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Page 1 Minutes January 6, 2023 Workshop – 9:00 AM Manatee County School District 215 Manatee Avenue West Bradenton, FL 34205 www.manateeschools.net Times Indicated Are Approximate Attendee Name Status Cynthia Saunders, Superintendent Doug Wagner, Deputy Superintendent of Operations Gina Messenger, Board Member Mary Foreman, Board Member Stephen Dye, School Board Attorney Chad Choate, Chair Cindy Spray, Vice-Chair Richard Tatem, Board Member Present Mitchell Teitelbaum, General Counsel Absent I) CALL TO ORDER Minutes: Chair Choate called the Workshop to order at 9:00 AM. II) WORKSHOP 1. Presentations by Consulting Firms and Board Discussion Florida School Boards Association Minutes: Ms. Andrea Messina, Chief Executive Officer of the Florida School Boards Association (FSBA), provided an overview of the process of a superintendent search and FSBA's superintendent search services. Following the presentation, the Board asked questions. Dr. Bill Vogel and Mr. John Reichert, also of FSBA, answered questions from the Board. Chair Choate announced a brief recess at 9:57 AM and reconvened at 10:06 AM. Hazard, Young, Attea & Associates (HYA) Minutes: Mr. Bill Adams and Mrs. Stacy Adams, of Hazard, Young, Attea & Associates (HYA), presented to the Board. They provided an overview of the services offered for superintendent searches. The Board asked questions throughout the presentation.

Page 2 2. BREAK - Approximately 45 Minutes Minutes: Chair Choate announced a recess at 11:09 AM and reconvened the Workshop at 12:00 PM. 3. Presentations by Consulting Firms and Board Discussion - Continued McPherson & Jacobson, LLC Minutes: Dr. Marjorie Wallace, of McPherson & Jacobson LLC, presented an overview of services to the Board. Dr. Ralph Ferrie and Dr. Michelle Hamilton, of McPherson & Jacobson LLC, joined the Workshop remotely and assisted Dr. Wallace with the presentation. Following the presentation, Chair Choate inquired if there was consensus from the Board for a specific firm to place on the next Board Meeting Agenda for approval. Board Member Foreman stated that she leans heavily toward the Florida School Boards Association (FSBA). Vice-Chair Spray noted that Hazard, Young, Attea & Associates (HYA) received negative press and discussed information she read online. She requested to omit HYA. Board Member Messenger noted that she leans toward FSBA and provided an explanation. Board Member Tatem inquired about the article mentioned by Vice-Chair Spray. Mr. Stephen Dye, School Board Attorney, stated that Vice-Chair Spray could send the article to the Agency Clerk for any Board Member to view. At the request of Board Member Tatem, Superintendent Saunders provided her point of view as a spectator and noted considerations. She stated that her choice would be FSBA and provided the reasons. Following a question from Board Member Tatem, Mr. Dye provided his opinion. The Board held discussion regarding inviting Ms. Pat Barber, President of the Manatee Education Association, forward to answer questions. Chair Choate provided the reasons that he would like to work with FSBA. The Board held further discussion. The Board reached consensus to move forward with services from FSBA. Mr. Dye recommended placing an item on the next agenda for the Board to select a firm. He recommended leaving the item generic in order to give Board Members adequate time to think about the decision. Following a question from Board Member Tatem, the Board held discussion regarding the operating procedures for workshops. III) PUBLIC COMMENTS Minutes: There were no Public Comments. IV) ADJOURNMENT Minutes: Chair Choate adjourned the Workshop at 1:47 PM.

Page 3 ______________________________ ______________________________ Cynthia Saunders, Ex Officio Secretary Chad Choate, III and Superintendent of Schools Chairman NOTICE Any person who desires to appeal any decision made by the School Board with respect to any matter considered at the above-mentioned meeting will need a record of the proceedings, and for such purpose may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which an appeal may be based. School Board meetings are held in accessible locations. Auxiliary aids will be provided, upon written request received at least 48 hours prior to the meeting, to participants with disabilities.

I. CALL TO ORDER II. WORKSHOP 1. Presentations by Consulting Firms and Board Discussion 2. BREAK - Approximately 45 Minutes 3. Presentations by Consulting Firms and Board Discussion - Continued III. PUBLIC COMMENTS Public comment is not an open forum to discuss matters unrelated to education, to support or oppose candidates for public office, or to engage in commercial speech attempting to sell a service or product to the School Board or public. Also, public comment is not a forum to attack individual school system employees or Board Members. Any such complaints should be submitted in writing to the Superintendent for appropriate handling. Finally, this is not a forum for addressing issues involving individual students. Because of privacy concerns, such issues should be submitted in writing to the Superintendent for appropriate handling. Each speaker is allowed three minutes to address the Board. Speakers must stand at the podium and not approach the dais. This is a business meeting of the School Board and the public expects that we conduct it in an orderly, efficient, effective and dignified manner. We request that speakers keep this in mind when making your comments. We also request that the audience keep that in mind and not demonstrate approval or disapproval of what a speaker has said by clapping or booing. The Board appreciates the public's input and will listen attentively, consider each comment, and usually will not respond, enter into debate, or answer questions during comments on agenda items or during the public comments section. PUBLIC INPUT INSTRUCTIONS: 1. Before you begin speaking, please provide any handouts to the Agency Clerk. 2. Please identify yourself only by your full name for the record. 3. You have no more than three minutes to speak. Please stop speaking when the bell rings. 4. Florida Law requires all citizens to conduct themselves in an orderly fashion at public meetings. 5 . WARNING: Any individual who interferes with the expeditious or orderly process of a School Board meeting, will be subject to removal from the meeting pursuant to Section 1001.372(3) Florida Statutes at the discretion of the Chair. Orderly fashion is deemed as, at a minimum (1) no profanity (2) no vulgar language (3) no discourteous, disrespectful, or disparaging conduct. Agenda January 6, 2023 School Board of Manatee County Workshop - 9:00 AM Walter Miller School Support Center Board Room Times Indicated are Approximate 1

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I. CALL TO ORDER II. WORKSHOP 1. Presentations by Consulting Firms and Board Discussion 2. BREAK - Approximately 45 Minutes 3. Presentations by Consulting Firms and Board Discussion - Continued III. PUBLIC COMMENTS Public comment is not an open forum to discuss matters unrelated to education, to support or oppose candidates for public office, or to engage in commercial speech attempting to sell a service or product to the School Board or public. Also, public comment is not a forum to attack individual school system employees or Board Members. Any such complaints should be submitted in writing to the Superintendent for appropriate handling. Finally, this is not a forum for addressing issues involving individual students. Because of privacy concerns, such issues should be submitted in writing to the Superintendent for appropriate handling. Each speaker is allowed three minutes to address the Board. Speakers must stand at the podium and not approach the dais. This is a business meeting of the School Board and the public expects that we conduct it in an orderly, efficient, effective and dignified manner. We request that speakers keep this in mind when making your comments. We also request that the audience keep that in mind and not demonstrate approval or disapproval of what a speaker has said by clapping or booing. The Board appreciates the public's input and will listen attentively, consider each comment, and usually will not respond, enter into debate, or answer questions during comments on agenda items or during the public comments section. PUBLIC INPUT INSTRUCTIONS: 1. Before you begin speaking, please provide any handouts to the Agency Clerk. 2. Please identify yourself only by your full name for the record. 3. You have no more than three minutes to speak. Please stop speaking when the bell rings. 4. Florida Law requires all citizens to conduct themselves in an orderly fashion at public meetings. 5 . WARNING: Any individual who interferes with the expeditious or orderly process of a School Board meeting, will be subject to removal from the meeting pursuant to Section 1001.372(3) Florida Statutes at the discretion of the Chair. Orderly fashion is deemed as, at a minimum (1) no profanity (2) no vulgar language (3) no discourteous, disrespectful, or disparaging conduct. Agenda January 6, 2023 School Board of Manatee County Workshop - 9:00 AM Walter Miller School Support Center Board Room Times Indicated are Approximate 1

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AGENDA ITEM NO. II.1 School Board of Manatee County January 6, 2023 - Workshop Title Presentations by Consulting Firms and Board Discussion Executive Summary During the December 13, 2022 School Board Workshop, the Board discussed hiring a consulting firm for the superintendent search. Consulting firms will present a proposal to the Board for consideration. Following the presentations, the Board will hold discussion regarding the selection of a firm. Attached is the tentative schedule of presentations. Contact Submitting Department: School Board Attachments: Tentative Schedule of Presentations 3

SCHOOL BOARD OF MANATEE COUNTY Tentative Schedule of Presentations January 6, 2023 9:00 – 9:30 AM Florida School Boards Association (FSBA) 9:45 – 10:15 AM Hazard, Young, Attea & Associates (HYA) 10:30-11:00 AM Ray and Associates (pending confirmation) 11:15 – 12:00 PM Break 12:00 – 12:30 PM McPherson & Jacobson, LLC 4

