TRUE COMMISSION

TRUE COMMISSION — Jun 4, 2026

>> SO IT'S 04:00PM, 6/4/2026, CALL TO ORDER THE TAXATION, REVENUE AND UTILIZATION OF EXPENDITURES. THE TRUTH COMMISSION, THIS SESSION BEGINS THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS THAT WILL MEET FROM 4 UNTIL 4.30, AT WHICH TIME WE WILL RECONVENE AS THE FULL COMMISSION. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PRESENTATIONS IN THE COMMITTEE OTHER THAN THE AUDITORS PRESENTATIONS. AND SINCE WE DO HAVE 4 AUDIT REPORTS, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD, TOMMY, GET STARTED. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO THIS, TAKE 15 MINUTES. MAYBE GO THROUGH THE FIRST 2 AND THEN WE WILL UNDER ITEM 2 OF THE COMMISSION AGENDA. WE WILL PICK UP THE OTHER 2. THAT IS THAT SOUND? YES, SIR, TO CHAIR ME TO. >> GO THROUGH THE COURT. LISA MARIE'S, I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY A FIRST OR ARGUMENT. WAIT TILL TO THE COMMISSION IT. >> THIS WE TELL THE COMMISSION AT LARGE IS ASSEMBLED AS MANY OF THEM AS POSSIBLE. SURE. OKAY. WE MAY NOT HAVE AN EDGE. THIS IT MAY JUST BE HERE TO LISTEN TODAY. THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION COUNSELOR'S OFFICE RELEASED FOR REPORT SINCE LAST YEAR COMMISSION MEETING REPORT NUMBER 8.32, WHICH IS THE FOLLOW-UP ON THE STORMWATER FEE AUDIT WAS WAS OR WAS RELEASED ON MAY 14TH THE 2026. THIS WAS THE SECOND FOLLOW-UP ON THE STORMWATER FEE. THE FIRST FOLLOW-UP WAS DONE BACK IN 2023. THE ORIGINAL AUDIT OBJECTIVE WAS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT STORMWATER FEES WERE ACTUALLY CALCULATED, WHICH INCLUDED GROWS AMOUNTS THAN ANY REDUCTIONS, ADJUSTMENTS, CREDITS OR DISCOUNTS AND THAT THEY WERE ASSESSED AND COLLECTED. THE ORIGINAL AUDIT HAD 23 ISSUES. THE FIRST REPORT THERE WERE 11 ISSUES REMAINING AFTER THIS FOLLOW-UP. THERE ARE STILL 7 ISSUES REMAINING. THE MAIN ISSUES THAT ARE REMAINING ARE THAT THE THE PUBLIC WORKS. A STORM WATER AREAS STILL FINALIZING SOME POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO HOW HOW COMPACTED DIRT IS CALCULATED FOR IMPERVIOUS AREAS FOR STORM WATER AND THEN ALSO REGARDING OF THE UTILIZATION OF 3RD PARTY VENDORS DOING AERIAL PHOTOS TO REVIEW NON-RESIDENTIAL PARCELS AND COMPARE THAT INFORMATION TO THEIR CUSTOMER BILLING SERVICE SYSTEM THAT AS IT RELATES AGAIN TO COMPACTED DIRT AND TO IDENTIFY THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS THAT YOU SEE THERE, THOSE THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT WE'RE STILL NOT BEING DONE ON THAT. ALSO THE 9 AND INCOMPLETE APPLICATIONS FOR CHAIRED ONE FAITH-BASED REPORTS, ORGANIZATIONS FOR FOR THE STORMWATER FEE CALCULATION AND THEN THERE WAS A 4TH ONE THAT DEALT WITH C THE DEALT WITH THE APPLICANTS FOR PINE CREDITS TOWARD STORMWATER FEE SHOULD BE BASED ON OPERATING PERMITS RATHER THAN A CONSTRUCTION PERMIT. AND WE FOUND THAT THEY WERE THAT THAT WAS HAVE STILL HAPPENING AS WELL AS WAS DRESSED IN THE ORIGINAL AUDIT. AND THOSE ISSUES ARE STILL OUTSTANDING FOR THIS FOLLOW UP. SO THEY'LL BE A 3RD FOLLOW-UP ON THIS. >> WHAT WAS THE DATE? THE ORIGINAL DATE OF THE AUDIT? THEIR ORIGINAL DATE OF THE AUDIT WAS APRIL 9TH OF 2019. AND THEN THERE'S A FOLLOW-UP IN 2023, CORRECT? AND THIS IS THE SECOND FOLLOW-UP, CORRECT? SO WOULD BE FAIR TO US. ASSUME THAT THE 3RD FOLLOW-UP WILL BE SOMETIME IN 2029, DEPENDING ON WORKLOAD AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT DON'T HAVE AN EXACT DATE. BUT