City Council Meeting: October 20, 2026

OK, THANK YOU EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 20TH, 2006 MEETING OF THE PASSING OF CITY COUNCIL AND WE'LL START WITH THE CALL OF THE ROLL. THANK YOU. MAYOR ACCOUNTS HAS OUR BLESSING HONORED TO BE HERE. COUNCILMAN JONES HERE, COUNCILMAN LION HERE, COUNCILMAN MADISON HERE. COUNCILMAN MASSOUDA VICE MAYOR REEVES HERE. MAYOR GORDO HERE. THERE'S A QUORUM OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT. OK, MR. MADISON, WHEN YOU MEET US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE REMEMBER ONE TIME I FORGOT MY JACKET IN THE CAR. I HAVE TO GO, YOUR HONOR. THANK YOU. PLEASE RISE IF YOU'RE ABLE AND PLACE YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART READY BEGIN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE FOR ALL. THANK YOU CLOSEST OK? YES WITH APOLOGIES THE COUNCIL DID MEET IN CLOSED SESSION AND WE RAN A LITTLE BIT BEHIND ON SOME VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES SO I'M SORRY THAT WE'VE WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE OF A LATE START AND I'LL TURN TO THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR A REPORT ON CLOSED SESSION. YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE COUNCIL MET IN CLOSED SESSION AND DISCUSSED ITEMS A AND B AND THERE IS NO REPORTABLE ACTION. HOWEVER, I'LL TURN TO COUNCIL MEMBER LIHN FOR HIS STATEMENT. I DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN ITEM B BECAUSE MY LAW FIRM REPRESENTS ONE OF THE PARTIES IN THAT ACTION SO I AM CONFLICTED OUT ON ALL SIDES SO I RECUSE MYSELF IN THAT ITEM. OK, THANK YOU. WITH THAT WE WILL PROCEED TO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR MATTERS. DID YOU WANT TO DO THAT OR OH PUBLIC COMMENT FOR MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA. SURE. UH WE HAVE UH RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SEVEN SPEAKER CARDS I WILL CALL UH THEM THE ORDER OF RECEIVED UH ANTHONY MINUTOS ANTHONY MUSA'S GREAT LORRETTA PARKE'S DANNY CLASH LES HAMMER, CYNTHIA CANDIDE AND THEN YADI AND RENE GONZALES OUR ONLINE MINUTE AND A HALF. SO WE DO HAVE A LONG AGENDA SO I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE DO A MINUTE AND A HALF IF YOU WISH TO USE YOUR TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA NOW. OTHERWISE IF YOU'D LIKE YOUR FULL TIME WE INVITE YOU TO STAY ONCE WE COMPLETE OUR AGENDA AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THE FULL TIME SO IF YOUR NAME IS CALLED AND YOU WISH US TO GO NOW MR. AND MRS. TRY TO SPEAK REAL FAST BECAUSE I WAS PLANNING ON TWO MINUTES. MY NAME IS ANTHONY IMMUNIZES. I'M A PROUD RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE. I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVING THE COMMUNITY RECOMMENDATION TO THE NORTH. VERY SPECIFIC PLAN AND ESPECIALLY FOR RECOGNIZING THAT PUBLIC ART MUST BE A FUNDING PRIORITY. THE COMMUNITY IS ALREADY MOVING WITH THE BLACK HISTORY PARADE APPROACHING, WE HAVE BEGUN WORK ON BLACK LEGACY DISTRICT BANNERS. PARADE ORGANIZERS ARE EAGER PARTNERS. THEY'VE AGREED TO COVER THE FEES AND INSTALLATION FOR EIGHT BANNERS. LOCAL ARTISTS ARE PREPARING DESIGNS. CHURCHES ARE STEPPING UP TO FUND THE BANNERS THEMSELVES. THE COMMUNITY IS DOING ITS PART BUT WE NEED TO KNOW IS WHAT CAN WE EXPECT FROM YOU ALL FROM THE CITY WE REACHED OUT TO THE ARTS CULTURAL COMMISSION AND WE'RE TOLD THAT ANY PUBLIC ART WOULD REQUIRE AT LEAST TWO MEETINGS FOR APPROVAL AND THERE IS LIKELY NO FUNDING AVAILABLE MEANING THE COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE TO COVER ALL COSTS. THIS IS DEEPLY DISCOURAGING. THESE ARE NOT LARGE EXPENSES UTILITY BOXES MAYBE 600 THE BANNERS A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS DECORATIVE CROSSWALKS FOUR THOUSAND OR TWENTY THOUSAND SIDEWALK HALL OF FAME ROUGHLY FIFTY THOUSAND AS I RECALL NOTED THE CITY SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS DEVELOPING THE NORTH. VERY SPECIFIC PLAN. THE QUESTION FOR US NOW IS SIMPLE HOW MUCH IS THE CITY WILLING TO INVEST TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN IT APPROVED AND WILL THESE FUNDS BE IDENTIFIED AND ALLOCATED? THE COMMUNITY STEPPED UP THEIR ANSWER. YOUR TIME IS EXPECTED. WELL, THANK YOU. OK, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I HOPE TO THANK YOU AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR OUR CONCERN. THANK YOU SIR. LORETTA PARKS IF YOU'VE HEARD YOUR NAME AND YOU WISH TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR SPEAKING TIME VERSUS END OF THE MEETING, PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND FALL IN LINE. DANNY CLASHES TO FOLLOW AND THEN LESS HAMMER. GO AHEAD MISS PARKS. HELLO. MY NAME IS AMANDA PARKS AND I WANT TO THANK COULD YOU PICK UP THE MIKE SORRY COULD YOU PICK UP A MICROPHONE SO WE CAN HEAR YOU? I'LL START YOUR TIME OVER HERE. YES OK. MY NAME IS LORETTA PARKS AND I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR NAMING NORTH FERRELLGAS THE BLACK LEGACY HISTORY. IT WAS ALSO PROMISED WE'D GET FUNDING FOR THE VISION WE HAD. WE HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT TO SOME OF THE CITY AND UH BUT THERE THEY ARE NOT ANY FUNDS. THEY BLOCKED IT. ONE CITY OFFICIAL SAID WE PROBABLY COULDN'T GET FUNDS FOR THE FOR THIS VISION AND IF THIS PLAN ISN'T IMPLEMENTED, PEOPLE WILL LOSE FAITH IN US AS A COMMUNITY. AS YOU KNOW, MANY PEOPLE CAME HERE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR I HAVE A VISION PLAN AND IF THERE AREN'T RESULTS THEY WILL NOT BELIEVE US AGAIN. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE TYPE OF COMMUNITY THAT DOES IT BECAUSE IT NEVER COMES THROUGH. PLEASE HELP US WITH THE FUNDING . I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU THE ARTICLE THAT APPEARS IN BY BLACK A NATION A NATIONAL ONLINE PUBLICATION PROMOTING BLACK BUSINESS. THIS ARTICLE QUOTES THE STORY THAT I SHARED WITH YOU WHEN I WAS LITTLE WHEN I LAST SPOKE THIS MORNING THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING IN PASADENA IS BEING WATCHED ACROSS OUR NATION BY NAME IN NORTH FAIR OAKS, THE BLACK LEGACY DISTRICT WE HAVE DONE SOMETHING HISTORIC, SOMETHING WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF THAT WE ARE SHOWING THAT WE ARE WILLING TO MAKE AMENDS FOR THE PAST. MISS PARKER, A GOOD THANK YOU VERY THANK DANNY CLASS MR. CLASS HERE. MR. PRESIDENT, JUST WAITING TO THE END OF THE MEETING OK. OK MR. HAMMER, I SEE YOU IN THE BACK. WHY DON'T YOU HAVE ONE? HAVE YOU COME FORWARD MR. HAMMER. WELCOME FOLLOWED BY CYNTHIA KENNEDY. I SEE CYNTHIA AS WELL AND THEN THE NEXT TWO SPEAKERS ARE ONLINE. GO AHEAD MR. AND MRS. HAMER PASS AT HALF A PROPERTY OWNERS PAY OUTRAGEOUS TAXES AND EXPECT BASIC SERVICES LIKE POLICE AND FIRE. BUT POLICE AND FIRE ARE NOT PRIORITIES HERE IN PASADENA, PROGRESSIVES OTHER IDEAS LIKE MAKING SURE WE HAVE MONEY THAT ICE AGENTS NEVER SET FOOT IN OUR SANCTUARY CITY MONEY TO FILE LAWSUITS AGAINST THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION MONEY FOR OVERPRICED SUBSIDIZED HOUSING AND MONEY TO TEAR UP EVERY MAJOR INTERSECTION FOR ROADS. MEANWHILE, I SCROLL THROUGH YOUTUBE AND WHAT DO I SEE? YOUTUBE STAR VICTOR GADO SHILLING FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND MEASURE PAUDIE KNOWING THAT UNION THE UNION RATHER WILL KICK BACK CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS TO ELECTED OFFICIALS, INDEPENDENT AND REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES DID NOT APPLY. THAT SAID, I DEMAND THAT THE CITY STOP RUNNING THESE ADS FOR MEASURE PFG AND REFUND THE COSTS TO TAXPAYERS. THANK YOU MR. HAMMER. SIN INDEED. CANDACE KENNEDY, WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. EVERY YEAR THE EVERY CALIFORNIA UTILITY MUST PUBLISH A DOCUMENT CALLED THE POWER CONTENT LABEL WHICH SETS OUT IN A VERY UNIFORM FORMAT HOW ELECTRIC POWER IS GENERATED IN THAT IN THAT JURISDICTION THE DOCUMENT HAS TO BE IN THE SAME FORMAT WHICH MEANS IT'S EASY TO SEE THE FACTS SO THERE'S NO SPIN. IT'S JUST THE FACTS. THE TWENTY TWENTY FIVE POWER CONTENT LABEL FOR PASADENA WAS JUST PUBLISHED. IT SHOWS THAT PASADENA'S POWER MIX IS FIFTY ONE PERCENT FOSSIL FUELS WHILE THE CALIFORNIA AVERAGE IS THIRTY THREE PERCENT 23 PERCENT OF OUR POWER COMES FROM BURNING NATURAL GAS WELL CALIFORNIANS AVERAGE IS 11 PERCENT. WE REALIZE THAT THIS BAD SHOWING IS PROBABLY TEMPORARY. WE HOPE IT'S TEMPORARY. IT'S PROBABLY ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE INTERMOUNTAIN POWER CONTRACT WHICH IS GOING TO COME TO AN END NEXT YEAR. IT MAY ALSO BE BECAUSE OF THE MAGNOLIA GAS PLANT AND USE OF GLENARM. WE CALL UPON YOU TO REQUIRE CLARIFICATION OF WHY THE FIGURES ARE SO HIGH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MISS GOUTY YADI FALL BY RENE GONZALEZ. HI MERCEDES ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE MOKTAR OR WITH TESTING THEIR FLIGHT CONTRACT PASADENA STILL LAGS BEHIND NOW THE