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BUDGET WORKSHOP

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BUDGET WORKSHOP

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>> Mayor >> Mayor Bujalski: >> Mayor Bujalski: WELCOME, >> Mayor Bujalski: WELCOME, EVERYBODY, >> Mayor Bujalski: WELCOME, EVERYBODY, TO >> Mayor Bujalski: WELCOME, EVERYBODY, TO OUR >> Mayor Bujalski: WELCOME, EVERYBODY, TO OUR JULY >> Mayor Bujalski: WELCOME, EVERYBODY, TO OUR JULY 18th EVERYBODY, TO OUR JULY 18th BUDGET WORKSHOP, OUR SECOND IN BUDGET WORKSHOP, OUR SECOND IN OUR SERIES. OUR SERIES. I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY TO TURN THEIR MICROPHONES ON AND TO TURN THEIR MICROPHONES ON AND OFF AS THEY ARE USING THEM OFF AS THEY ARE USING THEM BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO HEAR EVERYBODY WHEN THEY ARE OFF HEAR EVERYBODY WHEN THEY ARE OFF AND IT'S CERTAINLY DIFFICULT FOR AND IT'S CERTAINLY DIFFICULT FOR THE TV FOLKS. THE TV FOLKS. SO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. SO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. AND WE'RE GOING TO ADD CITIZEN AND WE'RE GOING TO ADD CITIZEN INPUT TO THE BEGINNING OF OUR INPUT TO THE BEGINNING OF OUR AGENDA FOR ANY ITEM THAT IS NOT AGENDA FOR ANY ITEM THAT IS NOT ALREADY ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE ALREADY ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A FEW PEOPLE TO SPEAK. DO HAVE A FEW PEOPLE TO SPEAK. SO HAVING SAID THAT, CITIZEN SO HAVING SAID THAT, CITIZEN INPUT, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND INPUT, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. FOR THE RECORD. AND THIS IS AGAIN ANY ITEM AND THIS IS AGAIN ANY ITEM THAT'S NOT DIRECTLY BEING THAT'S NOT DIRECTLY BEING DISCUSSED ON THE AGENDA. DISCUSSED ON THE AGENDA. WELCOME. WELCOME. >> WELCOME, THANK YOU. >> WELCOME, THANK YOU. >> WELCOME, THANK YOU. MAYOR >> WELCOME, THANK YOU. MAYOR BUJALSKI, >> WELCOME, THANK YOU. MAYOR BUJALSKI, COMMISSIONERS MAYOR BUJALSKI, COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF, THANK YOU FOR THIS AND STAFF, THANK YOU FOR THIS BRIEF COMMENT. BRIEF COMMENT. I'M GOING TO KEEP IT BRIEF I'M GOING TO KEEP IT BRIEF TODAY. TODAY. I AM HERE AGAIN -- MY NAME IS I AM HERE AGAIN -- MY NAME IS CHARLES KLEIN. CHARLES KLEIN. I LIVE IN DUNEDIN UP ON I LIVE IN DUNEDIN UP ON JEFFERSON AVENUE. JEFFERSON AVENUE. I AM HERE WITH OTHER FRIENDS OF I AM HERE WITH OTHER FRIENDS OF MINE FROM THE BOARD AND THE MINE FROM THE BOARD AND THE RESEARCH COMMITTEE OF THE RESEARCH COMMITTEE OF THE DUNEDIN PUBLIC THEATER PROJECT. DUNEDIN PUBLIC THEATER PROJECT. AND WE WANT TO COME BACK AND AND WE WANT TO COME BACK AND SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR A THEATER SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR A THEATER IN DOWNTOWN. IN DOWNTOWN. IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DOWNTOWN IS MISSING. DOWNTOWN IS MISSING. I KNOW WE ADDRESSED IN JUNE THE I KNOW WE ADDRESSED IN JUNE THE POSSIBILITY OF PARTNERING WITH POSSIBILITY OF PARTNERING WITH THE PARKING LOT. THE PARKING LOT. I JUST WANT YOU TO KEEP AN OPEN I JUST WANT YOU TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND INTO THAT POSSIBILITY. MIND INTO THAT POSSIBILITY. I KNOW THE STAFF HAS COME UP I KNOW THE STAFF HAS COME UP WITH COMMENTS THAT MAY NOT FIT WITH COMMENTS THAT MAY NOT FIT THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS, IT MAY THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS, IT MAY NOT FIT ON THE LOT. NOT FIT ON THE LOT. BUT WE HAVE ARCHITECT DRAWINGS BUT WE HAVE ARCHITECT DRAWINGS THAT SHOW IT CAN FIT ON THE LOT THAT SHOW IT CAN FIT ON THE LOT AND IT WILL STAY UNDER THE AND IT WILL STAY UNDER THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS AND IT WILL HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS AND IT WILL ADD A NEW DRAW IN TO DOWNTOWN. ADD A NEW DRAW IN TO DOWNTOWN. I KNOW BOB IRONSMITH HAS A COPY I KNOW BOB IRONSMITH HAS A COPY OF THOSE DRAWINGS AND WE KNOW OF THOSE DRAWINGS AND WE KNOW HAVE THEM ELECTRONIC THAT WE CAN HAVE THEM ELECTRONIC THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM TO ALL THE GIVE THEM TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS IF YOU WANT THEM COMMISSIONERS IF YOU WANT THEM AND WHATEVER STAFF THINKS THEY AND WHATEVER STAFF THINKS THEY NEED THEM. NEED THEM. WE'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT. WE'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT. WE WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WE WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE STILL WANT TO WORK WITH THE STILL WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY. CITY. WE STILL WANT TO BRING THE WE STILL WANT TO BRING THE THEATER TO DOWNTOWN. THEATER TO DOWNTOWN. WE HAVE OUR 501(C)(3) OFFICIALLY WE HAVE OUR 501(C)(3) OFFICIALLY NOW. NOW. WE GOT THE LETTER A WEEK AGO. WE GOT THE LETTER A WEEK AGO. WE ARE FUND-RAISING AND WE ARE FUND-RAISING AND PLANNING. PLANNING. AND WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THE AND WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THE DIALOGUE GOING TO TRY TO BRING DIALOGUE GOING TO TRY TO BRING THIS PROJECT INTO DOWNTOWN AND THIS PROJECT INTO DOWNTOWN AND LOOK AT ANY POSSIBILITIES. LOOK AT ANY POSSIBILITIES. BUT AT LEAST KEEP AN OPEN MIND BUT AT LEAST KEEP AN OPEN MIND ON THE MIDTOWN PARKING GARAGE ON THE MIDTOWN PARKING GARAGE BECAUSE THIS WOULD PUT OUR BECAUSE THIS WOULD PUT OUR THEATER RIGHT ON THE TRAIL WHICH THEATER RIGHT ON THE TRAIL WHICH WE THINK IS AN EASY WAY FOR WE THINK IS AN EASY WAY FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO IT AND A DRAW. PEOPLE TO GET TO IT AND A DRAW. AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THE AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION. CONVERSATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Mayor Bujalski: THANK YOU >> Mayor Bujalski: THANK YOU >> Mayor Bujalski: THANK YOU VERY >> Mayor Bujalski: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] OKAY. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU, GUYS. WELL, THANK YOU, GUYS. I WANTED TO GET YOU IN AND OUT I WANTED TO GET YOU IN AND OUT OF HERE. OF HERE. AND AGAIN ON THE 15th BUDGET AND AGAIN ON THE 15th BUDGET WORKSHOP, OUR FINAL ONE, WE WILL WORKSHOP, OUR FINAL ONE, WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE CAPITAL BE TALKING ABOUT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS WHICH INCLUDE THE PROJECTS WHICH INCLUDE THE GARAGE. GARAGE. BUT I'M SURE BOB WILL LOOK AT BUT I'M SURE BOB WILL LOOK AT WHATEVER YOU HAVE GIVEN HIM AND WHATEVER YOU HAVE GIVEN HIM AND WORK WITH JENNIFER ON THAT. WORK WITH JENNIFER ON THAT. SO THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. I AM GOING TO NOW TURN IT OVER I AM GOING TO NOW TURN IT OVER TO JENNIFER FOR OPENING REMARKS. TO JENNIFER FOR OPENING REMARKS. >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT. ALL >> RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, >> RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, GOOD >> RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, GOOD MORNING, >> RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, ALL RIGHT, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND GET TO THE CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND GET TO THE AGENDA. AGENDA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERE IT IS. THERE IT IS. SO IT'S A NICE RAINY DAY SO WE SO IT'S A NICE RAINY DAY SO WE COULDN'T BE ANY PLACE ELSE, COULDN'T BE ANY PLACE ELSE, RIGHT, BUT HERE, SO IT WILL BE RIGHT, BUT HERE, SO IT WILL BE FUN. FUN. I PROMISE. I PROMISE. >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> SO >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> SO I >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> SO I JUST >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> SO I JUST WANT >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> SO I JUST WANT TO >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> SO I JUST WANT TO TALK >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A >> SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A >> SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE >> SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT >> SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT >> SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE >> SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE -- LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE -- >> SAY THAT WITH A LITTLE >> SAY THAT WITH A LITTLE >> SAY THAT WITH A LITTLE MORE >> SAY THAT WITH A LITTLE MORE -- MORE -- >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> IT >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> IT WILL >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> IT WILL BE >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> IT WILL BE A >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> IT WILL BE A LOT >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. >> >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. >> WE'LL >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. >> WE'LL BE >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. >> WE'LL BE READY >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. >> WE'LL BE READY TO >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. >> WE'LL BE READY TO ROLL. >> WE'LL BE READY TO ROLL. >> WE'LL BE READY TO ROLL. >> >> WE'LL BE READY TO ROLL. >> ALL >> WE'LL BE READY TO ROLL. >> ALL RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO. LET'S GO. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE STARTED OUR BUDGETING PROCESS. STARTED OUR BUDGETING PROCESS. WE STARTED WITH A STRATEGIC WE STARTED WITH A STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT. PLANNING RETREAT. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PRIORITIES IN THE CITY MOVING PRIORITIES IN THE CITY MOVING FORWARD FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR AND FORWARD FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR AND FOR THE FUTURE REALLY. FOR THE FUTURE REALLY. WE HAD OUR FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP WE HAD OUR FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP ON JUNE 1st. ON JUNE 1st. AND DURING THE COURSE OF THAT AND DURING THE COURSE OF THAT BUDGET WORKSHOP, WE TALKED A BUDGET WORKSHOP, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GENERAL LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND. FUND. AND WE GAVE YOU A GENERAL FUND AND WE GAVE YOU A GENERAL FUND UPDATE. UPDATE. WE SPOKE ABOUT THE TWO SCENARIOS WE SPOKE ABOUT THE TWO SCENARIOS FOR THE FOUR LARGER CAPITAL FOR THE FOUR LARGER CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAD AND PROJECTS THAT WE HAD AND DISCUSSED THOSE QUITE A BIT. DISCUSSED THOSE QUITE A BIT. WE TALKED ABOUT ONGOING AND NEW WE TALKED ABOUT ONGOING AND NEW INITIATIVES. INITIATIVES. WE GAVE YOU A STATUS OF OUR WE GAVE YOU A STATUS OF OUR INITIATIVES AND THEN TALKED A INITIATIVES AND THEN TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE NEW LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE NEW INITIATIVES THAT SOME MEMBERS OF INITIATIVES THAT SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS WELL AS STAFF. AS WELL AS STAFF. AND THEN THE CITY COMMISSION HAD AND THEN THE CITY COMMISSION HAD COMMENTS ON THOSE INITIATIVES, COMMENTS ON THOSE INITIATIVES, COMMENTS ON THE BUDGET IN COMMENTS ON THE BUDGET IN GENERAL. GENERAL. SO WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF SO WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF FOLLOW-UP ITEMS THAT WE ARE FOLLOW-UP ITEMS THAT WE ARE GOING TO SPEND QUITE A BIT OF GOING TO SPEND QUITE A BIT OF TIME ON TODAY. TIME ON TODAY. AS WE USUALLY DO DURING OUR AS WE USUALLY DO DURING OUR SECOND BUDGET WORKSHOP. SECOND BUDGET WORKSHOP. SO JUST TO KIND OF WALK US SO JUST TO KIND OF WALK US THROUGH THE AGENDA THEN, WE'RE THROUGH THE AGENDA THEN, WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER 2, THE FOLLOW-UP ON ITEM NUMBER 2, THE FOLLOW-UP FOR 2024 BUDGET WORKSHOP NUMBER FOR 2024 BUDGET WORKSHOP NUMBER 1. 1. AND THEN POSITION REQUESTS FOR AND THEN POSITION REQUESTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND DR. SMALLING WILL BE PRESENTING DR. SMALLING WILL BE PRESENTING THOSE POSITION REQUESTS. THOSE POSITION REQUESTS. AND THOSE REQUESTS ARE BOTH AND THOSE REQUESTS ARE BOTH GENERATED BY THE DEPARTMENTS AND GENERATED BY THE DEPARTMENTS AND ALSO BY OUR ORGANIZATIONAL STUDY ALSO BY OUR ORGANIZATIONAL STUDY THAT MATRIX DID. THAT MATRIX DID. ONE THING I WANT TO SAY, KIND OF ONE THING I WANT TO SAY, KIND OF A DISCLAIMER, IF YOU WILL, YOU A DISCLAIMER, IF YOU WILL, YOU DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHICH POSITIONS WE SHOULD FILL. WHICH POSITIONS WE SHOULD FILL. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REQUESTS THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REQUESTS AS I'M WAITING TO MAKE THAT AS I'M WAITING TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION UNTIL WE GET THE RECOMMENDATION UNTIL WE GET THE RESULTS OF THE CLASS AND COMP RESULTS OF THE CLASS AND COMP STUDY. STUDY. I HAVE ALWAYS COMMITTED TO THE I HAVE ALWAYS COMMITTED TO THE STAFF, THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, STAFF, THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, THAT I WILL CONVEY THEIR REQUEST THAT I WILL CONVEY THEIR REQUEST TO ALL OF YOU AS FAR AS TO ALL OF YOU AS FAR AS PERSONNEL GOES. PERSONNEL GOES. AND THEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOLLOWING THOSE REQUESTS. FOLLOWING THOSE REQUESTS. AND THAT WILL HAPPEN ON THE AND THAT WILL HAPPEN ON THE AUGUST 15th BUDGET WORKSHOP AUGUST 15th BUDGET WORKSHOP NUMBER 2. NUMBER 2. THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK A THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT REVENUE LITTLE BIT ABOUT REVENUE EXPENDITURES AND PROJECTS, ALL EXPENDITURES AND PROJECTS, ALL FUNDS. FUNDS. WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT ALL FUNDS. TIME LOOKING AT ALL FUNDS. I KNOW IT'S A BIT OF A SLOG TO I KNOW IT'S A BIT OF A SLOG TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET FUND BY FUND. FUND BY FUND. THIS ISN'T A LINE ITEM REVIEW. THIS ISN'T A LINE ITEM REVIEW. IT IS A FUND-BY-FUND REVIEW. IT IS A FUND-BY-FUND REVIEW. I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE STATUS WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE STATUS OF ALL OF OUR FUNDS IN PUBLIC OF ALL OF OUR FUNDS IN PUBLIC AND HEAR FROM ALL OF YOU AS FAR AND HEAR FROM ALL OF YOU AS FAR AS YOUR CONCERNS OR OTHER THINGS AS YOUR CONCERNS OR OTHER THINGS YOU'D LIKE US TO LOOK AT AS FAR YOU'D LIKE US TO LOOK AT AS FAR AS THOSE FUNDS GO. AS THOSE FUNDS GO. ONE THING WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ONE THING WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE LOOKING AT TODAY, THOUGH, IS LOOKING AT TODAY, THOUGH, IS THOSE FOUR LARGER CAPITAL THOSE FOUR LARGER CAPITAL PROJECTS. PROJECTS. THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE DON'T THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE ESTIMATES IN FOR HAVE ALL OF THE ESTIMATES IN FOR THE SKINNER PROJECT. THE SKINNER PROJECT. WE'RE EXPECTING THE DUKE WE'RE EXPECTING THE DUKE UNDERGROUNDING BONDED ESTIMATE UNDERGROUNDING BONDED ESTIMATE ON THE 28th WHICH IS JUST ON THE 28th WHICH IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER. AROUND THE CORNER. IT WOULD BE A FUTILE EXERCISE IT WOULD BE A FUTILE EXERCISE BECAUSE WE ALREADY DID THAT. BECAUSE WE ALREADY DID THAT. WE ARE WAITING FOR THAT. WE ARE WAITING FOR THAT. ONCE WE GET THAT, WE CAN LOOK AT ONCE WE GET THAT, WE CAN LOOK AT ALL FOUR PROJECTS. ALL FOUR PROJECTS. WE HAVE REFRESHED THE ESTIMATES WE HAVE REFRESHED THE ESTIMATES ON THE OTHERS TO THE BEST OF OUR ON THE OTHERS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. ABILITY. SOME OF THEM ARE STILL IN DESIGN SOME OF THEM ARE STILL IN DESIGN SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT BUT WE HAVE REFRESHED THE BUT WE HAVE REFRESHED THE ESTIMATES. ESTIMATES. WE ALONE LOOKING AT THE FOUR WE ALONE LOOKING AT THE FOUR CAPITAL PROJECTS ON THE 15th CAPITAL PROJECTS ON THE 15th AS WELL AND WILL HAVE THE AS WELL AND WILL HAVE THE RESULTS OF THE CLASS AND COMP RESULTS OF THE CLASS AND COMP STUDY AND WILL BE LOOKING AT THE STUDY AND WILL BE LOOKING AT THE RESULTS OF THE CLASS AND COMP RESULTS OF THE CLASS AND COMP STUDY. STUDY. SO THAT AUGUST 15th THIRD SO THAT AUGUST 15th THIRD BUDGET WORKSHOP IS GOING TO TAKE BUDGET WORKSHOP IS GOING TO TAKE US THE DAY. US THE DAY. WE EXPECT TO GO TO 4:00. WE EXPECT TO GO TO 4:00. WE ARE THE WORK SESSION IN THE WE ARE THE WORK SESSION IN THE MORNING. MORNING. WE ROLLED EVERYTHING OFF THAT WE ROLLED EVERYTHING OFF THAT WORK SESSION THAT WE COULD TO WORK SESSION THAT WE COULD TO KEEP THAT MEETING SHORT SO WE KEEP THAT MEETING SHORT SO WE COULD ROLL INTO THE BUDGET COULD ROLL INTO THE BUDGET WORKSHOP AS WELL. WORKSHOP AS WELL. WITH THAT SAID, UNLESS YOU HAVE WITH THAT SAID, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, COMMISSION -- ANY COMMENTS, COMMISSION -- >> Mayor Bujalski: WILL WE BE IN >> Mayor Bujalski: WILL WE BE IN >> Mayor Bujalski: WILL WE BE IN THIS >> Mayor Bujalski: WILL WE BE IN THIS SETUP >> Mayor Bujalski: WILL WE BE IN THIS SETUP ON >> Mayor Bujalski: WILL WE BE IN THIS SETUP ON AUGUST >> Mayor Bujalski: WILL WE BE IN THIS SETUP ON AUGUST 15th, >> Mayor Bujalski: WILL WE BE IN THIS SETUP ON AUGUST 15th, I THIS SETUP ON AUGUST 15th, I IMAGINE? IMAGINE? >> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD >> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD >> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. QUESTION. WE'RE STARTING AS A WORK WE'RE STARTING AS A WORK SESSION, SO WE MIGHT BE ON THE SESSION, SO WE MIGHT BE ON THE DAIS BECAUSE WE'LL BE IN A WORK DAIS BECAUSE WE'LL BE IN A WORK SESSION. SESSION. THAT'S FINE, WE CAN SET IT UP THAT'S FINE, WE CAN SET IT UP THIS WAY, TOO. THIS WAY, TOO. >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF WE'RE >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF WE'RE GOING >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF WE'RE GOING TO >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF WE'RE GOING TO BE >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE ALL >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE ALL DAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE ALL DAY, IT'S PROBABLY BEST. IT'S PROBABLY BEST. >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> Mayor >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> Mayor Bujalski: >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> Mayor Bujalski: I >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN UNLESS >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN UNLESS >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN UNLESS SOMEBODY >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS AN >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS AN OBJECTION >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS AN OBJECTION TO >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS AN OBJECTION TO IT. SOMEBODY HAS AN OBJECTION TO IT. OKAY. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE OPENING? ANY QUESTIONS ON THE OPENING? >> OKAY. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. I'LL >> OKAY. I'LL HAND >> OKAY. I'LL HAND IT >> OKAY. I'LL HAND IT OVER >> OKAY. I'LL HAND IT OVER TO >> OKAY. I'LL HAND IT OVER TO LES >> OKAY. I'LL HAND IT OVER TO LES THEN. I'LL HAND IT OVER TO LES THEN. THANK YOU, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, THANK YOU, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONERS. >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. LES TYLER, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR. LES TYLER, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR. I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE FOLLOW-UP MEMO. FOLLOW-UP MEMO. I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE FOLLOW-UP MEMO -- FOLLOW-UP MEMO -- >> Mayor Bujalski: IS THERE A >> Mayor Bujalski: IS THERE A >> Mayor Bujalski: IS THERE A MICROPHONE >> Mayor Bujalski: IS THERE A MICROPHONE ON? MICROPHONE ON? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT IS. IS. >> IT'S ON. >> IT'S ON. >> IT'S ON. >> >> IT'S ON. >> MAYOR, >> IT'S ON. >> MAYOR, COULD >> IT'S ON. >> MAYOR, COULD I >> IT'S ON. >> MAYOR, COULD I JUST >> IT'S ON. >> MAYOR, COULD I JUST ASK >> MAYOR, COULD I JUST ASK >> MAYOR, COULD I JUST ASK SOMETHING? SOMETHING? >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH. >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH. >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH. >> >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH. >> ARE >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH. >> ARE WE >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH. >> ARE WE THINKING >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH. >> ARE WE THINKING ABOUT >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH. >> ARE WE THINKING ABOUT DOING >> ARE WE THINKING ABOUT DOING >> ARE WE THINKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING >> ARE WE THINKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT >> ARE WE THINKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH MICROPHONES? MICROPHONES? I ONLY SAY THIS BECAUSE MY MOM I ONLY SAY THIS BECAUSE MY MOM IS IN THE HOSPITAL. IS IN THE HOSPITAL. BUT I WATCHED ONE OF THE BUT I WATCHED ONE OF THE MEETINGS WHEN I MISSED LAST MEETINGS WHEN I MISSED LAST MEETING. MEETING. BOY, IF THE MIC IS OUT, YOU BOY, IF THE MIC IS OUT, YOU REALLY DON'T HEAR. REALLY DON'T HEAR. UNLIKE THE OLD SYSTEM, YOU UNLIKE THE OLD SYSTEM, YOU ACTUALLY COULD STILL HEAR IT ACTUALLY COULD STILL HEAR IT PRETTY MUCH. PRETTY MUCH. YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN'T HEAR. YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN'T HEAR. SO THE ON/OFF, REMINDING EACH SO THE ON/OFF, REMINDING EACH OTHER, I JUST WONDER IF THERE OTHER, I JUST WONDER IF THERE MIGHT NOT BE A MORE VOICE MIGHT NOT BE A MORE VOICE ACTED -- SUE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ACTED -- SUE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DRAMA IS WITH THAT. THE DRAMA IS WITH THAT. BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE A DRAMA. TO CONTINUE TO BE A DRAMA. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT TODAY. IT TODAY. LIKE YOU ABSOLUTELY WHEN YOU'RE LIKE YOU ABSOLUTELY WHEN YOU'RE LISTENING, YOU'RE LIKE YOU DON'T LISTENING, YOU'RE LIKE YOU DON'T HEAR. HEAR. >> WE ARE VERY AWARE. >> WE ARE VERY AWARE. >> WE ARE VERY AWARE. >> >> WE ARE VERY AWARE. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> >> YEAH. >> AND >> YEAH. >> AND PART >> YEAH. >> AND PART OF >> YEAH. >> AND PART OF IT >> YEAH. >> AND PART OF IT IS >> YEAH. >> AND PART OF IT IS -- >> YEAH. >> AND PART OF IT IS -- YOU >> YEAH. >> AND PART OF IT IS -- YOU CAN >> AND PART OF IT IS -- YOU CAN >> AND PART OF IT IS -- YOU CAN HEAR >> AND PART OF IT IS -- YOU CAN HEAR ME >> AND PART OF IT IS -- YOU CAN HEAR ME VERY >> AND PART OF IT IS -- YOU CAN HEAR ME VERY CLEARLY, >> AND PART OF IT IS -- YOU CAN HEAR ME VERY CLEARLY, RIGHT? HEAR ME VERY CLEARLY, RIGHT? BECAUSE I'VE GOT MY MICROPHONE BECAUSE I'VE GOT MY MICROPHONE ON. ON. >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT. >> >> RIGHT. >> I'M >> RIGHT. >> I'M TALKING >> RIGHT. >> I'M TALKING INTO >> RIGHT. >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. A >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. A LOT >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. A LOT OF >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. A LOT OF IT >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. A LOT OF IT -- >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. A LOT OF IT -- THESE >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. A LOT OF IT -- THESE ARE >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. A LOT OF IT -- THESE ARE GREAT A LOT OF IT -- THESE ARE GREAT MICROPHONES. MICROPHONES. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> >> YEAH. >> AND >> YEAH. >> AND RIGHT >> YEAH. >> AND RIGHT NOW >> YEAH. >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE >> YEAH. >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE ARE >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE ARE >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE ARE RENTED >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE ARE RENTED AND >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE ARE RENTED AND WE >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE ARE RENTED AND WE ARE >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE ARE RENTED AND WE ARE LOOKING >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE ARE RENTED AND WE ARE LOOKING AT RENTED AND WE ARE LOOKING AT PURCHASING. PURCHASING. >> OH, GREAT. >> OH, GREAT. >> OH, GREAT. >> >> OH, GREAT. >> A >> OH, GREAT. >> A LONG-TERM >> OH, GREAT. >> A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. >> A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. >> A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. WE >> A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. WE ARE >> A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. WE ARE EITHER >> A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. WE ARE EITHER GOING >> A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. WE ARE EITHER GOING TO >> A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. WE ARE EITHER GOING TO BE WE ARE EITHER GOING TO BE PURCHASING SOMETHING LIKE THIS PURCHASING SOMETHING LIKE THIS OR WIRELESS MICS, SO WE ARE OR WIRELESS MICS, SO WE ARE TESTING THOSE OUT WITH OUR TESTING THOSE OUT WITH OUR VIRTUAL PRODUCTIONS. VIRTUAL PRODUCTIONS. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE BOTH OF THOSE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE BOTH OF THOSE MICROPHONES TODAY IN THE BACK MICROPHONES TODAY IN THE BACK ROOM, SO WE'LL BE PLAYING AROUND ROOM, SO WE'LL BE PLAYING AROUND WITH THEM BEFORE THE NEXT WITH THEM BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. MEETING. BUT PART OF IT IS JUST REALLY BUT PART OF IT IS JUST REALLY REMINDING PEOPLE THEY HAVE TO REMINDING PEOPLE THEY HAVE TO SPEAK INTO THESE. SPEAK INTO THESE. AND THEY HAVE TO BRING THEM AND THEY HAVE TO BRING THEM TOWARD THEM. TOWARD THEM. SO IT ISN'T THE KIND OF SO IT ISN'T THE KIND OF MICROPHONE THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE MICROPHONE THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE LOTS OF NOISE PICKED UP BECAUSE LOTS OF NOISE PICKED UP BECAUSE IF THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU IS IF THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU IS SPEAKING OR MAKING A COMMENT OR SPEAKING OR MAKING A COMMENT OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU DON'T WANT WHATEVER IT IS, YOU DON'T WANT THAT NOISE TO BE PICKED UP. THAT NOISE TO BE PICKED UP. SO THESE ARE THE MICROPHONES SO THESE ARE THE MICROPHONES THAT WE HAVE AT THIS POINT. THAT WE HAVE AT THIS POINT. AND WE ARE EXPLORING OTHER AND WE ARE EXPLORING OTHER OPTIONS. OPTIONS. BUT WE ARE AWARE, NOT ONLY OF BUT WE ARE AWARE, NOT ONLY OF THE SOUND, BUT WHAT WE KNOW IS THE SOUND, BUT WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT THE NEW SYSTEM HAS VOLUME THAT THE NEW SYSTEM HAS VOLUME CONTROLS, NOT ONLY FOR THE DAIS CONTROLS, NOT ONLY FOR THE DAIS AND THE LIVE STREAM, BUT ALSO AND THE LIVE STREAM, BUT ALSO FOR THE MICROPHONES. FOR THE MICROPHONES. AND SO WE ARE WORKING WITH THE AND SO WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR -- OR THE CONTRACTOR -- OR THE SUBCONTRACTOR TO HELP PROGRAM SUBCONTRACTOR TO HELP PROGRAM ALL OF THOSE AND TRAIN US AS ALL OF THOSE AND TRAIN US AS WELL. WELL. >> THAT'S ALL GOOD. >> THAT'S ALL GOOD. >> THAT'S ALL GOOD. I >> THAT'S ALL GOOD. I MEAN >> THAT'S ALL GOOD. I MEAN AS >> THAT'S ALL GOOD. I MEAN AS A >> THAT'S ALL GOOD. I MEAN AS A FORMER >> THAT'S ALL GOOD. I MEAN AS A FORMER PERSON >> THAT'S ALL GOOD. I MEAN AS A FORMER PERSON THAT I MEAN AS A FORMER PERSON THAT SANG IN A BAND, IT'S ALL ABOUT SANG IN A BAND, IT'S ALL ABOUT SOUND. SOUND. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE WORKING ON A I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE WORKING ON A SOLUTION. SOLUTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. LES, >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. LES, TALK >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. LES, TALK RIGHT >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. LES, TALK RIGHT INTO >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. LES, TALK RIGHT INTO THE LES, TALK RIGHT INTO THE MICROPHONE. MICROPHONE. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] >> I'M ON IT. >> I'M ON IT. >> I'M ON IT. WOULD >> I'M ON IT. WOULD YOU >> I'M ON IT. WOULD YOU LIKE >> I'M ON IT. WOULD YOU LIKE ME >> I'M ON IT. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO >> I'M ON IT. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO WALK WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO WALK THROUGH THE FOLLOW-UP MEMO? THROUGH THE FOLLOW-UP MEMO? >> Mayor Bujalski: YES. >> Mayor Bujalski: YES. >> Mayor Bujalski: YES. >> >> Mayor Bujalski: YES. >> OKAY, >> Mayor Bujalski: YES. >> OKAY, GREAT. >> OKAY, GREAT. >> OKAY, GREAT. I >> OKAY, GREAT. I WILL >> OKAY, GREAT. I WILL START >> OKAY, GREAT. I WILL START WITH >> OKAY, GREAT. I WILL START WITH JUST >> OKAY, GREAT. I WILL START WITH JUST ITEM >> OKAY, GREAT. I WILL START WITH JUST ITEM 1, I WILL START WITH JUST ITEM 1, WE HAVE 29 ITEMS IN TOTAL. WE HAVE 29 ITEMS IN TOTAL. THE FIRST ITEM IS CITY THE FIRST ITEM IS CITY COMMISSION ASKED THE STAFF TO COMMISSION ASKED THE STAFF TO PREPARE A ROLLED-BACK RATE PREPARE A ROLLED-BACK RATE SCENARIO FOR THE GENERAL FUND. SCENARIO FOR THE GENERAL FUND. WE HAVE PREPARED THAT SCENARIO WE HAVE PREPARED THAT SCENARIO AND IT'S IN ATTACHMENT 1 AND 2 AND IT'S IN ATTACHMENT 1 AND 2 IN THE FOLLOW-UP MEMO. IN THE FOLLOW-UP MEMO. I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY GO OVER I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY GO OVER STARTING WITH ATTACHMENT 1. STARTING WITH ATTACHMENT 1. ATTACHMENT 1 IS A ROLL BACK -- ATTACHMENT 1 IS A ROLL BACK -- THE FISCAL YEAR '24 BUDGET ROLL THE FISCAL YEAR '24 BUDGET ROLL BACK IS 3.7503. BACK IS 3.7503. IN THIS SCENARIO, ATTACHMENT 1, IN THIS SCENARIO, ATTACHMENT 1, WE HAVE APPLIED THAT MILLAGE IN WE HAVE APPLIED THAT MILLAGE IN THE GENERAL FUND. THE GENERAL FUND. WE HAVE KEPT THAT SAME MILLAGE WE HAVE KEPT THAT SAME MILLAGE RATE OUT TO '29 OF 3.7503. RATE OUT TO '29 OF 3.7503. THE IMPACT OF THIS IS A THE IMPACT OF THIS IS A REDUCTION IN PROPERTY TAXES REDUCTION IN PROPERTY TAXES REVENUE OF 1.432 MILLION IN REVENUE OF 1.432 MILLION IN 2024, JUST 1.4 MILLION. 2024, JUST 1.4 MILLION. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE RESERVE AS YOU CAN SEE, THE RESERVE LEVEL IN 2024 AT THE VERY BOTTOM LEVEL IN 2024 AT THE VERY BOTTOM IS 12%. IS 12%. BELOW OUR 15% GOAL. BELOW OUR 15% GOAL. IN THIS SCENARIO, WE WOULD NEED IN THIS SCENARIO, WE WOULD NEED TO REDUCE EXPENSES BY $1,180,000 TO REDUCE EXPENSES BY $1,180,000 TO GET BACK TO OUR 15% GOAL. TO GET BACK TO OUR 15% GOAL. WE'D HAVE TO FIND WHATEVER -- WE WE'D HAVE TO FIND WHATEVER -- WE HAVE NOT MADE RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE NOT MADE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE FOR THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE NEEDED TO GET BACK TO OUR 15% NEEDED TO GET BACK TO OUR 15% TARGET. TARGET. ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT THE ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT THE LONG-TERM IMPACT OF THIS LONG-TERM IMPACT OF THIS SCENARIO IS THAT THE BUDGET SCENARIO IS THAT THE BUDGET SHORTFALL IN THE OUTER YEARS IS SHORTFALL IN THE OUTER YEARS IS 3.315 MILLION FROM '25 TO '29. 3.315 MILLION FROM '25 TO '29. AND AGAIN, THE ONLY CHANGE IN AND AGAIN, THE ONLY CHANGE IN THIS SCENARIO IS WE HAVE REDUCED THIS SCENARIO IS WE HAVE REDUCED THE MILLAGE FROM OUR CURRENT THE MILLAGE FROM OUR CURRENT 4.1345 MILLS TO THE 3.7503. 4.1345 MILLS TO THE 3.7503. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ATTACHMENT? ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ATTACHMENT? >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY, >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY, >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY, QUESTIONS >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY, QUESTIONS ON >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY, QUESTIONS ON THIS >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY, QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCUMENT? QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCUMENT? OR INFORMATION? OR INFORMATION? SO, DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, SO, DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY, LES, THAT IT'S ESSENTIALLY LES, THAT IT'S ESSENTIALLY $1.18 MILLION DIFFERENCE IN THE $1.18 MILLION DIFFERENCE IN THE FIRST YEAR? FIRST YEAR? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? >> YEAH, $1,180,000. >> YEAH, $1,180,000. >> YEAH, $1,180,000. >> >> YEAH, $1,180,000. >> Mayor >> YEAH, $1,180,000. >> Mayor Bujalski: >> YEAH, $1,180,000. >> Mayor Bujalski: SO >> Mayor Bujalski: SO >> Mayor Bujalski: SO ESSENTIALLY >> Mayor Bujalski: SO ESSENTIALLY 1 >> Mayor Bujalski: SO ESSENTIALLY 1 MILLION >> Mayor Bujalski: SO ESSENTIALLY 1 MILLION 2. ESSENTIALLY 1 MILLION 2. >> YES. >> YES. >> YES. >> >> YES. >> Mayor >> YES. >> Mayor Bujalski: >> YES. >> Mayor Bujalski: GOTCHA. >> Mayor Bujalski: GOTCHA. >> Mayor Bujalski: GOTCHA. AND >> Mayor Bujalski: GOTCHA. AND YOU'RE >> Mayor Bujalski: GOTCHA. AND YOU'RE GOING >> Mayor Bujalski: GOTCHA. AND YOU'RE GOING OVER >> Mayor Bujalski: GOTCHA. AND YOU'RE GOING OVER THE >> Mayor Bujalski: GOTCHA. AND YOU'RE GOING OVER THE CRA >> Mayor Bujalski: GOTCHA. AND YOU'RE GOING OVER THE CRA AS AND YOU'RE GOING OVER THE CRA AS WELL? WELL? >> CRA IS ATTACHMENT 2. >> CRA IS ATTACHMENT 2. >> CRA IS ATTACHMENT 2. THE >> CRA IS ATTACHMENT 2. THE CRA, >> CRA IS ATTACHMENT 2. THE CRA, WE >> CRA IS ATTACHMENT 2. THE CRA, WE DID >> CRA IS ATTACHMENT 2. THE CRA, WE DID THE >> CRA IS ATTACHMENT 2. THE CRA, WE DID THE SAME >> CRA IS ATTACHMENT 2. THE CRA, WE DID THE SAME THING. THE CRA, WE DID THE SAME THING. WE APPLIED THE ROLLED-BACK RATE WE APPLIED THE ROLLED-BACK RATE OF 3.7503. OF 3.7503. IN ATTACHMENT 2. IN ATTACHMENT 2. AND IN THIS SCENARIO, THE IMPACT AND IN THIS SCENARIO, THE IMPACT IN 2024 IS THE REDUCTION IN TIF IN 2024 IS THE REDUCTION IN TIF REVENUE OF $85,000. REVENUE OF $85,000. AND FOR JUST THE ONE YEAR. AND FOR JUST THE ONE YEAR. AND IN THE LONG-RANGE PLAN AFTER AND IN THE LONG-RANGE PLAN AFTER 2029, THE CRA FUND -- IF YOU 2029, THE CRA FUND -- IF YOU LOOK OUT IN 2029, THE VERY LOOK OUT IN 2029, THE VERY BOTTOM NUMBER, IT SHOWS AN BOTTOM NUMBER, IT SHOWS AN AVAILABLE RESERVE OF 107,000. AVAILABLE RESERVE OF 107,000. THAT AMOUNT IS $1,240,000 LESS THAT AMOUNT IS $1,240,000 LESS THAN THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE THAN THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE CRA FUND. CRA FUND. THE PROPOSED BUDGET SHOWS A THE PROPOSED BUDGET SHOWS A $1.3 MILLION RESERVE OUT IN $1.3 MILLION RESERVE OUT IN 2029. 