YEAH DOES. DOES THE CITY HAVE A POLICY ON HOW SOON AFTER AN AUDIT IS DONE, THAT ALL OUTSTANDING ITEMS MUST BE RESOLVED? BECAUSE AT THIS POINT IT WILL BE 10 YEARS AFTER THE INITIAL AUDIT. PROBABLY HALF OF THE PEOPLE WORKING IN THAT AGENCY WILL BE GONE BY THEN TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A POLICY OF HOW MANY TIMES WE IT JUST DEPENDS ON THIS. YOU KNOW HOW WELL THEY ARE ADDRESSING THE ISSUES. THE CAUSE IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE THIS ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE. >> AS FOR THE AND AND I KNOW YOU HAVE CHANGES AND MINISTRATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THERE'S REALLY NO SET A TIME LIMIT. IT'S JUST. >> BECAUSE AT THIS RATE WE COULD BE ON OUR 3RD MAYOR BY THE TIME THIS HAS EVER RESULT AT. WELL, YES, OR OR SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF TECHNOLOGY CHANGES OR SOMETHING, THE RECOMMENDATIONS NO LONGER APPLICABLE. YOU KNOW, WE MAY JUST WAIVE THOSE, BUT THEN WE WILL HAVE THEM READY FOR WAR. WE WILL TEST THE NEW PROCEDURE WITHOUT WITH ANOTHER FULL AUDIT. WE WON'T. WE WON'T TEST A NEW PROCEDURE IN A FOLLOW-UP WILL TESTED NOW. >> TO FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS, BUT I'D LIKE TO GIVE THE OTHER MEMBERS CHANCE TO ASK THE QUESTION FIRST, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS AUDIT? MY FIRST QUESTION IS, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT HEALTH COM PACKED ITS OIL IS CALCULATED FOR HIM PERMEABLE AREA. >> WELL, THAT WAS THE POINT OF THE FOLLOW-UP. OUR TO THE POINT OF THE STORM WATER IS THE AMOUNT OF THE FEE IS CALCULATED ON THEM ON THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA. OKAY. THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO CREATE RUNOFF. CORRECT. COMPACTED DIRT AND I WAS ON THIS ODD. IT'S ABOUT THE COMPACTED DIRT EFFECTS THAT SOMEHOW BUT 6. >> BECAUSE IT'S DENSE ARE THERE FOR A YEAR AND WON'T LIKELY TO BE ACCEPTED SWORD WATER PARK IN RUSSIAN FRONT OF SO. >> THEY'RE THERE. THE POLICIES ON HOW THAT IS CALCULATED HAVE NOT BEEN FINALIZED YET. I BELIEVE THE THAT. >> THE >> PUBLIC WORKS HAD THE POLICY IN PLACE, BUT THERE WAS LIKE A TIME, BUT IT HAD NOT BEEN APPROVED YET. >> SO SO PUBLIC DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS HAS ADOPTED A POLICY OR HAS PROPOSED A POLICY AND IT IS REQUIRED TO BE ADOPTED BY WHOM THE CITY COUNCIL. NO, NO, IT WOULD BE OF BY THE BY THE HEAD OF PUBLIC WORKS, OK OR THE HEAD OF THE STORMWATER AREA. OKAY. AND WHEN WAS THAT POLICY PROPOSED? I HAD THAT. I DO NOT KNOW. OKAY. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT IT WAS PROPOSED IN 2019 AND IT WAS THE SUBJECT OF THE FOLLOW-UP IN TWENTY-TWENTY 3 C? >> I DON'T BELIEVE IT WAS PROPOSED. IN 2019 WE FOUND RECOMMENDED IN THE FIRST FOLLOW-UP. ANY POLICIES REGARDING SECOND FOLLOW-UP, WE FOUND THAT THEY HAD IMPLEMENTED AS A REVIEW PROCESS, BUT THEY HAVEN'T FINALIZED ANY WRITTEN REPELS. HE'S OR PROCEDURES OF THOSE ARE FOR MANUAL UPDATES ON THE ICE FOR THE BILLING. >> OKAY. IT WAS BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND FOLLOW-UP UGLY SOMETIME BETWEEN 2019, 2023. 