COUNCIL WORKSHOP - CITYWIDE PARKING

>> OKAY LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE ARE NOW CALLING THE MEETING TO ORDER. THE DATE, WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY 19TH AND WE HAVE A SPECIAL COUNCIL WORKSHOP ON CITYWIDE PARKING. MADAME CLERK, GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL. >> [ROLLCALL]. MAYOR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM. >> IF YOU COULD ALL PLEASE RISE AND JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> ANY ORDER OF BUSINESS? >> NO, SIR. >> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS A WORKSHOP. NORMALLY AT WORKSHOP WE DO NOT TAKE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC BUT WE DID ADVERTISE IT THAT WE WOULD TAKE COMMENTS SO WE WILL CALL YOU AT THE BEGINNING AND ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THEN HAVE THE DISCUSSION ITEM, WHICH WILL BE A PRESENTATION BY STAFF AND/OR THE CONSULTANT AND THEN IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THIS IS IN ITS EARLY STAGES. THREE RULES, VERY BASIC FOR THOSE OF YOU HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME. SEE THESE SHEETS OF PAPER, ONE IS WHITE, GENERAL COMMENT, ONE IS BLUE IF YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING AND YELLOW IF YOU ARE OPPOSED TO. TODAY'S WORKSHOP IS MORE OF A COMMENT IN GENERAL BUT THREE BASIC RULES. NUMBER ONE IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK TO YOU OR TO A FRIEND, A BUDDY OR YOU ARE GOING TO GET A CALL FROM ANYBODY THAT IS CLOSE TO YOU, PLEASE STEP OUTSIDE AND SPEAK ON THE PHONE OUTSIDE. NUMBER TWO -- ALSO, BY THE WAY, PUT IT ON VIBRATE IF YOU ARE IN HERE. NUMBER TWO, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TELL US YOUR OPINION. WE'RE ON A THREE MINUTE TIME PERIOD. THERE IS A CLOCK WHICH SOME OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH. IT WILL START TICKING AFTER YOU GIVE US OUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND ONCE IT BUZZES YOU WILL WRAP UP AND THREE YOU HAVE ANY RIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT TODAY, NOT JUST AND LIMITED TO THE PARKING ISSUES. SO IF YOU CHOOSE YOU ARE CERTAINLY CRITICIZE MYSELF, THE COUNCILMEMBERS, THE ADMINISTRATION, EVEN YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE MERITED BUT YOU MUST DO IT RESPECTFULLY OR SOMEBODY IN THE DARK BLUE UNIFORM IS GOING TO TAP YOU ON THE SHOULDER AND ASK YOU TO STEP OUTSIDE. IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BUT THESE DAYS WE'D RATHER BE SAFE THAN SORRY. HAVING SAID THAT WE'RE NOW GOING TO OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THE MEETING AND I'M GOING TO CALL UP THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE FILLED OUT THE CARDS. MR. PETER CHRIST. >> MR. MAYOR, IF I COULD PLEASE ASK THE INDIVIDUALS SPEAKING ON PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE'S A HAND HELD MICROPHONE. HOLD IT UP AGAINST YOU. THANK YOU. >> TESTING. JEFF HINES. MR. MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBER, ADMINISTRATION, FIRST I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE DURING THE LAST TWO YEARS I HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH THE PROFESSIONS OF THE CITY ABOUT ALL THE PROCESS OF DRAFTING AND REVIEWING ON THE PROCESS OF HOW TO FIX STAGES WE'RE IN. MAYBE HEARING ME SAYING THIS IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS BUT AGAIN MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE PARKING PIRATES HIJACK THE PARKING WE DESERVE TO HAVE HERE AS RESIDENTS BY IMPOSING VALID PARKING OPERATES AND OBSTRUCTING SPACES THAT WE APPROVE OR YOU APPROVE A SPECIAL PLAN AND TO X AMOUNTS OF SPACES TO USE FOR THE COMMON USE AND THEY TAKE THE PREMIUM SPOTS ONLY FOR THE GUY THAT WANTS TO DISH ADDITIONAL FIFTEEN DOLLARS AND ALSO ALONG THAT LINE, COMMERCIAL OH SPOTS ARE TO BE UNRESTRICTED USES FOR THOSE SPOTS AND NOW WE HAVE PLACARDS, ONLY MY GUYS CAN PARK HERE SO ZONING AND DEVELOPER SAYS YOU NEED TO HAVE X AMOUNTS OF SPOTS TO BE USED BY ANYONE THAT'S ATTENDING ANY OF THE BUSINESS IN THAT PLAZA. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE. IF BE WERE ALSO TO HAVE PARKING AUTHORITY, MAYBE THE NUMBERS ARE NOT YET OR WE HAVE A LOT TO LEARN, MAYBE IT'S SMART TO DO IT THE FIRST YEAR TO GET RID OF SOMEONE ELSE AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO PUT METERS PUT THEM WITH A TIME LIMIT BECAUSE THERE'S NO REASON TO HAVE A PARKING IF SOMEONE WILL USE AN EXTENSION BECAUSE MY APARTMENT ONLY HAS ONE PARKING SPOT AND I LEAVE MY CAR FOR EIGHT HOURS. IF YOU LEAVE THREE HOURS NO RENEWABLE YOU'LL HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THE DOWNTOWN AREAS TO ENJOY A MEAL OR WHATEVER BUT WITH THE MAXIMUM THAT YOU DO IN OUR AREAS YOU CANNOT RENEW MORE THAN FOUR HOURS FROM YOUR PHONE. THESE ARE SOME OF THE IDEAS I'VE SHARED WITH YOU IN WORKSHOPS IN THE PAST AND I APPRECIATE YOU TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION FOR YOUR DISCUSSION AND THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS WORKSHOP TOGETHER BECAUSE US AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY NEED THIS TO INCORPORATE THE WIDENING AND ENJOYMENT OF THE CITY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHRIST. JOEY HERMANEZ. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I THINK FOR AS LONG AS PETER AND I HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER WE'RE AGREEING AND THAT IS NICE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON DOWNTOWN DORAL AND I THINK DOWNTOWN DORAL HAS SIMPLE SOLUTIONS. WE MET WITH STAFF, CONSULTANTS AND ALL WE'RE ASKING YOU DO HERE WHAT DO YOU KNOW TOWNS AROUND MIAMI HAVE DOWN IN CERTAIN PARTS OF MIAMI BEACH AND OBVIOUSLY PAY BY PHONE IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN I SAY PAY BY METER AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT PETER MEANT AS WELL. I'LL REMIND FOUR OF YOU THAT I'VE GOT CALLS FROM PARKING HERE AND CHANGING ON THE STREETS. I CANNOT CONTROL WHO COMES AND BUILDS OUR PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY ARE SUBCONTRACTORS. I HAVE SEEN SOME OF YOUR EMPLOYEES, ONE IN PARTICULAR, I WON'T SEE THE CAR THAT EVERY TIME I COME HERE BECAUSE YOU DRIVE THE SAME KIND OF CAR PARKS ON THE STREET BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO COME INTO THE GARAGE AND I'M ASSUMING THAT ON THIS STREET OVER HERE IT'S THE SAME THING. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO PARK IN THE GARAGE SO THEY PARK AND THAT HURTS BUSINESSES AND IT'S RARE THAT A BUSINESS OWNER WILL ASK YOU TO TAKEAWAY FREE PARKING BUT WHEN THERE'S SO MUCH PARKING IN THE GARAGES WE'VE STARTED ENFORCING MORE AND NOW THERE'S A LOT MORE RETAIL PARKING BECAUSE WE'RE NOT LETTING THE RESIDENTS AND STAFF PARKING IN THE RETAIL. WE'RE HOPING IT GETS BETTER AND WE'D APPRECIATE TO WHATEVER YOU ARE GOING TO DO AND THE REST OF THE CITY AND I KNOW THOSE PROBLEMS ARE SERIOUS AND COMPLICATED WE BELIEVE THIS ONE IS EASY AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE MOVING THAT FORWARD. WITH RESPECT TO A PARKING AUTHORITY THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE PRIVATE PARKING AUTHORITIES. YOU CAN PIGGYBACK OFF THOSE CONTRACTS. THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD FIND THAT POSSIBLE AND YOU COULD ACTUALLY MAKE SOME MONEY. NONE OF THIS MONEY WOULD GO TO US. I WANT TO PUT THIS ON THE RECORD. THIS IS WHY WE'RE ASKING YOU. >> I JUST REMEMBERED ONE OF THE THINGS I NEED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? COME ON UP AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND GIVE US YOUR OPINION IN A SHORT SUCCINCT AND CONCISE MANNER. >> THANK YOU, PETER, FOR THE JEOPARDY MUSIC BUT I FORGOT TO BRING IT AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION WILL NOW BE CLOSED AND WE ARE GOING TO CALL UP -- MR. MANAGER WAS GOING TO TAKE THIS PRESENTATION? >> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO OUR TRANSPORTATION MANAGER. THE CITY OF DORAL CONTENDS WITH A SHORTAGE OF PUBLIC PARKING SUPPLY AS IT GROWS FROM A ONCE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY TO AN URBAN CITY AND ON STREET PARKING WITHIN DOWNTOWN DORAL TO ADDRESS PARKING DEFICIENCIES. HOWEVER, THERE ARE SEVERAL DISTINCT CONCERNS FOR PUBLIC PARKING THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THE EXAMPLE OF THIS IS DOWNTOWN DORAL AREA WHERE VEHICLES PARK FOR FREE IN ON STREET PARKING SPACES FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME WITHOUT OFFERING OPPORTUNITIES TO OTHERS AND THE CITY WORK ORDER NUMBER ONE TO PERFORM A CITYWIDE PARKING STUDY. THE PARKING STUDY WAS COMPLETED AT THE END OF 2019 AND ADOPTED BY THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ON OCTOBER 2019 VIA RESOLUTION 19-254. AS A FOLLOW-UP TO THE STUDY THIS CITY AWARDED WORK ORDER NUMBER FOUR FOR THE CREATION OF A CITY PARKING ORDINANCE, THE FIRST STEP ADOPTED STUDY AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO RITA TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE STUDY AND MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE ENTER INTO A DISCUSSION. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE. AS HE STATED WE ISSUED A WORK ORDER WITH THE WATTMAN GROUP AND WE HAVE TRACEY BURK HERE WITH THE GROUP AND SHE HAS MANY YEARS OF KNOWLEDGE AND OVERSAW THE PARKING IN THE CITY FOR YEARS AND WE HAVE LEARNED A LOT FROM HER. WE HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE FROM THE STUDY ADOPTED BACK IN OCTOBER AND SHE IS GOING TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING AND THEN HOW WE'RE GOING TO DRAFT THAT LANGUAGE AND GETTING YOUR INPUT ON HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE THOSE COMMENTS. >> GOOD EVENING, TRACEY BURK. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT. WHAT WE THOUGHT WE'D DO IS GO AHEAD AND GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE STUDY AND JUST AGAIN GIVE YOU THE HIGHLIGHTS OF HOW WE GOT TO WHEREWITH WE ARE TODAY. WITH THE CITYWIDE REVIEW OF THE PARKING STUDY OF CITYWIDE PARKING WE WERE REALLY INSTRUCTED TO LOOK AT CURRENT DEMAND AND FUTURE DEMAND AND HOW THE PARKING EFFICIENCIES WERE WORKING AND WERE WE GOING TO BE READY FOR THE FUTURE. WITHIN THE STUDY IT WAS CITYWIDE. RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT AND THE ADAPTIVE REUSE AND VARIOUS INDUSTRIAL LOCATIONS. THE GRAPHIC ON THE POWER POINT IS THE SPECIFIC FOCUS AREA WHERE WE COLLECTED MORE ACTUAL DATA, SPECIFIC DATA FOR UTILIZATION. OKAY SO HERE IN SOME OF THE OCCUPANCY OF THE DATA COLLECTION. ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS IN THE PARKING INDUSTRY WE CONSIDER 85% EFFICIENCY OF PARKING SUPPLY. ONCE YOU REACH THAT YOU ARE BASICALLY FULL. IT'S HARD TO FIND THOSE LAST ONE OR TWO SPACES FOR VARIOUS SPACES. SO IN THAT SPECIFIC FOCUS AREA WE WERE AT 94% ON STREET, PUBLIC PARKING ON AND OFF STREET. IT WASN'T PRIVATE PARKING BUT IT WAS OFF STREET PARKING THAT WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC OR ON STREET PARKING AND THE OFF STREET WAS 74%. 78%. SO IT'S PRETTY WELL MAXIMIZED AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT IS VERY, IF YOU WILL. PART OF THE STUDY ALSO INCLUDED ONLINE SURVEY AND WAS OPEN FOR NINE WEEKS. AND THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT UNDER TWO HUNDRED RESPONSES AND SOME OF THE COMMON HIGHLIGHTS WERE DORAL IS STILL A DRIVING COMMUNITY. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS TALKS ABOUT HOW DO YOU GET TO DOWNTOWN OR WHATEVER THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WERE FOR THAT COMPONENT OF THE STUDY OR THE SURVEY AND OVERWHELMINGLY IT WAS 100% DRIVING COMMUNITY. SOME PEOPLE SAID THEY WERE WILLING TO PAY FOR PARKING AND IF IT WERE FREE THEY'D WALK A LITTLE FURTHER COMPARED TO HAVING TO PAY FOR OVERWHELMINGLY IT WAS MORE AREAS TO PARK FOR DIFFERENT REASONS BUT THAT WAS AN OVERWHELMING COMMENT. WE ALSO HAD STAKEHOLDER GROUPS. THERE WERE FIVE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER GROUPS THAT WE HAD SESSIONS WITH. DOWNTOWN, CITY PLACE, WE INVITED SCHOOLS FROM THE WHOLE CITY TO TALK ABOUT PARKING. ADAPTIVE REUSE AREA AND VARIOUS INDUSTRIAL LOCATIONS FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. AGAIN, THERE'S SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS THERE, AGAIN THE COMMON THREAD NEEDING MORE PARKING, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AGAIN. THE SCHOOL, THE ADAPTIVE REUSE AREA HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE UPPER HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL, UPPER SCHOOL FOR THE DROP OFF. IT WAS A NO DRIVE SCHOOL BUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE UPCOMING YEARS WHEN STUDENTS WERE DRIVING? THAT WAS OF BIG CONCERN AS WELL. SIDEWALKS, CURBING AND SOME OF THE LEGAL PARKING ISSUES WERE BROUGHT UP. MAJOR FINDINGS AND FUTURE DEMAND: IF ALL OF THE MASTER PLAN AND AGREEMENT ENTITLEMENTS WERE DEVELOPED AND IT WAS UNDER THIS CURRENT CITY CODE REQUIREMENTS AS THEY ARE TODAY THERE WOULD BE A DEFICIENCY OF APPROXIMATELY 7,600 SPACES. WHAT WE DID WAS PUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS INTO THREE CATEGORIES, SHORT-TERM, MIDTERM AND LONG-TERM. AND IN THE SHORT-TERM REALLY WHAT ONE OF THE OTHER CITIZENS JUST SPOKE ABOUT WAS MANAGING THE PARKING. ON STREET PARKING IS AN ASSET FOR THE CITY AND HOW DO YOU MANAGE WHAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT TURNOVER IS OCCURRING AND THAT YOU ARE GETTING THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THOSE SPACES AND IT'S HELPING THE BUSINESSES? SO LOOKING AT THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO MANAGE PARKING. PARKING AUTHORITY. IT COULD BE MANAGED THROUGH THE CITY DEPARTMENTS OR IT COULD BE PRIVATE COMMERCIAL OPERATORS OR A BLEND OF ALL THOSE DIFFERENT KINDS BUT SOME SORT OF MANAGEMENT OF THE PARKING ASSET IS IMPORTANT AND AGAIN, BRANDING THE PROGRAM, NOT JUST INSTALLING METERS AND HAVING A PAID PARKING PROGRAM BUT WHAT ARE THE GOALS? WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? AND THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY IS VERY IMPORTANT. YOU GUYS ARE VERY PROGRESSIVE WITH THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY AND THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS TO MAKE IT CONVENIENT FOR THE CITIZENS, FOR THE CUSTOMERS AND THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO WHEN WE HAVE MANAGED PARKING. WE DON'T WANT TO WRITE TICKETS AND BE PUNITIVE. WE WANT TO MAKE IT EASY FOR THE PUBLIC TO USE THE PARKING TO BE COMPLIANT SO THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY I THINK YOU GUYS ARE IN A GREAT POSITION TO MOVE FORWARD. EXISTING CONDITIONS, SHORT-TERM RECOMMENDATIONS AND THIS WAS NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA BUT FOR REGULATORY AND SAFETY CONCERNS IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STUDY AND PARKING DEMAND, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT WHERE THE PARKING IS TODAY AND WHERE THE DEMAND IS COMING AND BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IN THE PIPELINE. THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE, AGAIN, THIS WAS FROM A STUDY FROM LAST YEAR. SO IT SHOWS IN THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER FIFTY THIRD TEAR AS AND EIGHTY-SEVENTH AVENUE THERE'S NOTATION FOR A POTENTIAL GARAGE SITE THAT MAY NO LONGER BE RELEVANT BUT THAT WAS BASED ON RE ADAPTIVE USE AREA AND THE DOWNTOWN AREA FOR A TRANSIT TYPE HUB. MIDTERM RECOMMENDATION, VALLEY PARKING IS HUGE. AGAIN, YOU GUYS ARE IN A GREAT POSITION TO BEGIN A PROGRAM WHETHER IT'S A BLEND OF A CENTRALIZED PARKING, VALET PARKING IN IDENTIFIED AREAS AND/OR JUST PRIVATE PARKING OPERATORS BUT HAVE ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT HELPS CONTROL THAT AND MAKE SURE IT'S WHAT YOU WANT FOR THE CITIZENS TO USE AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO ALL BE CENTRALIZED BUT THAT'S BEEN VERY PRODUCTIVE IN CITIES AND VERY EFFICIENT AND TYPICALLY YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE ALL YOUR ON STREET PARKING USED FOR DROP OFF OR PICKUP AREA TO BE RESERVED FOR A VALET PROGRAM SO HAVING A CENTRALIZED SYSTEM LIMITS WHAT YOU HAVE AND AGAIN, IT'S SHARED SO IT'S A SHARED PROGRAM AND IF THE CITY WERE TO MANAGE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT LEAST PUT THE RULES IN PLACE TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT. RESIDENT, AGAIN, THIS CAME FROM THE SURVEYS. IT WAS A VERY BIG CONCERN. IN SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THERE'S NOT SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR ALL THE VEHICLES AND THE HOMES. SO LOOKING AT IF THERE'S AREAS IN THE CITY WHERE THIS COULD WORK IS USING ON STREET PARKING OR MAYBE SOME OFF STREET CITY PARKING THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE DURING OFF HOURS, NIGHTS OR WEEKENDS WHEN THE INTENDED USE IS NOT OPEN? THAT COULD BE SOMETHING TO HELP ALLEVIATE THOSE CONCERNS AND AGAIN THAT GOES BACK TO THE SHARED PARKING CONCEPT. WHEN AN AREA OF PARKING GOES DARK AND THERE'S ANOTHER USE THAT CAN PROFIT -- NOT PROFIT BUT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEN WHY NOT? IT'S SOMETHING AT LEAST TO LOOK INTO AND THAT'S COMMON IN OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AGAIN IN LONG-TERM IT'S REALLY MONITORING YOUR POLICIES THAT YOU HAVE IN PLACE AND PARKING IS DYNAMIC. YOU DON'T JUST PUT IT OUT THERE AND IT'S GOING TO BE THAT WAY FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. IT CHANGES SO BEING IN TOUCH AND IN TUNE WITH WITH HOW THE PUBLIC SYSTEM IS WORKING IS GOING TO BE TO YOUR ADVANTAGE. LOOKING FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES. THIS IS VERY POPULAR TOO AND I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU THIS BUT AP THREE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WHERE DEVELOPMENT MAY SAY WHATEVER INCENTIVE THERE COULD BE TO BUILD ADDITIONAL PUBLIC PARKING INTO A DEVELOPMENT, IT COULD BE AN ADVANTAGE FOR BOTH AND TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS, I KNOW YOU LOOK FOR BUT AGAIN, HOW DO WE MINIMIZE THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES BUT HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING FOR THEM AND MAYBE NOT IN FRONT OF A BUSINESS BUT IN AN AREA THAT'S CLOSE BY AND THE FIRST MILE LAST MILE PIECE COULD BE ADDRESSED THROUGH SOME SORT OF TRANSIT HUB WITH THE TODS. OKAY SO THE LAST TWO SLIDES ARE THE NEXT STEPS. IT'S VERY SUMMARIZED BUT LOOKING AT WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. ESTABLISHING SOME SORT OF A PARKING MANAGED PROGRAM. NO MATTER HOW IT ENDS UP BEING THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT AND WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE AN ENTERPRISE FUND OR SOME OTHER WAY BUT ESTABLISHING A COST TO DO SO SO THAT'S REALLY THE FIRST STEP IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING. OF COURSE TO DO THAT YOU'D HAVE TO DO SOME CODE AMENDMENTS AND THEN THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT IT, COMMERCIAL OPERATION. MANY TIMES THE COMMERCIAL OPERATORS HAVE A MUCH MORE -- THEY HAVE BUYING POWER FOR EQUIPMENT SO THERE COULD BE A SITUATION WHERE THERE MAY BE NO CATTLE OUTLAY FOR THE EQUIPMENT WHERE THEY COULD SAY TERM OF A CONTRACT UNDER THESE CONDITIONS WE COULD PUT THE EQUIPMENT IN FOR YOU. THE PARKING IS ALWAYS GOOD WHEN PEOPLE KNOW WHERE IT IS WHETHER IT'S PARKING GUIDANCE SYSTEM, PARKING APPS, DYNAMIC INFORMATION TO GUIDE YOU TO THOSE SPACES. THAT'S A PIECE ESTABLISHING THE PROGRAM AS WELL. NUMBER FIVE WAS FOR ACTION PLAN FOR THE EXISTING CONDITIONS WHERE THERE'S REGULATORY AND/OR SAFETY CONCERNS THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED WITH WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU, MISS BURK. DO YOU WANT RITA OR GENE TO ADD ANYTHING FROM PUBLIC WORKS? OKAY. AT THIS POINT THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS, COMMENTS. >> TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, I MEAN THIS PRESENTATION TO ME STATES THE OBVIOUS TO US. I MEAN ANYONE THAT'S LIVED HERE AND DRIVEN AROUND, EVERYTHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY IS OBVIOUS. THE QUESTION IS I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE SOLUTIONS ARE, ANY REAL CONCRETE SOLUTIONS. IN DOWNTOWN DORAL ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE IS WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DOING THE MIXED USES A STUDY WAS PRESENTED TO US AND LIKE I ALWAYS SAY STUDIES CAN LIE BUT THE STUDY WAS PRESENTED TO US AND IT SOUNDED CONVINCING AT THAT TIME BECAUSE OF THE MIXED USE COMPONENT THERE WOULD BE LESS USE FOR PARKING. BUT IN REALITY IT DIDN'T SEE OTHER NEEDS MAYBE THAT WERE THERE. THERE'S NO VISITOR PARKING IN THE BUILDINGS IN DOWNTOWN DORAL. A VISITOR COMES HAS TO VALET. ANOTHER COMPONENTS OF DORAL, WE'RE AN INTERNATIONAL CITY WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FROM OUTSIDE THE COUNTY AND FAMILY COMES TO VISIT MAYBE FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND TO PARK, VALET PARK ON A DAILY IS SEVEN DOLLARS A DAY SO IT GETS EXPENSIVE AND YOU CAN'T EVEN REGISTER THE CAR IN REGULAR VALET IF YOU ARE NOT A RESIDENT AND ALL THESE ASSOCIATION REQUIREMENTS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN PEOPLE ARE HAVING TO FIND A PLACE TO PARK AND THEY LEAVE IT OVERNIGHT AND MAYBE LEAVE AT TEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND IT'S A CHALLENGE. SO THERE'S NO VISITOR PARKING MIXED USE FAILED. WE FALL SHORT. I LIVE HERE SO I SEE IT. BESIDES THESE OTHER ISSUES WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER IN MY OWN PARKING GARAGE. THEN WE HAVE THE AREAS IN THE NORTH PART OF TOWN, THE DORAL PROJECT, STREET PARKING OUT THERE AND IT'S FULL AT NIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY, MOST OF THE AREAS WE INHERITED FROM THE COUNTY AND THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS WEREN'T SUFFICIENT AND WE ADJUSTED THEM ONCE AND ACCORDING TO STUDIES, WE TRIED TO MAKE THEM A LITTLE STRICTER AND THEY STILL FALL SHORT BECAUSE DORAL IS A COMMUNITY, A DRIVING COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW? BUSINESSES ARE LARGE HERE. WE FORGET HOW FAR WE ARE HERE. GEOGRAPHICALLY FROM ONE CORNER OF DORAL TO THE OTHER, WE'RE HUGE. NO ONE THINKS OF IT THAT WAY. AS A RESULT OF THAT TO SIT THERE AND SAY FORGET WALKING, WE'RE NOT A WALKING COMMUNITY AT ALL. DOWNTOWN DORAL A, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT WE'RE NOT A WALKING COMMUNITY. TRANSIT ISN'T OUT HERE THAT MUCH AND IF YOU GO TO THE NORTH PART OF TOWN LIKE YOU WERE SAYING MAYBE OPEN PARKING SPACES WHERE THERE ISN'T ANY BUT AT SCHOOL, ONE OF THE FEW PLACES BUT SOMEONE HAD TO WALK THREE, FOUR, FIVE, BLOCKS TO GET HOME. IS IT PRACTICAL FROM A SAFETY POINT OF VIEW ALL THOSE THINGS AND THEN YOU RUN INTO THE PRIVATE COMMUNITIES WHERE LIKE I REMEMBER SOME USED TO REQUIRE PARKING STICKER TO PARK IN FRONT OF YOUR OWN HOUSE EVEN IF IT WAS ASSIGNED PARKING AND IF NOT THEY WOULD TOE YOUR PARK AWAY. THEY DON'T ALLOW RESIDENTS TO PARK IN THE GUEST PARKING OVERNIGHT OR THEY'LL TOE THOSE AWAY TOO. TO ME IT'S LIKE GOING BACKWARDS. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE ANSWERS ARE AND I DON'T REALLY HEAR ANY TONIGHT. ONE OF THE THINGS IT DOES AND I WAS IN SUPPORT OF BECAUSE I THINK THE ADAPTIVE REUSE AREA NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN A WAY BUT IT DOES CONCERN ME. WHAT COMES FIRST? THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG? WELL AT THE END OF THE DAY UNLESS WE IDENTIFY IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A PARKING GARAGE IN THE FUTURE SOONER OR LATER WE'RE GOING TO FIND THE NIGHTMARE THERE UNLESS WE ADDRESS IT AHEAD OF TIME. PARKING HAS BEEN A SIRI PROBLEM IN OUR COMMUNITY FOREVER. A LOT OF THE GATED COMMUNITIES HAVE THEIR OWN RULES AND DON'T LET PEOPLE PARK ON THE STREET REGARDLESS. SOME DO AND SOME DON'T AND WE HAVE NO SAY IN THOSE AND MIXED USE PROJECTS ARE ALREADY ON THEIR WAY AND P U D'S ARE ALREADY IN PLACE AND NOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL PUT A MORATORIUM ON P U D'S AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS WHICH AGAIN WHEN THEY FIRST CAME TO US THE STUDIES WERE SHOWN AND THEY SEEMED GOOD AND IN HINDSIGHT YOU REALIZE THEY ARE NOT MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. MAYBE PUT A RESTRICTION ON THE MAP FROM 6 P.M. TO 7:00 A.M. AND BY THE MORNING THEY ARE GONE. MAYBE NOT SEVEN. MAYBE NINE THEY HAVE TO BE OUT OF THERE TO FACILITATE FOR RETAIL TO COME IN BUT THERE ISN'T SUFFICIENT PARKING AT ALL. I MEAN EVENTUALLY SUPPOSEDLY WHEN ALL THE GARAGES ARE BUILT IN DOWNTOWN DORAL THERE WILL BE. IT'S A NIGHTMARE. IN THE BEGINNING THEY WERE BOOTING ALL THE CARS PARKING IN THE MEDICAL BUILDING BECAUSE IT WAS AN EMPTY PARKING LOT AND NOW THEY PUT A FENCE AROUND SO THEY MADE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO USE AND THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE. PEOPLE SEE PARKING. WHY CAN'T I PARK THERE? EVEN IF IT'S FAMOUS DAVE'S OR THE REGION. THEY GO THERE. I THINK MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD MAKE SURE WE'RE ADDRESSING PARKING PROPERLY. HOW DO WE GO BACKWARDS AND FIX IT? THE PAINFUL PARKING, TO ME, NOW WITH THE APPS IT'S EASIER. WITH THE APPS AND EVERYBODY HAS A PHONE JUST ABOUT SO YOU CAN HAVE THAT BUT IF IT WAS TO RAISE FUNDS, IF IT'S TO FIND A SOLUTION I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT IF IT'S A REAL SOLUTION. IN TERMS OF CHARGING I'VE NEVER BEEN A FAN OF THAT BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO USE IT TO FUND AND WITH THAT MONEY WE USE IT TO SAY I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT CITY HALL PARKING AND EVEN DOWNTOWN DORAL HAS A LOT OF OPEN PARKING LOTS AT NIGHT THAT MAYBE THEY NEED TO START LOOKING AT. DIFFERENT OWNERSHIPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT BUT MAYBE TRY TO LOOK AT HOW THAT CAN BE USED TO SOLVE SOME OF THOSE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. >> COUNCILWOMAN. >> YES. I'M ACTUALLY HAPPY THAT WE ARE SEEING SUGGESTIONS INTO HOW WE CAN TACKLE THE ISSUE. THE ISSUE IS HERE AND WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A BIG ONE AND GOING FORWARD WE NEED TO REVISE WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR THE PRIVATE PARKING FOR THE BUILDERS BUT WHAT WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW IS ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH THE AREAS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS. MY BIGGEST QUESTION RIGHT NOW IS HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I HAPPENED TO AGREE WITH? NUMBER ONE THE RESIDENTIAL PERMIT FOR THE PARKING IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPLEMENTED AROUND THE AREA OF RONALD REAGAN AND THOSE COMMUNITIES WHICH I BELIEVE IT'S DORAL, THOSE COMMUNITIES, A LOT OF THEM AND THEY ARE ALREADY USING THE SOIL SO IT'S ALREADY LIKE A MAKESHIFT ON STREET PARKING ANYWAY SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT INSTEAD OF THEM TAKING THE GRASS AREA AND GOING OVER SPRINKLERS AND WHATNOT AND THEN IT LOOKS UGLY OR WHATEVER, LET'S GET IT ORGANIZED IN A WAY THAT WE CAN GET THAT TO BE RESIDENTIAL PARKING WITH A PERMIT ESPECIALLY IN THE EVENINGS AND ON WEEKEND AND WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH THE SCHOOL SO WE CAN HAVE THE STUDENT PARKING FLOW AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL IF NEED BE. THIS IS NOT A ONE ISSUE OR ONE SOLUTION PROBLEM. THIS IS A MULTI PROCESS. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SCHOOLS WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GO OUT TO THE SCHOOLS AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM IN EDUCATING THEM IN THE SCHOOL DROP OFF AND PICK UP PROCESS AND THE NEED FOR VOLUNTEERS FOR THAT TO MOVE IT ALONG AND MAKE IT SAFE AND EASY FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE THEN THEY DON'T USE THE OUTSIDE PARKING. THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S CONTINUOUS ESPECIALLY WITH THE NUMBER OF SCHOOLS COMING ONLINE. THE PAYING FOR THE PARKING WHETHER IT'S ON THE APPS WHICH I THINK THEY ARE GREAT, A LOT OF COMMUNITIES ARE DOING THEM. IT'S NOT A TERRIBLE AMOUNT OF MONEY TO PAY. IT'S A COUPLE OF DOLLARS FOR A FEW HOURS SO YOU CAN HAVE YOUR MEAL, PROBABLY CHEAPER THAN VALET PARKING BUT WHATEVER WORKS OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A ROTATION. WHEN WHAT WE SEE IN AREAS WITH FREE PARKING IS PEOPLE LEAVE THEIR CARS THERE AND THAT HAPPENS AROUND LEGACY PARK, DOWNTOWN DORAL, ANYWHERE WHERE THERE'S RIGHT NOW OFFICIAL ON STREET PARKING PEOPLE LEAVE THEIR CARS INCLUDING VANS WITH BUSINESSES AND THEY LEAVE IT THERE OVERNIGHT FOR DAYS AND WHATNOT. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE EITHER START DOING THE METERS DURING THE DAYTIME AND THEN OVERNIGHT PARKING WE CAN SEE HOW TO APPROACH THAT BUT I DO AGREE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND AGAIN, MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD WOULD BE, HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND WHERE DO WE GO NEXT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE GET IMPLEMENTED? I BELIEVE IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR AND WANTS THE CITY TO PROCEED WITH. >> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WE HAVE TRACEY WHO IS HELPING US DEVELOP THE ORDINANCE. WE ALREADY HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS OUTLINED, THE STRUCTURE OF LANGUAGE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS FOR THE ORDINANCE. WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE HOW WE GET YOUR FEEDBACK AS A COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ACCORDINGLY. WE'RE LOOKING TO OUR SIT SISTER CITIES CORAL GABLES AND LESSONS LEARNED IN WHAT THEY'VE DONE SO WE CAN MAKE SURE TO PIGGYBACK THOSE ORDINANCES THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE IMPLEMENT THE SAME THING. >> ONE OTHER QUESTION. WHAT IS THE TURNAROUND PERIOD THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THE SHORT-TERM AND THE MIDTERM SOLUTIONS TO SEE THEM IMPLEMENTED. >> AFTER WE PASS THE ORDINANCE WE'LL HAVE A PERIOD WHERE WE START ENFORCING SOME OF THE THINGS BUT WE PROBABLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO COME UP WITH TECHNOLOGY VENDOR TO HELP US OUT WITH THAT AND ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THAT GOES HAND-IN-HAND. IF WE DON'T DO THE ENDORSEMENT IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK SO IT HAS TO GO BOTH HAND-IN-HAND SO WE HAVE TO WORK AND SEE HOW WITH CAN STRUCTURE THAT WHETHER IT'S INTERNALLY, WITH STAFF OR IF WE'RE GOING TO OUTSOURCE THAT. THIS IS A DISCUSSION THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS OF MISS BURK OR RITA? >> I JUST WANT TO COMMENT. I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CAB RARE RAW. FOR THIS STUDY TO BE TAKING PLACE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO COMMENT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE AROUND REGAN AFTER THOSE SIGNS, THE ONE ALWAYS BUGGING WHEN IT COMES TO THAT BECAUSE OF HOW IT WAS AFFECTING MY COMMUNITY AT THIS TIME BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE PARKING AND LEAVING ILLEGALLY BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMUNITIES ON THE NORTH SIDE ARE OPEN AND I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO THE RENTALS AND SHORT-TERM AND THAT'S A WAY FOR US TO TARGET THEM. THE SIGNS THAT WERE PLACED AROUND RONALD REAGAN HAVE WORKED BEAUTIFULLY. HAVING THOSE SIGNS THERE IN THE EVENING FOR NO ONE TO PARK THERE AND THEN DURING THE DAY BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN I SPOKE WITH THE PRINCIPAL HE WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT SAID HE NEEDED SOME OF THE KIDS TO PARK. THOSE SIGNS HAVE WORKED PERFECTLY. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. NO MORE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? >> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AND TRY TO CREATE THE BEST AND THOROUGH ORDINANCE SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. WE DO HAVE TO ENTER SOME KIND OF -- IF WE DO THE ENFORCEMENT PORTION WE MAY HAVE TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY. THAT'S ANOTHER STEP THAT WE'RE TALKING WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO SEE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION, AROUND THE OTHER PARKS ESPECIALLY ON LEGACY, DO YOU ALSO INCLUDE ANY SPECIAL STUDY WITH THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ISSUES AROUND THE PARK, HAVING ALL THOSE BANDS AND COMMERCIAL ONES THERE. >> CORRECT. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS HAVE RESIDENTIAL PERMITS TO BE ALLOWED FIRST COME FIRST SERVE IN THAT AREA AND WE WOULDN'T GIVE PERMITS TO THOSE VANS AND IF THEY ARE PARKED THAT'S A WAY OF ENFORCING THAT. THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION WE HAVE GOING ON. >> I WANT TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT. >> I'D LIKE TO STUDY A LITTLE BIT MORE. >> ME TOO. >> YES BEFORE WE REACH A CONCLUSION. I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. >> JUST TO WRAP THAT UP I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE PROS AND CONS OF EACH ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU ARE OFFERING. SO IF YOU GUYS COULD PREPARE THAT FOR US THAT WOULD BE NICE. >> WE'LL FOLLOW-UP WITH THAT. >> OKAY. >> THEY BLOCKED OFF PARKING AND THEY RESTRICTED TO EITHER A CERTAIN TENANT. >> WOULD BE AWARDED PERMITS. >> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION VICE MAYOR, WE'RE -- IN THIS ORDINANCE WE WERE JUST LOOKING FOR ON STREET AND OFF STREET PARKING. THAT'S SOMETHING SEPARATE THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT AND EXPLORE AND THERE'S SOME OTHER ISSUES TOO THAT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT. >> THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF PARTICIPATION. I'M NOT SURE WHERE YOU GUYS WENT TO GET SOME OF THE RESPONSES FOR THESE ISSUES. WAS IT STRICTLY AN ONLINE SURVEY? MAYBE YOU COULD GO OUT TO SCHOOLS OR SHOPPING CENTERS. >> WE DID STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS AND MET WITH THE SCHOOLS AND WE DID PROMOTE IT BUT WE GOT LITTLE FEEDBACK FROM THAT. WE DID PROMOTE IT AND REACH TOUT TO THE PRINCIPALS OF THE SCHOOLS. >> THAT WAS ONE OF MY CONCERNS. THERE WAS NO PARTICIPATION AND I KNOW IT'S HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE AND ANSWER TO SOME OF THESE SURVEYS BUT ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH PARKING THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND WHEN LOOKING AT CITYWIDE PARKING AND ON STREET PARKING, THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE DEVELOPED IN A WAY THAT WAS FOR THE PUBLIC. I GUESS SOMEBODY HAS A COMMENT AND I'LL WAIT UNTIL THEY FINISH SO I CAN FINISH MY COMMENTS. >> GO AHEAD. >> IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WERE DIFFERENT FORMS OF THE SURVEY. WE TRIED TO GET AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS WE FROM COULD FROM THE DIFFERENT USERS. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. >> I SAW THAT WHERE IT SAID TO SKIM THIS SECTION IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ABOUT DOWNTOWN DORAL. IT STILL WAS A SMALL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT DOWNTOWN DORAL. AGAIN, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO GET PARTICIPATION, SURVEY PARTICIPATION BUT MAYBE DOING A LITTLE MORE FACE-TO-FACE WITH PEOPLE VERSUS JUST VIRTUAL. ACTUALLY TAKING TIME TO GO OUT INTO SOME OF THESE CENTERS OR AREAS AND ASKING FOR MORE PARTICIPATION ON A FACE-TO-FACE BASIS WHETHER IT BE A SURVEY USING AN IPAD, STILL USING TECHNOLOGY BUT MORE WHERE YOU HAVE THE PERSON IN FRONT OF YOU. SOMETIMES PEOPLE GET THESE IN E-MAIL AND THINK JUNK E-MAIL AND NOT OPEN IT. WITH WITH WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITHIN THE CITY WE'RE CONSTANTLY GETTING COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT AND I GUARANTEE YOU THERE'S A PORTION OF PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T KNOW THIS SURVEY TOOK PLACE. >> WE'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND FOR NEXT TIME. >> ANYBODY ELSE? I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL LET ME SAY SOMETHING ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE MENTIONED. I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD BE LOOKED AT CITYWIDE. LOOKING AT THE COMMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED AND WERE RESPONDED TO I SEE A LOT OF NOT IN MY BACKYARD COMMENTS. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU I HOPE THAT WHICHEVER WAY YOU SEEK THE COMMENTS THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO TAKE THE ONES THAT ARE REALLY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO THE ONES THAT ARE I HAVE A PROBLEM IN MY AREA, YOU KNOW I HAD TWO PARKING SPOTS AND NOW MY KIDS CAME BACK HOME AND THEY ARE LIVING IN THE BASEMENT AND THEY ARE THIRTY YEARS OLD AND DON'T HAVE A PARKING SPOT. TRUTHFULLY, SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE NOT THINGS THAT ARE PLANNING ISSUES AS MUCH AS OTHER ISSUES. THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO SAY AS FAR AS THE SCHOOLS ARE CONCERNED, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINAL NUMBER IS BUT PROBABLY OVER FIFTY PLUS OF THE FINAL NUMBER OF KIDS IN OUR SCHOOLS ARE NONRESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DORAL AND I SEE THAT AS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ISSUE, HOW DO YOU GET THESE PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THE SCHOOLS IN THE MORNING AND AN AFTERNOON. IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ADJACENT PARKING LIKE RONALD REAGAN HIGH SCHOOL, THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING BUT EVEN THEN AS I UNDERSTOOD THIS, THIS WAS GOING TO BE REALLY PARKING THAT THE CITY HAS. UNLESS I WAS MISTAKING. THE PARKING STUDY WAS GOING TO FOCUS ON THE THINGS THAT WE COULD CONTROL, EXAMPLE, EIGHTY-FOURTH AVENUE WHICH WE HAVE APPROVED, BEAUTIFIED AND THE PEOPLE ARE PARKING IN THE SCHOOL THEN YOU CAN TURN THAT INTO PUBLIC PARKING NORTH OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA. I WILL POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS. I SEE DOWNTOWN DORAL THAN I SEE THE AREA BY LEGACY PARK UP NORTH. UP THERE I THINK SOME OF THE PERMIT PARKING BY RESIDENTS AND BY THE WAY, I WOULDN'T EVEN EXTEND JUST TO COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. I WOULD EXTEND IT JUST TO RESIDENTS BECAUSE I BELIEVE PEOPLE PARKING AT LEGACY PARK DON'T LIVE THERE. THEY ARE JUST PARKING THEIR VEHICLES THERE. I SEE THAT DIFFERENTLY THAN DOWNTOWN DORAL OR SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS. SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY IF THOSE TRUCKS SOMETIMES SIT IN THE MIDDLE FOR A LITTLE WHILE WHEN NOBODY IS DRIVING DOWN THAT ROAD, I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE THE BUSINESS ENGINE NECESSARILY OVERHAULED OVERNIGHT WITHOUT THERE BEING SOME SOLUTION THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT GOING BACK TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP, SOME OF THEM, WELL WE CAN ESTABLISH RULES THAT HAVE HAPPENED WITHIN PRIVATE BUSINESS AREAS, WE'RE MUCH MORE LIMITED THAN WE ARE IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY WHICH WE HAVE A MUCH GREATER SAY IN. MY FIRST AND MOST IMMEDIATE CONCERN WOULD BE THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. I CAN TELL YOU THAT REGARDLESS OF DOWNTOWN DORAL OR ISSUES HERE OR CITY PLACE. THE LEGACY PARK AREA WHEN I GO SATURDAY MORNING TO PLAY BASKETBALL AT LEGACY PARK AND I SEE ALL OF THESE CARS THAT HAVE BEEN PARKED OVERNIGHT AND THEY ARE NOT JUST CARS BY THE WAY. MANY TIMES THEY ARE TRUCKS OR THE LADY THAT CUTS THE DOGGY HAIR. YOU KNOW? SPEAKING OF SOME OF THE RESIDENTS UP THERE, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND SOME OF THEM WOULD BE OPEN TO GETTING ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR THEIR RESIDENTS WITH A PERMIT PROCESS, I'M MORE CONCERNS WITH SOME OF THOSE ISSUES UP THERE. LET ME REPHRASE THAT, I'M AS CONCERNED WITH THOSE AREAS AS I AM WITH DOWNTOWN DORAL BUT I DO CAUTION US AS WE MOVE FORWARD THAT TO FIND AN ACROSS THE SOLUTION FOR THE FINGER LEGS, THE NORTHWEST DADE AREA, A SHOPPING CENTER IN DOWNTOWN DORAL ARE FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE FOR A LONG TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT FITS, IS THE RIGHT FIT FOR EVERYBODY SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD I HOPE THAT WE LISTEN TO THE PROFESSIONALS. YOU KNOW, CORAL GABLES AND SOUTH MIAMI I VISIT PRETTY OFTEN. BOTH ARE SIMILAR BUT ALSO A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN THE SENSE THAT THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONCENTRATED THAN WE ARE IN CERTAIN AREAS. HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT WE SHOULD START DEFINITELY LOOKING AT. BUT I HOPE WHEN YOU COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL THAT WE DON'T RUSH THE JUDGMENT AND TRY TO FIND A SOLUTION WHERE WE ALL TRY TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY AND THEN NOBODY IS HAPPY BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE ROLE OF ELECTED OFFICIALS. SO I ACTUALLY AM SURPRISED YOU HAD THAT MANY COMMENTS EVEN THOUGH A LOT OF THEM ARE LIKE I SAID, APPARENTLY VERY PERSONAL TO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE RESPONDING. THERE ARE SOME THAT WE CAN DO VERY LITTLE ABOUT INCLUDING SOME OF THESE CLOSED COMMUNITIES AND SOME MAKE REFERENCE TO THEIR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, SOME MAKE REFERENCE TO SCHOOLS, IN PARTICULAR REGAN. BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO MOVE TOWARD A SOLUTION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEP WILL BE. OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE MUCH MORE BUY-IN FROM THE DEVELOPER IN DOWNTOWN DORAL THAN YOU WOULD FROM ANOTHER AREA BECAUSE IT'S ONE DEVELOPER AS OPPOSED TO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER POTENTIALLY OWNED PARKS. LAST NIGHT I WAS OUT FOR DINNER FOR MY DAUGHTER'S BIRTHDAY. THERE WERE A LOT OF TRUCKS PARKED THERE AND IT DIDN'T BOTHER ME BECAUSE AT THAT TIME OF THE NIGHT IF THEY ARE THERE FOR BUSINESS I HAVE NO PROBLEM BUT IF THEY ARE PARKING THERE AND DOING SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. WHY DON'T THEY WORK ON A 24 HOUR CYCLE WITH THE AIRPORT LIKE OTHER CITIES IN ORDER TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC BUT ALSO IMPROVE THE PARKING. I UNDERSTAND THAT NUMBER ONE, MOST THINGS ARE CLOSED AT THAT TIME AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TRUCKS THAT GO TO THAT AREA. SO I HOPE YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY BUT I'D LIKE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE NEED TO FIND A SOLUTION. WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR EVERYBODY. THAT MUCH I CAN TELL YOU. BY THE WAY, I THINK YOU ARE LIMITED IN SOME OF THE THINGS YOU CAN FORCE PRIVATE OWNERS TO DO. I DON'T THINK YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO RETROACTIVELY ENFORCE RULES THAT MAY BE BENEFICIAL TO A SELECT FEW OVER THE ACTIVE MANY. SO, YOU KNOW, I HOPE -- THIS IS A GOOD FIRST STEP. I HAD ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. WHAT ARE THE KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS BECAUSE YOU MADE REFERENCE IN THERE TO HAVE KPI'S? DOWN THEM OR DO YOU HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO FIRST? >> RIGHT. ONCE YOU HAVE A PROGRAM AND IT'S NOT REALLY MEASURING SOMETHING JUST TO MEASURE IT BUT WHAT IS OUR GOAL? THE FINANCIAL HEALTH OF THE PARKING? THE PARKING TURNOVER, ARE WE RECEIVING THAT THE WAY WE WANT IT TO BE? IT'S NOT A MEASURE BUT RATHER A GOAL OF THE ORGANIZATION. CUSTOMER SERVICE LEVELS, MAYBE THAT'S AN INDICATOR. WE WANT TO BE COMPLIANT BUT YET SERVE THE CUSTOMER'S NEEDS SO IT'S OVERARCHING WORKING TOWARDS THAT GOAL. WE ALWAYS TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM IS PUNITIVE. THAT'S THE TOUGHEST PART SO INDICATORS LIKE THAT, HOW WELL THE SYSTEM IS DOING AND LIKE YOU HAD INDICATED BEFORE SOME OF THE REVENUE THAT'S GENERATED WILL YES PAY FOR THE PROGRAM BUT ALSO ENHANCE THE