Jan 24, 2023 4:00 PM - Redding Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Okay,If everyone isReady we will call had the meeting to order. January 24 of the city planning commission if you could please do a roll call. >>[ CALLING ROLL ] >>Okay, with that, we will moved to item 2, provoked minutes. This is from the December 13, 2022 meeting.Do you have a motion to approve?Okay, do we have a second?We have our second.Those in favor? >>Aye. >>Any opposed?Seeing none.Commissioner Meyer,The send our prayers he is in the hospital and maybe we can visit him.Please have your thoughts and prayers for him. With that, we move right on to our number for a Consent Calendar on planning a new mission items. In seeing none will move on to item 5 aThis is part of our general plan update.Who do we have >>I'll be offering some comments serve of a bit of a preamble to the commission and we will have a public works department on the transportation element. I just want to offer may be Gutter discussion tonight. Certainly last commission was a full meeting and so and by the time that the general plan we are all a bit tired and I think the meeting is lack of focus so I will of her comments together this discussion. So the staff can get the best. Our goals as described it is in the that guidance and direction from this commission and staff. This can be done by groups of goals I think exactly presenting economic development and we will break those goals up into groups. Her goal by goal but I will discourage individual commissioners from providing thoughts and input on the entire element of one time. So we can work our way is full through them. That will be better for the staff to understand the direction you are providing and working that way. This is your primary in center only opportunity to review this draft elements and get feedbacks. We are on a tight time and will deliver this this general plan on time with funding we have available. But you also see this again during the 45 day public comment period as required by CEQA and of course we will see again before this body for recommendations. I do want to emphasize of this sort of our primary mechanism to get feedback from this body to staff so we can incorporate your comments and ideas into the draft elements. The time to sift through your feedback and guidance in honing the you the final documents and when it becomes this body for recommendation for the city Council are largely in Palm and in support of the document. We have a full schedule were gonna be meeting every plan commission meeting from here to the and of March.I would recommend keeping your guidance and direction a high-level and big picture so consider holes and gaps and policies provide general directions and then entrust that to make the changes based on that guidance. I'd like to discourage do much massaging of language are getting to is this necessary for discussion I think that will help us instantly the staff is without the scope document. Consider focus group and amount of time you engaged in public as far when you provide comments or have directions. Expedited timeline understand is a large complex big document is a lot for the commission to review and digest every two weeks it allows for staff to prepare.But we have some realities facing the funding to complete this effort is expiring in the fall of this year. The funding is tied to our budget deliveries. We have to produce something at and of that in order to be reimbursed by a grant. Also at contracted it within the ERI we have to meet that schedule as well to ensure that our ER consultants can perform the work necessary. Unfortunately compressor timeframe and we're shooting for an April draft of this document to go out to meet equal. Just a friendly reminder that I know it is a lot, but are trying to push through it and someone is for the passion so with the staff is working hard to provide much staff support in the room to answer questions but a timeline is expedited unfortunately because of some realities we are facing. So because of this expedited timeline, we don't have the staff in our time really so this process down. And have additional meetings on top of what is already scheduled. Although I understand is allowed to prepare. In that written comments are welcome so if we are not able to get through everything tonight, and one of you commissioners has some additional thoughts or points you would like to make, we are welcome to give those to me and we had can distribute this to staff for consideration. I will caution and I don't think is the best approach for goods decision recommendations as a body so one of you individually writes to us the rest of the commission is in providing the feedback but because this is not a public hearing, because are not subject to are asking promotions and bills on this matter we are really asking for guidance it is acceptable I would caution you prefer to have you all speak to us in his workshops but if there's additional items you'd like to bring to us, you are welcome to write half with your comments and questions. Given the time constraints I'd like to add that as an option. Reminder again your also can have time to do a review during the SQL public comment period. Which again is 25 days very long time, and that will be in April May timeframe if you stand track this additional time there. The other items then we'll get to it. The duration of statements are bit dangerous to understand the sum commissioners comments with respect to the language aspirational notice of the tentative and declarative but that is really on purpose by design we don't want to create mandatory duties we will do is we will do that so in order to meet those kind of goals you can be held into the CD and litigation is not hypothetical actually happened I would like Mr. DeWalt here at more context on that. >>The reason one of the reasons you want to keep the general plan goals and objectives aspirational it is not to shorten them because or even to suggest that maybe we can't meet them the primary problem is litigation. So for example, in a car far litigation we had a global hazard mitigation plan and it has certain goals and time frames meeting those goals and then guess what happens, the great recession happens to cannot have the budget to complete those goals. Ultimately, they moved of that argument now it did create a substantial burden for us early in the litigation. To explain why of those schools are still aspirational even though the fact that they might be described as mandatory. The legal theory is if you create a mandatory obligation in a public candidate fails to accomplish is mandatory obligation can be held to task.So that is why you were trying to give this goes aspirational because the general plans could be within for 20 years and we have no ability for our budgets going to be even enough for four years now. We need to be careful about making firm promises primarily because they are not sure we can meet them. If you do that, secondarily, potential litigation.Nine Thank you, Sir walls, word of caution there is why language is our mitigation measures will touch on this but we will attempt to go to all regarding to goals and pulses are tagged specifically the DIR mitigation measures. So as to consider revising those understanding that there is zero loss speak of limits, because those goals and policies which are to an environmental document will make sure you can understand that. So with