2023 2026. OKAY. SOME SOME TIME BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND FOLLOW-UP. THERE WAS A PROPOSAL SUBMITTED WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT PENDING APPROVAL BY THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS OR THE DIVISION HEAD WHO HAD TO APPROVE THE POLICY DIVISION HEAD FIRST STORM WATER MANAGEMENT OR THE DEPARTMENT HEAD FOR IT WOULD IT WOULD GO TO THE DIVISION HAD AND THEN ULTIMATELY AND I THINK THE DEPARTMENT HEAD IN IT AND THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT THAT POLICIES EVER BEEN APPROVED ARE ADOPTED FINALIZED. CORRECT? SAID SO. SOMETIME BETWEEN 20 23 IN 2026. THIS POLICY WAS PROPOSED. THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR UNDER THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION HAS NEVER TAKEN ACTION. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT I I DON'T KNOW THE DATES FOR SURE ON THAT. SO I I WOULD HESITATE TO SAY THAT IT WAS A CANNED. YOU RESEARCH THAT BRING IT BACK TO US AND AUGUST. SURE, AT LAST MY SECOND FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. YOU MADE REFERENCE TO HOW THE SEA IS CALCULATED FOR NONPROFITS. YOU EXPAND ON THAT. PLEASE. NOT A SUDDEN I AND APPLICATIONS FOR CHARITABLE IN FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATION, OK? SO THE THE CHARITABLE IN FAITH, FAITH BASED ORGANIZATIONS HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF APPLYING FOR AN EXEMPTION FROM THE FEE. YES. AND HAS THAT POLICY BEEN ADOPTED? IT'S MY FAULT FOR NOT LISTENING CAREFULLY ENOUGH. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. CAN USE REREAD THAT SECTION FOURS? YES. WELL, I WAS GOING TO SAY DURING THE SECOND FOLLOW-UP TESTS, WE FOUND THAT 4 OUT OF 5 OF THE APPLICATIONS REVIEWED HAD INCOMPLETE APPLICATIONS EITHER NOT SIGNED. RAUL BOXES NOT CHECKED AND ALL 5 HAD REQUIRED FORMS THAT THEY WERE NOT SAVED, HAD REQUIRED FORMS THAT WERE NOT SAVED. IN OTHER WORDS, MISSING PROPERTY APPRAISER PRINT OUTS. SUNBIZ FILING SHOWING NOT-FOR-PROFIT STATUS WITH THE STATE ARE PROGRAM AFFIDAVITS. SO THEY THE APPLICATIONS WERE INCOMPLETE, RIGHT? BUT THEY WERE RECEIVING THE CREDIT. SO THE CITY HAS GRANTED A CREDIT ON THE STORMWATER FEE BASED ON AN INCOMPLETE APPLICATION BY THE FOR BY THE RESPECTIVE THAT AND THE PROFIT OR FAITH-BASED MEDITATION. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. YES. SO WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE RECEIVING A CREDIT FOR THE STORM WATER FEE, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT BE ENTITLED TO IT OR THE APPLICATION WAS INCOMPLETE. I MEAN THAT THEY WERE GIVEN THAT THEY READ IT FOR THE FEE. YOU KNOW, THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THAT WE DO NOT OKAY. CAN YOU FIND THAT OUT AND REPORT TO US IN AUGUST, PLEASE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. TYSON, I'M SORRY. GOOD EVENING. IN REFERENCE TO THAT. HOW OFTEN DO THOSE APPLICATIONS SUPPOSED TO COME IN OFTEN? DO THEY REAPPLY? I AM NOT SURE. IT MAY BE JUST BE THE FIRST TIME THE EYE. I DON'T KNOW. LOT FIND THEM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. ONE AND WE GO ON TO. >> AUDIT NUMBER. >> 906. THE EMPLOYEE REIMBURSEMENT AUDIT FOR NUMBER 906, EMPLOYEE REIMBURSEMENT AUDIT. THIS WAS RELEASED ON MAY 15TH AND THIS WAS DONE. BASICALLY WHAT WE DID WAS WE WE WE LOOKED IT EMPLOYEES REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM WHICH IS MAINLY RELATED CITY TRAVEL. OKAY. AND THE EMPLOYEE SUBMIT THEIR EXPENSE REPORTS REQUEST REIMBURSEMENT FOR EXPENSES THAT WERE PAID OUT OF POCKET BY AN EMPLOYEE TO HAVE. BUT I HAVE A BUSINESS PURPOSE SUCH AS TRAVELING EXPENSES MILEAGE PER DIEM. OUR TRAINING EXPENSES AT THE TIME OF ARE THE COUNTY DIVISION WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EMPLOYEE REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM. COUNTY STAFF WORKED THIS EXPENSE AUDITORS REVIEWED AND APPROVED EXPENSE. REPORTS SUBMITTED BY DEPARTMENTS UNINSURED CAN PLACE A POLICY REQUIREMENTS PERIOD WHERE WE LOOKED AT DURING FISCAL YEAR. 24 25 THE CITY PROCESSED 2,598 EMPLOYMENT REIMBURSEMENT ITEMS TOTALING $403,865. WE DID A SAMPLE TESTING ON 185 TRANSACTIONS TOTALING A $28,077. PLUS OF A DETAILED TESTING. WE ALSO LOOK TO CASH ADVANCES. EMPLOYEES CAN REQUEST CASH, ADVANCE ADVANCES. IT'S NOT ALL THAT COMMON SO MUCH SO THAT WE HAD TO GO BACK TO FEBRUARY OF FEBRUARY, 29TH OF 2020, WHICH IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW ACCOUNTING SYSTEM AND THROUGH AND WE LOOK FROM 2/29/2020 THROUGH 9/30/2025. THE CITY ONLY ISSUED 36 CASH ADVANCES DURING THAT THAT TIME PERIOD THAT THE CASH ADVANCES TO $22,011 AND THEY WERE HAVE ANY OF THAT. 36 FOR 22,000, SOMEWHERE AROUND $800. YES. WHY WOULD THESE CASH ADVANCES BEING MADE EMPLOYEES? DO THEY NOT HAVE A PEAK ART? THE CARDS? >> BUT THEY MAY NOT HAVE A PEAK HARD. THEY MAY NOT HAVE A CREDIT CARD. THE MAIN EFFORT WAS MADE RIGHT? SO THEY CAN REQUEST A CASH ADVANCE FOR TRAVEL. WHAT WE FOUND, IT APPEARS THAT OVERALL THE EMPLOYEE REIMBURSEMENTS FOR APPROPRIATE, THEY WERE DOCKED 6 EFFICIENTLY, DOCUMENTED, PROPERLY APPROVED AND ACCURATELY REPORTED. >> WE DID FIND SIGNIFICANT TIME IN THIS ISSUES AND SOME ISSUES AND CONTROL WEAKNESSES RELATED. 2 OTHER AREAS ARE ISSUES INCLUDED. THE THEY HAD THERE WERE MISSING MISSING INCOMPLETE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. WE FOUND CASH ADVANCES WERE NOT PROPERLY UNTIMELY CLOSED IN THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM WHICH CREATES PROBLEMS AND ENSURING THAT THE FUNDS WERE UTILIZED PROPERLY. WE FOUND TIME IN THIS ISSUES WITH THE PROCESSING OF EXPENSE REPORTS AND SOME THAT HAVE NOT BEEN FULLY PROCESSED. WE FOUND AN INCORRECT SYSTEM CONFIGURATION FOR ME. REIMBURSEMENT CALCULATIONS BASED ON TIME BASED ON THE TIME ENTER BY TRAVELERS AND THEN THERE WERE SOME LIMITED ACCURATE EMPLOYEE INVESTMENTS AND SOME THAT WERE NOT PROPERLY ARE SUPPORTED. WE ALSO FOUND SOME USER ACCOUNTS OF 4 FORMER EMPLOYEES AND WE'RE NOT TIMELY DEACTIVATED. AND WE FOUND THAT. AND THEN WE FOUND AT THE EXPENSE MONITOR SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS FOR EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVE JUST WERE NEEDED. DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. THERE WERE THERE ARE SOME NUMEROUS. THERE WERE SOME DEFICIENCIES AND THE PROCEDURES, FOR EXAMPLE, TYPES OF THINGS THAT CAN BE REIMBURSED FOR AND THEN NO DOLLAR LIMIT BEING IDENTIFIED FOR REIMBURSEMENTS THAT ARE MISSING RECEIPTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. CASH ADVANCES WERE NOT PROPERLY INTO NOT TIME TO CLOSE THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM, CASH ADVANCES HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED WITHIN 5 DAYS OF RETURNED FROM TRAVEL THEM FROM THAT THAT WAS UP AND HAVE. THAT WAS NOT HAPPENING FOR $5,108, A 22,000 AND $11. WE'RE NOT CLOSE PROPERLY BECAUSE THERE WERE NO EXPENSE REPORT THAT WAS CREATED OR EXPENSE. REPORTS HAVE BEEN IN PENDING STATUS FOR OVER 3 YEARS. FOR 16,006 EARNED $53 OF THE TWENTY-TWO DOT $1011 AND CASH ADVANCES EXPENSE REPORT WAS NOT SUBMITTED WITHIN THE 5 WORKING DAYS OF THE TRAVELERS RETURN THINGS LIKE THAT. WELL KNOWN THIS AUDIT. AND SO I COULD KEEP GOING IF YOU'D