PROGRAM. IF IT MEANS BUILDING ADDITIONAL PARKING OR CHANGING TECHNOLOGIES BUT KEEPING THE PROGRAM MOVING. >> I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH WITH THAT. THE PUNITIVE IS NOT THE INTENT OF THIS. IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IN THIS AREA ON WEEKENDS IN FRONT OF CITY HALL, RIGHT IN FRONT OF CITY HALL, TOWARD THE SOUTH, THERE SEEMS TO BE PEOPLE THERE THAT ARE NOT AT PUBLICS OR HERE THAT PARK THERE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY ARE LIVING IN DOWNTOWN DORAL. I'M PRESUMING THEY DO BUT I MAY BE WRONG. >> RIGHT. >> I CAN TELL YOU THAT UP NORTH IT'S MY NON INFORMED GUESS THAT SOME OF THE TRUCKS THAT ARE PARKING THERE BECAUSE I'VE RECEIVED COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS ARE NOT EVEN DORAL RESIDENTS. THEY ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL PARK THEIR TRUCK THERE AND PICK THEM UP IN THE MORNING OR EVEN BY LEGACY PARK SO THAT'S WHY I DO THINK IF WE GO TO A PERMITTING ASPECT IN A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE, QUESTION WANT TO GUARANTEE THOSE ARE DORAL RESIDENTS? >> THERE WILL BE A PROCESS TO DETERMINE WHAT THE CRITERIA ARE TO GET A PERMIT TO PARK IN THOSE AREAS. THEY CAN DO IT BECAUSE THEY CAN IF THEY ARE IN VIOLATION NOW BUT ONCE YOU ESTABLISH THAT CRITERIA TO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM AND KEEP AN EYE ON THINGS. >> I THINK THE EXAMPLE THAT REALLY DRIVES ME A LITTLE BIT INSANE AND THIS IS NOT JUST IN DORAL, IT'S THE HANDICAPPED PARKING. YOU KNOW, IT APPEARS THAT MIAMI DADE COUNTY IS THE CAPITAL OF DOCTORS GIVING OUT HANDICAPPED PARKING STICKERS TO VERY HEALTHY MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE COMING OUT OF GYMS. I'M FLABBERGASTED WHEN I SEE SOMEBODY COMING OUT OF A LAMBO THAT ARE ABUSING THIS AND THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE BECAUSE THEN WHEN THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED IT CAN'T USE IT. I KNOW IT'S ABUSED. I KNOW ONE GENTLEMEN WHO HAS FOUR, SIX FOUR TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY-FOUR FOUNDS. CLAIMS HE PLAYED COLLEGE FOOTBALL, FOUR HANDICAPPED STICKERS ON HIS FOUR DIFFERENT VEHICLES SO THAT'S A PET PEEVE FOR ME BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT DON'T GET TO USE IT BUT I'D LIKE TO AVOID AS MUCH AS I CAN. I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE AND THIS IS WHERE DORAL ARE VERY CREATIVE, ENTREPRENEURISH WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET A PERMIT AND PASS IT ONTO THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING BUILT IN AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED YOU HOW YOU MEASURE THOSE KPI'S BECAUSE THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS REALLY, I THINK, TO BRING MORE ORDER, SENSE AND LESS ANARCHY TO BEN KNIT THOSE PRIMARILY WHO LIVE AND WORK WITH HERE BUT ALSO WHO VISIT. >> IT'S MANAGING THE ASSET YOU HAVE WHICH IS A TREMENDOUS ASSET WHICH IS ON STREET PARKING. THE ADA ISSUES, THE HANDICAPPED LOBBY IS REALLY FOR LIMITING THE NUMBER OF PERMITS THAT GET DISHED OUT SO EASILY BECAUSE YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT, THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT, IT'S NOT AVAILABLE FOR THEM EITHER. SO HAVING A REVIEW OF THE PROGRAM AND THERE'S SOME OTHER RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU CAN LOOK FOR WHEN YOU ARE ENFORCING ADA PARKING BUT JUST HAVING A DEDICATED SYSTEM TO REVIEW IT ON A REGULAR BASIS WILL HELP. >> WELL WE LOOK AT THOSE KPI'S AND I HOPE YOU GUYS CAN GUIDE US IN WHAT THEY WOULD BE SO WE CAN ACTUALLY, WHEN AND IF IT IS IMPLEMENTED, THE ABILITY TO REALLY MEASURE THINGS CORRECTLY BECAUSE I MEAN, SURVEYS ARE GREAT BUT I LOOK AT THIS AND I THINK YOU ACTUALLY HAD A HIGH RESPONSE IN COMPARISON TO WHAT WE NORMALLY GET AND SECOND OF ALL, MOST OF THOSE RESPONSES SEEM TO BE -- THE OLD WENDY'S COMMERCIAL SAID WHERE'S THE BEEF? WHERE'S MY BEEF ON THIS? WHEN I LOOK AT IT IF I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF CITYWIDE HOLISTIC APPROACH I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING -- THE COMMENTS DON'T NECESSARILY ADD. MOST OF THEM -- SOME OF THEM ARE VERY CLEAR THAT I AGREE WITH. LACK OF LAW ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY RESPECTS THE RULES, ESPECIALLY THE NEW RESIDENTS. THAT'S A GREAT COMMENT. NO PUBLIC PARKING AT ALL. GATED COMMUNITY. NOT ENOUGH PARKING. CONSTRUCTION FOR TWO CAR PARKING, NOT HAVING TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE. WHAT DO YOU MEAN? YOU CAN'T. IF ANITA COMES BACK AND THEY ARE THIRTY LIVING AT HOME, PEOPLE DON'T RESPECT. I GOT IT. I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT ONE BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT SOME OF THESE COMMENTS ACTUALLY -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS -- WE TEND TO GO LIKE POLITICIANS DO, MEASURING THE WIND LIKE IT WAS NFL KICKOFF AND I'D RATHER NOT DO THAT. I'D RATHER HAVE A RESULT THAT HELPS THE CITY EVEN WHEN I'M GONE OR WHEN ALL OF US ARE GONE. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. I'M SORRY. FOR OUR STAFF. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL KNOW THE ANSWER. RITA, DON'T WE CURRENTLY HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE THAT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES TO PARK ON THE ON STREET PARKING OR IS IT JUST NOT ENFORCEABLE? >> CAN I HAVE EDGAR ANSWER THAT QUESTION. CAN I PHONE A FRIEND? CAN I PHONE A FRIEND? >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND HONORABLE COUNCIL. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, VICE MAYOR, NO, AT CURRENT MOMENT WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE. >> THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE WE'VE GONE OUT AND CITED FOR THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. >> WE HAVE BUT WE HAVE TO BASICALLY MONITOR IF A VEHICLE IS PARKED IN A PUBLIC PARKING SPOT FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. >> I ACTUALLY WAS WITH ONE OF THE OFFICERS AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THEY MANAGED TO TICKET. THEY WERE PARKED TOO CLOSE TO THE CURB OR PARKED TOO CLOSE TO THE STRIPING. IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THAT'S WHEN YOU WERE ALLOWED TO ENFORCE. THE ONLY AREA. >> SO AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE WITH RESIDENTIAL PARKING PERMITS WE WOULD NOT BE ALLOWING COMMERCIAL VEHICLES TO APPLY EVEN IF IT IS A RESIDENT WHO OWNS A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE? >> YES. THAT'S CORRECT. I COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION. YES. >> WITH SIGNS ON IT? >> I'M SORRY. CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION. >> ANY VEHICLE WITH SIGNS ON IT. >> ANY VEHICLE WITH ADVERTISING ON IT IS CONSIDERED A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE. IT DOESN'T HAVE BE A VAN OR A BIG TRUCK. IT COULD BE ANY VEHICLE. >> SO THE ORDINANCE WOULD DEFINE WHAT A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE WOULD BE. WE'D HAVE A DEFINITION OR WHAT A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE WOULD BE. >> OKAY. >> USE THE ON STREET FOR SOMETHING? I MEAN SOME HAVE THEM ON THEIR ACTUAL VEHICLE. >> QUICK QUESTION ON COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, DON'T THEY HAVE TO -- ISN'T IT A VIOLATION AND MAYBE THIS IS BETTER FOR THE POLICE