2029. SO BASICALLY IT'S REDUCING -- SO BASICALLY IT'S REDUCING -- THE REVENUE STREAM IS REDUCED BY THE REVENUE STREAM IS REDUCED BY 1.24 MILLION BY REDUCING THE 1.24 MILLION BY REDUCING THE MILLAGE RATE. MILLAGE RATE. >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. >> >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. >> ANY >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> Mayor >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> Mayor Bujalski: >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> Mayor Bujalski: ANY >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> Mayor Bujalski: ANY QUESTIONS >> Mayor Bujalski: ANY QUESTIONS >> Mayor Bujalski: ANY QUESTIONS ON >> Mayor Bujalski: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE >> Mayor Bujalski: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CRA >> Mayor Bujalski: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CRA PORTION >> Mayor Bujalski: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CRA PORTION OF >> Mayor Bujalski: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CRA PORTION OF THE >> Mayor Bujalski: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CRA PORTION OF THE ROLLED ON THE CRA PORTION OF THE ROLLED BACK? BACK? >> I DO. >> I DO. >> I DO. >> >> I DO. >> Mayor >> I DO. >> Mayor Bujalski: >> I DO. >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. >> >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. >> THANK >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. WOULD >> THANK YOU. WOULD YOU >> THANK YOU. WOULD YOU BE >> THANK YOU. WOULD YOU BE SO >> THANK YOU. WOULD YOU BE SO KIND >> THANK YOU. WOULD YOU BE SO KIND AS >> THANK YOU. WOULD YOU BE SO KIND AS TO >> THANK YOU. WOULD YOU BE SO KIND AS TO JUST WOULD YOU BE SO KIND AS TO JUST ANSWER THIS SIMPLE QUESTION? ANSWER THIS SIMPLE QUESTION? YOU HAVE ALREADY SAID IT. YOU HAVE ALREADY SAID IT. $85,000 IS LESS MONEY GOING INTO $85,000 IS LESS MONEY GOING INTO THE CRA FROM THE DUNEDIN BUDGET, THE CRA FROM THE DUNEDIN BUDGET, IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT CORRECT? >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. 85,000 >> YEAH. 85,000 LESS >> YEAH. 85,000 LESS REVENUE, >> YEAH. 85,000 LESS REVENUE, CORRECT. 85,000 LESS REVENUE, CORRECT. >> SO THAT MEANS THAT AS WE >> SO THAT MEANS THAT AS WE >> SO THAT MEANS THAT AS WE COLLECT >> SO THAT MEANS THAT AS WE COLLECT REVENUE >> SO THAT MEANS THAT AS WE COLLECT REVENUE FROM >> SO THAT MEANS THAT AS WE COLLECT REVENUE FROM THE >> SO THAT MEANS THAT AS WE COLLECT REVENUE FROM THE FOLKS COLLECT REVENUE FROM THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THE CRA, THERE'S A THAT LIVE IN THE CRA, THERE'S A MECHANISM THAT THEN TAKES MONEY MECHANISM THAT THEN TAKES MONEY AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING IT INTO AS OPPOSED TO PUTTING IT INTO OUR COFFERS OR OUR AD VALOREM OUR COFFERS OR OUR AD VALOREM COLLECTION OF MONEYS IN THE COLLECTION OF MONEYS IN THE GENERAL FUND. GENERAL FUND. IT PUTS IT IN THE CRA, CORRECT? IT PUTS IT IN THE CRA, CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> HAVE >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> HAVE YOU >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> HAVE YOU -- >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> HAVE YOU -- THANK >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> HAVE YOU -- THANK YOU >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> HAVE YOU -- THANK YOU VERY >> HAVE YOU -- THANK YOU VERY >> HAVE YOU -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MUCH. WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN ANY WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN ANY CONSIDERATION THAT YOU HAVE CONSIDERATION THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN, OR HAVE YOU -- OR HAVE GIVEN, OR HAVE YOU -- OR HAVE YOU TALKED WITH THE COUNTY AS YOU TALKED WITH THE COUNTY AS FAR AS ANY ROLLED BACKS THAT FAR AS ANY ROLLED BACKS THAT THEY PLAN ON HAVING? THEY PLAN ON HAVING? AND DID YOU CALCULATE IT AS IF AND DID YOU CALCULATE IT AS IF THERE WAS NO ROLL BACK FROM THE THERE WAS NO ROLL BACK FROM THE COUNTY? COUNTY? >> I HAVE NOT SPOKE TO THE >> I HAVE NOT SPOKE TO THE >> I HAVE NOT SPOKE TO THE COUNTY >> I HAVE NOT SPOKE TO THE COUNTY DIRECTLY >> I HAVE NOT SPOKE TO THE COUNTY DIRECTLY ABOUT >> I HAVE NOT SPOKE TO THE COUNTY DIRECTLY ABOUT THEIR COUNTY DIRECTLY ABOUT THEIR MILLAGE PLAN FOR '24 AT THIS MILLAGE PLAN FOR '24 AT THIS POINT OR WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE POINT OR WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE GOING TO KEEP THE SAME MILLAGE GOING TO KEEP THE SAME MILLAGE OR NOT. OR NOT. >> Mayor Bujalski: I DJOHN, I HE >> Mayor Bujalski: I DJOHN, I HE >> Mayor Bujalski: I DJOHN, I HE MAYBE >> Mayor Bujalski: I DJOHN, I HE MAYBE AN >> Mayor Bujalski: I DJOHN, I HE MAYBE AN INDICATOR. MAYBE AN INDICATOR. SO IN WORKING WITH FORWARD SO IN WORKING WITH FORWARD PINELLAS AND GOING OVER THEIR PINELLAS AND GOING OVER THEIR BUDGET, WHICH IS CONTROLLED BY BUDGET, WHICH IS CONTROLLED BY THE COUNTY MILLAGE, THEY WERE THE COUNTY MILLAGE, THEY WERE ORIGINALLY ADVISED TO CREATE TWO ORIGINALLY ADVISED TO CREATE TWO SCENARIOS ON THEIR BUDGET. SCENARIOS ON THEIR BUDGET. ONE FOR THE NORMAL MILLAGE RATE ONE FOR THE NORMAL MILLAGE RATE AND ONE WITH THE ROLLED BACK. AND ONE WITH THE ROLLED BACK. THAT WAS EARLY ON, MAYBE A FEW THAT WAS EARLY ON, MAYBE A FEW MONTHS AGO. MONTHS AGO. AND THEY WERE RECENTLY TOLD BY AND THEY WERE RECENTLY TOLD BY OMB, THE BUDGET OFFICE THAT THEY OMB, THE BUDGET OFFICE THAT THEY NO LONGER NEEDED TO DO THAT. NO LONGER NEEDED TO DO THAT. SO WHEN THEY PRESENTED THEIR SO WHEN THEY PRESENTED THEIR BUDGET LAST WEDNESDAY, THEY BUDGET LAST WEDNESDAY, THEY PRESENTED IT AT THE FULL MILLAGE PRESENTED IT AT THE FULL MILLAGE RATE. RATE. AND THERE WAS A QUESTION BY A AND THERE WAS A QUESTION BY A COUNTY COMMISSIONER THAT SAID, COUNTY COMMISSIONER THAT SAID, WHO AUTHORIZED YOU TO DO THAT? WHO AUTHORIZED YOU TO DO THAT? AND THEY SAID THE BUDGET OFFICE. AND THEY SAID THE BUDGET OFFICE. SOMETHING IS GOING ON IS MY SOMETHING IS GOING ON IS MY POINT. POINT. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO JUST >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO JUST FOR >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO JUST FOR FURTHER SO JUST FOR FURTHER CLARIFICATION, BOB CAN JUMP IN CLARIFICATION, BOB CAN JUMP IN OR YOU CAN JUST ANSWER THIS OR YOU CAN JUST ANSWER THIS QUESTION. QUESTION. SO AGAIN, THERE IS A RATE THAT SO AGAIN, THERE IS A RATE THAT THEY TRANSFER THE FUNDS. THEY TRANSFER THE FUNDS. I BELIEVE IT'S .57 FROM THE I BELIEVE IT'S .57 FROM THE MONEYS THAT ARE COLLECTED THAT MONEYS THAT ARE COLLECTED THAT GOES INTO THE CRA, IS THAT GOES INTO THE CRA, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT? >> OTHERR OUR TOTAL TIF REVENUE >> OTHERR OUR TOTAL TIF REVENUE >> OTHERR OUR TOTAL TIF REVENUE IS >> OTHERR OUR TOTAL TIF REVENUE IS ABOUT >> OTHERR OUR TOTAL TIF REVENUE IS ABOUT 45% >> OTHERR OUR TOTAL TIF REVENUE IS ABOUT 45% CITY >> OTHERR OUR TOTAL TIF REVENUE IS ABOUT 45% CITY TIF >> OTHERR OUR TOTAL TIF REVENUE IS ABOUT 45% CITY TIF AND >> OTHERR OUR TOTAL TIF REVENUE IS ABOUT 45% CITY TIF AND ABOUT IS ABOUT 45% CITY TIF AND ABOUT 55% COUNTY TIF. 55% COUNTY TIF. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? >> NO, I'M ASKING -- SO IF YOU >> NO, I'M ASKING -- SO IF YOU >> NO, I'M ASKING -- SO IF YOU COLLECT >> NO, I'M ASKING -- SO IF YOU COLLECT $100 >> NO, I'M ASKING -- SO IF YOU COLLECT $100 FROM >> NO, I'M ASKING -- SO IF YOU COLLECT $100 FROM ME >> NO, I'M ASKING -- SO IF YOU COLLECT $100 FROM ME AND >> NO, I'M ASKING -- SO IF YOU COLLECT $100 FROM ME AND I'M >> NO, I'M ASKING -- SO IF YOU COLLECT $100 FROM ME AND I'M IN COLLECT $100 FROM ME AND I'M IN THE CRA FOR MY TAX, HOW MUCH OF THE CRA FOR MY TAX, HOW MUCH OF THAT THEN GOES TO -- THAT THEN GOES TO -- SPECIFICALLY IS ADDRESSED TO THE SPECIFICALLY IS ADDRESSED TO THE CRA FUND? CRA FUND? >> ALL OF IT, YEAH. >> ALL OF IT, YEAH. >> ALL OF IT, YEAH. THE >> ALL OF IT, YEAH. THE MILLAGE >> ALL OF IT, YEAH. THE MILLAGE FROM >> ALL OF IT, YEAH. THE MILLAGE FROM THE >> ALL OF IT, YEAH. THE MILLAGE FROM THE PORTION THE MILLAGE FROM THE PORTION FROM THE CITY AND THE PORTION FROM THE CITY AND THE PORTION THE COUNTY GIVES ALL THAT BACK THE COUNTY GIVES ALL THAT BACK INTO INVESTING IN DOWNTOWN. INTO INVESTING IN DOWNTOWN. >> SO ALL OF THAT COMES BACK? >> SO ALL OF THAT COMES BACK? >> SO ALL OF THAT COMES BACK? >> >> SO ALL OF THAT COMES BACK? >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. THE >> YEAH. THE TIF >> YEAH. THE TIF HAS >> YEAH. THE TIF HAS ITS >> YEAH. THE TIF HAS ITS OWN >> YEAH. THE TIF HAS ITS OWN CALCULATION, THE TIF HAS ITS OWN CALCULATION, CORRECT. CORRECT. YEAH. YEAH. >> SO I'VE BEEN ASKED THIS >> SO I'VE BEEN ASKED THIS >> SO I'VE BEEN ASKED THIS QUESTION >> SO I'VE BEEN ASKED THIS QUESTION SEVERAL >> SO I'VE BEEN ASKED THIS QUESTION SEVERAL TIMES >> SO I'VE BEEN ASKED THIS QUESTION SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE QUESTION SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE WE HAVE ALWAYS MENTIONED .57 WE HAVE ALWAYS MENTIONED .57 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CRA. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CRA. AND PEOPLE HAVE RECENTLY BEEN AND PEOPLE HAVE RECENTLY BEEN ASKING ME WHAT REALLY HAPPENS TO ASKING ME WHAT REALLY HAPPENS TO THAT MONEY THAT'S COLLECTED IN THAT MONEY THAT'S COLLECTED IN THE CRA. THE CRA. AND I HAVE TRIED TO EXPLAIN THE AND I HAVE TRIED TO EXPLAIN THE WHOLE CRA CONCEPT WHICH IS A WHOLE CRA CONCEPT WHICH IS A STATEWIDE PROGRAM AND PRETTY STATEWIDE PROGRAM AND PRETTY MUCH WORKS THE SAME. MUCH WORKS THE SAME. WWE MAY HAVE OUR AMOUNT CHANGED WWE MAY HAVE OUR AMOUNT CHANGED BY THE COUNTY. BY THE COUNTY. BUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT -- I BUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT -- I GUESS WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THAT GUESS WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THAT MIGHT CHANGE AS WELL. MIGHT CHANGE AS WELL. >> WELL, WE ARE IN OUR FORECAST. >> WELL, WE ARE IN OUR FORECAST. >> WELL, WE ARE IN OUR FORECAST. >> >> WELL, WE ARE IN OUR FORECAST. >> Mayor >> WELL, WE ARE IN OUR FORECAST. >> Mayor Bujalski: >> WELL, WE ARE IN OUR FORECAST. >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH, >> WELL, WE ARE IN OUR FORECAST. >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH, YOUR >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH, YOUR >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH, YOUR FORECAST >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH, YOUR FORECAST IS >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH, YOUR FORECAST IS DIFFERENT. FORECAST IS DIFFERENT. >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT. >> >> RIGHT. >> Mayor >> RIGHT. >> Mayor Bujalski: >> RIGHT. >> Mayor Bujalski: IF >> RIGHT. >> Mayor Bujalski: IF YOU >> RIGHT. >> Mayor Bujalski: IF YOU LOOK >> Mayor Bujalski: IF YOU LOOK >> Mayor Bujalski: IF YOU LOOK AT >> Mayor Bujalski: IF YOU LOOK AT THE >> Mayor Bujalski: IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE >> Mayor Bujalski: IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE -- >> Mayor Bujalski: IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE -- IF >> Mayor Bujalski: IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE -- IF YOU >> Mayor Bujalski: IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE -- IF YOU LOOK >> Mayor Bujalski: IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE -- IF YOU LOOK AT AT THE WHOLE -- IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE -- THE WHOLE -- >> SO USE 50% FOR THE FORECAST >> SO USE 50% FOR THE FORECAST >> SO USE 50% FOR THE FORECAST THEN? THEN? >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. IN >> YEAH. IN 2025, >> YEAH. IN 2025, WE >> YEAH. IN 2025, WE ASSUME >> YEAH. IN 2025, WE ASSUME THAT >> YEAH. IN 2025, WE ASSUME THAT THE IN 2025, WE ASSUME THAT THE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTION IS THE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTION IS THE SAME AS OUR MILLAGE. SAME AS OUR MILLAGE. >> YEAH, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT. >> YEAH, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT. >> YEAH, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT. I >> YEAH, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT. I THINK >> YEAH, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT. I THINK IT'S >> YEAH, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, >> YEAH, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, TOO, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, TOO, VICE MAYOR, JUST TO MENTION VICE MAYOR, JUST TO MENTION THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL TAX TO THE THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL TAX TO THE DOWNTOWN. DOWNTOWN. IT'S JUST THE ABOVE ASSESSED IT'S JUST THE ABOVE ASSESSED TAXABLE VALUE THAT WAS CREATED. TAXABLE VALUE THAT WAS CREATED. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL TAX. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL TAX. JUST AN IDEA TO INVEST IN THAT JUST AN IDEA TO INVEST IN THAT AREA AS A FOCUS TO MAKE AREA AS A FOCUS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO INCREASE VALUE. IMPROVEMENTS TO INCREASE VALUE. >> JUST SO WE HAVE FULL FOCUS >> JUST SO WE HAVE FULL FOCUS >> JUST SO WE HAVE FULL FOCUS THEN, >> JUST SO WE HAVE FULL FOCUS THEN, SO >> JUST SO WE HAVE FULL FOCUS THEN, SO THERE >> JUST SO WE HAVE FULL FOCUS THEN, SO THERE WAS >> JUST SO WE HAVE FULL FOCUS THEN, SO THERE WAS -- >> JUST SO WE HAVE FULL FOCUS THEN, SO THERE WAS -- WE >> JUST SO WE HAVE FULL FOCUS THEN, SO THERE WAS -- WE DON'T THEN, SO THERE WAS -- WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS NOW. HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS NOW. SO THERE WAS A LEVEL THAT WAS SO THERE WAS A LEVEL THAT WAS SET. SET. SO HERE'S THE LEVEL. SO HERE'S THE LEVEL. AND THEN ANYTHING ABOVE THAT AND THEN ANYTHING ABOVE THAT CAME TO THE CRA. CAME TO THE CRA. >> CORRECT, VICE MAYOR. >> CORRECT, VICE MAYOR. >> CORRECT, VICE MAYOR. 1988, >> CORRECT, VICE MAYOR. 1988, 35,538,000, >> CORRECT, VICE MAYOR. 1988, 35,538,000, EVERYTHING 1988, 35,538,000, EVERYTHING ABOVE THAT PORTION REINVESTED. ABOVE THAT PORTION REINVESTED. AND ALL THAT GOES BACK TO AND ALL THAT GOES BACK TO GENERAL FUND WHEN THE CRA GENERAL FUND WHEN THE CRA SUNSETS. SUNSETS. WE ARE STEWARDS THAT CREATE WE ARE STEWARDS THAT CREATE VALUE. VALUE. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Bujalski: >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Bujalski: IF >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Bujalski: IF I >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Bujalski: IF I CAN >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Bujalski: IF I CAN JUST >> Mayor Bujalski: IF I CAN JUST >> Mayor Bujalski: IF I CAN JUST ADD, >> Mayor Bujalski: IF I CAN JUST ADD, I >> Mayor Bujalski: IF I CAN JUST ADD, I THINK >> Mayor Bujalski: IF I CAN JUST ADD, I THINK THE >> Mayor Bujalski: IF I CAN JUST ADD, I THINK THE SIMPLE >> Mayor Bujalski: IF I CAN JUST ADD, I THINK THE SIMPLE WAY >> Mayor Bujalski: IF I CAN JUST ADD, I THINK THE SIMPLE WAY TO ADD, I THINK THE SIMPLE WAY TO EXPLAIN IT IS A PERCENTAGE OF EXPLAIN IT IS A PERCENTAGE OF OUR TAX RATE GOES INTO THE CRA. OUR TAX RATE GOES INTO THE CRA. AND A PERCENTAGE OF THE COUNTY'S AND A PERCENTAGE OF THE COUNTY'S TAX RATE GOES INTO THE CRA. TAX RATE GOES INTO THE CRA. JUST -- IT GETS DIVERTED TO JUST -- IT GETS DIVERTED TO INVEST. INVEST. >> THE COUNTY IS A HUGE PART OF >> THE COUNTY IS A HUGE PART OF >> THE COUNTY IS A HUGE PART OF IT, >> THE COUNTY IS A HUGE PART OF IT, ABSOLUTELY. IT, ABSOLUTELY. >> Mayor Bujalski: YES, MA'AM. >> Mayor Bujalski: YES, MA'AM. >> Mayor Bujalski: YES, MA'AM. >> >> Mayor Bujalski: YES, MA'AM. >> SO >> Mayor Bujalski: YES, MA'AM. >> SO I >> Mayor Bujalski: YES, MA'AM. >> SO I WANT >> Mayor Bujalski: YES, MA'AM. >> SO I WANT TO >> Mayor Bujalski: YES, MA'AM. >> SO I WANT TO MAKE >> Mayor Bujalski: YES, MA'AM. >> SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE >> Mayor Bujalski: YES, MA'AM. >> SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I >> Mayor Bujalski: YES, MA'AM. >> SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE >> SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE >> SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THIS. THIS. IN THE GENERAL FUND IF WE WENT IN THE GENERAL FUND IF WE WENT FROM -- SORRY. FROM -- SORRY. JUST TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THIS JUST TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THIS STRAIGHT. STRAIGHT. IF WE GO FROM IN THE GENERAL IF WE GO FROM IN THE GENERAL FUND MILLAGE RATE TO THE FULL FUND MILLAGE RATE TO THE FULL ROLLED-BACK RATE, IT'S A ROLLED-BACK RATE, IT'S A $1.2 MILLION DIFFERENCE THE $1.2 MILLION DIFFERENCE THE FIRST YEAR IN REVENUE. FIRST YEAR IN REVENUE. >> IT'S 1.4 MILLION ACTUALLY. >> IT'S 1.4 MILLION ACTUALLY. >> IT'S 1.4 MILLION ACTUALLY. >> >> IT'S 1.4 MILLION ACTUALLY. >> 1.4. >> 1.4. >> 1.4. >> >> 1.4. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> >> YEAH. >> AND >> YEAH. >> AND THEN >> YEAH. >> AND THEN IN >> YEAH. >> AND THEN IN THE >> YEAH. >> AND THEN IN THE CRA, >> YEAH. >> AND THEN IN THE CRA, IF >> YEAH. >> AND THEN IN THE CRA, IF WE >> YEAH. >> AND THEN IN THE CRA, IF WE GO >> AND THEN IN THE CRA, IF WE GO >> AND THEN IN THE CRA, IF WE GO FROM >> AND THEN IN THE CRA, IF WE GO FROM THE >> AND THEN IN THE CRA, IF WE GO FROM THE MILLAGE >> AND THEN IN THE CRA, IF WE GO FROM THE MILLAGE RATE >> AND THEN IN THE CRA, IF WE GO FROM THE MILLAGE RATE TO >> AND THEN IN THE CRA, IF WE GO FROM THE MILLAGE RATE TO THE FROM THE MILLAGE RATE TO THE FULL ROLLED-BACK RATE, THE FIRST FULL ROLLED-BACK RATE, THE FIRST YEAR IMPACT IS HOW MUCH? YEAR IMPACT IS HOW MUCH? >> 85,000. >> 85,000. >> 85,000. >> >> 85,000. >> OH, >> 85,000. >> OH, IT'S >> 85,000. >> OH, IT'S JUST >> 85,000. >> OH, IT'S JUST -- >> OH, IT'S JUST -- >> OH, IT'S JUST -- >> >> OH, IT'S JUST -- >> FOR >> OH, IT'S JUST -- >> FOR JUST >> OH, IT'S JUST -- >> FOR JUST ONE >> OH, IT'S JUST -- >> FOR JUST ONE YEAR. >> FOR JUST ONE YEAR. >> FOR JUST ONE YEAR. >> >> FOR JUST ONE YEAR. >> THAT >> FOR JUST ONE YEAR. >> THAT JUST >> FOR JUST ONE YEAR. >> THAT JUST SEEMED >> FOR JUST ONE YEAR. >> THAT JUST SEEMED -- >> FOR JUST ONE YEAR. >> THAT JUST SEEMED -- WELL, >> FOR JUST ONE YEAR. >> THAT JUST SEEMED -- WELL, ALL >> THAT JUST SEEMED -- WELL, ALL >> THAT JUST SEEMED -- WELL, ALL RIGHT, >> THAT JUST SEEMED -- WELL, ALL RIGHT, INTERESTING. RIGHT, INTERESTING. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS TO CONFIRM IF WE ARE ABLE TO TO CONFIRM IF WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT RATES. HAVE TWO DIFFERENT RATES. CAN WE HAVE A ROLLED-BACK RATE CAN WE HAVE A ROLLED-BACK RATE FOR CRA AND NOT A ROLLED-BACK FOR CRA AND NOT A ROLLED-BACK RATE FOR GENERAL FUND OR THE RATE FOR GENERAL FUND OR THE REVERSE? REVERSE? OR IS IT ALL OR NOTHING? OR IS IT ALL OR NOTHING? >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY NEED >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY NEED >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY NEED TO >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY NEED TO BE >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY NEED TO BE CONSISTENT >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY NEED TO BE CONSISTENT AND >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY NEED TO BE CONSISTENT AND THEY >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY NEED TO BE CONSISTENT AND THEY NEED TO BE CONSISTENT AND THEY NEED TO BE THE SAME, YEAH. TO BE THE SAME, YEAH. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Bujalski: >> THANK YOU. >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. BEFORE >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. BEFORE WE >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. BEFORE WE MOVE >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. BEFORE WE MOVE OFF >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. BEFORE WE MOVE OFF THE BEFORE WE MOVE OFF THE ROLLED-BACK RATE, I JUST -- ARE ROLLED-BACK RATE, I JUST -- ARE WE GOING TO BE BRINGING THIS UP WE GOING TO BE BRINGING THIS UP TODAY? TODAY? I'M JUST GOING TO LOOK AT YOU. I'M JUST GOING TO LOOK AT YOU. BECAUSE IF WE ARE TODAY, RIGHT BECAUSE IF WE ARE TODAY, RIGHT NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO IT. NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO IT. >> AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M IN >> AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M IN >> AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M IN SUPPORT >> AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M IN SUPPORT OF >> AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M IN SUPPORT OF SOME >> AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M IN SUPPORT OF SOME KIND >> AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M IN SUPPORT OF SOME KIND OF >> AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M IN SUPPORT OF SOME KIND OF A >> AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M IN SUPPORT OF SOME KIND OF A ROLL SUPPORT OF SOME KIND OF A ROLL BACK AND FOR ALL THE REASONS BACK AND FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT I HAVE GIVEN BEFORE. THAT I HAVE GIVEN BEFORE. SO IF SOMEBODY IS LISTENING TO SO IF SOMEBODY IS LISTENING TO IT NOW, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE OUR IT NOW, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE OUR TIME I DON'T THINK UNLESS YOU TIME I DON'T THINK UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO TO GO THROUGH ALL OF WANT ME TO TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT. THAT. BUT WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON BUT WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE ECONOMY. WITH THE ECONOMY. WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE INFLATION RATE. THE INFLATION RATE. MOST OF US ARE UNDERSTANDING OF MOST OF US ARE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE FED WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE FED AND THE INTEREST RATES. AND THE INTEREST RATES. WE HAVE TREMENDOUS WAGE WE HAVE TREMENDOUS WAGE INFLATION IN THE U.S. AND WE INFLATION IN THE U.S. AND WE HAVE IT HERE. HAVE IT HERE. WE HAVE IT HERE IN THE COUNTY AS WE HAVE IT HERE IN THE COUNTY AS WELL. WELL. SO WE HAVE GOT THREE BIG SO WE HAVE GOT THREE BIG PROBLEMS FOR HOMEOWNERS RIGHT PROBLEMS FOR HOMEOWNERS RIGHT NOW. NOW. ONE OF THEM IS INSURANCE. ONE OF THEM IS INSURANCE. AND ONE IS ON THE LEGAL SIDE. AND ONE IS ON THE LEGAL SIDE. AND THAT'S A STATE REQUIREMENT. AND THAT'S A STATE REQUIREMENT. THE STATE IS WORKING ON THAT AND THE STATE IS WORKING ON THAT AND HOPEFULLY CAN CORRECT SOME OF HOPEFULLY CAN CORRECT SOME OF THAT. THAT. BUT STILL, IT MEANS FARMERS BUT STILL, IT MEANS FARMERS INSURANCE JUST LEFT. INSURANCE JUST LEFT. FARMERS INSURANCE -- EVERYBODY FARMERS INSURANCE -- EVERYBODY KNOWS FARMERS INSURANCE HERE. KNOWS FARMERS INSURANCE HERE. THEY ARE PULLING OUT OF THE THEY ARE PULLING OUT OF THE STATE. STATE. SO INSURANCES ARE GOING TO SO INSURANCES ARE GOING TO BECOME TOUGH. BECOME TOUGH. THEY ARE EXPENSIVE. THEY ARE EXPENSIVE. AND THAT'S AN INCREASE FOR AND THAT'S AN INCREASE FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S LIVING IN A SOMEBODY THAT'S LIVING IN A HOUSE. HOUSE. WE HAVE A HIGH AGE RATE HERE IN WE HAVE A HIGH AGE RATE HERE IN DUNEDIN AS WE ALL ARE AWARE OF. DUNEDIN AS WE ALL ARE AWARE OF. MOST OF WHICH MEANS THERE'S A MOST OF WHICH MEANS THERE'S A LARGE NUMBER OF THOSE FOLKS WHO LARGE NUMBER OF THOSE FOLKS WHO MAY NOT BE ACTIVELY EMPLOYED. MAY NOT BE ACTIVELY EMPLOYED. AND SOME OF THEM ARE ON TOTALLY AND SOME OF THEM ARE ON TOTALLY FIXED INCOMES. FIXED INCOMES. SO AS OUR INTEREST -- AS THEIR SO AS OUR INTEREST -- AS THEIR INSURANCE RATE GOES UP, INSURANCE RATE GOES UP, OBVIOUSLY, THEN THERE'S A REPAIR OBVIOUSLY, THEN THERE'S A REPAIR ISSUE. ISSUE. AND SOME OF THESE INSURANCE AND SOME OF THESE INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE GETTING THESE COMPANIES ARE GETTING THESE PEOPLE TO REPLACE THEIR ROOFS PEOPLE TO REPLACE THEIR ROOFS BEFORE THEY CAN SELL THEM, ETC. BEFORE THEY CAN SELL THEM, ETC. SO THEY WERE SCRAMBLING AND SO THEY WERE SCRAMBLING AND ATTEMPTING TO DO THAT. ATTEMPTING TO DO THAT. AND THERE'S OTHERS THAT WE KNOW AND THERE'S OTHERS THAT WE KNOW ARE STRUGGLING. ARE STRUGGLING. WE SIT AND WATCH AND WE SUPPORT WE SIT AND WATCH AND WE SUPPORT DUNEDIN CARES AND OTHER DUNEDIN CARES AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN OUR COUNTY ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN OUR COUNTY THAT ATTEMPT TO FEED THE FOLKS THAT ATTEMPT TO FEED THE FOLKS THAT NEED SOME FOOD. THAT NEED SOME FOOD. SO WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO REACH SO WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO REACH OUT TO EACH ONE OF THOSE OUT TO EACH ONE OF THOSE PERSONS. PERSONS. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR NEEDS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE. ARE. IT'S SOMEWHAT EMBARRASSING FOR IT'S SOMEWHAT EMBARRASSING FOR SOME OF THEM AND SOMEWHAT -- IN SOME OF THEM AND SOMEWHAT -- IN SOME CASES, THEY ARE JUST NOT SOME CASES, THEY ARE JUST NOT GOING TO TELL YOU. GOING TO TELL YOU. MOST OF US HERE HAVE DONE MEALS MOST OF US HERE HAVE DONE MEALS ON WHEELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON WHEELS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND YOU REALLY GET THAT FLAVOR AND YOU REALLY GET THAT FLAVOR VERY, VERY QUICKLY. VERY, VERY QUICKLY. AS WE LOOK AT THIS, AT A RATE AS WE LOOK AT THIS, AT A RATE THAT GOES UP, WE HAVE MADE THE THAT GOES UP, WE HAVE MADE THE COMMENT BEFORE THERE'S THREE COMMENT BEFORE THERE'S THREE THINGS YOU CAN DO. THINGS YOU CAN DO. AND WHEN WE NEED MONEY. AND WHEN WE NEED MONEY. WE CAN EITHER INCREASE TAXES OR WE CAN EITHER INCREASE TAXES OR FEES, BOTH THE SAME TO A FEES, BOTH THE SAME TO A HOMEOWNER, OR YOU CAN CUT YOUR HOMEOWNER, OR YOU CAN CUT YOUR SERVICE OR YOU CAN CUT SERVICE OR YOU CAN CUT EMPLOYEES. EMPLOYEES. AND NEITHER ONE OF THOSE -- THE AND NEITHER ONE OF THOSE -- THE LAST TWO DON'T SEEM VERY VIABLE LAST TWO DON'T SEEM VERY VIABLE FOR ME. FOR ME. SO IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE WISH TO SO IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE WISH TO DO IT, YOU ARE MAKING A GOOD DO IT, YOU ARE MAKING A GOOD POINT. POINT. WE SHOULD DISCUSS THAT AND WE SHOULD DISCUSS THAT AND DECIDE WHETHER WE THINK WE COULD DECIDE WHETHER WE THINK WE COULD AND WOULD. AND WOULD. IT'S NOT A MATTER OF COULD. IT'S NOT A MATTER OF COULD. IT'S A MATTER OF WOULD WE. IT'S A MATTER OF WOULD WE. IT'S A MATTER OF US SAYING YES, IT'S A MATTER OF US SAYING YES, WE REALIZE THAT. WE REALIZE THAT. NOW, YOU GIVE US A FULL ROLL NOW, YOU GIVE US A FULL ROLL BACK. BACK. SO WHEN I TALK ABOUT ROLL BACKS, SO WHEN I TALK ABOUT ROLL BACKS, THERE'S IN SOME CASES AT LEAST THERE'S IN SOME CASES AT LEAST THE APPEARANCE THAT YOU ARE THE APPEARANCE THAT YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO HELP. ATTEMPTING TO HELP. I DID A LADY'S IN OUR COMMUNITY I DID A LADY'S IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IT LOOKED LIKE SHE WOULD BE AND IT LOOKED LIKE SHE WOULD BE SAVING $500 FOR THE FULL. SAVING $500 FOR THE FULL. I ASKED HER BASICALLY, GIVE ME A I ASKED HER BASICALLY, GIVE ME A ROUGH IDEA WHAT YOU PAY. ROUGH IDEA WHAT YOU PAY. SO I DID A QUICK CALCULATION. SO I DID A QUICK CALCULATION. SO SHE WOULD SAVE ABOUT $500 ON SO SHE WOULD SAVE ABOUT $500 ON A FULL ROLL BACK. A FULL ROLL BACK. SO I'M NOT NECESSARILY SO I'M NOT NECESSARILY SUGGESTING A FULL ROLL BACK, BUT SUGGESTING A FULL ROLL BACK, BUT I WAS SUGGESTING SOMETHING THAT I WAS SUGGESTING SOMETHING THAT IS REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY IS REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND SAYING THAT WE ARE WILLING AND SAYING THAT WE ARE WILLING TO ROLL BACK OUR TAXES. TO ROLL BACK OUR TAXES. AGAIN, THAT MEANS DECREASED AGAIN, THAT MEANS DECREASED INCOME. INCOME. WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT. WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT. WE BASICALLY TALK ABOUT HOW TO WE BASICALLY TALK ABOUT HOW TO SPEND MONEY IS WHAT WE TALK SPEND MONEY IS WHAT WE TALK ABOUT AND PROJECTS THAT WE WANT ABOUT AND PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO DO. TO DO. SO WE CAN ALWAYS BE PANTING SO WE CAN ALWAYS BE PANTING AFTER MORE MONEY, BUT THIS IS AFTER MORE MONEY, BUT THIS IS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT PEOPLE ARE ONE OF THE AREAS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE RECEIVING TAX BILLS GOING TO BE RECEIVING TAX BILLS FROM US, JUST LIKE THEY ARE FROM US, JUST LIKE THEY ARE GOING TO BE SAVING AT LEAST GOING TO BE SAVING AT LEAST THREE OTHER BILLS FROM US -- THREE OTHER BILLS FROM US -- WATER AND ETC., ETC. WATER AND ETC., ETC. AND SO WE MAY END UP INCREASING AND SO WE MAY END UP INCREASING THOSE BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE THOSE BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE STUDIES OR WE'LL LOOK AT IT AND STUDIES OR WE'LL LOOK AT IT AND THOSE ARE ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND THOSE ARE ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND THEY HAVE TO BREAK EVEN. THEY HAVE TO BREAK EVEN. AND SO WHETHER WE WANT TO TAKE AND SO WHETHER WE WANT TO TAKE OUT ADDITIONAL LOANS, ADDITIONAL OUT ADDITIONAL LOANS, ADDITIONAL LOANS ON TOP OF SOME OF THAT LOANS ON TOP OF SOME OF THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER QUESTION. WOULD BE ANOTHER QUESTION. SO YEAH, IT'S A GOOD TIME TO SO YEAH, IT'S A GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT OR AT LEAST TO TALK ABOUT IT OR AT LEAST TO MAKE THE POINT. MAKE THE POINT. I SAID I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF I SAID I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF A ROLL BACK. A ROLL BACK. AND SO I GUESS I WOULD SUPPORT AND SO I GUESS I WOULD SUPPORT SOME KIND OF A ROLL BACK FOR THE SOME KIND OF A ROLL BACK FOR THE RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. ANY >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. ANY FEEDBACK >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. ANY FEEDBACK FROM >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. ANY FEEDBACK FROM MY >> Mayor Bujalski: OKAY. ANY FEEDBACK FROM MY COLLEAGUES? ANY FEEDBACK FROM MY COLLEAGUES? COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER. >> WELL, YEAH. >> WELL, YEAH. >> WELL, YEAH. HEY, >> WELL, YEAH. HEY, I >> WELL, YEAH. HEY, I THINK >> WELL, YEAH. HEY, I THINK EVERY >> WELL, YEAH. HEY, I THINK EVERY ONE >> WELL, YEAH. HEY, I THINK EVERY ONE OF >> WELL, YEAH. HEY, I THINK EVERY ONE OF US HEY, I THINK EVERY ONE OF US SITTING UP HERE AS LEADERS OF SITTING UP HERE AS LEADERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WANT A ROLL BACK. OUR COMMUNITY WANT A ROLL BACK. I WANT MORE THAN A ROLL BACK, I WANT MORE THAN A ROLL BACK, RIGHT? RIGHT? WE DO HAVE A COMMUNITY, THOUGH, WE DO HAVE A COMMUNITY, THOUGH, THAT HAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT THAT HAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT THEY WANT, THAT THEY EXPECT FROM THEY WANT, THAT THEY EXPECT FROM OUR QUALITY OF SERVICE. OUR QUALITY OF SERVICE. SO ABSOLUTELY, I WANT TO BE SO ABSOLUTELY, I WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE WORLD WE ARE IN SENSITIVE TO THE WORLD WE ARE IN AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO REDUCE OUR TAXES. REDUCE OUR TAXES. AND, YOU KNOW, BE VERY SENSITIVE AND, YOU KNOW, BE VERY SENSITIVE TO OUR RESIDENTS. TO OUR RESIDENTS. ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, WE ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES HAVE A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES AS WELL. AS WELL. WE HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF THE WE HAVE BEEN VICTIMS OF THE INFLATION AS WELL. INFLATION AS WELL. 60% OF OUR GENERAL FUND IS 60% OF OUR GENERAL FUND IS LABOR. LABOR. AND WE CAN'T KEEP OUR PLACES AND WE CAN'T KEEP OUR PLACES FILLED. FILLED. WE CAN'T KEEP OUR VACANCIES WE CAN'T KEEP OUR VACANCIES FILLED. FILLED. AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THE AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THE IMPACT OF THAT. IMPACT OF THAT. JOHN, I 100% RESPECT WHAT YOU JOHN, I 100% RESPECT WHAT YOU SAY. SAY. I ABSOLUTELY WANT TO ROLL BACK I ABSOLUTELY WANT TO ROLL BACK AS WELL. AS WELL. I WANT MORE THAN A FULL ROLL I WANT MORE THAN A FULL ROLL BACK. BACK. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW REALISTIC I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW REALISTIC IT IS. IT IS. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE BUT I THINK WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE WORKING TOWARDS THAT GOAL. WORKING TOWARDS THAT GOAL. AND I HOPE THAT AS WE MOVE AND I HOPE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S YOU OR THE REST OF US, IF THAT'S YOU OR THE REST OF US, IF THAT'S TRULY WHAT WE WANT TO DO, THEN TRULY WHAT WE WANT TO DO, THEN WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO SAY WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO SAY WHAT WE WANT TO CUT. WHAT WE WANT TO CUT. YOU K