COUNCIL HAS PROBABLY RECEIVED OVER ONE THOUSAND PIECES OF COMMUNICATION FROM PASADENA RESIDENTS CALLING ON YOU TO CANCEL FLUCK THIS WEEK WE SUBMITTED A LETTER AND SPOKE AT TODAY'S REPUBLICAN MEETING OUTLINING THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE USE OF STATIONARY POWER AND THEIR USE IN PASADENA. THE CALIFORNIA RACIAL AND IDENTITY PROFILING ADVISORY BOARD OPERATES UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY GENERAL AND STAFF BY DOJ ATTORNEYS UNDER THE CIVIL RIGHTS ENFORCEMENT SECTION. THE 19 MEMBER BOARD WORKS TO ELIMINATE RACIAL AND IDENTITY PROFILING IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE SHARED OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE CONCENTRATION OF BLACK AND OTHER STATIONARY ALPE CAMERAS AND ALREADY OVERPOLICED COMMUNITIES AS IS THE CASE IN PASADENA DUE TO CAMERA PLACEMENT. THIS MEANS THAT RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT ONE THREE FIVE PILOT HIGHER PROPENSITY OF BEING STOPPED AND PROFILED BY POLICE THIS SPECULATION BUT VERY WELL FOUNDED. HOWEVER WE CAN EASILY OBTAIN THE DATA TO CONFIRM OR DISPROVE THIS THEORY. IT IS EASILY TECHNOLOGICALLY FEASIBLE TO TRACK THE OUTCOMES OF BLACK ALERTS RESPONSES AND AND ANSWER QUESTIONS LIKE HOW MANY ALERTS ARE RESPONDING TO AT THE VERY LEAST IN THE INTERIM IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO CANCEL THE FLIGHT CONTRACT AND STOP USING ALPE THEN YOU SHOULD BE COLLECTING DATA AND DIRECTING WORKING WITH PD TO FIND OUT HOW WE'RE USING THESE SYSTEMS. BUT AGAIN I URGE YOU TO CANCEL A CONTRACT OR YOU WANT TO FIGURE IT OUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RENE GONZALEZ. RENE, YOU'RE MUTED. THERE YOU GO. YES, GO AHEAD. THE ARE HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS THE FOUNDER AND YOU'RE THE ONE ABOUT THE SECRECY AUTHORIZATION PROPOSAL. THE PRESIDENT OF THE ONLY SISTER CITY ENTITY IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE NATIONAL SECURITY ORGANIZATION, THE INTERNATIONAL SISTER CITY ASSOCIATION LAST WEEK A PUBLIC REQUEST TO RECOGNIZE NATIONAL SISTER CITIES THEY LED TO A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MAYOR'S AUTHORITY OVER WHAT THE MAYOR DESCRIBED AS A FRIENDSHIP RELATIONSHIP. THAT RESPONSE RAISES A SERIOUS CONCERN ABOUT THE PUBLIC'S UNDERSTANDING OF OUR WORK AND WHAT THE PROPOSAL FOR CREATION PROCESS HAS ALWAYS SISTER CITY AFFILIATION, NOT A FRIENDLY AFFILIATION. WE CLASSIFY IT AS A FRIENDSHIP RELATIONSHIP BY THE MAYOR MISREPRESENTS CITIZEN DIPLOMACY WORK THAT OUR CITIZENS HAVE COMPLETED. IT IS DEEPLY DISAPPOINTED AND AN EMBARRASSMENT FOR PASADENA WITHIN THE NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY AND THE MEXICAN COMMUNITY THAT THE CITIZENS WHO FULFILL THE RESPONSIBILITIES CONTINUE TO FACE THIS INSTITUTIONAL ROADBLOCK BY THE FIRST MAJOR WITH LATINO HERITAGE MAYOR GORDO'S AUTHORITY OVER OUR FRIENDSHIP CITY RELATIONSHIP SHOULD NEVER BECOME A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION OF A FORMAL SISTER PROPOSAL PROCESS. I ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL TO VALUE THE RESPECT AND INTEGRITY OF A FORMAL SERVE. YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. GONZALEZ WAS VERY THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC OPINION. THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA. THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR PATIENCE. THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO CONSENT CALENDAR AND I'LL ENTERTAIN THIS WEEK MOTION THE CONSENT CALENDAR MR. COLE FOLLOWED BY MR. MASSOUDA SECONDS. ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR SEEN ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR IS APPROVED NOW WITH THE COUNCIL'S PERMISSION WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NINE, THEN 10 AND THEN RETURN. WE'LL TAKE THOSE ITEMS OUT OF ORDER BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME OH THERE WAS YEAH THERE WAS A PUBLIC COMMENT FRIDAY FOR SORRY MAY WE MOVE TO ITEM ONE AND TO MR. RAMOS MR. RAMOS HERE ITEM ONE AND TWO ROLLO'S OK, SORRY ABOUT UM OK SO SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NINE AND 10 AND THEN RETURN TO ITEM SEVEN. SO NINE. SO THIS IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PASADENA, CALIFORNIA MEANING THE WATER WASTE PROHIBITION'S AND WATER SUPPLY SHORTAGE PLANS TITLE THIRTEEN CHAPTER THIRTEEN POINT ONE ZERO THE PASADENA MUNICIPAL CODE. IT WAS INTRODUCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER KOL OK LOCAL I MEAN JUST MAKE SURE THE SPEAKER OK AND THERE'S OTHER OF. NO I DON'T THINK SO. RIGHT OK COUNCIL MEMBER CALL TO CONDUCT FIRST READING YES KAZMIR HAMPTON COUNCILMAN JONES YES. COUNCILMAN LYON YES. COUNCILMAN MASSIVE COUNCILMAN MASSOUDA YES. VICE MAYOR RIVA'S YES. MAYOR. YES. THE ORDINANCE WAS UNANIMOUSLY INTRODUCED OK WITH REGARD TO ITEM TEN THAT IS THE INFORMATION INFORMATION ITEM I THINK THAT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. OK AND WE DO HAVE SPEAKER ON THAT CHIEF, ARE YOU BRINGING UP THE POINT FOR THE YOU DON'T HAVE ONE FOR PBT? I KNOW IT WAS IN THE PACKET ONE SECOND AS WE PULL UP THE POINTS BUT I TELL YOU YOU DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO PULL IT OFF THE UM WEBSITE THERE WAS YEAH. ME THAT I'M I'M SORRY. YEAH I UH MR. MAYOR MADAM VICE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL LEAVING UH TONIGHT WE'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM UM THAT IS IN CONNECTION WITH OUR AP FORTY ONE REPORT. UM WE ARE COMING TO YOU WITH OUR DESIRE TO ACQUIRE AN ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIER THROUGH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPORT OFFICE OR WSO TO GIVE A QUICK PROGRAM OVERVIEW THE AREA PROGRAM WORKED IN THIRTY THREE PROGRAM AS IT'S KNOWN ALLOWS ELIGIBLE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO ACQUIRE SURPLUS MILITARY EQUIPMENT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PRACTICES. THIS HAS BEEN MOST FAMILIAR WITH US ONE FOR OUR HELICOPTER PROGRAM WE'VE ACQUIRED HELICOPTERS AND MANY OTHER PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THROUGH THE MILITARY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. UH, THE REASON WE ARE ENGAGED IN THIS PROGRAM IS BECAUSE OFFICERS HAVE OFFERS US COST EFFECTIVE METHODS TO ACQUIRE EQUIPMENT THAT WE BELIEVE THAT WE NEED IN THE IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY MISSION PROVIDES ELIGIBLE AGENCIES ACCESS TO SURPLUS EQUIPMENT AT LITTLE OR NO COST AND GENERALLY THE COST TO PURCHASE REQUIRES ZERO. BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE ON THE COST OF OUTFITTING AND GETTING IT READY FOR DEPLOYMENT IN THIS CASE WE ARE PURSUING AN ARMORED VEHICLE AND I WILL DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT HERE AS WE DEEPEN THE PRESENTATION BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AWARE THAT THE PURPOSE OF BRINGING TO COUNCIL IS TO MAINTAIN THE TRANSPARENCY AND HAVE THIS DISCUSSION IN THE OPEN PUBLIC NOTICE PPD HAS MAINTAINED ITS REQUIRED NOTICE OF INTENT TO ACQUIRE ON ITS MILITARY EQUIPMENT WEBPAGE SINCE MAY OF TWENTY TWENTY FOUR. WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE PEOPLE IS THAT WE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THESE THINGS WILL BECOME AVAILABLE FOR MILITARY SURPLUS WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN A REQUEST OR AN INTENT FORM AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT WE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR EVEN IF IT'S A YEAR OR TWO IN ADVANCE, MAYBE FORTY ONE FORTY ONE COMPLIANCE IN JUNE OF TWENTY TWENTY TWO CITY COUNCIL APPROVED PD MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY AUTHORIZED IN QUALIFYING EQUIPMENT CATEGORIES INCLUDING ARMORED VEHICLES WE'VE ALSO HAD THIS POLICY GONE THROUGH CPAC AND MEMBERS OF PUBLIC SAFETY. THE POLICY HAS I'M SORRY THE POLICY HAS BEEN RENEWED ANNUALLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT CODE SEVEN ZERO SEVEN ONE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE ASKING TO ACQUIRE CERTAINLY WITH THE WITH THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE COUNCIL BECAME AVAILABLE ON OCTOBER 7TH. SO ON OCTOBER SEVEN TWENTY TWENTY SIX WE WERE NOTIFIED BY NORTHERN CALIFORNIA AGENCY WHO HAS THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT AN APC OR ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIER WAS AVAILABLE. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NOMENCLATURE IS UNDERSTOOD BY EVERYONE. THERE IS A MILITARY NOMENCLATURE CALLED ENWRAPPED WHICH STANDS FOR MINE RESISTANT AMBUSH PROTECTION THAT IS A MILITARY NOMENCLATURE THAT IS GIVEN TO MILITARY VEHICLES BUT THAT IS CERTAINLY JUST THE MILITARY VERSION OF THAT WHEN ENEMY PULL IT UP HERE GENERALLY ARE KNOWN DEPENDING ON WHO IT IS THAT THE MANUFACTURER THAT MAKES IT SO AS AN EXAMPLE THROUGH FORCE PROTECTION IT WOULD BE CALLED THE COUGAR THROUGH MASPERO OR INTERNATIONAL WHICH IS THE VERSION THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ACQUIRE. IT'S BUILT THROUGH NAVISTAR DEFENSE AND A KALMEN WAS BUILT BY SYSTEMS MATV OR EMRAN ALL TERRAIN VEHICLE THROUGH OSHKOSH DEFENSE AND THERE'S THE BUFFALO BUILT BY FORCE PROTECTION. SO THESE ARE THE ACTUAL NOMENCLATURE NAMES THAT WILL COME FROM THE MANUFACTURER BUT THE MILITARY PROVIDES ITS OWN MILITARY NOMENCLATURE BASED ON THE MISSION OF THE OF THE EQUIPMENT FOR US OUR MISSION WILL BE AS AN ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIER TO GET PEOPLE INTO AND OUT OF SITUATIONS THAT REQUIRE PROTECTION THAT CAN PROTECT PEOPLE FROM IEDS SMALL ARMS FIRE UP TO AN INCLUDING 50 CALIBER ROUNDS AND IT WILL ALSO CERTAINLY BE USED FOR RESCUE. BUT THAT'S THE MAIN INTENT OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACQUIRE THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR ON THE ANNUAL REPORT THE PPD TWENTY FIVE TWENTY SIX MILITARY EQUIPMENT REPORT WAS POSTED IN JULY TWENTY TWENTY SIX PERCENT OF THE CITY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 29TH OF TWENTY TWENTY SIX DURING THE ANNUAL POLICY RENEWAL PROCESS AND SO IT NEEDS TO BE NOTED THAT WE GOT NOTIFICATION OF THE AVAILABILITY OF THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IN OCTOBER SO WE WOULD NORMALLY HAVE INCLUDED IT ON OUR MILITARY OUR FORTY ONE REPORT BUT WE DIDN'T GET NOTICE UNTIL AFTER THAT REPORT WAS DONE SO WE IMMEDIATELY PUT IT ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA TO BRING IT BEFORE YOU THE CITY COUNCIL NOTIFICATION THE PD IS TODAY NOTIFYING THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE INTENT TO ACQUIRE THE APC. CERTAINLY WITH YOUR AUTHORIZATION IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT CPAC IS MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER OF TWENTY SIX WAITING ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IN OUR IN OUR ESTIMATION COULD DELAY TRANSFER AND JEOPARDIZE THE ACQUISITION OF THE OF THE EQUIPMENT BUT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT WE HAVE RUN OUR MILITARY EQUIPMENT POLICY THROUGH CPAC. THE NEXT PAGE IS A PICTURE OF WHAT IT ACTUALLY THE ACTUAL VEHICLES ON THE LEFT AND ON THE RIGHT IS IN THE EYE RENDERING EXCUSE AND WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE ONCE IT IS PAINTED AND WE GET IT GEARED UP FOR PASADENA SERVICE AS IT LOOKS RIGHT NOW ON THAT RIGHT PICTURE THE COST OF GETTING THAT UP FIT WE ESTIMATE TO BE IN THE AREA OF ABOUT FIFTEEN TO TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS WILL ACQUIRE THE PAINTING AND CERTAINLY THE INSTALLATION OF A POLICE RADIO . BUT THAT AMOUNT IS WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO TO OUTFIT THIS PARTICULAR VEHICLE. WE WILL USE EXISTING CONTRACTS WITH REGARD TO HOW WE MANAGE OUR FLEET IF VEHICLE CONDITION IT IS A 2008 INTERNATIONAL MAX RESCUE APC WITH NO KNOWN MECHANICAL ISSUES AND IS AVAILABLE THROUGH THIS ELEAZAR PROGRAM THE OPERATIONAL BENEFITS ENABLES SAFER PERSONAL TRANSPORT, EMERGENCY EVACUATIONS AND RESCUE OPERATIONS DURING CRITICAL OR TACTICAL INCIDENTS AS YOU MAY KNOW WE HAVE SEVERAL SYRIAN EVENTS THAT WILL BE COMING UP WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS HAPPENING THREE OF THEM IN ONE YEAR AS A MATTER OF FACT. AND SO IDEALLY WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY GET OURSELVES PREPPED TO DEAL WITH THESE INTERNATIONAL EVENTS ENHANCED RESPONSE THAT IMPROVES PEOPLE'S RESPONSE TO ACTIVE SHOOTERS, TERRORIST THREATS AND OTHER HIGH RISK INCIDENTS CERTAINLY IT WILL ENHANCE OUR ABILITY FOR COMMUNITY AND PERSONAL SAFETY, PERSONNEL SAFETY AND PERSONAL SAFETY, PROVIDE SECURE TRANSPORTATION DURING EVACUATIONS AND RESCUE OPERATIONS AS IT WERE OPERATIONAL READINESS THAT SUPPORTS SIMULTANEOUS EMERGENCIES WHILE MAINTAINING CRITICAL RESPONSE CAPABILITIES. AS IT STANDS NOW WE HAVE ONE VEHICLE THAT WE USE AND WHEN WE NEED TO WE HAVE TO BORROW THEM FROM OTHER AGENCIES AND CERTAINLY THE SHARED RESOURCES ARE ARE WONDERFUL BUT HAVING THE ABILITY TO DEPLOY OURS ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE EVENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN PASADENA IS IS PRUDENT. WE DISCUSS REGIONAL SUPPORT CERTAINLY THE MUTUAL THROUGH MUTUAL AID WE SHARE RESOURCES AND ENHANCE PUBLIC SAFETY AND PROVIDES ADDITIONAL ARMORED RESOURCES TO ASSIST NEIGHBORING AGENCIES AND FOR US TO HAVE NEIGHBORING AGENCIES ASSIST US . CERTAINLY THE UPCOMING EVENTS L-A TWENTY EIGHT PREPAREDNESS THAT GROUP WHICH I AM A PART OF WE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH THE ANTICIPATED THREATS COMING THROUGH DURING THAT TIME FRAME. THIS WILL CERTAINLY STRENGTHEN PD READINESS FOR HIGH RISK INCIDENTS AND EMERGENCY EVACUATIONS DURING THE OLYMPIC GAMES AND THE PARALYMPIC GAMES CERTAINLY IN CONNECTION WITH INTERNATIONAL THREAT PROFILES THE COST EFFECTIVE ACQUISITION AS I SAID, PROVIDES A LOT OF LOW COST ACQUISITION FOR US. THE OUTFITTING IS THE ONLY COST THAT WE ANTICIPATE AND I SAID IT WAS A TIME SENSITIVE OPPORTUNITY. WHEN WE GET THESE THINGS AVAILABLE TO US WE TRY TO TAKE ACTION ON ACQUIRING THEM AS SOON AS WE CAN. BUT WE CERTAINLY WE PUT IN FOR THIS ONE BACK IN TWENTY TWENTY FOUR AND IT FINALLY BECAME AVAILABLE. SO THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE HOPING TO GET YOUR AUTHORIZATION TODAY. TRANSPARENCY'S IMPORTANT SO WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION PPD IS PROVIDING CITY COUNCIL WITH AVAILABLE INFORMATION AND COMPLIANCE WITH OUR FOUR EIGHTY ONE PROTOCOL. WE DID DISCUSS THE EXISTING AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY TO APPROVE THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT USE POLICY AND AUTHORIZES AVAILABLE EQUIPMENT INCLUDING ARMORED VEHICLES AND THE REPORTING WILL CONTINUE BECAUSE PPD WILL INCLUDE THIS ABC AND FUTURE AND MILITARY EQUIPMENT REPORTS AS REQUIRED BY BEFORE ANYONE INCLUDING THE ACQUISITION AND THE USE ON A REGULAR BASIS AND FINALLY THE VEHICLE TRANSFER WE INTEND TO PROMPTLY TRANSFER AND TAKE POSSESSION OF THE APC SUBJECT TO APPLICABLE LEGAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE REQUIREMENTS AND CERTAINLY BASED ON ON YOUR AUTHORIZATION WITH THAT I TAKE CHIEF I JUST WANT TO COMMENT BEFORE WE GET INTO QUESTION. THE GENERAL COUNSEL UNDERSTANDS THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM BECAUSE THE COUNCIL IS NOT REQUIRED TO ACT ON THIS ITEM BUT WE ARE REQUIRED TO BRING IT FORWARD AND WE WILL CERTAINLY TAKE DIRECTION IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO GIVE DIRECTION ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT. BUT THERE IS NO ACTION REQUIRED FROM THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU. LET'S START WITH MR. HAMPTON FOLLOWED BY MR. MASSOUDA THE MR. COOL CITY MANAGER IN CHIEF. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TRANSPARENCY. I UNDERSTAND YOU SAID A LITTLE TO NO COST FOR THIS EQUIPMENT. YES, SIR. SO OVER THE PAST, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS WE'VE REALLY BEEN TRYING TO WORK ON BRINGING A CONNECTION TO OUR COMMUNITY AND YOU GUYS AS I SAY YOU GUYS I'M TELLING MY POLICE GENERAL YOU ARE AMBASSADORS WHEN YOU'RE OUT ON THE STREETS AND YOU TALK TO OUR NEIGHBORS, YOU SMILE, YOU KNOW, YOU SHAKE HANDS, YOU HAVE COFFEES WITH THEM DONUTS, ET CETERA DURING BASTERS WHEN I THINK OF OUR POLICING IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE LEAPS AND BOUNDS AHEAD OF WHERE WE WERE SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AGO AND WE'RE GETTING BETTER I DON'T KNOW. THE COST MAY NOT BE A COST BUT IT WOULD BE A MAJOR COST TO THE REPUTATION THAT YOU'RE BUILDING. THE REPUTATION THAT YOU'RE BUILDING IS ONE OF THE COMMUNITY AND ONE THAT YOU'RE OPENING THE DOORS. YOU WANT PEOPLE TO COME IN AND THIS TRUCK IF SOMEONE PULLED UP TO MY HOUSE WITH THIS OR I MEAN THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THESE ARE NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT. AND WE HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS BUT A TRUCK OF THIS SIZE AND THIS MAGNITUDE IS PURELY MILITARY AND IT SHOULD STAY THAT WAY. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS INFORMATIONAL ITEM AND WE HAVE A BEARCAT SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR ANOTHER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT OF THIS SIZE IN THIS MAGNITUDE ON OUR STREETS. I GET IT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWENTY EIGHT THAT'S A TWO WEEK THING. WE HAVE A REPUTATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD. YOU AS A CHIEF HAVE BEEN DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB AT MAINTAINING AND TRYING TO KEEP THAT RELATIONSHIP GOING. I THINGS LIKE THIS IS A STEP BACKWARDS TO ME IF WE WERE TO ACQUIRE ONE OF THESE AND SO I UNDERSTAND IT'S INFORMATION BUT I'M GOING TO SAY AS ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER I'M COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO PURCHASING A VEHICLE LIKE THIS EVEN IF THERE'S NO COST WHATSOEVER. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HAMPTON. MR. MAYOR STEWARD FOLLOWED BY MR. COOL CHIEF, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE REPORT AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT NO COST BUT YOU MENTIONED THE 20000 DOLLARS FOR FOR UPDATE. YES, WE HAVE TO UPDATE IT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PAINTING IT TO BE WITH THE COLOR SCHEME OF OUR EXISTING EQUIPMENT AND SO AND WE HAVE TO PLACE A POLICE RADIO INSIDE. THOSE ARE THE ONLY UPDATES WE ANTICIPATE. ANY OTHER COSTS THAT YOU CAN THINK OF REGISTERING IT EVERY YEAR BUT WE WOULD DO THAT WITH OUR EXISTING BUDGET SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING. WE'RE GOING TO MANAGE IT WITH OUR EXISTING FLEET MONEY. WHERE WOULD IT BE STORED? PROBABLY AT RIGHT NOW AT THE EITHER THE THE THE AIR SUPPORT OR HELIPORT OR WHERE WE STORE OUR PMC-SIERRA MOBILE COMMAND POST AT A GARAGE NEAR THE CONVENTION CENTER. WE WANT TO KEEP IT OUT OF SIGHT UNTIL IT NEEDS TO BE USED, WHICH IS WHAT WE DO WITH OUR CURRENT EQUIPMENT. WE TRY NOT TO UTILIZE THE BEARCAT EXCEPT IN EMERGENCIES. THE FIRE WAS THE MOST RECENT REAL TELEVISED PUBLIC VERSION OF THAT AND WE ANTICIPATE MANAGING THE SAME WAY THAT WE DO THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU, MR. MASSOUDA. MR. COLE. THANK YOU CHIEF I SHIRE COUNCIL MEMBER HAMPTON'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE CREEPING MILITARIZE OF POLICING IN OUR SOCIETY AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH YOU COMING HERE TO PRESENT THE CASE TO ME THE MOST COMPELLING ARGUMENT FOR US IS OFFICER SAFETY. OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A HIGH PRIORITY IN THOSE ELEVEN INCIDENTS IN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS WHERE WE'VE BORROWED ANOTHER VEHICLE FROM ANOTHER AGENCY. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU WOULD KNOW THIS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD OR THE FOLKS WHO ARE HERE WITH YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE THAT. BUT WHAT HAVE IN THOSE SITUATIONS HAVE WE GENUINELY NEEDED THEM OR HAVE WE DEPLOYED SOMETHING IN THE CONCERN THAT MAYBE SOMETHING MIGHT HAPPEN? WHAT MIGHT TURN OUT TO BE A BOMB? WHAT HAVE YOU WHAT WHAT THE ACTUAL CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH WE'VE NEEDED A SECOND ARMORED VEHICLE? THE CIRCUMSTANCES FOR US VARY. ONE OF THOSE IS MULTIAGENCY FEDERAL WARRANT SERVICE FOR THINGS LIKE HOMICIDE, ASSAULT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON AND GOING AFTER PEOPLE WHO ARE KNOWN TO HAVE WEAPONS. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WHEN WE DO THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ONE PROTECT THE OFFICERS WE'RE GOING UP TO CONDUCT THIS OPERATION BUT TO THAT WE HAVE A PLACE TO SECURE OTHER FOLKS THAT MAY BE CONNECTED BY GEOGRAPHY TO WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS. SO WE'VE USED IT IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE NEEDED TO SECURE PROTECT POTENTIAL VICTIMS TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF A HOUSE WHERE WE HAD TO EVACUATE BECAUSE THERE WERE ARMED PEOPLE INSIDE. THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO NEED TO PUT PERSONNEL EMERGENCY RESCUE TEAMS CLOSE TO A VENUE TO PROTECT THOSE OUTSIDE THE PERIMETER A LITTLE BIT. SO WE PUT THOSE UP THERE SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROTECT FOLKS IN THE OF SAFETY IS THE PRIMARY CONCERN ALSO IMPROMPTU CALLS, 911 CALLS WHERE WE HAVE CRIMES OF OPPORTUNITY, ARMED ROBBERIES, ET CETERA WHEN WE RESPOND WITH OUR SWAT TEAM WHICH WILL BE MOVING TO A FULL TIME SWAT TEAM HERE SHORTLY WHEN WE GET TO 2028 OR CLOSE TO AND ARE PREPARED FOR IT IS THE VEHICLE THAT WILL TRANSPORT THOSE FOLKS THEIR EQUIPMENT AND ALL OF THEIR CAPABILITIES UP TO WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS AND TO PROVIDE THE PROTECTION THAT WE'VE STATED. SO FOR US THE ONLY REASON TO HAVE AN ARMORED VEHICLE IS TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE EITHER INSIDE OF IT OR THE PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO PUT INSIDE IT TO MOVE IT AWAY FROM THE LOCATION OTHERWISE THAT WE COULD JUST WRITE REGULAR CARS WITH THOSE LIKE BUTTER WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DEAL WITH THE CRIMINAL ELEMENTS AND THREATS THAT WE ANTICIPATE DEALING WITH. SO I DON'T THINK ANSWERS THE QUESTION THAT'S VERY HELPFUL, CHIEF. AND I APPRECIATE THAT I'M NOT PERSUADED THAT WE NEED IT FOR THE SUPER BOWL AND THE OLYMPICS THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF FEDERAL RESOURCES THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THIS LEVEL OF PROTECTION IT SEEMS TO ME AND OTHER MUTUAL AID OPPORTUNITIES . I'M AGAIN I'M TORN. OFFICER SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT. I'M NOT PERSUADED THAT IN THE INSTANCES WHERE WE ACTUALLY NEED A SECOND VEHICLE WE CAN'T BORROW AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST. I'M INCLINED TO SIDE WITH MR. HAMPTON BUT I'LL WAIT FOR THE OTHER COLLEAGUES TO WEIGH IN IF I MAY HAVE ONE NOTE TO A COMMENT YOU MADE, SIR. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW EVERYONE YOU FOLKS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY IS THAT WHEN IN TWENTY EIGHT WHEN WE GET TO THE WE OF THREE OR ONE EVENTS WITHIN 360 DAYS GENERALLY THERE'S ONLY SEVEN OF THOSE EVERY YEAR ACROSS THE COUNTRY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE WITHIN THREE HUNDRED SIXTY DAYS OF THE THREAT PROFILE THAT'S COMING TO THE INTERNATIONAL CITIES THAT ARE ENGAGING IN THE OLYMPICS IS SIGNIFICANT. IT'S PASADENA, IT'S LONG BEACH, IT'S INGLEWOOD AND IT'S THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES, THE CITY OF ARCADIA. AND I THINK POMONA HAS A VENUE SO THERE'S MULTIPLE VENUES THAT HAVE OLYMPIC EVENTS THAT ARE GOING TO REALLY TIE UP RESOURCES, BOTH RESOURCES FROM THE COUNTY AND THE FEDS HAVE ALREADY INDICATED THAT THEIR THEIR FOCUS WILL NOT BE THE EQUIPMENT THAT WILL BE COMING INTO TOWN BUT IT WILL BE THE LOGISTICS AND THE SUPPORT STUFF, THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'LL HAVE MOST ADVANTAGE FROM THE FEDS. THE COUNTY IS SOMEBODY THAT WE RELY ON HEAVILY. WE DEAL WITH THE ROSE BOWL AND CERTAIN OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO. THOSE RESOURCES ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DEPLETED AND WE ARE PLANNING FOR THAT EVOLUTION. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I PUT THAT OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT. AND FROM A MUTUAL AID PERSPECTIVE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF TRYING TO ID WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO CONTRACTUALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE EVENTS INCLUDING OUR INTERNATIONAL SOCCER AND POTENTIALLY THE DIVING EVENTS, ALL OF THE OFFSITE VENUES INTO INCLUDING THE PROPERTY VENUES AND PARTIES AND ALL OF THE OTHER AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR RESOURCES IS GOING TO BE A LOGISTICAL CHALLENGE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I MADE EVERYBODY AWARE THAT AGAIN. THANK YOU, CHIEF. MR. MADISON. THANKS, MAYOR. I JUST THE FIRST THING I'M STRUGGLING WITH IS THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT AND I DOESN'T REALLY FEEL LIKE AN INFORMATION ITEM FRANKLY. IT FEELS LIKE A CHOICE THAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO MAKE AND I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE WERE IF WE WENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND HAD A MORE FULSOME DISCUSSION IF THAT'S WHAT IT REALLY IS. BUT LET ME JUST ASK STAFF IF THE COUNCIL TAKES NO ACTION AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT ACTION WE COULD LEGALLY TAKE GIVEN THAT IT IS INFORMATION ONLY THEN THE THE REQUIREMENT THAT THIS BE DISCUSSED AT THE COUNCIL WOULD BE SATISFIED AND THEN THE THE OPPOSITION WOULD GO FORWARD. I TAKE IT. SO THE WAY WE PUBLISH OUR AGENDA IS THAT THE COUNCIL CAN TAKE ACTION ON ANY ITEM SO YOU COULD THE COUNCIL COULD TAKE ANY REASONABLE ACTION THAT'S RELATED TO THIS ITEM WHETHER THAT'S DIRECT STAFF TO ABANDON THIS PROCUREMENT, WHETHER IT'S TO GO BACK AND GO THROUGH CPAC OR PUBLIC SAFETY UNDERSTANDING WE COULD JEOPARDIZE LOSING IT BECAUSE OF THE TIME DELAY OR THE COUNCIL COULD NOT TAKE ANY ACTION WHICH FOR US WOULD MEAN WE COULD PROCEED WITH OUR ACQUISITION BECAUSE THE COUNCIL DOESN'T NEED TO FORMALLY PROVE US ACCEPTING IT. SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR AN ACTION IF THE COUNCIL WANTED STAFF TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN ACCEPT THE ITEM YOU CAN ACCEPT SUMMARY SHOULD BE NOTED ALSO COUNCILMAN MADISON, THAT IS FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE CPAC WITH REGARDS POLICY FOR ARMORED VEHICLES AND THE CPAC POSITION WAS THE POLICY HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THEM FOR ARMORED VEHICLES AND IT'S THE SAME POLICY THAT WE UTILIZE FOR EACH OF OUR FORTY ONE REPORTS AND YOU GOT IT. YEAH, I MEAN I JUST AGAIN WITH THE MORE TIME AND COMMITTEE YOU KNOW I'D LOVE TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IS HAS REALLY CHANGED THE PARADIGM AND NOW WE WE ARE SCRUTINIZING THINGS MORE CAREFULLY BECAUSE OF HOW WE'VE BEEN MADE TO TO FEEL AND EXPERIENCE FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY MANY LEVELS. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN THINKING THIS WEEK I HAVE FAMILY IN OREGON AND THERE WAS A TERRIFIC SCHOOL SHOOTING IN OREGON AND THEN I READ THAT IT WAS LIKE THE FIFTY SECOND SCHOOL SHOOTING IN OUR COUNTRY THIS YEAR AND GOD FORBID THAT WE HAVE THAT I WOULD IMAGINE TOOLS LIKE THIS MIGHT SADLY BE NEEDED OR EFFECTIVE IN SITUATIONS LIKE THAT AS WELL. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT PREDICTABLE AS PREVENTABLE AS YOU'VE HEARD SAID WE ARE CONSTANTLY TAKING A LOOK AT EXTERNAL THREATS, THREATS THAT COULD BECOME IMMINENT EVERY TIME WE GET ONE OF THESE ADVERTISEMENTS OR WE GET WE HEAR ON THE NEWS ABOUT STUFF THAT'S HAPPENING IN THESE SCHOOLS IT'S THERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD GO I. WE'RE FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD THOSE EVENTS. BUT AS AN INTERNATIONAL CITY I THINK THAT WE NEED TO AND IT'S JUST MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION AND WHAT WE DO AND WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP OUR ABILITY TO INTERACT WITH THESE FOLKS IS UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT BUT WIN AND THE GOAL IS TO BE PREPARED. I WOULD HATE TO NEED IT NOT HAVE IT IN THE GENERAL SENSE AND TO HAVE IT THAN TO NEED IT AND NOT HAVE IT. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS TRYING TO BE PREPARED FOR ANY OF THOSE EVENTS THAT MAY BE A PROBLEM AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT THERE WILL BE PART OF MY JOB UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE IN UNIFORM IS TO PREDICT AND ANTICIPATE THE UNANTICIPATED FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD THOSE THINGS THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO GO TO SLEEP AND DON'T HAPPEN. WE HAVE TO CONDUCT OURSELVES IN A WAY THAT EXPECTS THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? BUT TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY WE ASKED FOR THIS VEHICLE BACK IN TWENTY TWENTY FOUR YEARS AGO HOPING THAT ONE DAY WE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT OTHERWISE WE'D HAVE TO PLAN TO PAY, YOU KNOW, GENERAL FUND MONEY UPWARDS OF TWO HUNDRED FIFTY TO THREE HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AND WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO PROVIDE THAT MISSION THAT I SPOKE OF AND DO IT IN A COST EFFECTIVE WAY THAT REALLY AMPLIFY THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. YOU'VE BEEN WORKING TOO HARD. TWENTY, TWENTY FOUR TWO YEARS AGO. SO YEAH I MEAN AT THE END SO I ALSO WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO ANY PARENTS HERE. I CERTAINLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY THREAT AT THE MOMENT WE DO NOT SHOOTING AND THAT'S A TERRIBLE THING TO HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT OR THINK ABOUT BUT WE HAVE TO DO OUR JOB HERE TOO. SO OK. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU MR. MADISON. YEAH. YOU KNOW WHERE I LAND ON THIS IS IT IS OFFICER SAFETY BUT NOT ONLY OFFICER SAFETY, IT'S IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY. YOU KNOW, WE ARE A COMMUNITY THAT IS AN INTERNATIONAL CITY. WE'RE ALSO COMMUNITY THAT HOSTS LARGE EVENTS AT THE ROSE BOWL REGULARLY INCLUDING UCLA GAMES AND AT THE CONVENTION CENTER AND IN OTHER PARTS OF OUR CITY LARGE DEMONSTRATIONS THIS SATURDAY I WAS AT A LARGE DEMONSTRATION IN OLD PASADENA AND YOU KNOW, TOOK A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE THOSE THOSE EVENTS WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN MEANING THE PUBLIC YOU KNOW, DEMONSTRATIONS AND PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, IF YOU WILL. THE LARGE EVENTS AT THE ROSE BOWL, AT THE CONVENTION CENTER AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE'RE ALSO A CITY THAT WE'RE THE ONLY CITY THAT HOSTS A SEER ONE EVENT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS IN CALIFORNIA AND FOR THE PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE THIS YEAR ONE EVENT IS THE HIGHEST SAFETY CATEGORY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PUTS ON IN AN EVENT ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY AND WE ARE THE ONLY CITY WHO HOSTED THIS YEAR ONE EVENT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE REGRETTABLY WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR AS THE CHIEF PUT IT, FOR THINGS THAT WE DON'T WE WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PREPARE FOR BUT WE DO HAVE TO BE PREPARED AND YOU KNOW, IF WE AREN'T PREPARED THEN YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR MUTUAL AID TO ARRIVE. IT COULD ENDANGER INDIVIDUALS IN OUR POLICE FORCE, OUR FIRE FORCE BUT ALSO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO RESPOND SAFELY THEN THAT WE'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN OVER AND OVER IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY IN THE RECENT HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND SO, YOU KNOW, I IT'S REGRETTABLE THAT WE HAVE TO GO DOWN THIS ROUTE BUT I ALSO THINK IT'S NECESSARY AND YOU KNOW, LET'S LET'S THINK BACK. I MEAN I DON'T DISCOUNT ANY OF THE THINGS THAT MR. HAMPTON SAID OR MR. COLE OR ANYONE ELSE BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PASADENA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE PASSING OF POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS HAD THE BARAKAAT FOR EXAMPLE, IN ITS POSSESSION OVER MANY YEARS NOT CHIEF I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THEY ASK ME HOW LONG WE HAD IT . TWO THOUSAND ONE I'M SORRY 2011 2011 AND I CAN'T THINK OF ONE INSTANCE WHERE IT WAS MISUSED OR WHERE THE PUBLIC SAID, YOU KNOW IT IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN USED IN AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD HUGE DEMONSTRATIONS OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST FEW YEARS IN PASADENA AND WHAT I HEARD FROM RESIDENTS DURING FOR EXAMPLE, THE ICE DEMONSTRATIONS, ANTI ICE DEMONSTRATIONS IS OUR PERSONAL POLICE DEPARTMENT PERFORMED EXCEEDINGLY WELL NOT LIKE OTHER COMMUNITIES. YOU KNOW, WE WE WERE RESPECTFUL. YOU KNOW, WE DID NOT WE DID NOT TAKE ACTIONS THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES UNFORTUNATELY EXPERIENCED IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SO I WOULD CONSIDER OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPONSIBLE, RESPONSIVE AND WE SHOULD LISTEN CAREFULLY WHEN OUR CHIEF AND THE DEPARTMENT SAY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE PREPARED AND THIS IS ONE WAY TO DO IT'S NOT THE ONLY WAY CERTAINLY BUT IT CERTAINLY IS ONE ONE WAY TO DO IT GIVEN GIVEN THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS CITY AND THE EVENTS THAT WE HOLD, WHETHER IT'S PLANNED EVENTS OR NON-PLAN EVENTS SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, DEMONSTRATIONS THAT COME TOGETHER QUICKLY, WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO BE PREPARED TO PROTECT OFFICERS, OTHER FIRST RESPONDERS AND THE PUBLIC DO TWO THINGS VERY IMPORTANT WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID, NOT ALL OF THEM REALLY QUICKLY. ONE IS THAT OUR STRATEGY IS NOT TO DEMONSTRATE MIGHT WITH HAVING THESE VEHICLES. OUR STRATEGY IS TO DEMONSTRATE PREPAREDNESS AND WHEN WE DEPLOY OUR BEARCAT AS AN EXAMPLE, WE KEEP IT HIDDEN. WE KEEP IT IN PLACES WHERE IT CAN'T BE SEEN BY THE PUBLIC UNTIL IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY. WE DO THE BEST WE CAN NOT TO HAVE IT OUT EVEN WHEN WE'RE DRIVING TO TRAINING WE'RE GOING DIRECTLY TO TRAINING PUT INTO USE PUTTING IT RIGHT BACK IN THE GARAGE WHERE IT BELONGS AND SO WE'RE NOT ROLLING UP TO PLACES AND GETTING OUT OF IT AND HAVING DINNER AND DOING THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THE IDEA IS TO USE IT WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE USED. MORE IMPORTANTLY, OUR PHILOSOPHY IS THERE'S TIMES WHERE WE NEED TO BE EARLY ADOPTERS AND THERE'S TIMES WHEN WE DON'T NEED TO BE EARLY ADOPTERS AND WE TRY TO MANAGE THAT AS DEPARTMENT HEADS ACROSS THE SPECTRUM OF CITY GOVERNMENT FOR US IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SOMETIMES WE NEED TO BE THE EARLY ADOPTER SAY LET'S GET ON THIS AND BE PREPARED AND OTHERS WE DON'T. BUT I THINK THERE'S LESSONS TO BE LEARNED FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT INCIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MASS CASUALTY EVENTS. IF YOU TALK ABOUT ROUTE 66 UP IN LAS VEGAS, IF YOU TALK ABOUT ANY OF THE MOST RECENT SCHOOL SHOOTINGS, IT IS THE NEED TO HAVE THESE THINGS READY AND CAPABLE TO GO IN AND RESCUE WHERE WE WOULD HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY EXPONENTIALLY INCREASED LOSS OF LIFE HAD WE NOT IN LAW ENFORCEMENT HAD THE ABILITY TO GO INTO THESE PLACES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND RESCUE PEOPLE, NOT JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT WHICH IS A PLUS AND A NECESSITY BUT CERTAINLY RESCUE OTHER FOLKS AND GET THEM TO THE PRIMARY MEDICAL CARE THAT THEY NEED ONCE THEY'RE INJURED IN ONE OF THESE EVENTS. AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION AS AS A POLICE CHIEF WITH ANYBODY THAT I TALKED TO IN THIS BUSINESS IS THAT WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THREATS THAT ARE SURE TO COME ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, CHIEF. AND YOU KNOW ONE OTHER POINT THAT I'LL TURN TO VICE RIVAS WHO'S IN THE CUBE IN AN ACTIVE SITUATION, AN ACTIVE THREATENING ACTIVE SHOOTER SITUATION, OTHER FIRST RESPONDERS SUCH AS FIREFIGHTERS FOR EXAMPLE, MEDICAL RELIEF CANNOT ENTER UNTIL THE SITUATION IS STABLE AND SAFE AND THAT MEANS THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS NEED TO BE SAFE SO THAT THEY CAN BRING THINGS UNDER CONTROL SO THINGS CAN BE BROUGHT UNDER CONTROL AND OTHER FIRST RESPONDERS SUCH AS FIREFIGHTERS AND MEDICAL STAFF MAY COME IN MIGHT CORRECT ABOUT THAT. IF YOU ARE AND I LIKEN IT TO TRAFFIC. SO THE REASON WHY WE HAVE SUCH A IMPORTANT OUTLOOK ON OUR OFFICERS DRIVING AND BEING PROFESSIONAL AND DOING THOSE KIND OF THINGS IS BECAUSE WHEN EN ROUTE TO AN EMERGENCY CALL, IF THEY CRASH THEY BECOME PART OF THE PROBLEM. THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION. SO USING THAT AS KIND OF A BASELINE THE SAME THING CAN BE SAID WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH TACTICAL ISSUES AND RESCUES IF WE CAN'T ADDRESS IT SAFELY FOR THE OFFICERS TO GET IN AND DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO OR FOR THE MEDICS TO GET IN TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IF WE CAN'T GET THEM IN THERE SAFELY THEN EVERYBODY BECOMES A PART OF THE PROBLEM AND NOW THAT PROBLEM IS JUST EXACERBATED. SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S IT'S A REACH IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANY OF THE NEWSCASTS, ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING AROUND IS WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH DEPUTIES AND OFFICERS BEING KILLED, CERTAINLY PEOPLE THAT ARE HELPLESS IN SCHOOLS AND DIFFERENT PLACES BEING KILLED. WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECOGNIZE WHAT IT IS YOU'RE SAYING. THANK YOU, CHIEF REEVES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU RAISED TWO ISSUES. ONE I THINK IS THE MOST COMPELLING ARGUMENT AT LEAST IN MY VIEW IS THAT WE'VE HAVE A 15 YEAR PLUS TRACK RECORD OF THE BEARCAT WITH NO INCIDENTS. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT THE OTHER ONE YOU RAISE THE ISSUE OF AND DEMONSTRATION THAT'S ACTUALLY THE THING THAT GIVES ME THE MOST ANXIETY ABOUT THIS TYPE OF EQUIPMENT. SO I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD TALK A BIT ABOUT IF IT'S BEEN DEPLOYED IN RESPONSE TO PROTESTS GOING ON IN THE CITY AND IF SO HOW AND HOW OFTEN AND HOW THAT'S DONE WELL TO EACH OF THOSE MOST RECENT DEMONSTRATIONS WE HAVE DEPLOYED IT BUT WE KEEP IT IN THE GARAGE LIKE THIS LAST NO KINGS AND SOME OF THE OTHERS WE PARK IT AHEAD OF TIME IN A GARAGE UNDERGROUND AT THE CONVENTION CENTER SO THAT IF AN EMERGENCY ARISES OUR TEAM CAN DEPLOY FROM THERE BUT WE DON'T LEAVE IT OUT IN THE OPEN FOR EVERYONE TO SEE IT OR LOOK LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO TO MOBILIZE AGAINST PEOPLE WHO ARE PEACEFULLY PROTESTING. WE SIMPLY DON'T LIKE OUR APPROACHES TO BE ON STANDBY IF AN INCIDENT DEVELOPS BUT WE'RE NOT OUT THERE JUST DRIVING IT AROUND INTIMIDATING FOLKS. NOT AT ALL. AND IT'S A THEY'RE PRETTY BIG BEEN INSIDE THEM. THEY'RE HARD TO MANEUVER AND WITH A LOT OF FACTS WE ACTIVELY TRY NOT TO LET PEOPLE SEE THEM WHEN WE'RE DEPLOYING THEM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THINGS LIKE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT WHERE THE KIDS AND THE PEOPLE COME TO LOOK AT THE EQUIPMENT THERE ARE THOSE TIMES WHERE IT IS RELEVANT TO MAKING SURE THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE HAVE THESE THINGS AND HERE'S WHAT IT IS AND THEY GET AN EXPLANATION OF HOW THEY WORK VERY DETAILED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE BUT WHEN IT'S TIME TO DEPLOY THEM WE ONLY WANT THEM OUT ON THE STREET WHEN THERE'S AN ACTIVE THREAT OR AN ACTIVE ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS MOST RECENTLY THERE WAS A SHOOTING THAT WE WERE INVOLVED IN AT LEAST PERIPHERALLY UP IN BURBANK AND IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE WHERE A PERSON WAS UP AGAINST AN EMBANKMENT AT A FREEWAY WHERE IT WAS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET TO THAT PERSON AND IT REQUIRED A LOT OF RESOURCES TO RESPOND AND GO UP THERE AND DEAL WITH THAT PARTICULAR THREAT. THOSE THREATS HAPPEN ALL THE TIME. WE JUST DON'T HEAR A LOT ABOUT THEM, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE OUTSIDE THE PERIMETER OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL TO HAVE THE PROPER EQUIPMENT IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE WE CAN HANDLE THOSE PROBLEMS SO INNOCENT PEOPLE DON'T GET HURT AND THAT'S HOW WE THAT WAY AND THAT'S OUR THAT'S OUR METHOD OF DEPLOYMENT IS WE DON'T PUT OUT THERE UNLESS WE ABSOLUTELY NEED IT. THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION THEN THE LAST POINT TO MAKE IS THAT I GUESS WE'VE BEEN DOING THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT POLICY FOR FIVE, SIX YEARS NOW. YES, IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED EACH TIME AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S EVER BEEN A POINT OF CONTENTION OR DEBATE OR DISCUSSION. SO THERE'S BEEN AT LEAST FROM THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL WE'VE BEEN COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS AND THUS FAR AND SO I SOUNDS LIKE WE WILL JUST CONTINUE ON THAT SAME PATH. YES. YEAH. THANK YOU PERSONALLY IT WAS ALL VERY GOOD POINTS. OK, THAT PUBLIC COMMENT AND CHEAP REMEMBER YOU'RE NOT JUST SAVING US THE COST OF THE EQUIPMENT BUT YOU'RE SAVING US ON TAX AND LICENSE AS WELL. I WOULD MENTION IN IN PERSON HUMAIRA AND THEN WE HAVE FOUR INDIVIDUALS PARTICIPATING ONLINE MICHAEL ARIANA'S CHELLA HAS DONE COSTANO JAMES REAL AND YADI RAMBOLD. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES AND BEFORE YOU START THE CLOCK, I BELIEVE IT'S ALSO PROTOCOL TO MENTION THE NUMBER OF LETTERS RECEIVED WELL OK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OK, I REALLY URGE CITY COUNCIL TO STOP THE ONGOING MILITARIZATION OF PD, THE VEHICLE THAT PD WANTS TO ACQUIRE IS A MINE RESISTANT AMBUSH PROTECTED VEHICLE THAT WAS DESIGNED FOR WAR IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN AND NOT COMMUNITY POLICING. THIS VEHICLE IS WAY MORE THAN THE BURQA AND WAY BEYOND WHAT IS NEEDED BY ANY POLICE DEPARTMENT THE OLYMPICS IS IT GOING TO TURN OUR CITY INTO A WAR ZONE SCORZA SCHOOL SHOOTINGS ARE TERRIBLE BUT THEY ARE VERY, VERY DIFFERENT FROM WAR ZONES. I THINK ACQUIRING THIS WILL RESULT A FURTHER LOSS OF TRUST FROM THE COMMUNITY A TIME IN PD IS TO TRY TRYING TO CREATE A MORE POSITIVE IMAGE. WE NEED AN IMAGE OF COMMUNITY NOT COMBAT. WE REMEMBER FERGUSON AND ALL THE OTHER CITIES WHERE POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE MADE MILITARY RESPONSES TO PEACEFUL PROTESTS . THE SITUATION IN OUR COUNTRY HAS GOTTEN FAR WORSE SINCE FERGUSON NOT BETTER. WHY ARE WE MILITARIZING OUR POLICE? DOES THE PD EXPECT IEDS, LAND IEDS, LANDMINES? THE REPORT FOR REPORT FAILS TO MENTION WHAT THESE THINGS WERE DESIGNED FOR. IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE BEARCAT. THIS IS WAY BEYOND WHAT IS NEEDED FOR A SCHOOL SHOOTING OR FOR SERVING WARRANTS OR RESCUING PEOPLE. WE DON'T NEED THIS KIND OF EQUIPMENT FOR OFFICER SAFETY OR PUBLIC SAFETY. IT'S LIKE USING A SLEDGEHAMMER TO PUT IN A THUMBTACK. PASADENA PREVIOUSLY HAD TWO OF THESE VEHICLES NO MORE. WHY DON'T YOU ASK WHY ONE WAS REQUIRED IN SECRET AND RETURNED IN RESPONSE TO COMMUNITY OUTRAGE. THE OTHER ONE WAS RETURNED BECAUSE WE BASICALLY DECIDED WE DIDN'T MEET OUR NEEDS. THAT'S NOT IN THE REPORT ARE WE BEING SET UP FOR ANOTHER HELIPORT SURPRISE? I'D LIKE TO SEE A WHOLE LOT MORE INFORMATION ON THE COST. NO EVIDENCE WAS PRESENTED ABOUT THE BENEFITS. THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME. WHY WERE NO DATABASE EMPIRICAL STUDIES CITED TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL BENEFITS OF YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. THANK YOU MA'AM. AND NOW THERE'S NO ONE VERY WELL PAID THESE PARENTS PLEASE READ THE COMMENTS. THANK YOU MICHAEL. ARIANA'S FOLLOWED BY COSTANO AND JAMES REALD AND YADI. I'LL RING A BELL WHEN YOU HAVE THIRTY SECONDS LEFT MR. IONIS COULD YOU RIGHT. YEAH I THINK YOU MAY REMEMBER THE CITY COUNCIL COUNCILMAN SPEAKING TODAY IS A BOARD MEMBER OF THE PASSENGER POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION. OUR ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS THE ACQUISITION OF THE ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIER APC WHEN I HIGHLIGHT A FEW POINTS FIRST FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY THIS VEHICLE HAS BEEN ACQUIRED FOR FEDERAL MILITARY SURPLUS PROGRAM WHICH WILL BE AN ESTIMATED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN SAVINGS WITH PURCHASE WHEN COMPARED TO PURCHASING A VEHICLE. ADDITIONALLY, THE APC CAN SERVE AS A BRIDGE UNTIL FUNDING BECOMES AVAILABLE FOR A NEWER AMERICAN SHOULD THAT BE THE DIRECTION THE COUNCIL PREFERS WAITING FOR FUTURE FUNDING SHOULD I MEAN SENIOR OFFICERS IN COMMUNITY WITHOUT AVAILABLE PROTECTED RESOURCES? SECOND OPERATIONAL NEEDS WITH THE OLYMPICS APPROACHING STRINGENCIES WILL FACE SIGNIFICANT DEMANDS ON THEIR OWN RESOURCES. WE CAN ASSUME THAT MUTUAL AID ADDITIONAL ARMORED VEHICLES WILL BE AVAILABLE WHEN PASADENA ACTUALLY NEEDS THEM. WE NEED TO BE PREPARED TO SOLVE OUR OWN PROBLEMS AND RESPOND TO OUR OWN EMERGENCIES. SOME POINTED OUT THAT USING A SECONDARY BETTER CAN UTILIZE ABOUT ELEVEN TIMES BUT THAT NUMBER REFLECTS AVAILABILITY NOT OPERATIONAL NEEDS IN NEARLY EVERY TACTICAL OPERATION. I'M SORRY IT'S ARMED WITH MY SON OVER HERE RIGHT NOW WE'RE OK. WE HAVE MULTIPLE VIDEOS OF SITUATIONS DEMONSTRATING THE VALUE OF HAVING MORE THAN ONE ARMORED VEHICLE DURING LIFE THREATENING SITUATIONS. I'M THIRD OFFICER SAFETY ABC WOULD COMPLEMENT OUR EXISTING BEARCAT MULTIPLEXED ABC SERVE AS A FOUR TACTICAL VEHICLE ALLOWING THE SERGEANT AREA TO FOCUS ON RESCUING THE INJURED OFFICERS AND CIVILIANS. THIS PROVIDES THE ABILITY TO CONDUCT RESCUES TO MAINTAIN A PROTECTIVE TACTICAL RESPONSE. I ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS THE CLAIMS THAT SIMPLY THE BEARCAT SOMEHOW ENDANGERS THE PUBLIC. POSSESSING THE ARMORED VEHICLE DOES NOT BY ITSELF DANGER TO OUR COMMUNITY. ITS PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE PROTECTION DURING DANGEROUS SITUATIONS. CHARACTERIZING THE POSSESSION OF THIS EQUIPMENT AS A THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY IS INFLAMMATORY DISTRACTS FROM A LEGITIMATE DISCUSSION ABOUT ITS INTENDED USE OR SOME BENEFITS. WE SHOULD BE ASKING OURSELVES A MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION ARE WE WILLING TO ACCEPT INCREASED RISK OF AN OFFICER BEING SHOT DURING ATTACK OR EMERGENCY SURGERY? RETIRED TO MOVE ON TO CUSTODY SIR FILED BY JAMES REALD AND YADI CHELLA YOUR MUTED IF YOU YES. HELLO. CAN YOU HEAR? YES WE CAN'T GO AHEAD. HI GOOD EVENING. HI. I'M CALLING TO SUPPORT THE ACQUISITION OF THE ARMORED PERSONNEL CARRIER FOR OUR PASADENA POLICE OFFICERS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS RISK THEIR LIVES DAILY TO PROTECT US AND I FIND IT REALLY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND THE OPPOSITION TO THIS GIFT WHICH WOULD HELP PROTECT BOTH OUR OFFICERS AND OUR PASADENA RESIDENTS AND NOT EVERY AGENCY RECEIVES THIS OPPORTUNITY. DELAYING A DECISION WOULD BE SO UNWISE AS IT COULD JEOPARDIZE OUR CHANCE TO CARS ARMORED CARRIER I KNOW FIRSTHAND THE DEVASTATION OF LOSING A LOVED ONE IN THE LINE OF DUTY. I HAVE BEEN WIDOWED FOR TWENTY ONE YEARS. MY HUSBAND SERVED WITH L.A. COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND WAS KILLED WHILE SERVING HIS COMMUNITY. IF WE CAN GET OFFICERS OUT OF PROTECTION WITH EQUIPMENT THAT COULD ALSO SAVE RESIDENTS DURING A CRISIS, I FIRMLY BELIEVE WE SHOULD SUPPORT THIS ACQUISITION. I ALSO STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO BELIEVES IT SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE. THE POLICE ARE DOING SUCH A FANTASTIC JOB BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS IN THE COMMUNITY BUT THAT'S NOT THE ONLY PART OF THEIR JOB. WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE EMERGENCY CRITICAL INCIDENTS HAVE HAPPENED AND WILL HAPPEN SO LET'S NOT PUT OUR HEAD IN THE SAND AND PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES. I FOR ONE WANT TO KNOW THAT MY POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT AND TOOLS TO PROTECT ME AND MY FAMILY ARE DOING THEIR ABSOLUTE BEST SO I DO SUPPORT THE ACQUISITION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO JAMES REAL FATHER YARDIE WAS REAL MR. REAL ONE SECOND AT THE END SIR, WE CANNOT HEAR YOU. LET'S GO TO YADI AND WE'LL COME BACK TO MR. REAL, YOUR DADDY ONE SECOND. HI. YES. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IF THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES NO ACTION AND ALLOWS PD TO GO AHEAD AND ACQUIRE THIS AND ROB THAT I WILL MAKE SURE THAT PASADENA RESIDENTS FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY GENERAL BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR DUTY AND ENSURING THAT THERE IS AN ORDINANCE THE POLICY IN PLACE BEFORE THE ACQUISITION OF THIS SPECIFIC VEHICLE. I AM SHOCKED THAT TO HEAR SO MANY INACCURATE AND MR. STATEMENTS IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT HAD TO BE CORRECTED THE BEARCAT MOSTLY IS MOSTLY DEPLOYED FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS. IT'S IN THE ANNUAL REPORT. NOWHERE HAVE WE HAD A CONVERSATION IN TWENTY TWENTY FOUR SINCE THEN ABOUT WHY WE NEED AN M RAP VERSUS ANOTHER FOR EXAMPLE BEARCAT AND IT IS DISINGENUOUS TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS LIKE THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN AWARE BECAUSE A BEFORE ANY ONE HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS SINCE TWENTY TWENTY TWO. FURTHERMORE I DON'T WANT TO BE DICTATING EXACTLY WHAT VEHICLE OR WHAT MILITARY EQUIPMENT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BUT IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE FOLLOW PROCESS AND PROTOCOL BECAUSE EIGHTY FOUR EIGHTY ONE WAS ENACTED SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS KIND OF SCENARIO. SO PLEASE DO NOT SIT ON THEIR HANDS AND SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM THAT YOU HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS AND YOU REALLY HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE ADDITIONAL MILITARY EQUIPMENT PASADENA POLICE IS ACQUIRING AND I DON'T WANT TO HEAR A FEAR MONGERING ABOUT THESE HYPOTHETICAL SITUATIONS AND WE HAVE OUR ARMOR TO THE TEETH FOR VERY, VERY LOW RISK SCENARIOS AND WHERE THERE ARE POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVES. SO YES, IS THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO JAMES REAL TRY ONE MORE TIME REAL. YEP. OH THERE YOU GO. GO WELCOME. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AS A RESIDENT AND MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, I'M URGING A COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ACCEPTING THIS ARMORED VEHICLES. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MUCH HAS BEEN SAID TONIGHT AND IN THE CORRESPONDENCE TO COUNCIL USING INACCURATE LANGUAGE DESCRIBING THE VEHICLE, THE FEARS OF HOW IT WILL BE USED AND THE MOTIVATIONS BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. FIRST I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THIS DECISION REPRESENTS. THIS IS A CITY DEPARTMENT ACTING WITH AGILITY TO ACQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL CAPABILITY A LOW COST TO THE TAXPAYER, NOT AN ATTEMPT TO CIRCUMVENT RULES OR AVOID SCRUTINY AND ABBREVIATE THE ACQUISITION PROCESS SHOULD NOT BE CONFUSED WITH THE LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY OR SOUND JUDGMENT. SECOND, WE NEED TO EVALUATE THIS DECISION THROUGH CRITICAL THINKING, NOT EMOTION. THIS VEHICLE IS NOT INTENDED FOR ROUTINE PATROL IS AN ADDITIONAL RESOURCE FOR CRITICAL INCIDENT SITUATIONS INVOLVING ARMED SUSPECTS, ACTIVE THREATS OR CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE OFFICERS MUST RESPOND TO GUNFIRE TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY. WE SHOULD BE ASKING WHETHER HAVING THIS CAPABILITY WILL SAVE LIVES. THE ANSWER IS YES IN KEEPING WITH THE COMMENTS BY THE MAYOR, WE ALSO NEED TO JUDGE THE PAST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BY ITS OWN RECORD, PARTICULARLY ITS CONDUCT DURING PROTESTS OVER THE YEARS RATHER THAN VIEWING THIS DECISION EXCLUSIVELY THROUGH THE LENS OF NATIONAL CONTROVERSIES AS A MILITARY OFFICER AND COMBAT VETERAN WHO HAS USED THESE VEHICLES EXTENSIVELY, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE PEOPLE WHO RUN TOWARD GUN FIRE TO PROTECT OTHERS DESERVE