their review. And the only thing pending now as they understand that that are led is something that's going to be provided to us on the 19th. Well, then send it back to them. Before we send it to publishing to And they've been a department of revenue has been very quick to but the but their approval. >> We have a board members lit up, you know. >> You basically asked I wasn't asking really about just that early in. All right. You answered. I thank you so >> Good morning again, the sellers, maybe you could explain or even move. Maybe MISS Former someone whos whose have more experience in this area. So I've been going to my f s p a finance conferences, learning all this stuff. But if we could look at the and document the says Notice of Tax for school Capital outlay. >> That was an attachment to the yeah. Here. So the top it says the school district of Manatee County, Florida will consider a measure to continue to impose a 1.5 mill property tax for the capital outlay projects listed here in. Is attacked that is it is. Is that our discretion to impose or not impose? However, we don't impose it, then we don't get some type of matching funds from the state. Is that true or is that not true act? We on the district to be able to get other milage MAY that does come to this state. We do have advertise for the the local. Millage otherwise that we don't get our proportionate share. Okay. >> So what it that we could choose not to? But if we don't, we lose out on a lot of state money right? Absolutely. Ok, great. This tax is in addition to the school board's proposed tax of 4.9, 9, 2, mills for operating expenses is and and is proposed slowing solely at the discretion of the school board. Whoever could roll on this, whether it's a board member or you. That 4 point. And then in the note that we have here at ces, we'll need to reconfirm required local effort millage from always so. Just help understand exactly what the taxes. So that is that is the. >> The rate that we are waiting for from the state. That's the required local millage That's the that the district is required to the levy on the taxpayers. Okay. >> To to to get along with the 1.5 know which. As our discussion to to love it because it says he's proposed solely at the discretion of the school board. So we love the the 4.9, 9, 2, And then we love you. The 1.5. And this is just start and maybe form you understand probably not as well as >> it was a figure. Know that you've been through this. So I'm just I'm I'm just making sure that I understand. So I can explain to the taxpayers because that comes out to if I do my mouth about 6 Abouts 6 point. >> that fine to or for something like that is so we have this plus that to get its too. I think I think this is another summer that you'll end up seeing when you get the tentative budget. I think that it's like 6 point 4, 9, 2, in total. It's adding up all of the rest of them. I did the math, right? Okay. >> So these are. These are millages that to our discussion. To impose. But if we don't impose them, then we lose out on what we might call matching state funding money. Correct. >> Rec. That's a That's a good now. Yes, okay. I just. >> And then how do we and then you and the snow here says. We'll need to confirm rl in millage from dot. What does that understand? What the English words mean? But exactly is the note that Department revenue provided when they our particular ads? >> That's the note that they indicated to us that once we get the required local effort that will send them this information back up and that's basically to let them look to see if that one change is real. >> So that could change from. From 4.9, 9, 2, 2, some other MAY be up or down 0.1 1 or something like that. Okay. And then it says on the one below that the proposed combined school board tax increase for both operating expenses and capital outlay is shown. >> And the adjacent notice the capital outlay tax will generate about 3 million, 930,554 dollars. And then we're going to talk about it. That's fine. So if we could go over to the notice of proposed tax increase, which is the other attachment. So why is that? When we say it's a notice proposed tax increase? Are we increase. We're not increasing rates. Why tax ask you that. >> Okay. So this particular format is required in the statute to be able to get this particular information to the taxpayers and it lets know at the start of what the proposed tax levy would be. And the adjustments that actually get through an group board along with time to get to the actual property, levy taxes. And then there is a required portion that is calculated. That has to be I believe that's like 5 tense. Yet. 5 tense of the of the total proposed Texas has to be shown here. And that's just required to be presented this way by the state law in state law. >> So is this is this increase from? So says last year's property tax Levy, actual property tax Levy was 390 million, $901,084. And this year for 65, 5, 5, 5, 8, 0, Is that essentially? And increase in the overall value of property in the county that's being assessed at the same. Drake says it was last year. Levy applied. Case, the property value increase. And this is what the the levee portion of that will have a portion of that. Okay. But I guess my question number, it's the the property value. The 68 Billion. But it's expected the certified its 72 Billion. So this is the >> tax levy on that. All right. >> So the the increase, it's like whatever the U.S. To say 5%, the the rate is not changing its just 5% of a bigger pot of money based on the total property value in the county. Which will then give us an increase from 391 million to 460 Million. So we're not raising property rates, but what we are taking more tax money. But it's just the fact of the map is. X-ray times a bigger pot of money gives us more money. Okay. I'm just making sure that it's the people understand that we're not increasing the tax rates, but where the percentage times a bigger part of money gives us. Bigger and bigger amount understand it myself to make sure I can explain to everybody. Okay, great. That's what I want to get clear. Thank you very much. Just some expect. >> Good morning. Good morning. I was just going to go from what he was saying. Our ally. And the budget summary. 3 point 2, 4, 4, 0, Is there any kind projection? That we can get what that might be at like 0.1 or down 0.1. It's a good that's not going to one that will change. >> It's not going to huge. Increase. Think from that? It will be it. I'm expecting it to be it. But in this ballpark. Okay. >> this was this particular local effort was based on when they had the property value at 68 Billion. And it's now 7 to 10 day. But I ok. >> I and based on check marks on same budget summary read to our ally. The capital of 1.5. I'm not the right side. We have discretionary the millage that was adopted for one I'm Irene that correct? So only number we're waiting on as for the d o a right. Is that just buckle under way now and then that will affect. >> The budget that we have. And that tended to book, which is why that being held to circulate that the calculations through it all the way through the all the works. Okay. Are they always the last one to get their understand >> So the actual increase and one day it is because our houses, the value of our houses have gone out. My understanding that after the conversation there. Yes, okay. That was my whole assessment as well. So okay. That's all I have. Thank you. Thank you to yeah, I just want to try to understand why we are waiting on require local ever. I thought that was. >> Set that well as JULY 19 is when day. So once months they the JULY first certified taxable value came out, dot has its timeline and the statute to be able to recalculate that particular percentage until JULY 19. Everybody in the waiting waiting on that same. Yes. >> Okay. A lot of people will be calling on the 19th. Hey, did you get it? You if value goes up, they MAY come down. And the r and this right, ok, ok, There could so goes out. Hopefully hopefully it doesn't go down. More than 8.1 or something. But we'll what happens. Okay. When we had our discussion before, you know, I know a year ago that if a home save our schools, 3% cap. >> Their property tax actually did not go up because our increase in. In taxes was below 3%. Gina, can you shake your head? Yes or no. And you have right? And so Right. But so if our increase was more than was less than 3%. They actually pay less in dollars to this to the district. Just school taxes. Based on our covers discussion at a prior workshop. It looks like that's not going to be the case this year. That actually it's going to because the state is requiring more. Of the yes dollars going to school districts is going up. But the proportion stake share is coming down and the locals going up so actually, so am I correct to say that? If you have a 3% save our school? Save our homes. Yeah, we're going to pay more a little bit more. Because it's more than 3% increase. >> I remember the mentioning that at that conference that we are at I do not know for sure if that kept. Works that way. This particular year. We can look into I think it would be helped. Go. >> I don't know for sure, but I don't think the cap works on school taxes. It's just county. Just throwing that with what to look at that. >> And look at my own property taxes and I did pay less to this to the school district last year, but I will double check. That's that's that's a good Interesting. That's thanks. >> Yeah, I just wanted to say one more thing last year that the millage total millage levee that this board impose was 5 points or 6 point. 5 to 2. So this is less than that. This probably good Anwar. Let's be honest. It will go down more so that I just want to point that out. It was 6.5 to last year and the required local effort last year. It was 3.0, 2, 7, 4, 0, So that that's what you can see. That's where it went down. But I just want to make sure the board was aware so that that day. Increase is because there are more how houses and that's really where that. Tax increases coming from because the millage rate has gone down has gone down every year even when the one mill got put in place, it went down so that that one mill was only worth 0.7 to that year because it went down that much that year after the one that was voted on. So I just want to make sure that was really clear that it every year it goes down and more houses come to Manatee County. And that's where that additional revenues coming from. Of course, that also brings. More children. But I just want to point that out that the that the military has paused probably decrease of more from here. Thank you. Thank you. Live >> And yes, please, if I So I was going to ask that question, what was last year's? Required local But it was actually higher than this year's required local effort. 6 0.5 to 2 and your experience that sorry. That's the total to require effort. I'm sorry was 3.0, 2, 7, 4, >> Okay. Actually had mentioned that in the budget workshop to we're showing are projecting where we had it at the 3.0. 2, 4, 4, dropping >> as well, too. So >> or the sellers, are you? Knowledgeable enough? The other words that come to my mind. Nobody knows everything about their job. But to explain how it is that this local required effort is calculated. Talk a little by the state. >> I believe how it is they get that whole toll of the taxes up there. But then this is part of I believe how they look at the equitable. Method. And I believe that part of that and 7 going in the direction of maybe another district. Instead. But I don't think I can eloquently, but but I knew that we don't get as much as that actually goes up there from from this particular area. Coming back to hear Okay, that helps make the the end result. >> It's going take so that they look at like. All the money that Manatee County supposed to get for budget for their budget and then say. This is how much money. You're going to get. And so to get that to get that amount of money that we say you're going to get. This is the amount of money you have to pay up to the state to get, you know, to I say, you, the taxpayers of the county have to pay to that because the taxpayers actually pay the money to the state. My take the state takes the money gives it gives it back to us. So are they looking at like Ft? How many students we have in water fd is water. Transportation costs are all those. >> It's and I think a percentage of light 96% or so. And getting a. It's what we end budgeting, too. Not the whole 100% when it comes time to that to be able to look at that to see if it goes into don't exactly how they do it from there. And but but I do think it's it's just a percentage. It's not the 100% when it that route. And remember, we still had other factors that they were looking in when we looking at other revenue sources, but in lap is getting ready to to mix the the bsa in That's not this part of it. So anyhow, yeah, that I could look into that a little bit be able to get back to you. >> It's very it's a very technical. He I can look for that little bit better because I have read but I can't bring to mind be able to explain it how they come up with rally. But I can get that. >> actuality I the first comment I made so that we're not raising rates are actually lowering rates. Light. It's very slight within the thousands of a percent. But they are actually coming down a little bit from from last year. So, okay. Okay. >> Just trying to get smart on this every day. Little bit Just to go back to. Is different for every district. That's all I'm like ok to that because you said something. Everybody is waiting get it get yours and you get it. So it's actually different for every district us. All right. Just confirmed that. >> It is just it is different because all right. Thank you. Said to the state law says that funding has to be provided to every says there's student in the state. So counties that have high property taxes paying a little bit more counties that have low property tax base value paying a little bit less and then the state equals that all out. And so that's why you said we get back. We pay and more that we get back because we're over the. Threshold. So to speak of. Well, I have to fund some They'll come to the state will end and other different pots. They will be able to help those other districts. >> This this property value will be able to help this particular county more, which is why and some other categories we might not get as much as some of those because of that particular calculation about yeah, I mean, >> if you know, you look at a county that doesn't have the tax base like we have, we're giving. Those counties money from. And that's what something that we talked to, the greater the the like those. What 15 of us. I think you're in that consortium come up with like more than 50% right around 52% of the actual money that goes, education come from like 15 counties like 52% of it. So we all need be that come together. Given that you have something else. >> Yeah, I I was really curious about what MISTER Dai said. So I pulled up and actually it's the save our school cap applies. For school districts, but the extra $25,000 property tax exemption is took till you're right. >> Where were Pay more schools got. >> Extra taxes. Even if you had that camp. Yeah, that but it's not us. >> Horrible as losing the save our schools. So interesting. I feel looks like nobody else is that up to speak so we can go ahead and vote. >> On the approval to advertise a notice of public hearing to dot the tentative millage is and to budget for fiscal year. 23. 24 and that passes unanimously. Thank you all very much. Just ask one Came up in board briefing yesterday. >> the budget book are you going to ask? How we preferred the budget both do we want to wait for? >> What we could do? It is if wanted after we get once we get the rl we need to make sure we get that add into the newspaper. So it's published on time mall update that book. We can have it. What they're hoping to do is have it on the 20th in the afternoon, available as a pdf and if if we can, if they can to try to get it to print, we would let you guys But we know that we could at least get to in a pdf form, but we could also see if we can also print it in any way beforehand, just we have been picking up a few items to make sure that we wanted to have the tentative pretty close to the final and some of those things are going through 2 along with our rld. If the dis, if the if the board is good with them, a pdf copy by the on that went in the afternoon. We're going to try our best to get that. You do not have to print out one for me. You can save the I watch a look at on the for those of you know, I like one way more apt to look at it on my iPad and Peter than I am. >> Big full. >> I think the spread as I like to print because I might so we can try to get that as quick as possible. And let you know when we can have it as quickly as possible use our print shop to print them. Once we're done with thoughts of the usually try to do it. Yes. Good. >> many pages that? And so I mean, is it? >> 30 sit back and front? It's about 32 pages. >> would like a pretty confident if it's just 32 pages, ok, 30 200 pages account. Take 32 page. But I'd like to start with a yes. I don't need a printed copy. Okay. Finally look at on cake to thank Yeah. Thank you. >> That was that. Was that kind of I've been Number 2, I means there's moving on to item. Number actually a break. This apart. The approval of appointments change of assignment. Promotion 3.3 assignments break to break this into 3 individual appointments stash. Higher slash promotions, etcetera. Superintendent, when you give us a recommendation for the I believe you have the right or is it the deputy superintendent of instructional services? >> Good Morning Chair. Board members. I recommend approval of MISTER Derrick Jensen to serve as deputy superintendent of instructional services. You don't move very much. We have motion a second. We have a second. Any discussion from anyone and I I do want I want to go just give us. >> a little blurred by Bauer fee on on on MISTER Genson. I don't anyone else has any other questions. Just one thing. >> MISTER Genson currently leads all k through 12 teaching and initiatives for Seminole County Public Schools. He's been in that specific role for the last 3 years where he has overseen the best standards transition, the transition to the fast assessments. All professional learning for faculty and an overhaul of the system to support and retain new teachers in the district. Prior to that work. He was the founding administrator of a problem solving incubator. High School were Sai Hy an innovative high school reform model that outside funding to get the school open. Prior to that he served as a digital and blended learning manager leaving the curriculum innovation activities in prayer. That was a high school science teacher. MISTER Jensen has a bachelor's degree in science, education and a master's degree in educational leadership. Both from the University of Central Florida. Very much. >> I don't see any board led up to speak. So we're asking questions so appreciate that. Information to you shared with us in our briefings as we go vote for the approval of appointment. MISTER Darr Jensen is deputy should be 10 of instructional services and that passes unanimously. Thank you very much. Number 2, general counsel. >> Yes, I recommend approval of MISS Pamela d Augustino to serve as general counsel of the school District of Manatee County. >> We have a motion and a second again. Can you give us some information on youngest, Tina? Yes, thank you. Estate d I just you know, currently serves as the assistant county attorney for Manatee County government >> rule that she's held for the past 8 years prior to that, she served as assistant state attorney for the 12th Judicial Circuit and was in that role for 7 years. Her undergraduate degree is in Busi