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Present: Also Present: DUNEDIN, FLORIDA MINUTES OF THE CITY COMMISSION BUDGET WORKSHOP JULY 18, 2025 CITY HALL, 737 LOUDEN AVE 10:00 A.M. Mayor Maureen "Moe" Freaney, Vice Mayor Jeff Gow, Commissioners Tom Dugard, Steven Sandbergen and Robert Walker City Manager Jennifer Bramley, Deputy City Manager Jorge Quintas, Finance Director Les Tyler, Interim Parks & Recreation Director Jocelyn Brodhead , Library Director Phyllis Gorshe, Fire Chief Jeff Parks, CRA/Economic Development Director Bob lronsmith, Community Development Director George Kinney, Human Resource/Risk Management Director Theresa E Smalling, Ph.D., IT Services Director Michael Nagy, Communications Director Sue Burness, Public Works Director Sue Bartlett, Utilities Director/City Engineer Clayton Watkins, Budget Manager Jean Hochwarter, Solid Waste Director Bill Pickrum, Deputy Fire Chief Mike Handoga, Operations Division Manager Janice "Nan" Bennett, Environmental Program Manager Michelle Monteclaro, Strategy & Sustainability Manager Nicole Delfino, Sustainability Program Manager Natalie Gass, Senior Public Works Designer Alejandro Gonzalez, Harbormaster Laurie Ferguson, Golf Course Operations Manager Blair Kline and one person in the audience. CALL TO ORDER Mayor Freaney called the July 18, 2025, City Commission Budget Workshop to order at 10:00 a.m. City Manager Opening Remarks City Manager Bramley made the following comments. Traditionally there is first a Municipal Business Plan Workshop which was not done this year given the Strategic Planning and the Digital Budget Book enables being able to stay at a higher level. The Municipal Business Plan is now an operating instrument for City staff. Today the discussion will include some New Initiatives and Capital Improvement Program (CIP) projects in FY2026 with various staff presenting. Item 3, Commission Discussion on Initiatives and CIP Projects; throughout the year whether on the dais or in one-on-one meetings the Commission talks about things they would like to see moving forward in the budget. This will be the opportunity for the Commission to talk about those items . Traditionally staff take back those items for analysis. There is a slide in the presentation prepared by the Finance staff regarding Storm Related Expenses and Reimbursement that is informational only. This has been a question in the community. Staff wanted to put this before the Commission early in the budgeting process. There will be a fund-by-fund review of the Baseline Assumptions and Long-Range Projects for all funds in the FY2026 budget. There will be discussion of Personnel Requests from City staff. She has always committed to tell the Commission what the staff has asked and her recommendations for funding . 25-1