EVERY REASONABLE TOOL WE CAN PROVIDE TO HELP KEEP THEM SAFE, ASCRIBING BAD FAITH MOTIVES TO OUR POLICE OFFICERS OR TO THE EQUIPMENT THEY USE DOES NOTHING TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY. IT REPLACES EVIDENCE BASED JUDGMENT WITH ASSUMPTIONS WE OWE OUR OFFICERS, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR COMMUNITY DECISION GRANTED FACTS OPERATIONAL NEED AND RESPONSIBLE STEWARDSHIP. FOR THOSE REASONS I RECOMMEND WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ACCEPTING THIS ARMORED VEHICLE AND ADDING THIS CAPABILITY TO THE PASADENA CRITICAL INCIDENT RESPONSE RESOURCES. SIR, YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. THANK YOU SIR. I THINK THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC COMMENT TO THAT LAST POINT I DO THINK IT'S WELL ALMOST THE LAST POINT RAISED BY THE LAST SPEAKER. IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WHEN THERE IS DANGER PARTICULARLY IN THE SHOOTING WE ASK EVERYONE TO RUN AWAY FROM IT BUT WE ASK POLICE OFFICERS TO RUN TO IT AND WE DO HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT THEY CAN DO SO AS SAFELY AS POSSIBLE. IT'S SORRY JUST TO FINISH UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT THERE WERE SIX LETTERS IN OPPOSITION TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVING THE ACQUISITION OF AN ARMORED VEHICLE FOR THE PASSAGE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THOSE LETTERS WERE POSTED ONLINE, DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL ARE PART OF THE RECORD FOR THIS ITEM. THANK YOU, MR. COLE. YOU'RE UP FOR THE REASONS ABLY ARTICULATED BY THE MAYOR AND THE VICE MAYOR. I HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF TRUST IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY HAVE DEMONSTRATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR IN IN THE USE OF THIS KIND OF EQUIPMENT. AND I HAVE EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE RESPONSIBLE IN THEIR USE OF THIS EQUIPMENT. WHAT CONTINUES TO BOTHER ME IS THE SLIPPERY THE ARGUMENTS KEEP BEING MADE. THE MARGIN OF SAFETY. WHY NOT WHY NOT REPLACE ALL OF OUR CARS WITH BEARCATS? RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WHEN WE RESPOND TO A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INCIDENT OR TO A ROBBERY IN PROGRESS, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE PEOPLE WILL SHOOT AT THE POLICE OFFICERS. WHY NOT REPLACE THE BEARCAT WITH A WITH ANOTHER ARMORED PERSONNEL VEHICLE BECAUSE SOMEONE MIGHT HAVE GREATER CALIBER FIREPOWER IN A TERRORISM INCIDENT. IT'S A SLIPPERY. THAT'S THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE I DON'T I STRONGLY AGREE WITH YOU, MR. MAYOR AND WITH THE VICE MAYOR ABOUT AND WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF OFFICER SAFETY AND AND I THINK WE SHOULD ERRED ON THE SIDE OF OFFICER SAFETY. BUT I'M NOT I'M NOT PERSUADED THAT THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BUY MORE AND BIGGER AND MORE AND BIGGER UNTIL WE BECOME, YOU KNOW, A MILITARIZED FORCE. AND THAT'S I THINK WHAT MR. HAMPTON AND I ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. DIFFERENT PEOPLE WILL DRAW THE LINE IN DIFFERENT PLACES AND I RESPECT AND THIS IS A HARD LINE FOR ME TO DRAW ON THIS IS THIS IS A BIG MILITARY VEHICLE DESIGNED FOR WARFARE AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE MORE CHEAPLY AND USE IT FOR THOSE VERY, VERY TRAGIC AND RARE INCIDENTS THAT MIGHT OCCUR . I THINK THAT'S A COMPELLING ARGUMENT. BUT AGAIN, IF WE CAN DO IT FOR THIS ONE, WHAT'S THE NEXT ONE? WHAT'S THE NEXT ONE? WHAT'S THE NEXT ONE? I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT AT SOME POINT TO DRAW A LINE WHETHER THAT'S HERE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE. I THINK REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE. OK, THANK YOU ALL. VERY GOOD DISCUSSION EVERYONE. I KNOW THIS IS INFORMATION BUT I WOULD LIKE TO RECORD REFLECT THAT I WAS OPPOSED. THANK THANK YOU. YOU KNOW THIS IS THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO TRY TO BALANCE EVERYTHING, MAKE DIFFICULT DECISIONS. I FOR THE PURPOSE OF NOT DUCKING THIS, I WILL. SECOND OF MOTION, MR. HAMPTON WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION SO WE WE TAKE A VOTE ON THE RECORD. I SAID IF IF NO NO I DIDN'T I DIDN'T MAKE A MOTION. IF YOU DON'T IF THAT'S NOT NECESSARY THEN IT'S NOT NECESSARY. I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY BUT I CAN COUNT BUT I DEFER EVERYONE WE CAN ALL COUNT TO FIVE OK SO SOME OF US HAVE AN EASIER TIME OF COUNTING TO FIVE THAN OTHERS. I KNOW BUT BUT YEAH I DON'T KNOW WELL BEYOND FIVE BUT I KNOW WE CAN COUNT TO FIVE OK WITH THAT. THANK YOU TO THE STAFF FOR YOUR WORK. THANK YOU FOR THE PUBLIC FOR YOUR INTEREST AND WE'LL MOVE ON ITEM TEN SEVEN I'M SORRY ITEM SEVEN IS NOW BEFORE MR. SUSCEPTIBILITIES MR. JONES. THANKS MARION. OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION I WILL RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM BECAUSE MY EMPLOYER IS INVOLVED WITH THIS STORM WATER CAPTURE PROJECT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. IN ESSENCE, A TOUGH WEEK FOR COUNCIL MEMBER JONES TO LEAVE SO HE CAN HEAR US LIKE THERE'S NOT SPEAKERS IN THE BACK. SO IN ESSENCE OF TIME I THINK AT LEAST I'VE SEEN THE STAFF REPORT IS VERY THOROUGH. I'VE ALSO LOOKED AT THE PRESENTATION EVEN TODAY I WAS ONE OF GO STRAIGHT TO OF PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE ANOTHER ITEM THAT HAS A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT SO I WILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS BUT I DON'T NEED A FULL PRESENTATION TO POSE QUESTIONS AND I CAN DO THAT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT. OK, SO MARCUS RENNER AND THEN YOU ARE READING ALDO, UH, WHO IS PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY AS MR. RENNER'S COMING UP I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT FOUR LETTERS IN OPPOSITION TO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WERE ADVOCATING FOR THE INITIAL STUDY FOR AN INITIAL STUDY TO BE CONDUCTED AT THE SITE AND ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WERE SUBMITTED TO THE QUICKSTOP POSTED ONLINE AND DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL AND ARE PART OF THE RECORD FOR THIS ITEM. MR. RENNER, TWO MINUTES GO AHEAD. OK, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS STAFF AND THEIR ABILITY TO BRING IN MEASURED BU GRANT MONEY. WE WE I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE CLEAN WATER BUT AND INFILTRATION BUT I DO WANT TO SHARE THIS ARTICLE FROM THE PALESTINIAN STAR NEWS OF SEPTEMBER 8TH, 1921 RECLAIM ACREAGE AT BROOKSIDE BY MEANS OF RUBBISH DUMPING THREE ACRES OF VALUABLE LAND IN THE ARROYO SECO HAS BEEN RECLAIMED BY PARK SUPERINTENDENT JACOB ALBRECHT AND ONE OF THE BIG FLOODS A FEW YEARS AGO A PART OF BROOKSIDE PARK WAS WASHED AWAY. THIS WAS THE CHANNEL OF THE STREAM WAS STRAIGHTENED HAD BEEN STRAIGHTENED. PARK SUPERINTENDENT OLBRICH STARTED THE WORK OF RECLAIMING THE LAND, FILLING THE DEEP HOLES WITH RUBBISH WITH THE RESULTS THAT THE RECLAMATION PROJECT IS NOW COMPLETE. MR ALBRECHT NOW PLANS TO MOVE THE BASEBALL GROUNDS TO THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF THE PARK AND THEN WE WILL TRANSFER ABOUT TWO THOUSAND YARDS OF EARTH TO THE RECLAIM GROUND WHICH WILL THEN BE PLANTED AND IS TO BE USED AS PARKING GROUNDS. SO I SHARED THIS INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS STAFF AND I WAS JUST GRAND IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT THIS WAS NOT MENTIONED. YOU TALK ABOUT A CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION IS NO UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE FACT THAT THIS PROJECT IS KIND OF PLANNED TO GO IN ON TOP OF A RUBBISH HEAP I FEEL IS AN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE AND SO DOES THAT DOES THAT DISQUALIFY THIS PROJECT? I DON'T KNOW. THERE WERE SOME SORT OF COURSE DONE I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WERE DEEP ENOUGH BUT DOES IT QUALIFY FOR A TERRIBLE EXEMPTION? YOU THAT'S FOR YOU TO DECIDE. I JUST WANT YOU TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. YOU THANK YOU. AND THEN NEXT IS PILLAR REYNALDO. GOOD EVENING. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I SUPPORT THE BROOKSIDE PARK STORMWATER CAPTURE PROJECT. EVERY ONE OF PASADENA'S WATERSHED PROJECTS ARE CONNECTED AND VITAL TO THE FUTURE HEALTH OF OUR RIVER AND OCEAN. IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE TO CONTINUE TO SEND UNTREATED WATER FULL OF TOXINS INTO THE CHANNEL. THE BROOKSIDE PROJECT NOT ONLY CLEANS AND CAPTURES WATER, IT WILL BUILD MUCH NEEDED VITAL NATIVE HABITAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS SO MUCH CONFUSION AROUND THESE PROJECTS BECAUSE FOR REASONS I DO NOT UNDERSTAND, MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE