Noticed Meeting CM Peluso RE Townsend and Boylan Flats Apartments

Noticed Meeting CM Peluso RE Townsend and Boylan Flats Apartments — Dec 3, 2025

>> Good morning, everyone to call this mean order. It's 9 o'clock on December. 3rd want to have this meeting before the 10 o'clock Committee benefits agreement. Meaning also want to make sure we have this meeting before the holidays because given some of the some of the attention that was brought up in kind as properties, it was seaman coming up on me that we kind of make sure we take a look at it before the holiday season. When we know like things kind of kind of get and we get caught up in that kind of kind of run of stuff. One quick introductions. I'm going to go to my right first. Go ahead, sir. >> My name is William Hank. Someone to be is on one supervisor with the Municipal Code compliance division that people who so city Council district 7. And then if you too, want to please press the button, we speak. >> I'm a Roman from Eastside Gardens and Duchess. >> Good morning, everyone. My name is Benjamin Michelle, an attorney who represents Eastside Gardens. >> That's right. We are going to dive into public comments and then we're going to go into some of the things they've been discussed and on these properties, some of the code compliance issues that have kind of been brought up and they were run over to the community benefit agreement, ending at 10 o'clock. We've got few cards for about 3 minutes to speak. Dana Sanchez, you're up first. >> My name is Dana Sanchez and addresses on file. So I just wanted to we're doing with them. Lift Jax are working with join development development. Correct? Yes, okay. Kirk just want in on the first speakers. I just want to make sure so join development. We do realize that you are from New Jersey and a lot of Eastside tax money is going to these projects. And I would like to check into little accurate. The little over 3 million dollars has gone into these projects. Yet most of the labor that you used were honestly, not even from the area. And they've been known to be even from the jersey and many of them probably not even do that. I want to expend more up on that. But let's just say most of that tax money is probably not even going to the USA is probably going to out of the country. >> So apart from that now where we've got to talk about the responsibilities of how these developments have been treated, we checked through the permits and no plumbing permits have been taken out. What does that mean? That's a core infrastructure situation that this project needed as mandatory, which wasn't done. So what do we have now? We have a lot of switch issues. We have a lot of tenants that have hepatitis B situations. And if you know what that means, you get hepatitis B from fecal matter. So people are living in practically sewage. That is what joint development has been doing for the east side. So 30 million dollars has already been given to bow to the Jackson to join development. And then you have all this means. The optics, which is paint interior paints pretty much as all you did was mostly just paint because even permits for windows where most of the morning news for that. So you have all of these issues that kind of rounds up too. Well, the property was even paid for, which is about 6.2 million dollars. So I think the responsible thing to do would be to turn those properties back to the city so the city can actually get a responsible contractors are responsible. Investment actually managed is properly. That is what I have to say. Thank you. All right. Next up, James Magic 3 minutes, Sir. James Magic address on file. The fact that we're sitting here today is problematic. We're not the ones that hurt. >> The people hurt as the residents of those apartments and out the wet had went on the proper thing was to call a meeting with them out there on the east side so they can come in and take you personally what's going on. But we don't want to hear the truth. We don't want to hear about. The PLA sulfate is not only lift Jax and its subsidiaries, also the city and the oversight. We also for the pitches. We also up for the press, smiles and giggles. We make promises on our website data and verify. There are a lot of things that I want to go into. We would head there's room full. But people was afraid that if they showed they face, they might not have a place to stay as it was. We had some people step out and say, hey, this is unbearable. And we went in and we've and there were some issues found all the people, the action for us to do what's right. I'm quite sure this didn't come in here to do wrong. They just ended up doing room. And the people that suffered is the people who have the least resources and they thought they had at least recourse. They did not show up today because they say these people are so invented this that they might not have a place to stay. So the proper thing would have been is go out there with a a so that they could come out in masses. And so you couldn't share repeat and just single them out. The fact that I'm standing up is speaking for them is problematic. And we all should be able to see that if I intentions were to do the right thing. If the intentions are to make a better living conditions in the people live in and it has suppressed condition should be one to tell you about this situation that's outside. If there's nothing to hide, you don't need a break in your hot shot lawyer. We can have a community conversation. Everybody want us to capitulate and have this community conversation with people who don't want to have a conversation with us. They want a dictatorship. They will run it their way. See it. They away have it their way. And how did you question them holiday? You try to do what they should do, investigate and hold accountability. Hold them accountable. If the city won't do it, the management company won't do it. The community will. And right on time the TV Harris minutes. >> Good morning. First of all, I'd like to