AGENDA ITEM NO. II.2 School Board of Manatee County January 6, 2023 - Workshop Title BREAK - Approximately 45 Minutes Executive Summary The Chair will call a recess. Contact Submitting Department: School Board 5

AGENDA ITEM NO. II.3 School Board of Manatee County January 6, 2023 - Workshop Title Presentations by Consulting Firms and Board Discussion - Continued Executive Summary During the December 13, 2022 School Board Workshop, the Board discussed hiring a consulting firm for the superintendent search. Consulting firms will present a proposal to the Board for consideration. Following the presentations, the Board will hold discussion regarding the selection of a firm. Attached is the tentative schedule of presentations. Contact Submitting Department: School Board Attachments: Tentative Schedule of Presentations 6

SCHOOL BOARD OF MANATEE COUNTY Tentative Schedule of Presentations January 6, 2023 9:00 – 9:30 AM Florida School Boards Association (FSBA) 9:45 – 10:15 AM Hazard, Young, Attea & Associates (HYA) 10:30-11:00 AM Ray and Associates (pending confirmation) 11:15 – 12:00 PM Break 12:00 – 12:30 PM McPherson & Jacobson, LLC 7

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>> it's going to order the JANUARY 6 school board workshop. I think everybody first off, happy New Year and hopefully and we got rest it up. For a start of 2023. So obviously you've got the We do have time slotted for each person, from its here. That's going to present to us have we heard back from the from the cancel nothing yet, right? So I looking at there's about 30 minutes us. Comey move it to maybe about 45 minutes apiece and that we can take a little bit of that part of that time up, just communicate with me if they they are able to jump an early. If you didn't your e-mail just to the board members in public from that was going to present it pulled out. The last minute. So we had them in a times out of 10 to 3 to 11. I'm going to ask the 12 o'clock. We're going to try to reach out to 12 o'clock prisoners. See if they can move up if they can't. We'll just take that break. But we normally have had a 45 minute breaks. We got about 15 minutes. We can work with for the 2 presenters that are going to be here. I'm Andrea and Bill that are going to be here. And here you've got about 15 minutes. We had just 7 and a half minutes on your 30 that you already had sought it. So. First one we've got up is the Florida School Board Association f s p a and seen it coming up and board members. We are on great case. So if you want to put granicus for speakers. >> Did not sign into >> question for you would be do you want to get your presentation and then answer questions? Want to answer questions to the presentation. I know sometimes answer questions in the presentation can get in. Do. Holes know of a sudden we got to where you don't want to be just completely up to you. >> You know, I would defer to you, but I'm happy to go through the presentation, which MAY vary and some of the I like go to the presentation and then we can get. >> Questions after. All right, >> some of us are not logged in the grass. >> I did not look in the Granite you have to write this mean for next question. At the end, it will be okay. >> You want me to give you a moment from. >> Could you to get signed? And now, to be honest, just said. And does doesn't >> And right. And you've given us a physical pack of your presentation as well. >> I mean, link. >> Should not the bottom of your if you go to start button Granicus I like to sleep. Just think that's right. >> And can see it. Ms means if you mine. >> right. That's fine. Okay. We can work on the yeah. I have my past where I just don't seem like you just go around. Ask questions this fight it. So okay. Thank you >> good morning. Board members and happy New Year. I do want to start today by reminding you of something that I said to you a few weeks ago, which is that choosing the next leader for your school district. Is the single most important decision that you're going to make as board members. And I also want to remind you of the number of appointed superintendents in the state, the number who have been placed since 2020. So there's a lot of new fresh faces across the state and then the likely or current openings that exists right now. And there are clearly 6, potentially 7. I do want to let you know, in full transparency that last night, sba, we just committed to our 3rd superintendent search. Since the last time we spoke, we picked up 3 superintendent searches and so I that will affect some of our ability to be flexible with your dates and times. But I want to be fully transparent on that. And so I can answer questions about as we move forward. We've assisted a number of Florida school districts. I think I mentioned too this to you before. And like I said, we just pic to parse are going to be working with Charlotte County. We're going to be working with Brevard County and we're going to be working with Osceola County we do know Manatee County and this is one of the things that we believe we bring to the table more than any other from could possibly. I'm going to introduce my colleagues in just a We've got Bill Doctor Bill Vogel here who many of, you know, because he's worked with your district for years now. He's a former superintendent, former superintendent of the year in the state of Florida. And he's worked in a number of school districts. He also currently works training superintendents with the Superintendents Association. We also have MISTER John Reichert, who is a former human resources expert. So we have the superintendent perspective with Doctor Vogel. We have the board perspective with me. A few maybe don't remember for whatever reason. We're in a really when I said it, I'm a 3 term school board member from Charlotte County. I was a school board member hired many superintendents while I was on the school board. Well, too. And then since I've been working with we've worked with a number of districts and then MISTER Eckert is the age our perspective. So we kind of look at ourselves as a three-legged stool. We provide onsite representation for all of the activities associated with the superintendent search Bill and John are the ones who will typically run if you decide to have community forums. If