LIKE, I THINK I'VE HEARD ENOUGH. >> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY SAID THIS TO CHAIRMAN? YES, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE RECEIPTS. I ESPECIALLY FOR THE CASH ADVANCE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE CASH ADVANCE. AND ALSO THERE ARE ANY CASES THAT THEY DID NOT PROVIDE RECEIPTS. >> WE FAN WELL, I MEAN, THERE. >> PROBABLY WERE BECAUSE THEY WERE IN THE EXPENSE REPORT WASN'T CREATED. I WANT TO TOUCH THE RECEIPTS TO THE EXPENSE REPORT. SO WHAT DOES THE >> SUPERVISION FOR LACK OF BETTER WORD 20? THEY DO WHEN SOMEBODY GOES OUT OF TOWN WHERE THEY'RE DOING AND THEY GIVE THEM AN ADVANCE, SOME NUMBER 500 TO ONE OR WHATEVER. AND THEY COME BACK AND THEY DON'T DO REPORTED, DON'T TURN RECEIPTS. IS THAT THE MEDIA UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY GET AUDITED OF SOME POINT? BUT IS THERE ANY REPERCUSSION, EVEN THE COMPANY? I WORK FOR A FEW OUT OF TOWN. YOU GOT TO COME BACK. WE'RE RECEIPTS. >> YOU KNOW, I EXPECT BECAUSE I KNOW I KNOW WHEN TRAVELING, YOU KNOW, THE LIMITED DONE FOR HIM, CP AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, YOU ATTACH YOUR HOTEL RECEIPT. MEALS ARE A PER DIEM. YEAH. YOU'RE YANIS THAT AMOUNT FOR BREAKFAST, LUNCH, DINNER LESSORS AND THEN AND THEN YOU GET MILEAGE AND BASED ON THAT. >> THE MILES BASED ON YOUR GOOGLE MAPS, THINGS OK? SO IS ITS KNOWLEDGE, NOT THE FUNDING FOR THE GAELS. THAT'S QUITE AS MILD AS MILEAGE USING THE IRS THINGS AS IT WAS. >> THE CHAIR DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT THERE WAS OUTSTANDING REPORT WAS MEAN PEOPLE DID NOT SUBMIT THEIR EXPENSE AT ALL, WHICH MEANS IT WAS NOT PAID. >> THE WELL FOR THE ADVANCES THAT RD, THESE ARE CASH ADVANCES THAT ALREADY BEEN PAID. >> NO, NOT THE CASH ADVANCE THAT I HEAR. YOU SAY THERE WAS REPORTS NOT SUBMIT. WERE YOU SAYING THERE WAS A REPORT SUBMITTED FOR THE CASH ADVANCE CASH ADVANCE ONLY FOR NOT. NOT NOT FOR SPORTS ADMITTED FOR THAT. THANK YOU. >> WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AN EXPENSE REPORT IS NOT CREATED? OBVIOUSLY, CAN A CITY EMPLOYEE BE REIMBURSED? >> WELL, WHEN THESE ARE FOR. >> THESE ARE FOR THE CASH ADVANCES. THEY BUT THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THE CASH ADVANCE AND THEY HAVE NOT FILED AN EXPENSE REPORT ITS REPORT, CORRECT? THEY HAVE THE MONEY, BUT THEY NEVER HAVE PROVIDED DOCUMENTATION AS TO WHY THE ADVANCE WAS JUSTIFIED. THAT'S AND YOU HAVE A TOTAL NUMBER OF THAT. AND DOLLARS 1005 $1108 OUT OF THE 22,000 IN CASH ADVANCES TO 20 SOMETHING PERCENT. FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY, CASH ADVANCES DON'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN, BUT NOT LIKE THE REGULAR EXPENSE REPORT. YOU KNOW, COME REMINDS ME OF EVERETT DIRKSEN, YOU KNOW, MILLION HERE, A MILLION THERE PRETTY SOON. IT'S REAL MONEY IN THIS CASE, 5,000 HERE, 5,000 THERE. PRETTY SOON. IT'S REAL MONEY. AND I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T. >> THEY HAVE LIKE A THRESHOLD OF AMENDMENTS WHERE THEY DON'T GO AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT IF IT'S BELOW A DOLLAR AMOUNT. WELL, IT WAS. >> I MEAN, WITH THE CASH ADVANCES, KNOW THAT I DON'T KNOW THE REASON WHY THEY DIDN'T, BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD A REPORT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOLLOWED UP ON. WE'RE GOOD WITH OUR LIST OF THE. >> ALL RIGHT. IT'S RUN UP ON 4.25. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> WE WILL GO AHEAD. WE WILL ADJOURN THE CUTS, THE COMMITTEE. WE RESUME AT 4.30, AS THE FULL COMMISSION AND THEN WE WILL RESUME THAT PART OF TODAY'S MEETING. ANY QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIR. >> I WILL HAVE TO LEAVE AT 5 DUE TO A PRIOR ENGAGEMENT, BUT I AM RIGHT AND SOME NOTES REGARDING THE RESOLUTION REGARDING THAT RESOLUTION. AND ALSO REGARDING THE BYLAWS REVISIONS THAT COMMISSIONER BARS PUTTING FORWARD WOULD BE THE PROPER PROCEDURE FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO PASS THAT ALONG WITH YOU IN ACCORDANCE WITH SUNSHINE ON OUR AGENDA WHERE YOU'RE LEAVING AT 5, CORRECT, SIR. SO WE PROBABLY WON'T HAVE A QUORUM. AND I'M SO WE JUST WON'T BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION THAT SO IT'S I GUESS WE COULD DO THAT. SO WE CAN AT LEAST TAKE SOME SORT OF ACTION. SO WHAT TIM, WHAT WE DO, LET'S TAKE A RECESS. WE'LL COME BACK AT 4.30. I WILL LOOK AT THE AGENDA AND WE WILL RESTRUCTURE THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY IS CHAIR. OKAY. AND LIGHT OF THE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCE AND IF MR. BASS I WAS AS YOU SIT WITH THE NEW SHOULD BE OKAY. BUT YOU CAN INVITE LET'S SEE AGENDA AROUND. LET'S DO THAT WHEN WE HAVE TO BECOME PUBLIC COMMENT. FIRST BEFORE WE TAKE ANY BUSINESS OR IS THAT OKAY, COMMISSIONER IN THAT? >> IT IS IT. >> WEEKS SINCE MY SKIN SURGERY TO GET HIMSELF A LITTLE BIT OF PAIN, BUT PROBABLY NOT. 95 1% RECOVERED AT THIS POINT. THE WORK AND WORK WITH IT MAKES A MARK THIS KEVIN, DO ANYTHING ON YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT. OKAY. SO WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS IS IT OK WITH YOU IF WE DELAY YOUR PRESENTATION TILL AUGUST? OKAY. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE STRAIGHT ON. WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THE NUMBER ONE. WE WILL THEN TAKE CARE ITEM NUMBER 7, THEN BE WILL COME BACK TO THE AGENDA. IT IS 4.31. WE WILL NOW CONVENE THE MEETING OF THE >> FULL COMMISSION OF THE TAXATION, REVENUE AND UTILIZATION OF EXPENDITURES. THE TRUTH COMMISSION TODAY IS THURSDAY, JUNE, THE 4TH 2026. WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE 6 OF 11. WE HAVE 6, ANY EXCUSED ABSENCES. IS IT REALLY HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES OF THE MAY BE MEETING IN MAY ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED UNLESS THERE ARE CORRECTIONS AND THE MINUTES. >> SECOND OF ALL THIS IN FAVOR, AYE. >> ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE FOR ACTION. A MEMORANDUM THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU PURSUANT TO ARTICLE 3 SECTION D OF OUR BYLAWS. ALL MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION ARE EXPECTED TO ATTEND ALL MEETINGS ON A REGULAR BASIS. IF ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION FAILS TO A 10 TO 3 SUCCESSIVE MEETINGS OF THE COMMISSION WITHOUT CAUSE. AND WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL OF THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION, THE COMMISSION SHALL DECLARE THE MEMBERS SEAT VACANT AND A VACANCY SHALL BE FILLED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THIS PARTICULAR PROVISION OF THE BYLAWS IS DERIVED FROM SECTION 50.1, 0, 4, OF THE ORDINANCE CODE OF THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE. THAT SECTION OF THE CODE RELATES TO ADVISORY BOARDS AND BODIES OF THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE. ACCORDING