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Then there will be City Commission Direction. Dunedin City Commission The goal is to be finished with the agenda by 4:00 p.m . to open the meeting to public input. In response to the request from Mayor Freaney, City Manager Bramley explained: Today is a review of the information City staff has to present. The action is suggestions and any consensus to move forward with analysis . Last night the Commission adopted the millage rate of 4.1345 which is the maximum millage rate; it can go less, but not more. That was established by resolution by the Commission last night , that was the formal action. 1. BUSINESS 1.a. FY 2026 Budget Workshop #1; FY 2026 Proposed Operating & Capital Budget Staff Presentation Finance Director Tyler advised : The digital budget book mentioned by City Manager Bramley is the first time it has been done using Clear Gov . It is on the website and he thinks is more user friendly for the public. There have been positive comments that it is easier to read. There is a hard copy as well. Thereafter he referenced the PowerPoint presentation (Supplement-Attachment-E) attached to the staffing memo; the following are highlights and comments . 1.c. New Initiatives & CIP Projects in FY 2026 Staff Presentation Finance Director Tyler advised the goal here is to have each department with new projects and initiatives to briefly review those and to address any questions the Commission might have. The Commission was provided a summary document outlining the various projects. Summary Explanations Community Development Community Development Director Kinney presented: Beltrees Street ADA Improvements - New - Impact Fee-Multimodal - $15,560 One Business Plan Initiative - Implementation of recommendations from the approved Complete Streets Plan . It is anticipated to find grant funding for this project. Commission questions, comments, and concerns were addressed to include: Ramps and a round-about are part of the recommendations in the plan . A consultant can be selected from the City 's list or if approved the project can go out to bid. Finance Finance Director Tyler presented : Penny For Pinellas V - 2030 - 2039 Projects - New Penny - No Cost Impact This is to begin the process of the City staff working with the Commission to develop a list of projects . Based on Penny IV, the County will be requiring the information approximately March - June of next year. 25-2

