2026-2027 Special Council Meeting on Leadership Vote

>> is 4 o'clock that we have or need a quorum. Good. All right. Good afternoon and welcome my officially call this meeting to order. This is the 2026 2027 Special Council meeting on Leadership vote. So let's roll. Call. >> Council PRESIDENT, we have a quorum with 18 present. We have a team PRESIDENT. We don't We don't need any introductions. So I want to turn it over to the council secretary. Get us in order. Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT, this is the council leadership vote of MAY 26, 20. Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT, this is the City Council leadership vote of MAY. 26 2026. The council rules require paper ballots for leadership vote. You should all have your ballots in front of you. Council PRESIDENT Vote is first in the council. Vice-PRESIDENT Vote a second. The council PRESIDENT Will open the floor for nominations once the nominations are closed for PRESIDENT Designate, you can make your selection sign your ballot and legislative services staff will collect them. Each signed written ballots to be delivered to the council secretary who show read each ballot or early after all ballots have been received and shell total and announced the results thereof when no nominee for an office receives a majority on the first ballot, the 2 nominees receiving the highest number of votes shall be voted on on a second signed written ballot. All other nominees being dropped from consideration. In the event of a tie vote for the position of second nominee. The members involved in such tight Boselli immediately be voted on separately by all council members voting to break the tie with the person receiving the most votes there from being the second nominee. The process will be repeated for the council. Vice PRESIDENT Designate. Following the leadership votes for both offices of council PRESIDENT Designate and council vice PRESIDENT Designate the PRESIDENT Will extend the privilege of the floor to the newly elected officers. It turned the bag over to >> All right. Before we open the floor for nominations, us the past PRESIDENT College in the queue. Did you have a question? Before we open? All right. Yes, we got you. Okay. So I officially open the floor for nominations for the Office of City Council, PRESIDENT Dr Johnson, you're recognized. Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT colleagues, members of the council, first of all, it's good to be here today. I turned 50. I just got to say feels >> feels good. 3 years ago, I got to know the person I'm going to nominate as a friend. Nick Howland and I met him standing in line with royalty. Now to be clear, the royalty that we had been visiting that particular day have been passed on for more than a tribe millennium. We were at the King Tut exhibit surrounded by gold antiquity, breathtaking art in just an amazing experience. However, the other royal to that I stood with was our personal nominating his mother because even though we were in all of the artifacts, I got to know someone who was just as beautiful as the jewels and wonderful things that I saw. I met this woman in line and she asked me about my family. Told her about my mom who had passed away a few years before Tony had only been 3 years at the time when I was at it. Something inside me, she could tell that I had a moment when she asked me about my mother. Now anybody who's ever lost a mom knows that it is not an easy thing at all. Those moments come back. However, even though her son was there and daughter-in-law and the grandkids, she stood with me and stayed with me as we walked through the entire King Tut exhibit sharing anecdotes and laughing and just enjoying a really special moment. And at that moment she saw what I needed. I needed humanity. And I said to myself, as I walked away, that absolutely there is no way this kind of woman could have raised the bad sign. And I got to know her sign better year by year. And in these last 3 years, Nick, Howland has proven exactly who he said he was not some slogans earthy at steadiness and discipline and service. He's a Navy veteran and I could name all the things that he's done. The ship's he served on a businessman, husband, a father, raising sons that attend Duval County schools, a leader whose resume reads like a mission of driven excellence. Titles. And those things are not the most impressive. What impresses me about this individual and what I've come to buyer is that understands the difference between politics and purpose because anybody can win an argument. But real leadership is what it means to win. Trust. Anybody can dominate a headline. The real leadership is knowing how to hold the city together with the headlines fade. Now I'll be honest, Nick and I do not always agree. Let's just go ahead and set the room with that. He's a Republican. I'm a Democrat and their days we arrive at the same destination carrying maps and coming from different directions. But the beauty of mature leadership is that we don't have to agree on the how. But we certainly agree on the why. The goal is not for the party to win. The goal is for Jacksonville to rise and that's what I believe Nick Hausen will bring to this council coming forward. I saw it in our work we honored the legacy and memory of a woman who was taken away from us far too soon, Jonny MAY Chappelle. Nic showed