that, so until he to highlight staffing we are going to bolster summer staffing plan in the room that can answer questions and comments. To deny,We have our public works team and a city manager's office with us to present to you the transportation element in the economic development with us Zach Mullins will be providing the presentation and just Anthony here is in the rector? Director. Economic development will be presented by the manager.On the planning side, myself of course give manual in the audience as well as additional staff. Try to provide you with lots of knowledge in room and ability to help guide the discussionAnd gone questions if you have. If you have any questions for me this time we can kickoff to our presentations for transportation element. >>Any questions from the commission? >>Jeremy, if Commissioner believes are perceived there is a gap so,By being together it is not going to be one of the goals that are listed, so disappointed order one would be the appropriate time to address that? >>I think it's a good question, I would say if it's in relationship to any goal of policies being discussed, I think that would be part of fineOr at the and of that group of goals or policies being up that gap and we can have a discussionThat seems logical to me. >>It seems like somebody schools are Different places in the process so the transportation element looks like a decorative woodBeautiful sprinklers cake.One is a little bit more in on are we to expect when this is finished or kind of look the same read the same Maybe you couldn't provide some guidance. >>Yes it is a good note, I do believe the transportation element have some help there consultant which will explain why it's a little prettier right now. But they are in different places largely are ghost to provide you draft language suddenly there might be some better formatted looking elements and other elementsWe will polish and get better time to go all 4045 day public comment period is equal our goal is to have our communications team on board provided some of formatting and marketing to that material soNeeds to be little jive with our environmental.Gated work-related and formatted. That being said our compressed timeline, the public document might not be perfectly polished but it will be much moreIn terms of getting her feedback on the content,You would largely focus to make sure that Jeff language is where it needs to be. So you see some differences in formatting polish as we go. >>Is more specific,It is about implementation measures. >>I think there could be inviting comments and questions as you go along Zach will help us guideThat discussion. >>Okay, thanks. >>Thank you, good afternoon,Just wanted to report that you guys know the meso presentation is very open this workshop and so if you have any questions or going through and I am definitely open to raise her hand get my attention andBecause my presentation so we can discuss I have no problem with that.First of all this from the very beginning why do we have the updated the transportation element. There's a few resources that we had to look at whenever updating the general plan. The Municipal Code the state code 65302 requires the city to provide of this general plan and a regular basis and we have to look at circulation element we have to look at the proposed roaster position military airports and ports in other local public utilities and facilities. That is just a basic baseline. Then you get into some of the details in Senate Bill 743 is one of the newest biggest, largest channel for us. That is really going to be what were gonna talk about most tonight because that has been address or change in the last general plan. The assembly Bill 1358 we already went through that. An amended the general plan and added those policies he pretty much cared those therefore for the most part.What are we done to date, as in the audience we have a lot of focus groupAppreciate you all coming out. Discussing the parts and pieces and really digging in and come up with really some interesting updates and goals and policiesAnd litigation measures for the general plan this year.We have amended a couple of things I'm gonna go through some of those changes. You really pulled out some of the key ChangesWe went through the whole document it is reorganized and we did doThe implementation measures and policies it reorganizes Tobit to call out when it is a policy versus implementation measure and so then of the document you will see that where it kinda broke out all of this it is different from the rest of the documentsMay be moved towards the direction I think this is the way we are looking at doing it because having those policiesAnd measures spit out, it is nice for the planners and the staff to look at, this is a policy be something that we can build this report down were looking at building this artwork euros or look at something more physical compared to McGettigan. This project it is policies doesn't make sense more time toNew project that they have to do this thing and those two are distinctly different.The last thing is as I mentioned also the consultant support and studies reports and maps. The reason why we did that is because the DMT lift was very heavy. In order to do that, we have to do everything from traffic studies, to look at the whole grid of this see the running to modeling out 20 years, traffic demand modelIn looking at our three sections, and all this new policies that have been throughout all the state little things here and there have to be the general plan. We were able to bring those elements in the state.It is very useful for us to have that on our team so you will see a pretty fleshed out general plan element on our and.We've been talking about and trying toFrame our conversation and sold if we have these laws and guidance that you have to do what can we talk about clean and so I tried to what is the big picture umbrella first of all, and that is threshold that impacts infrastructure. Where do we as a city, look at that threshold how this DMT impacts the city and where do we come in with the DMC into our general plan how to incorporate that?That is 10% again to that later those are some of the bigger topics big umbrella that we are going. As we get into the individual goals and policies,A lot of this to mitigate some of the empty Eagles impression we pick the goal of policy that let's say you thoughtWe are going to different direction with the do that that as we use brought up those are medications for these,You might have to look at the one that is little bit different or modified is still what we meet in that mitigation. The last one I kinda brought up this eventually, as we develop implementation measures as impact fees and programs associated with that,That is all the result of all this is something to keep in mind as we are going through this, because that is all the staff is implemented down the road. And those are all levers, and comments, and ideas that we can take moving forward from the commission that were looking for some guidance. To help usPush this general and to the right direction.There's multiple maps a lot of the maps are pulled out of our Transportation plans there modified a little bitEven that is not datedThings are already completedAnd have been updated. Plan pedestrianImprovement, The circulation plan I call that one out because there was a lot of work done in here looks a little bit different so did the on this on,You can