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Dunedin City Commission There is a discussion regarding the County's upcoming Penny-for-Pinellas campaign at the City Manager Consortium Breakfast, Friday, August 1, 2025. There will be information on timing and sort of the big picture after that meeting. Deputy City Manager Quintas and Communications Director Burness will be attending the meeting . Commission questions, comments, and concerns were addressed to include: Approximately $5.1 Million comes from the Penny annually. If consistent with the previous Penny, it will go to the voters November 2027. Penny funds must be spent on Capital projects with a useful life of a 7-year return on investment/service life unless the rules have changed. There is some flexibility on what the County considers capital. Deputy City Manager Quintas provided an example and details of a project in the city funded by the Penny. Fire Deputy Fire Chief Handoga presented: Bunker Gear Drving Equipment - New- General - $30,000 Regulations now require more frequent equipment washing, the system gets the gear dryer quicker for less chance of issues like mold. Returns the gear back to service much quicker. Computer Replacement (Operations & Administration) - New- General $155,500 Related to the Pinellas County Emergency Communications and the Pinellas Records Management. The 911 and Computer Aided Dispatch system . The Sheriff's Office has recognized the current system is at end of life and not serviceable in the near future and has contracted with a company to develop the software and system to be used going forward. There are minimum hardware requirements which the City's current systems do not meet. This also is used for the City 's Emergency Operations Center. Dry Suits and PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) for Water Rescue - New - General - $30,000 To protect personnel from the risk factors involved in rescue in flood waters . The existing equipment before the last storms was already at end of life. Engine & Fire Pump Overhaul on Reserve Apparatus - New - General FY26/$102,000 - FY27/$102,000 Once the new engine is delivered December 2025 , one of the current engines will move to reserve status and be sent to be overhauled . This is related to the long lead time for parts and the increased down time for the primary apparatus. Two engines are being considered to put in reserve and Fleet will determine which one will be first. Firefighter Agility and Training Equipment - New - General - $48,000 Equipment that mimics fire ground tasks . This is for daily training. Also , there is the ability for pre-hire physical agility testing on site rather than a third party with cost and scheduling issues. Injuries are reduced through conditioning. Rigid Inflatable Boat - New - General - $57,000 Supports rescue during flood waters. Jon boats while effective are unable to access all the areas , slow and limited to 2 patients at a time. During the previous flooding they had 100 911 calls and successfully rescued 65. 25-3

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Dunedin City Commission SH ERP - Amphibious all-terrain (ATV) Rescue & Fire Suppression Vehicle - New - General - FY28/$270,000 Vehicles that operate in water and on land. The last storms it was found in the city there were areas even the Sheriffs high water rescue vehicles could not reach and the boats were taking a long time as mentioned. Research indicated that vehicles could be outfitted with fire-fighting capabilities carrying a fire pump for fires in flooded areas . Commission questions, comments, and concerns were addressed to include: The Bunker Gear Drying Equipment request is for two to be at two stations. This equipment has not been purchased by the City in the past, possibly proposed, but it did not get approved. The Computer Replacement is essentially being forced in order to meet the minimum requirements of the new system. The anticipated going live is next year; it is still a process and not a guarantee. If it does not go forward and the system does not meet what the contractor requirements are, the City would not be required to make the purchase. There is no County or State money available . If the program with the County does not go through there needs to be some budget for regular computer replacement scheduled for this year that are not being done due to this request. The SHERP is from a company originally in the Ukraine; it is on the State purchasing bid through the Florida Sheriffs Office so, it has been vetted at the State level and to be purchased under the cooperative. The concerns were shared, and it was found to be designed for low maintenance and parts are very accessible . In terms of other municipalities, the Pinellas Sheriffs Office is evaluating them and potentially purchasing some ; however , has not moved forward yet. They are used successfully throughout the state . It would have been a huge asset for the coastal areas west of Alternate 19. Discussion ensued with Deputy Fire Chief Handoga providing additional information on the SHERP . City Manager Bramley expressed her concerns about the SHERP which are related to not having equipment needed in the future such as the Rigid Inflatable Boat for neighborhoods and not having any capability for rescue calls. Regarding the Rigid Inflatable Boat use as opposed to the aluminum Jon boat that reached a point where those could not reach areas and impacted the rescues. It provides more flexibility and is more stable. Finance Director Tyler advised he would say the focus is on the FY26 budget in terms of the items shown for FY27 and FY28 . City Manager Bramley confirmed. The Firefighter Agility and Training Equipment would be in the apparatus bay as it is too large to be housed inside a wellness room. HR & Risk Management HR & Risk Management Director Smalling presented: Public Safety Mitigation - New Impact Fee/Law Enforcement - $80,000 The Impact Fee for Law Enforcement are fees charged to developers with new development because new services are needed. 25-4

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Dunedin City Commission Currently there is $80,000 and talking with the Sheriff's Office they thought it would be helpful to use those funds to increase the number of barriers for special events and look into more permanent safety measures in the downtown area such as bollards. It is not always special events that create the need for additional security. Commission questions, comments, and concerns were addressed to include : Dr. Smalling explained these are already available funds, not a request for funds and this is the staff recommendation for the use of the funds. City Manager Bramley advised the Sheriffs Office budget has two electric bikes which had been a consideration for the City. She noted working with the Sheriffs Office the City can purchase its own barriers to ensure being safe. Also, they would like to in the future purchase some bollards for around the Living Room which might be seen in a future budget year. Dr. Smalling explained there have been a few times when the barriers were shared with the Sheriffs Office due to the number of events in the region they are obligated to service. IT Services IT Services Director Nagy advised: Microsoft Teams Phone System - New - IT Services - FY28 $220,000 This item is the replacement of the current phone system the City has had for approximately 20 years. Since the City has implemented Microsoft 365 which includes Tearns this phone system would allow for eliminating phones around the City where they are not needed. Headsets can be used to make and take phone calls from their computer . This is put out to FY2028 because it will be a major project that will take about a year to implement Citywide. The City's complete phone system would be replaced. Library Library Director Gorshe presented: Replace Library Fluorescent Light Fixtures - New - General - $152,000 The current light fixtures are outdated and are 29 years old and beyond useful life expectancy. The request is for new LED fixtures to bring back appropriate lighting levels, decrease maintenance cost over time, decrease energy consumption and electricity costs. The project is completely funded by a bequest. Parks & Recreation Interim Parks & Recreation Director Broadhead presented: Dunedin Community Center/Edinburgh Hall Lighting Project- New - General - FY28 $25,000 The existing light fixtures are original to the facility's 2007 construction, have exceeded their useful life and are extremely fragile. Sourcing replacement bulbs is becoming increasingly difficult and costly. This would be the long-term solution for adequate lighting. Dunedin Community Center/Edinburgh Hall Sound Project - New - General -$78,000 The existing sound equipment is also original and no longer meets the demands of the programs. Various components have been replaced through the years; however, the equipment in its entirety is not compatible with modern technology. 25-5

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Dunedin City Commission The planned upgrade components were listed which will be a streamlined user-friendly set up. The Center partners with six performing groups as well as the City internal programing each having specific audio requirements. Electrical Panel Replacements - New - General - $50,000 This project is for Edgewater, Weaver Park and 4 panels at Fisher Fields. Years of exposure to the elements have caused significant deterioration and potential safety hazards. Fisher Little League Complex Lights - New - General FY26 $115,000 - FY27 $120,000 - FY28 $120,000 - FY29 $230,500 - FY30 $126,000- FY31 $126,000 The complex lights have outlived their useful life; probably installed 40 to 50 years ago. The project includes new LED lights and new housings are more energy efficient and they have the ability to operate remotely. The existing poles are grandfathered; therefore, do not require permitting, so those would not be replaced. Repairs are increasing and it is difficult to find replacement bulbs . The budgeting is in multiple years because of the overall cost of the large project. Cost escalations were factored in at 5% every 2 years. The FY29 amount is due to the size of the field for that year. Hale Senior Activity Center-Interior Painting - New - General - FY28 $55,000 This project is for painting the interior of the entire facility, scheduled for FY28. This ensures the City being a competitor in the rental space , a revenue source for the Center . MLK Jr. Recreation Center Playground Fence Replacement - New - General - FY29 $45,000 This is for replacement around the entire perimeter of the playground and the gates. At the scheduled replacement the existing fencing will be 20 years old and needs replacement, especially the gates for safety. Commission questions, comments, and concerns were addressed to include : There was cost escalation for the Edinburgh Hall Sound Project due to the current quote that was a little less; however, with it being pushed out staff wanted to ensure the budget would cover everything. Regarding the Edinburgh Hall Lighting Project a temporary measure was done by the Facilities crew. Golf Operations Manager Kline presented: Dunedin Golf Club Locker Room Remodel - New - Golf Operations FY 26 $25,000 - FY27 125,000 This project was in the original plans for the renovation of the clubhouse . It was taken out because the renovation went significantly over the Finance Department anticipation. It was found the locker room designed in 1997 was almost like a private club operation. Mr. Kline discussed the details of the existing locker room and the changes for the renovation to better utilize the space at a fairly low cost to repurpose the two areas to meeting areas for the golf associations and members . 25-6

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Dunedin City Commission Dunedin Golf Club Rain & Starter Shelters - New - Golf Operations - $40,000 This is repair and maintenance and for the starter shelter an 8'x 1O' air-conditioned shelter in line with what other courses have. Harbormaster Ferguson presented: Marina Bulkhead Replacement and Repair - New - Marina - $3,240,000 The $3,900,000 shown in the Six Year will be adjusted according to the bids that will be received . BREAK 10:20 A.M. - approx. 10:35 A.M. Public Works Public Works Director Bartlett presented : Evaluation and Retrofit of Fire Buildings for Hurricane Hardening - New - General - $75,000 Evaluation to determine the work to improve the category of storm those would be safe to stay in. Decisions and costs for improvements to be determined The following three items damaged during the hurricane are not eligible for FEMA reimbursement due to age and condition: Fence Replacement for Public Services Complex - New - Facilities Maintenance - $30,000 Fence Replacement for Public Services Complex - New - General - $30,000 Fence Replacement for Public Services Complex - New - Stormwater - $30,000 Six Year Planning Period: $33,264 - BPI: Next 5 Items: This was previously approved and ongoing, not a new initiative, but a budget transfer approved. Actually is now in FY2025. Public Works Improvement of Operations - New - Facilities Maintenance Public Works Improvement of Operations - New - Fleet Public Works Improvement of Operations - New - General Public Works Improvement of Operations - New - Solid Waste Public Works Improvement of Operations - New - Stormwater Public Works Storage Building - New- General - FY27 $300,000 This is a recommendation for the downtown area to contain the barriers and other equipment included for hurricane protection. Public Works Storage Building - New- Stormwater- FY27 $300,000 Replacement of the Fleet Services Building - New - Penny- FY30 $250,000 Design for awareness of the need for replacement of the building. Six Year Planning Period: BPI - Next 5 Items: Software recommendations and implementation. The City Attorney has found the City can piggyback on an agreement. Coming before the Commission on August 7, 2025, for $110,000 due to efficiency changes. Work Planning and Management Software - New - Facilities Maintenance Work Planning and Management Software - New - Fleet - $50,000 25-7

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Dunedin City Commission Work Planning and Management Software - New - General - $50,000 Work Planning and Management Software - New - Solid Waste - $50,000 Work Planning and Management Software - New - Stormwater- $50,000 Commission questions, comments, and concerns were addressed to include : Ms . Bartlett provided details regarding the software. Regarding Evaluation and Retrofit of Fire Buildings for Hurricane Hardening, this is evaluation; there were requests for changes and improvements, and the determination was to first have the evaluation . Utilities & Engineering Mayor Freaney brought forward the Weybridge bridge issue and discussion ensued regarding the status and City Engineer Watkins provided the information on the bridge including the inspection resulting in the three cost estimates which he detailed. City Manager Bramley advised the project analysis and design has been included for FY27 for a General Fund expenditure and it will be brought back to the City Commission for a decision. Discussion ensued regarding the concern for providing information to the residents on the plan; Mayor Freaney expressed concern for waiting 2 years to provide that information. City Manager Bramley noted for the record the City will not be asking residents to give up land; it would be creating an easement. Utilities Director/City Engineer Watkins presented: Chlorine Contact Chamber Cover - New Water/ Wastewater - FY 27 $50,000 FY28 $450,000 Initially part of a rehab last fiscal year ; however, was removed due to bids higher than the budget. Adding the cover will reduce the amount of chlorine used throughout the facility and reduces the algae build up . Forcemain #31 Replacement & Extension New Water/ Wastewater - FY27 $50,000 FY28 $1,250,000 In the Greenbriar area, this is a forcemain problem area; this will extend the forcemain to the next deeper manhole helping to reduce monitoring and maintenance. Michigan/Harvard Gravity Main - New Water/ Wastewater- FY26 $100,000 FY27 $600,000 FY26 funding is for an evaluation by a consultant for this area that has significant issues. WWTP Admin Hardening - Reinforcement of Walls - New Water / Wastewater - FY27 $1,175,418 This project is to reinforce the walls of the second floor for safety during storm events. Staff are applying for a Hazard Mitigation Grant (HMG). WWTP Emergency Generator Building Rehabilitation - New Water/ Wastewater- $1,460,000 Currently the radiator and some fans are on the roof, this causes some leaks . The proposed design is to move that equipment off the roof to inside and rehab and weatherproof the roof. Finance Director Tyler presented: Projects Removed from Business Plan Implemented / Ongoing These are projects suggested to come out of the Business Plan because those are ongoing operations . 25-8

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 • Bike Ped Action Plan • Budget & Planning Cloud Based Software for Public Sector • Downtown Looper Inactive/ Cancelled Dunedin City Commission These are projects City staff has recommended to be inactive or proposed to be cancelled. • Curlew Road Water Main Replacement • Decorative Furniture • Lofty Pines Septic to Sewer Project Mr. Watkins and Deputy City Manager Quintas reviewed the details of this project that services unincorporated residents and noted that Phase 1 was constructed and funded by a $500,000 grant. The City has to wait for those residents to annex into the City. Without additional funding or additional customers, it is not fiscally responsible to invest in the second phase. • Parking Sensors • Septic Tank Abatement Incentives • Stirling Skate Park Street Course • Stirling Park Driving Range Lights • Water Plant Secondary Electric Feeder Commission questions, comments, and concerns were addressed to include: Mr . Watkins explained in Utilities there are various reasons and combinations of reasons for removing a project from the Business Plan. In response to the concerns regarding in the past the septic to sewer was a major issue in the City, Deputy City Manager Quintas explained working with the County and the Department of Environmental Protection staff will continue to try to pursue that initiative ; however, there has to be some funding source other than City of Dunedin rate payers as there is no guarantee residents will annex and connect to the sewer system. City Manager Bramley in response to the concern of there being no incentive to look for funding if a project is removed from the Business Plan explained City staff is always looking for grants and funding resources which will be done even if a project is not in the Business Plan; if funding becomes available, the project is fiscally responsible and approved by the City Commission staff would move forward . Also, she thought leaving projects in the plan year to year with no activity it devalues the Business Plan; it does not mean putting a project on the shelf, but that the entire project is something that is not being actively pursued ; if the money becomes available then staff will work on it. She noted if it is the consensus of the Commission to leave a project in the Business Plan that is no problem. Concern was expressed regarding the Downtown Looper which was thought to be currently a prototype and subject to finding funds to support the initiative which currently is coming out of the General Fund and that is not the right place for the funding. Consensus Direction Leave the Lofty Pines Sewer to Septic and the Downtown Looper in the Business Plan . 1.d. City Commission Discussion on Initiatives & CIP Projects Vice Mayor Gow suggested a position related to Transportation to reach out to the area community in terms of solutions and ideas . 25-9

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Dunedin City Commission Commissioner Sandbergen suggested an entry sign to Dunedin or C.R.1 and Alternate 19 similar to those downtown. Commissioner Walker suggested regarding the Dunedin Boat Club and making the City a sailing center of excellence again and formalizing the public/private partnership . Commissioner Dugard noted the seniors of the City still have issues they want the City to address and he thinks social isolation is part of that and suggested an outreach program for seniors to enable them to connect. The median age in Dunedin is 57 years. Commissioner Dugard also suggested research of going beyond infrastructure in terms of addressing issues with storms and protection and making citizens feel everything possible has been done . Mayor Freaney noted the importance of maintenance of the City facilities and public works and utilities. She suggested for the signage it would be good to be able to include the Blue Jays along with the Scottish heritage. Mayor Freaney suggested review of the connectivity sidewalk with Mease Life to the downtown. Mayor Freaney noted previously that the City had an overall Volunteer Coordinator and a well- defined system that was lost during the downturn of 2009. She suggested research as to how that could be done now. City Manager Comments City Manager Bramley noted: The meeting with the Boat Club is on the 31st and not the 29th . She would like to work with Commissioner Dugard on what would make residents feel safe. 1.e. Storm-Related Expenses & Reimbursements Estimated City Match for Storm Damages - Detail Table - Page 18 Finance Director Tyler noted the City has had a significant amount of storm related expenses during 2025. Those are included in the FY25 and FY26 budgets. He referenced the table and advised the City has received $2.3 Million of the FEMA reimbursement. The estimate is the City will receive the remainder of the FEMA money for the storm damage by December of this year; it is in the process and nearly obligated. The estimated for the remainder is 2 years; some might go longer. Estimated FEMA 75.0% State 12.5% Citywide - $19,629,821 $16,234,302 $1,697,759 City Match 12.5.% $1,697,759 The storm damage has added some complexity to the budget this year and these numbers might change some in the next few months. This is the best information City staff had toward the end of June. Commission questions, comments, and concerns were addressed to include: The Marina Bulkhead Replacement & Repair number will be adjusted according to the bid discussed last night moving forward in the tentative budget which will also reduce the City's match. Concern expressed for being very specific regarding the finances in terms of communication due to the complexity of what the City is dealing with for the next couple of years. The State funding will follow FEMA. FEMA will approve a project, and the State will normally pay its share at the same time FEMA pays its 75%. 25-10

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Dunedin City Commission Finance Director Tyler explained in the meantime the City will need to obtain a line of credit to finance some of the projects and estimated $14 -$15 Million to draw down on and pay back with FEMA reimbursements. The debt service estimate would go in that calculation that is roughly $800,000 per year. Adding that into the City debt along with the Aquatic Complex and the Parking Garage assuming those will move forward in the near future the City would be just under the 20% threshold at 19% to 19.5%. Currently the debt is at approximately $98 Million; about $31 Million is the Blue Jays that is paid by other peoples' money. Mayor Freaney reiterated the need for communication due to misunderstanding about what is comprising the debt for the Commission and residents to understand. City Manager Bramley noted direction to provide a sheet with the debt and source of the debt and payers. She suggested direction also to clearly show essential utilities. General Fund Storm-Related Activity- Detail Table - Page 19 The table shows storm activity 2025 - 2029 time frame. Most of the activity is in FY25 and FY26. Key items include: Net (Revenue)/Expenditure - FY25 - $2,611,726: This is a credit, meaning for that year in FY25 the Revenues are more than the Expenditures from the storm. Part of that is receiving $5 Million from the Fleet Fund to the General Fund as a loan planned to be paid back next year. There is much activity, especially for the next 3 years that will be flowing through that is storm related to either money coming in, projects being paid for or FEMA payments. In 2025, in the Long Range Plan there will be more detail on that 2025 number and how it affects the FY25 Fund Balance. Transfer Out - Repayment of lnterfund Loan - FY26 - $5 Million: The reasoning is staff think it is better to have financial flexibility so that if there is a future storm there is that funding to use again if needed. If it is kept obligated and there is a future storm then the City will be forced to obtain a line of credit sooner rather than later, a position City staff does not want to be in. Fishing Pier & Weaver Park Pier are in the General Fund - $2.440 Million Finance Director Tyler advised: General Fund estimated line of credit is approximately $4.3 Million which will continue to be evaluated in the months ahead. Marina Fund estimated line of credit is approximately $10 Million which also will be evaluated in the months ahead. An example is $1.5 Million appropriation received from the State for the Marina meaning that will reduce the FEMA obligation, that will help the line of credit because that amount will not be needed . There is not as much activity in 2028 and 2029. Net Expense - $917,084 is the activity for the 5-year time frame. Mr . Tyler noted taking into consideration in 2025 the Pier project was budgeted in the General Fund at approximately $1.6 Million; that project has been taken out and placed in the storm estimates. Taking the $917 Thousand and backing out the $1.6 Million already budgeted, with these estimates assuming the FEMA and State pay the City back as expected, the General Fund is a little better off than before the storm. That includes some interest on the line of credit. FEMA will pay the interest for the Pier replacement, 25-11

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Dunedin City Commission but the interest on anything not permanent the City has to pay; that is being factored into budget estimates. Commission questions, comments, and concerns were addressed to include: Discussion ensued regarding the details related to the information on this table including the numbers in the out years. It was clarified , through all the storms if assumptions for repayment are correct the cost to the City is $917 ,084 in the General Fund ; Marina Fund will be additional. 1.f. Revenue, Expenditures & Projections - All Funds Baseline Information Ad Valorem Revenue - Page 22 As of May 30, 2025, Pinellas County Estimate Total Taxable Property Value Increase over Prior Year City of Dunedin : 4.69% As of July 1, 2025 - 5.21 % The Tentative Budget Revenue Increase adjusted by approximately $74,000 in FY26 Dunedin TIF (Tax Increment Financing District) (CRA): 4.83% Certified Value as of July 1, 2025 : 6.33% The Tentative CRA Budget Revenue will increase by approximately $34,000 in FY26 Finance Director Tyler noted the City began with about 2% growth , not as much as the past few years; however, it is good to at least see over 5% in the General Fund. Pinellas County: 3.77% The FY 2026 Proposed Budget is based on a 4.1345 millage rate. The City has held the millage rate the same since FY2016. Millage Rate Effect on Ad Valorem Tax Revenue - Graph - Page 23 Graph shows the revenue and millage rate over the past 12-year time frame . There has been steady growth, a little less with this past year. FY 2026 Revenues General Fund - Other Taxes -4.6% Less than the current year budget Electric Services Tax/Duke Energy are trending lower in FY25 than budget; therefore, FY26 is adjusted and will continue to be monitored. Cable/Satellite/Television/Video Streaming- Communications Tax Penny Fund - Other Taxes 2.0% over the FY25 budget that is trending slightly higher County Gas Tax- Other Taxes -2.5% less compared to FY25 Going down the last few years . Enterprise Fund Utility Rate Increases: Solid Waste +0% In the process of a rate study. Water/Wastewater +15% Rate increase in FY26 - Ordinance 25-04 25-12

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Stormwater +29.9% Dunedin City Commission Consistent with the Stormwater Rate Study approved July 11, 2024 FY 2026 Expenditures Salary and Wages: • 3.5% merit increase for all eligible staff with the exception of Fire Union employees whose increases are based on the Fire Union contract • No changes to range minimums & maximums Benefits: • 11.0% increase in health costs over FY25 budget This number is still in the process of fine tuning; detail information is to be provided at the August 6, 2025, meeting . Operating - Details provided for various funds - Pages 26 - 27: In general, costs of controllable operating expenditures* are assumed at a 3% increase in all funds except: details provided for various funds LUNCH - approx. 12:30 P.M. -1 :45 P.M. LONG-RANGE FUND PROJECTIONS Finance Director Tyler presented: The General Fund Available Fund Balance is above the target at 15.7% in FY2026 . In future years there is a shortfall to be discussed moving into the future years. FY26 is balanced. GENERAL FUND General Fund Revenue & Expenditure Highlights - Table - Page 29 FY 2025 Adopted - FY 2026 Proposed - $ Change - % Change Revenues: Property Tax% Change will be adjusted to 5.21% in the Tentative Budget Licenses, Permits, Fees increase due to slight increase in the Franchise Revenue and adjustment to Gas Tax, Parking Bank Charges for Services increase due primarily to increased reimbursement from the County for Fire/EMS cost in FY2026 Miscellaneous decrease due to FY25 Debt Proceeds for a lease of a Fire Truck that is not in FY2026 Expenditures: Personnel increase due to Merit Increase of 3.5% non-union and bargaining agreement for Fire and increases to Wages and Benefits Operating small variance - there is non-recurring operating and ongoing operating. Decrease due to Community Center Roof Project in FY25 and not in FY26 . Offsetting increase for Fleet Replacement in FY26 for Fire and build up of funds for future Fleet; Sheriffs cost increase. Capital increase due primarily to including the Highlander Aquatic Complex not in FY25 and Fishing Pier 25-13

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Dunedin City Commission Debt Service increased due to the Fire Truck and estimated line of credit anticipated for November 2025 Transfers Out increased due to proposal to pay back the $5 Million loan from Fleet Fund that was used for storm damage. The recommendation is to pay back as soon as the remainder of the debris removal payments from FEMA anticipated in December 2025. General Fund Assumptions Revenue - Detail - Page 30 Estimates for future years FY27 - FY31 in the long range plan . General Fund Assumptions Expenditures - Detail - Page 31 Estimates for future years FY27 - FY31 in the long range plan. Changes to Balance the FY 26 General Fund Budget - Detail - Page 32 After meeting with the City Manager and all Departments the budget process started with a $3 Million shortfall in 2026. This slide shows some of the highlights of items moved or taken out to get to this point. Most are moved out. The total reduction is approximately $3.3 Million reduced in 2026 to get to the proposed budget numbers . General Fund Long Range Plan - Detail Table- Page - 33 FY 2026 Proposed Budget Book : Pages 494-499 ENDING UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE-15.7% The General Fund is shown first without a budget shortfall being addressed and then with the shortfall addressed. The Ending Fund Balance first in the out years is shown under the target of 15% due to Expenses being more than budget in those years. This has been similar in past years. Part of the balance in FY26 includes a Carryover in the 2025 estimate . The FY25 34% is due to FEMA being included; without the FEMA it would be approximately 26% Reserve, still good . City Manager Bramley clarified the Commission is adopting only the FY26 Budget; not the out years. They are not adopting a deficit budget. Typically, the out-year numbers get better; however, that is not certain. Finance Director Tyler reiterated the FY26 budget is what will be adopted in September, a one-year budget and FY27 - FY3:1 is just a forecast for information and being transparent, a planning tool. Finance Director Tyler addressed the FY2025 adopted budget where there was a shortfall estimated over the 5-year period of $2 .1 Million and now it is at $5.8Million and provided a detailed explanation. Finance Director Tyler reviewed various line items and provided details and discussed various factors impacting the budget including increases in labor, insurance and other pressures on internal service funds that flow through to the General Fund. With all this his thought is the need to look at building a plan to increase revenues including user fees and cost of services and over the next 2-to-3-year time frame considers factoring in some kind of millage rate increase . He thought the City is sustainable without a millage increase and while looking at being more efficient and reducing costs . A millage rate increase could be over two years , not one year . He recommends that two-prong approach. Going from 4.1 to 5.1 millage would be approximately $4.7Million more in revenue, that is not his recommendation, just the mathematical calculation. 25-14

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Dunedin City Commission Commission questions, comments, and concerns were addressed to include: FEMA reimbursements are factored into the future years, FY27 and FY28. The Operating Expense $7 Million increase is Storm Damage cost. Finance Director Tyler acknowledged Revenue in FY23 and FY24 there was good growth with assessed value increases of just over 10% and other revenue streams did well those two years. In FY25 the assessed value was 10%; however, in other areas it is flat or slightly under projection and that happens. In FY26 a little ad valorem growth is seen; however, other revenue streams have slight increases, some are flat and some are a little under last year. Revenues are growing in FY26 much less than Expenditures, dramatically. Concern was expressed and discussion ensued regarding the increased rates for citizens including increased property taxes because of increased value and their feelings about an increase in ad valorem. Finance Director Tyler discussed the assessed values, real estate and noted that 10% growth is not the norm, but 5% - 7% is more normal. Comment was made regarding going smaller in terms of the Fire Department apparatus for a reduction in costs. City Manager Bramley provided a detailed explanation regarding structural deficit noting the forecast estimates in the out years which invariably will change and the need for a long term plan which addresses that structural deficit directly with as little impact on the public as possible. Traditionally, the numbers get better approaching each year. This year is a balanced budget and when that is adopted City staff will begin on next year and within that time frame put together that plan. Finance Director Tyler emphasized the budget is balanced right now at 15.7% Reserve, if it goes below 15% then adjustments have to be made to rebalance that could involve many various adjustments including moving lower priority projects to another year. The $8 Million shown would be $5 Million if the storm activity was not in FY26. Finance Director Tyler responded that the numbers are a little less conservative than normal; he will be looking at it again in a month for changes in the pattern. It is not overly conservative at this point. There are new projects in Capital which were not in FY25 increasing Expenditures; an example is the Weybridge bridge. Also, some projects might wait for the Penny-for-Pinellas V to be adopted. STADIUM FUND Stadium Fund Revenue & Expenditure Highlights Table - Page 34 FY 2025 Adopted - FY 2026 Proposed - $ Change - % Change Revenue : Miscellaneous - decrease in estimated interest earnings Transfers In - increase for insurance Expenditures: Operations -- Stadium Fund Assumptions - Page 35 Revenue: Transfers In: • FY26: $550,000 from General Fund for operations 25-15

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Dunedin City Commission • FY27-31: $650,000 per year from General Fund for operations Expenditures : • Operating : • FY27-31 : +3.0% Stadium Fund Overview- Detail Table - Page 36 FY 2026 Proposed Budget Book : Pages 500-501 Finance Director Tyler pointed out the Reserve line is per the agreement with the Blue Jays for set aside for Capital needs in the Stadium. IMPACT FEE FUNDS COMBINED Revenue & Expenditure Highlights - Table - Page 37 FY 2025 Adopted - FY 2026 Proposed - $ Change - % Change Revenue : Miscellaneous - Projected interest earnings increase Expenditures: Operations -- Beltrees ADA Improvement Project Capital - Decreased due to the Douglas Project and the Pedestrian Safety Crosswalk. Increase in the Law Enforcement Public Safety Mitigation Project. Impact Fee Fund Assumptions - Page 38 Revenue: • Licenses, Permits, Fees: • Transfers In : • From CRA for Parkland Impact Fee Contributions • Reflects estimates for known development projects Impact Fee Funds Combined Overview - Detail Table - Page 39 FY 2026 Proposed Budget Book: Pages 502-503 Finance Director Tyler provided the details for the following funds : These are collected and should be spent in a reasonable time frame. Multimodal Impact Fee Fund Overview- Detail Table - Page 40 Parkland Impact Fee Fund Overview- Detail Table - Page 41 Fire Impact Fee Fund Overview- Detail Table - Page 42 law Enforcement Impact Fee Fund Overview- Detail Table- Page 43 PUBLIC ART FUND Revenue & Expenditure Highlights - Detail Table - Page 44 FY 2025 Adopted - FY 2026 Proposed - $ Change - % Change Revenue: Transfers In - Decrease due to a development paying approximately $37 ,000 ; therefore the recommendation is not to provide any funds . Expenditures: Operating - Slight decrease from last year to make sure the fund has a positive balance . 25-16

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Public Art Fund Assumptions - Page 45 Revenue: • License, Permits, Fees: • Reflects estimates for known development projects Expenditures: • Transfers Out: Dunedin City Commission • FY26: To repay FY23 Building Fund interfund loan $8,600 per year Public Art Fund Overview - Detail Table - Page 46 FY 2026 Proposed Budget Book: Pages 504-505 The fund will continue to be monitored in case there are no projects paying into this fund next year; consideration might have to be given to how it is funded next year. BUILDING FUND Revenue & Expenditure Highlights - Detail Table - Page 47 FY 2025 Adopted - FY 2026 Proposed - $ Change - % Change Revenue: Miscellaneous - Decrease due to estimated interest earnings Expenditures: Personnel - Increase due to the Merit and Health costs Operating -- Increase due to additional training for new software Building Fund Assumptions - Page 48 Revenue: • License, Permits, Fees: • FY27: +3% • FY28: +22.3% • FY29-31: +3% • Miscellaneous: • FY26-31: +1% • Transfers In: • FY25-26: Payment from Public Art Fund for interfund loan $8,600 per year Expenditures: • Salaries: • FY27-31: +3.5% • Benefits: • FY27-31: +6% • Operating: • FY27-31: +2% Building Fund Overview - Detail Table - Page 49 FY 2026 Proposed Budget Book: Pages 506-507 FY26 Ending Available Fund Balance of $1.8 Million Fees were reduced in FY21 due to State regulations; continue to closely monitor Building Permits continue to come in slightly higher every year 25-17

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 COUNTY TAX FUND Revenue & Expenditure Highlights - Detail Table - Page 50 FY 2025 Adopted - FY 2026 Proposed - $ Change - % Change Revenue: other Taxes - Decrease in Gas Tax revenues Expenditures : Dunedin City Commission Operating - Increase in licensing fees ; BPI switched to operational in FY26 The Sidewalk & Maintenance Program as funding is not available ; funding for future years being reduced Capital - Decrease due to lower gas revenues collected and moving $50,000 to Payment Management Project to the Penny Fund County Gas Tax Fund Assumptions - Page 51 Revenue: • other Revenue : • FY26: -2 .52% • FY27: +0.2% • FY28: +0 .2% • FY29 : +0 .2% • FY30: +0 .2% • FY31 : +0.2% • Miscellaneous: • FY27-31 : +1% Expenditures : • Operating : • FY27-31 : +3% County Gas Tax Fund Overview- Detail Table - Page 52 FY 2026 Proposed Budget Book: Pages 508-509 FY26 Ending Fund Balance Estimate - $134,000 PENNY FUND Revenue & Expenditure Highlights - Detail Table - Page 53 FY 2025 Adopted - FY 2026 Proposed - $ Change - % Change Revenue : Other Taxes - Increase 2% Miscellaneous - Decrease due to donations for the Highlander Pool of $500,000 in FY25 and $250,000 in FY26; a $1 Million donation over 3 years Debt Proceeds - Increase due to moving financing for the Highlander Aquatic Complex to the FY26 budget Expenditures: Capital - Increase due to two projects , Highlander Aquatic Complex in FY26 and re- budgeted and decrease in the Gladys Douglas Preserve project budgeted in FY25, but not in FY26 25-18

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Penny Fund Assumptions - Page 54 Penny Tax Revenue: FY26: +2.0% FY27: +2.9% FY28: +3.0% FY29: +3.0% FY30 : +1.5% FY31: 0% Dunedin City Commission This is consistent with last year waiting for the County information on their assumptions. Penny IV expires December 31, 2029 Misc. Revenue: Highlander Aquatic Complex Donation ($1 M total) - FY26 $250k Transfers In: FY26-30 from Water/WW for share of New City Hall debt service payments $468,600 per year Penny Fund Overview - Detail Table - Page 55 FY 2026 Proposed Budget Book: Pages 510-511 FY26 Ending Available Fund Balance - $2,360,402 Finance Director Tyler reviewed details within this fund . ARPA FUND Revenue & Expenditure Highlights - Detail Table - Page 56 FY 2025 Adopted - FY 2026 Proposed - $ Change - % Change Revenue: Miscellaneous - Decreased due to spending the funds and the interest earnings are expected to decrease Expenditures: Operating - Decreased due to the Boat Club Sailing Center not budgeted in FY26 Capital - Decreased due to Downtown Pavers and Parking Sensors projects budgeted in FY25, but not in FY26 ARPA Fund Assumptions- Page 57 Revenue: • Intergovernmental : • The estimated federal grant revenue under the American Plan Act for the City of Dunedin is approximately $18.3 million in total. • $4,710,905 of the $18.3 million has been accounted for in the General Fund for revenue recovery for governmental services. • $3,040,025 of the $18.3 million has been accounted for in the Golf Operations Enterprise Fund for the ARPA funds allocated to the Golf Course Restoration Project. ARPA Fund Overview- Detail Table - Page 58 FY 2026 Proposed Budget Book: Pages 512-513 25-19