TO THE ATTENDANCE RECORD OF THE COMMISSION TO MEMBERS ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE EXPECTATION OF MEETING ATTENDANCE. COMMISSIONER ALEXANDRA HUFFMAN AND COMMISSIONER KIM PRYOR HAVE FAILED TO A 10 TO 3 SUCCESSIVE MEETINGS WITHOUT CAUSE OR AN EXCUSED ABSENCE. SECTION 50.1 OF 4 REQUIRES THE COMMISSION TO DECLARE THE OFFICE VACANT, WHICH REQUIRES AN ACTION AND A VOTE BY THIS BODY. THE TAXATION, REVENUE AND UTILIZATION OF EXPENDITURES COMMISSION DECLARES THAT THE OFFICES OF THE ABOVE REFERENCED COMMISSIONERS TO BE VACANT. THE URBAN CORE CPAC IN THE GREATER ARLINGTON BEACHES, CPAC ARE TO BE NOTIFIED OF THE VACANCIES AND REQUESTED TO INITIATE THE PROCESS FOR FILLING THE VACANCY OF EACH COMMISSIONER. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS MEMORANDUM AS PRESENTED? >> I MOVE TO APPROVE A MOVE TO I'M SORRY. I JUST BLANKED SAID AGAIN TO PROVE IT. I MOVE TO APPROVE. YEAH. THANK YOU. YES, DON'T I MEAN, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION CAUTION? >> I WOULD JUST SAY THIS IS NOT AN EASY THING TO DO. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S EVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. BUT IF IF WE'RE GOING TO OPERATE IN A BUSINESSLIKE MANNER, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE SET OF RULES FOR SOME PEOPLE IN A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES FOR OTHER PEOPLE. AND THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE TRADITIONS OF OUR COUNTRY IN OUR CITY STATE. WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BECAUSE THERE IT IS THE DUTY OF A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION TO GIVE NOTICE OF THEIR ABSENCE. AND TECHNICALLY THE ORDINANCE SAYS THEY ARE TO REQUEST APPROVAL OF THE CHAIR OF THE BODY. >> AND I WILL SAY I'VE BEEN VERY MYSELF, BUT I HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT TO SAY I CANNOT MAKE IT. SO ISRAEL SAYS IS SIMPLE EMAIL OR PHONE CALLS. I MEAN, IT'S AN EMAIL TO COLIN. THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO. EXACTLY. >> YOU KNOW, I'M I'M NOT GOING REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO BABY SAID MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FOR ALL ADULTS. BUT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE OPPOSED. THE SEATS ARE HEREBY DECLARED VACANT. CHAIRMAN DAY WITH YOUR PERMISSION. I'LL GO AHEAD AND >> PUT A DAYTON APPROVAL VOTE ON THE BOTTOM OF THIS. AN INCENTIVE TO BOTH OF THOSE IMPACTS. WE WILL MOVE PREVIOUS BUSINESS. UP NEXT, WE HAVE A MOTION. I'M SORRY. WE HAVE A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO BY LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED PURSUANT TO THE BYLAWS MR. BARR, WAS YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS, MR? CHAIRMAN, LET ME SAY WE'VE BEEN I THINK WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR THIS IS 3 MONTHS. THIS IS THE 3RD MEETING. I KNOW THAT COMMISSIONER. >> MASS HAD BEEN OUTSPOKEN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ABOUT IT AS WELL. AND I KNOW THEY WILL BE HERE SHORTLY. COZY HE WAS IN SOME TRAFFIC FEW MINUTES. I WOULD ASK THAT WILL DELAY THIS REALLY STILL, I SAY 5 O'CLOCK OR SOMETHING. COMMISSIONER BASKET CIRCLES. HE'S HE'S BEEN VERY BOISTEROUS FOR LAST 2 MONTHS. I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE WORN IT. AND HE'S SINCE HE'S BEEN ON COMMISSION, THOUGH. HE'S A LITTLE LATE, SOMETIMES DO TRAFFIC. HE'S NEVER I DON'T THINK HE'S MISSED AN ELECTION. I WOULD. I WOULD ASK THAT WE POSTPONE IT FOR A FEW MINUTES AGO ABOUT A BUSINESS. I WILL WITH GREAT RELUCTANCE TO ACCEPT YOUR REQUEST. ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO ME. >> THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION AND IT THERE IS AN EXPECTATION THAT WE MEET THOSE OBLIGATIONS, BUT I WILL. >> DIFFER. GRANT YOUR REQUEST FOR THAT FORBEARANCE AGREEMENT. STILL UNTIL 4.45. AT WHICH TIME WE WILL TAKE THIS MATTER BACK UP. OKAY. BUT SOME WILL GO ON. AND I THINK WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TIME TO DO THE AUDITORS PRESENTATION RIGHT NOW. SO WE WILL FORGO THAT COMMITTEE REPORT ITEM NUMBER 4. WE WILL DEFER THAT UNTIL AUGUST. WE WILL MOVE ON INTO PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OF THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON MATTERS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA OF THIS COMMISSION TODAY? MR. NANNY YOU HAD A TIME OF. >> HELLO, I AND JOHN JAY NEW KNEE JACKSONVILLE CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION TWENTY-TWENTY THREE'S EARLY 1, 9, AND CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT 4 CARRICO CPAC PLANNING DISTRICT 3. THAT'S RAIN MONDAY. ROSEMARY WAS LASKY. SO A SCHOOL BOARD DISTRICT 3, CINDY PEARSON. AND YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE TOUCHING ON THIS RESOLUTION. ALSO, I'M GOING TO BE MAKING 3 DONATIONS. FIRST. IT'S GOING TO BE TO 2026. 0, 0, 0, FOR THAT'S THE PARK'S TRUST FUND NEXT. AND THAT'S THAT IS MR. NAIMI 20'S TRYING TO 0, 4, 6, 3, THAT IS YOUR NEW KNEE RUST FUND. I GOT ONE MORE CERTAINTY, MR. NOONAN 1009, 4.42. WHICH THE ARTIFICIAL REEF TRUST FUND AND I WILL BE YOU KNOW, THIS IS TAX ATION REVENUE UTILIZATION STUNNING. >> OKAY, I I'M GOING TO KILL YOU. I'M GOING TO RULE YOU OUT OF ORDER, KATE. WELL, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU YOUR FAMILY. YOU GOT THIS RESOLUTION TO PLEASE SPEAK TO THE RESOLUTION. ALL RIGHT. YOU CAN'T THEN PLEASE HAVE A SEAT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU BETTER JUST TO FOR THIS THING. >> YOU KNOW, I'M RIGHT NOW, OK, YOU KNOW OF, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS. YOU NEED TO TAKE A TIMEOUT. AND LET ME JUST SAY AS A PARTICIPANT IN THE RESILIENT JACKSONVILLE, OCTOBER, 23 REPORT IS HIGHLIGHTED THE PUBLIC ACCESS ON OUR WATERWAYS. IS THE WORST EVER THIS BEAUTY? >> OKAY. BUT THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND STRETCHING, MR. NOONAN, THE MISSILES ARE UNIQUE BUILDING STUFF. MISTER MOONEY. WHAT THIS RESOLUTION DOES NOT PUT IT INTO PUBLIC ACCESS TO ITS QUALITY LIFE STUFF IS NOT QUALITY OF LIFE. THAT IS READ. IT RELATES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YEAH, THAT'S A THAT'S A THAT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE. >> JUST AHEAD, 3 MINUTES. IT'S THAT LEVEL OF THEM ARE DOING A TIMES 20 RIGHT. >> YET 40 SECONDS LEFT 40 SECONDS. LA SPEAKER OF THE RESOLUTION. WELL, WILL THE RESOLUTION LIKE I SAID UPON TO COME, THIS APPROACH WILL INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF HOUSING UNITS AVAILABLE FOR SALE AND RENT THE COMBINATION CLOSELY. AND LOCALS FINANCE WILL FOSTER THE CREATION OF MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'LL FIND WELL AND GOOD. BUT AGAIN, IT GETS BACK TO A QUALITY OF LIFE COMPONENT THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN THIS STUDY WHERE, YOU KNOW, WATERW