see,The green lines are minor materials compared to the red lines which are primary materials this different than the last one this artist are to us.Occultist out a little bit separately.All that's really doing is saying that there is a distinction in traffic volumes between minor andPrimary we just wanted to make sure we can call out separately to move forwardAnd is more consistent with the Cal trans layout of howTheir. We have updated a lot of the apparent roads as you can see in the section I tookThere in here now. It has been incorporated into the circulation maps all of this of this is lived on over 20 years specific plans,Causes of bridges that have been built and that is all updated in here. If you have any comments or did is a question and that we can discuss it now as will.Is actually one of the goals it's a little bit in the same in the way that it makes sense to me between level services DMD and how that fits in the general plan.Education background. A little bit first level service. As graphic here ABC DEFWith the measurement of traffic flow.Measures to describe a traffic conditions traffic volume Street roadway intersection design signal timing other factors. The level of service is really what I would get up my whole career if you look at the project what are the impacts of this subdivision to the local road network. It usually goes the traffic engineers coming into play in this were gonna look at the scope of this project when we say let's have this five intersection of can be impacted by that level of service can be impacted that byThat street corridor gonna come up with those levels of impacts if they reach a certain threshold which you see see in theIf you already pass a DE or an after gonna make it worse than we have wholeMany seconds of delays in making it worse and we have a lot of guidelines that say is you gonna make it 15 seconds more delay and your impact is more than 25% of impact on the intersection so therefore you have to fix it and build your way out of that intersection. As on the traffic impacts analysis guidelines that we have is a documented of the city. All those kind of standards are in their net level standard in our service has been fleshed out we have that rewired. We have to kind of rethink that but is level service standard metric that we use a look at subdivision will still work is just how we implemented is a little different than we have in the past we had to use DMT particular LOS per policy in general plans were gonna screw those two up and so he is both and we are only doing thisSuper to get your DMT studying and you look at at the DMT meet CEQA in the second phase is will look at level service listed meet our guidelines and the impact analysis guidelines?Why does the state next LOSThis a little bit different but this little circlePat of how things happenIt starts with the congestion in the topic engineers kick in the residence goal for road widening and you widen the road, no congestion on the roadway so that is right, so that people move further out to go to the subdivision. And then land prices rise and then we rezoned some lands to create more subdivisions for the route that is not really applyBut in talking about the state and why they would do something like that. Subdivisions and businesses move out more residents now travelAndMove to let's say in a recent move to Cottonwood and traveled to Costco because of small lanes. Congestion develops and conditions our second characteristic look at that is That is not a sequel thing because that is not an environmentalBenefits are actually making an environment worse in their perspective.Your encouraging sprawl your discouraging insults and larger roadways produce There what you are seeing take the four or five lanes or six lanes are eight lanes or 10 or 12.People kept moving further to be creating big names in cycle continues that we need to put a stop on a cycle they note this for 10 years been working on this. The BMT came into play, their solution to solving efforts equal we had to address nowWhat is VMT calculated by multiplying the number of vehicle trips that a proposed development will generate by the estimated number of miles driven per trip. So basically if you have a sod division and is right in town, there are 10 trips per house like going 1 mile but if theyRightThe and 6 miles of trip and then timestamp her household and thatVehicle travel is multiply that. We have a lot more vehicle travel. How do you do reduce that vehicle miles traveled for SQL and how do you measure it? The metric from measurement. The state guidelines, specifically, 50% below the existing BMTPer capita of the region. A little bit difficult to understand will try to do my best you have your baseline the empty versus the traffic demand model. You have a project, and the baseline is set. The project comes in and is way out on all sorts of town. It's gonna be 15% of the average of the traffic demand model what would the basicSubdivision internally. When you look at thatThis can be a significant impact to the environment fixativeDoes 50% above the average for community. This can be the case you have to mitigate for that and come up with mitigations as a project. That is where we have to then take two approaches to this. We have to look at the project as the general plan, we also have to look at all the projects that can come after this. Subdivisions developments, shopping centers or whatnot. When I was looking atGeneral plan so we are saying the project is the city's gonna build for 20 years planning all the land use for 20 years all the residents are coming is are gonna be enoughI will appeal to see this in a crate of EMT impacts with this general plan? If soWe had to make it work. What they say in your general plan, and to come up with policies goals implementation measures that are going to mitigate for that VMT impact. Now, we haven't done that full study because it's going to be part of the SQL document and were looking at all that. There is going to be the empty impact and we have to do our best to show the state that we are doing our medications for VMT. So, a lot of the goals and policy we are addressing that the empty impact in this, the good thing about developers perspective, they come in right now the VMT I'm in the project this can impact the VMT on the outskirts of town, it is actually pretty rare because you look a lot of VMT studies to the city of Reading and many of them are not showing an impact because we are pretty contained as an individual city a lotAnd if you are looking at the positiveIn the Anderson we are trying to come to the cityBut it's pretty unlikely you seeThe anti-over the 15% rash ? ? threshold.When you get the VMC that could have a potential impact to the VMT threshold, they have to mitigate it somehow.If you don't have this general plan in place with mitigations in place, they have to come up with their own mitigations to solve their own problem for their subdivision.The subdivision out there might sayI have to get people out of the car somehow, that this mean I'm gonna build a biplane or path or changer ? a change of rows or bus passes some other multi-model solution to that subdivisionOnce you have this mitigation in place, the subdivision can depend on what they've done in general plan and say, the city already done the work for the VMT Houston mitigation in placeI can depend on that and I can mitigate my subdivision. There is some positives to thatAnd.So, moving