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Dunedin City Commission FY26 Ending Fund Balance - $521,376 remains throughout the out years; this balance is not really part of the grant; the interest earnings are for whatever the City determines . There is no timeline or direction for the interest. CRA FUND Revenue & Expenditure Highlights - Detail Table - Page 59 FY 2025 Adopted - FY 2026 Proposed - $ Change - % Change Revenue : Property Taxes - Decrease due to the County contribution in FY26 was reduced to the City 's millage rate ; in prior years it was based on their higher millage rate Debt Proceeds - Increased due to re-budget of the Parking Garage Project Expenditures : Personnel - Increased due to wage increase and benefits Capital - Decreased due to offsetting increase and decreases in several projects Transfers Out - Decreased due to no transfer to the General Fund for Special Events and Downtown Park Maintenance, no longer an allowable CRA expense and it is not moving to the General Fund moving forward. Also, a reduction in LOO contributions to the Impact Fee, FY26 will be the last transfer. CRA Fund Assumptions Revenue - Page 60 Property Tax Values: FY26: +4 .83% FY27: +4 .0% FY28 : +4 .0% & $12 .5M new construction FY29 : +4 .0% & $25M new construction FY30 : +4 .0% & $12 .5M new construction FY31 : +3 .0% *Starting in FY 2026 the County will base its contribution off the City's millage rate of 4.1345. The County's rate is 4.5947 in FY 2025. CRA Fund Assumptions Expenditures - Page 61 Salaries: FY27-31: +3.5% Benefits : FY27-31: +6.0% Operating : FY27-31 : +2 .0% CRA Fund Overview- Detail Table - Page 62 FY 2026 Proposed Budget Book: Pages 514-515 Debt Proceeds - $9,160,000 - Parking Garage is for the most part being financed because of cash flow, the current plan FY26 Ending Available Fund Balance - $431,016 SOLID WASTE FUND Revenue & Expenditure Highlights - Detail Table - Page 63 FY 2025 Adopted - FY 2026 Proposed - $ Change - % Change 25-20

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Revenue: Dunedin City Commission Charge for Services - Slight decrease; no rate change scheduled here until the rate study is complete Miscellaneous - Decrease due to estimated decrease in interest earnings Debt Proceeds - Decrease due to reduction in debt proceeds for the need for Solid Waste Vehicles Expenditures: Personnel - Increase due to Merit and Health Benefits Operating - Increase due mainly to the Work Management Software in FY26 and not in FY25 and Disposal Fees Capital - Decreased due to the proceeds, purchase of three vehicles last year and only one in FY26 Solid Waste Fund Assumptions - Page 64 Revenue: • Charges for Services: • FY26-31 : +0% • Benefits: • FY26-31: +6% • Operating: • FY26-31: +2% Solid Waste Fund Overview - Detail Table - Page 65 FY 2026 Proposed Budget Book: Pages 516-517 FY26 Ending Available Net Position - $5,612 Part of this is due to no rate increase in FY26 The Rate Study will set the rates for future Operating and Capital needs. The fund will need to be monitored closely this year. The study is also looking at efficiencies, reducing fleet vehicles and enclaves program. It is expected to have half a year with a rate increase Commission questions, comments, and concerns were addressed to include : Significant discussion ensued regarding the efficiencies mentioned, the unincorporated enclaves and the rate study timing and effects. WATER/WASTEWATER FUND Revenue & Expenditure Highlights - Detail Table - Page 66 FY 2025 Adopted - FY 2026 Proposed - $ Change - % Change Revenue : Licenses, Permits, Fees - Decreased with an estimated reduction in Water/Sewer Impact Fees Intergovernmental - Decreased due to in budgeted revenue for FEMA Hazard Mitigation Grants Charge for Services - Increased due to unit charge revenues for the rate increase of 15% - in accordance with Ordinance 25-04 25-21

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Dunedin City Commission Debt Proceeds - Increased due to an SRF loan for Wastewater Electrical Upgrade Project - $5 Million and Bank loan projected in 2026 - $15 Million consistent with the rate analysis anticipation for the Wastewater Project Expenditures : Personnel - Decreased slightly due to position reclassification ; reduction in the Career Ladder program Operating - Increased due to mainly Administration Fee, Reclaimed Water Distribution; offset by the decrease in the Wastewater hardening and renovation projects Capital - Increase due primarily to increase in the Wastewater Treatment projects and projects budgeted in FY25 and not in FY26 Other - Increase due to Curlew FOOT projects Water/Wastewater Fund Assumptions - Page 67 Revenue: • Charges for Services: • FY26-28: +15% • FY29-31 : +3% Expenditures: • Salaries: • FY27-31: +3.5% • Benefits: • FY27-31: +6% • Operating : • FY27-31 : +2% • Transfers Out: • FY26-30 to Penny Fund for share of New City Hall debt service payments $468,600 per year. Water/Wastewater Fund Overview- Detail Table - Page 68 FY 2026 Proposed Budget Book: Pages 518-521 FY26 Ending Available Net Position - $12,826,287 -57.4%/Goal is 25% Finance Director Tyler noted in this 5-year plan there is a placeholder for another $15 Million loan in 2029 assuming all these projects are done, debt financing will not be issued until needed. That is projected to be a bank loan at this time for 19 ½ years. STORMWATER FUND Revenue & Expenditure Highlights - Detail Table - Page FY 2025 Adopted - FY 2026 Proposed - $ Change - % Change Revenue : Intergovernmental - Increase due to USDA Emergency Watershed Protection Grant for Gabions and Ditch Maintenance Charge for Services - Increase due to rate change discussed Expenditures : Personnel - Increase due to Merit and Health Benefits and reclassifications of positions and a position filled at a higher rate than budgeted Operating - Increase due mainly to Repair & Maintenance for Gabion project offset by the USDA EWP grant 25-22

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Dunedin City Commission Capital - Increase due to Ditch Maintenance offset by project budgeted in FY25 not in FY26 Stormwater Fund Assumptions - Page 70 Revenue: • Charges for Services : • FY26: +29.9% • FY27 : +19.2% • FY28-31: +0% Expenditures : • Salaries: • FY27 -31 : +3.5% • Benefits: • FY27-31 : +6% • Operating : • FY27-31 : +2% Stormwater Fund Overview - Detail Table - Page 71 FY 2026 Proposed Budget Book: Pages 522-525 FY26 Ending Available Net Position - $316 ,937 / -2.3% Finance Director Tyler explained it will take time to build this fund with the new rates established. To bring all projects forward over the next 3 years a need for approximately a $2 Million Stormwater loan is anticipated for FY27 on the Debt Proceeds line item. MARINA FUND Revenue & Expenditure Highlights - Detail Table - Page 72 FY 2025 Adopted - FY 2026 Proposed - $ Change - % Change Revenue: Charge for Services - Decrease due to Boat Ramp revenue reduction FY26 with the assumption of being closed for the year; however, that will be revised in consideration of recent information related to a plan to move the Boat Ramp revenue and expenditures to the General Fund. General Fund would receive the revenue and the staffing time to offset. Details of opening to be determined. Miscellaneous - Decreased due to Slip Renters and Dunedin Fish Company lease reduction; includes 10% increase for Slip Renters FY26 with the assumption to increase rates October 1, 2025. Possibly a conservative number that possibly will change for the Tentative Budget. Debt Proceeds - Increased due primarily to the line of credit proceeds to be issued as discussed for the FEMA grants; draw downs for the credit only as needed. Expenditures : Personnel- Operating - Decreased due primarily to Repairs & Maintenance and small reduction in operating supplies Capital - Increase due to the Bulk Head - Dock A & B Design ; some costs will be moved from FY26 back to FY25 as the item was approved last night. Marina Fund Assumptions - Page 73 Revenue: 25-23

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 • Charges for Services: • FY27-31 : 0% • Miscellaneous : • FY26: 10% • FY27-31: 7% • Boat Slip Rentals • Transient Boat Slip Rentals • Interest Revenue • Dunedin Fish Co. Lease Expenditures: • Salaries: • FY27-31: +3 .5% • Benefits : • FY27-31 : +6% • Operating : • FY27-31: +2% Marina Fund Overview- Detail Table - Page 74 FY 2026 Proposed Budget Book: Pages 526-527 FY26 Ending Available Net Position -$577 ,687 / 114 .1% Dunedin City Commission Finance Director Tyler noted the Business Interruption Insurance received in the amount of $500,000 ; the maximum per occurrence . $250,000 has been included in the Marina Fund as Revenue to replenish the Marina Fund for storm damage. Commission questions, comments, and concerns were addressed to include: The Docks A & B FY26 Expenditure is for Design only . The Boat Ramp is used by Slip Renters to some extent; however, before being closed down was used by the general public; therefore, it makes more sense to be put in the General Fund; which is actually fairly neutral and it seemed to be the right place . The Marina Advisory has discussed about restricting to residents only which even in that case would still be a General Fund item . The extent of the involvement of the Marina Personnel would be considered in the General Fund from the Marina Fund. The $2 .5 Million bank loan payments are being paid by the Marina Fund . GOLF OPERATIONS FUND Revenue & Expenditure Highlights - Detail Table - Page 75 FY 2025 Adopted - FY 2026 Proposed - $ Change - % Change Revenue : Charge for Services - Increase due to increase in member dues, cart fees, public greens fees; offset by a decrease in Pro Shop merchandise Miscellaneous - Decrease due to estimate interest income reduction Expenditures: Personnel - Decreased due to previous part time staffing and VOD 's; there were some duplications in the FY25 budget not in FY26 Capital - Increase due to locker room remodel Design and rain shelters discussed previously 25-24

Budget Workshop Minutes July 18, 2025 Golf Fund Assumptions - Page 76 Revenue: • Charges for Services: • FY27: 6.2% • FY28-31 : 2% Dunedin City Commission Golf Revenue increase in FY27 is due to result of grandfathered rates coming to an end for members effective January 2027; all members will retain the full rates at that time. Those members have had discount rates since opened. Expenditures : • Salaries: • FY27-31: +3.5% • Benefits: • FY27-31: +6% • Operating: • FY27-31: +2% Golf Fund Overview - Detail Table - Page 77 FY 2026 Proposed Budget Book: Pages 528-529 FY Ending Available Net Posit ion - $323,631 / 10.0% /Goal is 25% Finance Director Tyler noted the Business Interruption Insurance received in the amount of $500,000; the maximum per occurrence . $250,000 has been included in the Golf Operations Fund as Revenue to replenish the Golf Operations Fund for storm damage. Commission questions, comments, and concerns were addressed to include: Golf Operations Kline advised there are no restaurant proceeds currently; they received a rent abatement for the money they spent on renovations to the clubhouse. City Manager Bramley clarified the renovations made to the clubhouse belong to the City of Dunedin; there will be rent in the future. INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS FLEET FUND Revenue & Expenditure Highlights - Detail Table - Page 78 FY 2025 Adopted - FY 2026 Proposed - $ Change - % Change Revenue: Charge for Services - Increase due to ISF income for Fleet Replacements; Overhead Maintenance and a decrease in estimates for Fue

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1 NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING BUDGET WORKSHOP City Hall, 737 Louden Ave JULY 18, 2023 9:00 AM AGENDA AGENDA CALL TO ORDER 1. BUSINESS 1.a. FY 2024 Budget Workshop #2 ; FY 2024 Proposed Operating & Capital Budget Topic for Discussion EXHIBIT: A. Background Budget Workshop.pdf EXHIBIT: B. FY 2024 - FY2029 CIP BPI by Fund.pdf EXHIBIT: C. FY 2024 PROPOSED BUDGET .pdf EXHIBIT: D. FY 2024 Budget Presentation 1.b. City Manager Opening Remarks Topic for Discussion 1.c. Follow-up: FY 2024 Budget Workshop #1 Topic for Discussion EXHIBIT: A. Follow Up Memo 6-1-23 Workshop 071323.pdf 1.d. Position Request for FY 2024 Budget Topic for Discussion EXHIBIT: A. FY 2024 Positions.pdf 1.e. Revenue, Expenditures and Projections- All Funds Topic for Discussion 1 ) Base Line Assumptions

2 2) Long Range Fund Projections • General Fund • Stadium Fund • Impact Fee Fund • Public Art Fund • Building Fund • County Gas Tax Fund • Penny Fund • ARPA Fund • CRA Fund • Solid Waste Fund • Water/Wastewater Fund • Stormwater Fund • Marina Fund • Golf Operations Fund • Fleet Fund • Facilities Maintenance Fund • Risk Safety Fund • Health Benefits Fund • IT Services Fund 1.f. City Commission Direction Topic for Discussion ADJOURN MEETING Disability Provisions: It is the policy of the City of Dunedin not to discriminate against disabled persons in employment or the provisions of services. If you have a disability that requires accommodation, please notify the ADA Coordinator 48 hours prior to the scheduled meeting at (727) 298-3043. COPIES OF THIS AND ALL COMMISSION AGENDAS ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK, 737 LOUDEN AVENUE, ON THE MONDAY PRIOR TO THE MEETING DATE. COPIES ARE ALSO AVAILABLE ON THE CITY’S WEBSITE AT WWW.DUNEDINGOV.COM.

