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>>> GOOD EVENING. WE WILL CALL THE ROPE. [ ROLL BEING CALLED ] >> AS REQUIRED BY LAW, THE AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING WAS POSTED ON ASK THE COMMISSION FOSTER FOR LEECHES INTO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TONIGHT. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE PUBLIC IN WHICH IT STANDS, WHEN NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU. MR. SECRETARY, ARE THERE CONTINUANCES OF ANY ITEM OUT WITH THAT ON THE AGENDA? >> THERE ARE NO WITHDRAWALS THIS TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA OR TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSIONER ON ANY AGENDA ITEM, WE PLEASE FILL OUT CITIZENS COMMENT CARD NEXT TO THE PODIUM AND HEADED TO THE CLERK. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO HAS SUBMITTED A COMMENT CARD? >> THERE ARE NONE. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. MR. SECRETARY, ARE THERE ANY PRESENTATIONS FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING? >> MADAM CHAIR, NO. NO RESERVATIONS FOR THIS EVENING. THE THE GUN TO THE CALENDAR THEN. I CALL FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ITEMS THEY WOULD LIKE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR TO BE CONSIDERED SEPARATELY AND IF NOT, DO I HEAR A MOTION? COMMISSIONER FOSTER. >> I MOVE ERIC >> A SECOND. THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT. WE NOW COME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE AGENDA. WITH THE SECRETARY PLEASE READ THE NEXT ITEM. >> GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. YES, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE USE PERMIT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY GRANTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BACK LAST YEAR IN DECEMBER AND THIS WAS FOR ALLOWING A MASSAGE THERAPY ESTABLISHMENT WITHIN AN EXISTING 800 SQUARE FEET REAL-WORLD COMMERCIAL SPACE. THE APPLICANT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT REQUESTING A MODIFICATION TO PERMIT AND ALLISON HOSKIN, ASSOCIATE PLANNER, WILL BE PRESENTING THE ITEM TONIGHT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, JOHN. GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. AS JOHN MENTIONED, THIS IS AN APPLICATION THANK YOU, JORDAN. COULD YOU ALSO REDIRECT THE SCREEN IF THERE? THANK YOU. OKAY. SO THIS IS AN APPLICATION REQUESTING MEDICATION FOR USE PERMITS FOR THE ORIGINALLY APPROVED ON DECEMBER 13th, 2022. SO BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, SALLY LANGE FILED A PLANNING APPLICATION FOR USE PERMIT TO ESTABLISH YOUR BUSINESS. BLUESTEIN MASSAGE THERAPY. WITH A ONE OF THE SIX. YOU APPROVED THE USE PERMIT ON DECEMBER 13th AND ABOUT A MONTH LATER ON JANUARY 20th, 2022, THE PROPERTY OWNER CONTACTED THE PLANNING PERMIT SAYING THAT THE PERMIT WAS TERMINATED. THE PREPARATORY REQUESTED PERMISSION TO REMODEL THE INTERIOR. UNFORTUNATELY, CONDITIONS IN THE APPROVED RESOLUTION, NUMBER 10210, DID NOT ALLOW FOR ANY INTERIOR ALTERATIONS TO THE TENANT SPACE, AND THEREFORE, IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING. THE GOAL IN PLAZA SHOPPING CENTER WHERE THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY A HALF ACRE PARCEL ON THE EAST SIDE OF RAILROAD AVENUE BETWEEN EL CAMINO AND EL DORADO DRIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. THE PARCEL CONTAINS AN APPROXIMATELY 5400 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING WITH SIX TENANT BASIS AND A SIDE AND REAR PARKING LOT. THIS IS HOW THE BUILDING IS LAID OUT. THE PROPOSED MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENT WOULD OCCUPY ONE OF THE SIX TENANT SPACES AND BE LOCATED BETWEEN A HAIR BRAIDING SALON IN THE RESTAURANT. OTHER TENANTS OF THE PLAZA INCLUDE TWO OTHER RESTAURANTS. I'M NOT GOING TO PRONOUNCE US PROPERLY. I HOPE I DO. ALSO, RUBY NILES PAUL IS THERE. TO THE NORTH OF THE PROJECT SITE IS AMIGOS MARKET. TO THE SOUTH, HERNANDES INCOME TAX. ACROSS RAILROAD AVENUE IS OIL CHANGERS CRAWFORD CHRISTIAN CENTER AND OTHER SERVICE BUSINESSES AND TO THE EAST, YOU SEE THERE IS A LARGE PHASE SENT PARCEL WITH THE FORT KNOX FACILITY BEYOND. THERE IS A MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE BUSINESS SIDE FROM RAILROAD, LIKE OTHER STOREFRONTS AT THE PLAZA. I HAVE OUTLINED THAT HERE. THIS DOUBLE DOORWAY LEADS TO A 315 SQUARE FOOT GALLEY STYLE HALLWAY, WHICH IS ALL UNUSED SPACE FOR THE CURRENT OPERATIONS. ONCE INSIDE THE HALLWAY, ON THE LEFT SIDE, THERE ARE THREE SEPARATE STORES AND THEY EACH LEAD TO 100 SQUARE FOOT SUITES, WHICH THEY INTENDED TO LEASE. ALSO, THERE IS A SHARED RESTROOM AT THE END OF THE HALLWAY. THE PROPERTY OWNERS SAID THEY WANTED TO INCLUDE THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING. SO THERE IS A LOT GOING ON ON THE SIDE, BUT I'M GOING TO STEP YOU THROUGH THIS. ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SLIDE IS THE FLOOR PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED. YOU SEE THE SHARED RESTROOM BACK HERE . THE LONG GALLEY STYLE HALLWAY THAT GOES FROM FRONT TO BACK IN THE THREE MASSAGE ROOMS. THE CHANGES BEING PROPOSED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER ARE CIRCLED IN RED. THE THE MIDDLE PORTION OF THE HALLWAY TO A RECEPTION AREA AND THE THIRD WOULD LOOK TO CONVERT THE FIRST PORTION OF THE HALLWAY, JUST INSIDE THE MAIN ENTRY INTO A MASSAGE ROOM. THIS COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED BY ERECTING FIVE NEW WALLS WITHIN THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL SPACE AND I'VE SHOWN THIS ON THE NEW FLOOR PLAN, WHICH IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SLIDE. SO STARTING WITH THE EMPLOYEE BREAK ROOM HERE. TWO NEW WALLS WILL BE BUILT IN ROOM NUMBER ONE, ENCLOSING A NEW TOILET. THIS AREA WOULD NOT BE UTILIZED AS A MASSAGE ROOM. ONE NEW RAW WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED BELOW THE NEW BREAKROOM. THIS WOULD CREATE A WALKWAY FROM THE RECEPTION AREA INTO THE MASSAGE ROOMS. THE FRONT ENTRY HERE WOULD BE LOCKED AND A WALL THIRD MASSAGE ROOM IN THE PREVIOUS UNDERUTILIZED HALLWAY. AND THEN A FIFTH WALL WOULD BE ERECTED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HALLWAY CREATING THE RECEPTION AREA. AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL , THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN BUILDING PERMITS. FOR THESE PROPOSED INTERIOR REMODEL IMPROVEMENTS AND PRIOR TO FINAL APPROVAL OF THE BUILDING PERMITS, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN A FINAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY ON THE BUILDING DIVISION. GORDON PLAZA HAS A REAR AND SIDE PARKING LOT CONTAINING 26 PARKING LAWS FOR TENANTS. MOST OF THE PARKING IS IN THE REAR. THERE IS SOME PARKING ON THE SIDE. NO ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES BEYOND THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS REQUIRED. WE WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT SINCE ACCESS TO THIS TENANT SPACE PACIFICALLY IS TO THE REAR SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND IT REDUCES ANY CONCERN ABOUT ENCLOSING THE FRONT PORTION OF OUR HALLWAY. THE SITE WAS REMODELED IN 2016. THE PROJECT CONTINUES TO MAKE CONSISTENCY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ITS OWN USE PUBLICATION OF THE PROPERTY. THAT COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION. I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. THE QUESTION FROM STAFF FROM THE COMMISSION? >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I HAVE A QUESTION THAT I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE EARLY SET UP THAT YOU THAT WAS COMING INTO THIS AND THEN THEY LEFT AND THEN THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING WANTS TO MAKE THESE CHANGES AND HAVE THE SAME KIND OF BUSINESS IN ITS PLACE OR AM I WRONG ON THAT? >> NO, YOU ARE SPOT ON. YOUR USE PERMIT WAS APPROVED FOR THIS PROPERTY. HOWEVER, LANGUAGE OF THE RESOLUTION WAS VERY CLEAR THAT NO INTERIOR ALTERATIONS WERE BEING PROPOSED. IT WAS PROBLEMATIC. I'M FORTUNATE THAT THE LEASE AGREEMENT FELL THROUGH BUT IT WAS PROBLEMATIC WHEN THE APPLICANT CAME BACK IN WITH A DIFFERENT FLOOR PLAN AND SO WE DISCUSSED IT AMONGST OURSELVES AND PLANNING AND HE MADE THE FINAL DECISION THAT IF THE APPLICANT WAS GOING TO BE PROPOSING A NEW FLOOR PLAN, THEY WOULD NEED A YOU . MOST EVERYTHING ELSE STAYS EXACTLY THE SAME. IT'S JUST A NEW FLOOR PLAN. >> A NEW FLOOR PLAN BUT NOT A NEW BUSINESS OWNER. SAME ORIGINAL DASH >> NO, THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD HAVE A NEW TENANT . >> A NEW TENANT. >> TO LEASE THE SPACE. CORRECT. >> WITH A NEW TENANT. >> WITH THE MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENT. CORRECT. SORRY I DIDN'T MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROBINSON. >> THANK YOU. I HAD THE SAME QUESTION. WRITERS WANTED TO BE SURE THAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WAS NOT THE SAME MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENT, BUT A DIFFERENT ONES THAT WANTED TO USE A SINGLE SPACE BUT I CAN'T THE STATION ALAS THIS BEFORE WHEN WE SAW THIS PERMIT, BUT HOW MANY MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS DO WE HAVE NOW IN THE CITY OF PITTSBURGH? >> WE HAVE FOUR. >> FOUR. >> THIS WOULD BE THE FIFTH. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, BOTH. I HAVEN'T BEEN TO THIS BUILDING, SO I'M A LITTLE UNSURE THE HALLWAY. DID THAT PROVIDE --THERE IS A BATHROOM AT THE END. THEN THAT MEAN FOR THE ENTIRE BUILDING TO USE OR DO OTHER SUITES HAVE EN SUITE BATHROOMS? >> GREAT QUESTION. THIS WEEK IS THE ONLY SUITE WHERE I'VE SEEN -- THIS GALLEY STYLE TYPE OF HALLWAY FROM THE FRONT TO THE BACK. WHEN I SPOKE TO THE APPLICANT AND HE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED THE BUILDING, THAT SEEMED LIKE SOMETHING VERY APPEALING. HOWEVER , NORMAN TO GET SHARES AT 56 SQUARE FOOT RESTROOM AT THE END OF THE HALLWAY. THE HER RATINGS ON DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. >> OKAY. >> THE TWO RESTAURANTS. >> THEY HAVE THEIR OWN? >> IF YOU ARE WONDERING WHY WE ARE LOOKING UP THERE IS BECAUSE THE HMI CAME OUT RANDOMLY DURING THE PRESENTATION, SO SOMETIMES IT GETS IN SOME OF THE COVENANT. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE ACTUAL DOOR ENTRANCES, TO WHERE THE CONVERT IN THE MIDDLE HALLWAY RIGHT NOW. YOU WILL STILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE BATHROOM. >> OKAY. >> I THINK THAT'S IT FOR RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. >> YES, I WAS LOOKING AT THE NEW PLAN. SO THE INJURY INTO THE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE INTERIM 2 AND 3. IS THAT CORRECT? THE MAIN ENTRANCE? >> THE MAIN ENTRY WILL BE THE REAR ENTRY. >> OH. OKAY. OKAY. >> IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, I LEARNED THAT NOT A LOT OF PATRONS HERE ENTER THROUGH THE MAIN DOORS. THEY COME THROUGH THE BACK DOORS. THAT'S WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKING IS AND IT WAS UNFORTUNATE THAT THIS WAS A VERY UNTRUE UTILIZED SPACE. A NEW TENANT THAT IS INTERESTED. I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THIS. I HAD EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO HAVE AN EMPLOYEE BREAK ROOM AND ALSO TO HAVE A THIRD MASSAGE. >> THAT MAKES MORE SENSE. I YOU, COMMISSIONER. >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I UNDERSTAND WHY, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT THEY ARE MAKING USE OF MORE SPACE BECAUSE THAT IS DEAD SPACE THERE. I WONDER BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL MASSAGE ESTABLISHMENTS WHERE THE WALLS BETWEEN THE NEW ROOMS, WILL THEY BE UP TO THE CEILING OR WILL THERE BE A GAP LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A PARTITION? >> GREAT QUESTION. THIS WALL -- CAN YOU SEE MY CURSOR OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT? >> YES. >> THIS WALL IS STRAIGHT. THE INDIVIDUAL DOORS CODE FROM THE FLOOR TO THE CEILING. THERE IS A DOOR HERE. THERE IS A DOOR HERE. THERE IS A DOOR HERE. THAT WALL WOULD REMAIN. HE IS PROPOSING THESE THREE WALLS TO CREATE THIS HALLWAY FROM INTO ROOMS 1 AND 2. FOLKS WOULD ENTER ROOM 3 HERE. YES, THESE WOULD BE FOR THE FLOOR TO CEILING WALLS AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE. HE CAN CONFIRM. EARLY ON, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION THAT THIS MIGHT BE A PARTITION OF SOME SORT. THIS WOULD GO HERE CREATING MORE OF A RECEPTION AREA. BUT IT WOULD BE OPEN TO THE HALLWAY TO THE REAR RESTROOM. >> A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION BECAUSE IS GOING TO BE STUCK IN THERE. HOW WILL THE VENTILATION BE IMPROVED? >> I'M NOT SURE HOW TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. >> THROUGH THE CHAIR, I'M GOING TO LET THAT APPLICANT ANSWER THAT QUESTION, SPECIFICALLY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTION FROM COMMISSION TO STAFF? IN THAT CASE, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE CANDIDATE TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK. >> HI MIKE. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. OKAY. I AM THE OWNER AND I AM PART OF THE OWNERS HERE. AT THE BEGINNING, NORMALLY, WE DON'T INVOLVE IN THE USE PERMIT APPLICATION. HOWEVER, THE TENANT SHOULD -- DOESN'T SPEAK ENGLISH WELL. SHE HIRES ACQUIRE THE PERMIT FOR HER. THAT IS DUE TO THE LUST MEDICATION BETWEEN TWO PERSONS. THE PERSON APPLIED FOR THE PERMIT TELLS THE CITY THAT MY TENANT DIDN'T NEED TO DO ANY IMPROVEMENT. IF THERE IS NO IMPROVEMENT, YOU KNOW, AS BEFORE, THERE IS NO BETWEEN THE HALLWAY IN THE ROOM. THERE IS NO DOOR. THEN, THE HALLWAY WILL BE OPEN. IF PEOPLE, IF THEY PUT A ACCESS THERE, THEY CAN WALK THROUGH ANYTIME. THEY CAN TAKE THE CASH REGISTER AWAY. IF THEY WALK IN THE MASSAGE ROOM, THEY HAVE TO GO OUT TO THE OUTSIDE AND COME BACK TO THE HALLWAY IN THE RECEPTION AREA. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. ALSO, YOU KNOW, AS A MASSAGE -- THE TENANT TOLD ME THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE SOMEWHERE TO WASH THEIR HEADS ALL THE TIME. THEY USE THE SHARED BATHROOM TO WASH THEIR HANDS, AND SOMETIMES THE BATHROOM HAS SOMEONE, THEY CANNOT WASH THEIR HANDS AND THE BIG BUSINESS, THEY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN RECEPTION PERSON THERE BUT IN THIS CASE, THEY DON'T. THE MASSAGE PERSON NEEDS TO THE THOUGHT OF THE SAME IF THERE IS A WAY, THERE IS NO WAY TO DO IT. THAT IS THE REASON TO WALK AWAY. THIS HALLWAY, BEFORE, IT'S A WHOLE UNIT. AFTER WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, I THOUGHT, BECAUSE ALL OF THE PARKING IS IN THE BACK, SO I THINK THAT, POSSIBLY, I CAN MAKE THE HALLWAY LEAD IT TO DIFFERENT FOR PEOPLE , AFTER THEY PARK, THEY CAN WALK THROUGH THERE TO THE FRONT. SEVERAL YEARS AFTER I BUILT THIS, ALMOST NO ONE USED THE HALL. INSTEAD, THOSE HOPELESS OR PEOPLE WHO WORK TO GET IN THERE WHEN SOMEONE FORGET TO LOCK THE DOOR. THEN IT CREATES A LOT LOT OF DAMAGE THERE. SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO BUILD A MASSAGE STORE, I THINK THERE IS A GOOD TIME FOR ME TO MAKE CHANGE. THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THIS. HOWEVER, THE TENANTS HAVE TO STEP IN AND TRY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. ACTUALLY, WITHOUT SOME CHANGE, IT IS NOT FINISHING WELL. THAT'S WHY I HOPE YOU CAN HELP. BEFORE THERE WAS A TENANT THERE, YOU SEE INSIDE THE ROOM FOR HAIRCUTS. SHE DOESN'T HAVE A GOOD BUSINESS. THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH HER FAMILY. I JUST WANT TO TO MOVE HER OUT AND WHEN YOU GET BETTER, I TRY MY BEST TO FIND YOU A NEW LOCATION. SHE WALKS AWAY, SO WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR ALMOST HALF A YEAR. MORE THAN HALF A YEAR. I HOPE THAT YOU CAN HELP. >> THEY KEEP YOUR KITTY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? CAN MR. FOSTER. TO MAKE IT EVENING. THANK YOU FOR ESTABLISHING YOUR BUSINESS IN PITTSBURGH. FOR THE QUESTION TO YOU, IT'S ONLY BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE THE EMPLOYEE BREAK ROOM IF SOMEBODY IS USING THE MICROWAVE EATING FOOD AND THE SMELL MAY JUST CIRCULATE IN THE OTHER ROOMS. I JUST WONDER WHAT YOUR SOLUTION IS FOR VENTING. >> IF THE USED MICROWAVE, IF THERE IS ANY SMELL OR WHATEVER, THEY SHOULD INSTALL SOME FAN. HOWEVER , IF MY MIKE WHITE DOESN'T USE FANS FOR US, IF THERE IS ANY PROBLEM, I WILL FIRST-HAND DO SOMETHING. ACTUALLY, ALL THE WALL BETWEEN THE UNITS, NOT ONLY TO THE CEILING, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE TOP OF THE BOTTOM OF THE ROOF . IT IS ALL SEPARATE. >> IT IS ALSO PARTITIONED IN YOUR, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A CRAWLSPACE OR WHATEVER, ATTIC. NO, THERE IS A SUSPENDED CEILING. >> BETWEEN THE WALL FOR EACH UNIT, EVEN THOUGH THE SMALLER ROOM THERE, EACH ROOM, THE WALL IS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE ROOF. BECAUSE THAT IS A FIRE REQUIREMENT AND WE ALWAYS KEEP OUR EYES ON THE PROPERTY AND KEEP IT IN GREAT CONDITION. >> OKAY. YES, I WAS JUST WONDERING. I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE THAT THERE IS THAT POSSIBILITY. >> THAT IS A GOOD POINT. >> YES, I'M PROUD THAT YOU HAVE AN EMPLOYEE BREAK ROOM THERE TOO. IT LOOKS LIKE A CENTERS SET UP FOR A LOT OF MASSAGE PARLORS I'VE BEEN IN. >> YES, WITHOUT THOSE THINGS, IT MEANS IT IS NOT FUNCTIONING WELL, THE WHOLE THING. SO WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> THANK YOU FOR COMING. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS FOR PLAN. SO YOU MENTIONED THAT FOR THE NEW TENANT, THE NEW PERSON THAT WOULD BE DOING THIS, ONE BURSTING WORKING THERE IS GOING TO BE DOING THE MASSAGE AND ALSO CHECKING ANYBODY AND WHO IS COMING IN AND DOING EVERYTHING, ONE PERSON. >> ACTUALLY, ACCORDING TO THE POTENTIAL TENANT WHO IS DOING THIS FOR A LONG WHILE, THEY SAY LIKE THE SIZE, THREE MASSAGE ROOMS, MAXIMUM HAS 2 TO 3 PERSONS TO DO THE MASSAGE. SO POSSIBLY, MAYBE TWO, THEY COULD HIRE RECEPTION IT'S THERE TO TAKE CARE OF THE RECEPTION ISSUE. >> OKAY. ACCORDING TO THE NEW PLAN, THE FRONT ENTRANCE THAT IS ON RAILROAD WOULD BE CLOSED OFF NOW BECAUSE IT WOULD BE PART OF ROOM 2 AND 3 . THE BACK AREA, AND LEFT I HAVE THIS WRONG, THE BACK AREA WHERE MOST PEOPLE WILL BE ENTERING, THAT COMES PAST THE RESTROOMS. THEY ARE BACK THERE. SO THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A SECOND EXIT ANY LONGER ON THE FRONT PART OF THE BUILDING? >> NO . >> THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE WINDOWS? >> THEY WILL BLOCK IT, BUT THEY WILL KEEP THE DOOR THERE AS AN EMERGENCY. >> OKAY. SO THE DOOR WILL REMAIN BUT NOT USING IT AS A DOOR TO ENTER. >> CORRECT. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> SURE. >> ONE KOMO QUESTION ABOUT THESE DOORS. THE DOOR WHERE ROOM 3 IS GOING TO BE, IT'S GOING TO BE UNLOCKED DURING BUSINESS HOURS FOR EMERGENCY OR IT IS GOING TO BE A DOOR WHERE YOU CAN ONLY EXIT? >> THE DOOR IN ROOM NUMBER THREE, THE DOOR TO OUR SIDE, WILL ALSO BE LOCKED. HOWEVER, I WILL REQUEST THEM TO KEEP IT -- WHEN THERE IS AN EMERGENCY, REQUESTED TO OPEN. >> THANK YOU. >> THE CONDITIONS LAID OUT BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. >> SAGAN. >> DO YOU AGREE TO THE CONDITIONS THEY HAVE LAID OUT AND I FORGET THE NAME OF THE DOCUMENT. THE REPORT. >> ACTUALLY, THE REST OF THE CONDITION, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. I JUST TRIED TO HELP THE TENANT TO MAKE SOMETHING BETTER. IF THEY DON'T DO THOSE CONVERSIONS, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO BE A MASSAGE STORE. >> OKAY. SO YOU DO AGREE TO THE CONDITIONS ? >> FINAL QUESTION. THE DOOR TO RAILROAD AVENUE REMAINING AND YOU SAID IT'S GOING TO BE AN EMERGENCY EXIT. WILL THERE BE SIGNAGE INSIDE? >> SIGNAGE FOR? >> THE EMERGENCY EXIT. OKAY. >> IT'S ALREADY THERE. ACTUALLY, WE THEY SHOULD WE APPLIED FOR THE PERMIT, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE REQUIRED AND RIGHT NOW, READY, HAVE ALL OF THOSE SIGNS. >> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. >> YES, AGAIN, REGARDING THE ENTRANCES ON THE RAILROAD AVENUE. SO THE ROOM NUMBER 3 IS GOING TO BE AN EMERGENCY EXIT. HOW ABOUT ROOM NUMBER 2. ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE 2 EMERGENCY EXIT OUT THAT FRONT WAY ON RAILROAD? >> ACTUALLY. WHEN THERE IS ANY EMERGENCY, PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE FROM ROOM 2 AND 3, WILL WALK FROM THE HALLWAY IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> THANKS. I THOUGHT THE COMMISSION HAD FOR YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANSWERING. DO WE HAVE ANY MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE WHO HAVE REQUESTED TO SPEAK? >> THERE ARE NONE. >> ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THIS TO THE LIBERATION FOR THE COMMISSION. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY THOUGHTS FROM OUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS? >> MR. FOSTER. >> I WOULD SAY, THE FLOOR PLAN IS PRETTY STANDARD AND I'M GLAD HE HAS THE EMERGENCY EXIT AND HE'S DOING RIGHT BY HIS TENANT. I DEFINITELY COMMEND THE APPLICANT IN MAKING THE STRUCTURAL MODIFICATIONS TO THAT LITERAL SLIVER OF AREA. I'VE BEEN THERE. I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT. HE'S DOING A LOT WITH THAT SPACE. I APPRECIATE THAT HE IS OPEN TO ANY MORE MODIFICATIONS IF NECESSARY OR REQUIRED BY THE CITY. I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS PROJECT. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROBINSON. >> THANK YOU. I KNOW I VOICED THIS PREVIOUSLY THIS EVENING AND YOU HAD OTHER APPLICATIONS COME BEFORE US BUT THE NUMBER OF MASSAGE PARLOR APPLICATIONS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED THAT WE HAVE SEEN OPERATING IN THE DEFINED LOGIC THAT THAT THE RESIDENCE ARE IN NEED OF THAT MANY MASSAGE PARLORS AND THEN ALSO, THE CONCERN OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING, WHICH WE KNOW THIS IS CONDUIT FOR NOT EVERYONE, WE KNOW THAT IT EXISTS AND IT IS I THINK. HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO BETTER MONITOR THIS IN THE FUTURE. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KOBATA. >> YES, I GO THERE A FEW TIMES AND WHEN I DID USE THE RESTROOM, IT WAS GO OUT TO THE BACK DOOR AND GO DOWN THE END OF THE HALLWAY AND WHEN I ENTERED THAT HALLWAY AND I LOOKED AROUND AND IT LOOK LIKE A POWER BREAK BREEZEWAY. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS A PRIVATELY OWNED AREA. I THINK THAT THE REMODELING OF THIS AND THE NEW USES OF THAT HALLWAY MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE HAVING A SEPARATE RESTROOM FOR THE EMPLOYEES BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT. THERE CAN BE A LOT OF CUSTOMER STANDING IN LINE FOR THAT ONE CUP RESTAURANT THAT IS A PUBLIC RESTROOM THAT ANYBODY COULD USE, WHEN THE NEED FOR YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO BE PERTINENT. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THAT. >> COMMISSIONER FOSTER. >> THIS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TRACKING ALL OF THESE MASSAGE PARLORS? I KNOW THEY WERE AWARE BECAUSE A FEW MUSICAL THEY WERE THE ONES TO -- THERE WAS MEDICATION TO THE MUNICIPAL CODE AND I REMEMBER THE POLICE CHIEF BEING ASKED, HOW MANY MASSAGE PARLORS FOR THEIR AND THAT WAS 2018 I THINK THERE WERE THREE THEN. >> THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS AWARE OF THIS APPLICATION. WE HAVE MET WITH THEM TWICE ABOUT THIS APPLICATION. THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR VIDEOS, SURVEILLANCE, AND PD HAS MADE IT CLEAR TO US THAT THEY WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CALIFORNIA MASSAGE THERAPY COUNSEL WHO DOES A GREAT DEAL OF BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION AND THEY WORK VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON COMPLIANCE WITH THESE TYPE OF BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY. >> THINK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT. >> THANK YOU. A COUPLE THOUGHTS FROM ME AS WELL. WHEREAS, I DO APPRECIATE THIS PROPOSE, I FEEL LIKE THERE COULD HAVE BEEN AN EXTRA STEP WHERE THE SPACE IS UTILIZED A LITTLE BIT MORE SO THAT THE SHARED BATHROOM IS CLOSER AND THAT USE IN A WAY WHERE THE FOOTPATH FOR CLIENTS USING IT, IS NOT REALLY CUTTING THROUGH THE BUSINESS. THAT WOULD HAVE ALSO WORKED WELL FOR THE MASSAGE ROOMS TO BE WHERE THE SHARED BATHROOM MAIN ENTRANCE FROM RAILROAD CAN BE UTILIZED. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS ADDITIONAL CHARGES BEING CLEARED WITH MORE MAJOR CHARTERING TO THE AREA, SO WHEREAS I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT OUR CUSTOMERS ENTERING THROUGH THE BACK, WITH THE ASSURANCE THAT THIS HAS BEEN ASSESSED THAT THERE IS NO CONCERNS WITH THE REST, I FEEL IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE USE FOR THE AREA AND WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED AND APPROVED. I DO APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO HELP TO REDESIGN THAT SPACE. IT'S WANTED THE CURSES WE HAVE SEEN IN BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, SO I NEED SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO DEAL WITH AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER. YES, IF I WERE DOING THAT, I WOULD HAVE DEFINITELY GONE THE EXTRA STEP TO REDESIGN A LITTLE BIT MORE SHARED BATHROOM IS CLOSER TO THE BUSINESS , IF POSSIBLE, AND THEN IT LEAVES MORE SPACE FOR THE SEPARATE MASSAGE BUSINESS TO OPERATE WITH LESS INTERRUPTION, BUT, AGAIN, IF THERE IS NO CONCERNS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT, I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN MAKE THIS A FUNCTIONAL BUSINESS THE WAY THAT IT IS. COMMISSIONER SMITH. >> THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR SETH. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE PROJECT SITE ILLUSTRATION . AS I UNDERSTAND IT, AND I KNOW THIS BUILDING AND I KNOW THE SET OF BUILDINGS THERE, THERE IS NO PARKING IN THE FRONT. RIGHT? NO PARKING. IS THAT CORRECT. IT'S JUST RAILROAD AVENUE. THIS PHOTO -- I WAS JUST ON IT. SORRY TO JUMP AROUND. THIS PHOTO DOES A PROPERTY OWNER HAS A SITTING AREA WITH TABLES HERE FOR PEOPLE, AT LEAST A 10 FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK, WHICH IS 25 FEET OFF OF RAILROAD AVENUE. SO THERE IS NO PARKING ON THE FRONT OF THE RAILROAD AVENUE SIDE. >> IT DOES WANTED THE UNITS CALLED THROUGH 38 AND 15 AND AFTER WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, THEN I THINK THERE WAS A PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE, SINCE THERE IS NO PARKING IN THE FRONT. SO I THINK IT WILL BE A PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE PARKING IN THE BACK SHOULD WORK THROUGH THE HALLWAY TO THE FRONT BUT AFTER WE HAVE THIS DECIDED, I THINK I DECIDED THAT IN 2013. FOR YEARS, THERE IS NO ONE TO USE THIS. ALSO, PEOPLE THROUGH THREE 811 338 13, THEY WILL RATHER WALK THROUGH THE SIDE. ON THE OTHER SIDE, TWO 3819 AND 21, THEY HAVE ASSIGNED PARKING. THEY WILL WALK THE SIDEWALK TO THE FRONT . WE PAY A LITTLE BIT TO THE TENANT AND 3817 IN THE HALLWAY TO FM EVERYDAY TO OPEN AND CLOSE. SOMETIMES NO ONE TO OPEN AND NO ONE TO CLOSE. CAUSES I WANT A PROBLEM BUT NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE USE THE FRONT DOOR. THAT'S WHY I SUGGEST TO CHANGE IT INTO A MASSAGE PIECE. IT'S TIME FOR US TO MAKE CHANGE. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER FOSTER, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? >> YES, I DO. UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS A REAR ENTRANCE, YOU CAN ENTER UP FRONT AND WILL THE REAR ENTRANCE STILL BE OPEN ALSO? WILL THAT BE PRESERVED? >> YOU KNOW, THE RESTAURANT NEXT DOOR? >> YES. >> YOU CAN ENTER UP FRONT AND THE BACK. WITH THE BACK STILL BE OPEN TO THEM? >> YES. >> IS ANOTHER ENTRANCE?