on is phosphor second that is a lot of information the city had buddy have a question is actually the one of the goalsIs the address deviancyAny comments or thoughts or ideas? >>Can you go over the mitigation options I heard you say bus routes, it seems like there is some standards what are those? >>The goal is to figure out what are the options for trips so if you have 10 trips from household into town, what are the other options? There's only a few you could carpool, you could take transit you can take a bike you could walkAnything other than a motor vehicle is what the state would like to see is those types of options. Or combine the people in vehicles so, trips single vehicle trips are to be avoided so you know have multiple people on a vehicleThat's a lot of solutions, and try to think of what's other more creative ones are. Managing parking downtown is a solution. Because then people more encouraged to may be read together were look at transit or look at other options. Alternative thingsIs my favorite topic right now but that is one thing that I'm familiar with there's a lot of different ways address the emptyAnd there isThe goal is to make the motor transportation operation.You can sub sub ? ? subscribe to Vice Chair the programSo again people can depend on our processes as a city the VMT goals. In a lot of ways to me that that there is some of the top of my head.This a little bit of a graphic a lot of people kind of considered road design more recently it was this that look like what do you want to see? Look at this larger rooms Is nerves wants to see a nice open road that has not very congested.And then in economists you want to see traffic and activity and bustling and some sort that is a level is an empty road is is F. Hunter to be true from other perspectives. I was talking to on will change company that is coming to town in a day, there were looking at the need side out there. The only reason you segment that site is because a number of volumes of vehicles on the road and a number passed by trips and that is so high. And so from economists point of view a lot of businesses looking at that and go I wanted Mrs. Road I can find That something is very attractive. There's different ways to look at this roads may not be the right or wrong but this is just different ways to look at the road and we don't want to focus on hundred percent in here. So what does that mean for LOS house with just a little is now moving forward, do you still use the metric, we do. The basic reason is when you put the subdivision anywhere in town and effectsOasis Already impacted if he put the subdivision therapy didn't have LOS in place, it would be very difficult for us in the city to say that developer you have to pay that signal now he put 50 more units over the impacted traffic in that location. Ellis is already in place is important to for us to look at those very directed impacts. It is not a part of SQL anymore. How do we implement this?In the past when you can depend on those mitigations for SQL, it is a very strong condition for the development that they cannot avoid or get around and a lot us ? it also allows the public to use it as a tool to kind of hold their feet to the fire. We used to look at that as a significant impact is there going to impact that signal. Nowadays with VMT, it is almost the opposite images like you looking at those traffic congestion issues and it is almostFrom a historical perspective not a bad hammer. It is almost a good thing it encourages multimodal transportation.The community that would not be greatWe have LOS to make sure that people the community at a level and standard that makes sense. So, we are looking at the that we consider the LOS threshold that is see that whatThat is what we've done and were not thinking that it's not proposed to be changed except for downtown intersections recall transcript or cross and it can go talk to the. That is the standard that we have reviewed for many years. That is a Threshold in a policy that we use for the LOS and all the way we implement this moving forward is the traffic Impact analysis we talked about the seconds of delay or impacted in your percentage of your impact from your project that interest or section is significant enough that we say that you have to correct that impact to address the general plan policies that he put in here.And so,The difference between it is not part of the SQL now it is a policy that we have to meet in that will put in a traffic impact now guidelinesIt is a bit of a challenge but is something different. It is not impossible. So what's gonna do for the city we have to update a lot of policies and documents the capital improvement project list we updated at a regular basis can be little different very similar process it as a more complete streetsAnd maybe some more projects that we would incorporate some of those multi-modelActivities. Traffic impact the analysis is switching the and of his time as you may have start looking at that again based on the CIP. I mentioned the traffic impact analysis guidelines determine what events are going to be need to be addressed as part of development and so allAll of these things still work better than how to VMT perspective instead of the LOS Perspective but the LOS is still going to be the standard measurementAs part of those projects.Any questions on that specifically LOS and project development?None, okay. >>It was one of my questions from, This is page 35But talks about Cypress Avenue having a low level of service, Low of LOSAnd it talks about an exemption the city Council can apply to promote businesses in that area even if they can't. I just didn't quite understand that because were talking about LOS and wantedThrow it in there I noticed the right time.Does that make sense?It is packagedPage number 35.AttachedManagement a general update transportation no element by the city of Reading. >>ThatIs what I'm talking about a little bit of a challenge the common is you might have a situation, It is Costco or Cyprus would not this projects in a saying in the past if you have a significant impact on the roadway will you have to do is you have to go to use CEQAIf you wanted to exceedThe levels of service and say that this is an important project for the city this can be some impact we have to figure out a way to make this happenThis the city also should do. It is not a see quote document now in the SQL issue, You don't have to the IR to brakes those policiesYou need to go back to the city council and break the structural.This project is important And so suspect you might see that more often.Okay, great.New goals and policies that have been added in the general plan.All of what we have in the general plan we did a pretty good jobWe don't have to do it to much.We Have elements of medicated the VMT and made up policies it allows us to move in the next centuries. We are looking at, And our focus group is how do we start connecting the network?Let's focus on trying to connect to the biking and pet network in a more comfortable fashion. SometimesMight add a biplane but is not a comfortable area. Must be offstreet, were attorney Creek or 1/4 there a separate path Instead of my focus on a comfortable roadway.We added some policies to address some of those new facilities or new infrastructure projectsThe every time someone makes that shift it makes or helps the city throughout the network are VMT goals, a lot of different things are said they