say how totally ashamed of him that evening. You guys have any property and I will use our community. We just recently said in a meeting with live Jax who pointed the finger to join development, then we're just pointing fingers back and forth. You guys were given me for our people not to live. And so our standards you knew about these things. Code enforcement is also just as warm. They've been living this way has been in television. It's been in the public. We can get the city to come out, miss the match it. I had to pull strings for code enforcement to come out this trust. The partnership has to stop. You can do this on the backs of another community. We're not spending money that the city is not holding the Jets joint development accountable for you're not pulling permits. It is illegal and you have code enforcement year to put in new windows without a permit. There was no city inspection but permits. You didn't pull permits. We've talked to the contractors that you brought in not not even educated subcontractors to go up under their license. None of these permits with the only people living in raw sewage mold that live jets and joint development is aware and then they have a property manager which would be that there's so it had been a spy and scared because this is their house. These are things you know, we're not going to city and give you a statement say you should have done better. You know exactly what you would do. You knew exactly what you're doing. You thought it was OK to come into a partisan able to make propaganda video. David got vocal Travis, Michelle Carmi joint development needs to be held accountable. This is my taxpayer money that went into that money that they received to do. Absolutely nothing. We and let this be. No, you would not be getting the battle of the community benefits agreement. Plenty to eat, but you already have money for so figure it out and we're not giving you a 23 year time limit. You know exactly what's happening and the fact that people are scared that they don't need to be skate, but they are skate that you could come into a neighborhood with people in a situation to say, oh, no, speaking up, you understand that Israel with you're not doing the job. The nepotism that has to stop the city holds you accountable. We hold you accountable in public a pink and we were 10 down legacies. I promise you do not let Eastside community food you we would destroy your legacy and I would name it. They've got book is not here. He sent Travis that a couple. And that was that was going to take that from you guys understand what happened it. So we're not going to be here today. Code enforcement at like they've never you not to supervise it. But prior to you, you know exactly what's a pretty big. Thank you. My stabbed on curling 3 minutes, please. >> Good morning. My name is Diane Curling. I am a business owner and a community leader and this community in the east side community. And I want to just speak on behalf of the residents just because they live in a subsidized housing complex doesn't mean they have to live in the conditions that they do. They pay to live there. That's not a place where people just come in, sit up their their residency. They pay to live there. So for skews my own language for sheet to be coming out of heights and coming down the street of where children have to play is despicable and you asked not to be ashamed of the conditions. You have an almost 90 year-old resident who lives on the 3rd floor who has to come down to carry a tings stairs. That is and that's deplorable conditions for any individual to have to live the yes, they chose to live there. Yes, they pay their bills to live there, but they shouldn't have to live. Where was in which these will mold ease. You have children there. They can become ill because of those situations. This has to stop. You need to communicate with your residents and putting lipstick on a pig, the painting a building. They should just stay the color that it was. You wasted money, putting it into the paint and windows without shaking. What do those things, the true problem, which is the plumbing. If you fix the plumbing, you'll be able to handle all the other things. But that is what needs to be taken care of. First, the infrastructure. You got to start with it because for people to have sheet coming down the walls that does, does anybody live it in in a in a place where she is coming down there was and with their stairs are deteriorating because you wouldn't want to live in a condition like they. So let's fix that. >> That's all the public comment cards I have. I do want to get one more and more coming up. I just want to say the reason why we're holding the meeting here and in this way is a notice. Meetings is a recording meeting. >> So a lot of cars, France for just on public records, which is what it is. >> And we have code compliance here. We have management team here. This was to make sure that we as the government are doing our due diligence to make sure that we're as a council member to make sure that we're getting the answers from our side. In our perspective, I've no problem doing committee meeting within the community. That's always expect expectation of mine. But it was I want to make sure we got a meeting fast before the holiday season, right? This was a good time because we're about to do our 10 o'clock CB. A meeting next week, the city council, and then we're off until after the new year. So like this was meant to to move pretty quickly and swiftly to make sure that the meeting was on the books and one that I thought would make sense given we have the CBA meeting right after this. So just what kind of put that out there? Okay. So kind of wanted to pass it off to find folks to kind of find out what what is the history of this project? One of the questions that I have is the HUD housing model that this is because I I know that I'm slightly unfamiliar with all the different HUD housing models, the voucher program, public housing with public