you decide to have any sort targeted input sessions with any employee groups, community groups, parents, things like that, Bill and John are the ones that would typically do that. Focus groups of any sort students. All that and then we would come to your board meetings when we would want to bring forward items that the board would want to approve things like your timeline, your qualifications and qualities, where where you want to advertise all of those decisions that have to be made along the way we come to the board meetings and we work. We work with the board to get to decisions. We do use a team approach. We ask that initially you identify a district staff liaison for many districts. That happens to be the board clerk or the board secretary or the board. Whatever role you might have. Sometimes it has been a board attorney sometimes it has been a chief of staff. It just depends on the structure of the school district to your identified to be that point person. We also will do some interfacing along the way with your school board attorney in your hr staff as well as your district communications and your it staff. Those are the bulk of the staff members that will work with. We typically would work with outside organizations as you identify them. If you want to work with your foundation on reception, if you want to work with your chamber, if you want to work with, you know, whatever groups you decide want to be involved in your search. We work with them as well. So we look at it as a team approach. The 3 of us, any one of whom our into changeable at any time. All of us can do all of the functions of the search. So we we see ourselves as a team. But everything we do is personalized for Manatee County based on the priorities and needs identified by the board. So we sit down talk with the board right from the start and we will gather the information get to direction from you. We do have some resources that we share that we've developed for both your staff liaison, which will walk them through every activity involved in the search. Tell them what's you know what we need? What's Whose responsibility who we need to bring to the table. It communications staff, things like that. And then we also have a a key resource for school board members that really walks you through the key decisions that you'll be making along the way. We have a recommended search timeline which is adjusted. No one has ever followed. Know. District has ever follow this timeline. Exactly. But it kind of gives you an idea of the length of time for each of the elements throughout the search and then that flexible in accommodating to whatever the district's needs are. When we talk about the search, as I mentioned before, there are some things that are non negotiable. Ys, sunshine law, public records, law and public input along the way. Those are going to happen through every aspect of your search. But we like to start with the planning phase and in the planning phase. The first thing that we do is help your it staff established a website portal. We believe it's really important for your community to know every activity associated with the superintendent search and all of that would get placed on the portal. So this meeting would be linked. Everyone can watch whatever they wanted to watch associated with it. If they wanted to read the minutes or watch the video are anything and then everything that timeline, all of the applications, everything gets put up on that portal, including if you have a community survey, the results of that survey, everything is transparent because we believe that that is really important for your community to know what's going on along the way we start with, as I mentioned up research interview where we sit down with the board. We really want to get a feel for what the board believes are the top priorities moving forward and where you currently stands. So we'll be asking questions like what is your relationship with your business community? What is your relationship with your parent community? What is your relationship with your legislators? What is your relationship with your staff? We are you and your strategic plan. We are you with regard to growth, all of those things so that you all have some common agreement and we know what those. Priorities are for the for the board. So that when potential candidates talk to us and ask questions of us, we know because we've have the conversation with you. But we also recommend that anyone who's interested in applying watch that particular workshop so they can hear for themselves what the board thinks. They can also see the board dynamics, how the board interacts with each other, which is, you know, is an important aspect when someone is considering applying a school district. So that's our very first act to the when we work with the school district. The next thing that we like to do is establish a timeline. And typically the timeline starts from the back. When do you want the person to start and then is there going to be any overlap? You're going to have to have contract negotiations are going to have to have a meeting to make the decision. You're going to have to have interviews and it all backs up from there. So we build your timeline typically around meetings that you already have scheduled to the largest degree possible. But there MAY be times when you would have to add a special meeting because there's an element of the search that needs to move forward. And maybe your currently scheduled meetings don't accommodate the timeline that that you've agreed to or that you put forth. We also determine any advisory role if you're going to for any establish a community advisory group, some boards do some boards. Don't there are benefits to it? There are drawbacks to it. As I mentioned before, the board cannot absolve itself of the responsibility to hire the superintendent. And that's Lee. If you do. Impanel an advisory board, they advise the board and bring suggestions to the board. But the board makes decisions on behalf of the the district related Superintendent search. Then we moved to the input phase, which typically we would recommend an electronic survey. We like to look at your strategic plan to develop that survey. And we also look at the types skills needed to be