list all the things are getting impacted and somebody stepped out of the car and write a different type of transportation. Policies in general plan will allow the city to be more competitive is absolutely it is more competitive at all. If you don't have some of these poses no plan you wouldn't compete with them some of these applications are getting 400 applicants 40 grants and so if you don't have some of the basics in your general plan are not going to be competitive. Will provide measures of city for alternative transportation modes again that is the more safety the more comfortable peopleGet that shift and make it more sufficient. I added this,This is the west side of town,Over here, and the step side of the screen in the blue is one of her newestCalled the BU stripBut he can see all other colors are granted to something in West side and how they are starting to tie together and work together as a network. The blue network It goes from downtown on Jazz Street all the way to pleasantActually covers of that plasma airport terminal dollar grant. The starting to show how the network is starting to tie together. The big piece of that grant was connected through the neighborhoods looking at you StreetMaking that a low stress networkGonna go under the airport open spaces. The nice thing about thisIt is really accomplishing those goals before we put them in place that is really the endgame of all thoseGoals develop thoseA type of network and connect them together. On the site here can see her VictorStart the enterprise route. The green is a new project that is in designGoing from Arnell to Cyprus the purple top is a brand-new grantor for Victor North Another Tendler granted to Scott this year.That will connect up to hire 44 and to VictorAnd it connects to the neighborhoodIt is not just a roadway network it is a big focus a lot of money and effort to focus on Cyprus and Victor, it is a big portion of itA lot of tipperAnd can you improve those who can get a lot more. When I mentioned that traffic impact fees and how those implementsThis grant projects , their amazing leverage tools you can take $1 million and 10 and turn it to $10 million to this grant programs if you don't have this policy in place those grants are impossible to obtain for the city.Another goal,Any comments before going to the school? >>At this point,Do weWant to go on each oneBefore we go to the 10 general goals >>I think you want to do not looking forward to another with emotion here, something that we are passing this really looking for guidance from the commission as a whole, regarding each one of these,I think going to the specific goals you don't need to get intoEvery common and trust theOn each one gonna look for some of the overall year? >>Want to have a point of clarification Can you explain the hierarchy of implementation measures policies and goalsAre you all enforceable in the same way how does this work how do we decide? >>We could let me take you this stuff is pretty simple because a lot of these In the last general plan for example, Is an implementation I am to to a or 21 identify Empire networks is number two number three isPlan permits and standard this type of limitation measures are things that were going to do as we develop grantsAs we look at projects are due types of things when you get into policies that hierarchy above that this can be if I'm looking atA lot of timesIt applies more to the outside as far as development or project comes in and gonna sayDoes not meet the policies of the general plan and our goals of the city to have a policy that tells us that we have to be looking at thoseNetworksIf I have the subdivision commando policies due to a applies to you and you have to do those types of things. These implementation measures, which are almost on my and to look at a staff Into the future develop these plans and develop these grants and develop these funding mechanisms to kind of produce these types of things. I think based on that way in my mind in the goals of the over arcing this chapter categories the kind and risk together you that this work. >>Can you give an example of one like T-1, I'm looking atImplementation measure the 182That seems likeAnd of limitation mentor to me but I look at 2183, require development project to dedicate street right-of-way constructed both on and off site and improvements as appropriate to provide axis that to me sounds like a little bit more like policy so can you explain maybe why oneIs and one is it? >>I think the difference in my mind would be the policy says a turn for the and ensure that completes infrastructure constructed and improves conversation? I will look at itThis project has meant that policy so if I'm doing my documentsFindings for approval for subdivision would say, and I use that policy and get back to this one, implementation measure 2183 is going to be again back to the staff to look at the project in condition and in such a way that it has to do these types of things.And so, where are making more findings that the project that meets the general policies that is one thing this implementation called for I had to you ASAP and make sure it and condition to this project to dedicate street right-of-way to construct these on improvements there is a differentiation there it to the developer has to do to prove the scope and type of project policy measures and staff has to implement this things the back of the network. >>Would be easier for the staff and the planning commission other bodies to condition projects if they were Politics versus implementation measures? >>It could workThat way that is possible. >>The goal(INAUDIBLE) to achieve Particular topic you need a different set of tax which are qualities that is everything that goes under the goal but then implementation measure is an action item how do we get to it. That's how it is designed implement tension measures that always policy will could be implementation measured? Whatever is implementation measure to one plan may not be the same to another plan out. There is always an unknown topic eventually you will get to decide what has to be taken as a policy and will to be a implementation measure.Thank you doing that for all of the elements going forward. >>Further comments on the one? >>IWill summarizeI needed to gonna follow my line of thought. >>We did leave of on the two I think four of the goals that have (INAUDIBLE) >>[ CROSSTALK ] >>I have a summer at the and we can recap the goals in order last night. >>Let's do that. >>We are on safety, safety, again this another one of those federal and state guidelines that we wanted toEnhance of it because there's a lot of funding that's coming towards the safety elements of the city and how you develop your road network. Vision zero is oneSome kind of a trendyKind of way to address safety in a commonsense policy that says our goalOf our city would like to see zero Dawson roadway. How to get there and how to get to that point and there's some balls associated with that there's actually She's been very helpful in helping some of framing thisGoals is actually requirement you have a vision zero goal or policy that addresses these types of things.Religion in the roadway you sent to focus things on This can a reduced level of safetyIs going to increase safety for modes of travel.That type of thing isImportant to get a relook at these types of projects and then also for multimodal transportation safety, any other type we received by explain