something increasingly rare in public white life and the willingness to lead with conviction and compassion, even though it was something that happened long before we were both born. And let me say plainly in an era where public service has become what we know is a blood sport. The cause remained composed. Weve all been called names up here. We all know the names that we've been called in. You know, I've heard Nic smile at those names. Every last one of us has had those issues. But you see he has been pragmatic and disciplined and smart and patients. Politics will test your patience, your character and sometimes your humanity itself. But this gentleman has found a way to preserve dignity in all of that and that we must respect Maya Angelou, the wonderful poet once said that people will forget it. How what you said they believe in. Forget what you did. But they will never forget how you made them feel. And, Nic, you allow us on this council. As PRESIDENT. He lets us feel enough to be seen because there's something about a disciplined, elegant, sophisticated way of being seen. And he makes sure that he supports that even though he MAY not agree. Now we have 19 people up here who get to make changes and decisions for more than a million we do and make decisions that change lives. And history is watching at well as what kind of leaders we choose to become. But what I know is that the kind of leader that Nick is, I believe he will carry forth what presidents before. As we look at that back Wall council PRESIDENT, your picture will be added to a very soon as we look at that wall in the legacy of presidents of this council since 1968. I believe that Nick Houghton is the right person to lead us into this next movement and generation of what it means to leave the city council. So today, MISTER PRESIDENT, with enormous respect, a deep admiration and sincere belief in the future of this institution I proudly place into nomination. My friend, my colleague in the current vice PRESIDENT Of the Jacksonville City Council, Nick Howland to serve as the 2026 27 PRESIDENT Of the City Council because I believe his leadership will challenge us to be the best versions of ourselves. And when we challenge to be the best Jacksonville gets even better. Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT. All right. Thank you, Doug Johnson. We have a >> motion on that. We have a second. >> council pres. I rise to second around nation. >> Thank you as a second give your time. He base it to your time. There's 2 minutes on the clock. We have at least for more possible nominations for first and second. So, you know, you want to take the time and it's his birthday. So I gave him some leeway. So everyone else doing a nomination or second are going to 2 minutes. Thanks. >> I've crossed out the middle section that had all the nice tough about Nick and it's all get to the point a second nomination. It's an exciting day for the Holland Family. Nick just came here from Stan College preps. Graduation say your son, Lucas has the Mustang grad like myself like Joe, the number of others. We have Stan grads and dads in here. So congratulations to Lucas. And that really is a true measure of a father, the success of their sons. And so just so awesome to see Ben and Lucas graduate from standing now going to the University of Florida, which is like harder to get into Harvard then then when I graduate stand. But Councilmember Johnson said a lot of the things I was going to say. But one of the things I just want to say is that you really are the common experience leader that I think we need right now. Your Navy background, you're the right guy to bring us home orders when MAY need some course corrections. And I'm just really looking forward to the leadership that you're going to bring to this council in the next year or so with that. I second the nomination. >> All right. So we have nomination and a second for Nick Allen for the Office of PRESIDENT. Do we have any other nominations? Councilmember near not recognize we have about its going past him out. Well, again, those collected want to thank everyone for joining us today and never seen so many government affairs lobbyist and one place at the same time. Welcome. We're glad to have you. Sector. >> Councilmember Boylan votes. Nick Allen. Councilmember Clark Murray, McAllen. Councilmember Salem, McAllen. Councilmember Diamond McAllen. Councilmember Gaffney, Jr, Nick Allen. Councilmember Freeman, Nick Allen. Council member gang McAllen. Councilmember Carlucci, Joe Carlucci, Nick Allen. Council member Holland McAllen. Councilmember Carrico Nick Allen. Councilmember areas. Nick Allen. Councilmember Lane Miller, Nick Allen. Councilmember Pittman. Mcallen. Councilmember White Nick Allen. Councilmember Morrow McAllen. Councilmember Johnson, Nick Holland. Councilmember Palou. So no vote. Council member Matt Carlucci, McAllen. One announced the winner. MR. PRESIDENT by a vote of 18. Votes in favor, no votes against and one abstention Council vice PRESIDENT. How and he's been chosen as council PRESIDENT Elect. We're going recognize Mont vice PRESIDENT Elect new PRESIDENT Elect and vice PRESIDENT And the count. >> Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT, thank you, colleagues. I'm honored to have earned your so deeply honored and rockman. And will those words mean the world to me? Thank you so much. You'll