a superintendent so that people can have some weigh in on that and identify what's important to the community. We also strongly encourage face-to-face or virtual forms. We've had to do during covid. We had to do some virtual forums completely. We in fact, we did one search that was almost complete because of the limitations at the time. But it is better to have face-to-face, if you can. And now we're trying to We've had some districts that have the capacity to 2 DuBose tent to be able to do a hybrid version. And then if you have any advisory groups, as I said, you MAY have a community advisory group of staff advisory group, student advisory groups or you MAY have a group that consists of all of them. Then you move to the application It's during the application phase or just before that you finalize the qualifications and qualities that you're looking for in your superintendent. And as I mentioned last time we spoke what you're looking for in your next superintendent is probably different than what you look for in your last one or what you'll be looking for in the one following it based on the needs of the district at the time you're seeking a superintendent. So you'll finalize the qualifications and qualities you determine where you want to advertise. We certainly have data and research and recommendations on where people go to find these types of jobs and you'll accept applications. I'm not you. Typically we would accept the applications to kind of keep that arm's length from anyone in your district. We like to make sure that the district doesn't people in hr, for example, don't get any accusations holding back a resume putting forward a resume for any reason. We just want to make sure there's no impropriety, not that your district would be guilty of that. But we want to make sure that it's above reproach. And so we typically would accept the applications during that application phase. We are also out recruiting. So we there are based on the profile that you're looking for for superintendent and based on the demographics in the profile of your school district. There are certain types of superintendents because of their experiences. That would be good, fits that we would reach out to see if they're interested, try to encourage them. Additionally during the input phase, we ask every form that we have. If people know of someone that they think would be good, give us their name. And then we track down all of those leads so that anybody who's been recommended. We've talked to we've explain the board is looking for. Encourage them to apply. But as you know, Florida is a public records. State. And so there are some people who will hesitate to apply because of the public nature of the superintendent or any position in Florida. So people from out of state. Sometimes will apply. And even though we're very clear about the Florida public records law, they sometimes don't understand the public records law. And you MAY see people apply and then withdraw because once they've applied in Florida, their name becomes public. The current board with which they're working hears about it. If they haven't had that conversation with their board because they thought it was going to be private. If you could even become a problem for them at home. So we we're very clear that it's public because in Florida, it's public. But not everybody understands that them and then we go through the vetting stage. The vetting stage includes the reviewing of the applications to see who meets the qualifications that you've identified. I think I mentioned last time I was here. You'll get a number of applications that are not qualify, but they're hopeful and they MAY be a great superintendent someday, but they just MAY not be currently qualify based on what you're looking for. So we review all the applications. You will see every application that gets submitted. We don't withhold any we don't keep any back. We don't present the board. Certain favorites that for whatever reason somebody might. We don't weigh in on that right now said we bring all of them to the board. We will conduct research on the top candidates that you identify or if you have a community group or if you're having semifinalists. We begin to do some research on the top candidates and then we present the applications to the board in fall. We don't we we don't hold any back. We recommend depending on the number of applications you get building in a semifinalist face and it's in the semifinals phase that the board says, okay, these are the qualified people. Let's continue to consider them. But let's give them another filter to determine who we want to bring in for the final interviews. So we would develop questions with the board. 5 board members. Typically we would have 5 questions. Some would-be video, some would be written in a very short time frame. We would share the semifinalist answers to those questions with the board begin to conduct some of the legal background searches and then we would lead the discussion with you to get to the finalists selection, which would be the people you would bring in for the final interviews. So during the finalists phase, we would help you develop interview questions sports. We we work with them to develop those questions related to what your community has identified as important and your strategic plan. Hopefully those to melt. But sometimes they don't. We tried it. We work with your team to coordinate all the interview. Logistics. And we also provide on-site assistance with the interviews we one or all of us are typically at the host hotel. We are in the lobby waiting for them to arrive from wherever they're coming from. We greet them. We make sure they have all of their information that they need us as a resource. If anything happens, their car breaks down on the way from the hotel here. Whatever we make sure that we're available to them, we make sure they get where they need to be when they need to be any number of logistics along the way that that MAY or MAY not surprise including community tours, activities for family members, spouses, a lot of times people will bring their partner, their family spouse who MAY be interested in. I don't know arts or something. And so then we would want to try to have an activity where they can go and