transportation does reduce them on the road how do we keep those people safeSome thing that we add in this element.And comments and thoughts? Going forward,Complete state that is another goal just want to bring it in because it doesn't tie into what we are talking about it actually works very well with the VMT. I wanted to address the total bit more deeply and complete streets relook at our Road net rate? ? Network looking at vehiclesYes are also look at the safety of the entire network to the complete streets. We're looking at these facilities as how do we get bikes Or pads how do we getYou bikes or other electronic,How do you get transportation devices to the network. Safety wise, some of these groups if you can put some of that mode and shift into the side padsOur columns, The more you have those rows developed a better your streets can function. Again it is alsoThe cost of saving as well because you can say I don't have to put that extra lane at a signal as to roadway because now I have distant peakHold off and people are using other modes of transportation.Were looking at all those elements and aspects in a complete street to make sure that we have those elements met. Convince you that is already in there with this kind of bring it into the empty was modified a few little tweaks here and there but eventually those are coming the been doing that for8 to 10 years now and it's been pretty successful.Moving forward, the summary, I went through the first five, in general anymore thoughts and ideas on that the new mobile number six. Number six downtown,All this Las policies and goals are the existing general plan.We have tweaked the policies and tweak the languageGot a few things here and there but it's broken up into policies and implementation measures but doesn't haveIs not of full new chapter something of that nature. But we can go Three of them quickly. Downtown,They put in and do more policy to talk about with the give exceptions forDowntown for everything for parking, for height , For density and what is that mean if you put in a project that is a 30 story high rates of traffic,You better consider that. If you have the project in this an element new policy that addresses, How do we incorporate that until we have the traffic study and then get some alternative ideas and how to address those multi-neural operations downtownMight be bike share or transitMost of the things that address VMTIn some of the schools. Parking, we can skip that one.There's some politics about parking and that's about actually addresses the VMT of sin that already. I'm seeing the results of thisGetting many calls of how do I is your carpool parking is there to ride my motorcycle electric bike, can IWhat are other options you have your shuttles,That is happening that's kind of organic but that is actually one of the policies in the parking goals.Regional transportation planning,Is this up all those little bit we talk about connecting the smalltime model transportation models within our justice ? ? jurisdiction.Not may be hundred percent multimodal but also transportation freight and radio. Those are conversations transit is a big piece of this.In aviationAnd then we'll service and facilities. >>In regard to the parking, In many instances,Costco is a good example, Costco is the newest facility is all actually over parked in terms of what would have been required from them because of the last parking large parking hills encourage people to drive it. So I'm wondering it seems there is a gap that there is nothing in here to maybe reassessThe parking ratioOur my missing that? >>There is one little keyword that got us stuck in, his implementation manager , T7B1Establishes maximum and minimum standard for automobile parking spaces. That's definitely a new trend, It is with seen this on countless projects whereHave a standard of what would have been departed almost double of what was required. So, there are, That is a little bit different, their order shopping centers and have standard we have to have X number of spacesNeeded. We have a policy in place, the land use, your maximum is X, thenThat would go towards that goal. We haven't done that yet,Let us address our VMT goals. >>JustTraffic orders downtown developmentTheir business model can acquire? >>Correct. >>Thank you for the clarification. >>I have two small commentsPlease on 261 downtown,One,I was looking at the circulation planAsTo downtown we have this major arteries of freeway coming right into the heart of our downtown and to call transit highwaysCalifornia Street. Is there may be the high-level (INAUDIBLE) this can be really hard to get that walkable or likable elements while we still have those mainDrove cars of those high-speed.As a high-level question, any stubs on getting it that? >>Yes, it's logical reason that we've been having. You try to address that on edges that is we are workingThrough that. There is no director of policy coming out that we are hopeful that could help with this direction called the MainStreet policy.It is in a couple TDs now the China trying with the main Street policy with electricity. There might be some specific set of conditions and different to what they want or would for a highwayAre you a bit produced juicy action.? Jurisdiction. You really beholden to call chance their requirements for at this point. There's a couple of efforts from the regional transportation organization reliving some plans for the 274 Quarters. There's a big going on right nowSay that is basically the culture insisting on producing bordereau in California. Were working our best to make sure that that is consistent with the goals for general plan in our downtown to try to meet those walkable, will likable downtown goals. Where it feels like outside of planning CaliforniaIs like a boundary were gonna connect those pieces together. >>Second. this case, having these kind ofThe goal language is how we can save (INAUDIBLE)Are going to continue working on it is a kind of out of control. >>That is correct. I didA couple more positives downtown piece to try to enhance it even more butSo much we can do. >>The only other comment that I have wasAnd you referenced earlierI am ? TBT six ? one. The traffic studyOne Other thanThe blocks and markets and urging them to? Subsidized? California projects are not still seeing a lot of market rateOr subsidize project in downtown. To me, I would implement something like this very carefully for goal is to see Heights and that adding another burden on developers were not even seen that happen, aside from major subsidies,That makes me a little bit nervous. >>I considered perspective. The goal of the policy was right to say that there are some exceptions but I could also have the opposite effect were looking at some other impactsWe will work in that language a little bit. >>Just a quick follow-up to my question regarding large parking feels that being over parked I have to a man did thatThis is a concernIn many communities.The changes are being maintained and the developers, retailers, are being confronted with perhaps more restrictions onThis is a huge parking fields. I would like to see under that parking section either adding implementation measures to be oneOr create another that would say reevaluate maximum and minimum standards for commercial development. >>Excellent. >>So we are looking at implementing the maximum standard of working further developments. CitywideBig >>That would be my position I can see