hear more. My plans in the JUNE. 25 insulation. My aspirations are clear. In a time of revenue, uncertainty in fiscal pressure, we focus on the core public safety infrastructure, Essential City services while also advancing strategies that make Jacksonville the best city in the southeast to relocate a business and for families to live work and play. That requires financial discipline, spending smarter and sharing resources go where they have the greatest impact on quality of life. Looking for options to keep growing without using taxpayer dollars. You'll learn more about that during the installation will also prioritize accountability and transparency. So all voices are heard. And so governor works better for the people. It serves in particular. That means to see packs. You'll see the cpac skit a seat at the table and you'll learn more about that at the installation. Most of all will focus on job creation over the next year. Not government driven job creation, but the Milton Friedman model creating conditions for private investment and business growth. That is that has guided my work on council so far, including my very first bill in 20. 22 and my efforts to accelerate great painters, space industry jobs at Cecil Field. That matters today. More than ever because we do have an affordability crisis. The cost of living has skyrocketed. We can't control prices, but there are lots of things we can do to spur economic development, to create jobs and to help our constituents afford to feed their families and say in their homes because people are truly struggling. If you give a family meal, you feed them for a night. If you give a family a job, you feed them for a career and the jobs are indeed coming. Last thing I wanted to bring up. I want to ensure that this council this year operates as a team. I truly believe a 17 to vote is better than the 10 9 Vo because it means we've worked together. I don't want to force outcomes. I want to build them through discussion and through consensus. Even in an election year. That will be a clear objective of mind over the next year. And that's what this city deserves. So the installation will be JUNE 25th that 05:00pm here in the chambers followed by a reception at the j You College of Law. I'm a Navy veteran. This is a Navy town and you can expect the Navy to be featured that evening fitting as we approach this nation's 200 and 50th birthday. So thank you again to all of you for the trust you placed in me. And I look forward to a fantastic council here. Congratulations. PRESIDENT Elect Allen. Well done, sir. >> All right. We have a tight schedule we have left to do so we're going to move on to the count given to add before we open up the floor for nominations for the Office of Vice PRESIDENT, MR. PRESIDENT Alright, officially open up the floor for nominations for Vice PRESIDENT Pence. PRESIDENT White, you're recognized. Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT. Unless you're getting some time here, don't have a lot to say, but want to nominate Joe Carlucci. >> When I look out and already, it's also his 2 sons there. And that's how long known Joe. I actually knew him before you made him and his dad goes a long ways. And I want to nominate him and I wish I I could always long as Dr Johnson on Joe. I know that much about it, but I will. I'll say I'd like to nominate U.S. Vice PRESIDENT. Thank you. All right. We have a nomination to have a second. Second by councilmember areas. You're recognized. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I too want to nominate MR. Joe Carter, she has vice PRESIDENT For City Council for this upcoming year. First, all you look at the family out there behind in front of us right now. That's the epitome of of who Joe uc here, too, on the diets. Another good example of of who joys. One thing's for certain that Joe will put his heart out there for for not only for us, but also for the constituents him and first time him and I can I can I talk about this during one housing. The petition was when we are fighting those storage wars that we ultimately lost. But you know what? See new battle for your community for your district. Show me who you are. Your character. No matter. Who was it? Who are we up against? You still fall hard. And I just show me that kind of person that you will be leading us in the future as vice PRESIDENT, hoping one that the PRESIDENT So I have many more words to say about you, sir. But honestly, I'm just proud to be able to nominate you my second nomination for vice PRESIDENT. And I know if you were to become the vice PRESIDENT, you will do a heck of a job leading us alongside PRESIDENT Like town. Thank you, sir. >> All right. So we have a motion a second. So we have one nomination confirmed for Joe Carlucci, any other nominations. Mike Gay recognized. >> Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT, I'd like to nominate Chris Miller for Vice PRESIDENT. Appreciate your leadership abilities that you've demonstrated over the years that gotten on to know you but all that will be shorter than the chief white and in in my nomination here. But firmly believe in you and I believe you, you would uphold the position and be able to and be able to function as a vice PRESIDENT. And I have total Comet Ison you. Thank you, sir. >> All right. There's a nomination to have a second. Council member for. Freeman the queue for second is nomination. There's someone in the queue to second the nomination. Councilmember Boylan. >> Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT, I stand to second the nomination of Chris Miller. He reached out to be just a few minutes ago to ask me to do sometimes proud to do so. Chris, is a stand-up guy. I remember the first time that we drove my district together and it was a point. I'm moment of contention. You reached for, isn't it? Wasn't used to that mandate for sure, but he's a great guy. Think he cares a lot about the well-being of this council. And I think he would serve well. PRESIDENT Holland is capacity as his vice PRESIDENT. So I'm looking forward to seeing him being elected. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. Zoe officially have a nomination in a second for Chris Miller. Any other nominations? COUNCILMAN Freeman past PRESIDENT Freeman, you're recognized. Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT I rise with honor saying one. We have an outstanding list of candidates here. >> And can be more proud to serve with each of them. I am fortunate to have been asked by one of them to nominate a man with grade pleasure. I will do so because he is a good man. I stand to nominate Councilmember Ken Morrow. He's a member, obviously of this body. And I did not come to this lightly as he's a leader who brings integrity, steady judgment and a genuine commitment to serving every resident. Khan, who is a retired 5 time Award winning journalist husband, a father, a grandfather, a faith leader in his church has demonstrated these qualities repeatedly through service direction in through and cloud a vision for a stronger, more connect the community. Can a shown a deep understanding of the issues that matter most public safety responsible budgeting, transparent decision-making and opportunities that up with families in every district. He listens before he leaves any leads. One to believe that government must be accountable. Accessible and responsive. As we look ahead to the challenges and opportunities before us, we need a vice PRESIDENT Who can unite this council. Who believes in the power of collaboration supports effective governance, who has a heart to help guide our city with wisdom and fairness. I can is that person. As I reflect on it and I was just Googling. What was that saying is I'm a town that he'll kick in telling can and I'll just give you an example of my interaction with came when he was a reporter, not many of us up here. Can say that, you know, every encounter with the media has been a pleasure. One. And if you've tracked my journey in this space, you know, I have definitely grown. And it was during covid. And and the reporter asked to interview me right across the street and it was MR. Morrow. And he asked me about a very close friend who had passed away. It was a friend whom areas and I thought he was about to tell us all of the bad things that we've done in government and why we haven't done this and put mask here and this and that. And instead what he said to me spoke to my heart. And I'll never forget this council. Marla, can I say you should be the one running one day? And so great honor and pleasure. I am nominating that's tomorrow for Vice PRESIDENT. Thank you. I think you do have second. Councilor Lan rise to second. The nomination of Councilor Kim are to be our council. Vice PRESIDENT. >> Over the past 3 years of appreciating that new can admired his statement ship and the fact they always how he's going to vote and why issue. And there's never a doubt that can is on Jacksonville side in a tu committee meeting while back are implied. I was the cheapest personal counsel. I don't think he realized how much this compliment has gone to my head. We don't always agree on every fiscal matter, but we certainly disagree with civility. So it is my honor to nominate are to be our vice PRESIDENT. >> All right. So we have a formal nomination and a second for councilmember are so he is on the ballot. Well, point of order, MISTER Diamond, yet MISTER, a the chair of our meetings PRESIDENT. So. >> Rule 2.2 of 2 of the council rule says that every member of this body must vote on every question, quote, every question on, quote, yeah, and also rule 2.2 2. And therefore, I think for the election of council PRESIDENT Must be redone because a member chose to abstain with that one declaring with the conflict was I don't think there is. He has to vote and it has to be in the affirmative. Agree with If you would give us the opportunity finish the nominations on the Get Legal to Whisper in my ear. >> But point is received and we'll see how we proceed. So back to Morrow has been nominated any other nominations on the floor. COUNCILWOMAN Pittman, you're recognized. >> It is indeed an honor for me to place into nomination. The name of COUNCILMAN Doctor Ekman Johnson for vice president of the Jacksonville City Council and also celebrating its 50th birthday today. You know, I just like to say his leadership is about transition in navigating without losing purpose. It is about being inclusive and moving conversation and legislation that will keep our government working and getting to the finish line. I've known rockman for more than 40 years long before the title of Doctor Long before the television appearance is and long before you were elected by the people. I've had the