housing, I think is owned by JJ here, the Housing Authority's X files and authority. Where do you guys kind of fall in line with that? What you're a private developer or a private moment group, but how how do you how you engage with help with hot? >> My understanding is that we are project base. We have a voucher. I don't know the ins and outs of the relationship, but I know that that's the that there is a relationship. >> So as a as a project based that's privately owned, you accept vouchers or is there like a as the housing authority have a list of people and they're able to put folks in there or does the housing authority only put people in one of their properties? People work says all right. Got to got to get the light. But you got to move down like a little bit. I know is that that's the van as as a a A A. >> So the way it works is it and it's go ahead and apply after the 2. The reviews, then they go ahead. And if an application we submitted to hide, if they're approved, I will say it depending on their income. If Hubble pay 100% of their rent or if the tenant is has some type of income, they'll determine if they have to pay anything at all. So >> when someone up when someone wants to live in your property, you don't just let them know they're good to go through a process. >> Yes, everybody has to has to go to the process. >> So whatever it so everyone, everyone who lives there is income limited and somewhere for everybody, everything on okay. How many properties does I guess joins to do you guys have 100 properties that the United States give a bunch in Florida? What able to kind of speak to that? >> I'm really represent the Florida once Biden Anderson had a no. But what goes on in other states that are several in Florida that all right. And are how many are in Jacksonville? Just the stuff? >> What's the 3rd? One little bit. There's a 3 in total. Keep. What's the 3rd one? You hope homes. >> The pass off quickly. Is there anything else you want to throw in? There was gonna pass off over the kind of code compliance to go through so code compliance supervisor and that over a little bit so we can carry a little better that you are just good at sorry. So a number of complaints were listed. We heard a lot about fecal matter. Heard a lot about plumbing. We heard a good amount of mold. What is the process that it took? Tenants rights is a big deal for me. People living in different apartment complexes in the state of Florida Inc. We're kind of limited in what government can and can't do, unfortunately. But to the point that somebody has a real health concern, what is the process? One goes through to kind of reach out to the government, to city Jackson on say, you know, there's mold here has a problem here in this property. What people usually do. >> Anyone can make a a cold air force may come play about a property. It would have to be the tenant living and the unit >> of the match and has a put into play where he has contacted multiple different and it's and the tenets that gave us permission to access their property where the units that were cited. So we can't go in every single unit. We do have to have legal access into those units. And those tenets that are on the lease has to give us that legal access. >> And for for those units, what kind of stuff was was seen are found. >> So we observed a unsanitary conditions, damage, walls, floors. >> That would be at the 7th Street address low at both addresses. We got inside a 6 units and the 7 street address and only one unit at the 12 Street address. So cemetery conditions of broke in, stole over the fence, alliances, things of that nature. So they were cited at those addresses. Lot of the exterior stairs as well. They were damaged exterior stairs. Those were cited as well at both locations. So we are aware of this property. We have been cited citing this property, but we do have to have of the tenants allowance and to be able to observe the violations. >> This dead end. Do we know which you can answer best? Do we know if the the units that we're talking about those those rooms been retrofitted or or fixed absence since kind of a joint came into ownership of the property for many of them are for all the way. >> So the citations that he's talking about, we did go ahead and take care of them. The only thing that's left is the stairwells that east side, which they're starting on December 4th. >> So if someone who lives in the property has an issue and they and they call call your office, what is that kind of wish to live to do I help ticket? How does that? How does something get addressed? >> All they have to do is the normal process that majority of all the tenants still they call in the work order. We'll go ahead and take care of for that. And when Ali had, how long has joined in and out of the property lose 2 years? Yeah, it's been 2 years that something or if I just want to add, I think the context of the bigger pictures also important to focus on this was obviously a difficult property to begin with. And in the last during the period of joint management ownership, I believe security has been improved. It was the crime has decreased committees to decreased. And there's been a lot of capital improvements made on the property. So it's it was challenging to begin with. But I think it's in a better place now than it was when they first took over. >> Can you speak to? >> Because there's like a HUD, right? There's like a a there's like one with 0. Do 100 like it's rated as I was property. He talked to me about what what the property look like 2 to 3 years ago. What the major issues where the need to be fixed that I guess have been addressed or that are being addressed consistently kind of kind of a timetable on that. >> I have a list here of things that we've done since the beginning for upgrading exterior light painting the units, new roofing window replacement, replacing majority of the plumbing, some renovations of units themselves. Security cameras, security on property, HVAC