why parking limitations should be unique to downtown. And I think that, sometimes it is just happens organically even look at Mount Chester Mall there is a huge parking fee that has now someFreestanding buildings Inc. introduced large parking because he realized that persuasive real estate that was a waste of money and they are getting better return on their value building outThe nonuse parking spaces. I don't think it's gonna(INAUDIBLE) let's reevaluate those a look at those age parking fields in light of hope what is happening in other communities and what really willCommercial development settle for. That exactly what hers see across the counties.That is very common it would be nice to have thatThe >>Makes the projectNo longer economically viable.Like in Costco the max is thisCan we can do it.Certainly will take a look at nature with the cart carefully. >>I recommend going back to 125 I think we are newer and contained newer pieces and parts of it. Start there it was can happen quickly there's no comments orQuestion will move on to the next one. >>Okay,125 really covered a lot of a very similar kind of as a group. If I don't want to go through those and go through any of these specific goalsBut any other data questions on 125 but in orderFeedback directly on those five goal topics? >>Looking at the one,CLOS level of service action in the goalOn page 35 I didn't see it 21.It is not there can be added in there? >>We actually have a speaker card I think itMight be the time to do this before we get into our direct comments on the goals through 1 to 10. In of God Potentially to hear,Ms. Nelson I got two cards for you both are indicating public comment. [ FAINT AUDIO ]I think you will reserve that one.With that first,Our first speaker,Mr. FredWhen an item 5A. >>Good afternoon planning commissioners,The presentation so far by Mr.VernonIs very visionary.I've lived here since in writing forSince 1995,I walkedTown driver in the city observingJust what's going on in Reading. And I think writingIs on the verge of exploding in so many different ways. PopulationReading is always has been. I understand from the 40s and was come to Redding and watched Reading growContinually. We all know that Reading is the hub of Northern California, and I would like to seePlanning commissionNot only implement some of the items that Mr. Boney is talking about but the visionary of the far future and implement something likeLight rail from downtown to Dana. I think they are ready for it. Within five years, Portland Salt Lake City other cities, Right across the tech pimento bridge on 44.Hopefully that would reduce the clutter traffic provide more safety for bicycles andInvolving environment in general. This oneLittle area. Quality 11.Everything that I want to mention gorgeous transportation, as you know, other cities in California around the nation are implementing free bus rides. I would likeThe commission toInvestigate that to see the plus and minus of free bus rides.I mean totally free rides.You have invented minds you will be able toFigure that out.The grants federal state, more advertising. The third point in looking at, Time is up.Signage, I have many friends as you will do, businesslike country Heights,It is surrounded byDry burnable combustibleLandscaping, trees and bushes, etc. I was able to find my way outOf 20 heights in an easy matter to get out onto Highway 299. I suggest that whoeverHis falls under, sign it just stays way out or whateverEven on foot. That is a liability situation for the city.And that is my comment thank you very much for your time. >>Thank youWe appreciate that. I agree Would you on that signage part.Is it happens. >>Also do my best. I've been going to the city department since 1995 looking for answers I've been waiting a long time.When I moved in there, there was a blockade I lived onThere was a blockage I knew that road was going to go through I was told that. In others to that. But when Mr. Warren came to me and said you want to put that through (INAUDIBLE)Were gonna take venous way all the way through your Travis gonna be minimum never happened. All the traffic counts down tests and you follow through Castlewood and don't ask me why they don't go down to ranch and go straight across but they believe it is a corner.I was told by the city engineers on the net (INAUDIBLE) recorder was improperly engineered. And I believe that is so. You are intoBig sweeping corners. Just after my subdivision,They put in the fountains toSlow that down. I didn't get that. It took me years to finally getting(INAUDIBLE) IslandDivided that areaTheAnd then they got used to that. I personally, paid $3000 per table narrowed. But that is how I'm trying to make this neighborhood hadI don't have a fire marshal, BecauseThe strips of vegetation, you got vegetation Illegal (INAUDIBLE) up against fences, Trees,We took all 800 feet out (INAUDIBLE)And clear it all out. I am trying myself, I'm not expecting everything from you.We've had 10 accidents on the corner.Is serious accident. Parking from the north to that curb took on to my lawn when two houses downWent through their garage into their carShoulder car,Into their water heater and into the(INAUDIBLE) it is an insane corner. My brother's traffic engineer for there's no reason why this can't be around (INAUDIBLE) and came to the city Council, and I was told just this way, Tina, you will neverSee around about entrance review. Okay and guess what we got and test review around about the Lord.Between this little island,In the table which are not is to is slowing down again. What I want to know and I keep asking what is your plan for such asAs much as review?(INAUDIBLE)I've been told is and before lanes. Oh my God it is a nightmare already.You will never see Chester view(INAUDIBLE)I area (INAUDIBLE)To far away? I gotta be joking. Personally, I think anybody on Chester view.On everything you do on Cheshire view,Just put a little walkway for people to simply go on the part Two Serbia states (INAUDIBLE)They bring logins, if you putThis on a blind cornerAre you planning on putting lights thereFor thatTo make that a safe place to cross?I being a long time,I'm sorry,I used to live on off the Mason opinion long enough, we It was poorly, do some major traffic way north and south, everybody took it it was dangerous. The(INAUDIBLE)What do we do, we open up Victor.Because more boys, I'm praying to God that I have been working on this forever, pleaseDo just review so that we don't kill more children. Do not make it a 4 Lane Rd. You need to have islands more islands. One reasonThese people I think in onThe come from the north, and I look at this,Once you get near ourPlace, you think about your driving, if you look to the left lane what did the you go for the left, when people looking at there's no island next to Durga and their drunk they did in the trees,The Schedule B address it is a nightmare. >>Thank you very much. I appreciate it and normallyBut to come here and attend to speak on the transportation developmentMight give you as a time. Is the right group with the right people in the room to hear that today. You want to hear from the public. And as well I think the future there's more scoping this cannot be more community engagement some other things we can get specificThe Tucson todayAnd I wouldn't mind I'll be happy to go over some things with you myself.Just a look at test review and the growth in that area and transportation in that is cited studies portion, it is a very big part of this. I thank you for your time. >>Maybe afterwards. >>I was on the road open ? all the wrong.