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I'M GOING TO KEEP IT BRIEF I'M GOING TO KEEP IT BRIEF TODAY. TODAY. I AM HERE AGAIN -- MY NAME IS I AM HERE AGAIN -- MY NAME IS CHARLES KLEIN. CHARLES KLEIN. I LIVE IN DUNEDIN UP ON I LIVE IN DUNEDIN UP ON JEFFERSON AVENUE. JEFFERSON AVENUE. I AM HERE WITH OTHER FRIENDS OF I AM HERE WITH OTHER FRIENDS OF MINE FROM THE BOARD AND THE MINE FROM THE BOARD AND THE RESEARCH COMMITTEE OF THE RESEARCH COMMITTEE OF THE DUNEDIN PUBLIC THEATER PROJECT. DUNEDIN PUBLIC THEATER PROJECT. AND WE WANT TO COME BACK AND AND WE WANT TO COME BACK AND SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR A THEATER SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR A THEATER IN DOWNTOWN. IN DOWNTOWN. IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DOWNTOWN IS MISSING. DOWNTOWN IS MISSING. I KNOW WE ADDRESSED IN JUNE THE I KNOW WE ADDRESSED IN JUNE THE POSSIBILITY OF PARTNERING WITH POSSIBILITY OF PARTNERING WITH THE PARKING LOT. THE PARKING LOT. I JUST WANT YOU TO KEEP AN OPEN I JUST WANT YOU TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND INTO THAT POSSIBILITY. MIND INTO THAT POSSIBILITY. I KNOW THE STAFF HAS COME UP I KNOW THE STAFF HAS COME UP WITH COMMENTS THAT MAY NOT FIT WITH COMMENTS THAT MAY NOT FIT THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS, IT MAY THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS, IT MAY NOT FIT ON THE LOT. NOT FIT ON THE LOT. BUT WE HAVE ARCHITECT DRAWINGS BUT WE HAVE ARCHITECT DRAWINGS THAT SHOW IT CAN FIT ON THE LOT THAT SHOW IT CAN FIT ON THE LOT AND IT WILL STAY UNDER THE AND IT WILL STAY UNDER THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS AND IT WILL HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS AND IT WILL ADD A NEW DRAW IN TO DOWNTOWN. ADD A NEW DRAW IN TO DOWNTOWN. I KNOW BOB IRONSMITH HAS A COPY I KNOW BOB IRONSMITH HAS A COPY OF THOSE DRAWINGS AND WE KNOW OF THOSE DRAWINGS AND WE KNOW HAVE THEM ELECTRONIC THAT WE CAN HAVE THEM ELECTRONIC THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM TO ALL THE GIVE THEM TO ALL THE COMMISSIONERS IF YOU WANT THEM COMMISSIONERS IF YOU WANT THEM AND WHATEVER STAFF THINKS THEY AND WHATEVER STAFF THINKS THEY NEED THEM. NEED THEM. WE'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT. WE'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT. WE WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WE WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE STILL WANT TO WORK WITH THE STILL WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY. CITY. WE STILL WANT TO BRING THE WE STILL WANT TO BRING THE THEATER TO DOWNTOWN. THEATER TO DOWNTOWN. WE HAVE OUR 501(C)(3) OFFICIALLY WE HAVE OUR 501(C)(3) OFFICIALLY NOW. NOW. WE GOT THE LETTER A WEEK AGO. WE GOT THE LETTER A WEEK AGO. WE ARE FUND-RAISING AND WE ARE FUND-RAISING AND PLANNING. PLANNING. AND WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THE AND WE'D LIKE TO KEEP THE DIALOGUE GOING TO TRY TO BRING DIALOGUE GOING TO TRY TO BRING THIS PROJECT INTO DOWNTOWN AND THIS PROJECT INTO DOWNTOWN AND LOOK AT ANY POSSIBILITIES. LOOK AT ANY POSSIBILITIES. BUT AT LEAST KEEP AN OPEN MIND BUT AT LEAST KEEP AN OPEN MIND ON THE MIDTOWN PARKING GARAGE ON THE MIDTOWN PARKING GARAGE BECAUSE THIS WOULD PUT OUR BECAUSE THIS WOULD PUT OUR THEATER RIGHT ON THE TRAIL WHICH THEATER RIGHT ON THE TRAIL WHICH WE THINK IS AN EASY WAY FOR WE THINK IS AN EASY WAY FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO IT AND A DRAW. PEOPLE TO GET TO IT AND A DRAW. AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THE AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION. CONVERSATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Mayor Bujalski: THANK YOU >> Mayor Bujalski: THANK YOU >> Mayor Bujalski: THANK YOU VERY >> Mayor Bujalski: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] OKAY. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU, GUYS. WELL, THANK YOU, GUYS. I WANTED TO GET YOU IN AND OUT I WANTED TO GET YOU IN AND OUT OF HERE. OF HERE. AND AGAIN ON THE 15th BUDGET AND AGAIN ON THE 15th BUDGET WORKSHOP, OUR FINAL ONE, WE WILL WORKSHOP, OUR FINAL ONE, WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE CAPITAL BE TALKING ABOUT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS WHICH INCLUDE THE PROJECTS WHICH INCLUDE THE GARAGE. GARAGE. BUT I'M SURE BOB WILL LOOK AT BUT I'M SURE BOB WILL LOOK AT WHATEVER YOU HAVE GIVEN HIM AND WHATEVER YOU HAVE GIVEN HIM AND WORK WITH JENNIFER ON THAT. WORK WITH JENNIFER ON THAT. SO THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. I AM GOING TO NOW TURN IT OVER I AM GOING TO NOW TURN IT OVER TO JENNIFER FOR OPENING REMARKS. TO JENNIFER FOR OPENING REMARKS. >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT. ALL >> RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, >> RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, GOOD >> RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, GOOD MORNING, >> RIGHT. ALL RIGHT, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, ALL RIGHT, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. VICE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND GET TO THE CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND GET TO THE AGENDA. AGENDA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERE IT IS. THERE IT IS. SO IT'S A NICE RAINY DAY SO WE SO IT'S A NICE RAINY DAY SO WE COULDN'T BE ANY PLACE ELSE, COULDN'T BE ANY PLACE ELSE, RIGHT, BUT HERE, SO IT WILL BE RIGHT, BUT HERE, SO IT WILL BE FUN. FUN. I PROMISE. I PROMISE. >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> SO >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> SO I >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> SO I JUST >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> SO I JUST WANT >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> SO I JUST WANT TO >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> SO I JUST WANT TO TALK >> Mayor Bujalski: UH-HUH. >> SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A >> SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A >> SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE >> SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT >> SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT >> SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE >> SO I JUST WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE -- LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE -- >> SAY THAT WITH A LITTLE >> SAY THAT WITH A LITTLE >> SAY THAT WITH A LITTLE MORE >> SAY THAT WITH A LITTLE MORE -- MORE -- >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> IT >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> IT WILL >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> IT WILL BE >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> IT WILL BE A >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> IT WILL BE A LOT >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF >> A LITTLE MORE ENTHUSIASM. >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. >> >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. >> WE'LL >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. >> WE'LL BE >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. >> WE'LL BE READY >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. >> WE'LL BE READY TO >> IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. >> WE'LL BE READY TO ROLL. >> WE'LL BE READY TO ROLL. >> WE'LL BE READY TO ROLL. >> >> WE'LL BE READY TO ROLL. >> ALL >> WE'LL BE READY TO ROLL. >> ALL RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO. LET'S GO. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE STARTED OUR BUDGETING PROCESS. STARTED OUR BUDGETING PROCESS. WE STARTED WITH A STRATEGIC WE STARTED WITH A STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT. PLANNING RETREAT. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PRIORITIES IN THE CITY MOVING PRIORITIES IN THE CITY MOVING FORWARD FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR AND FORWARD FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR AND FOR THE FUTURE REALLY. FOR THE FUTURE REALLY. WE HAD OUR FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP WE HAD OUR FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP ON JUNE 1st. ON JUNE 1st. AND DURING THE COURSE OF THAT AND DURING THE COURSE OF THAT BUDGET WORKSHOP, WE TALKED A BUDGET WORKSHOP, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GENERAL LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND. FUND. AND WE GAVE YOU A GENERAL FUND AND WE GAVE YOU A GENERAL FUND UPDATE. UPDATE. WE SPOKE ABOUT THE TWO SCENARIOS WE SPOKE ABOUT THE TWO SCENARIOS FOR THE FOUR LARGER CAPITAL FOR THE FOUR LARGER CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAD AND PROJECTS THAT WE HAD AND DISCUSSED THOSE QUITE A BIT. DISCUSSED THOSE QUITE A BIT. WE TALKED ABOUT ONGOING AND NEW WE TALKED ABOUT ONGOING AND NEW INITIATIVES. INITIATIVES. WE GAVE YOU A STATUS OF OUR WE GAVE YOU A STATUS OF OUR INITIATIVES AND THEN TALKED A INITIATIVES AND THEN TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE NEW LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE NEW INITIATIVES THAT SOME MEMBERS OF INITIATIVES THAT SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS WELL AS STAFF. AS WELL AS STAFF. AND THEN THE CITY COMMISSION HAD AND THEN THE CITY COMMISSION HAD COMMENTS ON THOSE INITIATIVES, COMMENTS ON THOSE INITIATIVES, COMMENTS ON THE BUDGET IN COMMENTS ON THE BUDGET IN GENERAL. GENERAL. SO WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF SO WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF FOLLOW-UP ITEMS THAT WE ARE FOLLOW-UP ITEMS THAT WE ARE GOING TO SPEND QUITE A BIT OF GOING TO SPEND QUITE A BIT OF TIME ON TODAY. TIME ON TODAY. AS WE USUALLY DO DURING OUR AS WE USUALLY DO DURING OUR SECOND BUDGET WORKSHOP. SECOND BUDGET WORKSHOP. SO JUST TO KIND OF WALK US SO JUST TO KIND OF WALK US THROUGH THE AGENDA THEN, WE'RE THROUGH THE AGENDA THEN, WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER 2, THE FOLLOW-UP ON ITEM NUMBER 2, THE FOLLOW-UP FOR 2024 BUDGET WORKSHOP NUMBER FOR 2024 BUDGET WORKSHOP NUMBER 1. 1. AND THEN POSITION REQUESTS FOR AND THEN POSITION REQUESTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND DR. SMALLING WILL BE PRESENTING DR. SMALLING WILL BE PRESENTING THOSE POSITION REQUESTS. THOSE POSITION REQUESTS. AND THOSE REQUESTS ARE BOTH AND THOSE REQUESTS ARE BOTH GENERATED BY THE DEPARTMENTS AND GENERATED BY THE DEPARTMENTS AND ALSO BY OUR ORGANIZATIONAL STUDY ALSO BY OUR ORGANIZATIONAL STUDY THAT MATRIX DID. THAT MATRIX DID. ONE THING I WANT TO SAY, KIND OF ONE THING I WANT TO SAY, KIND OF A DISCLAIMER, IF YOU WILL, YOU A DISCLAIMER, IF YOU WILL, YOU DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHICH POSITIONS WE SHOULD FILL. WHICH POSITIONS WE SHOULD FILL. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REQUESTS THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REQUESTS AS I'M WAITING TO MAKE THAT AS I'M WAITING TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION UNTIL WE GET THE RECOMMENDATION UNTIL WE GET THE RESULTS OF THE CLASS AND COMP RESULTS OF THE CLASS AND COMP STUDY. STUDY. I HAVE ALWAYS COMMITTED TO THE I HAVE ALWAYS COMMITTED TO THE STAFF, THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, STAFF, THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, THAT I WILL CONVEY THEIR REQUEST THAT I WILL CONVEY THEIR REQUEST TO ALL OF YOU AS FAR AS TO ALL OF YOU AS FAR AS PERSONNEL GOES. PERSONNEL GOES. AND THEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOLLOWING THOSE REQUESTS. FOLLOWING THOSE REQUESTS. AND THAT WILL HAPPEN ON THE AND THAT WILL HAPPEN ON THE AUGUST 15th BUDGET WORKSHOP AUGUST 15th BUDGET WORKSHOP NUMBER 2. NUMBER 2. THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK A THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT REVENUE LITTLE BIT ABOUT REVENUE EXPENDITURES AND PROJECTS, ALL EXPENDITURES AND PROJECTS, ALL FUNDS. FUNDS. WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF WE'RE GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT ALL FUNDS. TIME LOOKING AT ALL FUNDS. I KNOW IT'S A BIT OF A SLOG TO I KNOW IT'S A BIT OF A SLOG TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET FUND BY FUND. FUND BY FUND. THIS ISN'T A LINE ITEM REVIEW. THIS ISN'T A LINE ITEM REVIEW. IT IS A FUND-BY-FUND REVIEW. IT IS A FUND-BY-FUND REVIEW. I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE STATUS WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE STATUS OF ALL OF OUR FUNDS IN PUBLIC OF ALL OF OUR FUNDS IN PUBLIC AND HEAR FROM ALL OF YOU AS FAR AND HEAR FROM ALL OF YOU AS FAR AS YOUR CONCERNS OR OTHER THINGS AS YOUR CONCERNS OR OTHER THINGS YOU'D LIKE US TO LOOK AT AS FAR YOU'D LIKE US TO LOOK AT AS FAR AS THOSE FUNDS GO. AS THOSE FUNDS GO. ONE THING WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ONE THING WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE LOOKING AT TODAY, THOUGH, IS LOOKING AT TODAY, THOUGH, IS THOSE FOUR LARGER CAPITAL THOSE FOUR LARGER CAPITAL PROJECTS. PROJECTS. THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE DON'T THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE ESTIMATES IN FOR HAVE ALL OF THE ESTIMATES IN FOR THE SKINNER PROJECT. THE SKINNER PROJECT. WE'RE EXPECTING THE DUKE WE'RE EXPECTING THE DUKE UNDERGROUNDING BONDED ESTIMATE UNDERGROUNDING BONDED ESTIMATE ON THE 28th WHICH IS JUST ON THE 28th WHICH IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER. AROUND THE CORNER. IT WOULD BE A FUTILE EXERCISE IT WOULD BE A FUTILE EXERCISE BECAUSE WE ALREADY DID THAT. BECAUSE WE ALREADY DID THAT. WE ARE WAITING FOR THAT. WE ARE WAITING FOR THAT. ONCE WE GET THAT, WE CAN LOOK AT ONCE WE GET THAT, WE CAN LOOK AT ALL FOUR PROJECTS. ALL FOUR PROJECTS. WE HAVE REFRESHED THE ESTIMATES WE HAVE REFRESHED THE ESTIMATES ON THE OTHERS TO THE BEST OF OUR ON THE OTHERS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. ABILITY. SOME OF THEM ARE STILL IN DESIGN SOME OF THEM ARE STILL IN DESIGN SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT BUT WE HAVE REFRESHED THE BUT WE HAVE REFRESHED THE ESTIMATES. ESTIMATES. WE ALONE LOOKING AT THE FOUR WE ALONE LOOKING AT THE FOUR CAPITAL PROJECTS ON THE 15th CAPITAL PROJECTS ON THE 15th AS WELL AND WILL HAVE THE AS WELL AND WILL HAVE THE RESULTS OF THE CLASS AND COMP RESULTS OF THE CLASS AND COMP STUDY AND WILL BE LOOKING AT THE STUDY AND WILL BE LOOKING AT THE RESULTS OF THE CLASS AND COMP RESULTS OF THE CLASS AND COMP STUDY. STUDY. SO THAT AUGUST 15th THIRD SO THAT AUGUST 15th THIRD BUDGET WORKSHOP IS GOING TO TAKE BUDGET WORKSHOP IS GOING TO TAKE US THE DAY. US THE DAY. WE EXPECT TO GO TO 4:00. WE EXPECT TO GO TO 4:00. WE ARE THE WORK SESSION IN THE WE ARE THE WORK SESSION IN THE MORNING. MORNING. WE ROLLED EVERYTHING OFF THAT WE ROLLED EVERYTHING OFF THAT WORK SESSION THAT WE COULD TO WORK SESSION THAT WE COULD TO KEEP THAT MEETING SHORT SO WE KEEP THAT MEETING SHORT SO WE COULD ROLL INTO THE BUDGET COULD ROLL INTO THE BUDGET WORKSHOP AS WELL. WORKSHOP AS WELL. WITH THAT SAID, UNLESS YOU HAVE WITH THAT SAID, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, COMMISSION -- ANY COMMENTS, COMMISSION -- >> Mayor Bujalski: WILL WE BE IN >> Mayor Bujalski: WILL WE BE IN >> Mayor Bujalski: WILL WE BE IN THIS >> Mayor Bujalski: WILL WE BE IN THIS SETUP >> Mayor Bujalski: WILL WE BE IN THIS SETUP ON >> Mayor Bujalski: WILL WE BE IN THIS SETUP ON AUGUST >> Mayor Bujalski: WILL WE BE IN THIS SETUP ON AUGUST 15th, >> Mayor Bujalski: WILL WE BE IN THIS SETUP ON AUGUST 15th, I THIS SETUP ON AUGUST 15th, I IMAGINE? IMAGINE? >> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD >> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD >> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. QUESTION. WE'RE STARTING AS A WORK WE'RE STARTING AS A WORK SESSION, SO WE MIGHT BE ON THE SESSION, SO WE MIGHT BE ON THE DAIS BECAUSE WE'LL BE IN A WORK DAIS BECAUSE WE'LL BE IN A WORK SESSION. SESSION. THAT'S FINE, WE CAN SET IT UP THAT'S FINE, WE CAN SET IT UP THIS WAY, TOO. THIS WAY, TOO. >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF WE'RE >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF WE'RE GOING >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF WE'RE GOING TO >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF WE'RE GOING TO BE >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE ALL >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN IF WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE ALL DAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE ALL DAY, IT'S PROBABLY BEST. IT'S PROBABLY BEST. >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> Mayor >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> Mayor Bujalski: >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> Mayor Bujalski: I >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN >> WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN UNLESS >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN UNLESS >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN UNLESS SOMEBODY >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS AN >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS AN OBJECTION >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS AN OBJECTION TO >> Mayor Bujalski: I MEAN UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS AN OBJECTION TO IT. SOMEBODY HAS AN OBJECTION TO IT. OKAY. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE OPENING? ANY QUESTIONS ON THE OPENING? >> OKAY. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. I'LL >> OKAY. I'LL HAND >> OKAY. I'LL HAND IT >> OKAY. I'LL HAND IT OVER >> OKAY. I'LL HAND IT OVER TO >> OKAY. I'LL HAND IT OVER TO LES >> OKAY. I'LL HAND IT OVER TO LES THEN. I'LL HAND IT OVER TO LES THEN. THANK YOU, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, THANK YOU, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONERS. >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, VICE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. LES TYLER, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR. LES TYLER, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR. I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE FOLLOW-UP MEMO. FOLLOW-UP MEMO. I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE FOLLOW-UP MEMO -- FOLLOW-UP MEMO -- >> Mayor Bujalski: IS THERE A >> Mayor Bujalski: IS THERE A >> Mayor Bujalski: IS THERE A MICROPHONE >> Mayor Bujalski: IS THERE A MICROPHONE ON? MICROPHONE ON? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT IS. IS. >> IT'S ON. >> IT'S ON. >> IT'S ON. >> >> IT'S ON. >> MAYOR, >> IT'S ON. >> MAYOR, COULD >> IT'S ON. >> MAYOR, COULD I >> IT'S ON. >> MAYOR, COULD I JUST >> IT'S ON. >> MAYOR, COULD I JUST ASK >> MAYOR, COULD I JUST ASK >> MAYOR, COULD I JUST ASK SOMETHING? SOMETHING? >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH. >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH. >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH. >> >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH. >> ARE >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH. >> ARE WE >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH. >> ARE WE THINKING >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH. >> ARE WE THINKING ABOUT >> Mayor Bujalski: YEAH. >> ARE WE THINKING ABOUT DOING >> ARE WE THINKING ABOUT DOING >> ARE WE THINKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING >> ARE WE THINKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT >> ARE WE THINKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH MICROPHONES? MICROPHONES? I ONLY SAY THIS BECAUSE MY MOM I ONLY SAY THIS BECAUSE MY MOM IS IN THE HOSPITAL. IS IN THE HOSPITAL. BUT I WATCHED ONE OF THE BUT I WATCHED ONE OF THE MEETINGS WHEN I MISSED LAST MEETINGS WHEN I MISSED LAST MEETING. MEETING. BOY, IF THE MIC IS OUT, YOU BOY, IF THE MIC IS OUT, YOU REALLY DON'T HEAR. REALLY DON'T HEAR. UNLIKE THE OLD SYSTEM, YOU UNLIKE THE OLD SYSTEM, YOU ACTUALLY COULD STILL HEAR IT ACTUALLY COULD STILL HEAR IT PRETTY MUCH. PRETTY MUCH. YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN'T HEAR. YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN'T HEAR. SO THE ON/OFF, REMINDING EACH SO THE ON/OFF, REMINDING EACH OTHER, I JUST WONDER IF THERE OTHER, I JUST WONDER IF THERE MIGHT NOT BE A MORE VOICE MIGHT NOT BE A MORE VOICE ACTED -- SUE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ACTED -- SUE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DRAMA IS WITH THAT. THE DRAMA IS WITH THAT. BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE A DRAMA. TO CONTINUE TO BE A DRAMA. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT TODAY. IT TODAY. LIKE YOU ABSOLUTELY WHEN YOU'RE LIKE YOU ABSOLUTELY WHEN YOU'RE LISTENING, YOU'RE LIKE YOU DON'T LISTENING, YOU'RE LIKE YOU DON'T HEAR. HEAR. >> WE ARE VERY AWARE. >> WE ARE VERY AWARE. >> WE ARE VERY AWARE. >> >> WE ARE VERY AWARE. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> >> YEAH. >> AND >> YEAH. >> AND PART >> YEAH. >> AND PART OF >> YEAH. >> AND PART OF IT >> YEAH. >> AND PART OF IT IS >> YEAH. >> AND PART OF IT IS -- >> YEAH. >> AND PART OF IT IS -- YOU >> YEAH. >> AND PART OF IT IS -- YOU CAN >> AND PART OF IT IS -- YOU CAN >> AND PART OF IT IS -- YOU CAN HEAR >> AND PART OF IT IS -- YOU CAN HEAR ME >> AND PART OF IT IS -- YOU CAN HEAR ME VERY >> AND PART OF IT IS -- YOU CAN HEAR ME VERY CLEARLY, >> AND PART OF IT IS -- YOU CAN HEAR ME VERY CLEARLY, RIGHT? HEAR ME VERY CLEARLY, RIGHT? BECAUSE I'VE GOT MY MICROPHONE BECAUSE I'VE GOT MY MICROPHONE ON. ON. >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT. >> >> RIGHT. >> I'M >> RIGHT. >> I'M TALKING >> RIGHT. >> I'M TALKING INTO >> RIGHT. >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. A >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. A LOT >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. A LOT OF >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. A LOT OF IT >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. A LOT OF IT -- >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. A LOT OF IT -- THESE >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. A LOT OF IT -- THESE ARE >> I'M TALKING INTO IT. A LOT OF IT -- THESE ARE GREAT A LOT OF IT -- THESE ARE GREAT MICROPHONES. MICROPHONES. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> >> YEAH. >> AND >> YEAH. >> AND RIGHT >> YEAH. >> AND RIGHT NOW >> YEAH. >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE >> YEAH. >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE ARE >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE ARE >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE ARE RENTED >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE ARE RENTED AND >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE ARE RENTED AND WE >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE ARE RENTED AND WE ARE >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE ARE RENTED AND WE ARE LOOKING >> AND RIGHT NOW THESE ARE RENTED AND WE ARE LOOKING AT RENTED AND WE ARE LOOKING AT PURCHASING. PURCHASING. >> OH, GREAT. >> OH, GREAT. >> OH, GREAT. >> >> OH, GREAT. >> A >> OH, GREAT. >> A LONG-TERM >> OH, GREAT. >> A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. >> A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. >> A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. WE >> A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. WE ARE >> A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. WE ARE EITHER >> A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. WE ARE EITHER GOING >> A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. WE ARE EITHER GOING TO >> A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. WE ARE EITHER GOING TO BE WE ARE EITHER GOING TO BE PURCHASING SOMETHING LIKE THIS PURCHASING SOMETHING LIKE THIS OR WIRELESS MICS, SO WE ARE OR WIRELESS MICS, SO WE ARE TESTING THOSE OUT WITH OUR TESTING THOSE OUT WITH OUR VIRTUAL PRODUCTIONS. VIRTUAL PRODUCTIONS. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE BOTH OF THOSE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE BOTH OF THOSE MICROPHONES TODAY IN THE BACK MICROPHONES TODAY IN THE BACK ROOM, SO WE'LL BE PLAYING AROUND ROOM, SO WE'LL BE PLAYING AROUND WITH THEM BEFORE THE NEXT WITH THEM BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING. MEETING. BUT PART OF IT IS JUST REALLY BUT PART OF IT IS JUST REALLY REMINDING PEOPLE THEY HAVE TO REMINDING PEOPLE THEY HAVE TO SPEAK INTO THESE. SPEAK INTO THESE. AND THEY HAVE TO BRING THEM AND THEY HAVE TO BRING THEM TOWARD THEM. TOWARD THEM. SO IT ISN'T THE KIND OF SO IT ISN'T THE KIND OF MICROPHONE THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE MICROPHONE THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE LOTS OF NOISE PICKED UP BECAUSE LOTS OF NOISE PICKED UP BECAUSE IF THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU IS IF THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU IS SPEAKING OR MAKING A COMMENT OR SPEAKING OR MAKING A COMMENT OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU DON'T WANT WHATEVER IT IS, YOU DON'T WANT THAT NOISE TO BE PICKED UP. THAT NOISE TO BE PICKED UP. SO THESE ARE THE MICROPHONES SO THESE ARE THE MICROPHONES THAT WE HAVE AT THIS POINT. THAT WE HAVE AT THIS POINT. AND WE ARE EXPLORING OTHER AND WE ARE EXPLORING OTHER OPTIONS. OPTIONS. BUT WE ARE AWARE, NOT ONLY OF BUT WE ARE AWARE, NOT ONLY OF THE SOUND, BUT WHAT WE KNOW IS THE SOUND, BUT WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT THE NEW SYSTEM HAS VOLUME THAT THE NEW SYSTEM HAS VOLUME CONTROLS, NOT ONLY FOR THE DAIS CONTROLS, NOT ONLY FOR THE DAIS AND THE LIVE STREAM, BUT ALSO AND THE LIVE STREAM, BUT ALSO FOR THE MICROPHONES. FOR THE MICROPHONES. AND SO WE ARE WORKING WITH THE AND SO WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR -- OR THE CO

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