installed in a majority of the units that needed it flooring new kitchens, new appliances and 60% of the units, plumbing repairs on the ramp. I prepare appliances, stare about the repairs and there's still more scheduled as Carmen said in December. So when it comes to HVAC and plumbing, right, what students to different properties, I know it's like maybe go on to the other. How much, how much of the HVAC to still have to do for towns and how much the track still to for? >> That percentage of wouldn't be able to tell you that. But I know that there's still no more Ajax that probably need to be replaced as intended to, you know, notify us that they're having issues. We'll go ahead, replace them as needed. >> How Long Island is repair? Usually I assume an Ajax pretty pretty decent amount of work. >> Yeah, I mean, it doesn't they just have to order it. You know, the agent HVAC company will have to just, you know, ordered the appointment and then they list all it is there does to have a specific. >> Harman on what that what the quality of life situation must be in a in a certain unit like they do. They have their own requirements to say, hey, if you're getting doctor, if you're project property Room's, got to have like this has to, you know, was a regulations that we have. The does does, however, represented the do those inspections or is it you guys something Specht? Well, hi does go ahead and expect the units. And Ali, let's hear it coming. So comes out once a year and expects every unit. Yes, they go ahead and the company's pension. Is it someone I'm asking the question, is it someone who like comes from DC to do it or is there like a local Jacksonville office? What does it come out of the housing authority? Yeah, I'm not sure where they come from. >> The actual I just know that there are representative become so today. >> Do they coordinate with your office to do those inspections of its kind of show up? >> No, they they do coordinate. And then there's notices sent out every single tenant to hear that. But it's going to be having an inspection. >> What I'm to the point of we've heard a lot about kind of fecal matter and sewage issues can be kind of speak to what happened there. Whether be pro compliance. Are you guys and what that how that even transpired? What what is that this month was that? >> That was the that was the unit, I think, right? Yeah. The vacant unit that recently the one that the city, but it's the citation was that was actually fake unit, the sewage backup. So that wasn't reported maintenance. And you actually we had already contacted Florida Empire. And when the city came out, we know if we showed in that we had they were really on their way. We should have the call logs and that they were ready. Preston, we were just trying to clean up until they arrive to take care of the situation. >> So was it like urgent repairs like wasn't in within 24 hours? It was it was fixed saying that, yes. And were you were you there for that? >> So on 11/6/2020, fat is what we observed the E a switch outside of the back of the units. We did give them 72 hours to get that done. It was not done correctly within that 72 hour period. So they were issued a fine for not correcting that violation. That case has since been closed because the violation was corrected. They'd be it removed the unsanitary conditions on the ground and they spread Lyme throughout the parking lot and in the in affected areas. >> So the point is that's been closed out. What other issues are still kind of open. >> With the individual units. So, you know, Mister James does very well with helping the tenets, but he can only do so much of the tenets have to make us aware of the conditions that they're living man and be able to allow us in for us to address them accordingly. >> So the tenant, the tenant mix report and says, hey, you know, I'm old whatever else you guys call the management company first or how does that work? >> It's so the duo way suggests that the teen is do put in work orders for the issues that they have with their units. Because one thing we always tend to hear is well, they never put put in a work order. We were never aware of this situation. So we do run into that from time to time. But if the teen is put in the complaint, when it comes to our computer, we'll contact the to 10 is for them to allow us access scheduled date in time where they can lead us and to observe the property tax. >> And there's been at least 6 units that you've been able to get access to. >> Yes, 6 at a 12, 37 street and one at 12, 12 0st re. >> There's there's no rebuttal. >> It won't. >> Sorry. This is this is my meeting to talk to management. To code compliance. >> It was the U.S.. >> Now I'm sorry. There's no there's no you're gonna notice me. >> So when you have tenants to say that there's something kind of complaint or whatever else do you have your own internal system where you say we have to fix something within a certain time? >> Yes, there's a call into work or do we put it into our systems? Okay. What I mean? >> I guess I'm asking what that process looks like. So somebody something makes complains, there's mold. So there's an HVAC problem. Citizen appliance issue. At what time do you put into your system? Is that an internal system is that one of the people can see does get to see it or and then how does get fixed? >> What is the system? It's it's it's it's where we put every all of that. And it's information in the system, including work orders. And that's all recorded there. And it'll show like when they put it in the time it was entered well, and then when it's close, that date that it's closed about it and what was actually done. >> So is there I mean, again, if somebody has a refrigerator that's broken, is there a 48 hour time period? Summit art, 72 hour. Time for you guys need to fix that issue. >> Yes, so with the fact is, we always try to keep one on hand for emergencies. But as we can, we have so much space that we have to keep so many so much equipm