(INAUDIBLE)I couldn't tell where I'm supposed to go beefFor the life of actingIt is very dangerous. >>Appreciated, thank you much.All right, with that, Commissioner Hatch, We will hit one through five. >>That was to start my comment. I believeThe measurement ? intimidation ? three, Scott Hayden, T-1 a ? three course development projectIt is appropriate to provide access Connectivity uses. And not degrade the peak our elements below the adopted threshold northMulti-performance standard. In this what to talk about essentially writing of the city Council may edit sole discretion to determine the condition of the EllisIs appropriate given the extraordinary circumstances ofThe project proposed. It shall be based on the regional travel demand model or otherReview matters. >>Is this document very adult dose levels of service or is that a different document? I didn't hear SpecificYou >>Reference back to thatIn the document whichExceptions for the that is a document or you can talk about it here orThat level of service is part of this document. >>(INAUDIBLE)In 20 years, that would be helpful to have it. That section >>You pulled over here and verify that the >>Then looking at some of the bicycle improvements, wondering if he should haveAbout your implementation measure on bicycle safety programs and corporateDaughter refuses to enforce bicycle safety. Or incorporating some language aboutGPM pavement repairsFor those by grace? >>[ CROSSTALK ] >>I'm 21. >>As we could've put that here maybe even in safety and elements for educational programs we doThat may become that is a goal or policyThat would be great it comes into play when we do our ramps and you have to explain How educational programs work together. And that is a laudable (INAUDIBLE). >>But in the twoBut also in the one Check having some language some safe routes to school I believe that was may be in the previous document but no no I didn't see itIn outer keyword search. >>That is true.Deductible a lot of our school safety for many years with those elementsIt is actually grant program for many years back that we applied for it. Kinda comforting after transportation program. It is not quite the same. But it is an element of thatAfter transportation. We could call it out a little bit more via language and year-round school so there's been a very large discussion the two had is come up very often recently around elementary schools and neighborhoodsOf the dissidents we've done the recently around mistletoe and chassis Meadows Manzanita, and the orders are to be in address safety. It is becoming more of an issue asThe hills and bikes and pets conflictIt is something that they want to look at. Something we could address I think. >>Moving to D3, I'm curious this micro transit mean things like electric scooters or invites are some things? >>Yes you can and move of the term of the bed. We working on the shared mobility devices some other terms of reducing. That is everything from Shared by programs toScooters and so other devices out there but mostly were looking at shared programs are talking about nonprofit or managing a program per se not just somebody individual device is a bit cannot make that distinguish. >>Remote working on my crewMobility is a new logo that in here about safety. EspeciallyWhat productions and with other bikes. >>After go through the safety elements there's one in here that I can add that to.Working on that ordinanceThat permit that was longer that. As we speak, where the process of working Inside the public works department. It would be a good time to kind of bring that forward to. >>I'm moving to the four, the morning if we could incorporate some language about greater street connectivity especially inSubdivisions are things like that, using like agree to modify greed based on primary state system searching (INAUDIBLE) don't allow for traffic. Better traffic calming on measures of Mike help with neighborhoods. >>I have some of language and here's a bit of the discussion because there's a lot of elements to that is a good topic. It's a good point. Subdivisions yes, the conductivity ? ? connectivity, we want more seclusion for a lot of reasons fire access emergency access all those types of things.We get into trouble, it's got to traffic and we have the flipside people want close the streets and sold him down and not have the people go through their neighborhood, And try to figure out how we manage it and this direct access points that may get you through a neighborhood faster if you go at full speed that is to be discouraged with the same time,That grid network is important that language is, to put it in here a little bit but it could be brought forth a bit more definitely need at least two points of access it with that in there for emergency access sometimes 34 subdivision, and greeted point of access especially on the west side or is a high fire hazard zones. And not do the other talking the highest 2 miles of subdivision to the very and and cul-de-sac and just at that and you can get to grocery store or minimart to get a Glassman if he wanted to. [ LAUGHING ] That is a challenge of those along cul-de-sac,There is a balance we try to do that. Makes a down in testing a ranch we make the conductivity that we are making is is fairly vehiclesSo what you are making is at the and if you look down there is a very little on the, Then of the cul-de-sac the big solid walls and go all the way to just review so you can walk through then of the cul-de-sac to the main street of Chester view Drive and is open to bike and pass they can get on the Big Ten food while separated side wooden go to the school through the ends of the cul-de-sac and not having to weave back to neighborhoodOn your bike or walking and is all interconnected. Disconnected maybe not vehicle connected with the proviso connectivity promotes those goals after trying to accomplish. That is one way to get that connectivityThe distance of theFire escape routes we have to so for all we can just solve this reports.We weaved throughout, the fire safety, fed walkable communities that is in there.You are suggesting more like gridded network for subdivisions in Canada question,An integrated language to that direct aspect but I think we can encourage that type of thing until bit more onMy NACA the cupFull of? Couple of (INAUDIBLE).You can go by yourLast meal or go to groceries for us. Those are raised toWe can add to the VMT and makes useThat have dedicated network were gonnaTogether. >>25 student the design on the sidewalks(INAUDIBLE) adequateSidelines, This for safety and security, we could Make our sidewalks feel comfortable and welcoming. >>Acting like the visibility of the sidewalk like for safety that you not tucked away somewhere is the kind of thing or >>Yes similar toLegacy aheadPer person or an obstacle or something like that Like sometimes to react. >>YesSafety design, There's a policy that I can look up where you talk about the type ofSafety works like we wereLighting at night.If you put it on the safety element.Were specifically for the perspective of the security and safety feeling.That comes a lot of different angles on me to be safer parcel off other element we can address thatAnd of site development. >>Yes those are great.Further comments? All of the things that we run into we've got a largeBarriers got I five we have the ri