TO ANSWER. DON'T COMMERCIAL VEHICLES THAT ARE LICENSED HAVE TO HAVE SIGNAGE THAT SHOWS THEY THEIR LICENSING ON THE VEHICLE. >> DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF INDUSTRY IT IS. >> AND IT CAN'T BE REMOVABLE. THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE MAGNET. IT CAN'T BE IF YOU HAVE A LICENSE. >> YES. FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE THOSE VEHICLES REMOVED OR TOWED. EVEN THOUGH WE DO HAVE A PROCESS FOR VEHICLES THAT ARE CONSIDERED ABANDONED ON EVEN PRIVATE PROPERTY BUT WE DO HAVE OUR PROCESS. IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO COURT AND WE WOULD HAVE TO IMPOSE DAILY FINES. >> BY THE WAY, AMAZON IS DOING IT RIGHT NOW. >> WE HAVE A FEW CASES AGAINST AMAZON AT THE MOMENT. >> I KNOW NINETIETH STREET THERE'S A PART WHERE CARS HAVE BEEN AND COMMERCIAL VEHICLES HAVE BEEN TICKETED BECAUSE IT'S NOT EVEN OFF STREET PARKING. THAT IS A CLOSED ROAD AND THEY ARE USING THAT IS STAGE TRUCKS THERE AT NIGHT BUT THAT'S NOT A PARKING SPACE PERIOD. THOSE HAVE BEEN TICKETED IN THE PAST. I KNOW THAT. >> THEY HAVE BEEN CITED BY US. AS FAR AS I'M AWAY THERE HASN'T BEEN MUCH OF AN ISSUE RECENTLY THERE WITH THE PARKING OF VEHICLES. THEY HAD MET THE DEFINITION OF ABANDON VEHICLE ON A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY SO THE PLAQUING ON THAT VEHICLE RESOLVED THAT ISSUE BUT WE CAN CHECK AGAIN. >> ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, QUARRIES? >> AS YOU WERE TALKING I WAS THINKING ABOUT GABLES AND ONCE AGAIN, WE COME TO DORAL AND DORAL IS SO COMPLICATED BECAUSE OUR ISSUES ARE SO DIVERSE. I MEAN CORAL GABLES AND SOUTH MIAMI REALLY DEAL WITH DOWNTOWN AREA. EVERYTHING ELSE IS MAINLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THEY HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING IN FRONT OF THEIR HOMES AND DORAL HAS ISSUES AT EVERY LEVEL. THE INDUSTRIAL LEVEL AND SOME AREAS OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THE COMMUNITIES ARE JUST USUALLY BIG HOMES. THEY DON'T HAVE CURBSIDE PARKING LIKE THEY DO IN CORAL GABLES SO IT'S AN ISSUE IN EVERY COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE DRIVE AND MY KIDS WERE LIVING AT HOME, IT WAS A PROBLEM AND LUCKILY I HAD A LONG DRIVEWAY SO I WAS ABLE TO PUT TWO CARS, ONE CAR BEHIND THE OTHER BUT THAT WAS A NIGHTMARE BECAUSE YOU HAD TO MOVE A CAR TO GET OUT AND THAT STILL EXISTS. IT'S NOT EASY. WE'RE A COMPLICATED CITY. >> WE'RE VERY DIFFERENT FROM THESE OTHER CITIES AND EVEN THOUGH GABLE HAS A SMALL INDUSTRIAL AREA, WE'RE NOT SO SMALL BUT NEAR US-1, WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SET A PRECEDENT. WE'VE GOT TO DO WHAT WE'VE GOT TO DO. EVERYBODY ASKS US ABOUT WEST IN. WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT LUXURY. WE'VE HAD TO SINCE DAY ONE DEAL WITH INDUSTRIAL ISSUES, BUSINESSES, IF YOU LOOK AT A SHOPPING CENTER TODAY AND EVEN THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN RE FURBISHED, WHERE THE WALMART IS AT, IT'S A LOT GREENER THAN IT WAS BEFORE WE WERE A CITY AND THAT WAS A REQUEST FOR LANDSCAPING FOR THESE PUBLIC SHOPPING CENTER. YOU GO TO NINETY-SEVENTH AND THERE'S PARKING SPOTS THAT I DON'T THINK US AS A COUNCIL COULD FIT IN. >> 80% OR 90% OF OUR CITY WAS ZONED BEFORE WE WERE A CITY. SO MOST OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS STUFF, I MEAN BESIDES THE DOWNTOWN AREAS, MOST OF THE REST WAS ZONED BEFORE A CITY SO WE INHERITED IT AND TRIED TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO IT AND STILL ARE. >> EVEN OUR SCHOOLS, IT'S UNIQUE TO A HAVE A MUNICIPALITY WITH FAMILIES WHERE 50% OF THE STUDENTS ARE NOT RESIDENTS OF THAT CITY YET PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT LACK OF SCHOOLS. WE'RE A VERY DIFFERENT BIRD IN THAT RESPECT. NO OFFENSE TO THE BIRDS. ALRIGHT. >> I KNOW THAT WE HAVE REPEATED THIS BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. I DON'T KNOW IF RITA OR ATTORNEY OR MR. MANAGER CAN CLARIFY THAT WE AS A COUNCIL WHEN IT COMES TO HOA'S, CONDOMINIUMS, PRIVATE PROPERTIES, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WE DON'T HAVE JURISDICTION WHEN IT COMES TO THAT TO CONTROL THE PARKING OR TO IMPOSE WHEN IT COMES TO VALET PARKING OR THE AMOUNT OF VISITORS. I MEAN I KNOW THAT WHEN IT'S APPROVED BY VISITORS BUT THE WAY IT IS MANAGED BY THE HOA'S. >> THAT'S CORRECT COUNCILWOMAN. ONCE IT'S IN HOA AS OH LONG AS THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WE'RE LIMITED. >> ONE LAST THING I'LL SAY IF THOUGH WE'VE TACKLED DIFFERENT AREAS TODAY WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A HOLISTIC SOLUTION. IF THERE ARE POTENTIAL PILOT PROGRAMS THAT YOU GUYS WOULD SUGGEST AS EXPERTS I HOPE THE NEXT TIME WE TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE YOU LET US KNOW WHAT THEY COULD BE AND WHAT YOU WOULD SUGGEST. BECAUSE IF THERE IS SOME POTENTIAL PROGRESS THAT WE CAN MAKE TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE WORKING FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME THEN IT'S SOMETHING WE MIGHT BE OPEN TO. WE HAVEN'T EVEN TOUCHED UPON THE MORE -- I'M NOT FOR CREATING A PARKING AUTHORITY BY THE WAY. IF OTHER ENTITIES HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO SIMPLIFY IT UNLESS YOU'VE CONVINCED ME OTHERWISE BUT I THINK THE KEY IS TO NOT NECESSARILY BE PUNITIVE IN NATURE BUT MORE PRODUCTIVE. OKAY. SO WE'LL WAIT FOR YOUR NEXT -- YOU'LL LEAD US ON THE NEXT STEPS WITH THE ANSWERS TO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS YOU'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL. >> YES. >> ALRIGHT. THAT'S IT UNLESS THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE. QUESTIONS? >> NO THE LAST THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT WHILE THERE'S MANY THINGS WE CANNOT CONTROL FROM THE DAIS THAT THERE IS ENFORCEMENT AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST POWER THAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR SIDE SO ANY PRIVATE PROPERTY ISSUES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, USE THE ENFORCEMENT. IF YOU DON'T REPORT A PROBLEM WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE PROBLEM AND CODE COMPLIANCE AND OUR POLICE OFFICERS HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB RESPONDING TO THESE ISSUES JUST LIKE THE PARKING SPOTS IN PLAZAS BEING TAKEN WITH ILLEGAL HANDICAPPED PARKING SO IS MAKE SURE IF YOU HAVE CERTAIN CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT YOU NEED MAKE SURE YOU REACH OUT TO THE CITY BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY TO TACKLE THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE. >> THAT'S A SHORT TRANSLATION, THIS COUNCIL CANNOT SOLVE EVERYBODY'S PROBLEMS. PLEASE GO TO THE RIGHT PERSON, IE, PUBLIC WORKS, POLICE, CO-COMPLIANCE AND THERE'S THE ADMINISTRATION TO OUR RIGHT. WAVE. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MADAME CLERK, GO AHEAD. >> I HAVE ONE MORE THING. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU TOM TOMORROW. TOMORROW IS OUR MAYORS BIRTHDAY. SO BEST OF DAY TO YOU TOMORROW. TWO, TWENTY, TWENTY. >> THAT'S RIGHT. I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M GLAD TO BE HERE AND THANK THE RESIDENTS FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AND ALL OF YOU BEING ABLE TO SERVE WITH ALL OF YOU, THE ADMINISTRATION AND ALL OF THE RESIDENTS AND GUYS LIKE MR. CHRIST, WHO HAS BEEN HERE. [ADJOURNED]