see the arts community so that they kind of know what might be here and available for them so they can see the full package of the community. Once we get through the interviews, then we get to the selection phase. And so we consult with the board. Has requested. Typically after the interviews, which initially consist of more interview one-on-one interviews and some community board members have a lot of information that then they will be sifting through to determine, oh, my gosh, what do I do now? Are. We consider it a success when you are have a very difficult decision ahead of you when all of the finalists that you've interviewed are people that you say, yeah, I could work with these people and they would all be good for our district. So, gosh, how do I choose one that that's what we consider a success when it all the finalists are well positioned. So you all MAY have questions. You might have questions about background information. You might have questions about data from their state, any number of things. So we will consult with board members as needed. We also then come to the board meeting where you make your final decision and we helped lead that conversation so that the chair can fully participate in the conversation if desired. Sometimes the chair. Elise, the conversation. But we're here. If you need us once you determine who your superintendent is going to be by vote of the board, then we assist your legal counsel with other contracts. We have the contrast from the other Florida superintendents so they can see what the standards happened to be. And we also assist legal with any new inclusions or any contract trends. Anything like that the once you've made an offer to a candidate, once you've decided you want to hire somebody. From the this is our choice to a contract at the board meeting is an important phase because we haven't seen it in Florida. But I know in other states there have been times when the offer's been made for employment and then they can't agree on a contract and then the board ends up going to their second choice or 3rd choice. It it has happened. I've not seen it in Florida, but we do everything we can to prevent that from happening because that's not what's best for the board in the community. Can avoid it. After the We're here to continue to support the board. By creating successful conditions for the superintendent and the board to be engaged in the community and increase student achievement in the district. That's why we're all here. The first way to do that is to make sure that there are clear expectations of the superintendent, 4 degrees to protocols. What are communications going to be? How are we going to handle citizen complaints? Just protocols that everyone agrees to. So there's no misunderstanding. Also ensuring that you guys have common goals and that the evaluation of the new superintendent is discussed right from the start. People want to know what they're going to be evaluated on and what you determine. The superintendent to be evaluated on, as you all know is what's going to get done. So making sure all those things are clear from the beginning. I do want to mention that sba has a national network. We are a part of what is called the national affiliation of superintendents. Searchers, we work with the other state School board association. So when somebody from South Carolina applause, I can call my friend Scott, who's the executive over there and he's superintendent search team and find out if they worked with this person under what conditions have they worked with this person didn't know anything about the dynamics between the board and this particular applicant. There's information we can get because all across the country, people who have the same job. I do work with superintendents and their state. So it's valuable and very helpful information and we can get some all kinds interesting information. Good and bad. Sometimes we have extensive experience with Florida's public records, sunshine laws and media outlets. We've never been accused of not producing something or retaining something. And we take great pride in ensuring that public records and sunshine laws are primary throughout throughout the search. We've been active. My friends here, my colleagues, Irvine involved before I was. But we have a long active participation in the Florida education community dating back to 1977. And being active since that time, I entered the Florida education community and 19 87, some only a decade it. I'm the one thing I do want to stress yelling this is this is really an important aspect. Is that? Who you choose for your search firm has got to be the best fit for Manatee County. We're years school membership association. There's a lot that we deal. We do superintendents really superintendent searches really well. And we have great confidence in the work that we do. But there are times when 8 for any reason that we're not the best choice for a board for their superintendent search. And if for any reason, sba MAY not be your best choice. I want to assure you that you can continue to call us and ask even hired another firm. But you're not sure about something you can always call us and get whatever advice as you would. As a member, regardless of who you choose as your search firm were, your membership organization were here before during and after. And we will continue to be here before during and after. And that's a really important point because a successful superintendent search will unite the board and the community. And that's the desired outcome. And if enough working with sba for any reason isn't a uniting thing. We're not your best choice. You need to pick a fund that will unite the board and help the district move forward. Now, I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have. Awesome. Thank you very much for presentation. Let's just move. This is not a great okay. But just your first anyways farm and I. >> yeah. So let's go with you. Let's just go right now in mind with ladies first. Okay. >> Thank you, Andrea. Appreciate. What you had to say. I have got several First, Orange County was assume that was your most recent. Yes, ma'am. Finish search. And on their site. They had 13 applicants list

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