opportunity to watch your journey firsthand. And I think now is the time. One thing I can say without hesitation as Dr Johnson has been doing the work in the community for years and now and city council and committees such as t e u Use e by. Planning Commission the Library Board of Trustees liaison for jta Florida League of Cities. Mayor Council a fitness somewhere. Wellness. And throughout his career, he's been a communicator. That has been you will house and you got gifts. And educator and advocate who is the Bridge builder. Leadership is about listening. Finding common ground and hoping the council. Work together. And come up with solutions, which she is excellent candidate to do that. In addition, he is a champion for neighborhoods. He supports economic development opportunities. He elevates culture and history and consistently worked to ensure that government remains connected to the people we serve. He comes prepared. He does his homework. He make sure that he gets the job done. And coming. To getting his homework done. Trust me. If there's research to be done I think we all know Dr Rotman Johnson has already done the research for these reasons, colleagues and with great confidence in his character, integrity and commitment to public servants. I proudly nominate Dr Robin Johnson, vice PRESIDENT Of the Jacksonville City Council. All right. To have second. Councilmembers. I thank you, MR. PRESIDENT, I rise to also second the nomination for. >> Rodman Johnson has our city council vice PRESIDENT. And while it sounds conflicting, you know, I just talked about Joe Carlucci here. We have another gentleman that I truly admire. I have a list of reasons why to 2 seconds nomination. Let me tell you one thing. Being in politics is all about being Republican or Democrat being in public in Pollack is about doing the right thing. And this guy right here has one of the biggest hearts on council just like I talked about MISTER Joe Carlucci. He has a heart. I seen him. I do use e every time we're up here taking votes. He takes on his commuting to the green room to talk about what's going on, how to actually work the system. I work with the process out and figure out a solution for both parties. Whether is the applicant or community itself. All right. When you talk about us up here, we had this agreement pull times. But the way we disagree sometimes when when look at him, he takes it and he says, you know what? We can all agree to disagree. We could agree to disagree and he takes it like a man. But also he takes a win away where it makes you realize, okay, you know what? Maybe he does have a point. Maybe I should take the partisanship out of it. And Ashley, figure out what's going on. I said I have a list of reasons why to nominate him. But one of the biggest things that that really stood out to me is that, you know, during this process, I've been doing this for 3 years now and every year it's literally months or weeks leading up to this election that people start knocking on your door, say, hey, can we have a meeting? I haven't had call from him at all. On the contrary, he showed up Sunday number one day number one, showing his true character. All right. Which is why when a nominee him as vice PRESIDENT As well, too. And I I look forward to hopefully serving with all of you guys tonight and we'll see how this goes. My time is up. Thank you so much. All right. Thank you for that. We officially have a nomination and the second for Councilmember Dr Robin Johnson. >> So everyone has ballots in front of them reflecting the for councilmembers that were nominated and seconded. Let's go ahead and fill those out past. The men will have legislative services. Read your vote into the record. Anyone is wondering it was whispered in my ear that you do have to vote if you're PRESIDENT. This is a matter before the body. You have to vote. Can't abstain from this MR. Secretary. Councilmember Boylan can a >> Councilmember Clark Murray, Chris Miller. Councilmember Salem, Joe Carlucci. Councilmember Diamond, Chris Miller. Councilmember Gaffney JR. Councilmember Johnson. Councilmember Freeman. Chris Miller. Councilmember gay Chris Miller. Councilmember Joe Carlucci, Joe Carlucci. Council member Holland. Councilmember Carrico. Joe Carlucci. Councilmember areas, Joe Carlucci. Councilmember Lane. Chris Miller. Councilmember Miller, Chris Miller. Councilmember pavement. Councilmember Johnson. Councilmember White. Joe Carlucci. Councilmember Morrow. Councilmember Johnson. Bachmann, Johnson. Councilmember Palou. So. Rocky Johnson. Council member Matt Carlucci, Joe Carlucci. Councilmember Morrow. 2 votes. Councilmember Carlucci. 6 votes. Councilmember Johnson, 4 votes. Councilmember Miller, 7 votes. MR. PRESIDENT no nominee for the office of the 2026. 2027 Jacksonville City Council. Vice PRESIDENT Designate. >> Has received a majority on the first ballot. Councilmember Miller and Councilmember Joe Carlucci are the 2 nominees receiving the highest number of votes with Councilmember Miller receiving 7 and Councilmember Carlucci receiving 6. They shall be voted on on a second signed written ballot. All other nominees being dropped from consideration council members. You're being passed out ballots that reflect Councilmember Joe Carlucci and council member Miller to be voted upon for the 2026. 2027 Jacksonville City Council. Vice PRESIDENT Designate. >> MR. Secretary Redding. >> Councilmember Boylan Chris Miller. Council member Clark Murray, Chris Miller. Councilmember Salem. Joe Carlucci. Councilmember Diamond, Chris Miller. Councilmember Gaffney JR. Joe Carlucci. Councilmember Freeman, Chris Miller. Councilmember gay Chris Miller. Councilmember Joe Carlucci, Joe Carlucci. Council member Nick Allen, Chris Miller. Councilmember Kevin Carrico Joe Carlucci. Councilmember areas, Joe Carlucci. Councilmember Lane. Councilmember Miller. Chris Miller. Councilmember Pittman, Joe Carlucci. Councilmember White Joe Carlucci. Councilmember Morrow Chris Miller. Councilmember Johnson, Joe Carlucci. Council member Blue. So Joe Carlucci. Council member Matt Carlucci, Joe Carlucci. >> I know he's got a call from the boat. People. MR. PRESIDENT the official vote for. >> Council vice PRESIDENT Designate for 2026. 2027 Jacksonville City Council with 10 votes. Councilmember Joe Carlucci. To 9 votes. Councilmember Chris Miller. Now can clap. >> MISTER Vice PRESIDENT Doesn't need like, few words. >> All right. Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT. >> And that was a was intense. So all these other council presidents have had to 9 votes. >> I do not in the you don't ever do that again. But thank you. I'm so honored and grateful for this opportunity to help lead our council along Side Council, PRESIDENT Elect Allen want to say thank you to my wife and my boys for being here tonight. All right. And wave, thank you so much for your patience and your support through this. I couldn't have done this without you. To my fellow council members and colleagues who supported me and those who didn't. Thank you at this at this point and I want to commend also those who for this race. It's it's hard. And I commend all of your rent. But look, now it's time to build consensus. It's time to get back to work. And it's time 2. Like Council Vice PRESIDENT Allen said. We got it. We got to build this. We've got to bring this team back together. Go for in 2027 and that's pretty much it. Thank you so much. And I look forward to be your next vice PRESIDENT. All right. Back to the unfinished business. Mary, can you please explain the council rule and where we are at with the presidential election and the member who decided not to vote. >> Can do MISTER PRESIDENT. So as Councilmember Diamond previously indicated, during his point of order earlier on the last item rule 4.6 0, 2, of the council rules present present proof provides that each council member present at any meeting of the council shall vote on each question, put. >> And that you and I have discussed, MR. PRESIDENT is the ultimate interpreter of the council rules that you agree that a nomination for a council leadership position is a question being put to the council. Does this would apply. >> Later on it says unless a council member abstains from voting because of a conflict as set forth herein above which references the state statutory and ethical and other types of conflicts, voting complex than any minute councilmember who reprint refrains from giving his or her vote when required to do so by this rule shall be deemed to have given his or her vote in the affirmative. So there are a couple of quite a options that I put forward to you. MISTER PRESIDENT, you could take a motion to reconsider the election of the PRESIDENT Designate for the next council year and then take up the nomination and second again and then do another ballot or you could confirm with MISTER Police so that his vote would be considered a vote in the affirmative based on his initial about ballot, which he did not complete with a vote and move forward from there. >> This blue. So to save us all some time. Can you stay that say that are in the firm. And if we somehow I would like to do it a different way. I was I will save everyone time. I do want to speak after them. Thank you, I will save everyone time. Yes, I'm an affirmative, but I do want some of Once we get the comments. All right. So then that's official. We don't have to redo the vote. One come from. >> So, yes, MR. PRESIDENT and to confirm. >> Yeah, we're going to get your ballot. You can just correct that. All right. Now. >> So to confirm it was 19 votes in favor the nomination of. Council member Nick Allen has the PRESIDENT Designate. >> All right. Thank you for that. Manning. See someone in the queue that deserves to speak on this, even though we were trying to hold off on too many comments. But his son just got nominated in despite no love lost between impasse. PRESIDENT Carlucci, I would love to call on you and let you speak. And honor your son. I love you. Council PRESIDENT Eric, a our side too. I love everybody up here. We just disagree. Sometimes. Look, I want to say As we get a little quiet. So. For a long time. Urge this council to have competition for this vice presidential vote. And we did it tonight. And it was a little bit of an awkward position for me as a father. In this process. And so I decided as I went into it to say something nice. But every candidate in this race because I've had the honor of doing every candidate in this race. Very well. And it was easy for me to say the nice things that I did when I was able to speak because it wasn't long after that, I had to keep. Quiet. I couldn't say anything. And so. I think this has been one of the best exercises I've seen among says council. This having such for qualified candidates, any of these candidates could have led this council. Very well this coming year. And I appreciate the way the camaraderie that through shared motions for different candidates. I think that's something I've never seen before. And I thought it was done and such a spirit of of goodness. And a virtue. I want to do something else that I don't think ever been done I've been up here the last 2 times and I think it's a good thing and I Hope Council member Miller because I know what a good man he is. He's a very good man. I've seen him in action before and I know where his heart sent. But something back. In years past. When we've had a tight race for vice PRESIDENT Or even PRESIDENT. The one that just doesn't quite make it. And believing here before I've been on the night 10 9 vote. Might not be a bad. Might be a good thing, too. Make a motion. Even if it's just symbolic. 2, make the vote for vice presidency. Unanimous. And and that's just the way to kind of pull the council together. And that's been done traditionally over the years and it will in a way of good sportsmanship and I leave that to you, sir. But but to make that to make that motion, that you respect all candidates, but that you'd like to make a motion that the race for vice PRESIDENT, paid unanimous amongst all of us. And I think that helps kickoff this new coming year. And a really good way is so I throw that out just as a suggestion. I don't mean to put you spots or but I think know your heart and I think that's something you probably wood consider. And I don't think it's something that has to get any particular council rule. Okay. See that done many times before. Thank you. Council PRESIDENT For allowing me this time. And one last thing I would be remiss. If I didn't say. My son. He's going to do a very good job. He will not disappoint. And he will be fair and square. Across every council member here. He's a young man. I can't tell you how proud he is. Mama. His mother's here tonight, his family is. And as the family I I am a bill say anything, but I think I can now legally and just wants a son. I'm proud of you. And just remember everybody up here as a council member equal with one another in every council members got their own particular needs. And I've seen you treat everybody, unequal Foreman, fashion and just continue to do that. And that will help you launch into a good year next Love ya. I wish you the very best. Thank you. We have a hard stop at 4.50, so the room can get reset for the council meeting which starts that 5 o'clock. So the vice PRESIDENT And PRESIDENT Designate Nick Allen in the queue. Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT, I just want to congratulate Joe Carlucci and being vice PRESIDENT Elect to Jacksonville City Council. We had 4 great candidates in this race today between Rockman can Chris and Joe for outstanding candidates. All terrific council members who care for the city deeply I hope it was one of the last 10 9 votes we have because as I said earlier, I I prefer a 17 to vote. >> Over a 10 9 vote any day. But I just want people know I don't play retribution. Politics. I don't threatened Billie, I don't intimidate and and I want this council to function together as the team and all she's my committee leaders that issues committee leaders that our team oriented that are principled and that are experienced. And most of all I look forward to putting this vote behind us and turning our attention to a productive council year together with Joe. Thank you. Alright. Ducks Johnson. Want to say quickly, thank you to all candidates. Congratulations. First of all, to current council, vice-PRESIDENT Carlucci. >> I want to say MISTER PRESIDENT, if I MAY recognize former Duval County School board chair Bette Seabrook, Bernie's in the audience. I just want to recognize our thank you for being in party and to that family members that came to support me just wanted to say thank you for being here. Means so much. All right. One minute to go. Councilmember Palou so. Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT, I just want to stand next. Play my vote and explain kind I had was that congratulations to the council PRESIDENT Doesn't in Vice PRESIDENT. Proud of you both. And I believe the next year will be a good year. My concern is this this body mean something to me? This legislative body and the norms and traditions of this body need to be upheld. Last year. Current council presidency cows are probably Chennai were singled out. And no vice presidential candidate nor presidential candidate did nothing to try to stop it and stand up. Leadership means something to me. Protocol means something to me. All of you mean something to me as well. Your constituencies elected, you to be in this office as they elected me. And they expect me to be on committees as they expect. COUNCILMAN Carlucci. I believe in protocol so much whenever I go to an event and there's another council member in the audience joined not. Point them out and say good things about them. Not a single event that any of you have been to no matter for rivals or not or have an issue. I always call you out because it's protocol. It's what you should do. It's the norms and traditions of this body. Just want to say before we break tonight, but I hope that we go back to those norms and traditions that's important to me should be